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Speaker 1: This is YoY. While the kid quarterback keeps.

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Speaker 2: Rewiring neurological pathways, the kid goalie just keeps denying pathways

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Speaker 3: Leader fan Fan Radio Network and k f AN dot com.

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Speaker 1: Take that, Kevin Falmas.

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Speaker 3: Two minutes eleven seconds past the hour of three o'clock

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Speaker 3: Central Standard time, we welcome you back to a Thursday

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Speaker 3: edition of the Bumper to Bumper program on a well

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Speaker 3: not too cold, but rather overcast Thursday afternoon here in

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Speaker 3: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Barrero, Hockey Ambassador Guards.

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Speaker 3: He's the producer of the show, fresh off a trip

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Speaker 3: to Glenn Mason's old territory, Lawrence, Kansas, and we are

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Speaker 3: delighted that you are along for today's ride between now

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Speaker 3: and I'm presuming six o'clock tonight. Yes, sir, big kind

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Speaker 3: of a program change today to accommodate schedules. Russo Radio

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Speaker 3: is going to join us tomorrow, and we needed somebody

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Speaker 3: Lavelle lavell E Neil the Third.

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Speaker 1: So he's five h two correct, Is that correct? You

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Speaker 3: Doctor Dan's inbox five thirty ish or in that vicinity.

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Speaker 3: In addition, we've got Sean Salisbury confirmed for three thirty tonight,

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Speaker 3: and Bill ghan, the while general manager, is scheduled to

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Speaker 3: join us probably about four to twenty two ish, twenty

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Speaker 3: be with us then, and we'll get caught up with

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Speaker 3: him regarding his suddenly red hot Minnesota Wild hockey team.

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Speaker 3: I will fully admit that I will try to get

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Speaker 3: him going really on a goalie controversy, oh yeah, but

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Speaker 3: my heart won't be in it because, as we talked

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Speaker 3: In other words, there may be a time where that's

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Speaker 1: Now it's all for the good.

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Speaker 3: It's all for the good, right because you've got you

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Speaker 3: came into this season feeling good about I think your

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Speaker 3: little concerned about, well, where where's the kid waalst at,

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Speaker 3: where's he gonna when's he gonna start.

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Speaker 1: In prospect picking it up?

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Speaker 3: And it's the kind of his performance gives you if

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Speaker 3: kind of drama you live for. I've always felt that

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Speaker 1: You know, mythic.

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Speaker 3: You can build myths around great goaltenders over the course

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Speaker 3: they they eventually did score well, I shouldn't say earlier

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Speaker 3: Right he had the minutes one hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 1: That's awfully good, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, for the record twenty two minutes, shy of the

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Speaker 2: That's just like the one goalie I could name off

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Speaker 3: we've been giving up like one two goals a game

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Speaker 3: But by all accounts, by all accounts, he's the reason

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Speaker 3: That's the beauty of the position and the beauty of

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Speaker 2: Dan Orlowski was doing videos about his mechanics. That's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I did like the did you see the wall?

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Speaker 3: People are going with. Here's I love the quote that

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Speaker 3: Uh whilst that was spending some time scrolling TikTok, it's

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even have to rewire my you know,

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Speaker 3: And you'll notice it was played after another standing performance,

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Speaker 1: Finished the thing.

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Speaker 3: So if you look at sort of the position that

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Speaker 3: suddenly we're not giving up four or five, you know, three, four, five,

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Speaker 1: That's helpful, and it is helpful.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it's, according to Russo, the last team to

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Speaker 3: All of that starts with very good defense, better defense,

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Speaker 1: They believe in them exactly it.

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Speaker 3: Now, I think the more you see you're saying, well,

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Speaker 3: don't believe is important in any major sport as goaltender. Right,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think anything it matches up to it.

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Speaker 3: And we see that last night evidence of that, where

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Speaker 3: this game. Now, the comeback to that is, of course

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Speaker 3: but it's hockey and and so good teams have goaltender

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Speaker 3: been there before. You can ring it up with garn again.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I mean you can, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Does Fallna say yesper valstat?

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Speaker 4: He might.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of those yesper valstat. I feel

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Speaker 2: you do the nickname exactly? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, well maybe we'll ask Bill Garrion. He would you

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Speaker 1: think he'd be an authority on that?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 1: If anybody would know, you think he would know? No

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Speaker 1: bonus bucks? Correct? Correct.

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Speaker 3: Let's come back and prepare for bottom of the hour

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Speaker 3: for our guys. Shawanee, I've got a couple of football

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Speaker 3: nuggets early as well, all right, Shaan Salthwick coming up

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm kind of lost in the wilderness

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Speaker 3: This is from Ben Gesling. McCarthy said, when he's out

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Speaker 3: He's learning, it ain't going well, say it, that's it

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Speaker 3: In this case, cleaning up some things is actually better

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Speaker 2: Gonna take is some better performances, which may start as

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Speaker 1: Who knows. Weird things have happened.

