1 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: In one final time five seconds ago, crowd rising Eric 2 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: ran Cassino, arena coop drop bottom of the right circle, Wait, 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: shoots one in front. 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: And the horse sounds in. 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota Wild get back in the win column, A five 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: one victory over Tampa Bay, the lightning of drop three 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: in a row in regulation, Gustafson, the win caprice off, 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the franchise record for career goals in the process, and 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: how much needed win for the while. To wrap up 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: this quick little two game. 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Homestand welcome back final hour nine to noon nord to 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: win for PA. He'll be back tomorrow. 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: Normally, when we would have the TV voice of the 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: Wild in as in Anthony Lapanta ad Anthony Lapanta v 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: X and you can watch him on TV, we'd play 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: audio of the TV voice of the Minnesota Wild. We 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: didn't have any from last night, mister Lapanta. What happened Well, 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: I was given an involuntary night off. The national TV 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: guys took the game, and so that meant I was 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: just sitting I. 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: Don't know, maybe thirty feet from the guys calling it 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: on the radio, watching the game from the booth. And 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: I hate having nights off, but every once in a while. 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: I mean, there's worse ways to spend a night off 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: than just sitting at the arena watching the game, and 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: it's exciting. 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 5: It's funny. 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: You very rarely watch a game with just the sounds 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: of an arena. Yeah, because I'm either calling the game 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: where I've got my own voice in my head, or 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: I'm watching a game on television where I've got somebody 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: else's voice. It's very rare that I'm just sitting in 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: an arena and all I hear is the crowd and 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: the skates and the whistles and things like that. So 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: every once in a while, it does you like, this 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: is how people watch games, This is what it sounds 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: like in an arena at a game. 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: How differently do you see the game? I mean, you 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: think because you're trying to process so much, you're telling 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: this story at a high level like you do on television. 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: But then when you do have to gear completely down, 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: do you ever find yourself just calling the game? I 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: catch yourself talking. 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: Somebody asked me that question on social media last night 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: and said, are you able to just enjoy the game 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: or do you call the game in your head? 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: And I responded to them with, well, both. 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: I enjoy the game, but there are a lot of 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 4: moments where I just catch myself as the puck goes 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: in the corner, the names and the jerseys are running 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: through my mind, just subconsciously, and it's just the way 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: I watch games. And it's different because it's a in 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: this case Tampa, a team we haven't seen yet this year, 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: so I hadn't done any prep for Tampa because I 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: knew I wasn't doing the game. So there were a 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: couple of guys I was like, WHOA, I'm not even 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: sure who twenty two for them is. And the guys 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: who have been there for a while, they're just they're 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: right off the tip of your tongue. So there's a 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: little bit of difference. But I do find myself just 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: the same way because it's the way you watch games 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: so often, and the little tidbits that pop into your 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 4: mind that oh, yeah, the boldie just did that. Seems 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 4: to me he's done this, and I find myself looking 65 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 4: like I would during a broadcast. Is that five games 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: in a row with an assist? Is that whatever the 67 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: little note might be, Yeah, yeah, I don't think you 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: ever get out of that when you're a play by 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: play guy, that's just the way you watch the game. 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: No, I suppose I suppose that's acting. 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: I mean again, the rhythm and routine you got to 72 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: have calling these games, just even for one night, it's like. 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was. 74 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: I was talking with some buddies of mine over the 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: break and they were asking me about the days when 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: I used to coach high school football. So I watched 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: football games that way still to this day. I was 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: a defensive backs coach, so I did a lot of 79 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: our film study on opposing offenses. 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: And that's how I want. 81 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 4: Every time a team breaks a huddle, I'm calling out 82 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: the formation in my mind to the terminology we used 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: to use at Tatino Grace, like this is what we 84 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: called Trey x F strong and. 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 5: Okay the Trey XF strong, Okay, the ex motion what like? 86 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: You just your brain just goes that way, And it's 87 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: the same for play by play, where you you just 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: I don't know that it'll be that I'll ever just 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: watch a game and not be thinking in my mind like, oh, 90 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 4: it was a line change, Oh that guy's on the 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 4: wing this time. He had a different guy in the 92 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: wing last time, and or just oh, they killed the penalty. 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: It seems like they've killed five in a rowers and 94 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: you just immediately start to think the way you would 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: if you're calling the game. 96 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Good one to sit for last night? Though? 97 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: How about that the five to one throttling, And you 98 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: know how weird matchups can be. The Wild, I mean, 99 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: Lightning got Koocherof and Vassilevski, they're hoisting cups the whole thing. 100 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: Wild kind of got the Lightning's number over the last 101 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: handfull of years, and. 102 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: They do it. 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: It's been really for I don't know, a decade maybe, 104 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: and we've talked about it a lot when we make 105 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: the swing through Florida because now recently Florida's had success, 106 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: but for most of about an eight to ten year period, 107 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 4: Tampa was the better team. 108 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 5: And yet the Wild would always seemed to play. 109 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: Better in Tampa than they did in South Florida, And 110 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: it didn't matter which team they played. 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 5: First. 