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Speaker 1: We're in the studio again tonight for the West Miller

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Speaker 1: Radio Show. I'm Dan Horde with former Bearcats stand out

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Speaker 1: Terry Nelson and the head coach of your Bearcats, Wes Miller.

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Speaker 1: Coming off a tremendous win last night on the road

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Speaker 4: Well, offensively, we've been able to put put games together,

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, every every season always has its unique challenges,

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Speaker 4: But again, every year has its challenges, and I think

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Speaker 5: You guys weren't necessarily blitzing or or you know, blitzing

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Speaker 1: Most coaches that I know are at least a little superstitious.

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Speaker 4: I love my girlfriend Lauren, but she's not the reason

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Speaker 3: So let's spend it on the stuff that actually matters.

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Speaker 1: The Bearcats have won two straight. They'll try to make

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Speaker 1: a moment from the studio tonight on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: In the studio tonight, it's.

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Speaker 1: The West Miller Radio Show here on news radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. The Bearcats winners again last night. They've won

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Speaker 1: You did not have Mustafa Chom last night, the second

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the biggest difference between it was the

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Speaker 3: The foul trouble was probably the biggest difference.

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Speaker 5: What's the I just read off all these these injuries

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Speaker 3: Going forward, Well, you know, move's day to day with

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Speaker 4: You know, he rolled, rolled it or tweaked it again

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Speaker 4: I told him, I said, I love that you're back

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Speaker 1: I asked you about Jalen Haynes on the pregame show

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Speaker 4: He but you know he I say all that he

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Speaker 3: So this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: He was leading us in block shots in the preseason

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Speaker 4: He had a really high assist rate. I thought the

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Speaker 5: Ninety two points versus UCF, ninety one points versus Kansas State.

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Speaker 4: I think we made a lot of offensive adjustments back

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about walk on scoring. Brant

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Speaker 4: He he hasn't scored in a real game, correct, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds about That sounds about right.

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Speaker 4: watching the tape and I was mad about a.

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Speaker 3: Bunch of stuff. You know, But no, I there's a

440
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Speaker 3: lot of things.

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Speaker 4: I think again, our identity, the way we play, it

442
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Speaker 4: starts with how we defend. I think when we're ready

443
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Speaker 4: early in the possession, whether that's we got back and

444
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Speaker 4: got our defense set and transition to the point that

445
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Speaker 4: we're able to build our pressure out right.

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Speaker 3: I think we're different.

447
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Speaker 4: I think when we're in a stance and we're in

448
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Speaker 4: position early to make an entry pass tougher, or to

449
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Speaker 4: push a catch out right, or to get to a

450
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Speaker 4: coverage and a pick and roll earlier, I think we're different.

451
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Speaker 4: When they do that, we are different. You mentioned you

452
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Speaker 4: can see the ball pressure when those things are happening.

453
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Speaker 4: When we just take a half a second of a break,

454
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Speaker 4: we're just not quite as good. So that's an area

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Speaker 4: that I just want to be so consistent. I think

456
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Speaker 4: our activity and our rotations, our activity with our hands

457
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Speaker 4: in terms of like the deflections that we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 4: I want that to improve. I want our defensive rebounding

459
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Speaker 4: to really improve.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of weak side blockouts last night that we missed.

462
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Speaker 4: You know, some of our offensive unds we gave up.

463
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Speaker 4: We're all on two possessions in the first half. I

464
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Speaker 4: think we'd given up seven offensive rebounds in the first

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Speaker 4: half last night, and five of them were on two possessions.

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Speaker 4: So we just can't have those moments where we don't

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Speaker 4: stay disciplined. And I start with the defensive end, because

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Speaker 4: I think it drives the rest of the rest of

469
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Speaker 4: our game. I think it drives our offense and our pace.