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Speaker 3: I'll get his reaction to Salisbury as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Do you know about that?

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Speaker 2: But they're also beat writers as opposed to like columnists.

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Speaker 3: But that sound like we got to he's they have

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Speaker 1: But that's very different than the problems. They're honest.

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Speaker 3: They thought that was gonna We're going to be among

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Speaker 3: Oh, Zimer? This is from Tom Columbia Heights. Zimmer was

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Speaker 4: Would see the game.

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Speaker 3: Let's come back and get Sean Salisbury's view of the

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Speaker 1: That's neck.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: I apologize for a lousy clock management to getting him earlier,

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Speaker 1: What habits you have to improve on and go do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think eventually, Dan, he is going to

439
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Speaker 4: be a good player.

440
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Speaker 5: I've stayed that on here. I think there's you know,

441
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 5: at the college level at accuracy. Didn't throw it a lot.

442
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: He's still in the infancy. He hasn't even played a

443
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Speaker 5: full season yet as a starting quarterback. So let's put

444
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Speaker 5: that aside because we're talking about now on exactly what.

445
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Speaker 4: Your question is.

446
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Speaker 5: So I do no matter how I criticize a compliment,

447
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 5: I'm going to always be honest.

448
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna send them this. I'm gonna tall.

449
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 5: I I think JJ McCarthy knows how to win, and

450
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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be a good player.

451
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Speaker 4: You've seen flashes real quick well in both.

452
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 5: Chicago games at the end of one and to get

453
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Speaker 5: him into this one and then the defense you.

454
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Speaker 4: Know, allowed him to go down and they lose the game.

455
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 5: But under duress in pressure situations, he's come through a

456
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Speaker 5: couple of times this year.

457
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Speaker 4: But he's got a lot to learn. All right.

458
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 5: Now to your point question, I'm one hundred and eighty

459
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 5: degrees different from the way they're talking during the season.

460
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Speaker 5: Mechanics matter to me. I'm a when I teach and

461
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 5: train kids, I'm a mechanics fanatic. I'm not a robotics guy.

462
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 5: I can tell you this though. The things that they're

463
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 5: telling you, that's all off season stuff and lonely work.

464
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Speaker 4: When you're reading a book and you're thinking about it.

465
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Speaker 5: If you're jj and going through you see him like

466
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 5: in college, and I still think he does in the NFL.

467
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: He sits down and meditates before the game, right, and

468
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 5: that's great. All that to get in your zen fine,

469
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: too much clutter if this is what you're thinking about

470
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Speaker 5: during the season. Hence why we're having some trouble all

471
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Speaker 5: this base ball. I mean, we all have our slogans

472
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 5: we go to or stuff.

473
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Speaker 4: You know.

474
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Speaker 5: I like base balance and load where you keep the

475
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: ball loaded. You got good based, good mouths. But if

476
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 5: I'm emphasizing that and constantly have that on my mind.

477
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Speaker 5: My number one goal is to remove clutter, not to

478
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Speaker 5: add to it. Right, And it looks to me like

479
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: he's playing with clutter. And I get all the jargon

480
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 5: of the motivational zig ziggler Tony Robbins motivational stuff get

481
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 5: I do, and I understand that. But like anything, I've

482
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 5: said it here before, how many coaches do we know

483
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 5: constantly beating up mental and emotional and physical mechanics and

484
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 5: players during the season. Minimal that's done between your last

485
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: game and when you get to the next one. So

486
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 5: you're trying to I always compare golf in quarterbacking. I

487
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 5: just do because there's a lot of parallels to the

488
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 5: mental approach. It's hard to play the position angry on

489
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: golf if you're angry and you're over gripping. Same thing

490
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: with football, now focused or irritated sometimes when you got

491
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: the ball and you got to make a first down running.

492
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 5: I just talking about your approach when everybody else the

493
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 5: middle linebacker can do that because he's flying around and

494
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Speaker 5: beating people up.

495
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 4: You've got twenty one other guys.

496
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Speaker 5: You're dealing with defense, and your other ten on offense,

497
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 5: not SAMs you and really twenty two with you.

498
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Speaker 4: So I'll try to remove clutter.

499
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 5: So all this stuff you're telling yourself sounds great in

500
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Speaker 5: a loud but Gatorade wasn't created during the season. It

501
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 5: was created in the off season, so you can drink

502
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Speaker 5: it during the season. Clutter removed. I know what I'm

503
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 5: going to I eat a bottle of water grape what

504
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 5: goes in? I don't know all the alkaline, but I

505
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: do know this, I gotta drink it to stay hydrid.

506
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: Same thing here, Why am I adding all this clutter?

507
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: And to the media and fans worse than here.