112 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: They'd go down to South Florida and they'd wind up 113 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: in an eight to six game against the Panthers, and 114 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: then they'd go up two nights later against the Cup 115 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: contender in Tampa and they'd tighten things up and beat 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 4: the lightning, and I thought last night's game was I 117 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: really thought they kind of got back to their game 118 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: in the Saint Louis game, even though they lost the 119 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: game and they didn't really do much offensively. The first 120 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 4: two games out of the break, they were not played 121 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: and the way the Wild want to play. They won 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: in Denver, but they gave up forty seven shots. They 123 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: got run over in Utah and gave up thirty seven. 124 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: That's not the way the Wild are going to win 125 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 4: if they're going to win in the postseason. These last 126 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: two have looked a lot more like Wild hockey. And 127 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, I think last night it was twenty 128 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: five shots. Maybe I think Saint Louis only had twenty 129 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: four and. 130 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: There was twenty five twenty two in shots last night. 131 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of more than and I think the 132 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: Saint Louis game might have been twenty four to twenty three. 133 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: So it was it was more the style of game 134 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: the child want to play, and we're playing. When they 135 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: were at their best, when they had that run through 136 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: December where they were playing as well as anybody in 137 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: the NHL, they weren't winning games six to five on 138 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: the occasion where they scored their way out of trouble. 139 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: But most nights it was they were winning three to one, 140 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: three to two. And I know the game against Saint 141 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: Louis the other night, in fact, it was the first 142 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: time the Wild had lost in regulation when allowing three 143 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 4: goals or less all year. They were the only team 144 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: in the NHL that hadn't lost a game in regulation 145 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: that way. That's their recipe. They know if they hold 146 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 4: teams to three, they're going to be in the game. 147 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: And they've especially since the Hughes addition, they've found some 148 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 4: ways to win games in other fashions, like the last 149 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: game went into the break in Nashville where they won 150 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: six to five. But that's not You're not going to 151 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: beat Dallas in Colorado in a best of seven trying 152 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: to win games six to five. 153 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Seeing bro Dean back healthy and just what that looked 154 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: like last night, I mean, we know what Faber and 155 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: Hughes can do, but when you start deepening out the 156 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: rest of the blue line, I mean, that is going 157 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: to lend to the credence to the idea of we 158 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: can absolutely keep teams. We can keep the Kucherovs of 159 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: the world. 160 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: I know he got a goal last night, but all 161 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: the same, very minimal opportunities. We can keep teams, We 162 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: can keep our boot on them a little bit with 163 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: the depth and the health thankfully on the blue line. 164 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: Well, when Minnesota's healthy. To me, i'd take their top six, 165 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: even say top seven defenseman over any in the league. 166 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: A set of Hughes and favor that they can defend, 167 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: they can also create offense. And then you've got Spurgeon 168 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: and Brodein when they're just allowed to play together. There 169 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: aren't very many that shut people down like those two 170 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: guys do. Last year when they played together, they were 171 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: the stingiest defensive tandem in the NHL, and they weren't 172 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: allowed to play together at length just because of the 173 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: way the rest of the decourse shook out. But now 174 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: with the addition of Quinn Hughes, you can put those 175 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: two guys together and they'll shut anybody down. And then 176 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: when you've got a third set that's got Jake Middleton 177 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 4: and Zach Magoshin, you've got something. And Middleton has played 178 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: in the top four most of his time with Minnesota, 179 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: you throw him down as your number five guy. There 180 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: aren't many teams that have got a number five that 181 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: can compete with that. Bagosian brings a sturdiness and a 182 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: more skating than what people give him credit for at 183 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: this point in his career. And then Damon Hunt as 184 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: a number seven who has proven to be a valuable 185 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: asset to this club. I don't think there's another team 186 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: in the league that's got a seven one through seven 187 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: that compares with those, And they bring a little bit 188 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: different dynamic. Now because the Hughes in favor tandem, he's 189 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: in Faber tandem, they're not just making plays offensively, and 190 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 4: I know they can and they are favor scored again 191 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: last night. He's in the top I think he's in 192 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: the top seven in the NHL in terms of goals 193 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: by defenseman, Hughes in the top four or points by defenseman. 194 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 4: But as we saw in the Olympics, brock Faber is 195 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: still the man when you need to shut somebody down. 196 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: He was the guy and the five on three power 197 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: play for Canada. He was the one defenseman on the 198 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: ice when it was time to go up against the best. 199 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 4: It was he and Jacob Slaven that were out there 200 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 4: to try to shut people down. He still has that 201 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: in him. And then as I mentioned Spurgeon and Brodein 202 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: with their skating and their ability to close on people. 203 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: There's not a better defensive shutdown pair than those two guys. 204 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: So I really love the way their blue line is 205 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: set up right now. 206 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: Maybe Heinze's PK success and the Olympics can rub off 207 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: on our favorite hockey team. 208 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Huh. 209 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: Well, maybe we talked about that as this a little 210 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: bit yesterday on a podcast with one of your favorite 211 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: beat writers in town, and the question was asked that 212 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: you've got the guy coaching the penalty kill in the 213 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: Olympics was the same guy who's coaching here. It's not 214 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: an ex's and o's thing. It's not a system, it's 215 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: not a structure. US penalty kill went eighteen for eighteen 216 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: against the best players in the world, including that key 217 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: five on three kill against Canada, and you've got some 218 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: of this people. Matt Boldie's a big part of the 219 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: penalty kill here. Brock favors a big part of the 220 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: penalty kill. I think Minnesota early in the year struggled 221 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: to with some of the details in it, and because 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: of that, statistically, they're probably never gonna get back to 223 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: where they'd like to be. Over the course of the season. 