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Speaker 4: I think offensively, you know, I love that we shot

471
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Speaker 4: the ball well the last couple of games. I don't

472
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Speaker 4: want us to fall in love with the three. I

473
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Speaker 4: want us to keep trying to get to the paint,

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Speaker 4: get on the post, to get easy baskets in transition,

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Speaker 4: and then play inside out. The biggest worry you have

476
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Speaker 4: when you shoot it like that is then those guys

477
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Speaker 4: fall in love with it and stop doing the things

478
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Speaker 4: they did to generate those kind of shots. So I

479
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Speaker 4: think that's important. And I've said this all along, like,

480
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Speaker 4: we have to take care of the ball this team.

481
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Speaker 4: I mean, we have to take care of the ball.

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Speaker 4: We have to be great on the boards. I hope

483
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Speaker 4: you can see the emphasis we've maken on the offensive

484
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Speaker 4: boards recently. We're tipping it out much better. Yeah, I

485
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Speaker 4: lovely like but yeah, So I think those are the

486
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Speaker 4: areas that even if there's some really good things that

487
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Speaker 4: we can emphasize, there's some things that aren't good enough,

488
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Speaker 4: and those areas we're going to try to keep growing.

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Speaker 1: It is halftime of the West Miller Radio Show. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back after the news on news radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: We are back on the West Miller Radio Show here

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Speaker 1: on news radio seven hundred WLW. The Bearcats will return

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Speaker 1: to action at home on Sunday at noon against Utah.

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Speaker 1: Don't know how deeply you've studied Utah at this point, coach,

495
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Speaker 1: but I did a little homework on the utes. Fifty

496
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Speaker 1: percent of their scoring comes from two guys. I'm well

497
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Speaker 1: aware of Terrence Brown, who's among the leaders in the

498
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Speaker 1: league in scoring. McHenry, I believe, is the number two

499
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Speaker 1: score averaging about seventeen points a game. So the task

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Speaker 1: against those guys, I would think is relatively clear. You

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Speaker 1: got to try to hold those two guys to a

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Speaker 1: reasonable number.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like everybody in our league, there's some prolific backcour guys,

504
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Speaker 4: and then you know, I think the returning player in

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Speaker 4: their starting lineup kind of dolls.

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Speaker 3: He's really improved too.

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Speaker 4: I haven't looked exactly at the numbers, his personal numbers yet.

508
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: I just dove into them for the first time today,

509
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Speaker 4: but he's really improved. They're a very good offensive team.

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Speaker 4: They've been in every game. I mean, they were in

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Speaker 4: a game against you know, Houston at home a couple

512
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Speaker 4: of nights ago. So it's one of those things you

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Speaker 4: don't look at the record. You look at how competitive

514
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Speaker 4: they've been every night in this league. You know how

515
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Speaker 4: difficult it is to do that. And so that'll be

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Speaker 4: another big twelve challenge coming up here on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: When you hear the turm a team that likes to

518
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Speaker 5: control the temple, you think if somebody that likes to

519
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Speaker 5: walk the ball up, getting sets and do that, and

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Speaker 5: that's what Utah is, sort of controlling temple. But your

521
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Speaker 5: defense has controlled Temple pretty much all season long with

522
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Speaker 5: you're not gonna do certain things, We're gonna take this

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Speaker 5: stuff away from you, and that's how you control temple.

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Speaker 3: So who do you.

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Speaker 5: Think what's the sort of the equalizer, your defense controlling

526
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Speaker 5: temple or them trying to make sure you guys don't

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Speaker 5: get out in transition.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting, Terry like watching them today because you see

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Speaker 4: the like average possession length, like what people will call

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Speaker 4: pace of play, and it appears to be more deliberate,

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Speaker 4: but that's the fact, right, their pace of play number,

532
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Speaker 4: but they're playing like with with a ton of pace

533
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Speaker 4: within the possession, like with body movement and player movement.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like pretty fast hitting offense. You know,

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Speaker 4: they get to multiple on ball actions in a possession.

