1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Just in case you missed it, it's the Top five 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: sports stagers of the day. Now it's time for Dan 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Barrero's Top five at five, brought to you by Gutter 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Helmet of Minnesota, never clean your gutters again. Learn more 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: at gutter Helmet mn dot com. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: All right, as I mentioned, Guardzi is in Arizona tracking 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: the Golden Gophers. I can't remember the name of the 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: ball they're in, but they are in one of those 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: meaningless bulls, and so I don't even know if he's 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: on the rest of the week or not. I'm out 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: after today, but our good friend Sam is here to 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 2: give us a little late to Top five at five 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: because liber obviously always goes to about five point fifteen 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: what we used to call back in the day, the 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: five twenty sports Fix. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: Where would you like to begin. 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: Well, the Gophers are playing in the Rate Bowl for 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 4: you Guaranteed Rate Bowl against the New Mexico Lobos. 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: I think I kind of knew that, but I'm glad 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: you refreshed my memory. I'm not sure I did, that's 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: for sure. 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: Let's start with the Timberwolves, who had a pretty busy weekend. 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 4: On Friday night, they took down the defending champs they 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder one twelve to one oh seven, with 26 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: an eight to er run to end the game, and 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: was unbelievable at the end of that game, by. 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: The way, yes he was. 29 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 4: Then last night the Wolves beat the Giannis less Milwaukee 30 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: Bucks one o three to one hundred. The Wolves get 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: a day off today before hosting the defending NBA Cup champions, 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: the New York Knicks tomorrow night at the Target Center. 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: The Return of a Cat. 34 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, the Knicks are playing very well, although I think 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: they've had a relatively generous schedule, kind of like the Wolves. 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: And again, the Friday night game, which we talked a 37 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: little bit about on sermons. 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: Was impressive. 39 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: Needed we had all taught it certainly discussed the fact 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: that the Wolves had not The record was solid, but 41 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: it just had not feel like we had many of 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: those weighty victories that feel like there are more than 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: one victory in the regular season. And it turned out 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: to be a fit game. After Finchy lost his mind, 45 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: did the officiating change because of him? 46 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 47 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: I guess it's possible. If anybody listens to this show knows. 48 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: I kind of weary over officiating obsession. And we didn't 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: get to this part of it with Johnny, but in 50 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: his story he laid out very nicely that the numbers, 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: the actual facts don't even fit the conspiracy theory that 52 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: many Wolves fans feel about Oklahoma City. 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: That not only in that game. 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: If you want to say, well that game is the 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: free throw disparity in the favor of the Wolves was 56 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: because Finchy lost his mind. Okay, you want to believe that, 57 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: go ahead, But the fact of the matter is, if you 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: look up the numbers, the Wolves on an average basis 59 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: get to the free throw line far more often than 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, despite the free throw merchant that they have 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: the SGA. 62 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: So I weary of it. 63 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: I liked that it was a competitive game, and and 64 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, to your point down the stretch Edwards was terrific. 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: And you know, two of the plays obviously were made 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: on the other end of the court. The shot he 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: made is a shot he can make. It's clutch when 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: you make it. I don't love the shot, to be 69 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: honest with you. I'd prefer a better shot. But he 70 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: nailed it. And then he had a block and obviously 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: a steal and so a reminder that it is best. 72 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: What Edwards represents is a terrific two way player, and 73 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: he got that done. I mentioned yesterday though, it's funny 74 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: on how it works, like if we play a good 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: team the night after we've played somebody else and we 76 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: don't play particularly well, we're immediately told it's a schedule 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: loss anywhen, and it's not really the wolf's fault. But 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: when the roles are reversed and we seem to gain 79 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: from the other team being in that position, the subject 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: never even comes up. 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: And I guess that's just how the way it works. 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: That's just human nature. 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: Chris Finch find thirty five thousand dollars, by the way 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: for that Jackson. 85 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: By the way. 86 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: On that there's I feel like there's almost an insurrection 87 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: taking place around the league. Several other coaches are losing 88 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: their minds lately about officiating. So I don't know if 89 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: it's just viral or if there's something fundamentally concerning about 90 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: officiating that a number of these number of coaches are mentioning. 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, is it consistency, Is it first half 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: seems to be officiated different than the second, that the 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: rules seemed to. 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Change Lakers guy. Just last night. 95 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: It was more on consistency about what can be challenged 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: and what can't be challenged. So I don't know what 97 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: they're going to do in the NBA league offices, but 98 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: right now the officials are a little bit under siege. 99 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: Moving from Minneapolis to Saint Paul, the Wild had their 100 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: seven game win streak snapped at the hands of the 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: first place Colorado Avalanche, losing five to one. It's their 102 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: first loss since December sixth. Ryan Hartman scored the only goal, 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: which came in the third period. Whilstead had thirty seven 104 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: saves gave up four, there was one empty net and 105 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: the Wild will look to bounce back tomorrow night as 106 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: they host the National Predators at Grank Sino Arena. 107 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: It was disappointing, uh, you know, obviously because the build 108 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: up had been it was large. Okay, it's this is 109 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: a new and improved Wild and here you have the 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: ultimate challenge and you get it at home, and you're 111 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: feeling really good about your your your club, and you 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: can look at it two ways. You can look at 113 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: it as wow, well, yeah they've made a nice jump, 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: but they still have to make another jump to match 115 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: what the lanch represent and that might end up being 116 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: the case, because the Colorado Avalanche record at this point 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: is uh is borderline of serd On the other hand, 118 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: I'd say that you're not here sooner or later you're 119 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: going to lose. You probably don't. You probably want to 120 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: lose a little bit more competitively than they did. And 121 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: I think we were down. I think we cut it 122 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: till two. I think we were down three to zero. 123 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: Then it was three to one, and that was the 124 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: extent of it, and that we had actually good pressure. 