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Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the

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Speaker 1: house Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app every week

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Speaker 1: your guide to better understanding that place where you live.

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Speaker 1: Every home, my friend, every home has a path forward.

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Speaker 1: Once you see it, that's when everything changes. And that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm here to help you with today. On the show,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have some Halloween fun today, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be useful, practical, interesting, fun, entertaining everything.

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Speaker 2: It's an everything show.

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Speaker 1: Literally, we're usually it's only just one of those, maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe just one if if any of them at all.

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Speaker 1: Today on the show, here's what I've titled the show.

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Speaker 1: I'll just tell you it's how not to live in

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Speaker 1: a haunted house. That's what we're talking about today. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna split our time today on the program between

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Speaker 1: using that little nuance to talk to you about stuff

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Speaker 1: that makes weird noises and disturbing.

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Speaker 2: Behaviors in your home.

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Speaker 1: You know, the toilet that sounds like somebody's using it,

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Speaker 1: it's hissing it three in the morning, the floors that squeak,

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Speaker 1: the weird sounds, the popping, grunting, groaning sounds coming from

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Speaker 1: the attic, the scurrying that you hear overhead in the attic,

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Speaker 1: like something's alive up there it is, and all of that.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna just take all of that goofiness and

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Speaker 1: turn it into a program where I get to tell

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Speaker 1: you some tips and some tricks about getting rid of

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Speaker 1: those noises. But but we're gonna share that time with

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Speaker 1: my very special in studio guest. I mean very special.

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Speaker 1: My kid's sister is here, a kid. I'm just you know,

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Speaker 1: we're just embracing We're embracing our youngness. Darcy Staniforth, my

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Speaker 1: kid's sister. She is a professor at cal State Fullerton,

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Speaker 1: and she also is on the side a lover of

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Speaker 1: all things paranormal. I'm gonna let her introduce her full

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Speaker 1: bio to you so you all know. But Darcy sitting

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Speaker 1: across the table from me this morning, Darcy is the

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Speaker 1: one who is actually going to be hosting our VIP

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Speaker 1: House Whisper Ghost Tour tomorrow night at the Kellogg House

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Speaker 1: at the Heritage Museum of Orange County. And she is

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Speaker 1: an expert on all things Kellogg House and everything that's

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Speaker 1: going on there, including the alleged paranormal activity.

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Speaker 2: I just say alleged because I just want everybody to

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Speaker 2: keep an open mind.

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Speaker 1: And so hey, babe, and by the way, yes, I

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Speaker 1: will be referring to through the show as babe because

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Speaker 1: she is my sister.

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Speaker 2: So please no calls to hr dars. Love you. I'm

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Speaker 2: so glad that you're here.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad that I'm here.

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Speaker 4: This is always fun to do because you're not gonna

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Speaker 4: have me on for really any other.

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Speaker 1: Nope, nothing else, nothing else. You will be here for

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Speaker 1: exactly zero home improvement advice.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Now I'll just like, don't do that, don't you.

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Speaker 2: My brother, Oh, my brother. That's it. That's the end.

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Speaker 4: My brother is either the guy or he's got a guy.

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Speaker 4: That's what it's gonna be, exactly. But yeah, I'm really excited.

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited for our tour tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. I mean, your tours are awesome.

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Speaker 1: You get all dressed up in period Victorian war. We

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Speaker 1: love that's still happening. You're still doing that. And I

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Speaker 1: can show up like in just sweats. It's just like

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Speaker 1: Laker sweats.

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Speaker 3: I'm just the most apathetic ghost somebody.

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Speaker 2: You're like, hey, what's it?

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Speaker 4: You know, what's going on everyone, This is fine. Let

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Speaker 4: me tell you about some ghosts.

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Speaker 3: Now, we know.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some ghost hunter shows that they're never concerned

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Speaker 4: No, but they're also not concerned with yelling at the beyond.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna yell at the beyond. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: Ghost if maybe if people wore better clothes, they'd get

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Speaker 1: more responsive, you know what, especially older ghosts, you think

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Speaker 1: if you're talking to like Victorian age ghosts, dress up.

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Speaker 4: Right, give yourself of a haircut, put on a tie. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: And I'm also going to tell you that, uh, it's

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Speaker 4: what I call brost hunting, like a bunch of bros.

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Speaker 2: Just that's true. That is so true, bros hunting.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Settle down? Like you, you would not have.

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Speaker 4: A good reaction if a bunch of people came in

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Speaker 3: Oh? Why are you here? Like, please stop yelling at me.