508
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: Go what what I can't? They can't fathom it.

509
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 5: And so when a guy drops back to pass, just

510
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 5: like they say read golf, I just if.

511
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: You've got more than three or four swing.

512
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: Thoughts on your three by five car, if they can't fit,

513
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 5: it's too many. So all this stuff is fine as

514
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 5: long as you're applying it with your mechanics. Because if

515
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: you're doing that during the season, how am I executing

516
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: a game plan and studying defenses?

517
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Speaker 4: There's not enough hours in the day.

518
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 5: So while I love the thought, I love the thought

519
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 5: between elimination time when your season's over and training camp

520
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 5: that's and then asking questions and.

521
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: I don't mind you're sitting around.

522
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: You go in and have your meeting with your head

523
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Speaker 5: coach Kevin, and you say, hey, man, let's make sure

524
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 5: we stay focused on those things we've talked about. Great,

525
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: but I'm up in the media and I'm working on this,

526
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: working on this. How about right now, I'm at the

527
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 5: stage of the season, dude, just go make me a play.

528
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

529
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: Julet's get it done. Execute, Simplify in your own mind.

530
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 5: I'm not adding clutter. It's tough enough to succeed against

531
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Speaker 5: good teams and bad teams, let alone, when you're carrying

532
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 5: around the burden of a Santa Claus bag full of

533
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 5: tricks in your mind that you're trying to execute, can't

534
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 5: do it. And so I get he's young, he's still

535
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: doing it. He benefited from that. But remember when he

536
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 5: left Michigan won a national title. He was the veteran

537
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 5: who'd been in a system for a while. Now he's

538
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 5: new in the system, hasn't even played a full season.

539
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 5: I don't want to overload with all the stuff you

540
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 5: may have learned at your academy in high school.

541
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Speaker 4: That'll be fine in the off season. I need your

542
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: mind clear.

543
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 5: I'd rather have him come back to me and say,

544
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna do within the structure of this offense.

545
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go like I'm playing in my Thanksgiving Day

546
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 5: Turkey Bowl with my buddies, like we did in high school.

547
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let the damn thing rip, and I'm gonna

548
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: cut it loose. What's happened in the last two minutes

549
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: of a game, Dan, Normally, while they may be sending

550
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: it in in a two minute drill and you're playing fast,

551
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: you're not thinking. That's why you see a lot of success.

552
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: Sometimes defenses will zone it up and give you a

553
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: chance to get completions. But as a quarterback, always liked

554
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 5: it because you know what You're just the game's in

555
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 5: your hands. Okay, call two plays before we come out. Boom,

556
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: hit the screen, come back, next play, hit it.

557
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 4: You look over. They may be telling you, but coaches

558
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 4: are usually playing it our day.

559
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: Wen we knew the five or six plays we were

560
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: going to never cross over a formation. When you started

561
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: in a right formation, stay in a right formation, and

562
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: then you're execute, because then you're just becoming a football player.

563
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: But man, you're carrying.

564
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: Around that hulebrid And look at his success in these

565
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 5: two Chicago games where he's been able to at the

566
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: end because now he's just going back to what he

567
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 5: knows instead of overloading his mind. And I just you

568
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: just can't do it. You'll blow a gasket. It's like

569
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 5: your internet's going to go out because eight billion people

570
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: are on it. So get rid of that. We'll deal

571
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: with that in the offseason. I'm just as soon have

572
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: you say, you know what, it's time for me to

573
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: go be a damn football player, because that's what he

574
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 5: is and he'll be good, But get.

575
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Speaker 4: Rid of the clutter. Now. I'd rather at this stage

576
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: of the season eliminate some of these things.

577
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: Let's execute what you do well and give our team

578
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 5: a chance, because right now JJ McCarthy looks like a

579
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 5: guy who's overwhelmed in the majority of the game and

580
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: the majority of the season.

581
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Speaker 4: And like I said, I love his game. I think

582
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: he's going to be fine.

583
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 5: Right now, he looks like the biggest mistake that the

584
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: Vikings made was to let Sam Darnold walk, even regardless

585
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: of his game last week, Sam doing I'm just talking

586
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: to him.

587
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: It looks to me.

588
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: It looks to me like it's a guy who's got

589
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 5: too much on his mind and has tried too hard

590
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: to please all this and that instead of just going

591
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: and doing what JJ's always done. Go win games, man,

592
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: We'll deal with all the other stuff. Your mechanical sweep.

593
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: I play golf a lot, Dan, and I'm going to

594
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 5: tell you, And you know you go up and down

595
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: like everything, And I'm going to tell you right now,

596
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 5: every time I go get a lesson and then go

597
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: right to the golf course. Do you want to know

598
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: how well I play, I've got zero. It's like the

599
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: first time I've ever played, because okay, hand grip and

600
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 5: mix sure square the club and your takeaway and your tempo.