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Speaker 4: They have great spacing, you know, you can see you know,

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Speaker 4: I think their coach was with the the you know,

538
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Speaker 4: the NBA for the last ten years plus, so you

539
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: can see that like professional style spacing. They do a

540
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Speaker 4: great job of getting downhill and then making the right

541
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Speaker 4: play and the ball kind of hangs around, so it's

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Speaker 4: not deliberate where they walk it up and call a

543
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Speaker 4: set like they're playing like fast paced flow offense. But

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Speaker 4: they'll keep working at it through a possession till they

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Speaker 4: get the shot they want. So even though they use

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Speaker 4: some shot clock, they're playing with great pace. It'll it'll

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Speaker 4: definitely challenge our defense, as has challenged defenses in our

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Speaker 4: league all year.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of data out there. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: have access to a lot more than I do. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: Is there a stat or something that you really think

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Speaker 1: is the biggest the first thing that you check in

553
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Speaker 1: determining how your team is doing from an analytical standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just points for possession on offense and defense, just

555
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Speaker 4: like automatic It's like that's like, you know, brushing teeth.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you wake up, your brush your teeth. I

557
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Speaker 4: at least, gosh, I hope everybody does. If you're gonna

558
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Speaker 4: interact with me, I hope you do, you know, But

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing that I'm gonna look at,

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Speaker 4: you know, after any segment of live play, whether it's

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Speaker 4: in a practice a game like a halftime, is our

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Speaker 4: point what's our points per possession played? And what's our

563
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Speaker 4: defense or what's the other team's points possession against our defense?

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Speaker 3: That's automatic.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna look at offensive reboundy percentage next, which conversely

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Speaker 4: would be our defensive rebounding percentage. I'm gonna look at

567
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Speaker 4: our assists rate next. I'm gonna look at our turnover

568
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Speaker 4: rate next, and then finally I would, you know, look

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Speaker 4: at our effective field goal percentage, and then our free

570
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Speaker 4: throw attempts and our free throw percentage. Those would be

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Speaker 4: more or less like the nuts and bolts of the

572
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Speaker 4: evaluation of how we're playing. And then it's all it's

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Speaker 4: the converse of your defense as well.

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Speaker 3: So what's good points per possession?

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Speaker 4: You know? I think anything on offense, you know, one plus.

576
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Speaker 4: To keep it simple for this conversation is is where

577
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Speaker 4: you need to be, and you know, anything below that

578
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 4: on defense is what you're looking We kind of stretch

579
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Speaker 4: both of those things. You know, where we want our

580
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: defense to be down like point nine, zero point nine

581
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Speaker 4: to one depending on the opponent and who they are offensively,

582
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Speaker 4: and certainly want our offense to get like one point

583
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Speaker 4: oh two or one point one, you know that kind

584
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Speaker 4: of thing. I'm sorry, one point one or one point

585
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: one two, that kind of thing. You know, you guys

586
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Speaker 4: know what our offensive numbers. We haven't been able to

587
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Speaker 4: meet those metrics in a lot of Ironically, Haynes's team

588
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: was always like really high in this offensive efficiency and

589
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Speaker 4: their points for possession, but our defensive numbers have met

590
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Speaker 4: their mark on most halfs in most nights.

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Speaker 5: As you guys are playing better over the last uh,

592
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Speaker 5: I guess six games theirs on a trip. That's a

593
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Speaker 5: that's a throwaway over the last six games, playing really

594
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Speaker 5: really well.

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Speaker 3: But your teams when they've been playing well, there's not.

596
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Speaker 5: A lot of chess bumping, there's not a lot of

597
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: bravital there's not a lot of stuff that you would

598
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Speaker 5: think from a team that has not performed to the

599
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Speaker 5: level because of various things that they wanted to. Now

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Speaker 5: that they're starting to experience it, you would think they'll

601
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Speaker 5: be a little bit more showing out.

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Speaker 3: But how have you kept them locked in to what matters?

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Speaker 4: I just think there's expectations, Terry, Like, I think this

604
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Speaker 4: team expected from day one to be a very good

605
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Speaker 4: basketball team in college basketball, a team that can compete

606
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Speaker 4: with everybody in college basketball. So I think if there's success,

607
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: I think that this group expects that, and I think

608
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Speaker 4: when there's been failure, I certainly in the moment there's

609
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: disappointment and frustration, but I think they've responded and been resilient,

610
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Speaker 4: you know, the next day. I think this group has

611
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: had quite a bit maturity in those ways.

