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Speaker 1: Alex Lewis covers the Minnesota Vikings for the Athletic and

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Speaker 1: via x at Alec Underscore Lewis and Alec. Lewis is

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Speaker 1: also a noted National Football League film watcher and he

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Speaker 1: joins us now It's ten of five Good Morning, Alec

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Speaker 1: noted film watcher. When with the film and with the

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Speaker 1: All twenty two, you've watched of Kyler Murray before, during,

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Speaker 1: and or after the signing to the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen in good morning?

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Speaker 3: Hey Paul, good to talk to you. Thanks for having

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Speaker 3: me on the program. Yeah, I've watched a lot of

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Speaker 3: tape of Kyler, going back to I don't know, probably

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Speaker 3: a month and a half ago when the season ended

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Speaker 3: and you start to hear a lot of the quarterback names.

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Speaker 3: At surface, part of me was just like, can I

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Speaker 3: in my own head stat these guys and what I

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Speaker 3: think before I talk to people internally and externally about

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Speaker 3: what they think. And I mean it was pretty clear

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Speaker 3: from the outset that Kyler is, I mean was the

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Speaker 3: most talented guy of all of the available players. I

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Speaker 3: think in some ways there is a misconception that he

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Speaker 3: is just a playmaker. He can play in rhythm. He's

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Speaker 3: pretty accurate as a thrower. The arm talent, I mean

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Speaker 3: IM mean honestly, Like the tape is pretty fun to

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Speaker 3: idea of pairing him with Kevin and with the way

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Speaker 3: fascinated to see it. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: That's great. Ten O seven KFA and Sports Talk Time.

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Speaker 1: Alec Lewis from The Athletic and the Athletic dot Com

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Speaker 1: joins nine to Noon as a noted film watcher. When

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Speaker 1: you when you analyze the all twenty two of Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and he's getting himself in trouble, what are you seeing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the two things it's a great question too.

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Speaker 3: I think the two things that show up are sometimes

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Speaker 3: it does look like either you know he misses reads

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Speaker 3: you know he's either trying to play make and create

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Speaker 3: it just becomes kind of congested and or you get

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Speaker 3: bad bad reads, bad you know, quick triggered, poor results.

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Speaker 3: Like I think that that's one area, and then the

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Speaker 3: other one is just when he does playmake and he

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Speaker 3: and I think like that's gonna be a component that

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Speaker 3: because he hasn't played a full season more than once

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Speaker 3: in the last five years, and while the talent is undeniable,

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Speaker 3: I think him staying healthy is going to be a

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Speaker 3: crucial component of it, as it is with all of

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Speaker 3: these guys, mean, Kevin O'Connell and Robert Zinski at the

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Speaker 3: combine probably on your show and with the Beat writers

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Speaker 3: made it pretty clear like when they've had a guy

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Speaker 3: having that guy play an entire season is going to

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Speaker 1: Kyler, I know, the nuts and bolts of getting below

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Speaker 1: the surface really matter to you. With the work you

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Speaker 1: put in up to games and with your stories and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it's greatly appreciated by me and

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Speaker 1: around here. So you know, I went deep diving on

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Speaker 1: some Kyler Murray related things this morning, through the next

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Speaker 1: Gen bit and the true media bit. I was astounded

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Speaker 1: to learn that in his first two years twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: And spikes to kill the clock.

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Speaker 1: He he didn't pay under center one time, you know,

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Speaker 3: You Yeah, it's It's a fascinating conversation, and it gets

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Speaker 3: And I like there are a couple of ways to

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Speaker 3: he really can execute that stuff pretty well. But there

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Speaker 3: So it's but I think, like you know, I love

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad you mentioned that about the gun runs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in thirty minutes. Kevin O'Connell suddenly had he dropped something

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Speaker 1: from a deducing standpoint, Yeah, Frank Smith comes here from

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Speaker 1: Do you think it involves that guy, Frank Smith? And

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Speaker 3: had a lot of exposure to different things, some of