125 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: I watched that section of the game down three to one, 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: we had scoring opportunities to cut the goal to one 127 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: or not unable to do it. They opened it up 128 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: more So I wouldn't if I'm a hockey fan, I 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't lose my mind over that lost because, as I said, 130 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: we were all kind of kidding about it. They weren't 131 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: going to go the rest of the season undefeated. On 132 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: the other hand, it tells you that as good as 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: they've been, it almost feels like the. 134 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: Colorado Avalanche, at least right now. 135 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: On another plateau, the sports world on Friday night was 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: not focused on Minneapolis. It was focused on Miami. Probably 137 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: the most talked about, most hyped or maybe overhyped event 138 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: in recent memory, took place in Miami, Florida, on Friday night, 139 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: as Jake Paul faced Anthony Joshua. Joshua knocked out Paul 140 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: in the sixth round, broke his jaw. The estimates are 141 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: just that estimates, but they're expecting that each fighter made 142 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 4: around ninety two million dollars. 143 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 3: Did you watch any of that? Are you being serious? 144 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: Ninety two million? 145 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: I mean Paul's expected to take home a little bit 147 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: more because he owns the promotion, but the estimates are 148 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 4: saying that it was a split purse of one hundred 149 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: and eighty four million dollars. 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't be surprised with all the money 151 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: that's out there. 152 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: I did not watch any of it, did you I did? 153 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: I was how about this? 154 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 4: Instead of channel surfing, I was app surfing between that's 155 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: what the Wolves game and Netflix watching the fight. 156 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do. 157 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Now, Well, I've complained about the fact that if I'm 158 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: watching one thing on direct TV and another thing on 159 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: the app. The old days of going back and forth 160 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: between the two a lot more frustrating now because that 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: it's not just pushing one button and you gotta go back. 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: I'm hoping that will be resolved somewhere down the road. 163 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: But I didn't get to see. 164 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: Any of it, I'm afraid. 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you didn't miss a whole lot. The 166 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: end was worth the weight, but it shouldn't have gone 167 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: six rounds. I was being stubborn because I was watching 168 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: the Wolves game. That's where my interest was. But you know, 169 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: it's like you can't take your eyes off. 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh it's yeah, it's it is just like watching train 171 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: wrecks from time to time, that's for sure. 172 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: Speaking of Miami, though, let's talk about some college football playoffs. 173 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: The second round is set. 174 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: The Miami Hurricanes are going to play the Ohio State Buckeyes. 175 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: We have Georgia versus Old Miss Oregon versus Texas, and 176 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl will be Alabama versus Indians. 177 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: My Hoosiers. Yeah, I don't know what to think. 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: I was asking my buddy Bozic, who is the gonna 179 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: be the better opponent or the easier opponent for the Hoosiers, 180 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: Oklahoma or Alabama. They look dead. And I did watch 181 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: a decent amount of that game. They obviously look dead. 182 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: And buried was they down seventeen to nothing early and 183 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: then when the thing turned, it absolutely really really turned. 184 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know what to think. 185 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: I think there's probably despite the season Indiana has had, 186 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: there's still gonna be a little bit of it. Let's 187 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: prove it to us in the postseason. And now it 188 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: gets funky because you know, the SEC snobs are everywhere. 189 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: So if Alabama takes care of business against Indiana the 190 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: rose Ball, it's going to get ugly, I think for 191 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: the Big Ten and for the Hoosiers. 192 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: So we'll see how that goes. 193 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: Although I think I honestly believe Indiana has a pretty 194 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: good chance to go a distance, and their quarterback at 195 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: this level I love. At the next level, I think 196 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: he's going to be really good too. Mendoza yes. 197 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 4: And then lastly, just looking around the NFL, we already 198 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: talked about the Bears. In the Packers game, the Bears 199 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 4: win in overtime, lines lose on an offensive pass interference 200 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: call to end the game. There was obviously the suspension 201 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: that came down. But elsewhere around the NFL, the Jaggs 202 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: did beat to the number one seed Broncos, although Denver 203 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: sill Is in that top spot. Pat's beat the ravens 204 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 4: lamar Jackson left with a back injury. Chargers eliminated the Cowboys. 205 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: The Panthers beat the Bucks, so they are first in 206 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: the NFC South. They played the Bucks one more time 207 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: the last week of the season, and then lastly the 208 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 4: Eagles did clinch by beating the Commanders on her. 209 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I foolishly had Adam Field back with Carolina. Well, 210 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: obviously that's where he'd been before he joined the Vikings, 211 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: and now he is with Pittsburgh. 212 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: Over the Pittsburgh story. Pretty good again. 213 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: They took care of business that controversial finish against Detroit, 214 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: although I think that both those really There were two 215 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: offensive pass interference calls that worked against Detroit on that 216 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: last drive, and I thought they were both legitimate calls. 217 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: I thought they were both very good calls. 218 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: I thought Rogers looked better than I'd seen him in 219 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: a while getting the ball out. Jacksonville might be the 220 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: the best team that nobody really pays much attention to 221 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: or knows about, right despite the what their their record is, 222 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: their ascension and we spent a lot of time on 223 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: the Bears Packers. We did have a cold call earlier 224 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 2: with Carl Gerbschmidt that could be podcastable later. It was 225 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: one of those disarming Carl calls, where as soon as 226 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: he realized it was us, he started blubbering. He started 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: crying and going back into his childhood for some story 228 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: worries that I didn't quite understand. But I don't trust 229 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: him when he does that, because I think that's him 230 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 2: trying to elicit sympathy and it takes the all the 231 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: hatred away that a lot of Vikings fans have for 232 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: him the way even better. That's very true. That's fine, right, 233 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: that's fine, good job, excellent job. Let's stay on schedule. 