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Speaker 1: See now, I'm glad you asked that question, because it's

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Speaker 1: really striking to me watching Jizsel play. He had twenty

614
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Speaker 1: four points last night, knocked in six threes. He has

615
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Speaker 1: become stonefaced. Yes, he does not give away whether he's up,

616
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Speaker 1: whether he's down. I mean he has just expressionless. And

617
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Speaker 1: I'm old school, so I kind.

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Speaker 3: Of like that. How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe the party you talk about, maybe personality, I mean,

620
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Speaker 4: dada and jizzled. Both are not extroverts at all. They're

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Speaker 4: introverts in their own right, and so they don't show

622
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Speaker 4: a ton of emotion on the basketball court that you

623
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Speaker 4: know that the average person can see. Now, when day

624
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Speaker 4: they got hit in the face last night it comes out,

625
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Speaker 4: I was actually worried. I almost ran out there and

626
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Speaker 4: grabbed him because I saw him get hit. That's why,

627
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Speaker 4: even though we're up twenty five or thirty and you

628
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Speaker 4: know it's four minutes and the clock, I like, I

629
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Speaker 4: know what that.

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Speaker 3: I know him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's he doesn't respond to a lot, as

632
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Speaker 4: you guys say.

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Speaker 3: But he took a sh shot in the face. Did

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Speaker 3: he take two? Did it happen twice in a short

635
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Speaker 3: span of time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And the second one, whether it was or not,

637
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Speaker 4: I knew he felt that it was delivered in the moment.

638
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Speaker 4: And so I was actually really impressed. He's grown up

639
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Speaker 4: a lot because the day they that came out of

640
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: Juco a couple of years ago would have been throwing punches.

641
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Speaker 4: And but no, they're both more reserved naturally. Now let

642
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: me tell you what's going on inside of him. It's

643
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: a pretty pretty crazy fire. They both have that. But

644
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Speaker 4: they're pretty reserved naturally, and then you kind of you

645
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: kind of get Sean Abiah is certainly like that. He

646
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Speaker 4: carries himself in a very reserved way. You know, Baba

647
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Speaker 4: was always like that. He's kind of shown some some

648
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Speaker 4: some extra yeah, like he'll scream and you know, he'll

649
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: get He'll show some emotion on the court, which nobody's

650
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: ever really seen out of him until this year, which

651
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: has been kind of fun.

652
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Speaker 3: Uh, and you know, you keep going down.

653
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Speaker 4: Mustafa can can show some emotion, but a lot of

654
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Speaker 4: the it's more their nature when they play to be

655
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Speaker 4: to be a little more stoic. Kyshaw got a little

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Speaker 4: fired up, well him, you know. Now now we go

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Speaker 4: to Buck that's the other extreme. But Keith Keishaw ken

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Speaker 4: like shows it on his shoulder, right, like he shows

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Speaker 4: his emotions on this or wears h on his on

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Speaker 4: his sleeve.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's just personality some of it.

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Speaker 3: Got a break.

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Speaker 1: We will take a break. We'll come back with a

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Speaker 1: couple of fun topics when we continue. This is the

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Speaker 1: West Miller Radio Show from the studio tonight on News

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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: We got about ten minutes left.

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Speaker 1: We have Coach Miller on the West Miller Radio show

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Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW. Let's have a little fun

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Speaker 1: to wrap up the show. I think we did this

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Speaker 1: last week. We've got the te Time with Tnell segment

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Speaker 1: on the pregame show for every broadcast, and I'd like

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Speaker 1: to get your answers to some of these questions that

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Speaker 1: t Nell has answered on recent broadcasts. So last night

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the fact that in between his

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Speaker 1: stints at West Virginia and Cincinnati, Coach Huggins was at

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Speaker 1: Kansas State for one year. While he was there, he

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Speaker 1: had Bill Walker on his team. Bill Walker played high

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Speaker 1: school basketball at North College Hill along with Oj Mayo.

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Speaker 1: That got me thinking that Oj Mayo was the best

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Speaker 1: high school player I've ever seen in person. I asked

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Speaker 1: Tell for his question. His answer to that question, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: tell Tyson Chandler.