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Speaker 3: so yeah, I fully expect when Kevin mentioned that, I

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Speaker 3: I also think, I mean, the run game might look

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know, the run game we talked

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Speaker 3: as part of the Vikings approach, and Kevin O'Connor's approached

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Speaker 4: The conversations and listeners are going to hear Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously you know, Kevin O'Connell was asked

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Speaker 3: twice about it by ESPN's Kevin see for Yesterday last night,

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Speaker 3: a hard time believing a guy who was accomplished what

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Speaker 3: McCarthy making a massive leap. But I think that's so

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Speaker 3: that's like Kevin O'Connell as part of his views on

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Speaker 3: And so I think that's why you've had kind of

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Speaker 4: You've had specifically with Kyler, and you've mentioned it, you know,

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Speaker 4: scheme radio as it is, whether it's the run game,

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Speaker 4: Maybe we still effort in the draft for a rookie

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Speaker 4: And let me ask you this, Alec, because we were

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Speaker 4: You've you've seen all the arguments. I'm sure you participate

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Speaker 4: I think this deleting of that year is actually more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Brian O'Neil, I know his representation met with

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Speaker 1: Hey, since since we don't know one, well next chat

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame fell to number eighteen, which isn't gonna happen,

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Speaker 3: but if in the realm of possibility that happened, like

436
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Speaker 3: it would be hard for me to rule that out

437
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Speaker 3: because I think the team really likes him and he

438
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Speaker 3: is an electric back. As far as second, third round,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys both know this. Like oftentimes, if

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Speaker 3: you're taking a running back in the fifth round, I

441
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Speaker 3: mean you're it's I mean, you're like betting a fifteen

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Speaker 3: percent chance that guy is gonna hit. Whereas if you

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Speaker 3: take a running back in the second or third round,

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Speaker 3: it's probably closer to a thirty percent chance, where you're

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Speaker 3: probably more likely to shoot the shots.

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Speaker 5: So I would rule.

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Speaker 3: Out something like that, but I you know, the way

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Speaker 3: they want to view this draft, I think is like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: how do we objectively stack the board of who we like,

450
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Speaker 3: we know the positions we need. We're not gonna, you know,

451
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Speaker 3: just draft for need and when players align, we will

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Speaker 3: take them. And if that's that running back, I think,

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Speaker 3: even even though Aaron Jones is back, I just would

454
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Speaker 3: never say never, because they do view the important the

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Speaker 3: position as important, and I think that's right for them too.

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Speaker 3: That's why Travis Etn's name came up a little bit

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Speaker 3: early in the free agency period, but he was paid

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Speaker 3: an exorbitant amount. So uh yeah, that's that's kind of

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Speaker 3: how I look at that one.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the time, and have a wonderful weekend. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Always great to be on to speak with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the weekend. I heard it's gonna I'm in Nashville.

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Speaker 3: I heard it's gonna snow a lot, and I mean

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Speaker 3: it's I don't know, I might stay in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what they're saying. I mean, just when you

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Speaker 1: think you have the snowplows put away. That's how Minnesota

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Speaker 1: winner works. Hey, great chatting with you and I look

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing you soon. Okay, thanks, yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Alec Lewis The Athletic and the Athletic dot Com. Second

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Speaker 1: half the radio show begins with some Ko cuts. This

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Speaker 1: is the Friday Football Feast. This is nine to.

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Speaker 6: Apa John in Phoenix here formerly in Minneapolis. The consensus

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Speaker 6: among Cardinals fans about Tyler seems to be one of

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Speaker 6: frustration because they saw the elite play they saw the

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Speaker 6: high end playmaking ability, and they just weren't able to

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Speaker 6: harness it for long enough and put him in a

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Speaker 6: scheme and with coaching that would allow him to succeed consistently.

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Speaker 2: I think KOs will do.

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Speaker 6: That, especially with utilizing Justin Jefferson and Tyler in that connection.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the talkback, John, and safe

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Speaker 1: travels or are glad you're able to find some warmth

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Speaker 1: in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: This is nine to noon.

