1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: On the time. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. I don't want 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: to waste a single second teasing anything else. It's coming, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: because I don't care about anything else. It's coming. I'm 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: talking to Buddy Lilly right now and I'm loving it. 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: Veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. All right, buddy, you 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: just got over there, you get yourself signed up, and 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: you are leaving. You said, out on a convoy. What 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: does that mean? Why convoy? Where are you going? 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Went there? I was in Salisbury when I had the 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: first interview with these from this lady from the court, 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: and she sent me to Tali, which is used to 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: be I take a stepping off point when people were 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: going into Mosam Beacon Biara. For at one time it 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: was a vacation spot. But anyway, when I asked her 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: how do I get there? And they said, well, most 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: people hitchhike, and I said, oh cool, my kids, you not. 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: We I got a TAXI went to the hitchhike spot 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: and you took you took your place in line. If 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: you understand, you know, the first person there got the 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: first ride that came by et cetera, et cetera. And 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: my first ride that I got was with a gentleman, 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: older gentleman who's my age now probably, but back then, uh, 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: And I had a heck of a time understanding him 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: with his heavy English accent, and he had a heck 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: of a time understanding me with my Southern accent, which 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: is pretty much gone now. But it was a nice ride. 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: He told me about, pointed out things. He had a 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: pristine sterling I'm sure you're familiar with that nine millimeter uh, 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: like a little submachine gun he'd had for years, and 31 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: with a back of you know, whole bag of magazines. 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: And he just riding down the road by himself, glad 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: to have somebody come along and case they got into 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: a bang bang shoot him up. He let me off 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: at a place called the Sapi, which the Rasapi rivers 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: one of the notable, believe it or not, in the 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: middle of a war. They were doing two breast rafting 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: rafting excuse me down there, which kind of surprised me. So. Uh. 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: In between there, I had gotten a ride with a 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: gentleman from Bird's Eye Farms. He wanted me, He offered 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: me a job, but again I passed out me up 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: because again I wasn't familiar with nothing. So anyway, by 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: the time I got into a sapie, I was getting 44 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: a little tired of the long comes a I believe 45 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: it was called a Rhino Army armored Army armored vehicle 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: with four young guys in it, and they stopped back 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: up give me a ride. I said, this is very cool. 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: So I'm heading into Salisbury in this thing. And these 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: guys have been called a terrorists call up Oldust. One 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: was eighteen, they were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old, and 51 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: they took me into town and from there I hooked 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: up at the CID lady and she in turn hooked 53 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: me up with Anglo American Slash Force Management Service, who 54 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: hired me and put me on convoy duty escorting timber 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: trucks believe it or not, in and out of the 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Tamani Moni Mountains between Talian there. 57 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so walk me through convoy duty. What is your job? 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: How many vehicles? What is the danger out there the environment? 59 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Walk us to it. 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: Okay. I went on as a a gunner with one 61 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: of the machhown who was carrying the meg all you know, 62 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about felt fed and we drove around. We 63 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: were a we didn't stay in one place in the convoy. 64 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: We had a little I think it was in a 65 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: season and two guys in the front seat me and 66 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: a macheone are in the back with the seventy six 67 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: two mag and we may we may ride a mile 68 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: back from the convoy. We may go up and get 69 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: in the middle of the convoy. And it was really 70 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: dangerous because they they would spread out too much. I 71 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: haven't got a you know, you know what I'm talking 72 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: about on that, and it was really uncomfortable. They would 73 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: get hit. After I took over as EXO at one 74 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: of the companies, but right after I left them, the 75 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: convoy got hit. But we would go in. We'd leave 76 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: the tally about one o'clock. We would go into mal Setta, 77 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: which was where one of the sawmills was at. And 78 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: then from mel Sta we'd take one truck and go 79 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: to Tillbury Estate, which was where I would end up 80 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: being stationed at, and there we would leave an empty 81 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: track the trailer and pick up one september that been 82 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: cut come back. They had a hotel there that the 83 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: company owned. Cross Us two bucks a night. We stay 84 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: there and about six o'clock and the next morning we'd 85 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: be back on the road back to on Tlly. Get 86 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: there about eleven o'clock, two hour turnaround and it was 87 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: back on the road again. 