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Speaker 1: I see the ghosts in the back room. They're like, Selven,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking to them. I have no interest in

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Speaker 1: talking to them. You think someone could wear a cravat.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, especially a cravat.

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Speaker 4: So for those of you who have one ticket so far,

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Speaker 4: make sure to bring your cravat tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get you want to get some

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Speaker 4: Action, a cravat, perhaps a petticoat, a bustle.

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Speaker 1: A waistcoat for the gentleman, Yes, a good waist that's

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Speaker 1: a vest. By the way, a waistcoat is a vest.

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Speaker 1: It's not a coat that you tie around your waist.

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Speaker 3: No, that's called your sweatshirt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So no, no, please, you don't. You do not

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Speaker 4: Do not dress I will be costuming. I will be

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Speaker 4: in full Victorian morning tomorrow night. The rest of you

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Speaker 1: On that note, yes you, this goes beyond just a

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Speaker 1: subtle interest in the paranormal. You in your studies, in

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Speaker 1: your research, in your degree program. It's been studies on death,

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Speaker 1: about death, denial about you know, it's an American studies thing.

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Speaker 2: Just give everybody your bio.

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Speaker 4: Sure, So, my academic field is American studies, which is

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Speaker 4: the how and why of American history and culture, and

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Speaker 4: my deep dive I do work on race and ethnicity,

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Speaker 4: gender and sexuality, ideals and institutions. But my deep dive

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Speaker 4: is death dying in Greek in American culture. So I

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Speaker 4: do a lot of work around not just death nile

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Speaker 4: avoidant culture for sure. I've done a TED talk on death,

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Speaker 4: grief and the college student and how we can better

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Speaker 4: right now I'm working on a proposal for a project

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Speaker 4: around how we can use haunted tourism to engage death

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Speaker 4: education because in a really simple way, and I know

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Speaker 3: Listeners might be I guess my George he norri listeners.

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Speaker 4: Would be, if you're listening to art Bell, please call

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Speaker 4: us because I want to know how you're contacting them.

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Speaker 4: But our coast to coast listeners, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: Right, George, everybody who listens to George nor is asleep

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, that's because they stayed up all night

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Speaker 1: that's really fair. That's really fair.

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Speaker 2: They stayed up all night, so your board.

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Speaker 3: Operator doesn't have to be like, what did you do?

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Speaker 1: What did you do exactly? Please know coast to coast

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Speaker 1: love about that's what our VIP guests. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be giving away tickets every hour during

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Speaker 1: the show today. Those will be the last of our tickets.

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Speaker 1: It's a limited group because there's only so many people

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Speaker 1: But we'll be talking about its architecture today. But it's history.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I love about you, the way you

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Speaker 1: do this tour, because so much of it is about

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Speaker 1: the way that Victorians Americans just one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago, the way they faced and dealt with death

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and you know, Victorian death culture is something that

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Speaker 1: But that might have been the photo the only one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: back we will continue more great stuff on the way

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Speaker 1: your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, my friend, and welcome to the program. It

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Speaker 1: is always a privilege and a pleasure to be with

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Speaker 1: you on a Sunday morning, especially a beautiful Sunday morning

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Speaker 1: here in southern California. I don't know where it is,

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Speaker 1: Thanks today things are looking good. I hope wherever you

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Speaker 1: Friday is Halloween. This is the part. This is actually

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Speaker 1: the last. I cannot believe this is our last show

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Speaker 1: in October. Where did October go? I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: will be November first, which is freaky weird to me,

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Speaker 1: fun with it. So we're talking about how not to

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Speaker 1: for a long long time, literally deeply loved. My kid's sister,

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Speaker 1: Darcy standing Forth, is sitting across the table from me.

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Speaker 1: She is an American Studies scholar at cal State Fullerton,

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Speaker 1: but she also is involved with Haunted OC And I

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Speaker 1: know you gave you the rest of your bio before,

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Speaker 1: but tell us about Haunted OC. Who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: who are sponsoring the the VIP House Whisper Ghost tour

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Speaker 1: of the Kellogg House tomorrow night. It's tomorrow night and

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Speaker 1: we're giving tickets away during the show today as well,

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Speaker 1: But dars So, tell us about hanted OC So.