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Speaker 1: It's ten thirty five trivia question for everybody. Think about

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Speaker 1: it for a second. It's Kyler Murray related. Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings, has thrown nine

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Speaker 1: pick sixes in his career. One went to the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings who caught it and scored.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know who it is?

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Speaker 4: Do I want to give listeners five answer for It's

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Speaker 4: Nick Vigil.

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Speaker 1: Kyler with a new right tackle, shotgun back to pass,

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Speaker 1: straight drop.

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Speaker 7: Dinner stepped up by Nick Figel. Thirty twenty ten touchdown.

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Speaker 7: The first touchdown of Nick Bigel's career comes from the

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Speaker 7: arm of Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: It's up thirty eight yard return and the Vikings have

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Speaker 1: taken a twenty nine twenty four leads.

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Speaker 4: Ko cuts Ko cuts Ko. Kevin Connell addressing the media yesterday,

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Speaker 4: virtually here he is talking about the research and the

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Speaker 4: time he spent just getting to know Kyler's game in

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Speaker 4: the NFL a little more deeply.

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Speaker 8: There's an extensive, extensive film study where you're evaluating the player,

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Speaker 8: but you're also getting a head start.

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Speaker 5: On really really learning what.

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Speaker 8: The player has done, some of the concepts that they've run,

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Speaker 8: the ease at which they run those concepts of throwing

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Speaker 8: a lot of completions and playing with great rhythm and

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Speaker 8: timing with footwork in the pocket of both clean pockets

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Speaker 8: and the NFL pockets that you see with the types

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Speaker 8: of pass rush that you play against.

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Speaker 4: So do you think earlier in the show, Pa talking

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Speaker 4: about the amount of time or the lack of time

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Speaker 4: that he spent under center earlier in his career, and

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Speaker 4: then what he would have seen Kevin O'Connell I'm speaking

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Speaker 4: of in terms of what he would have seen under

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Speaker 4: Drew Petsing's offensive tutelage the last couple of years. Which

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Speaker 4: of those two means more to O'Connell moving forward? Is

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Speaker 4: it just that obvious, Okay, Petsing's got him under center

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Speaker 4: and he's flourishing, Or is it in the right spots,

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Speaker 4: little college ish air raid style but finding some of

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Speaker 4: the deep opportunities that he did earlier in his career

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Speaker 4: with Cliff Kingsbury. What do you think weighs a little

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Speaker 4: heavier as he joins the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: That's very difficult to answer.

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Speaker 1: I just know whether it's Kevin O'Connell or it's an

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Speaker 1: offensive minded coach, or just how about just running offense

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Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League, if you

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Speaker 1: can't get the defense to second guess what's happening because

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Speaker 1: you've turned your back to the defense. Yeah, what are

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Speaker 1: you worth? I mean, quite honestly, if you can't run?

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Speaker 1: I mean Ben Johnson. Is Ben Johnson super well respected.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's so good at what he does. His

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Speaker 1: a topic the entire offseason was getting Caleb Williams to

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Speaker 1: learn how to play under center, turn his back on

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Speaker 1: the defense, and play play action and run play action.

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Speaker 1: You know where you fake the ball to the tailback,

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Speaker 1: but you got linebacker, safeties and or corners, maybe even

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen taking just a fraction of a second or

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Speaker 1: just a little baby step thinking oh here comes the run.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, and then they retreat. I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: so pivotal. It's so pivotal when it comes to running

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Speaker 1: high end offense. And if you if you missed it

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Speaker 1: earlier from what I said, I mean, if it matters

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Speaker 1: to you, it matters to me. The first two years

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Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray's career with with Cliff Kingsbury as coach

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, he didn't run one under center play.

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Speaker 1: It was astounding when I learned this this morning. Not

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Speaker 1: one time in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty did he

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Speaker 1: go under center outside of a kneel down or outside

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Speaker 1: of killing the clock at the end of a half

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Speaker 1: or end of a game. So his career under center.