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Speaker 5: Tyson Chandler twenty six points, eighteen rebounds, I'm sorry, fifteen rebounds,

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Speaker 5: eight blocks, five dunks.

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Speaker 3: He just terrorized California.

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Speaker 1: So who is the best high school basketball player you

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Speaker 1: ever saw in person?

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Speaker 4: Played against Tyson Chandler many times in AAU on the

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Speaker 4: Nike circuit, but the first time I ever played against him.

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Speaker 4: I was fourteen years old at the AAU Nationals in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 4: Fourteen and under AAU Nationals he played for the so

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Speaker 4: Cal All Stars. He was sixteen at fourteen, and you

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Speaker 4: were I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Less, but it stood out.

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Speaker 4: Their whole team stood out that team, and that team

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Speaker 4: ended up stemming staying together and playing all the way

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Speaker 4: through a lot of those guys. But he was a

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Speaker 4: guy that you knew when you were fourteen. He was

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Speaker 4: that good then. Yeah, he was incredible. Yeah, I saw

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Speaker 4: him a lot in high school.

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Speaker 1: So who is the best high school player you've seen

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Speaker 1: in person? Probably Lebron James. He played in the Greensboro

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Speaker 1: Coliseum one night.

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Speaker 4: He's pretty dang good guys in high school, but you know,

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Speaker 4: like you, I'd have to really think about it for

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Speaker 4: a little bit, but that probably Lebron James.

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Speaker 5: I was supposed to coach Lebron James in the I

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Speaker 5: was coaching the USA Top forty eight sophomores, and I

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Speaker 5: was supposed to have Lebron James, and I was coaching

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Speaker 5: the North and he broke his wrists in football prece

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Speaker 5: Come on, yes, he.

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Speaker 3: Might be part of his entourage I was so upset.

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Speaker 5: I had Sannon Brown and he was forced to play

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Speaker 5: the guard point guard position and he didn't have one

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Speaker 5: assist the entire tournament in six games. That one I

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Speaker 5: ripped him. I was like, bro, you cannot do the

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Speaker 5: get all these all Americans. Then with the Michigan State

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Speaker 5: Michigan Iowa, and he shot almost every time down the

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Speaker 5: floor and people just hated playing with him. I was like,

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Speaker 5: can you switch? Can you give me a guard for

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Speaker 5: a big man? They would not switch. He could jump, though,

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Speaker 5: Sana can jumps stick all right.

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Speaker 1: Our other tea time with TL question last night had

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Speaker 1: to do with a famous photograph of the Big Oh

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Speaker 1: Oscar Robertson. You've undoubtedly seen it. It's the most iconic

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Speaker 1: photograph of Oscar from his playing days. He's grabbing a rebound.

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Speaker 1: I assume it was a rebound. He is in midair, correct,

729
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Speaker 1: his legs are He's doing a mid air split morning

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Speaker 1: stretch routine exactly. It looks like he's on an invisible

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Speaker 1: balance beam. The ball is basically right below his waist.

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Speaker 1: I brought it up last night because that famous photograph

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Speaker 1: was against Kansas State in an NCAA tournament game. So

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Speaker 1: here's the question. T L had the advantage of getting

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Speaker 1: this question in advance, being able to think about it

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Do you have an all time favorite

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Speaker 1: sports photograph? Does anything immediately come to mind? So so

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Speaker 1: ten L got the advantage. You're gonna put me on

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Speaker 1: the spot, on the spot we can share ours. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so mine is Muhammad Ali. That would have been said, yep,

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Speaker 1: with kind of the bicep flex To me, that's like

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Speaker 1: the most iconic one. You say, what comes to mind?

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Speaker 1: That's the first picture that comes to mind. Like there's

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Speaker 1: a couple Michael Jordan pictures that come to mind, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the one of him and the poster. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: with jumping in the air spread out like or actually

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Speaker 1: the legs kind of back behind him. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: one comes to mind, a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But the the Muhammad Ali one would be the first one.

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Speaker 3: I'd say.