234 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: We'll pause a lot of good Vikings talking points we 235 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: have yet to explore, and a number of texts will 236 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: continue in that vein here on a. 237 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: Monday, on a bumper to bumper here on the fan. 238 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: We're getting a correction another uh that is targeted at me, 239 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: and I think he's a couple of these folks are correct. 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: I had when we had Gerby on, when we called 241 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: cold called Gerby earlier in the show and left him blubbering. 242 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: I noted that the last time I remember him crying 243 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: quite that uncontrollably was after the Packers lost to Michael 244 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: Vick in a home playoff game at Lambeau and a 245 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: couple of people said, not so fast, my friend. That 246 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: time he called and left a voicemail for I think 247 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: it would have been mister Fun. Back then was January 248 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: of two thousand and eight, when the Packers were upset 249 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: in minus twenty win show by Eli Manning and the Giants. 250 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: He called left the crying message for producer Gary, who 251 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: was mister Fun Vintage Gerby. That is from Tom Columbia Heights. 252 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: I think he's right, And a couple other people had 253 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: said the same thing, so I'll offer that to sort 254 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: of correct the record. Let me get to another Vikings 255 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: talking point. I call this one the. 256 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: Let's see number one two three the JJ throw of 257 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: the game. 258 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 6: Let's listen JJ McCarthy out of the shotgun on third down. 259 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 6: Here's a Giants blitz. McCarthy's straight drop crust of the 260 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 6: end zone, cross to Addison and complete. He could not 261 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 6: bring it in. The pass looked to be a good pass. 262 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 6: Jordan twisted himself around a little bit and the ball 263 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 6: hit him on the three, but he couldn't bring it in. 264 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: So here comes will record. 265 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he had an opportunity to kind of bend that 266 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 7: back justin mccor JJ McCarthy, excuse me, how to throw 267 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 7: that football a little bit early, but put it in 268 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 7: a really nice spot. So I'm actually kind of surprised 269 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 7: that he did not come up with it, just a 270 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 7: beautifully thrown ball. Looked like I hit him rund the 271 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 7: bread basket there, Paul ball. 272 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with both of them on that one. That's 273 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: the one where I can, I will easily, without any 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: I guess, question or hesitation, defend the QB The ball 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: was slightly behind the receiver, but it was almost necessary 276 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: to do it, and that one was in both of 277 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: his hands, in his I think basically in his bread basket, 278 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: and somehow in twisting he could not hold on to it. 279 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: That I put on the ninety five percent on the receiver, 280 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: especially when your factor in that JJ kind of had 281 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: to get rid of the ball, perhaps a little bit 282 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: earlier than he wanted to. That pass is not to 283 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: be confused with what I call the Max Brosmer pass 284 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: of the game. 285 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 6: Max Brosmer the vikings four of eight on third down, 286 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: looking at a third and seventeen, He'll throw left to Jefferson, 287 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 6: caught it the forty six. Yes, that's a cold blood 288 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: of connection, right Hash left sideline twenty two yards Brosmer 289 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 6: to Justin Jefferson and a first down. 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 7: What an absolute beauty of a catch by Justin Jefferson. 291 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: Ball that was. 292 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 7: That's as good as you'll see out of that young man. 293 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Holy cow, he's right about that. But that's a big 294 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: time throw. I think that's better, better throw than any 295 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: we had from a JJ McCarthy yesterday's I'll be honest, 296 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: we've had a lot of fun with the Brozemer stuff. 297 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: That's the kind of throw where you go, huh, he 298 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: can make that throw? 299 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 6: Uh? 300 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: On third and what was it? I think seventeen? Now, 301 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: great response. You got to have a big time receiver 302 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: who can come down with the ball, keep his feet 303 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: and bounds. But that's the kind of throw that not 304 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: everybody can make that. I think if you're a scout, 305 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: if you're a general manager, if you're coach, you're going 306 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: somewhere down the road, maybe we can play with that 307 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: a little bit. That was extremely well done, and I 308 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: believe that was on the game winning field goal drive 309 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: that kept it alive early. If I'm not mistaken the 310 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: drive that ultimately, I honestly believe for a while I 311 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: thought the Giants were going to be perfectly content if 312 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: the Vikings had run out the clock that the rest 313 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: it just ended the game. They I don't think they 314 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: had any desire to be back on offense none whatsoever. 315 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: They did have one drop, the only good pass play 316 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: they had. 317 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: I remember who the receiver was who dropped it. 318 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: They had one drop as well, and it stood out 319 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: just because they had so few pass plays that even 320 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: looked like pass plays. 321 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: Yes, I think Jackson that only had thirteen attempts the 322 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: whole game. 323 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a very curious state of affairs. I 324 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: get it, he's got concussion stuff, but. 325 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: It's it really is. 326 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: It's like, if if you're gonna tighten it up that much, 327 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: then you do ask yourself, why are you playing him? 328 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean play I know you don't want to play 329 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, I guess anymore, But why are you playing 330 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: him if he's, if you believe him to be at 331 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: this point, that limited unless it is an attempt to 332 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: tank responsibly as well, which might have might have something 333 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: to do with it. We spent a lot of time 334 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: on sermons, probably too much time for Bears haters on 335 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: Bears packers, because as I said then, regardless of what 336 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: team was involved on either end of that, that's that 337 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: was the story of the weekend. That game, that comeback 338 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: National TV game was astonishing. It was stunning in its 339 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: scope and in its totality, and the Bears down sixteen 340 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: to six with like two minutes to go, end up 341 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: scoring the last sixteen points of the game and win 342 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: in ot twenty two to sixteen. Now, you were not 343 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: at the game, but you were in the Windy City. 344 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: Was that just coincidence or what? What brought you to 345 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: the Chicago? 