88 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: Buddy, you say again speaking with Buddy Lily, veteran of 89 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian bush bore. You say, after you left, the 90 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: convoy got hit? What does that mean? What happened to it? 91 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: Who did what. 92 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: They got? Ambus? It was not far from mel set up. 93 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: I'm not I can't remember everything, but it was scattered 94 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: out and they hit the one of the chase trucks 95 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: like I was on. Nobody's hurt, but the guys had 96 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: to give up the truck and get out of the way. 97 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: They had to hit the bush run. The other guys 98 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: open fire, and I found out that G three brass 99 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: line can break the windshield. I don't know if you 100 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: ever had that experience or not in a rick or not, 101 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: but brass flying in the windows will break it all. 102 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: None of the security people were hurt. One of the 103 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: civilians lost the leg. It blew as hitting below the 104 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: below the knee and messed him up. 105 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right, buddy, you you leave this job. 106 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: What's your next job? And why did you leave? 107 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: They had they needed an exo at the security office 108 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: at teb Uh. It was timberline off. I got Tillbury 109 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: excuse me, Tillbury Estate where we would we would go 110 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: into at night, and they asked me if I wanted 111 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: to do it, and I liked it. It was uh. 112 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable with the way the convoys were acting 113 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: and if you tried to control African drivers, forget it. 114 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: They don't know but one speed and that's fast. They're 115 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: racing each other, and some things in different countries don't change. 116 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: So I went there and they asked me if I 117 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: wanted to stay on. So I went on and had 118 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: my gear brought up from Tolly and I took over 119 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: as number two in charge. 120 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: Buddy, Is that where you stayed for the remainder of 121 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 1: the war. Where'd you go from there? 122 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: I stayed right there. I came home on R and R. 123 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: We can go back and fill in later, but I 124 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: came home in R and R after the peacekeeping forces 125 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: came in, and once I got home, I got I 126 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: got a call, don't come back until we call you 127 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: because it wasn't looking real good. 128 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is still I'm assuming nineteen seventy nine. 129 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: What does pill seventy nine? Yes, sir, I got. I 130 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: was on the convoys for about ten days. So when 131 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: they put they asked me if I wanted to take 132 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: over his XO on the militia company or whatever you 133 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: want to call them. They're all mashona. There were two, 134 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: myself and the other uh oh, I see he was white, 135 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: and then the rest of them are all Mashonashona. 136 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, now we are gonna continue this story. Actually 137 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: right there in a moment mashona, because this is something 138 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: that's obviously more appropriate word. I believe that I think 139 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: I called them shana. I don't know whatever, but either way, 140 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna come back with Buddy. We'll find out about 141 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: these guys. It's just just two white guys all black guys. 142 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: I told you this wasn't a white versus black thing 143 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: like our dirty comedy media in this country sold everybody. 144 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: But we'll be back get the rest of Buddy Lily's story. 145 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Veteran of the Rhodesian Bushward. 146 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: Hang On and I had sixty Mashona in my company. 147 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: I used the term militia. They called himself guards. I 148 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: had sixty you ever take some of them stayed at 149 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: the compounds where the Europeans lived at. We can't two 150 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: to three there all the time. You know, they lived there, 151 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: I mean they they lived with the families, They ate 152 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: with the families. They stayed up and guarded them all 153 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: night long, and we usually we stayed around sixty personnel, 154 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: give or take all. 155 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Right, So how are you getting around the country and 156 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: what are you doing? What? What? What are you doing 157 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: with these Mashona tribesmen that that you're now basically in 158 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: charge of? 159 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: What? 160 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: What what are you doing? 