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Speaker 1: The next segment we're going to do is called second

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Speaker 1: Date Update, because that's what we're going to try and

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Speaker 1: get and that's what the bit is called. Second Date

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Speaker 1: Update starts right now on John Jayne Ridge one O.

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Speaker 2: Four to seven Kiss FM. John Jay and Rich Time

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Speaker 2: for Second Date Update. You meet somebody, you go out

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Speaker 2: a date, you have a good time. You expect there

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Speaker 2: to be a second date. It doesn't happen. You talk

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Speaker 2: to your friends, you talk to your family. Somebody says,

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Speaker 2: why don't you go on Second Date Update with.

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Speaker 3: John Jay and Rich.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's a great idea. We'll find out why. Ava.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 4: What's your story? Ava?

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Speaker 6: So I'm calling because I'm I'm genuinely dis confused. I

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Speaker 6: went on a date with this guy. I met him

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Speaker 7: I really liked him.

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Speaker 6: Which is it's kind of rare for me because I'm

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Speaker 6: pretty shy and I don't really date much.

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Speaker 7: But the dates felt so good, Like we talked for

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Speaker 6: Time, he was nice, asked me questions. I actually felt

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Speaker 6: comfortable being myself. Uh So, when beside good bye, he

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Speaker 6: hugged told me he had a great time too. He

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Speaker 6: even texted me when he got home saying the same thing.

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Speaker 6: So I thought everything was fine. But but after that

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Speaker 6: everything started getting shorter and slower, and now it feels

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Speaker 6: like he's basically disappeared. And I just keep replaying the

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Speaker 6: whole thing in my mind. And maybe I was too quiet,

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Speaker 6: Maybe I was boring, or I don't know, maybe saying.

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Speaker 7: That I did tell him that I don't date a lot.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that was weird. I just need to figure this out,

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Speaker 6: or if I'm just overthinking it. I just want to know.

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Speaker 8: Mmmm, shy and quiet Eva. I mean it sounds like

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Speaker 8: you you you talk now, you were just quiet on

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Speaker 8: the date, right, you said felt really good? So you

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Speaker 8: must have been talking on the date.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, in this That's why I really want

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Speaker 6: to know what happened is because I did. I felt

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Speaker 7: To be myself and come out of my shell.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 9: Maybe maybe you were onto something. I feel like sometimes

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Speaker 9: with guys, it's like if they hear that you haven't

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Speaker 9: dated or you're not you know, maybe maybe that did

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Speaker 9: spook him. Maybe did you guys talk about the level

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Speaker 9: of relationship that maybe you guys are looking for, Like

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Speaker 9: maybe he's looking for something serious and if you've never

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Speaker 9: really dated before, maybe he just doesn't think you're an option.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean we talked about that a little, and

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Speaker 7: I was honest with him about where I was. But

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Speaker 7: I just I just don't know, because that didn't like

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Speaker 7: after we talked about that part, it seems fine.

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Speaker 6: It's just started.

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Speaker 7: Getting like less and less later in a date so

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Speaker 6: So I don't, you don't know. I maybe I guess

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Speaker 6: that could have been it. If that doesn't feel like

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Speaker 6: the trigger, I don't know. I feel like I am

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Speaker 6: overthinking it. And I just I just want to know

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Speaker 6: what happened.

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Speaker 4: Let's just call him.

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Speaker 8: Let's just call him.

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Speaker 4: Let's just call him, all right, what's his name?

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Speaker 6: Elias?

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna call Elias.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out why he's ignoring you or not

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Speaker 2: falling through with a second date.

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Speaker 4: And this date took place? How long ago?

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Speaker 6: HI was? Last week?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you hang tight, we'll call We'll find out

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Speaker 2: why he's blowing you off. Second date update continues next

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Speaker 2: with John Jay and Rich in.

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Speaker 6: The eternal battle of morning show supremacy.

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Speaker 1: We are one of them.

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Speaker 4: It's John Jay and Rich.

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Speaker 2: John Jay and Rich. We are in the middle of

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Speaker 2: second ate update. Ava and Elias.

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Speaker 8: Poor quiet, shine Ava. He's an overthinker and she might

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Speaker 4: As her day.

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Speaker 8: Elias slowly backed away from the once electric date that

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Speaker 8: they shared. Now he is all but disappeared. He is

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Speaker 8: all put a mirage. What happened to Ava and Elias?

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Speaker 4: What happened? Is she too shy for him? She seems

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Speaker 4: a little like, well, we'll see a Are.

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Speaker 6: You there, Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, We're gonna get him on the phone right now,

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Speaker 2: so you stay quiet and.

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Speaker 4: Then le's figure things out. So hold on, we'll call

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 3: Nine.

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Speaker 9: Hi is this Elias?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Hi, my name is Peyton. I'm with John Jaye Rich

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Speaker 9: and we just wanted to on the radio really quickly

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Speaker 9: this morning.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, sure, what's this regarding Well.

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Speaker 2: We got a really a nice phone call from somebody

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Speaker 2: named Ava and she said she went on a date

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Speaker 2: there was chemistry, but now she says things kind of faded,

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Speaker 2: you know what, can we just call him and we'll

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Speaker 2: find out through him if there's something, if there's an issue,

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Speaker 2: would you.

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Speaker 4: Mind sharing with us your thoughts on Ava? She seemed

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Speaker 4: really sweet.

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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I don't mind at all. Excuse me. It

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Speaker 5: is like it was a good date like with Ava,

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Speaker 5: and it went really well. I don't know, and like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: she was sweet. It was like an easy.

