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Speaker 2: Lance Pacallister along with Dave lapham Man, do we have
Speaker 2: some things to sort through? And feel good of a
Speaker 2: mini by following a victory on Thursday night? Nothing like
Speaker 2: waking up Sunday morning and having the realization, Ah, that's right,
Speaker 2: they've already won this week. And David, I gotta think
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a stretch here when I say
Speaker 2: Thursday night we witnessed the best all around performance of
Speaker 2: the season by this football team.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Lance, I think in all three phases,
Speaker 3: I thought all three phases contributed, you know, Offense, defense,
Speaker 3: special teams. Everybody made plays. Every phase made plays. Every
Speaker 3: player that played in those phases made plays on the offense, defense,
Speaker 3: and special team. So I agree. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: that it was the most complete game that the team
Speaker 3: has played this season, one of the more complete games
Speaker 3: they've played in the last few years. So I think
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor has to be pretty policed with what he saw.
Speaker 2: Point how nice was it after? I think it was
Speaker 2: the day seventy five, his return on Thursday night, to
Speaker 2: have Joe Burrow back, certainly a little bit of rust
Speaker 2: earlier that he shook off. But man, when you insert
Speaker 2: him into this football team and onto the field, you
Speaker 2: just marvel at the impact he has, no question.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is the unquestioned leader of the pack.
Speaker 3: He's the man, and he plays that way. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen. He
Speaker 3: understands everything about that position. His mechanics, his techniques are
Speaker 3: simply marvelous. They're they're just high, high level. He has
Speaker 3: a great i Q for the game of football. He
Speaker 3: understands football, he knows it cold.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: It seems like he was born to play football, he
Speaker 3: was blessed to play football. And Uh, the team responds
Speaker 3: to him. I mean he That's that's the definition of leader.
Speaker 3: You know, what do you what? What do the other
Speaker 3: guys do when you're a part of it? And uh,
Speaker 3: is there a noticeable decline when you're not? And the
Speaker 3: answers yes in both cases. So I mean, Joe, Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow is the straw that stirs to drink. There's no
Speaker 3: question about that. And there was some rust and dust,
Speaker 3: no question about it. But I thought in the second
Speaker 3: half he had he had knocked most of that off,
Speaker 3: and I thought that he played, you know, really good
Speaker 3: solid football. He was playing football more of the way
Speaker 3: that we're a custom to seeing Joe Borrow play the
Speaker 3: game of football.
Speaker 2: Well here from Joe Burrow a little bit later on
Speaker 2: will break down more of his performance and things that
Speaker 2: jumped out before we're done tonight. Another thing that jumps out, man,
Speaker 2: You look and see the time of possession, almost thirty
Speaker 2: nine minutes to twenty one minutes, right, eighty plays run
Speaker 2: by the Bengals to fifty seven by the Ravens. Holy cow,
Speaker 2: that's you're gonna win football games when you do.
Speaker 3: That, you are, I mean, that's basically playing keep away, yes,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, remember we used to play that
Speaker 3: as kids, you know, I keep away, if you make
Speaker 3: a play, you keep the ball, you know, And so
Speaker 3: that that's staggering that played. Discrepancy differential is not common
Speaker 3: in the National Football League, and that translated to a
Speaker 3: big time of possession differential as well. And I think
Speaker 3: the big reason for it was the Bengals ran the
Speaker 3: ball so well, you know. And both teams did run
Speaker 3: the football, so the clock was definitely moving, but the
Speaker 3: Bengals ran it so effectively, and and and Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: completed a high percent of his passes, so the clock
Speaker 3: wasn't stopping, you know. And you know, you make that
Speaker 3: little short intermediate throw, complete the football move the change
Speaker 3: clock keeps running. So the Bengals did a good job
Speaker 3: of giving less time for the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson to respond to answer to things. And then you
Speaker 3: start to press. The natural thing to do is start
Speaker 3: to press because I'm gonna how many more possessives am
Speaker 3: I gonna have? I don't know what I mean, when
Speaker 3: are they gonna give us the football back? You know?
Speaker 3: And you start to start to worry about those kind
Speaker 3: of things for sure. So I thought they did a
Speaker 3: good job on Lamar Jackson. He's obviously a you know,
Speaker 3: a multi tool quarterback. He's almost like a running back
Speaker 3: quarterback in one body, the way he can run the football,
Speaker 3: the way his foot speed. He was hindered obviously by
Speaker 3: you know, by his injury, his lower body injury. Both
Speaker 3: quarterbacks were not one, but I thought both quarterbacks really
Speaker 3: led their football teams and operated at a pretty good level.
Speaker 2: Boy, you talk about a defense being opportunistic and forcing turnovers,
Speaker 2: that old saying turnovers seem to come in bunches. Well
Speaker 2: there was a budge turnovers on Thursday, and we're talking, Dave.
Speaker 2: They hold the Ravens to fourteen points in their home stadium.
Speaker 2: That's tough to do.
Speaker 3: It is it is? And they scored thirty two, and
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's amazing. I mean they could have scored.
Speaker 3: They had four fumble recoveries, in an interception, five takeaways.
Speaker 3: I mean that would normally translate to forty five fifty points.
Speaker 3: You know, so thirty two. It's like it's good, but
Speaker 3: it's not. Guys weren't let's put it this way. In
Speaker 3: the locker room, guys weren't all fired up about it,
Speaker 3: about the performance after the game offensively, because they felt
Speaker 3: like they left a lot of meat on the bone
Speaker 3: because of that turnover differential. They felt like that should
Speaker 3: have been a wider margin of victory.
Speaker 2: Well, let's remember a week ago, we were sitting right
Speaker 2: here in the final segment or so, we were talking
Speaker 2: about the Ravens and how they had turned around their defense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the first five weeks of the season they'd given
Speaker 2: up one hundred and seventy seven points, more than any
Speaker 2: five week period in history. But in the previous six
Speaker 2: going into Thursday night, they had not allowed twenty points
Speaker 2: in a game, and the Bengals getting for thirty two
Speaker 2: and as you alluded to, should have had more. They
Speaker 2: did a number on that on a really good Ravens defense.
Speaker 3: They really did. And again I think the big key
Speaker 3: was how well they ran the football, and as a
Speaker 3: result of wund they controlled the line of scrimmage. I thought,
Speaker 3: for the most part that the Bengals controlled the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage more than the Baltimore Ravens did. I mean,
Speaker 3: the Ravens did their share of damage, they always do,
Speaker 3: but I thought that really that the offensive and defensive
Speaker 3: lines I thought played their best game together. At the
Speaker 3: same time in the same football game as they have
Speaker 3: all season long.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing that I still look back on.
Speaker 2: I looked at it again this morning. I said, man,
Speaker 2: it is right. The more I look at it, I said,
Speaker 2: it's actually correct. Derrick Henry on the opening drive at
Speaker 2: a twenty eight yard carry, right, He carried five times
Speaker 2: in the first half and ten times for the game,
Speaker 2: and they won possession into the third quarter. That was
Speaker 2: still a twelve seven game. That was like the Ravens
Speaker 2: were behind by three scores and they just didn't run
Speaker 2: Derick Henry.
Speaker 3: Thank you telling you. I'll guarantee you that Harbaugh is
Speaker 3: lamenting that fact right now. I mean that that that
Speaker 3: to me when you look at that football game and
Speaker 3: the score and all the circumstances, and if you didn't
Speaker 3: watch it, you don't really have a total understanding. It
Speaker 3: was mind boggling. We were surprised. I remember mentioning to
Speaker 3: dan On here, it's like, Derrick Henry's got five carries
Speaker 3: right now, John carried the ball five times. I mean,
Speaker 3: this guy can punish you. This guy can wear you down.
Speaker 3: That's the thing he physically wears on you. And as
Speaker 3: in the second half of the football game. Man, your
Speaker 3: defense is definitely fatigued, you know, and just by stopping
Speaker 3: that big old horse, and they decided not to do
Speaker 3: it for whatever reason. And I don't I don't know
Speaker 3: if they outdoted themselves. You know, they're trying to be
Speaker 3: uh yeah, yeah, let's let's uh, let's let's you know,
Speaker 3: show them a wrinkle of two that that they're not expecting.