161 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, as I mentioned, we had people that stayed at 162 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: the European compounds where the Europeans lived at White they 163 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: called them Europeans over there. They were the permanent security. 164 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: And then we ran uh patrols, mounted patrols, foot patrols, usual, 165 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: same stuff. But you do anywhere else, Uh make an appearance. 166 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: Let let the bad guys know you're here and see 167 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: if we can get you to come out, which they 168 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: did come out. 169 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: What kind of fighters were they? 170 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: Like? 171 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: Buddy good, bad idiots brave. 172 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: To be real honest. When I'm gonna tell you I 173 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: got from some of the guys that I work with, 174 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: which a couple of them had been Rhodesian light infantry. 175 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: The hardcore we were, you know, the ones that went 176 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: to Korea or Russia somewhere for training were pretty they 177 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: were pretty hardcore. But the rest of them were just criminals. 178 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: They didn't care who government was. They had an AK 179 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: forty seven and they could go out and rob, steal, rate, 180 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: do what they want to and it was all for liberty, 181 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: you know, to liberate the country. So if that gives 182 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: you an answer. 183 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: No, it is, it does. It's not a surprising answer 184 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: at all. Comedies are always recruiting these dirt balls in 185 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: any society to go. But your wonderful people, There's no 186 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: question about it. What was the attitude of the Rhodesians 187 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: when it came to international things, meaning was their hatred 188 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: for Britain, for America for selling them out? Did they 189 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: ever bring it up? Did they not care? 190 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: Yes? Kind of. I got checked out, vetted. They went 191 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: through my gear. They thought I was CIA, which I wasn't. 192 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if I was, I would tell you right now. 193 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: I was on my own and I'm not. As I 194 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: told one of the guys, I said, matter, if I'm Cia. 195 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: I'd be here to do something to help you. You 196 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: know when that ended that Britain they hated the Brits. 197 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: You can imagine what happened when the British send in 198 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: people for the peacekeeping force. That was not pretty. 199 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: What happened? What was this peacekeeping force? What happened? 200 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: We're getting a little ahead of ourselves. But when the 201 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 2: Lord Carrington, Jimmy Carter, I believe all of them got 202 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: together and they came up with this plan there was 203 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: gonna be free elections, which didn't happen. New Zealand, Australia 204 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 2: two other countries sent in supposedly peacekeeping forces, which was 205 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: a laugh because when these guys traveled with are our convoys. 206 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: They traveled a lot and loaded. What does that tell you? 207 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: But uh, that's why I came home in R and 208 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: R because we had been we'd been shut down. I 209 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: couldn't do any patrols. My last patrol, which is a 210 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: good story, I'll tell that in a minute, But we 211 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: were shut down. That was it. Patrol. Well, let me 212 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: let me if I could let me go into the 213 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: day by. 214 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Day routine, Please go ahead, Please. 215 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: I work into everything. I hadn't been there too long, when, 216 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: for what reason I never understood, griffs would go in 217 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: there and try and set the forest on fire. It 218 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: was a timber form. There was the thirty thousand acres 219 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: of Georgia pines there. That's hard to believe that they 220 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: had brought him in years before, and they grew exceedingly 221 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: fast and healthy up there in the mountains. So we 222 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: had to provide security for the company workers a long, 223 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: the sawmill workers who were trying to put the fire out, 224 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: and that ended up most of the night. About three 225 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning, my E five in charge, I 226 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: call it E five. They have one sergeant, one sergeant major, 227 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: and everybody else were foot soldiers. He came in and 228 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of humor stood at attention in my 229 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: room and sounded like when you're kipling with this famous serve, 230 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: I believe they want you at the fire perfectly. So 231 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: we hauled but out. Get down there. Uh. The estate 232 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: managers supervising. This is two or three o'clock in the morning, 233 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: and they kept setting little fires different places, and it 234 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: weren't burning good, but they were trying to set them. 235 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: So he told the sergeant and another couple of the 236 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: machoner to take me to a certain area to get 237 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: out and fire some rounds so that one group may 238 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: think that the other group was in contact. Which okay, 239 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: that worked, so we did that. We come flying back 240 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: in through there. I stopped the we were we had 241 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: what was called Leopard, It was supposedly a you know, 242 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: explosion proof vehicle, and we stopped and there was an explosion. 