601
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 5: And by the time he done it, even if you

602
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: hit a good shot, you assume it's a bad one

603
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 5: because like my mind's overloaded. So I would assume more

604
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 5: simplicity and we'll do all the psychological Tony Robbins stuff

605
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: in the offseason.

606
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: Let me ask you to translate this part of a

607
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: quote from yesterday. He said, coming in here, I was

608
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: taught how to play quarterback in a very different way,

609
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: and that's expected going into the league, going to any

610
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: new team, any new system. But the end of the day,

611
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: it was really just the injuries that I felt like

612
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: took away all those reps to make those a habit

613
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: and make them concrete. So when he talks about this

614
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: is all very new playing, I'm being taught to play

615
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: quarterback in a very different way.

616
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: What do you think he's referring to there, Well.

617
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: I think he's got to be referring to the way

618
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: it was taught in their meeting room or had you

619
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: know harvort O'Connell. Now, there is a big difference in

620
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: the way they go about their business, right, I mean,

621
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Speaker 5: as far as one's in a different.

622
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Speaker 4: Jim is Jim has always coached the kind of the

623
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Speaker 4: way he played.

624
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: We're gonna get under center, we're going to run play action,

625
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: and we're going to play this way. Kevin, Well, we've

626
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: seen it in their result. It feels like their past

627
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: first run second, right, Jim has always been run first,

628
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 5: past second, play action, playing the strength. So regardless, he

629
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: didn't say in there that I wasn't coached right at

630
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 5: either place, being coached different, of course you are, and

631
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 5: you'll be coached different every time a new coach or

632
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 5: you go somewhere else, or if having left or a

633
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 5: new quarterback coach gets this one gets a job or whatever,

634
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 5: You're going to be coached a little bit different. The

635
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: Verbiagill change. Maybe somebody will teach different mechanics. But a

636
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: curl still a curl, a dig route still.

637
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: A dig route.

638
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: There's only eleven guys, how we identify them as usually

639
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: the same?

640
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: Will, Sam and Mike.

641
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 5: So the basis of football and between one hundred yards

642
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: the stripes and fifty two and a third, whatever it

643
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: is wide, it's still football. So it tells me even

644
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: with this answer, did he still grabbing some of the

645
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: past stuff bringing it with him here and saying, well,

646
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: I have coach different?

647
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: Yes? And guess who else is coached different?

648
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams's coach different, Ben Johnson's don't like something he

649
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: may have seen, even though Lincoln Riley and Ben Johnson

650
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: got mad scientists written all over. The mechanics may be different,

651
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 5: but it's still football. He's got to know.

652
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: And I don't mean this disrespectful to his coach at all,

653
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: but I tell this to anybody. You got to know,

654
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: garbage in, garbage out.

655
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: Good stuff in. I'm not saying what he's teaching garbage.

656
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 5: You got to know what to come in right and

657
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 5: bring in and keep in and what to kind of

658
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 5: let go in one ear and out the other, so

659
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: you don't overload your mind with your ass. Basically you

660
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 5: don't want to do that.

661
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm asking.

662
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 5: I mean, so coach different the NFL, and it moves faster,

663
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 5: it just does. It does, and then the windows close quicker,

664
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: so if you're not on time. So the offense is

665
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: far different than what Jim was running in college.

666
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: So I get it.

667
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: Completely different, doesn't mean wrong, but different. There is an adjustment.

668
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 5: And he's right about the reps. The injuries have gotten

669
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 5: the way of consistent practice and game reps. But to

670
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 5: me it feels, looks and sounds like that over analyzation

671
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: and can wear you down. Man. You get rid of

672
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: the numbers, give me one, get us in the end zone,

673
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 5: and find a way to get the second one, which

674
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 5: is a win.

675
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: But if indeed the head coach is accurate in terms

676
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: of the habits that he believes are not to use

677
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: his terms settled in concrete, yet are as important, as

678
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: Koc seems to say, to be accurate, in other words,

679
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: to not throwing the ball you know, ten feet over

680
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: JJ's head on that short route to the right side

681
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: that actually led to a bunch of booze. I come

682
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: away from that saying they did miscalculate then on how

683
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: ready he was. You can't blame him for being heard

684
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: and not even able to practice much of last year.

685
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: But if that's the case and he is still needs

686
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: to be broken down to be built back up fundamentally

687
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: to the degree that these quotes seem to indicate, then

688
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: aren't you admitting that we jumped the gun man. I'm

689
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: thinking that we could hand them the ball and really

690
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: try to keep this thing together and in the same

691
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: year try to be as good a contender as we can.

692
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: We wanted to be.

693
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: You're on correct.