Speaker 3: And man, that that was a huge miss not to
Speaker 3: run Derek Henry more than they And.
Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if Lamar was Lamar, you could
Speaker 2: entertain the conversation. But when Lamar clearly isn't Lamar, and
Speaker 2: Derek carries ten times for sixty yard, I mean that's
Speaker 2: six yards of carry. Think of what he did more carries.
Speaker 2: It just I mean, if you're a Ravens fans had
Speaker 2: to be melting down after the game looking at Dad.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you look at the Lamar Jackson carried the
Speaker 3: ball too much, Yes, because he had to because of pressure.
Speaker 3: A lot of his carries they weren't you know, scripted,
Speaker 3: they weren't designed. They were like, man, pressure, I got
Speaker 3: to climb the pocket. I got to try to make
Speaker 3: something out of nothing. Here, or I got to get
Speaker 3: out of pocket, get to the perimeter. Then of course
Speaker 3: they had the design rollouts and the design nakeds and
Speaker 3: things like that, which also led to rushing yards. But
Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you that the offensive game plan was not
Speaker 3: designed the way it unfolded.
Speaker 2: We'll get into the the AFC North in greater detail
Speaker 2: later on in this hour, but a quick thought, the
Speaker 2: Bengals clearly turned in the best performance in the division
Speaker 2: of this week in football. The Bengals get help from
Speaker 2: the Bills yesterday, who dominated the Steelers and Dave. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you look at the standings and you say,
Speaker 2: all right, it won't won't be easy, but it's certainly
Speaker 2: not impossible.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, best record is six and six. I mean,
Speaker 3: the the tie for first place Baltimore and Pittsburgh they're
Speaker 3: both six and six. That is unbelievable. And the Bengals
Speaker 3: are what three and one in the division? Yep. So
Speaker 3: I mean they could literally, you know, finish five and
Speaker 3: one in the division, and that is a very high
Speaker 3: tie breaker. I mean that's the one that's the first
Speaker 3: thing they look at, Well, how'd you do in your
Speaker 3: own division? Five and one? Pretty good. So if they can,
Speaker 3: if they can't crawl back to five hundred or better,
Speaker 3: go nine to eight. I think nine is the magic number.
Speaker 3: They gotta win nine football games to make the playoffs
Speaker 3: and then let the tiebreakers do their thing, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Buckle up five weeks to go. We'll take our first
Speaker 2: time out and continue much more to get to later on.
Speaker 2: Jeff Hoopson's going to join us in our second hour.
Speaker 2: We've got so much to sort through from a thirty
Speaker 2: two to fourteen win on Thursday Night football and a
Speaker 2: look ahead of those Buffalo Bills on Sunday. He is
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, a Lance McAllister. It's Bengals on and the
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Speaker 2: Let's keep moving along on this Monday night tem at
Speaker 2: Bengals Football. Here's the plan from a programming standpoint. At
Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour, we're going to break away.
Speaker 2: It'll be Dan and Terry with UC basketball coverage beginning
Speaker 2: at six thirty after the news on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: We'll continue on on ESPN fifteen thirty until nine o'clock
Speaker 2: tonight with all things related to those Cincinnati Bengals winners
Speaker 2: thirty two fourteen over the Baltimore Ravens. Dave, you talked
Speaker 2: about the run game. I don't want to get to
Speaker 2: that in just a second, but it just popped into
Speaker 2: my head. And we'll ask Jeff Hobson about this, because
Speaker 2: he wrote about it extensively.
Speaker 3: What was it like?
Speaker 2: Give me the scouting report. What was like sitting on
Speaker 2: a tarmac in a plane for five and a half
Speaker 2: hours waiting to fly to Baltimore because mechanical issues with
Speaker 2: the plane.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 3: You're thinking, there's better things I could be doing with
Speaker 3: my life right now. You're just sitting there and and
Speaker 3: you have no control of your own destiny. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like it's totally it's totally controlled by outside forces,
Speaker 3: and uh, man, it is. It's a it's an empty feeling,
Speaker 3: it's a sick feeling. Then you know, every half hour
Speaker 3: we'll be uh, we'll be the party. You know we're no,
Speaker 3: we're not, you know, we're not. Quit playing with us,
Speaker 3: put messing with us. And finally Zach Zach took control
Speaker 3: and uh got a Delta employee to you know, get
Speaker 3: another plane and he got on and said, Okay, we're
Speaker 3: the planeing, we're getting off the plane, get your baggage
Speaker 3: and uh and let's get on another plane. Get the
Speaker 3: hell out of here. Man loose translation, very loose.
Speaker 2: Yes, and again Jeff Hobson is gonna join us in
Speaker 2: the next hour. He wrote about it and and the
Speaker 2: herculean effort turned in by Jeff Brickner, the director of operations,
Speaker 2: and he got a game ball as a result. And uh,
Speaker 2: there are stories of the ballroom and turkey at one am, and.
Speaker 3: Oh so much to get to with Whicheff.
Speaker 2: Just an amazingly Nightmara scene that actually was handled well
Speaker 2: on everybody's and to make it, to make it more
Speaker 2: bearable from the Bengals standpoint in view of things, big
Speaker 2: thing was the win.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, lo that football game after that would
Speaker 3: have been oh man, no doubt.
Speaker 2: You mentioned in the first segment the run game and
Speaker 2: being a big key here and I'm I'm looking at
Speaker 2: Chase Brown.
Speaker 3: David.
Speaker 2: We talk about him every week because he keeps doing
Speaker 2: stuff every week. That's six straight games with at least
Speaker 2: one hundred yards from scrimmage. Over those six games, he's
Speaker 2: rushed for five hundred and two yards, averaging almost six
Speaker 2: yards of carry Dave for the season, He's now tracking
Speaker 2: for fourteen hundred total yards from scrimmage. He's clicked, the
Speaker 2: line has clicked. The run game looks a whole lot
Speaker 2: different than it did early on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. And he he is he is definitely
Speaker 3: a force to be reckoned with. I mean he is.
Speaker 3: He's starting to give some around the National Football League
Speaker 3: because he can do anything, and he can do everything
Speaker 3: on a football field. He can run the ball. He
Speaker 3: can run the ball with power. He can run with speed.
Speaker 3: You know, he can bust a long one. He can
Speaker 3: run away from people. He has you know, sub four
Speaker 3: to four speed. So and he's put together. You know,
Speaker 3: they's listened at five ten like two fifteen. He's probably
Speaker 3: five nine ish and you know, maybe two tennish. But man,
Speaker 3: he packs a punch now is a he's a well
Speaker 3: put together kid. And he's been in the weight rooms.
Speaker 3: His squads, hamstrings, casts are all unbelievably strong. And he
Speaker 3: also is a good receiver out of the backfield, runs
Speaker 3: good routes, gets separation, knows how to change direction, can
Speaker 3: do it quickly with those jackhammer feet that he's got,
Speaker 3: and then he also will block people. I mean he'll
Speaker 3: get physical in that area and he'll take on a
Speaker 3: linebacker or a safety that's blitzing, hit him right in
Speaker 3: the chest and stone him, knock him back some you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, Chase Brown can do it all and does
Speaker 3: all well. Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: Along the run game and talking about stoning somebody, I
Speaker 2: don't want to leave out Samaj p Ryan. I'll throw
Speaker 2: that Joe made to Yoshi, which was just he ripped
Speaker 2: it right down in the middle of the field twenty
Speaker 2: nine yards for a touchdown. It's beautiful, Joe said after
Speaker 2: the game he felt back at that point. But Samaj
Speaker 2: p Ryan picks up a blitzer and just moves him
Speaker 2: out of the way. And it was one of those
Speaker 2: in slow motion you're thinking, Joe, duck, he's gonna get
Speaker 2: and then Samaj to the rescue, got him.