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Speaker 1: When he goes under center, and it all changed in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four when they had a new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He's a sixty eight percent passer on one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty seven throws. The yards per attempt of eight and

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Speaker 1: a half is really good. So when he goes under center,

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Speaker 1: they were finding the right times to do it. They

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Speaker 1: were striking at eight and a half yards per attempt.

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Speaker 1: The passer rating was one oh one three, but just

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns against three interceptions, which indicates it just wasn't

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Speaker 1: happening a lot. But that doesn't mean the young man

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Speaker 1: is not comfortable doing it. In fact, it's listening to

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Speaker 1: him talk about it in other arenas. I think he's

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Speaker 1: pining to show people I can do this, and I

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Speaker 1: can do it well now. At five po ten to

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Speaker 1: be in the shotgun, you know, then get the snap.

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Speaker 1: You immediately get a quick scan on the field and

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Speaker 1: the pass rushers to be under center, and then go

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Speaker 1: play action. Take the hand off to somebody and turn

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Speaker 1: your back on the defense. Then turn around and make

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Speaker 1: something happen. At five ten, you better know where they're

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Speaker 1: coming from, right in front of you, you know, because

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Speaker 1: that's what makes it easier to do out of the

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Speaker 1: pistol formation, short shotgun somebody behind you or out of

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Speaker 1: the shotgun.

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Speaker 2: This is this, all of this is very compelling to me.

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Speaker 4: It is indeed the running skill of Kyler Murray. The

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Speaker 4: coach thinks he can work with that.

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Speaker 8: The ability to make a lot of throws in the

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Speaker 8: pocket is absolutely paired with the ability to be a

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Speaker 8: real weapon with his athleticisms, quickness, his ability to you know,

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Speaker 8: not only attack the line of scrimmage as a runner,

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Speaker 8: but you know, maintaining the ability to create some throw

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Speaker 8: throwing opportunities off schedule and hopefully be a challenge for

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Speaker 8: the way we're defended with how people do play.

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Speaker 4: Justin looking forward to seeing that running ability. Now to

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Speaker 4: the multiple.

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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, well, what Kevin just said there is very important

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Speaker 1: and it bears explaining because justin Jefferson with the doubles

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Speaker 1: and the triples that Kevin O'Connell talks about all the time,

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Speaker 1: and it's accurate. You go back and watch it and

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Speaker 1: you can see the boxes they're trying to put they

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Speaker 1: put Jefferson in trying to suck a quarterback into something

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Speaker 1: they think they see. Then they throw it and then

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Speaker 1: somebody undercuts it and picks off the pass, but Jefferson

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Speaker 1: faces by far his most intense enveloping coverage on downs

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Speaker 1: one and two on first and second down. That the approach,

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Speaker 1: you know, specifically the last couple of years, has been,

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Speaker 1: we're going to triple this guy. We're going to make

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Speaker 1: you go somewhere else on the early downs because we

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Speaker 1: know how important it is to you and everybody to

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Speaker 1: not be in second and ten and to not be

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Speaker 1: in third and eight or longer. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: take this guy out of the equation. We're going to

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Speaker 1: put you in a predictable third down passing situation, and

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Speaker 1: then we're going to play eighteen differently because we got

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Speaker 1: to take others away. That's a cat and mouse facet

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Speaker 1: of why I went down the road of the importance

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks playing under center, the lack of frequency that

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Speaker 1: has taken place with under center play for Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: and why you know when when he goes under center

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Speaker 1: on first down, like in twenty twenty four, when when

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Speaker 1: things changed for him, Okay, they had a quarter an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator there where the totality of the game mattered.

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Speaker 1: The shiny toy aspect playing the college football hash mark game.