346 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? I was down there for a little bit of 347 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: work stuff, a little bit of family stuff. But yeah, 348 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: So actually I was down at the Field Museum on 349 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: Saturday morning, early afternoon, so they were starting to kind 350 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: of set up Soldier Field because the Field Museum is 351 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: right next door to the field it is, and it 352 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: was just it was already chaotic right away in the morning. 353 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: I don't even want to talk about how much I 354 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 4: paid for parking when I got down there, but it 355 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: was it was definitely pandemonium. You could you could feel 356 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: that energy kind of like what it was here when 357 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: the Vikings played the Lions. I mean that was a 358 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: road game last year, but there was there was a 359 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of energy in downtown Chicago, and so. 360 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we've talked about this here. I mean, 361 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: this is in the in the time, in the forty 362 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: years I've been here, it's always been a Vikings town. Now, 363 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: obviously there are exceptions. If the Twins are making a 364 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: run for the World Series, that changes for that period 365 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: of time, but it's a Vikings town. The Vikings are 366 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: on a plateau all their own, even if they're not 367 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: doing particularly well. But but when the engine's running, then 368 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: that's all anybody wants to talk about. That's where all 369 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: the energy comes from from a sports standpoint, And it's 370 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 2: the same in Chicago times ten. Probably it's it's a 371 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: Bears town. The Cubs finally had their their moment. Obviously, 372 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: the Bulls when Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan turned it 373 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: into a Bulls or as close as you could get 374 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: to that. But the Bears are on another level, just 375 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: as in Chicago, just as the Vikings on another level. 376 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: Here Field Museum is not a bad spot. Yeah, it 377 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: was great, one of those places that you could spend 378 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: ten days and you're still not going to get to everything. 379 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because it was my first 380 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: time going there. Yeah, I was there for I think 381 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: six hours and we didn't even get to see everything. 382 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it. It's so it's so immersive and 383 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: just huge. 384 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, and I can still remember the first field 385 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: trip we took to it and it was like then, 386 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: you know, everything's much bigger. Everything feels bigger because you're smaller, 387 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: and it's just a marvel. I mean, it's just such 388 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: an incredible, incredible place, and there I think it's still open. 389 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 2: Further south, there's the Museum of Science and Industry, which 390 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: I haven't been to in quite a while, but the 391 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: Field Museum was always the one that it just it 392 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: just felt like there was there was a great sense 393 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: of history in that place, for sure. We were talking 394 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: earlier about the Giants approach to offense. We call this 395 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: Vikings talking point simply that the Giants bench Russell Wilson 396 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: for this guy. 397 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 6: Jackson takes the snap, he gets away from the pressure, but. 398 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: Then Jaalen Rudman sacks. 399 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: Him at the fifteen yard line. Dart on fourth down, back. 400 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: To pass, sack and Drew. 401 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 6: Kick gold and the Vikings have turned over the New 402 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: York Giants on downs, Shotgun throws a pass to the left, 403 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 6: intercepted up the fingertips of tight end Theo Johnson Byron 404 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: Movie Junior Dart on a very deep drop about to 405 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 6: be sacked, and he is sacked for a fourth time today. 406 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much how it went. 407 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: And I guess you could say that's why they didn't 408 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: want to ever have him throw all that much. I 409 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: think one of those was they early decided to ignore 410 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: the field goal. I'm assuming on the basis of what 411 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: do they have to lose? I mean, there really wasn't 412 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: anything at stake, and they were unable to convert. 413 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 3: But I have. 414 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: Rarely seen a game in which one of the teams 415 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: seemed less interested in attacking offensively in any way, shape 416 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: or form. And again, I you know, I understand that 417 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: they they're worried about the QB's health, They're don't they 418 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: don't feel very good about their their their passing game. Uh, 419 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: but at some point you do sort of ask, well, 420 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: why why did you I don't know if it's ever 421 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: happened that an NFL team has forfeited a game, But 422 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: are you almost better off forfeiting the game? 423 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: Because that that's how it felt. 424 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 2: It felt like, well, we're not we're not even you know, 425 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: we know we're not a very good team. But even 426 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: if you're not a very good team, you're at home, 427 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: and aren't you supposed to at least try to win 428 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: the game, unless again, you've been ordered to uh to 429 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: tank responsibly. 430 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 431 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: By the way, the money I game. Look who's on 432 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: the screen right now, it's our guy cam buying them. 433 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: Former Bumper to Bumper regular is being interviewed pregame. You 434 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: know they have these little with it in a while 435 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: pregame interviews on ESPN on Monday Night Countdown. 436 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: And that's what's going on right now, our guy cam 437 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 3: buying them. 438 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: Who has three three interceptions this season for the Colts. 439 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm assuming Philip Rivers is starting again, right he is? Yeah, 440 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: so that's the angle tonight. I didn't get to see 441 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: much of his work last week. I think they lost 442 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: ended up losing a close game, but lost of the Seahawks. 443 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 3: That's what it was. 444 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think and I think the Seahawks had 445 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: to score late to get the victory for them. So yeah, 446 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm curious to see how he looked. I mean, 447 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 2: I think he was not great in the last game, 448 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: but he didn't look inapt. He didn't look like he 449 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't be out there. So and the Colts are very desperate, 450 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: obviously for for a victory victory as well. I'm assuming 451 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: that's on the fan tonight right when football uh gotta 452 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: be I would think. So, I don't think we have 453 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: any have any wild and we have any Wolves, I 454 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: don't believe. 455 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me double check, double checks, Yeah, double check. 456 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: They're they're taking on for the record the brock Purty 457 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: and the San Francisco forty nine ers as well. The 458 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: worst game in NFL history may be played next weekend 459 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: Giants Raiders. 