Speaker 3: Right out of the way. Right, You're right on. I mean,
Speaker 3: Samaj is a great blend of physicality and athleticism. I
Speaker 3: mean he's a big bodied running back man that can,
Speaker 3: you know, do things that backs much smaller physical size
Speaker 3: wise do. But then he'll also you talk about a
Speaker 3: one two punch of blitz pickup, Samaj p Run and
Speaker 3: Chase Brown. I'll say that I waterer that in the
Speaker 3: National Football League, there's not a better one two punch,
Speaker 3: a better duo a blitz pickup guys than those two,
Speaker 3: because no, they their goal is to not only pick
Speaker 3: the guy up, but to hurt him, you know, to
Speaker 3: make them remember that. Hey, this is this is Take
Speaker 3: a look at the number. I'm number thirty, Chase Brown.
Speaker 3: That's me. I'm the guy that stoned you right there,
Speaker 3: hit you right in the mouth and uh and startled you,
Speaker 3: stunned you more so.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And Samaj p Ryan, Hey, I'm number thirty four. Yep,
Speaker 3: take a look, I'm the guy. Those two guys take
Speaker 3: great pride in that part of the game, for sure.
Speaker 2: But I remember Chase. The first couple of weeks we
Speaker 2: talked about Chase Brown being hit behind the line so
Speaker 2: often and before he could make his first cut through
Speaker 2: his contact, and then it seemed like there were things
Speaker 2: that he may have rushed because the the frustration. It's
Speaker 2: not that and I'm going to make something happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now it seems he trust that old line is really
Speaker 2: gelled and he's trusting it there's just seems like a
Speaker 2: flow to the runs.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think I think you're right, Plants. I
Speaker 3: think the the old line is playing at a much
Speaker 3: higher level, uh than they had been. You hear the
Speaker 3: players talking about that that they're very comfortable, and that's
Speaker 3: the biggest thing. Having played the position in the offensive line,
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to be comfortable with how the
Speaker 3: center plays, how the tackle plays. If you're a guard,
Speaker 3: for example, and you know it almost has to be
Speaker 3: you can do it, and you sleep when you pass
Speaker 3: off a stunt. You just trust. You know he's gonna
Speaker 3: be there. There's no way he's not gonna be there.
Speaker 3: So they're starting to play much much better as a group.
Speaker 3: It's like I always compare it to making a fist,
Speaker 3: you know, the five components wrap four fingers and curl
Speaker 3: the thumb around it. That's that's the way they're playing
Speaker 3: in the offensive line right now. They're playing like they're
Speaker 3: they're making a fist on every single snap and doing
Speaker 3: some damage.
Speaker 2: All right, still ahead, more to sort through from this game.
Speaker 2: Jeff Hobson's gonna join us in the second hour tonight.
Speaker 2: We're gonna hear a little bit later. I will get
Speaker 2: into the Bills and hear the opening thoughts of Sean
Speaker 2: McDermott yesterday from the bills dominating win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: All of that and more over the course of three hours,
Speaker 2: again with a programming note on seven hundred WLW or
Speaker 2: break away, it'll be Dan and Terry with UC Basketball.
Speaker 2: Stick with us on ESPN fifteen thirty. We've got Bengals
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Speaker 2: Lance McAllister along with Dave Lapham.
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow on day seventy five since his injury, returns
Speaker 2: to complete twenty four of forty six two hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty one yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, He was sacked once.
Speaker 2: Quarterback rating of eighty three point seven. With all eyes
Speaker 2: on Joe and howid look turns in a winning performance,
Speaker 2: and he talked about it after that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I felt great.
Speaker 7: You know, obviously had to knock some rust off there
Speaker 7: in the first half, so I expect myself to play better.
Speaker 6: But uh, it was great to be back out there.
Speaker 7: I was, you know, a lot of emotions running through
Speaker 7: it at the end of the game, so, uh, it's
Speaker 7: just good to be back with the guys. You know,
Speaker 7: I thought second half, I started to to put it
Speaker 7: more where I wanted and settled in a little bit.
Speaker 7: Certainly miss some throws early that I typically make, but
Speaker 7: you know, after that, I felt felt pretty comfortable back there.
Speaker 7: I thought that the line did great, we ran it well.
Speaker 7: Obviously defense played great, so I'm just gonna keep getting better.
Speaker 3: You mentioned jelly off a little bit of rubb or like,
Speaker 3: when did you start through.
Speaker 6: The whole first half.
Speaker 7: I was, you know, my feet were a little antsy
Speaker 7: back there, missing some throws, But like I said, in
Speaker 7: the second half, I felt felt a lot more comfortable.
Speaker 7: Started putting them where I wanted to and uh, you know,
Speaker 7: getting out and running and makes making a couple of
Speaker 7: plays with my feet, getting out of the pocket a
Speaker 7: little bit. Certainly don't wanna make a living that way.
Speaker 6: But was able to to pick my spots go.
Speaker 5: I walk going on during the night.
Speaker 8: But you canna have any moments where you felt like
Speaker 8: you had.
Speaker 9: A chance to reflect on the journey back to this
Speaker 9: moment to.
Speaker 10: Get back and and how hard it's been to be
Speaker 10: able to enjoy a night like this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was certainly have those moments after the game.
Speaker 7: Certainly hasn't been easy on me through through six years
Speaker 7: from a lot of different angles. But you know, I've
Speaker 7: worked really hard to put myself in position to be
Speaker 7: back out there, and a lot of people around me
Speaker 7: have done the same. And there's been a lot of
Speaker 7: discussions and a lot of time in the training room
Speaker 7: and just a lot lot that has gone into this.
Speaker 7: And you know, I'm I'm proud to be that is.
Speaker 11: And that over good. Was there any supposed to.
Speaker 12: Get me back into it where you know in the
Speaker 12: first step then you fail to get Is there any
Speaker 12: throw the pets you going in.
Speaker 7: To pet your home that touchdown to to Yoshi, I
Speaker 7: felt pretty good about it. Was, Uh, put it right
Speaker 7: where I wanted it. Didn't exactly spend it the way
Speaker 7: I wanted it, but that's all right. I put it,
Speaker 7: put it in a good spot, and you know, he
Speaker 7: was ready for the work.
Speaker 5: That one was.
Speaker 6: That one felt though, is this what you became?
Speaker 9: That more was kind of whining and what's all that
Speaker 9: worked in?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there's no there's no better feeling than that,
Speaker 7: you know, putting in, putting in work for for a
Speaker 7: long time and going out and in it paying off.
Speaker 7: It's Uh, there's just n just there's there's just no
Speaker 7: feeling like going out in front of the world with
Speaker 7: a group of guys that work really hard to go
Speaker 7: try to win games, and and going out and putting
Speaker 7: on a good performance and winning that game.
Speaker 6: You know, obviously we got a lot of games left,
Speaker 6: but we're.
Speaker 7: Gonna enjoy this when on this on this little mini
Speaker 7: by weekend and everybody's gonna go and have Thanksgiving with
Speaker 7: their families and smile and eat and feel good about it.
Speaker 11: House.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how playing?
Speaker 6: Shoot, Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 7: I was a little more mobile than I expected to be,
Speaker 7: to be honest, So that felt good.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: We got a good system on the sideline of you know,
Speaker 7: changing shoes out and doing what I need to do
Speaker 7: to stay fresh.
Speaker 6: Uh, So we'll continue to do.
Speaker 9: That sort of playing the game where you kind of
Speaker 9: play and sends it out and.
Speaker 10: Make over spot.
Speaker 7: He thought, Well, I think the first time I really
Speaker 7: left the pocket was in the red zone.
Speaker 6: I threw it to Yoshi. It was incomplete.
Speaker 7: But after that one I felt pretty good, and so
Speaker 7: I felt a little more comfortable doing some more of
Speaker 7: that stuff.
Speaker 9: It just one deal of job, obviously, one way.