224 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: But right now that kill has been really good over 225 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: the last nine games. I think it's eighty seven percent 226 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: right now, and if they're going to go anywhere in 227 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: the playoffs, the kill has to be has to be 228 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: at that level. It's got to be elite because it's 229 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: been their undoing in the playoffs the last couple of years. 230 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: Last year against Vegas it was fine, but the years 231 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 4: before that, against both Dallas and Saint Louis, it was 232 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: the penalty kill that was their undoing in those series. 233 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: They can't win in the postseason without a kill that's 234 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: somewhere in the eighty two to eighty four percent range, 235 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: and lately it has been I think, you know, they've 236 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 4: got the personnel part figured out now, and I think 237 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: it's a kill that should be evaluated maybe on the 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: second half of the season rather than the overall numbers. 239 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: Just because they were so bad for a stretch early 240 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: and weren't getting saves early. That has just put him 241 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: in a spot where it's it's never They're not going 242 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: to end up in the top ten in terms of 243 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: penalty kill, but it might be a top ten penalty 244 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: kill when the playoffs start. 245 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: And you know Bill Garon getting not heat. But I 246 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 3: think he was criticized when he was building that roster 247 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: for the Olympics and bringing it back to our favorite team, 248 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: whether it's Robbie Fabric being added to the mix and 249 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: now Michael McCarran. You know, just kind of seeing as 250 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: that news was released yesterday, some people are kind of 251 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: scratching their heads, like, I can't what huh? 252 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: That wasn't the Predator. I wanted what up with stamcos 253 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: et cetera. 254 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: But you know, when it comes to whether you know 255 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: mcern and his face off ability, he saw just a 256 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: little smidgeon from Fabric last night. A few shifts, but 257 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: what nine to ten minutes on the ice maybe, but 258 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: just kind of seeing a little spunk from him. You 259 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: can kind of see similarly the roles that these guys 260 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: might play in as in the postseason potentially. 261 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Fabri was a no risk deal. It cost 262 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: him nothing. Let's take a shot at a guy who 263 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: has proven himself to be able to score in the 264 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: NHL a little more than the guys like Tyler Pittlick 265 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: Ben Jones who had been filling that role for Minnesota. 266 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: He's got over one hundred goals in the NHL. I 267 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: had five seasons where he was double figures, And I mean, 268 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: he's not going to be an impact top six guy 269 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: at this point in his career, but he's a guy 270 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: who's at least proven he can score in the NHL. 271 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: Mccaren is a little bit more of a personality guy, 272 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: and I don't know a ton about him personally. 273 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 5: I don't even remember that I've talked to him. 274 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: But I watched Andrew Burnett's press conference in Nashville after 275 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: their game last night talking about the McCarran trade, and 276 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: you can just tell how disappointed he was to lose 277 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: McCarran as a guy, as a person and as a 278 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: part of that team, and certainly a team that's in 279 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: their spot where they've been pushing to try to get 280 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: back into the playoff picture and now all of a sudden, 281 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: they're management decides it's time to move some parts. There's 282 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: going to be some sadness and disappointment. Bruno, he was pissed, 283 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: and you can tell, but you could also tell with 284 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: McCarran that it was a This is a guy who 285 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: brings a lot more than what the numbers say. 286 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: He brings and we're sad to see him go. 287 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: It could be the sign of maybe some other deals 288 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: where that there might be another deal in place where 289 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 4: it's a player that now McCarran takes that spot, Marcus 290 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: Felino's out of the lineup, So it could even just 291 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: be a short term. Hey, we absolutely need another guy 292 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: who can bring some physical some physicalness to the game. 293 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: His face offs are have been very good over the 294 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: last four seasons. I think he's about fifty four percent. 295 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 4: He's a right shot face off guy, which has been 296 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: something Minnesota has been lacking. So there's a lot of 297 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: reasons why he might be able to help fill a role. 298 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: No matter what happens with another move, I still really 299 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: would be surprised if there's not another somewhat more significant 300 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: deal in the Wild's future here before the deadline on Friday. 301 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing that struck me and I have too 302 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: much NFL on the mind sometimes, especially with free agency 303 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: around the corner, but you hear that he's dealt. I 304 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: think it was like a second round pick was going 305 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: to be a free agent this summer, and that just 306 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: felt like I'm instantly thinking, Wow, that's a lot to 307 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: give up for a guy that's almost kind of a 308 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: rental at this stage. But you know, whether it was 309 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: the things that I've read on him and the reporting 310 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: done by your favorite beat reporter for the Minnesota Wild 311 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: and he's America's favorite blogger, as Kevin Falness would say, 312 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: I would never say that about mister Russo, but there 313 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: is that that glue in the other elements, the physical 314 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: nature of the game. Thank goodness for the face offs, 315 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: Like you kind of got to read through it a 316 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: little bit to learn more about the guy, but you 317 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: kind of understand maybe again that role that he could 318 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: play on this team. 319 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think that's true, but I also think it's 320 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: a the second round pick is especially if you're going 321 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: to be picking toward the end of the second round. 