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Speaker 1: That was like, Okay, that's great and everything, but let's

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Speaker 1: try this. So in twenty twenty four, with a competent coordinator,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray goes under center on first down and his

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Speaker 1: passer rating was one twenty point seven. Now, he only

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Speaker 1: did it fifty four times because it was a work

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Speaker 1: in progress, but he went thirty eight to fifty four

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Speaker 1: five h nine, three touchdowns, zero picks, and while going

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Speaker 1: under center on first down in twenty twenty four, his

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Speaker 1: completion percentage in that situation was seventy one point seven.

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Speaker 1: So it's very, very important that this transpires on first

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Speaker 1: and or second downs for Kyler Murray to help free

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson more from.

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Speaker 4: The coach on the other QBS the competition aspect, you know, elevating.

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Speaker 8: That floor so that that will benefit not only those

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Speaker 8: players individually, it'll benefit the collective.

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Speaker 5: Group of guys in that room that Josh is running.

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Speaker 8: And then ultimately, because the position is so so vital

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Speaker 8: to offensive success in the National Football League, it will

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Speaker 8: elevate our offense and our team.

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Speaker 4: And meanwhile, well JJ McCarthy, I know we've all forgotten.

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Speaker 4: He's still on the team, and he's working hard.

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Speaker 5: JJ's you know, I talked to him this week.

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Speaker 8: We have, you know, a great conversation and as we

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Speaker 8: have most of the offseason.

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Speaker 5: About the good work that he's done.

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Speaker 8: He's you know, he's he's focused on what's out in

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Speaker 8: front of him personally, and he's attacking that every single day.

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Speaker 8: He's doing great and as well as as well as

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Speaker 8: Max is.

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Speaker 1: When when Kevin said that yesterday, I wondered to myself

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Speaker 1: and maybe others wondered when he said I talked to

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Speaker 1: JJ this week, that that's that that's different than saying

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Speaker 1: I talked to JJ McCarthy right before this went down. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So read into it however you want. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the perception of what people think somebody feels about

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, I, I, you know, it's just I when

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Speaker 1: he says I spoke with him this week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's an I don't think that's

655
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Speaker 1: an aberration. I I I think O'Connell and others chat

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Speaker 1: would AJJ McCarthy at fair amount now this John Beck

657
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Speaker 1: quarterback school.

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Speaker 2: What if?

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Speaker 1: What if things are transpiring with JJ McCarthy at this

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Speaker 1: quarterback school where when he comes back and they quote

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Speaker 1: compete end quote, or they get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: JJ off what he's done with this school that's outside

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Speaker 1: of the coaching acumen here in Twin City's Orthopedics Performance Center. Well,

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Speaker 1: what if he comes back, He'll be bigger. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty three years old. He has a right to grow,

666
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Speaker 1: So he's going to grow. He has a right to mature.

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Speaker 1: But what if some things really really click with JJ

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Speaker 1: McCarthy at this California quarterback school in a game where

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to give anybody else credit. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: like we don't have our hands on him. He's not

671
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Speaker 1: in the building, he's not on the grass. WHOA, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's fair to bring up that.

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Speaker 1: The absolute hope from yours truly is if things have

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Speaker 1: ascended and or improved with JJ McCarthy somewhere else while

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Speaker 1: he grew, and he comes back and has an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to display them. The assumption and the expectation is he

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Speaker 1: absolutely gets a chance to display them and perhaps turn

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Speaker 1: this into a competition, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Well, the onus is absolutely on him to return from

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Speaker 4: that training that he's doing out West, which I'm back.

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Speaker 4: The onus is on him when he gets those opportunities

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Speaker 4: to display it, to display it in spades.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 4: The one question that I would have because I'm wondering

685
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Speaker 4: the same thing, JJ. That's why I brought it up

686
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Speaker 4: with Alex like competition, you know, and I'm using finger

687
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Speaker 4: quotes and I know this is radio. People can't see

688
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Speaker 4: that competition. What does that mean? And how real is that?