460 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 3: Is that a matchup? My god, that could be very 461 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: very bad. 462 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: Lots of discussion around the RODA corul on who gets 463 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: that Vikings win JJ or Max? 464 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: What's say you? 465 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: It's probably a distinction not worth spending all that much 466 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: time on. But he did lead them on the the 467 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: alt what was ultimately the game winning drive, I believe, 468 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: so that would be Max, including that beautiful out pattern. Well, 469 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: you got to have some zip on the ball on 470 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: third and seventeen. That was a that was a very pretty, 471 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: very very pretty play. Let me get to a couple 472 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: of other well, actually, you know, I'll say the rest 473 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: of the talking points. I think we have like two left, 474 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: and let me get to a couple more texts as well. 475 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because somebody had asked any interest in to 476 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: Night's Tilt and Indie. Yeah, because mainly because of the 477 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: quarterback thing. That's that is the main thing for me, 478 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: and you know, the forty nine ers backup is we've 479 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: talked about the vikings. I believe are should be obligated 480 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: to add a veteran quarterback to the competition before next season. 481 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: I think whatever plans they had of anointing JJ should 482 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: be out the window, not necessarily because of his in 483 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, his sort of spotty second season been a 484 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: little better lately, but has been overall statistically still pretty bad. 485 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: Not because of that, but because of availability. I still 486 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: believe you can't. You're not doing your due diligence as 487 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: an organization. You're not really protecting the assets you do have. 488 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: If you are simply saying we're going to close our 489 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: eyes roll the dice and hope that JJ McCarthy not 490 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 2: only can continue to improve, but to stay on the field. 491 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: I don't think you can do it for second straight year. 492 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: The question again is who do you get, what's the price? 493 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: How much does that affect you contractually? All those things 494 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: are fair points, but I believe that you're letting your 495 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: own organization down if you do not add a veteran 496 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: quarterback who can who is given an honest opportunity. I 497 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: might add to win the job. I don't mean he 498 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: has to win. It doesn't mean he's going to win it. 499 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: But I think that's if nothing else, if we've learned 500 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: nothing else about McCarthy, even if you're a mcbowbo and 501 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: love them, what's undeniable and inescapable right now is he 502 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: has not been able to stay on the field. 503 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: So you got to head your bet. 504 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: You have to give yourself any kind of insurance that 505 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: is more than just the average backup quarterback, but a 506 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: quarterback that you at least envision as being a starter 507 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: and being a guy that the quarterback whisperer can work with. Again, 508 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: and I know the whole bit of the whole point 509 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: of drafting McCarthy was to get out of that miras, 510 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: to get off of that hamster wheel where we're constantly 511 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: just trying to bring in veterans and patch it together 512 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: and keep it together. The whole idea was, here's our 513 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. We're going to be done with this problem 514 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: for the next ten years, the way they are able 515 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: to do a generation after generation, for example in Green Bay. 516 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: That makes sense, and that ultimately still might take place. 517 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: But if you, as I said, miss as many as 518 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: much time as he has missed over the course of 519 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: the first two seasons in the league, I. 520 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: Just don't know. I don't know how you can you 521 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: can stay with it? Now? 522 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: He played half of the game yesterday, So he played 523 00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: in or started in nine games. 524 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: So far over two seasons. 525 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: So that's going to be if he didn't play again 526 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: this season, out of thirty four possible regular season games 527 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: he played, he would have played in nine of them. 528 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: I can even do that math. 529 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: I think that's twenty five that he will have missed, 530 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: and that's not a good percentage, that's not a workable percentage, 531 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: and that, to me is what opens the door to 532 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: thinking of this philosophically differently than they might have when 533 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: they thought, we don't really want any kind of competition. 534 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: We think this is the guy. 535 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll play the rest of the season without missing 536 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: the rest of his career, without missing another game. That happens, 537 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: it can change, but it's not a good look right now. 538 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: Four different injuries over that period of time. That's just 539 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: simply not workable. Top of the hour, break a couple 540 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: more Vikings talking points to get to. We will be 541 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: going the distance till six thirty right here on a 542 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: ball met Monday afternoon and evening here in the field. 543 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: We will have Niners Colts on our flagship FM one 544 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: point through the fan after as usual a day after 545 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: Vikings games, Viking rewind final half hour of the Bumper 546 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: Bumper program for today bratch On Bryant KFN text line 547 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: is open at six for six eight six. 548 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot about injuries. 549 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't believe there's any evidence that JJ McCarthy was 550 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: injured on this play, but this was the play that 551 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: ended his afternoon and quite possibly ended his season for 552 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. 553 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 6: As Ben Leeber on the sideline mentioned only touched down 554 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 6: in the game, JJ McCarthy is fourth rushing touchdown and 555 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 6: he goes back to. 556 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: Packlick out, he's buried by Brian Burns. 557 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 6: And it's picked up by a giant for a defensive touchdown. 558 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 6: Tyler Nuban, the former go fer, scores against the Minnesota 559 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 6: Vikings on a Brian Burns sack and it's thirteen nine 560 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: Vikings Brian Burns. 561 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: Holy cow, there it is. Yeah. 562 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: It is one of those weird ended halves things where 563 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: you go, what do we do? How aggressive do we 564 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: want to be? And Koc being Koc's usually going to 565 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: be pretty aggressive. But on the other hand, the feeling was, well, 566 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: we're in the early part of the JJ McCarthy awakening, 567 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: so let's not push our luck too much. So it 568 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: was kind of an in between her Leeber thought that 569 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: he was already losing control of the ball before he 570 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: got hit. He got hit hard, and originally I think 571 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: there was some feeling, well, did he get hurt or 572 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: jarred or even concust on that play because it was 573 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: a very hard hit. It turns out it was something 574 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: hand related. We still don't have specifics on it. No 575 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: update today on his availability, but you saw many of 576 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: you saw the sideline shot where he was being examined 577 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: by either a doctor or a trainer, and almost seemed 578 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: to lose his mind when any pressure was put on 579 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: somewhere on that hand, whether it's the wrist or a finger. 