694
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 5: What was our biggest comment when we went last year

695
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 5: coming into this year the off season, Sam, We've had

696
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 5: these conversations and when they decided and we talked about this,

697
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 5: so could you keep Sam Donald with the you know,

698
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 5: the franchise down all the things we discussed last year,

699
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: and we said, and the biggest thing that's going to

700
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: face is do they have the guts to turn.

701
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: It over to a guy who's an as it's going to be.

702
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 5: A rookie that is coming up, not just a rookie,

703
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 5: but a rookie who has injured the entire year, has

704
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: got no reps. Are you willing to part with everything

705
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: and just turn the whole He hand him the Ferrari now,

706
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: and here's the keys, dude, But you don't want to

707
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: turn a Ferrari into a penta. Not that there's anything

708
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: wrong with pentos, but I don't want an AMC pacer.

709
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: I had one of those, so I don't want one.

710
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: But they don't move this slick and as fast.

711
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: But it was a risk, and you were going to

712
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: have a step back regardless of how you felt about

713
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 5: it coming out. Because I feel highly about him too.

714
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 5: I love that they drafted him. It didn't mean you

715
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: had to force feed it. Because we're always everything is

716
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 5: such changing gratification, And I know Kevin saw something at Michigan.

717
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 5: This ain't Michigan, I thought too. I also know he

718
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: sees something in the kid's attitude and of the way

719
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 5: that people gravitate to I get it, but it's still

720
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: got to get under center and play sixty five plays

721
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 5: a game, and if it's still not in concrete, as

722
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 5: JJ says, and there's still it's a work in progress.

723
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 5: Couldn't that a work in progress be brought along a

724
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 5: tad slower when you had a Pro Bowl quarterback, We

725
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: through thirty plus touchdowns and it wasn't going to cost

726
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 5: you fifty million.

727
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean probably, This isn't hindsight. This is the stuff

728
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: we asked.

729
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 5: Even then, as good as JJ may end up being, yes,

730
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: it's still he's out there yet, and now you're learning.

731
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: Guess what happens now? Dan? You know you were talking

732
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 5: about missed by ten yards, and you know you hear

733
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 5: me talking about that sniper mentality of aims small, miss small,

734
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 5: where even your missus are on the golf course, and

735
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 5: that your missus are still playable. Some of his misses

736
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: aren't playable, but he's not inaccurate yet. You start to

737
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: get to a point what happens when you start to

738
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 5: miss stuff like that? Then you go back and over analyze. Yeah,

739
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: it could just be the one play you didn't get

740
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: too wide a base, You overstride it because you're anticipated.

741
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: And the ball missed. Let's not make a mountain out

742
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 4: of a molehill.

743
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: Not that the losses are a mole hill, but when

744
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 5: it comes to mechanics, it's like, dude, you don't have

745
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: to make It's not a lifetime sentence to miss a

746
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 5: throw or two.

747
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: It happens. My question is how we can to overcome

748
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: the next roe. Just get it to him.

749
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: We'll work on this six days, we prepare. The seventh

750
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 5: day we go play, so we can discuss this after.

751
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: I don't want all this stuff eating up on the sidelines.

752
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 5: You missed the thrown and I know it was, but

753
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 5: I can't keep living like that.

754
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: So for me, yeah, it's okay to admit.

755
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: And I know it's hard for them, But who thought

756
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy was gonna be ready and go out and

757
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: do this. It's rare that you're the Strouds and Jayden daniels.

758
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 4: That's not normal.

759
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: What they did is rookies, So that's that is not normal.

760
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 5: What is normal is Jackson darts up and down. Is

761
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy win and then lose and throw a bunch

762
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 5: of picks.

763
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 4: That's a veteran too. That's what's normal.

764
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: And you feel like, oh my gosh, I made over

765
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: my head. Talked to veterans, you know, from eight min

766
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 5: zero and eleven to manning twenty eight picks. What did

767
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 5: we think was gonna happen, especially for a guy who

768
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: didn't throw forty times a game and has been a

769
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 5: game forty times a game in college and has been hurt.

770
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, unless you thought he dressed in

771
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 4: a phone booth already. It took that guy in Buffalo

772
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: quite a while to get to the point he's at now.

773
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: So I think.

774
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: They overplayed the JJ's hand on a team that had

775
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: playoff aspiration is now reeling.

776
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: And that does not mean that JJ's not going to be.

777
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: A streat player. I think he can if he uses

778
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 5: this properly. But what I do know, and I made

779
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 5: it look tough plenty of times, that the more overloaded

780
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 5: and cramped and more things you're thinking about as a

781
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 5: player prevent you from reacting. And this is a reactionary position.

782
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: And if you have to react and you have to adjust,

783
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: an adapt and adjust an adapt is removing the clutter

784
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,479
Speaker 5: from your mind. There's enough clutter without you adding it yourself. Yes,

785
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: the mistake is it is premature to think that JJ

786
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 5: McCarthy was going to win eleven or twelve games this year,

787
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 5: and the mistake is they put it all on him,

788
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 5: and now you're reeling because not just him, but he

789
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 5: is not playing.