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Speaker 4: Hanted o C is Orange County's longest running ghost tours,

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Speaker 4: locally owned, locally run, and our focus is haunted historical

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Speaker 4: ghost tours. So you're going to get good history, and

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Speaker 4: And so we have tours. I do the Santa Anat

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Speaker 3: And a pirate voice. Okay, you're welcome everyone, all right.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get serious about some house stuff, right, and

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna talk about the Kellogg House. Yep, this

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Speaker 1: kits come with like, you know, a dozen screws, because

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Speaker 1: you just stay faithful to the process. So you fix

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Speaker 1: the one squeak. When the next squeak occurs, deal with

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Speaker 1: that one. You might be chasing squeaks for you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks until but I promise you eventually

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Speaker 1: you will have addressed the whole area and your squeak

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Speaker 1: free now. And that is how you deal with an

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Speaker 1: old traditional tongue and groove three quarter inch you know,

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Speaker 1: hardwood oak floor that has been nailed down to the

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Speaker 1: subfloor below in its original application. Problem solved. No more

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Speaker 1: squeaky floors at night now. Also take into consideration if

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Speaker 1: you have teenagers that maybe you don't want to fix

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Speaker 1: the squeaks. Maybe you have grown accustom to having that

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Speaker 1: little alarm system that uh when two in the morning,

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Speaker 1: oh h, what.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Fix the squeak? Might have kids running a muck out

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Speaker 1: of control in your life. Just saying, just saying.

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Speaker 4: So if your teenager suddenly takes a real interest in

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Speaker 4: home improvement.

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly, You're like, why why do you want to

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Speaker 1: fix the squeaky floor?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why? Jimmy?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're calling him Jimmy at this point anyway,

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Speaker 1: He's James, James, James. You probably, if you're mad enough,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna use his middle middle name. Yeah exactly. I

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Speaker 1: only hear my middle name when I'm in trouble growing up.

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Speaker 1: That's the only time it ever gets pulled out. Dan

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Speaker 1: Allen like, oh geez, what now?

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Speaker 2: What now?

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Speaker 1: Well, all right, Joel, when we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: flip over and we're gonna talk to Darcy about the

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Speaker 1: Kellogg House and some interesting things that happened when it

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Speaker 1: was built as well. Okay, your Home with Dean Sharp,

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Speaker 1: the House Whisperer.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: Every home deserves great design, including your home, your home,

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Speaker 1: especially your home. Why especially your home because that's where

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Speaker 1: you live, my friend, and so to live in a

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Speaker 1: beautifully designed home, that's what really, you know, transsitions a

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Speaker 1: house to a home when it is custom designed, when

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Speaker 1: it's custom fit for you.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that going to cost a lot of money? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I can't afford to live in. Everybody can afford to

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Speaker 1: live in a custom home. Custom and luxury. These are

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Speaker 1: two completely separate categories. Don't conflate them together. Okay, custom

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean luxury, luxury doesn't mean custom. There are plenty

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Speaker 1: of luxury homes out there that are just cookie cutter

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Speaker 1: luxury homes, and there are a lot of custom homes

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Speaker 1: out there that are humble, modest, beautiful homes. I live

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Speaker 1: in one. I live in a little cottage. It's like

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Speaker 1: a thirteen hundred square foot house. Nobody's jaw drops when

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Speaker 1: they walk into my house now, Like, oh, the ceiling heights,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the eight foot ceilings.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're referring to.

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Speaker 1: But it's a lovely home. It's a custom home. Tina

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Speaker 1: and I have custom fitted to us, and your home

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Speaker 1: can be the same. And that's what I'm here every

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Speaker 1: weekend to help you with. Right now, though we are

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Speaker 1: having some fun for Halloween, I'm talking about stuff that

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Speaker 1: makes weird sounds in your house and how you can

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Speaker 1: deal with that. But I also have my very special

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Speaker 1: guest in studio with me sitting across the table, her

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Speaker 1: lovely face. My sister, my kid's sister, Darcy Staniforth, who

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Speaker 1: is a professor at cal State Fullerton, also involved with

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Speaker 1: Haunted OC down in the OC and also is going

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Speaker 1: to be our docent for our VIP tour our tour

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Speaker 1: guide of the Kellogg House tomorrow night. Dars, tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the Kellogg House.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's hard to just tell you a little Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: I'll try. I'll try.

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Speaker 4: The beautiful Kellogg House was built in eighteen ninety eight

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Speaker 4: by Hiram Clay Kellogg or not not.

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Speaker 2: The cereal guy. No, different, different family.

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Speaker 3: Different Kellogg.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the cereal guy.

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Speaker 3: He's got some stories. Those aren't the stories I tell.