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Speaker 4: Kind of day. She was nice to talk to.

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Speaker 10: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I could tell that she was a bit nervous and

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Speaker 5: I was trying to figure it out without fishing, you

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Speaker 5: thing she said was she had to step out text

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Speaker 5: in fact that I was like do you want to

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Speaker 5: know and get permission. I was like, what, And I

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Speaker 5: know that maybe I'm coming across it's like a bit

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Speaker 5: I don't know, kind of a hater or whatever. But

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Speaker 5: to be honest, my last I'm sorry, my dog's barking. Okay,

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Speaker 5: my last relationship ended because of something very similar where

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Speaker 5: there was zero boundaries between you know, like her mother

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Speaker 5: I don't know, like having her mom involved from date one,

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Speaker 5: like all I could think about was like thinking ahead, like,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, every opinion, every date, every decision is

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Speaker 5: to be going through her mother.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but this was with Ava. It only happened twice,

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Speaker 2: right or did it happen again a third time that

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it fe like anytime she checked her

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Speaker 2: Well, I can get how you'd be sensitive to that,

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Speaker 2: but also look at her point of view, how many

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Speaker 4: That's true, right now, She's got to be yeah all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 4: They get saved.

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Speaker 2: Even even the Jeffrey Dahmer movie, say they get they

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Speaker 2: get to one place and they're fine, but it's the

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Speaker 2: second place where they get you.

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Speaker 4: Well, he better up.

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Speaker 8: You're not Jeffrey Dahmer, are you.

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Speaker 2: That's why that's why she text me mom, hey, momm here.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I was weird just watching that show run Away.

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Speaker 2: Remember when the girl she texts the mother in law

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Speaker 2: Here's the picture of the license plate of the car

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Speaker 2: I'm going to meet. And guess what she died. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: they killed her, right, So I could see that point

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Speaker 5: Elias, No, I totally. I mean that's what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 5: I understand the safety issue, but but you.

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Speaker 2: Wait till you're in a relationship and then or till

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Speaker 2: is a problem. Now I can see why you're sensitive

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Speaker 4: So I get that exactly, but give her the benefit

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just like, hey, I have enough self actualization

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Speaker 5: to know that I'm projecting this, but I also don't

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Speaker 5: just ended because of something and it's the first red flag,

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Speaker 5: Like the first thing I noticed about her is that's repeating,

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know what that pattern says about me.

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Speaker 5: But it's also like I don't want to immediately hop

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Speaker 6: Okay, Hi, I'm sorry. I I just want to say

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Speaker 7: Mom me.

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Speaker 2: Yes on the line listening the whole time. We have

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Speaker 2: we have her mom on the phone too. We have

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Speaker 4: No, we don't. No, no, she'd like to give you.

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Speaker 6: I totally get why that sounded like a lot.

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Speaker 10: My mom is.

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Speaker 7: Really protective, but I I do. I do not live

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Speaker 6: Worry, and I guess I'm used to checking in just

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Speaker 7: Spiral, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I I understand it. I do.

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Speaker 4: It's just.

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Speaker 5: Like it's hard to admit that like taught me off guard.

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Speaker 5: Like I hate talking about like my past relationships, but

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Speaker 5: like there were zero boundaries, zero boundaries with her mom

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Speaker 5: and it like it totally wrecked us and recognize.

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Speaker 6: That totally makes sense. I understand. I am not trying

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Speaker 6: to bring my mom into my dating life. Seriously, I'm

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Speaker 6: actually you know, it is one of my New Year's resolutions.

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Speaker 6: I am trying to get better.

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Speaker 7: About not feeling like I owe her updates on everything. Right.

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Speaker 5: I could even like tell you were kind of nervous

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Speaker 5: about that, and I'm trying to like, I don't want

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Speaker 5: this to come across as like there was a red

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Speaker 5: flag about you, but honestly, I was just like panicking

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Speaker 5: and immediately got in my own head about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, she sounds like a great girl. You should ask

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wish you would have said something because I

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Speaker 6: I felt like with out of nowhere.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry, that's that's that that is on me.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it, but I just like I know I

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Speaker 5: the worst. But it's just hard, you know, And yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean, what are you to say? It is true,

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Speaker 5: like I do want to ask you out again, but

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Speaker 5: I'm just like I'm cautious.

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Speaker 9: Just do it, Elias, like yolo.

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Speaker 2: Also, your your new love interest isn't always your old

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Speaker 4: You go back and start dating your old love and

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Speaker 4: if that.

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Speaker 9: Is your old flexix becomes your new flex found this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so you guys want to go Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he asked you out, you gonna do it?

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Speaker 4: I would do what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a good time despite like the phone stuff,

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Speaker 5: Like if we could just like, I don't know, let's

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Speaker 5: try it again, and I'll try to be more open

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Speaker 5: and maybe like you don't have to check the phone

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Speaker 5: the whole time.

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Speaker 10: Maybe I promise not to. I will put my phone away,

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Speaker 10: I will not text mom, and maybe we can avoid

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Speaker 10: the panic spirals this time too.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Also one other condition, if she puts her phone away,

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Speaker 2: you have to promise to not kill her. Fair Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna hold you to that.

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Speaker 4: We're going to keep this tape. We're going to keep

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Speaker 4: this tape.

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Speaker 2: Tape.

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Speaker 4: You said you weren't going to kill her.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching a lot of murder shows on document

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Speaker 2: on Netflix. All right, you guys, thanks for calling in.

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Speaker 2: Hold on the line. That's second Date update with Tod

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Speaker 2: Jay and Rich