580 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: I think it might have been a finger. Whatever might 581 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: have been the old hit that earlier hit his finger 582 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: on the helmet and a follow through on a pass attempt, 583 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: but that falls under the classification of the kind of 584 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: play at the end of the half where you're kind 585 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: of in control of things that just can't happen. There 586 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: has to be either better recognition or a better ability 587 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: to hang on to the ball, whatever the case may be. 588 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: I mean that to me, that felt like the freest 589 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: seven points that a team one team could possibly give 590 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: the other. And by the way, that's the the better 591 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: team giving to the inferior team. Now, ultimately it didn't 592 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: matter because they are, after all, the giants, but it 593 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: was not a very helpful play. Then he has trots 594 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: out or who actually walks early to the to the 595 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: locker room, the visiting locker room, and at that point 596 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: you could pretty much tell there was a good chance 597 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: that it was going to be a Brozemer second half 598 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: for your favorite football team. Speaking of injuries, and we 599 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: did talk about this with Lieber. This one, in some 600 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: ways maybe is being underrated and has a great deal. 601 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: Of significance because it goes. 602 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: Back to really one of the you know, offseason designs 603 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: of this team was we're going to go out and 604 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: spend some money on some veteran players and we're going 605 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: to remake this offensive line pretty much on the fly, 606 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: and that included the signing of center Ryan Kelly, and. 607 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 7: We got a Viking offensive alignment. Now it looks like 608 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 7: Ryan Kelly who's slow to get up, but I think 609 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 7: it was Drew Philps. He's going to draw this penalty 610 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 7: because it was thrown way before Aaron Jones. Hopefully the 611 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 7: Vikings will get another three fifteen yards on this. But yeah, 612 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 7: Ryan Kelly being down, it's not good. 613 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's had myriad concussions during his career, cost him 614 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 5: some games this year due to concussion related symptoms. You 615 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 5: got Tyler Williams, who runs the sports performance and training department, 616 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 5: talking to a side judge saying we need a little 617 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 5: more time. Aaron Jones and Drew Phillips still jawing at 618 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: each other from AFAR and Michael Jurgens is warming up 619 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: to fill in for Ryan Kelly, who still lay. 620 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: On his back. 621 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, none of that is good, and it's difficult to 622 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 2: believe that Ryan Kelly's career is going to go beyond 623 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: this season and probably shut down we all would assume 624 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. But when you have 625 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: the concussion history he does, Ultimately it's the player's choice. 626 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: Think it's difficult for. 627 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: Me to believe that he is not going to choose 628 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: discretion at some point being the better. 629 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: Form of valor. And we did. 630 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: You know, the one thing that was discussed at the 631 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: time that the that this team made those offseason moves 632 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 2: and got very aggressive with, in this case two members 633 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: of the Indianapolis Colts, was whether you're running the risk 634 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: of adding players who are, shall we say, not done 635 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 2: but towards the back end a decent amount of mileage. Now, 636 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how much information we were made aware 637 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: of regarding his concussion history, but in general, I think 638 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: there was some concern about that part of it, and 639 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: I think we've seen now the extent of why there 640 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: may have been a bit of a gamble. Even as 641 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: ambitious as those moves were, We're getting some veteran offensive 642 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 2: linemen who know what the hell they're doing with some 643 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: beef to them and some size to them. But the 644 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: question was always going to be at what expense? 645 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Right at? 646 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 2: At is the money going to be worth it? Are 647 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: you getting players that you're going to be able to 648 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: hold on to for a you know, an extended period 649 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: of time. That's also the question, and his case, it 650 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: is very difficult to see a scenario where you're going 651 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: to be able to continue to count on him at all, 652 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: And so then you're back to, well, do you have 653 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 2: to go some other direction? 654 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: Maybe what other direction would that be? 655 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it's hard to believe that it 656 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: would not be the end of the road for an 657 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: individual who's had as many concussions as he has had. 658 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: And it's too bad because he's obviously he's been a 659 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: good to a very good player. A couple of texts 660 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: here to wrap up this segment of the program. Injuries 661 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: to players as Viking squareterbacks last three seasons, Cousins, Mullins, 662 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Haul Dobbs, Darnald, although he didn't miss any, Wentz McCarthy. 663 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not a jmac problem but a Vikings O 664 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: line problem. Though it was solved this year, but they 665 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: haven't been available themselves. 666 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: O L still a big problem. 667 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: Solve that and maybe jjc's upright for more than three 668 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: four games in a row. It's part of it. I 669 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 2: just don't think it's all of it. I think that's 670 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: too easy. I think we've had I think research indicated 671 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: that some of the sacks were on the quarterbacks themselves, 672 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: especially in the case of McCarthy holding onto the ball 673 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: too long. So I again, could the line be more consistent? 674 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: Could it? Could it stay? Could be healthier? Yes? 675 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: Might you make better decisions in terms of players who 676 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 2: give you a better chance to have better health? 677 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 3: Yes? Some of that's bad luck as as well. Dan, 678 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 3: this is the. 679 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: Second time KFC has gotten a key player injured by 680 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: being cute for a halftime life season was running a 681 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: play right where the half against the Rams, and that 682 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: played Derris towards Aco just take a knee. Well, yeah, 683 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: I get that, But then a lot of times you 684 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: have people who say that now, but also the same 685 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: ones who say, well, you're not being aggressive enough. You 686 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: know that can play both ways. I'm not all that 687 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: offended by it. If you're Let's remember something at the 688 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: point where McCarthy, as far as we know, is still healthy. 689 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: You're still trying to use these games to get him 690 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 2: the reps in various situations and circumstances. 