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Speaker 4: The reason I wonder about it is if I'm Kevin

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Speaker 4: O'Connell and I'm entering year five and you can play

691
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Speaker 4: all those games, but he wants to win games no

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Speaker 4: matter what, whether this is year two or year five,

693
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Speaker 4: but year five as it is, and how the timeline

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Speaker 4: has shifted. How do you trust JJ McCarthy at this stage?

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Speaker 4: How do you trust what you see on the practice field?

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Speaker 4: How do you trust in training sessions? You're going to

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Speaker 4: have those conversations. And I'm not saying all of it

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Speaker 4: is completely immaterial, but what you have in terms of

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Speaker 4: a sample size, it's only ten games in a competitive environment.

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Speaker 4: You have this body of work from JJ McCarthy. On

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Speaker 4: the other end of it hasn't always been roses for

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Speaker 4: Kyler either. Ladies, and gentlemen, but you do have a

703
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Speaker 4: significantly more accomplished body of work from Kyler Murray. And

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Speaker 4: so if I'm the head coach, competition certainly exists, and

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Speaker 4: the whole level of the room is going to do

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Speaker 4: what he wanted it to do. It's going to rise.

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Speaker 4: But how much can you really trust JJ McCarthy on

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Speaker 4: the practice field until you get him into a game

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Speaker 4: that truly counts? Right, I don't think it's a competition

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Speaker 4: at this stage.

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Speaker 2: And I'm in lockstep with you.

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Speaker 1: However, the game at Ford Field last year against a

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Speaker 1: team you never beat, you never beat him, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they beat you almost every time and they

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Speaker 1: run up thirty on the Ballyhoo defense. All right, not

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Speaker 1: last year, but that was the case before. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: now we know Ben Leaves. It's it's all regurgitated. But

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Speaker 1: still it was Laporta. It was that game.

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Speaker 2: Weird? Was that a big game?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: How JJ play? He played well, So it's there. So

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the onus being placed on the quarterback, yes,

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Speaker 1: it has become that situation, whether people like it or not.

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Speaker 1: The word trust is multifaceted because if you're hard headed

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Speaker 1: and you've shut down opportunities with a twenty two year old.

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Speaker 2: In that he can't.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference between he needs to work on this

728
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Speaker 1: as opposed to he can't do this. And so therefore

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Speaker 1: the trust aspect of it, in my estimation, comes back

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Speaker 1: to the head coach. You've got to trust yourself to

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Speaker 1: recall things you saw that led you to drafting him. Okay,

732
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Speaker 1: so you put him in certain situations in the middle

733
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Speaker 1: of the field may be problematic, and the John Beck

734
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Speaker 1: quarterback training, whatever it is, handling it ain't. It ain't

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Speaker 1: eleven on eleven, So it's not going to be all right.

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Speaker 1: JJ we hear. You really have trouble between the hash

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Speaker 1: marks getting not getting suckered into things in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field. So, if you believe a voluminous part

739
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Speaker 1: of the playbook involving what is the coach's strength, the

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Speaker 1: head coach of strength is attacking middle zones and getting

741
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Speaker 1: players on the run and getting players over it. Okay,

742
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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, it's it's a McVeigh staple

743
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Speaker 1: and O'Connell is a limb on the McVeigh tree. So

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Speaker 1: to say that McCarthy like you put it perfectly, No,

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Speaker 1: he's not handling that now, that's not happening now in California.

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Speaker 1: But will he be given an opportunity when he comes

747
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Speaker 1: back to show I can now better handle this?

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Speaker 9: Ye?

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Speaker 2: Or what other facets are leading to this? Yeah, very

750
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Speaker 2: well explained by you.

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Speaker 4: And so in the training sessions, that's where that's where

752
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: he just has to ace every single moment. And you

753
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Speaker 4: feel bad about putting this. You mentioned twenty two, twenty

754
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Speaker 4: three years old young cat limited in his first year,

755
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Speaker 4: taken away by injury. But the truth or just the

756
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Speaker 4: real life living of the league is such that he's

757
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Speaker 4: absolutely up against it.

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Speaker 2: He is last leg standing.