Speaker 3: What given the competition where it was said in the
Speaker 3: national decide, does this kind of give you a glimpse of.
Speaker 10: What was the capable world?
Speaker 7: The next quody, we know the guys we have in
Speaker 7: the locker room, we know what we have in front
Speaker 7: of us. It is certainly not gonna be easy. But
Speaker 7: you know, the way our defense has played the last
Speaker 7: several weeks I think has been extremely positive. Obviously they
Speaker 7: were great, great, great great today. Uh, But that's been building,
Speaker 7: that's been building all year. You see them putting in,
Speaker 7: putting in the work. You see al talking about a
Speaker 7: lot of different things that end up showing up tonight
Speaker 7: in in the last couple of games as well, And
Speaker 7: so credit to those guys for working so hard the
Speaker 7: way that they do and and putting on that performance.
Speaker 12: You would say you and I was kind of s
Speaker 12: I guess it's short end of faith in Tanner is
Speaker 12: going against the best safety believe.
Speaker 10: I mean, I wouldn't see mean differ great action, but
Speaker 10: we're not.
Speaker 7: Like, Yeah, from the moment Tanner got here, all he
Speaker 7: did was make plays in practice. And when we first
Speaker 7: got here, and was that twenty two I think when
Speaker 7: we signed and I was like, who's this guy making
Speaker 7: all these catches on scouts, you know, and didn't know
Speaker 7: his name, and then he just continuously kept doing it.
Speaker 7: And I've been his biggest fan since he got here.
Speaker 7: He just you know, it's it's not easy being in
Speaker 7: that spot when you're the third or fourth tight end
Speaker 7: that you got. You might get a couple of snaps,
Speaker 7: uh in certain spots in the game and it's cold outside,
Speaker 7: you're on the sideline. You gotta stay warm, and then
Speaker 7: you gotta come in and catch a back piel on
Speaker 7: throw against Kyle Hamilton.
Speaker 3: That's not easy.
Speaker 6: And he's just always been ready for his number he called,
Speaker 6: So credit to him for that.
Speaker 8: Some of the challenges that we faced in the journey.
Speaker 3: Is there something that.
Speaker 6: I'm just thankful for the opportunity to play this game.
Speaker 7: We got great guys in there I'm I love playing with,
Speaker 7: and we got a great coaching staff.
Speaker 6: I'm thankful for all my loved ones being there for
Speaker 6: me during this tough time. They know who they are.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go.
Speaker 7: Name them, but they know who they are. They've been
Speaker 7: there for me a lot through the years. So that
Speaker 7: makes me feel good. And then you know, obviously the
Speaker 7: training staff that gets creative pushes me.
Speaker 6: I push them. We got a great relationship. Certainly, I've
Speaker 6: been in there enough.
Speaker 5: We better.
Speaker 7: But you know, if anything ever happens again, we'll get
Speaker 7: right back to it. So we got to keep going
Speaker 7: on it. So haven't yelled like that in a wild
Speaker 7: Hobbs cloud out there.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow with reflections After Thursday night, we'll offer reflections
Speaker 2: on Joe's performance, things that stood out, and continue on
Speaker 2: on this Monday night, It's Bengals Line on the Bengals
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Speaker 2: are rolling right along on Bengals line on this Monday
Speaker 2: Night on the Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen to
Speaker 2: thirty LANs but Catlester and Dave Blapham picking up the
Speaker 2: pieces from Thursday night's win in Baltimore, looking ahead to
Speaker 2: those Buffalo bills, anticipating conversation. In our second hour tonight
Speaker 2: with Jeff Hobson's senior writer from Bengals dot Com, we
Speaker 2: heard from Joe Burrow in the last segment and Dave
Speaker 2: I was struck after the game in a in a
Speaker 2: really funny scene with Melissa starts on the NBCTV side
Speaker 2: and the gathering of the players around and they are
Speaker 2: handing out turkey legs and there was a celebration and
Speaker 2: Joe was asked by Melissa about coming back, and he
Speaker 2: got emotional. He paused and his eyes kind of welled up.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like the moment hit him of everything
Speaker 2: he'd been through and fought through and got through to
Speaker 2: turn into performance that Yeah, there were some rough edges
Speaker 2: to it, but he had to feel good about overall.
Speaker 2: It was it was any I think we lose sight
Speaker 2: of that sometime, the emotional aspect of the time and
Speaker 2: effort putting into coming back, and it really hit him
Speaker 2: on Thursday night, it did.
Speaker 3: And and people, you know, don't realize the amount of
Speaker 3: effort that you have to put into rehab, you know,
Speaker 3: and the players, a lot of players get emotion no
Speaker 3: going through that rehab process and everything that you have
Speaker 3: to do, and how hard you have to push yourself
Speaker 3: and you think you maybe hit the limit, but no,
Speaker 3: there's more. You got to reach down and and find
Speaker 3: another high to go hit. And and uh, I think
Speaker 3: I think it did finally all come down upon Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: you know, and uh, hey, he's human, you know, he's
Speaker 3: not a robot. The guy's got emotions. And he really
Speaker 3: put a lot of work, a lot of effort, a
Speaker 3: lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of
Speaker 3: everything into that into that rehab process. And and and
Speaker 3: then to go on the road and a division rival
Speaker 3: and get a win, you know, to top it off,
Speaker 3: he he came back a lot earlier than people thought
Speaker 3: he would. You know, that's a tribute to him as well,
Speaker 3: how how much he works and how the kind of
Speaker 3: shape that he keeps himself in. The guy really is
Speaker 3: dedicated to the game of football. And uh, he's all
Speaker 3: about football.
Speaker 2: Albert Breyer of Monday Morning Quarter wrote a kind of
Speaker 2: behind the scenes after an interview he did with Joe.
Speaker 2: And I was struck by Joe saying in the interview
Speaker 2: how much he researched the injury and how many people
Speaker 2: he talked to and figured out the things he had
Speaker 2: to avoid. And he said, I started to think critically
Speaker 2: about it, and he kept researching, and he kept asking questions,
Speaker 2: and he pushed himself. And then the next day, how
Speaker 2: do you feel? And he felt fine. He pushed himself
Speaker 2: a little bit more. And just there's a lot that
Speaker 2: goes into it. It's just not lift some weights, do
Speaker 2: some whatever that there's a lot of I just I
Speaker 2: was struck by researching critical thinking and that sounds like
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. It's going to be a project to test
Speaker 2: a challenge for him that he welcomes.
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more, Lance, I mean, that
Speaker 3: is what Joe Burrow is all about. He's all about
Speaker 3: the challenge, you know, He's all about the challenge of
Speaker 3: winning football games. He's all about the challenge of getting
Speaker 3: his body right. He's all about the challenge of getting
Speaker 3: in his body right in record time.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: If and I don't think anybody's surprised that the research
Speaker 3: that he put into it. I need to know exactly
Speaker 3: what happened to me? What what what was this injury?
Speaker 3: What caused this injury? What could I have done, if anything,
Speaker 3: to prevent this injury? What can I do to prevent
Speaker 3: this injury from reoccurring in the future. You know, he's
Speaker 3: he's an inquisitive guy. He's a very intelligent man. He
Speaker 3: wants to know. Uh, you know, he's a learned man.
Speaker 3: He reads a lot of different things, a lot of
Speaker 3: different books, and h his his uh medical research. I'm
Speaker 3: sure it was exhaustive. And Joey Bosse was telling me
Speaker 3: that man, he had a million questions. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: how joe is he? You know, he answered one question,
Speaker 3: it leads to two others, and he wants to know
Speaker 3: the answer to both of those, and then it leads
Speaker 3: to three more, and it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 3: But I think that's what makes him great, that's what
Speaker 3: makes him special. He uh, he's gonna leave no stone unturned,
Speaker 3: There's no question about that. And as a result of that,
Speaker 3: his rehab was a thing of beauty. It was a
Speaker 3: record Center. Yeah, he told Albert Breer.