691 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: In one of those would be all right. 692 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 2: We were kind of wanting to play it halfway here 693 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: at the end of the half. That means we're going 694 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: to try to make a couple of plays and if 695 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: we can get something going, we're gonna keep going. If 696 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: we can't, then we probably will sit on the ball. Now, 697 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: the unknown is that this is where it's goofy to 698 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: me on communication. So if he didn't get hurt on 699 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,240 Speaker 2: the sack the strip sack, then presumably he had something 700 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: going on with his hand previous to that. Isn't that 701 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: something that might then impact how aggressive the head coach is. 702 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: That's to me where there's there's more to this story 703 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: that I'd like to get told than I hope it 704 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: will be will be told. That is the one area 705 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: where information probably should dictate a more conservative approach. And hey, 706 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: we're they're not going to be able to score, so 707 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: we're just going to get the hell out of dodge 708 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: for the For the half, I got a quarterback whose 709 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 2: right hand is a little bit funky and a little 710 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: bit iffy on the basis of whatever had taken place sooner. 711 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm hoping the Jackals will able to 712 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: garner more information on, perhaps as soon as tomorrow. 713 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 3: I forget. 714 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: This is a big Christmas week for your favorite football team. 715 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: They will take on the Lions on Thursday, Christmas Day. 716 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: I think that's the Is that the second game on? 717 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 2: I think I think it's the second game of the three? 718 00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: Correct? Is a three? 719 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 6: Yes? 720 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the middle one. 721 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 4: Did you see the halftime announcement? 722 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: By the way, I did? I did. I can't wait, 723 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: it's it's I was. I asked this earlier. I mean 724 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 3: we bought. I mean, maybe we don't. 725 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: Even need to play the game, you know, because there's 726 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: not as much a stake for the Vikings and not 727 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: that much for the Lions. So maybe we just have 728 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: a concert, don't even worry about playing. You know, it's 729 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: a possibility, I'll you. Well, my my fantasy, what I've 730 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 2: what I've clamored for is I want a third quarter 731 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: with Snoop in the cafe and press box or the 732 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: kfan booth in the press box, working the game with. 733 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 3: Pa and versage that would be that would be outstanding, 734 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: wouldn't it. It'd be very good. 735 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: All right, one last break and we'll come back. Wrap 736 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: things up, remind you what you might have missed and 737 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: what's coming up the rest. 738 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: Of the week. It's the bumper to bumper show. Wrap well. 739 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 2: I want to thank our outstanding array of guests today 740 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: that included John Athletic at four two and Ben Leeber 741 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: joined a four forty seven Vikings talking points a big 742 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 2: part of the conversation today as well. We were not 743 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: graced by a current member of the Vikings. Some weeks 744 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: we've been able to have a Vikings guest, even after 745 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: Adam Thielen decided that it was time for him to 746 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: go elsewhere. A short week this week, so no guest there. 747 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: I also want to thank Sam Byrd kind enough to 748 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: help us today with guards the already landing I think 749 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: in Arizona. Blake Moore, I'm assuming he's on vacation somewhere. 750 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 2: It's a holiday season, so I appreciate your help today 751 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 2: as well, sir. 752 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 3: It was fun. Thank you, Dan. 753 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a pleasure. I'm pretty sure, by the way, 754 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 4: you and I are the only two people in this 755 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 4: whole building. 756 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 2: That's about You're about right. I think that's very, very true. 757 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 2: Everything's kind of been shut down. Altho it feels even 758 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: sometimes like regular weeks, it can be a little bit 759 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: like a ghost town as well. A couple of people 760 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: had said, you know, you're talking about the availability issue 761 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: for McCarthy, why aren't you bringing this up with Joe Burrow, 762 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 2: a guy that we've talked about earlier, that if you 763 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: could get a hold of him, you'd have to at 764 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: least entertain the possibility he never plays either. Well, it's 765 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: there's a couple of differences here, like, for example, this 766 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: year he's missed a bunch. I think Burrow played in 767 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: six games this year and he's done I think, or 768 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: close to it. Last year he played in seventeen. The 769 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: year before that he played in ten. The two years 770 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: before that he played sixteen apiece, and that was in 771 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: the sixteen game seasons. If I'm not mistaken, So I 772 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't go too much on just what's happened this season 773 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: on Joe Burrow. Also, the difference would be he's Joe Burrow, 774 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: and to that extent, you're gonna give him a little bit. 775 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 2: He's got a little bit more equity than JJ McCarthy 776 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: at this level, and so to that extent, you're gonna 777 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 2: maybe be more willing to pray and hope that that, 778 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: for example, this year was an anomaly because he's so 779 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: damned effective as a passer and he's so good. That's 780 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: part of the sticky wicket with McCarthy. It's, well, I 781 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: don't care how tough it is. He's so damned good 782 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: at what he does, or has already shown how good 783 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: he can be. We got to hang with it, man, 784 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 2: We got to hang with it. He hadn't been good 785 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: enough in this short amount of time we've had a 786 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: chance to see him. And what the better part of 787 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: nine games he's he's played. He played better the last several, 788 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: although again I thought this last game was just okay 789 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 2: compared to the previous two. 790 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 3: But you got a factor in. 791 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: You gotta look, you gotta have your your your your 792 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 2: purple colored lenses out of your eyeballs a little bit 793 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: and just say, well, given him the extra mile or 794 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: going the extra mile with him on the basis of 795 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: what we've seen. That's not as easy as maybe taking 796 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: the gamble, as it would pertain to a guy like 797 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, who's not going to end up here. Realistically, 798 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't expect that. I don't even know if necessary 799 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 2: that the Bengals are going to move on from him, 800 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: because that would be quite a surrender as well. But 801 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: those are two I think those are two completely different 802 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: animals that should not at all be related. And I'll 803 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: say again that whether the Vikings agree with this or not, 804 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 2: we'll find out, I think soon enough. I think you're 805 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: letting down your whole team, the other players on your 806 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: team if you do not give yourself a better option, 807 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: and that doesn't have to be any sort of statement 808 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: about that. Do you think JJ McCarthy is a failure. 