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Speaker 4: Desperation has to be perfect every stretch of the way

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Speaker 4: for this thing to truly be a competition.

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Speaker 2: So I hope he's improved.

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Speaker 4: Man, I mean, we drafted this kid tenth overall, it's

763
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Speaker 4: not about rooting for somebody to fail here, correct, But

764
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Speaker 4: in the small sample size we have, it wasn't good enough,

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Speaker 4: which has now put us where we are here talking

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Speaker 4: about Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have two breaks from Kyler Murray conversation

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Speaker 1: in the Kyler the Creator covenant that makes up nine

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Speaker 1: to noon KFA and Sports Time is eleven ten fifty two.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. One of them is next with news to Nord.

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Speaker 1: One team was not able to get the money last night,

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Speaker 1: but did get a point. Another team has a massive,

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Speaker 1: massive basketball game tonight.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank the Minnesota Vikings for signing Kyler

776
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Speaker 1: Murray yesterday and having press conferences and everything. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank them for the attention to version when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the producer of nine to Noon, Eric Nord

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Speaker 1: twist mad producer.

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Speaker 2: And here's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So, k if Kyler Murray doesn't sign yesterday and we

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Speaker 1: don't have conferences and don't turn it into the Kyler

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Speaker 1: Covenant of all of this under center conversation hand the

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Speaker 1: spand is coming up too, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: So I k fair.

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Speaker 1: He probably would have got into some of the box

787
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Speaker 1: in the box yesterday and found the two times yours

788
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Speaker 1: truly said the wild They are gonna win by at

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Speaker 1: least too tonight. In fact, I think it's gonna be

790
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Speaker 1: they're gonna win by three or more. Good golly, oh,

791
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Speaker 1: this is disgusting, But alas it's the Kyler Covenant, so

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Speaker 1: a tension has been diverted.

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Speaker 4: play the highlight from last night's hockey game.

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Speaker 9: Actually slowly ahead ball set out the challenge. Can the

802
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Speaker 9: Ashadi scorers snuck it past ballstead of short side and

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Speaker 9: the Flyers rally in the third win the shootout won nothing,

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Speaker 9: sure do? And they take this game three to two

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Speaker 9: here tonight in Saint Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three two, the shootout final.

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Speaker 4: And I mean it's one of those games we did

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Speaker 4: talk about it during Box in the Box yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Brusso nailed it. This kind of team.

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Speaker 4: You get up so high after just smashing the mammoth

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Speaker 4: and it's emil Andre I believe, really late stages of

812
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Speaker 4: the first period. But then it's like, oh, that's right,

813
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Speaker 4: we're better than this team, and you get capriz off

814
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Speaker 4: in boldy or boldy and then capriz off in the

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Speaker 4: second period. But that's shorty, that's shorty. They gave up

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Speaker 4: in the third man. I mean, it's a bad team

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00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: where you're just kind of trying to moonwalk to the

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Speaker 4: finish line here at this stage of the season. I

819
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: don't know, but it was like the it was like

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Speaker 4: the Wolves Clippers game where Hey, if I told you

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Speaker 4: the Wolves were going to shoot nearly like sixty percent

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Speaker 4: from the field and hit four forty five percent of

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Speaker 4: their threes, you're feeling pretty good about the Wolves winning

824
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 4: that game. Oh wait, Kawhi went for forty five. They

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Speaker 4: shot for like sixty five percent, and they hit nineteen

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Speaker 4: triples last night. Hey, fifty seven percent of the of

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Speaker 4: the faceoffs won.

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Speaker 2: By your favorite team.

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Speaker 4: You get a power play tally, your two big timers

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Speaker 4: both score, and oh wait, you hit the bleep out

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Speaker 4: of them, and you find your way limp into the

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Speaker 4: finish line of a shootout in which Connectne daggers you.

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Speaker 4: It's just if you look at the stat line, you're

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Speaker 4: shocked that you lost that game, just kind of disappointed.