322 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: Now. 323 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: I know this was a second round pick a couple 324 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: of years out because the Wild have already traded the 325 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: next few, but you're talking about something that might be 326 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: four years down the road, five years down the road 327 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: before that player makes an impact in the NHL, and 328 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: right now, this is a team that I believe has 329 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: it's not just a this year window. So mcaren he's 330 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: a this year guy because he is a free agent, 331 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: but I think you're looking at a team and a 332 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: roster that's built for about a three or four year 333 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: stretch here where they expect to be one of the 334 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: teams to beat in the Western Conference. And you look 335 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: at the core that's locked up and Capriceovin Faber are 336 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: here for the long term. But Eric Sinek, Gustafson, Boldie, 337 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: you're talking about three four years with all of those 338 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 4: guys in place. Hopefully there's an extension for Quinn sometime 339 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: this summer and he becomes a part of that. Because 340 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: now with that core, this isn't just a let's we 341 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: got to push all in to try to win right 342 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: now spring. This is a let's make sure that with 343 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: the assets we have to trade that were smart about them, 344 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: that were prudent with them, because the assets are limited. 345 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: They gave up a lot to get Quinn Hughes. 346 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: So everybody has been well documented what they have left 347 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: that they can use as a trade chip. That trade 348 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: chip to me or those trade chips really will likely 349 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: and should be used on somebody that could be here 350 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: for all three or three or four of these years 351 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: where this windows open. The NHL is a fickle thing 352 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, because as I've said this a lot 353 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: of times over the last few years, that I think 354 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: when you start to look at what Bill Garon's plan was, 355 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: going back to the buyouts of Parisian Suitor was it 356 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: was designed to this season be ready to compete. And 357 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: when you say ready to compete, it isn't defined by 358 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: whether or not you win in the first round of 359 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: the playoffs. They're going to face one of the best 360 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: five teams in the NHL in the first round of 361 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: the playoffs, whether it be Colorado or Dallas. It's almost 362 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: assured that that's what's going to happen. You could lose 363 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: that playoff series and it doesn't mean the plan failed. 364 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: What the plan was intended was to give you three 365 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: or four years where when teams look at the West 366 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: and they say, who are the three or four teams 367 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: that are the teams to beat in the West, and 368 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: are the wild one of them? Because then you've got 369 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: to get great goaltending, you've got to stay healthy, you 370 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: got to catch a couple of breaks, maybe the key 371 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: call here or there throughout that run has to go 372 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: your way. 373 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: You could be the best team in the league. 374 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 4: And if one of those things doesn't happen, you still 375 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 4: get knocked out, but over the course of three or 376 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: four years, there's got to be a couple of years 377 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: where those things fall your way and you see a 378 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: team that makes a run in the West. 379 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 5: And I think that's what we're looking at with this 380 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 5: wild roster right now. 381 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: Well, and with this roster, and with the trade deadline 382 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: two days from today you mentioned it, you wonder if 383 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: maybe this isn't there might be a more significant move 384 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: between now in the deadline. Vinny Trocheck, of course, has 385 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: been heavily reported on and talked about, and it just 386 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: people are almost surprised he's not here yet. How surprising 387 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: would it be given what you mentioned that window. 388 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: Is there any chance it doesn't happen. 389 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's a chance. For sure, there's a chance 390 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't happen. 391 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: And I think when you start to look at this 392 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: goes back to what I was just talking about with 393 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: the three or four year window. Maybe the fit the 394 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 4: best deal for this spring isn't that top six, first 395 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: line center, big splash deal just because. 396 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: Of what the price tag might be. 397 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: Maybe that's this summer, and that's when you really use 398 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: these assets you have left and everybody knows the assets 399 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: you're talking about it. We've got Yespervalstad, You've got Danili 400 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: year Off, you've got a first round pick in twenty 401 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: twenty seven. And I hate to even throw those guys' 402 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: names out because I have no idea who's been mentioned 403 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: in what trade. But these are from an outside perspective, 404 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: it seems obvious these are the significant chips. And I 405 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: should throw Charlie Stramil in there as well, who's had 406 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: an outstanding here at Michigan State. 407 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: If these are your. 408 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: Four main assets, if you maybe use one of those 409 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: to add a piece for this year that helps you 410 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 4: this year, and they're close. I mean they're in the 411 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: top five in the NHL right now. We're not talking 412 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 4: about a team that has no chance. They're in the 413 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: hunt right now. Yeah, But if the price tag on 414 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 4: a guy that isn't somebody who you see helping you 415 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 4: for all three or four years, is multiple parts of these, 416 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 4: multiple pieces of these assets, it's probably not worth it. 417 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 4: Maybe the bigger piece is available this summer and you say, 418 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: all right, let's make the Let's make the deal for 419 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: a middle six center right now that might be enough 420 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: to make us a Legit contender in the West and 421 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: therefore to win the Cup this year. So it wouldn't 422 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 4: shock me if there wasn't a major deal like one 423 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: of the guys you threw out there earlier from Nashville. 