Speaker 2: The original plan in his mind was to return for
Speaker 2: the Buffalo game, but then he started feeling better and
Speaker 2: he said, I was feeling pretty dang good.
Speaker 3: And then that the week leading up to the.
Speaker 2: Patriots, and Zach alluded to it, he felt some soreness
Speaker 2: body wise after practice, which you totally understand it wasn't
Speaker 2: related to the foot, But if you haven't practiced in
Speaker 2: seventy days and suddenly you're a full go, you're gonna
Speaker 2: feel some soreness. And I think everybody understands Zach erring
Speaker 2: on the side of hey, I know it's not toe related,
Speaker 2: but you're sore. We've come this far, and I've always
Speaker 2: I've always remembered in talking with players who go through injuries,
Speaker 2: the biggest challenge is it's like running the race and
Speaker 2: you get right to the tape of the finish line
Speaker 2: and you want to run right through, and sometimes you
Speaker 2: have to to pause right there and think, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm on a schedule, I've got a plan. I can't
Speaker 2: rush it right at the end or I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: a setback.
Speaker 3: Potential setback is a big deal. Lands there's no doubt
Speaker 3: and that's and I'm not saying I don't think Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow was necessary that that was at the top of
Speaker 3: his mind, but it was in there. It was, you know,
Speaker 3: in the back of his mind. Uh and not way back,
Speaker 3: not buried in the back of his mind. And enjoy
Speaker 3: Bo saying the medical people they all had had considered
Speaker 3: that as well. And I can tell you that even
Speaker 3: if in the beginning of training camp back in the day,
Speaker 3: a lot of it was there was the conditioning part
Speaker 3: of it, and there was football involved, but there was
Speaker 3: a lot of conditioning as well as france and up
Speaker 3: downsitting the ground, all that kind of thing. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that Joe did updowns and all that, but he
Speaker 3: did a lot of running and he was going to
Speaker 3: test it. And you do you get sore. You know,
Speaker 3: you're you're not a robot, you aren't, like I said,
Speaker 3: You're a human being, you know, and you are going
Speaker 3: to have to work through storness. Some guys it takes
Speaker 3: a little bit longer than others to work through stillness,
Speaker 3: and Joe, being the world class athlete that he is,
Speaker 3: works through it pretty quickly. But there was bottom line,
Speaker 3: no need to rush him. I mean The worst thing
Speaker 3: that could have happened is to let him go out
Speaker 3: there and play too soon and then suffer a setback
Speaker 3: and then everybody get all over, you know, everybody, medical people,
Speaker 3: the organization, the coaches, the play, the player himself. You
Speaker 3: want to avoid that at all costs.
Speaker 2: Jaren May of News five. I was watching a feature
Speaker 2: he did yesterday on the shoe that Joe is now using,
Speaker 2: and he turned to a guy named Jeff Angler, who's
Speaker 2: the go to orthopedics for orthopedis for athletes, and they
Speaker 2: did a foot mapping thing with as censors and part
Speaker 2: of what was built into the shoe, and is this
Speaker 2: really fascinating stuff. And it's like an F one race
Speaker 2: car form of a shoe. It's like the topeline shoe
Speaker 2: that can be mapped out for something like this. But
Speaker 2: I laughed because Joe said in the Albert Bear piece
Speaker 2: the plan was when he got to the sidelines, he'd
Speaker 2: take that shoe off and just wear more of a
Speaker 2: normal shoe while the defense was on the field and
Speaker 2: let his toe, for lack of a better word, breathe
Speaker 2: a little bit. But the Bengals defense was turning the
Speaker 2: Ravens over so much Joe was like having to put
Speaker 2: the shoe back on and go out to the field,
Speaker 2: which is a good thing, but a funny thing of Joe.
Speaker 13: Like, gotta put the other shoe back onto your back,
Speaker 13: out of the field, enough time to let that bout,
Speaker 13: you know. Yeah, I mean it was again. It was
Speaker 13: a classic, classic day for a complete football game. Was
Speaker 13: probably the best day that they could have done it
Speaker 13: because of Joe Burrow's return. It was his first game,
Speaker 13: so why put it all on his shoulders. You don't
Speaker 13: want to overburden Joe Burrow and say, oh, yeah, Joe's back, Joe,
Speaker 13: go win the game for us.
Speaker 3: Joe's back. We're good. Nobody has to do anything. Yep, Joe,
Speaker 3: go do it. We know you can. No offense, defense,
Speaker 3: special teams. Everybody did their thing. Everybody contributed to the car.
Speaker 2: I also believe, final thought, even though he was seventy
Speaker 2: four days away, not all of those away, but not
Speaker 2: practicing all the time, I still believe if you put
Speaker 2: Joe and Jamar on a field, just the two of them,
Speaker 2: and blindfolded both of them and set out Jamar and
Speaker 2: said we're going to run this route, I would love
Speaker 2: to watch Joe drop and Jamar run his route and
Speaker 2: the ball would be right there. It's just I'd love
Speaker 2: to see like a scan telepathically of those two where
Speaker 2: they are on the field together, because the lines would match,
Speaker 2: because it seems like they they're in each other's minds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're on the same page. Yes, no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: And you know, you think about it all those throws
Speaker 3: at LSU as well, So it is it's like they
Speaker 3: could they could run routes and Joe could Jamar could
Speaker 3: run routes and Joe could throw passes to Jamarrow in
Speaker 3: their sleep. Yes, you know, just dream about it and
Speaker 3: put the ball right on the money and Jamar make
Speaker 3: a great catch.
Speaker 2: All right, let's head down the stretch, put our first
Speaker 2: hour in the books, take a little bit of a
Speaker 2: closer look at the AFC North for a we'll run
Speaker 2: a two minute drill to close out the air. Then
Speaker 2: we'll get the Jeff Hopson in the second hour. Tonight,
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Speaker 2: We touched on the division a little bit earlier. But
Speaker 2: the Ravens are six and six, the Steelers are six
Speaker 2: and six, the Bengals four and eight, the Browns three
Speaker 2: and nine, and it's it's no great to earth shattering
Speaker 2: news that the Bengals played better than anybody in the
Speaker 2: division over the weekend. There's five games left and if
Speaker 2: you look at the trends, Steelers didn't look good yesterday.
Speaker 2: Ravens with with Lamar certainly banged up, don't look the same.
Speaker 2: The Bengals, all of a sudden, are positioned and healthy
Speaker 2: with Joe back to They're not in front of the pack,
Speaker 2: but they're in position to start chasing and gaining a
Speaker 2: lot of ground on the pack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like Secretariat when it was closed, you know,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Yeah, I don't know. Take take
Speaker 3: that outside lane and just maybe you're running further, but
Speaker 3: you're still running faster. You know, it's like unbelievable. So
Speaker 3: it would be it would be a great finish. They've
Speaker 3: done it before, yep. I mean they've they've climbed back
Speaker 3: into a race and then and then finished it strong.
Speaker 3: And uh and you know, gotting a wild card in
Speaker 3: the in the playoffs and uh, it's it's certainly not
Speaker 3: beyond the realm of possibility, particularly the way they're playing.
Speaker 3: And again, lams, I think the defense has woken up.
Speaker 3: That's that's gonna be a big deal. Well, no defense
Speaker 3: wins championships. Defense gets you in the playoffs. Very rarely
Speaker 3: do you have a playoff team that's a sieve defensively.
Speaker 3: You know, they have to hold up their end of
Speaker 3: the bargain. And the Bengals defense has been doing a
Speaker 3: hell of a job of that in the last five
Speaker 3: or six weeks. Off for sure, by the.
Speaker 2: Way they were when they played Renegade in Pittsburgh yesterday,
Speaker 2: they were booing the Steelers, booing the Steelers during Renegade
Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers after the game it was perceived as
Speaker 2: throwing his wide receivers under the bus and and TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt wasn't happy about the defense and how the Bills
Speaker 2: ran the same play over and over again and their
Speaker 2: adjustments weren't being made. And it's not a good vibe
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh right now.