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Speaker 2: You, Okay.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: If for my gardening folks out there, Kellogg of gardening fame.

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Speaker 1: So if they know if, yes, if you know like

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Speaker 1: Kellogg fertilizer and mulch.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's the Kellogg family.

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Speaker 4: We Talkellogg family and they're still involved with the house. Yes,

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Speaker 4: so they Hiram built the house for his wife Helen,

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Speaker 4: his second wife Helen, And we'll learn about the first

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Speaker 4: wife a little bit tomorrow night as well. And it

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Speaker 4: is a very custom home. It is a queen and

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Speaker 4: Victorian with neo classical elements.

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Speaker 1: Yes, which I was happy to point out to the museum,

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Speaker 1: and I pointed out on every tour it got that

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Speaker 1: correct every tour.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, just so you know, my brother would like

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Speaker 3: you to know that this is a queen and Victorian

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Speaker 3: with neoclassical elements, not a neoclassical home.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not even don't even think that.

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Speaker 3: Don't even think that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a nerd.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not a nerd about Yeah. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 3: guess what everyone were related?

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Speaker 1: So eighteen ninety eight eight, so it's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty seven years old. This, Yes, that's an old homes

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Speaker 1: or the West Coast. That's ancient.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. People can't even believe the history they're experiencing. Uh.

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Speaker 4: But the Kellogg House had a lot of modern amenities

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Speaker 4: for the time. It had two bathrooms, the first indoor

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Speaker 4: bathroom in all of Santa Anna, which is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: It had not a refrigerant based air conditioning system, but

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Speaker 4: a forced air system.

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Speaker 1: By the way, okay, I'm just going to cut you

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Speaker 1: off here just for s Yeah, because I got to

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Speaker 1: throw in my trivia bits when when Darcy says that

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Speaker 1: it's ahead of its time because it had indoor plumbing,

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Speaker 1: indoor bathroom in eighteen ninety eight. Okay, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to throw out this little trivia question for y'all. Think

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Speaker 1: about this. Tell me in the what percentage of homes

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Speaker 1: in the in nineteen twenty Okay, in nineteen twenty, twenty

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Speaker 1: two years later in America? What percentage of homes had

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Speaker 1: indoor bathrooms?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: You gotta figure in your head, all right, are you ready?

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Speaker 1: One percent? One percent of American homes twenty years later, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: had indoor bathrooms. This guy ahead of his time, all right.

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Speaker 1: I just had to throw that in there.

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Speaker 4: Now, ahead of his time. And here's the thing. I

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Speaker 4: talk about that on the tour a little bit. And

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Speaker 4: I had a guest recently tell me that their aunt

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Speaker 4: and uncle in rural Texas did not get indoor plumbing

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Speaker 4: until nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Two last month, pretty close.

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Speaker 4: Comparatively, so, yeah, so very ahead of his time. Used

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Speaker 4: adobe bricks as kind of a form of insulation. Really

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Speaker 4: made this home. I mean, it was Helen's wedding gift.

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Speaker 4: This is really Hiram built this for Iram. But he

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Speaker 4: was the first civil engineer in all of Santa Anna.

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Speaker 4: And talk about someone who had an incredible design eye

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Speaker 4: and thought very much like a ship captain, as folks

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Speaker 4: will see tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: He used space incredibly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, so Hiram was a civil engineer, civil engineer. And

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Speaker 1: actually if you live in actually you live all over

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Speaker 1: the La Basin, you owe a lot of your daily

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Speaker 1: commute and daily life to Hiram's work because he laid

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Speaker 1: out like Carson, like most of the major streets in Carson.

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Speaker 2: Am I right about that.

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Speaker 4: He designed the city of Corona. Corona designs the city

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Speaker 4: of Elsinore.

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Speaker 3: Don't get mad at him for the ninety one freeway

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Speaker 3: and it's modern configuration, but he designed the ninety one freeway.

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Speaker 3: He's the father of grand A, all these things.

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Speaker 2: All right, they're playing us out. We got to go

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Speaker 2: to a break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we will continue to talk about

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Speaker 1: hi Rum Kellogg the civil engineer, and his custom home

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Speaker 1: and his fixation with tall ships and how that made

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Speaker 1: it into the home he designed for his family. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you are home with Dean Sharp the house whisper don't

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Speaker 1: go away. This has been Home with Dean Sharp, the

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Speaker 1: House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast on KFI AM

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Speaker 1: six forty every Saturday morning from six to eight Pacific time,

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