424 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 4: But I thought Billy Garon gave a press conference the 425 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: other day. I don't know if you guys carried it 426 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: or listened to it, but it was I thought. His 427 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: last answer was the most interesting. There are so many 428 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: teams right now that are on the bubble. In both conferences, 429 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: he was asked that as the standings change by day, 430 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the team wins two in 431 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 4: a row and they're a point out of the playoffs, 432 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: and then they lose two in a row and they're outside. 433 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 4: Have you gotten to the point where you've targeted a player, 434 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: maybe even had the framework of a deal in place, 435 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden that team standing has changed. 436 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 5: And he said, yes, that's happened. 437 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: So imagine how many potential deals might be out there 438 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: with teams where it's okay, if you guys are to 439 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 4: lose three in a row, this guy's on the table. 440 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 5: What would it look like. 441 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: Imagine how many contingent deals, to say, deals makes it 442 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: sound like they might be further down the road than that, 443 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: but contingent potential deals. If things don't go well for you, 444 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: what would it take to get this guy? And then 445 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: sometimes when you have to have a second trade in place, 446 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: because let's say it's a deal that's a major deal 447 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 4: trading one of your goaltenders, do you have a second 448 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: deal in place to bring a goaltender back? And all 449 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 4: of those potential deals the balls that you have to 450 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 4: keep in the air until that last minute, when all 451 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 4: of a sudden the team says, all right, we know 452 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: we're out, We're ready to deal, and now bang, bang bang, 453 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: you got to have these other things in place. It's 454 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: such a complex trade deadline that I think, because of 455 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: so many teams still being in it, we're going to 456 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: see a flurry of activity Thursday and Friday. 457 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: Where Like last year a lot of the deals. 458 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: Were made a week and a half in the advance 459 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: of the deadline, teams were a little more secure in 460 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: their spot. This year, there's so many that are still 461 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: wondering are we good enough, are we close enough? And 462 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: even if we did get in, is it worth it. 463 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: I think that you're going to see a significant number 464 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 4: of deals late, and it wouldn't shock me at all 465 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: if Minnesota was highly involved, and it wouldn't surprise me 466 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 4: too much if it was a I don't want to 467 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: say lesser deal because that makes it sound like the 468 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: player they bring in is a is a lesser commodity 469 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: or a lesser player, but just not the big splash 470 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 4: kind of trade that that I think some people just 471 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: assumed was going to happen. 472 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, a great example of that too, and you nailed 473 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 3: it perfectly. Just think about mccaren Nashville comes out of 474 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: the break, they win that first one, they lose the 475 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: next three. Right, they're only five points out of a 476 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: playoff spot. Now that five points is a lot, I get, 477 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: I get that in hockey terms and with the three 478 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: point game and such, but they just basically rage quit. 479 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: They just said we're out, We're done. 480 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: Right, and they were. 481 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: And that's that's I think what goes back to what 482 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 4: we were talking about with Andre Bernet's reaction. They had been 483 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: pushing hard just into the break, they were playing better 484 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: hockey and all this. They were within two points of 485 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: a playoff spot, and there were all these guys that 486 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 4: if they were out, is this guy available? Is this 487 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 4: guy available? Is this guy available? And now in a 488 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 4: span of two days, they lose a couple in a 489 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: row and bang yours over. You're five out and there's 490 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: three or four teams between you and that final spot. 491 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: So it's it is amazing how fast things can change. 492 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 4: And I think it's a it's a it's a fascinating 493 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: time to be would be a fascinating time to be 494 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: a fly on a wall in a GM's office and 495 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 4: be able to listen to all those potential conversations that 496 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 4: this team just got beat now all of a sudden, 497 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: who's a Columbus the other night blew a four goal lead? 498 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: What if they lose that game? They ended up winning 499 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: an overtime. If they lose, they're probably in a spot where, 500 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 4: even though right now they're holding a playoff spot, would 501 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 4: they if they if they get beaten that game and 502 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: all of a sudden are five points out instead of 503 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: two points out. 504 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 5: It's amazing how fast things can change. 505 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: Man. You see the Capitals lose a third or a 506 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: fourth in a row, and you just you're you're a 507 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: you're a might you say, disenfranchised general manager sitting in 508 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: a suite the final horn sounded. Players have just gotten 509 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: back to the dressing room. See that phone start. 510 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: Rigging right well? 511 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 4: And Bill Yeah, And all of a sudden it's through 512 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 4: the bones. And then you start to think about it, 513 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: like if you're in Nashville. Let's say you get in 514 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: and it's a first round eight with Colorado. 515 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a part. 516 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: Of you and you hate to be a defeatist because 517 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: anything can happen in hockey, but it'd be. 518 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 5: Is it really worth it? Is it or would be be. 519 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: Better for the owner land games? 520 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 5: They do? 521 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 3: For sure? 522 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: And that's not a small thing. 523 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: I mean you're talking millions of dollars if you open 524 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: the gates a couple times for home games. 525 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 5: But at the same. 526 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: Time, if you don't take advantage of some expiring contracts 527 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: with a chance to rebuild your system, are you selling 528 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: yourself short for the next six, eight, ten years so 529 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: that you have to take advantage of those opportunities when 530 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: they're there to replenish your farm system. 531 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: Let's do this. 532 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: Let's pause. 