Speaker 3: That that's a shame. That's that's I feel so badly
Speaker 3: for him. God, But how about the on the on
Speaker 3: the network post game showy, they preference Aaron Rodgers cashus
Speaker 3: Clay before it's Muhammedally. Yeah, it's like, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think it was a coward. Was somebody say it's like
Speaker 3: cashus Clay. I mean, he's he's beaten up, wow, and
Speaker 3: he's he's lost his uh, he's lost his fastball, he's
Speaker 3: lost his knockout punch. I'm like, wow, man, that's that's like,
Speaker 3: oh man, that's like calling him out, big time, big time,
Speaker 3: calling him out.
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Lance but Cantlester Dave Lapham, what a
Speaker 2: treat man.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's been a while.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we I don't know if we've
Speaker 2: ever had him on Bengals, and we probably have, it's
Speaker 2: been too long because I don't remember. But sitting next
Speaker 2: to us now, the senior writer twenty five years Bengals
Speaker 2: dot Com, that would be none other than Jeff Hobson.
Speaker 3: Man, it is great to see you.
Speaker 12: I'm only halfway to lap It's good to see you,
Speaker 12: see guy. I think the last time I went face
Speaker 12: to face was probably in the Marvin Lewis.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's good to.
Speaker 12: Let's let's let's do a little Homer Jones when Roger
Speaker 12: Lap him would go out in the back yard and
Speaker 12: it's right with Lapp and his uh and his brothers,
Speaker 12: my brother Bruce, Yeah, Bruce, Bruce and Roger.
Speaker 4: They can play some homage. That was Roger's favorite player
Speaker 4: was also my favorite.
Speaker 3: Place, right so he could run now Olympia, I mean
Speaker 3: he was, he was an Olympic sprinter. Homa Jones talented dude.
Speaker 4: Invented the spike, yeah, which I didn't which I didn't
Speaker 4: know till he passed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he he just kind of like casually, you know,
Speaker 3: classically dropped the ball. Isaac did the the old nothing
Speaker 3: better than the classic, guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go back to Thursday night we were talking earlier.
Speaker 2: Would you be fair to say that was the best
Speaker 2: all around performance of the season for this team.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's no question, might be for the last couple
Speaker 12: of years. Maybe when you put all three phases in there.
Speaker 12: Because McPherson knocked in six, which is which is pretty good,
Speaker 12: you know. And uh, what's we've been hearing at all
Speaker 12: all year complimentary football. That's what it looks like, boys,
Speaker 12: and it's pretty pretty impressive. Uh you know, I mean,
Speaker 12: I know Lama may not be Lama, but to go
Speaker 12: down there, and you know, John Highball was undefeated on
Speaker 12: Thursday night at home, so uh, you know, to get
Speaker 12: that one in. I think it's a last time the
Speaker 12: Bengals won on the road in the division on a
Speaker 12: Thursday night. They haven't played very many, but it was
Speaker 12: Jeff Blake unfurled a one fifty eight and three rivers.
Speaker 4: Pass right, win, right.
Speaker 2: You wrote about it, it was like Joe Burrow never
Speaker 2: left early. Shook off a little bit of rust as expected,
Speaker 2: but man, he got rolling and he was Joe.
Speaker 12: I mean you might be thinking, ah, you know, they'll uh,
Speaker 12: maybe they'll put him under center hand it off a
Speaker 12: little bit, maybe like that first series when he when
Speaker 12: he when he did when play action did a little boot,
Speaker 12: maybe a couple easy throat.
Speaker 4: No way, man, he was. He was out there and
Speaker 4: yeah and uh you know, yeah he was. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean he was not.
Speaker 12: Uh if you look at the completion percentage, you know,
Speaker 12: this guy is the all time leading completion percentage leader,
Speaker 12: so he wasn't near that number, but boy, he made
Speaker 12: some He made some clutch throws on third down that
Speaker 12: looked like he had never left, you know, the first
Speaker 12: third down that Jim had the third and ten. You know,
Speaker 12: of course, the two touchdown passes, both on third downs,
Speaker 12: both against the Blitz and jeez, you know, I mean,
Speaker 12: seventy five days, where have they gone?
Speaker 3: The thing about him that I was really impressed with
Speaker 3: as well, a lot everything he said, no interceptions, did
Speaker 3: not turn the ball over. Yeah, didn't put the ball
Speaker 3: in jeopardy, never put the ball in harm's way. I
Speaker 3: mean against that defense, I mean Baltimore's defense. You know,
Speaker 3: they can be sometimes a little tough to figure out
Speaker 3: what are they doing. They disguise coverage is pretty darn well,
Speaker 3: you know. And and Joe was never fooled. He never
Speaker 3: he never took the hook to the belly.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: He basically made his reads and read him out properly
Speaker 3: and made great throws. I mean, that's that is the
Speaker 3: undoing of teams against the Baltimore Ravens. They turned the
Speaker 3: football over. They give the Ravens extra possessions and take
Speaker 3: possessions away from themselves. And the Bengals and Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: they refuse to do it. I mean, he's had great
Speaker 3: success against Baltimore for that reason.
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you know, and we saw, you know, I mean,
Speaker 12: if it's December, they still must be in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And so it's the two out.
Speaker 12: And what we saw in the four to twenty five
Speaker 12: game was exactly what you're talking about lap turnovers. I
Speaker 12: mean that game was switched on back to back possessions
Speaker 12: with the with the scoop and score and the pick right,
Speaker 12: and uh, you know, now I can assure you the
Speaker 12: Ravens are not going to come in here in another
Speaker 12: week and turn it over five times. Absolutely, they hadn't.
Speaker 12: The Bengals hadn't done that to him in like eighteen years.
Speaker 12: But but you said, if Joe keeps that goose egg there, right,
Speaker 12: then you know they can be in anybody if they
Speaker 12: keep the goose egg. Anybody can beat anybody if you
Speaker 12: have a goose egg there.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's the most important stat in
Speaker 3: the NFL, turnovers. And if you don't turn the football over,
Speaker 3: if you're if you're clean in that department, you have
Speaker 3: a hell of a chance of winning a lot of games. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, if you look, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 12: No, I was just gonna say, uh this, Zach and
Speaker 12: Joe have been very successful in December Joe's ten and three,
Speaker 12: and you know it, it's directly relatable with to what
Speaker 12: you said the turnovers, you know, and it's uh, you
Speaker 12: know what is it is because they're in sync. They've
Speaker 12: gotten all the kinks out.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Granted he hasn't played.
Speaker 12: So maybe it's unfair to match him against those other
Speaker 12: Decembers because he's been playing.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 12: I mean, it's like he said the other night, he goes, well,
Speaker 12: he goes, I had been I did have all a
Speaker 12: training camp, yeah, you know, and so I mean, uh,
Speaker 12: you know, if if I mean, if he comes close
Speaker 12: to what he's done in in this December, you know,
Speaker 12: they do have a shot to run the table.
Speaker 2: So many different guys made plays. I always look at
Speaker 2: my sheet at the end of the game and I
Speaker 2: see a whole bunch of names listed that that that's
Speaker 2: usually a good thing because I'm writing down positives and Tanner,
Speaker 2: Hudson and Joe's alluded to it. Just the trust he
Speaker 2: has in Tanner and what they've developed, and and he
Speaker 2: gets rewarded with a spectacular one hand catch.
Speaker 12: You know, your Facebook posts are great. That's close as
Speaker 12: I get to social media, which is still which is
Speaker 12: still too close. I should be wearing a you know,
Speaker 12: I should be wearing a vest. But uh well, you
Speaker 12: know you always write your thoughts on a right after,
Speaker 12: and it's and it's almost always right around with one
Speaker 12: of them, you know, thinking. And so the Hudson thing,
Speaker 12: I'm thinking, you know, I'm looking here in this end
Speaker 12: zone and it does it seems like two weeks ago
Speaker 12: that he went to.
Speaker 4: Hudson for the two pointer. Yeah right, you know, and
Speaker 4: then that's how much he trusts him.