809 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 2: It's a statement that JJ McCarthy to this point has 810 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: not been available. And if that problem goes away next year, 811 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 2: in the next five years, the problem will take care 812 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 2: of itself. But in the short run, for this upcoming season, 813 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: I just don't think you can go in and roll 814 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: the dice the way they did coming into this year 815 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 2: that you look back on it and you think they 816 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: really took a lot of gumption and gall to just 817 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: assume that you're going to be able to pick up 818 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: where you left off with a kid quarterback, and now, 819 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 2: especially with the amount of time that he has missed, 820 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: I give yourself a chance with another viable quarterback who 821 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: you view as more than just another backup, but a 822 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: guy who has a chance that you think to actually 823 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 2: keep your team in it, even if he has to 824 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 2: play four, five or six games. And maybe you go 825 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: a step further and you say, as circus like as 826 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: this can get, and I know that's what the vikings, 827 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: like a lot of teams want to avoid. You say, 828 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: we're having an open competition. We're just gonna let the 829 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: chips fall where they may and we'll see where it goes. 830 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: And if they're confident enough in JJ McCarthy, it'll end 831 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: up being JJ McCarthy who keeps the job. But if not, 832 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: maybe you learn something and you say, well, we got 833 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: to go with what we got to go. So we'll 834 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 2: see a lot of that, again depends on who's available, 835 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: what it'll cost, what you're willing to give up, the 836 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 2: amount of money, all those sorts of things I think 837 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 2: have to be entered into the into the mix. Tomorrow, 838 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 2: I'm assuming we'll get a little bit more information on 839 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: when the injury took place, because I think that's still 840 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: an open question. I've heard a lot of stuff has 841 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 2: been sent about videos showing him hitting his hand on 842 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: somebody's helmet. That is often the case in a situation 843 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: like this, and maybe it'll be We'll all be surprised. 844 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll end up recovering quickly and whatever it is, 845 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 2: it's much much better now. And he'll start on Christmas 846 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: Day against the Detroit Lions. I wouldn't count on it necessarily, 847 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: And then guess what, brozmerg gets a start, his second start, 848 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe he's better equipped to handle this 849 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 2: opportunity than he was the first time around. 850 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 3: When you're on the road, you're. 851 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: Planning difficult conditions, you're playing Seattle, a good defensive team. 852 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions are not very good defensively. The fan 853 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 2: has learned. I don't believe. So that to me is 854 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: where it would get delicious. Actually, is if brozmer starts, 855 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 2: and unlike in Seattle dazzles, everybody a little bit is 856 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: pretty ends up being pretty good. And then, of course 857 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: we finished the regular season against the Green Bay Packers, 858 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: who are still licking their wounds after somehow blowing that 859 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 2: ten point lead late to the Monsters. The Midway the 860 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: Chicago Bear, so we will see the plan. By the way, 861 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 2: the rest of the week, I don't even know who's on. 862 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: I'm out for the holiday purposes the rest of this week, 863 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: so I don't know if guards he's on from Arizona 864 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 2: some for I know it could be Dave Sinnecon other people. 865 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 3: Maybe Russo's hosting a show. I'm not exactly sure. 866 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: And then a few of those days or holidays anyway 867 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: where I think we're doing best of or we're doing games. 868 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: Christmas is obviously all the action of the Vikings game 869 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 2: will be on the on the fan as well, so 870 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 2: we'll regroup on the other side and well into Hard 871 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: to Believe Man twenty twenty six as well. What are 872 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 2: your Christmas plans? Do you hang here? Do you go elsewhere? 873 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 2: What's the Uh? 874 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be I'll be in town. I'll be doing 875 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 4: stuff with my sister and her family. 876 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 3: So are you from here? Yes? 877 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so you you grew up in the area, so 878 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: you're just hanging okay? Yeah? And the Chicago was it 879 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 2: what the Chicago Tribute said was some business and then 880 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 2: also just pleasure, just a weekend sort of get away, 881 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 2: a little bit exactly. 882 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny too because I was in I was 883 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 4: in Elgin on Saturday night. I was at the Grand 884 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 4: Victoria Casino. Oh, just a riverboat casino, and they have 885 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 4: a sports book there, and that was the closest thing 886 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 4: to a Vegas sports book I've I've seen a lot 887 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: of time. I mean, they were, they were all about it. 888 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 4: The no kidding, Oh yeah, I mean the Bears fans were. 889 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, you're behind me lines at 890 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 4: that point. But yeah, we're very much into it. 891 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 3: Interesting. 892 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 2: Well, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you and yours and 893 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 2: your family as well. Thanks for helping us out today, 894 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: as I said, and to the Rubes and the listeners, 895 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: I hope this whole week, whole holiday period goes very 896 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: very well for you. We appreciate your continued support of 897 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: the station. I hope most of you've gotten most of 898 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 2: Christmas shopping done. The bad news is if you like 899 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: Christmas atmosphere is I think it's supposed to be balmy, 900 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: like forty is forty five on Christmas Day than I read? Yeah, 901 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 2: mid thirties, but no more snow. I don't think I 902 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: don't think there's any snow on the forecast right now. No, 903 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: we're not going to get all the snow melted, are. 904 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: We by then? I hope it'd be very messy, that 905 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 3: part is for sure. 906 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: So here's the deal coming up next right here on 907 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: the fan, it's Vikings Rewind and then it is I 908 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: think a pretty interesting matchup Monday night football, San Francisco. 909 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers in Indianapolis. Stick on the Colts Philip Rivers. 910 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 2: They're showing him on the screen right now. 911 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 3: And look at that. 912 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: He still has a full head of hair, and he's 913 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: about fifty six years old. Still looks good to me. 914 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: I'll look forward to that tonight. Enjoy the holidays. We'll 915 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: talk to you soon.