243 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: The army had set a reactionary force from downtown Melsetta, 244 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: which is a lot of very but besides as not 245 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: very big. But they had army detachment there and they 246 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: come up and they hit a mine. I could see 247 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: first heard an RPG go off which came from the weapon, 248 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: came from the army vehicle. They fired and I could 249 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: cover glimpse of some green tracers and I hauled as well. 250 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Let me go back to my sergeant again. 251 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: And for a little humor and Wednesday, I'm just nerding 252 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: out right now with veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War, 253 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Buddy Lily. I've never done an interview this long on 254 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: the show, and I'm loving it all right, Buddy. The 255 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: floor is back to being yours. Got yourself in a firefight. 256 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: There's RPGs, green tracers that many decades by the way 257 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: for people who don't know. And the floor is back 258 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: to being yours. 259 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: So my sage, the same one. He stands up behind me. 260 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm driving, and he says, Sir, I believe it is 261 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: an ambush, And I said, I said, I'm driving, You're 262 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: in charge. So I had to go up about fifty 263 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: yards mine, even fifty yards twenty five thirty yards, take 264 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: a left on the road, and I went nose to 265 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: nose with the army vehicle that had hit the mine 266 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: to avoid free fire. So in between all this it 267 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: wasn't funny. Then it's funny now they cut loose with 268 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: a G three. Oh. I had three guys in the back, 269 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: two of them had G three's and one of them 270 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: had a FA and the sergeant. They're firing over the 271 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: top through the canvas, and you know where all the 272 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: brass is going. Oh you've been there before, yes, sir. 273 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: I had one down my flack jacket right time. 274 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: All. 275 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I've never just robed so fast in my life. 276 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: As you know, in ambush is it's over in thirty seconds. 277 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: When I pulled in, everybody quit firing, and two minutes 278 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: later everybody's out front, they're shaking My guys are with 279 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: the Mashona Army guys. They're shaking hands and exchanging cigarettes. 280 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: And the driver gets out and he says, oh, you're 281 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: the yank. I said, yes, sir, and he said, glad 282 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: to meet you. You know, he said, this is my 283 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: fifth mind I've hit. And I looked at you. I said, 284 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: this is the fifth time you've hit a mind? He said, yep, man, 285 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: I said, Jesus oh. And I was deaf. I had 286 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: I was still felting being burnt. And these guys were 287 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: just so relaxed, you know, you automatically and drenalin goes down. 288 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: Everybody's cool. So we wait back and had breakfast. 289 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: What can I say, Rhodesians? Did you find them to 290 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: be good troops? Buddy? 291 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: Yes, the ones that I all the guys that I 292 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: worked with on the convoy. One of them was still 293 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: active duty from the Rodesian Rifles. He had been in 294 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: the bush so long he had months of leaves, so 295 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: they gave him his leave. He was a sergeant major 296 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: and he was working for the company while he was 297 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: on leave. One of the guys had come from RLI 298 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: and I saw his record in one month, he did 299 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven jumps. How many guys real? How many good? 300 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: Great, that's more than most guys doing their whole career. Buddy, 301 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: I have to ask you about your last patrol. Tell 302 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: us that story. 303 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: When the King's Keeping forces came in. The estate manager said, look, 304 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: we're going to have to quit. We can't go out there. 