790
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: Good football right now.

791
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 5: But I think that he'll learn because he's a smart

792
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: and competitive guy and it'll serve him well down the road.

793
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 5: But as a Viking fan or you don't want to

794
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: hear that right now, because you've still got six games

795
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 5: to go or whatever it is to play and see

796
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 5: if you can salvage a way off birth did you

797
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: get going in a very difficult division and a difficult

798
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 5: opponent coming up?

799
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon, an NFL analyst you may know named Emmanuel Acho.

800
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: He had posted a video praising the late go ahead

801
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: touchdown pass that didn't hold up unfortunately because of the

802
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: long kickoff return in the late Bears field goal. So

803
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Chris Carter, who you know well and who just joined

804
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: us on Monday, in fact, he was at the game

805
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: on Sunday, he quoted the post, but then added did

806
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: you watch the first fifty nine minutes? And then he

807
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: had a thumbs down emoji, So at that point you

808
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: may have heard this. One of McCarthy's private coaches, Greg Holcombe,

809
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: responded with a kind of an obscene calling Carter a

810
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: bleeping clown. He has apologized for that, and I think

811
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: since deleted the reply.

812
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: So here's what's interesting to me from your perspective.

813
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: I heard from some fans who said, you know, I

814
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: don't disagree completely with what cc said because he was

815
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: kind of stating the truth, But I don't like it

816
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: when it's a next player. You know, he's supposed to

817
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: be a little bit more understanding than that. And the

818
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: only reason he do that is because he went to

819
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: Ohio State and JJ's a Michigan guy, so he liked

820
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 3: pion on it is it is it considered sort of

821
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 3: against the unwritten rules for a player, a former player,

822
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame player in this case, to offer that

823
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: that kind of opinion, which was which was tough.

824
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: In the moment. I thought it was accurate, but was

825
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: pretty tough.

826
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: Now Carter was with us with I think was very

827
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: nuanced and very balanced in what he had to say

828
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: about McCarthy beyond that one comment.

829
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: But what do you think, what rules do you think

830
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: should apply?

831
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 5: Well, I'm looking at it from a player standpoint, former

832
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: players standpoint, and a broadcaster stat right, and see it

833
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 5: for the fans point if you listen, I know Viking

834
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: fans and Bears fans in their Chicago with their former players.

835
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: No matter what city you go in, they want you

836
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 5: to do nothing but tell him how good they are.

837
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: But do you really do you really did actually point

838
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: out something that was wrong? The answer is no, are sensitivity? Well,

839
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: you're a former player, and you're a former Viking. I

840
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: don't know about the michigan O house, the.

841
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: Thing asked me. I'm an SC guy. I know we're

842
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: in the Big ten.

843
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 5: I'm as critical of my former team as anybody is,

844
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 5: and I played for at SC for all those years.

845
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: So to me, if you're fair without making it personal,

846
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 5: why should we be met. We pay Chris Carter when

847
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: he's on TV or what I'm doing my show to

848
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: be and then when we don't give the truth, there's

849
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 5: some people who are well, I can't trust you, lose

850
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 5: credibility if you don't. So he's got his career. So

851
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 5: if you want the truth, I'll give you the truth.

852
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: Chris is right. JJ wasn't very good for fifty nine minutes,

853
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: but he came in big at the end, and they

854
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 5: didn't get a good special teams playing get a stop.

855
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: The other side, I understand, is a personal quarterback trader.

856
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 5: Do you want everybody to say great things about your quarterback?

857
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 5: In Holcomb's case, and rightfully so, I don't think we

858
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: were anybody was criticizing the private trainer because obviously he's

859
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 5: done well with JJ, because JJ's been successful at every level.

860
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 5: So I get that too, but I just don't make it.

861
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 5: I'm not going at a guy who criticized my team

862
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 5: because he was a former player and a former player

863
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: for that very team that's got him in the Hall

864
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: of Fame. Chris's job is to be honest. I come

865
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 5: on here every week. While I love JJ mccarth, they're

866
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: not going to rip this private qud. I don't know

867
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 5: what they do in their private sessions. I'm sure pretty

868
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 5: good JJ's a first round pick.

869
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 4: But on the other.

870
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: Side of it is what do you want to hear?

871
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 5: Did you want to hear him say yeah, the guy's

872
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 5: been awesome? So everybody goes and say, what do you

873
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 5: mean he's been awesome? He's been good at times, he's

874
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 5: been bad at times, and he's been averaging between at times.

875
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: That means if he uses it right, I imagine J j.

876
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 5: McCarthy's going to funnel all this and take it all

877
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 5: in and go do it and play really good football

878
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 5: down the road. Right now, he's still in the process.