533 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: I get a few more Wild and NHL related questions 534 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: for you. It's Anthony Lapanta, your TV voice in the 535 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 3: Minnesota Wild had an off day, but he's back at it. 536 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: A little vocal maintenance for the box is he heads 537 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 3: to Vegas this weekend, a big one with Colorado, some 538 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: fun games around the corner. But we're also watching State 539 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: High School Hockey Tournament. It's himing in Dodge con getting 540 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: after it and it's scoreless with seven and change left 541 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: in the first period at Grand Casino Arena. Hockey heavy 542 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: nine to noon. Right here on the fan, the light 543 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: is over. 544 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 6: The twenty twenty six ms HSL State Boys Hockey Tournament 545 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 6: has arrived. 546 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: Or bring you every heart pounding moment. 547 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 6: Coverage starts this Thursday on the Fan and Cafe and Plus, 548 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 6: as presented by James Hardy, the number one brand of 549 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: sighting in North America. 550 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: Personal foul quipping. 551 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: Hell. 552 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: That is no I. 553 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: Oh good. Class A Quarterfinal. It's the eight v. 554 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: The one Dodge County on the power play right now, 555 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: first period, Foreign change remaining top seeded Hiving Chisholm scoreless 556 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 3: with Dodge County at Grand Casino Arena. How much do 557 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: you dial into the high school tournament on yearly basis? 558 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: He used to call it, of course, he used to 559 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 3: broadcast for it, but now just kind of. 560 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: Chill and enjoy the weekend. 561 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit. It's weird. 562 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: In fact, I had the thought as I was walking 563 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 4: out of the arena last night because because I wasn't 564 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 4: doing the game last night, I went and sat in 565 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: the broadcast booth and it was set up for the 566 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 4: forty five broadcast crew today, and it just it made 567 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: me think about all the years that I spent down there. 568 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: I think it was fifteen years in a row I 569 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: called the tournament either on radio or TV or both, 570 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 4: and it was. But now it's been I believe it's 571 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: been twenty one years. I think two thousand and four 572 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 4: was the last term. I might have called it a 573 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: couple of games here or there for kf AN over 574 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: the years when they would do the final or something. 575 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: So maybe a couple of games in the last few years. 576 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: But we did high School Hockey Night on Fire. I 577 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: love we did, man, That is a that's a painful 578 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 4: thought to think about. 579 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: Actually we love how you're going to get four You're 580 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 3: going to get four games of them tomorrow right here. 581 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: Whether it's the fan or it's the plus, they should 582 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: say as well. 583 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: But I love high school hockey and I do still 584 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 4: follow it. I call the games whenever I can. On 585 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: Hockey Day. It was even just a couple of years ago, 586 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: we tried to bring back high School Hockey Night on 587 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: on fan Duel Sports Network, and I did maybe eight 588 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: or ten of those games, and I told him when 589 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: they were thinking about the project, and I said, look, 590 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: any game where the wild or home and I'm off, 591 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: I'm in, and I just love it. I haven't followed 592 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: the Class eight teams quite as much this year Double 593 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: A I followed a little bit, and part of it 594 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: was because I was doing the the outdoor game on 595 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: for Hockey Day Minnesota, so I was at least a 596 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: little tuned in. I'm excited to see the Double A 597 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 4: Tournament this year because I think the I think the 598 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: top four teams could all legitimately win the tournament. And 599 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: that's not to say any of the four are a 600 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: lock to win in the first round. I think the 601 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: gap has shrunk a little bit this year, where for 602 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 4: a few years there it felt like it was pretty 603 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 4: clear the top couple teams were the top couple. 604 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 5: But now I think. 605 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: When you look at Minnetake, Dina and moorehead moreheads the 606 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: two seed, but those three are the top three seeds 607 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: and I don't know as much about rose Mount as 608 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: the four, but I know they beat a pretty good 609 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: Saint Thomas Academy team in their final. But those top three, 610 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: the games they played against each other this year were terrific. 611 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: Their sectional tournaments were terrific. You had a really high 612 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: scoring team and morehead, you got an Dina team that 613 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: had to win a couple of really close ones in 614 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: their sectional tournament, got a hat trick in the section 615 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: final to beat Wise that love the The minute Taka 616 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: might be the deepest team in the tournament. So I 617 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: think the Double A teams the Double A feel will 618 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: be great, and I usually try to stream it when 619 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: we're on the road. It'll be a little tougher this 620 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 4: weekend because we're in Vegas, so it's the games are 621 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: are because we're a couple of time zones away. Might 622 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: be a little more challenging, but normally when we're in 623 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 4: the press box somewhere, I'll have it streaming and watch it. 624 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: It's we have to be on the road by definition, 625 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: because they're using the Wild's Arena for the games, so 626 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 4: I haven't even had a chance to go down and 627 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: watch them in person. Very often lately, so I'm left 628 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: to stream them during wild broadcast quite often. 629 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: But I do follow it. 630 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I follow. I follow the tournament specifically. 631 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: It's tough with everything we do on the fan to 632 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: pretend that I'm just the elite high school hockey mind. 633 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: But here's what I do now, is that Morehead's got 634 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: a call in on the team. Joey call it. 635 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: I've got two they have exact Yes, they do still 636 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: have two, don't they. Yeah, but Joey, I think he 637 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: was hurt earlier in the year, just an absolute high 638 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: end of high end, and I just I'm thinking Matt Collin. 639 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: It's in the blood. So it's got to be a 640 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: Spuds conversation. 