305 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: Well about a month prior, we'd had him come into 306 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: one of the villages, and unfortunately we couldn't catch up 307 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: with them before they got to the TTL, which is 308 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: their tribal trust land. We even put a block and 309 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: force out and just couldn't get to them. There's a 310 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: lot more to it, but that just would mounted to 311 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: So with payday coming up, he said, let's go out. 312 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: He said, go out and let the tears know that 313 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: we're looking for him anyway, because they like to come 314 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: into the villages on payday and help themselves to whatever 315 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: money they could get. We were doing a short run. 316 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: One my poor guy looked and picked up a letter. 317 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: It was a fresh letter, had been opened, but it 318 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: was a terroist writing each other back and forth. And 319 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: he says, they're here. I said, oh great, So I 320 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: called headquarters. We had radios. They weren't real good, but 321 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: we called and I said, we're going to follow them, 322 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: So here we go. I only had two I had 323 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: five guys with me. I had two canteens of water 324 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: with me and that was it. And we got on 325 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: a game trail got going down the hills. First thing 326 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: I was walking point at the time. The first thing 327 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: I came across as a trip wire. Well it wasn't 328 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: a trip wire, it was a snare. My guys explained 329 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: to me that the tears would snare an animal and 330 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: just leave it and when they needed food next time 331 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: they come through, they kill it. Which is that gets new? Well, 332 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: you know that slowed us down. We found it was 333 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: a nice trail, but we found one or two more 334 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: though it's been so long. And we came out of 335 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: the brush on the side of a hill a little 336 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: bit and next thing I know, by I had my 337 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: tracker was up front. Stephen was English name. He was 338 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: a machooner and he was like a goat. He can 339 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: just walk up anything. Jesse. I looked down and there 340 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: was a stream down there and it must have been 341 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: two hundred foot straight down rocks and I have never 342 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: felt my gut come up in my throat like it 343 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: right then. Two reasons I didn't want to fall, and 344 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: we were wide open if we were following you know, 345 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: terrorists four, and now all I could think of I 346 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: had screwed up big time. I got this whole patrol 347 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: right here in the open, and we had about fifteen 348 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: foot to go. And when we finally got up there, 349 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: I was man, I would say. We all just kind 350 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: of laid down, and by then all two canteens of 351 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: water was gone. This has been six seven hours. Just 352 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: got comfortable. Steven looks up and he motions that he 353 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: put his fingers up on on his collar, which so 354 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: then you know, for me to come forward. There's a 355 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: good coming up the river the stream. He's not armed, 356 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: and of course they wanted me to take him out, 357 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 2: and we didn't know if it was a terrorist or 358 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: whether it was a villager. We sat there watching, watching, 359 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: he was going along doing something in the water, and 360 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: I could have got him, and it wasn't over one 361 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards. I could have popped him, but 362 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: I didn't want to shoot an innocent although they weren't 363 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: supposed to be there. Said okay, let's see if we 364 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: can slip down and capture him, which was not a 365 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: good idea because he probably had friends, but it was 366 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: a good idea at the time. We knocked a rock 367 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: down the hill, just like in the movie Ah. I 368 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 2: motioned the guys to go in in defensive position. I said, oh, 369 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: we are so screwed. That was mistakes I had made 370 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: the same day, and nothing happened. We waited. Finally we 371 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: used on down the hill. We got to the creek 372 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: and myself and Steven stood guard. Well, the rest of 373 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: them got in the water and then they stood guard, 374 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: and we got down and got cooled off, and everything 375 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 2: ended up. We had lost radio contact, headed up on 376 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: finally got up on a hill where I could reach 377 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: the base, told them where we were. They knew where 378 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: we were at, so they said, wait, we'll send our 379 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: guys out to get you. And we sat there talking 380 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: and it was very sad because one of the guys 381 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: asked me and said, mister They called me, mister budd, 382 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: where are you going. You can go home when this 383 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 2: is over, And I looked at him. I said, guys, 384 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: all I can tell you to do if my gobby wins, 385 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: take your weapons and go to South Africa. Travel at 386 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: night all because they could not go back to the 387 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: village suggest if they did, they'd be killed, plus their 388 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: families would be killed h because they had been you know, 389 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 2: security people. So by then we got on back and 390 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: we couldn't do anything. You would just sit around, go 391 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: just kill time and you know, twiddle your thumbs. So 392 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: that's when I asked the boss about going home on 393 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: R and R for thirty days or whatever. Of course, 394 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: they gave me a wish list of stuff to bring back, 395 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: which I knew I couldn't do, but I would try anyway, 396 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: And that's about how it ended. Got home and got 397 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: a call. So there I was broke, unemployed. I tried 398 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: to get my job back with the government and that 399 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: didn't go over real good. 400 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Buddy, Lily, Buddy, I just cannot thank you enough for 401 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: forgiving us to perspective. It's somehing. I know people are 402 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: just wrapped up fascinated by it. I've been fascinated by it. 403 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Thank you for one your service to our country, service 404 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: to a wonderful country like Rhodesia, for giving us some time. 405 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate you very much, Buddy Lily, simplify my friend. Merry 406 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: Christmas to you. And yours by the way, Mary Christmas. 407 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment of The 408 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Wednesday. You can email 409 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. What a 410 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: freaking week it has been already we're cruising into the 411 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: end of it. We're like ten minutes away from Donald 412 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: Trump addressing the nation. Now, presidents are almost always late. 413 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: You can be late when you're the President of the 414 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: United States of America. But at nine pm Eastern, we'll 415 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: see if the rumors are true that he's essentially gonna 416 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: say Venezuela's got it coming. Jewish producer Chris disagrees that's 417 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: what he's gonna say. I'm not saying I think it is. 418 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of rumors going on around. We'll find out. 419 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Let's hope by the time I sit down tomorrow, we're 420 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: not at war with Venezuela. What Chris, Chris said, Congress 421 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: would never declare war. Well, do you think you live 422 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: in a country where that still matters? They don't even 423 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: ask Congress anymore. They just they just decide to go 424 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: do it whenever they want to do it. It's just 425 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: whatever Jesse. We need to import all of Western Europeans 426 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: who hold our ideals that are about to lose their lands. 427 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: We will need them to reconquer our own, and then 428 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: we need to conquer Canada as well. If Mexico looks 429 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: Mexico looks at us wrong, they'll be next. I love Canadians, 430 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: and there are so many hardcore right wingers in Canada, 431 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: and they are outnumbered impossibly. Now. They were always outnumbered 432 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: a little, but now I heard an incredible stat and 433 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to misquote it, so they'll 434 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: be just clarify when I'm about to say, maybe incorrect, 435 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: but I think it's in the last four or five years, 436 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Canada has had a twenty percent increase in their population, 437 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: all foreigners. They just completely looks. I've told you that's 438 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: what they want to do. That's the plan. You outnumber 439 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: your patriotic citizens so they never have a voice and 440 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: you get to maintain your tyranny forever. The ultimate patriotic 441 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: issue is immigration. You can tell how patriotic you are 442 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: based on how you are on that issue, because to 443 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: the communist it is everything. Why do you think they 444 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: talk like this? How do you think it ends. How 445 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: do you think the era ends? 446 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Girl? 447 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: This is I'm hoping. 448 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out 449 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: and vote like crazy to switch it over and then 450 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: the reckon incomes. That's what I want. All everybody that 451 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 4: work for ICE, I want them in jail. 452 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: I just want a. 453 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: Wreck everydy that works for ICE, I want them in jail. Well, 454 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: i'll talk like this that Democrats will now without even 455 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: like it's not like there it's a text message that 456 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: got exposed. They'll step up to the microphone in public 457 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: and they'll announce that immigrants build America, just right in 458 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: your face. They don't hide it at all. Again, here's 459 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen. 460 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in 461 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: the country illegally. 