879
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: It's a learning thing, and it's a learner. We expect

880
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: too much at a rookie quarterbacks.

881
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: We just do. So there's no written protocol that I

882
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: got to go to because I.

883
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: Played with the Chargers and tell your Herbert plays great

884
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: every week, you know, or as a four player. Now,

885
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 5: if I crossed the line say yeah, JJ didn't play well,

886
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 5: I wonder what his personal trainers coach. You know. You

887
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, that guy must su Yeah. Now

888
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: we're tread into Come on, man, you've got to be fair.

889
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: Just like if you said Chris dropped the ball, which

890
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: he didn't do very often career, that defines his whole

891
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: career that he dropped the ball in a game when

892
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 5: he caught eight billion other ones on balls that were

893
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 5: thrown over his head and he still made it catch.

894
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: So we got to stop sensitivity. If you want honest opinion,

895
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: then then you're gonna get it.

896
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: Now.

897
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: I think we can see through when a guy's made

898
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 5: it personal. I think Chris made it personal. He loves Minnesota,

899
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 5: and I understand that quarterback trainer is like, oh so

900
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 5: I'm covering the whole Damn, I'm in the media.

901
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 4: I trained quarterbacks, I played for Minnesota, and I played

902
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: in the league.

903
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: But I also know how hard it is, because trust me,

904
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 5: I've been made it look hard at times. But I

905
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 5: don't think criticizing a guy properly, just like you compliment him,

906
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 5: as long as it's not personal, should be make people mad.

907
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 5: It's just a fact that maybe it helps somebody get better.

908
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 5: Chris knows football. I'm sure as private trainer knows football too,

909
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 5: so I like to think I know some football. So

910
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 5: there's not one answer for all of it, but understanding

911
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 5: that it's okay to be critical because the first fifty

912
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 5: nine minutes really worked great football by JJ, and I

913
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 5: can tell you who knows that more than anybody him.

914
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: That's why he's going to be good. Self Self criticism

915
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 5: and self evaluation is your number one thing before any

916
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 5: coach opens his mouth, or any private trainer or any

917
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 5: former player, because we're not in those meeting rooms, and

918
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 5: he can't get to this point without having some skill set.

919
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 5: There's just some things that need to be polished up.

920
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: But I'm never backing off from my opinion on a guy.

921
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 5: I'm on here to give you honest feelings, and if

922
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: those honest feelings hurt somebody else's feelings, they're just going

923
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 5: to have to get over it.

924
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: That's just the way it is.

925
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: Does it does it? Does he? Does it? Do him

926
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: help or harm?

927
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: Though?

928
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: When okay, he had they had the Lions on J

929
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: tell about JJ McCarthy, They they they obviously have a

930
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: great performance, probably certainly the best performance a year against

931
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: the Lions, and I think it was after I think

932
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: it was that week.

933
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: Then it was we come to find out that.

934
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: JJ refers to the player he becomes or wants to

935
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 3: be on Sunday as nine, that there's this alter ego,

936
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: and I don't doubt.

937
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: That's maybe how he thinks.

938
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: But I'm going, man, wait to wait to establish or

939
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: to build the myth until you've got a body of

940
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 3: work at this level.

941
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: You know where you can go down that road.

942
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: I just don't think he does himself any favors, even

943
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: if it's not intended as anything to say I've got this.

944
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: I mean, they're all Hall of Fame quarterbacks. They didn't

945
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: talk about alter egos on Sunday?

946
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: So does that? Does that?

947
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 3: Does he doing himself any favors when he goes down

948
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: those road, that road before anything really has happened to

949
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: the good.

950
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 5: Well, in a different case, he use it to that

951
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 5: guy who gives himself the self appointed nick name. Right, yes, yes,

952
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: like it's four games. I'm not talking about JJ, but

953
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: four games in his careers, they do. Nobody calls you

954
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: that you and then you expect to call you that,

955
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 5: and then when you struggle like.

956
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: You're the one or the man, and then you throw

957
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: four picks, it's like, well, you were the man last week.

958
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: So of course when you do that stuff, whether even if.

959
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 5: It motivates him great whatever whatever, you know, you know,

960
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 5: floats his boat to get going any of us, it

961
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 5: gets it, whatever that motivation is. I like the fact

962
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 5: the alter ego. If it's Hulk, great, but we expected

963
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 5: to play like folk. If it's nine, wherever you go,

964
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 5: no problem.

965
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: Right.

966
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 5: But when you say that, you know, especially on social media,

967
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: is brutal and relentless.

968
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: You open to yourself.