Speaker 12: The game was, I mean, he had just threw a
Speaker 12: great ball to Jama with two guys hanging on for
Speaker 12: the touchdown, but Boomy went to Tanner in that moment.
Speaker 4: Now, it didn't work.
Speaker 12: Probably could probably should have had another snap because he
Speaker 12: tore his head off, right, but uh, you know, and
Speaker 12: that was that was the biggest you can make that argument.
Speaker 4: That was the biggest play of the game. It was
Speaker 4: twelve seven and boom he made it. Yes, nineteen seven
Speaker 4: thirty nine.
Speaker 12: They're that close to kicking another field goal, right right,
Speaker 12: you know, So that was you know, Hudson's this guy,
Speaker 12: I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: You look at it, and Joe loves to throw the
Speaker 3: tight end I mean he loves that position group and
Speaker 3: he's got goot guys that can catch the football, can
Speaker 3: run routes and catch the football.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: I mean, Kaziki's almost like a big slot receiver, you know,
Speaker 3: the way he runs routes and his ability to get
Speaker 3: real strong hands, you know, catch it and tuck it
Speaker 3: away and keep it out of harm's way. He's not
Speaker 3: gonna spit the bit and give the football away. Uh
Speaker 3: you know. I mean Tanner Hudson, he's he's legit. I mean,
Speaker 3: he runs as good a route and that's what Joe
Speaker 3: I remember talking to him in training camp. He said,
Speaker 3: this guy runs routes as crisp and cleanly as any
Speaker 3: tight end that I've worked with. And the big word
Speaker 3: is trust. He trusts Tanner Hudson. He trusts Tanner Hudson's
Speaker 3: going to be where he's supposed to be when he's
Speaker 3: supposed to be there, and if it's catchable football, he's
Speaker 3: going to make the catch.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 12: I was going to see what would he do, how
Speaker 12: would he respond intensely because he intentionally made a great
Speaker 12: move on I think it was Humphrey. I want I
Speaker 12: want to say it was Marlon hump yeh. And there
Speaker 12: was a major league move on a Pro Bowl corner
Speaker 12: and he stopped. I think that's six, right if Tinsley
Speaker 12: keeps going right. But you know what, Joe kept going
Speaker 12: to him, which I thought that was a big sign
Speaker 12: for the young fella, because you know, Joe, he's not
Speaker 12: gonna if you're not you know, if he's not doing
Speaker 12: what you expect, goodbye, Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: And he but he went right back to Ye.
Speaker 3: He didn't want anybody freelance. No, he didn't want anybody
Speaker 3: doing something that's not you know, supposed to be done.
Speaker 3: But he went right back to you know what. You know,
Speaker 3: he went back to which that good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anybody who knows Jeff Hobson knows you like to run
Speaker 2: the football. And over the last six weeks, Chase Brown
Speaker 2: six consecutive one hundred yards plus from scrimmage. In those
Speaker 2: six games, he's rushed for five hundred and two almost
Speaker 2: seven yards of carry and Jeff, he's now on pace
Speaker 2: for over fourteen hundred total yards from scrimmage this season.
Speaker 12: You know, I think maybe lap you and I were
Speaker 12: talking about this, the first Bengal to go six in
Speaker 12: a Row. You know, AJ Green didn't do that, Corey
Speaker 12: Dylan Dune didn't do that, or James Brooks or Jamack Chase.
Speaker 12: I mean, wow, yeah, you know, he kind of snuck
Speaker 12: that in there. But I think in lap would could
Speaker 12: you know, I would certainly yield the floor to.
Speaker 3: H to lap On.
Speaker 4: This is I think the offensive line is.
Speaker 12: I think the rookie gads and now the last couple
Speaker 12: of games they've been going with rising because you know,
Speaker 12: because Jalen Rivers has been hurt, but fair Child and
Speaker 12: I mean, I you know, they've been talking about this
Speaker 12: duo play that I think is really I think they've
Speaker 12: struck goal of that, which is basically a double team, right,
Speaker 12: and and they get to the second level and there
Speaker 12: you know that means your Gads and Teddy.
Speaker 4: I think Teddy's having a good year.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean people want to you know, they've you know,
Speaker 12: they've uh some people want to say, well, Teddy's turning.
Speaker 12: I think he's playing as well as probably as he
Speaker 12: played last year, right, and he played pretty good. So
Speaker 12: I think the interior I think that's been you know,
Speaker 12: I think the young guy I think I think the
Speaker 12: rookie guards have been good the guy.
Speaker 3: The guy that I in Bengal history, the running back
Speaker 3: that I compare Brown to, the Chase Brown to is
Speaker 3: Essex Johnson express about the same height Essex, like five
Speaker 3: to nine over two hundred pounds, you know, quick change
Speaker 3: of direction, guys. Really, I mean Essex could have played
Speaker 3: played slot receiver, and I think Chase Brown could too
Speaker 3: play slot receiver. You know, the way they run routes
Speaker 3: and everything, and great red zone weapons, low red zone weapons.
Speaker 3: I think I think there's a there's a correlation there
Speaker 3: between those that just two guys.
Speaker 12: You know, it's interesting, you know the last game they
Speaker 12: played before you join the organization. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 12: I think Essex Johnson suffered a devastating knee injinet in
Speaker 12: that playoff game against Miami, right, and that led to
Speaker 12: the Issac Curtis rule, because I think, I I think,
Speaker 12: if I'm not mistaken, I think Essex went down early,
Speaker 12: maybe in the first series, and so you know, what
Speaker 12: was there to do but to go to Curtis and
Speaker 12: Joyna right and Trumpy and they just malls Curtis because
Speaker 12: they couldn't hand it off to Essex, right, you know.
Speaker 12: But yeah, I mean that's a that's a guy we
Speaker 12: probably don't talk about enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Essex express Man, that that was his nickname, and
Speaker 3: that dude, he was a Player's.
Speaker 2: Take a time out to continue more to get to
Speaker 2: in this hour, Jeff Hobson are a very special guest
Speaker 2: hanging out in Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network
Speaker 2: and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, we're rolling,
Speaker 2: no reason to slow down. We are cruising through our
Speaker 2: second raton out of Bengals on and the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: Network a THEESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Lance McAllister,
Speaker 2: Dave Lap him alongside our very special guest Jeff Hobson
Speaker 2: of Bengals dot Com. We want don't want to leave
Speaker 2: the defense out of this which forces five turnovers, and
Speaker 2: talking about guys that show up on a sheet where
Speaker 2: you're making notes. Let's start with Miles Murphy, who I
Speaker 2: know there was there's been frustration and wait of is
Speaker 2: it going to kick in? When is it going to
Speaker 2: kick in? Seems like it's kicking in. Miles Murphy is
Speaker 2: on a roll.
Speaker 12: You know left you know this every time he talked
Speaker 12: to Miles, he always talks about being violent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, about being violent.
Speaker 12: He was violent the other night, I thought, you know,
Speaker 12: and it's when you play them, when you play Baltimore,
Speaker 12: it's so important to set the h you know, because
Speaker 12: Lama will just even if Lami is not Lami.
Speaker 4: They'll still they'll still kill you. Yeah, he'll still kill
Speaker 4: you with that run game.
Speaker 3: No doubt. And uh talk to him in the locker
Speaker 3: room after the game, and he was uh quick to
Speaker 3: credit BJ Hill for his effort. They ran a lot
Speaker 3: of twists and stunts on pass rush, and uh, he
Speaker 3: came clean a couple of times. BJ did a good
Speaker 3: job of grabbing two guys and and Miles Murphy came
Speaker 3: clean and you know, made some plays, got some hits
Speaker 3: on the quarterback. I like the kid though. The kid's
Speaker 3: very smart. He's very recollective. Yeah, very very uh very
Speaker 3: I mean he's uh not introverted, that's not the right
Speaker 3: word for it, but very introspective. I guess something like that.