462 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: It's not right. They're mortified that we're deporting people who 463 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: are here illegally. Anyway, as far as bringing in people 464 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: who share our values, it's a fun thing to dream about. 465 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: It will never happen. Trump did a little of it. 466 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: He brought in some Africaners. Remember Africaners. Well, actually, it's 467 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: a good time to bring it up. What happened in Rhodesia. 468 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: It's happening already in South Africa now too, where the 469 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: ruling communist elite there they've declared that white people are 470 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: the enemy, wh people are evil, and white people were 471 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: under assault over there. So the white ones there are 472 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: called Africaners, and Trump brought a bunch of them over here. 473 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Notice you never hear word from them. Notice they're not 474 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: all on welfare. Notice they never run to the news 475 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: and talk like that. 476 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: The biggest worry of the new executive order is that 477 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for 478 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: you as citizens to have their family members be able 479 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so 480 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: this is a very cool. 481 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: They just show up, find a job, go to work, grateful. 482 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Who you bring in matters a lot, It matters a lot. 483 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Every culture is not the same, Every culture is not equal. 484 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: There are disgusting third world thieving, raping, murdering cultures out 485 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: there all across the globe. And the number of people 486 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: you should bring into your country from those cultures is zero. 487 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: You go and keep, just go, burner anyone you want 488 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: in your country. You stay out of my country, but 489 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: not us, because we have a Democrat party and Republicans 490 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: like James Langford. We've thrown open our borders and brought 491 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: these barbarians into your classroom. That's why they ate your 492 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: cat last week. By the way, do you have a 493 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: burner compact launcher yet? Because these savages are all throughout 494 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: our society. Now, don't think that you're small Midwestern towns safe. 495 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh they're going to bring eight thousand people from Haiti 496 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: and park them in your kids' school next week. Do 497 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: you have something that will stop a bad man from 498 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: hurting you? Does your daughter? It's really, really, really important 499 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: to understand how dangerous our society has become. And Berna 500 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: is legal everywhere because it's not lethal. It shoots pepper 501 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: balls or tear gas balls or kinetic rounds. Private security 502 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: companies carry these things. Swat teams carry these things. Burna 503 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: saves lives. That's already saved lives of my listeners. Be 504 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: on RNA Berna dot com, slash Jesse, Berna dot com 505 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: slash Jesse. 506 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: And now here's a headline. Why you know that? 507 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: You know the thing headlines we didn't get to. Abdul 508 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: l said, By the way, he's running for office in Michigan, 509 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: not Lebanon I Swear proposed commuting all sentences for juveniles 510 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: facing life in prison. The plan would grant early release 511 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: to some of Michigan's most violent killers. It's almost like 512 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to put violent criminals back into society. No, 513 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: that couldn't be it, right, I'm sure they're just No. 514 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: You've new Canadian school rule forces kids to wear helmets 515 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: to play in the snow. Oh my gosh. I wish 516 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: I could tell my father about that. Hydrogen plays part 517 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: in global warming according to a study. I reminded that 518 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: there is no global warming warming, no man cause global warming. 519 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: The Earth's weather pads are exactly that patterns. It heats, 520 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: it cools, it does its thing. But the very idea 521 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: that man is destroying the earth is an idea that's 522 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: going to kill a couple billion people one day. Trump's 523 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: marijuana move has Democrats nervous. According to a CNN analyst, 524 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: one might say they're paranoid. Foiled again, fentanyl dealer shows 525 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: up to court with more drugs. Hey, that's where the 526 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: criminals are. You can hardly blame him for that. House 527 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Republican who voted to impeach Trump in twenty twenty one 528 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: won't seek reelection. Goy, we have some freaking loser dorks. 529 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: Rubio says he will not run in twenty twenty eight 530 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: and JD. Vance enters the race. That is not only 531 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: are they friends, that's just a realistic acknowledgment from Rubio 532 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: that Jdvans is going to be very difficult to beat 533 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: in the Republican primary. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. 534 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're gonna do. We'll have fun, though, 535 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: that's all.