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Speaker 1: The amazing thing about that photo it looks in a

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Speaker 1: still photo like he's standing over him talking trash. He's

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Speaker 1: got the bicep flexed. If you see footage from the fight,

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Speaker 1: that flex was a split second. And back then the

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Speaker 1: photographer who took the picture, Neil Leafer, you didn't have

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Speaker 1: a million exposures that went. He nailed it. I mean

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Speaker 1: he had one shot and nailed that photo. It's an

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Speaker 1: amazing photograph. Now, yeah, you had a basketball I had

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Speaker 1: a second one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had the the Dwayne way when he took

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Speaker 5: a lob to Lebron James and he just went off.

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Speaker 5: It's like that he's looking one way and Lebron is

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Speaker 5: dunking it right behind him.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of icon of I'll give you one. And

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Speaker 4: there's probably so many different pictures of this. But how

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Speaker 4: about like Tiger fist pumping yes with both hands with

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Speaker 4: the cutter, you know, an amen corner and the masters

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Speaker 4: when he hit that chip up and down. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: like a that's a great picture with the gallery in

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Speaker 4: the background.

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Speaker 1: Oh doubt. And also very similar photo with Tiger. But

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Speaker 1: when he forced the playoff at the US Open by

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Speaker 1: burning the eighteenth hole, similar upper cut. Yes, he pointed

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Speaker 1: at the whole greg that was in Louisville.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 4: That was any picture of Tiger playing golfers all time?

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Speaker 1: Right? That good.

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Speaker 4: Let me talk about Jordan, you know, in basketball, and

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Speaker 4: we've talked about that on this show. But Tiger, Tiger

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Speaker 4: deserves I'm the biggest Tiger WOS fan ever.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's a question I asked Terry on Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl Sunday. Tickets to the Super Bowl are ridiculous in

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Speaker 1: recent years. Bad seats go for anywhere from four thousand

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Speaker 1: to six thousand bucks on Ticketmaster. So here's my question

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Speaker 1: for you. If you could attend any sporting event, what

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Speaker 1: would it be.

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Speaker 4: I've been really fortunate that I've attended a lot of

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Speaker 4: great sporting events and even been able to participate and

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Speaker 4: a lot of great sporting events, which is even cooler.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I haven't attended that I would

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Speaker 4: would just love to do.

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Speaker 3: Would would go? Be good? Go to a World Cup game?

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Speaker 3: That's that's it? People over here with the brothers. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I tell you. I told her.

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Speaker 5: If I get out and run it, I might streak

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Speaker 5: to see how you put a little endorsement on my back.

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Speaker 4: And then t'l be some soccer hool against for a day.

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Speaker 4: But that's more more not because of my interest, it's

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Speaker 4: just as it's one of those things that is such

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Speaker 4: a big part of sports in the world, and I've

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Speaker 4: never been anywhere anywhere near it.

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Speaker 3: I want to grow. When's the first time you picked

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Speaker 3: up golf clubs.

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Speaker 4: Hm, I probably you know, swung a golf club or

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Speaker 4: two when I was really young as a kid.

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Speaker 5: Did you have baby clubs for a little plastic ones

807
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Speaker 5: you get for Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Hell, I was a baby. How do I know there's

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Speaker 3: photographs same one that you took that Mohammed? What food

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Speaker 3: did you like when you were two? I mean, do

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Speaker 3: you remember I don't apple sauce. It's only one food

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Speaker 3: you two years old? Apple sauce.

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Speaker 4: No. I think I played a little golf as a kid,

814
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Speaker 4: but I was never really into it till I was

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Speaker 4: in college.

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Speaker 3: Well why do you ask?

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Speaker 5: I'm just want to know, because you you you talk

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Speaker 5: a lot of golf. You like to go golf whenever

819
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Speaker 5: you get a chance to you and Dan, But you're

820
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Speaker 5: a young guy, you're always working with basketball. I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 5: at what age did you pick up golf and say,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 3: I like this, Oh, definitely in college.