969
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 5: Up to criticism from everybody, and then you know, but

970
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: we don't need bore. I like the guy who's got

971
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 5: confidence in SA But here's what happens, Dan is eventually

972
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 5: we'll all do that for him, that alter egos kicking

973
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 5: ass to once you do and let us know and

974
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 5: kind of joke, Yeah, trying to get into my alter

975
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: ego where you know, this beast comes out great and

976
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 5: then leave it and then we'll all say, man, where's that?

977
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: All three? Let us tell you how great you are.

978
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: I've always just thought, you know, it's good to have

979
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: confidence and let people know that you're good, you're overcoming

980
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: it and find But I just think that now with

981
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 5: social media. Twenty years ago, nobody we'd have heard it

982
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 5: once and moved on, but now you'll get reminded of it,

983
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: good or bad along the way.

984
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 4: So JJ's gonna learn. Man, he's a kid and we've

985
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: got to understand that.

986
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 5: And I know he's an adult making money, but he's

987
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 5: still a kid when it comes to the infancy of

988
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: this game. But yes, when you, like any of us,

989
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: I've been there, you say something, you're like, oh my gosh,

990
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: I shouldn't have said that, because now and we all do,

991
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 5: and then you learn and you go back how he

992
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: handles it'll be fine, But yes, you open yourself up

993
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: good or bad to criticism or compliments when you're going

994
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: to the truth of the matter is if you take

995
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 5: care of your business, which he will, we'll all do

996
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 5: all the great stuff for you. We'll all do all

997
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: the talking for you, like we all intend to do.

998
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: And I think like Viking fans plan and I can

999
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: tell you this, with the commitment the Vikings made to

1000
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy, they're not turning.

1001
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: On him anytime soon because they gave up.

1002
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: A pro bowler and a guy who's playing like a

1003
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 5: pro bowler of the Giants, two guys, yes, that are

1004
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: killing it right now, that went through the same stuff

1005
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 5: JJ's go right now. They were obliterated by their people.

1006
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: They were obliterated by meeting some of their home crowd.

1007
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 4: Literally.

1008
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: There are compliments that he's young, but they went through

1009
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: getting kicked in the teeth. And now, look, JJ's got

1010
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: some toughness, and that alter Eagle's going to have to

1011
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 5: be tough because they face another good defense this week

1012
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 5: and it's going to be a challenge and he's got

1013
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 5: to get after it, and I would fully expect it

1014
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: along the way, he's going to look back and say

1015
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: my rookie year, which rookie year, the injury and then

1016
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 5: his second year were the greatest thing that happened to

1017
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: me because I learned a great deal. Just remove the clutter,

1018
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 5: and you don't need our approval or our validation. Yet

1019
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: when we're asked our jobs to give it, whether people

1020
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 5: like it or not.

1021
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: Kill the clutter. I think is the is the mantra

1022
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: from Sean Salisby today.

1023
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm very late. We got one minute left.

1024
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: If you can get this in quick, what are the

1025
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: chances the Vikings can can can beat the Packers on Sunday.

1026
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 5: Well, the chance exists because I've seen every week week

1027
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: is adding all the states, so it happens every week. Listen,

1028
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 5: if they both play their best, the Packers are the

1029
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 5: better team right now. JJ's going to have to have

1030
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 5: an out of body experience.

1031
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: Dad. That doesn't mean clutter it up.

1032
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 5: Just deliver the ball to the open guy, get through

1033
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: it and play a little When I say street yard,

1034
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: play a little relaxed street yard in your mind, not

1035
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 5: where you're just running helter skelter all just play. Just

1036
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 5: play a little football like you did when you were

1037
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: in the seventh grade with your buddies and let it rip.

1038
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 5: But you're going to have to defend the whole field.

1039
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 5: They've got a good quarterback. The key is keeping him

1040
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: up right where he doesn't have to, you know, bail

1041
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 5: out of that pocket.

1042
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: Soon you're going to get a vicious defense coming after him.

1043
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 5: But if they don't protect the football, they'll be in

1044
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 5: trouble and he's going to have to convert a lot

1045
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 5: of third downs and touchdowns in the red zone would

1046
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 5: be a big thing.

1047
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 4: This week we.

1048
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: Will say Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours because obviously

1049
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: next Thursday is Thanksgiving, so you will be off.

1050
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: We will be off as well.

1051
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: So thanks again for all the insight and we will

1052
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: chat in a couple weeks.

1053
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: How's that sound.

1054
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 5: Yes, I love it, And good luck to the Vikings,

1055
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 5: and thanks for the great fans, and always thank you

1056
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: for having me on. And I hope everybody has a

1057
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: happy and healthy and safe Thanksgiving.

1058
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 3: Thanks my friend, be good you bet Sean Salisbury excellent

1059
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: stuff from him.

1060
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: We'll finish with this.

1061
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: Vike's taking a take, Vikings take a dive, JJ tries

1062
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: to survive, Koces, jive Moss and Carter ain't dropping No.

1063
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: Five. It's not bad. That's a nice veryation