641 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: Well, and I know. 642 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: They've got I looked maybe a week or so ago 643 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: when they were going into their section tournament. I think 644 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: they might have had four twenty goal scorers, maybe it 645 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 4: was twenty five. I think it was twenty goal scorers 646 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: that they had, might be the highest scoring team in 647 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: the tournament. And you look through their season and it's 648 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: a lot of seven to two, eight to three. I mean, 649 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 4: they can score with the best of them, and now 650 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: they'll be challenged by the teams like he died in Taka, 651 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 4: but I know they they've played those teams during the season, 652 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: had good games with them, and I think it's it's 653 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: usually kind of a contrasting style with the way those 654 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: teams play. Usually the teams from the western suburbs are 655 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: a little deeper defensively, have had great goaltending, and sometimes 656 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: Morehead'll come down and have the high end offensive talent 657 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: going all the way back to the days when Matt 658 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: was playing for Morehead and I called the tournament when 659 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: Matt was there, and I remember, I'll never forget his 660 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: dad was coaching and they played d Luth East in 661 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: the tournament, and that was the year that Dave Spiehar 662 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: had hat tricks throughout the tourney. And I remember talking 663 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: to Terry Colin after the game and he Matt Colin 664 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 4: Warren number seven for Morehead, and I walked down. He 665 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: just said he looked at me. He just said seven 666 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: was the best player on the ice, and I was like, 667 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: I know, you're a dad, but man, it was hard 668 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: to argue. He was just such a I loved watching 669 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: him play. He was just such a He played from 670 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: goal line to goal line and you could just tell 671 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: he was going to be a terrific player, went on 672 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: to the unbelievable career that he had in college in 673 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: the NHL. But it was his dad was such a 674 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: proud dad, but also one of my favorite coaches. He 675 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: just was a I'd only see him at the tournament 676 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 4: every year. A couple of times they'd come down for 677 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: holiday tournaments, but every year when he'd come down, he'd 678 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: chat with me like we were lifelong friends. And I 679 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: just loved seeing him back in those days when he 680 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: was coaching. 681 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome, and this year's crop gets the chance 682 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: to make their own memories. Time for a couple more. 683 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: Here with the most thing with Felino, do we know 684 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: how long he's going to be out? How worried? 685 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: Are we well worried anytime that you lose a guy 686 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: that brings what he brings. I know he hasn't had 687 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: the offensive success this year that he's had the last few, 688 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 4: and his games looked a little offul he was fighting 689 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: through some injuries early in the season. This is unrelated 690 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: to that from what I've heard, So, I mean, you're 691 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: always concerned, and you know he's a guy that's a 692 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: tough guy to replace with what he brings on and 693 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 4: off the ice, a physical player, ability to kill penalties, 694 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 4: ability to change games with momentum type shifts. So I 695 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: haven't really pushed too hard. We weren't doing the game 696 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 4: last night, as we've talked about, so I wasn't. We 697 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: didn't have our broadcaster meeting with John Hines, so I 698 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: haven't really heard much. I'll probably find out more this 699 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: weekend when we go to Vegas from him. But it's 700 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: anytime you get a at this point in the season 701 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: that comes out of the lineup for an injury, you're concerned. 702 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: I don't think from what it sounded like, they thought 703 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: it was something that was going to hold them out 704 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: that would impact postseason. Yeah, so and the Wilder. They've 705 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: got a little bit of luxury in that you can 706 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 4: say whatever you want. They're going to be in the playoffs. 707 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 4: Everybody knows they're going to be in the playoffs. There's 708 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: almost no way that mathematically enough teams could pass them 709 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 4: to knock them out. These games down the stretch are 710 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: critical if they have aspirations of getting whole ice in 711 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 4: the first round or even catching Colorado and winning the division, 712 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: which they're still an outside shot. This weekend probably tells 713 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: you whether or not that's possible. 714 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: They need two. 715 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 4: Wins this weekend they do to have that even be 716 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: within the relevel possibility. 717 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: Last thing for you, and it was actually related to 718 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: your answer there, John Hines. You know when we talked 719 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: about the Olympics and experience and thing. 720 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: You know, hey, Matt. 721 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: Boldie's confidence sky high off of that their World League 722 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: goal in the gold medal game, and you know, taking 723 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: bits and pieces and growing and maturing and learning from 724 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: the tournament. What does a guy like John Hines potentially 725 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 3: learn from that experience as he eventually comes back to 726 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: the bench. We can joke about the PK, but just 727 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: in general, just what a guy like that might take 728 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: as he moves forward leading the charge here. 729 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 4: It's an interesting question, and I think it's a There's 730 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 4: a couple prongs to the answer, and one is I'll 731 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 4: start with the players, because West Wallas is the one 732 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 4: who brought it up to me the other day, and 733 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 4: I had thought about it, but not in the way 734 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 4: he put it it. When you look at this wild 735 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: team that we've been talking about for a decade, that 736 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: what's it going to take to get over the hump? 737 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 4: Win in the first round and advance in the playoffs. 738 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: This core hasn't done it right. I mean, there are 739 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 4: a few guys who are a part of those series 740 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: wins against Colorado and Saint Louis, but not very many. 741 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: Most of this corps has been knocked up out in 742 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: the first round every time they've been there, and now 743 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: all of this, and they've tried to bring in veteran 744 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: guys who have won different ways to winning culture inside 745 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: that room. Now you've got guys in Hugh's Boldy Faber 746 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 4: who won wasn't a Stanley Cup, but it was a 747 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 4: gold medal, and I'm not sure there's anything closer to 748 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: winning a Stanley Cup than a gold medal. So he 749 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: said that's going to bring a little swagger and confidence 750 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 4: in there. 