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Speaker 4: But that's the kind of team at this spot of

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Speaker 4: the schedule that played out that way four.

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Speaker 2: Things and they'll feeling incredibly fast.

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Speaker 1: Of Course, the Dallas Stars won last night, so props

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Speaker 1: to Kevin gorg and shame on me for actually insinuating

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Speaker 1: a team that employs Connor McDavid leeon d residel and

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Speaker 1: Evan Bouchard can compete with anybody. Kg's like, good luck

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Speaker 1: with that, and he's right. I think the final was

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Speaker 1: seven to two Dallas, So if you're trying to get

844
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Speaker 1: home ice against the Stars, that was not a great development. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: the Flyers have beaten US six at the last seven

846
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: times swept US this year. Don't know what it is

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Speaker 1: with the Philly Flyers, but that happened. Thirdly, Heinsey started

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Speaker 1: nine to noon yesterday and I asked him about some

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Speaker 1: of the important facets of tonight's game.

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Speaker 2: Last night's game, and he with the team on.

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Speaker 1: A back to back, they were three and six on

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Speaker 1: back to backs and they had been beaten seventeen to

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Speaker 1: seven in their last three back to backs. He said,

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Speaker 1: take them out of the game early. You know they're

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Speaker 1: gonna they played last night, they're sharp. You got to

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Speaker 1: beat them up early and jump them early.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: We were down one zero at the end, of the

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Speaker 2: first period.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Heinzi the postgame press conference, for those who

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Speaker 1: saw it, it's as mad as ticked off as I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen John Hines in a press conference, and I

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Speaker 1: watched most of not all of them, even if I

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Speaker 1: don't see the game, and he was talking about that

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Speaker 1: was a mindset game and our mind wasn't set the

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Speaker 1: right way.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was. He was a mad individual in

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Speaker 2: that press conference.

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Speaker 4: To the Wolves, they play at the Bay. They're at

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Speaker 4: the Doves this evening. It's a nine pm tip off

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be on Prime. Wolves have lost

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Speaker 4: three in a row, and frankly against the Clippers that

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Speaker 4: looked ugly at times, but tonight against a non play well,

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Speaker 4: I think they're in the play in. I shouldn't speak

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Speaker 4: too illy of the Dubs. The fact is they need

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 5: PA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the goal the last three losses. Okay, Orlando, Orlando.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to break down the Orlando magic. We

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Speaker 1: talked about it early in the week. Better than a

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Speaker 1: lot of people think. The LA Lakers in the second

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Speaker 1: half went lights out. They played so good in the

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Speaker 1: second half, and the LA Clippers have given you problems

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Speaker 1: now this season more than one time. Yeah, this Golden

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Speaker 1: State Warriors team tonight without Steph Curry should be beat

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Speaker 1: by a team that has aspirations to get to the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference finals. So we'll see what happens tonight. We've

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Speaker 1: been blown out three consecutive times. There was a little

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Speaker 1: fight that broke out at the end of the LA

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Speaker 1: Clippers game. Jade McDaniels got tired of somebody jawn at him.

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Speaker 1: So I like, players are gathering at center court like

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Speaker 1: pist bump a good luck, good luck, good luck Jade

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Speaker 1: McDaniels and some ruber starting to fight. So what does

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Speaker 1: that mean Frustrations are boiling over?

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Speaker 2: Yes they are.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Sunday at noon, I think noon

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Speaker 1: or one something like that, you're at okac And if

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Speaker 1: you are vulnerable, great another Mattine game. If you are

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Speaker 1: vulnerable where they're okay on the road with it, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not. They beat Memphis and killed somebody else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if you're vulnerable and Jay Gilgas Alexander ched Holmgren

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Speaker 1: and then the Cats smell blood, they'll beat you by

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Speaker 1: fifty and they'll keep their best players in in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter to show you what they think of you.

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Speaker 2: These are tenuous times right now.

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Speaker 4: what was he reading Aristotle right now? Well, we're gonna

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