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Speaker 4: And let's be clear, like one of the reasons that

825
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Speaker 4: I love it now, like it's because it's I can

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Speaker 4: still get the competitive juices flowing. It's like the only

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Speaker 4: way because I physically can't do what I have to

828
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Speaker 4: do to get them flowing on the basketball court that

829
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Speaker 4: those days are over. But when I go out there

830
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Speaker 4: and play team with Dan and you know, bet one

831
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Speaker 4: hundred dollars, I can see, I can still it still

832
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Speaker 4: feels like the National Championship on eighteen. Do you ever

833
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Speaker 4: walk the oh, I'd much prefer a walk. Yeah, that's

834
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Speaker 4: that's the way the game was intended to be played.

835
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Speaker 1: Okay, I played better when I walk. You kind of

836
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: visualize the shot as you're walking towards your ball, and

837
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Speaker 1: I think it's helpful assuming it's a course where you

838
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Speaker 1: can There are some courses where you know, the distance

839
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Speaker 1: from one hole to the next requires a hill going

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Speaker 1: down to Yeah too. All right, final tea time with

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Speaker 1: tw question. We got about two and a half minutes left.

842
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Speaker 1: Do you have an all time favorite Super Bowl halftime show?

843
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Speaker 3: Michael Jackson? This is not even close.

844
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Speaker 1: I was there, Come on, man, every halftime I say it,

845
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Speaker 1: damn was like I was there.

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Speaker 3: Just it's not it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been too many, but I was there. It

848
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Speaker 1: was Bill's Cowboys in the Rose Bowl. That's correct. And

849
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Speaker 1: as I described to TL, what was awesome about the

850
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Speaker 1: performance is the first thing you see is Michael on

851
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Speaker 1: top of one of the video boards in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Everybody goes crazy.

853
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Speaker 1: Then another Michael appears on the video board on the

854
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Speaker 1: other side of the stadium, so you realize their body doubles.

855
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Speaker 1: Then Michael comes up through the stage at the fifty

856
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Speaker 1: yard line on some sort of hydraulic lift you performed

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Speaker 1: for twelve minutes on a Super Bowl halftime show. He

858
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: stood there motionless for two minutes, and the anticipation was

859
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Speaker 1: built up like nothing I've ever seen before in my life.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't wait for him to start singing. He just

861
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Speaker 1: stood there and then much and then he launches into

862
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Speaker 1: Billy Jean and it was amazing. Oh yeah, that's fine

863
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Speaker 1: by far Billy Jean. Then I think we are not

864
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Speaker 1: we are the world black or white. And then he

865
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Speaker 1: did some sort of song that I didn't really know

866
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Speaker 1: that was like, you know, uniting the children of the world.

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Speaker 4: Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that part was kind of a down er.

869
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Speaker 1: I wanted another hit, but in any case, great call

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Speaker 1: off the top of your head.

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Speaker 3: So the same thing happened when we played in the

872
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Speaker 3: Crown last year.

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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: We go to see a magic show and the guy's

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Speaker 5: talking to us up front and he goes one second,

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Speaker 5: and then he goes into a box and as they're

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Speaker 5: trying to unlock the box, he appears in the back,

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Speaker 5: like within five seconds, and everybody turns around like, wait

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Speaker 5: a minute, hand the hill.

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Speaker 3: He's in the back already.

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Speaker 5: Like he had no chance to get siphoned from one

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Speaker 5: thing to the other.

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Speaker 3: He just went in the box and appeared in the back.

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Speaker 3: So was that a body double?

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Speaker 1: If you recall, he briefly like covered himself with some

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Speaker 1: sort of blanket or something and you could kind of

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Speaker 1: see the outline of his body, but he had to

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Speaker 1: be gone, so there was some sort of mannequin or

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Speaker 1: something that had us believing that he was still there and.

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Speaker 3: Then cracking the cold. Yeah, exactly. You're not gonna be enough.

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Speaker 3: It's like people that count cards in Vegas.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna be allowed to any more mess shows.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are out of time. Enjoyed it again.

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Speaker 1: It's the Bearcats against Utah Sunday at noon. Our pregame

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Speaker 1: covering on out. We'll begin at eleven thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: For Coach Miller and for t Now, I'm Dan Horde.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. This has been the West Miller Radio Show,

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