751 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 5: And now I go back to your question. 752 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: I think when you have the coach that's gone through it, 753 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: it brings the same. 754 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 5: Kind of swagger, but also the same kind of. 755 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: Confidence in knowing what it takes watching another coach how 756 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 4: he handles an intermission talk with teams. In a gold 757 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: medal game, they had to play three elimination games and 758 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 4: two of them went to overtime. That's essentially three game 759 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 4: sevens in a row and you had to go to 760 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: overtime in two of them. How did guys handle it? 761 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 4: How did the other coaches handle the interaction with the players, 762 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: how did they handle game time adjustments? 763 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 5: Those kind of things. 764 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: And now I'll make it specific to John Hines because 765 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: I think that's one of his main strengths. When he 766 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 4: was out of a job last he went and spent 767 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: time with other coaches just to see how they did things, 768 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: see if there was anything he could learn to make 769 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 4: himself better. And there aren't a lot of coaches who 770 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: do that kind of thing. He took trips out to 771 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: spend a week with different teams and just guys that 772 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: he knew from his time in the US development program. 773 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: So he's had different experiences as a coach than most 774 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: head coaches in the NHL. 775 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 5: He's had. 776 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 4: He's not the most experienced head coach in the league, 777 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 4: but in terms of overall coaching experience, he's got to 778 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: be right up there. And I just think he's a 779 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 4: cerebral guy with that where it's a no stone unturned 780 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 4: kind of look. So now he's been and Bill Garran, 781 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 4: same thing. He's around all the other general managers in 782 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: all these meetings building your roster. They both take things 783 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: from these other guys, and John Hines is a sponge 784 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: when it comes to that stuff, and so I really 785 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: think it's a It might not be something you can quantify, 786 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 4: but it's very real. I think it's going to help 787 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 4: this club in so many ways to have been a 788 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: part of that, from GM to coach to players. There 789 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 4: aren't many other teams that had guys at every level 790 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 4: that were a part of that gold medal that right 791 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 4: now are looking at heading down into the Stanley Cup 792 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 4: playoffs as contenders with guys that just experienced what they did. 793 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 794 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for hanging out with me today anytime, and 795 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: excited to see you back on TV in Las Vegas. 796 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: It'll be a fun weekend and we do need both. 797 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 6: Let's go. 798 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 2: Let's get four points. 799 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 5: Why not? I see no reason not to. 800 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 3: That's Anthony Lapanta TV, VOX Minnesota Wild catch him again 801 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 3: FanDuel Sports Network North and next up for the Wild. 802 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: An extra data to rest, take a breath, but they're 803 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: at Vegas Friday and then Colorado the next two. 804 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: We are going to be fun. Final segment nine to 805 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: noon is next. 806 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: Big thanks not just Parker Fox, Alex stay Lock, of course, 807 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: Johnny Krazinski, Wild Coach John Hines, but during this most 808 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 3: recent stretch Wild TV Vox Anthony Lapanta in studio, Thanks 809 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: as always for providing some some content and some fun conversations. 810 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 3: Nine to noon, pa is going to be back tomorrow 811 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 3: and heavy Talkers there, Ben Lieber expecting him in the studio, 812 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: Olivia King, we're gonna break down the high school hockey tournament. 813 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: I got a text from from Jim and Golden Valley. 814 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 3: It'd be nice if you would give a warning before 815 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: you give the hockey score. Some of us record it 816 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 3: and we'll watch it when we get home from work. 817 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: Maybe just a five second spoiler alert. And then he 818 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 3: said he was changing the station. So I'm sorry to 819 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: Jim and Golden Valley. I can tell you we're watching. 820 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: It's in the first intermission, hibbing Chisholm in Dodge County. 821 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: I guess I'll just tell you that it's uh, it's competitive. 822 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: It's competitive at three? Is that fair? Is that a spoiler? 823 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 6: I think there's probably more people driving around that want 824 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 6: to live. 825 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 5: Update than than anything. 826 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: Not a dvring. But that's just my two five seconds. 827 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, Jim and all involved five four three two 828 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: one scoreless at the break and it has been evenly 829 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: matched age and now you're free to listen again. But 830 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 3: but with Lieberan in the mix tomorrow, we will continue 831 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: to break down by the way, I was out of 832 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: my mind earlier, the Kyler Murray thing. He still owed 833 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: money from the Cardinals, So why wouldn't you just sign? 834 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 3: It's all Offset signed for the veteran minimum with the 835 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: team of his choice Cards on the hook, and uh, 836 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: maybe he's in maybe he's in purple in a week, 837 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 3: and we're gonna have to continue to uh to work 838 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: our way through that a week in advance. As they said, 839 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 3: it feels like it's either Kyler or it's Gino Smith. 840 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: What a world, Vikings fans. 841 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: That's what we have to look forward to as we 842 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 3: continue through this thing. But again, thank you so much, 843 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 3: not just to Brett Producing, but all our guests today. 844 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the fan. PA back in 845 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: the saddle tomorrow and maybe some more Minnesota Wild conversation 846 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 2: along with Vikings talkers as they are heating up ahead 847 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: of free agency legal tampering period. As we say, the 848 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: oxymoron that that is and Olivia King High School Hockey 849 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: Tournament and play for Brett. I'm Nordo in for PA. 850 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: Have an awesome afternoon. The grum is next. 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