Speaker 3: He's he's one of those one of those kind of
Speaker 3: guys that's a deep thinker kind of guy for you know,
Speaker 3: as people say, for a football player, man, you're a
Speaker 3: pretty deep thinker, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Tell you know, what a guy.
Speaker 12: I've a I've always loved those because I just think
Speaker 12: he's all out. He's just a football player, athlete and
Speaker 12: and and he's just been hurt by the injury. But
Speaker 12: if you know, if you guys remember in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 12: he had a great run in the last stretch of
Speaker 12: twenty twenty two and everybody wants to remember they hit
Speaker 12: on Mahomes. Well, I remember that series. They were third
Speaker 12: and five because of josephos right on that because he
Speaker 12: made so many he made many big plays in that game.
Speaker 12: And unfortunately that last play. I mean, she said, I
Speaker 12: don't mind him trying to tackle Patrick Mahomes. I mean
Speaker 12: he's running down the sideline with my with my playoff bonus, right,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, Please please please chase them down, right,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean. So I don't know, I
Speaker 12: still don't understand that hit. But maybe I'm a little
Speaker 12: bit too personal.
Speaker 3: But let me agree.
Speaker 12: Let me ask you this lab about the defense, and
Speaker 12: I I mean, I thought the last two weeks, I
Speaker 12: thought they put Drake May. I thought they did a
Speaker 12: good job with pressure on Drake May. And I thought
Speaker 12: they really did a good job. Obviously, pressure led to
Speaker 12: it like two or three of the turnovers. Yeah, so
Speaker 12: you know, so they had been I think they were
Speaker 12: they had had the fewest the lowest flits percentage. I
Speaker 12: think I think Al's gonna I mean, I thought, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: I thought they might have let Drake Mayo off the
Speaker 12: hook a little bit. I think they could have, uh,
Speaker 12: because they blitzed him, well, I thought. And then I
Speaker 12: thought they really came up big. I mean, I you know,
Speaker 12: I salute Al because I think he's he's you know,
Speaker 12: he's been getting a lot of heat.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think Zach said this kind of
Speaker 4: alluded to this Friday that you know a lot of
Speaker 4: young guys out there. Yeah, and you know it's not
Speaker 4: you can't just come out blitz them with these.
Speaker 2: Guys, right, you know that was gonna be my question.
Speaker 2: Are they blitzing more out of necessity or is it
Speaker 2: more because there's a better understanding of what they want?
Speaker 2: Or is it a combination of both.
Speaker 3: Probably I think it's a combination. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think I think that you know, Al Golden, Al Goldon
Speaker 3: is a smart cat man. He is He's got his
Speaker 3: doctorate in defense and and uh, and he has a
Speaker 3: he has a way of teaching a methodology, you know,
Speaker 3: and uh, particularly with young guys, you know, he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to speed the process up too much, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think I think we're going to see a
Speaker 3: lot more blitzing, a lot more creative looks in the
Speaker 3: blitz packages as the season wears on here. Uh that's uh,
Speaker 3: that's kind of an m O with l Golden.
Speaker 12: Yeah, because I mean they got the I think they
Speaker 12: have the corners that can cover even without camp Taylor Britd.
Speaker 4: I think Dax Hill and.
Speaker 3: DJ Turner's having a hell of a year. Man. DJ
Speaker 3: Turner and Dax Hill, both both those guys are as
Speaker 3: good open field tacklers as I've seen this year in
Speaker 3: the league. They get people on the ground, man, they
Speaker 3: really do the job.
Speaker 12: Skinny made an interesting but Richard Skinner we were talking
Speaker 12: about DJ Turner and he says he's got to the
Speaker 12: point now where if somebody makes a catch on him,
Speaker 12: you're looking for yea. And it has been the last
Speaker 12: two times like it's been a big play, it's been
Speaker 12: offensive as an affair, he's been really good.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we shouldn't leave Jordan battle out, who hustled
Speaker 2: back on the play, knocks it away. That's going to
Speaker 2: be a touchdown, right, and suddenly it's Bengals football.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I guess, I guess. I guess that will end
Speaker 12: all conversation about character and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I guess. I mean, there's no substitute for hustle, many hustle, energy, enthusiasm,
Speaker 3: all those intangibles.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a lot.
Speaker 12: I'm sure it's on Zach's tape to show the players,
Speaker 12: and it should be on every and greater, every greater
Speaker 12: Cincinnati High school football coaches tape that Jordan Battle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you use the word energy, and I want to
Speaker 2: apply it to Joe, And I was struck by can't
Speaker 2: remember if Orlando said it to you or one of
Speaker 2: the other writers. How Joe is the engine of this
Speaker 2: team and there is clearly a a lifting and an
Speaker 2: energy like a plug in a socket into the wall,
Speaker 2: like now we go, Joe is here with this team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just that's it's it's always been
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 12: Was that way when he showed up in COVID and
Speaker 12: nobody knew what was going on, but you knew that
Speaker 12: that guy was something special, even though everybody was wearing
Speaker 12: masks and kind of on eggshells, that guy, and he's
Speaker 12: been he's been special ever since. And I thought, uh,
Speaker 12: you know, you guys heard him. I thought he was
Speaker 12: really that's about as emotional as I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Walking about that absolutely.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean that was that was interesting to me,
Speaker 12: you know, and that and to me, that's the difference
Speaker 12: between maybe Joe Burrow, who turns twenty nine next week,
Speaker 12: if that's at all possible, opposed to a Joe Burrow
Speaker 12: who was maybe you know, twenty three, twenty four. You live,
Speaker 12: you know, things mean more to you, mean more to
Speaker 12: you as you get older. And that's I think that
Speaker 12: goes for all of us alive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, father time keeps ticking on, man, the stand keeps
Speaker 3: coming out of the whatever the hell.
Speaker 12: It's just interesting to see how much we've seen him, Yeah,
Speaker 12: seen him, you know, even though I mean he keeps things,
Speaker 12: you know, talk about a guy, he keeps things close
Speaker 12: to them, no doubt. And who's an but who's an
Speaker 12: introspective guy. Yeah, you know, but you know he's letting us,
Speaker 12: he's let us watch them grow.
Speaker 3: Yep, no question, you wrote about it.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about it and I want
Speaker 2: to give him some love because we're going to hear
Speaker 2: him get a game ball later on in the the
Speaker 2: third hour. Tell listeners they may have heard the name
Speaker 2: Jeff Brickner. Tell listeners who he is and the role
Speaker 2: he played in Salvaging Wednesday Night.
Speaker 4: Jeff Brickner does it all.
Speaker 12: He's like, he's like an astronaut on a spacewalk, but
Speaker 12: twenty four but twenty four to seven. He does everything
Speaker 12: you can ask. I mean from you know, fixing my
Speaker 12: desk draw, getting somebody, getting somebody to fish my dest draw,
Speaker 12: to get these guys to Baltimore time and everything in between.
Speaker 12: And a Jeff Brickner trip usually right to the itinerary,
Speaker 12: right to the minute. You know, well, this was not
Speaker 12: this was not this was uh we've all been he
Speaker 12: could right, no, no, and and and and the thing
Speaker 12: was what he had waiting back when he had waiting
Speaker 12: in Baltimore was a Thanksgiving feast that would make Miles
Speaker 12: Standish crush, right. I mean it was amazing and he
Speaker 12: couldn't get there, and he couldn't but he get everybody.
Speaker 12: But he get everybody there, you know, uh, complete complete
Speaker 12: with a Zach Taylor boarding announcement.
Speaker 3: Yeah and uh.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be boarding there. But Hobson co
Speaker 12: goes in last. But I think what happened was the
Speaker 12: uh you know, we everybody get to the hotel, and
Speaker 12: it was, uh it was it was as good brick
Speaker 12: could make it, as good as a good bea.
Speaker 4: So I think the game ball is a salute to
Speaker 4: you know, his body of work.
Speaker 3: And that you know, uh body works a good way
Speaker 3: to put it because he will not Initially he was
Speaker 3: an assistant trainer. He was taking ankles. Yes, I mean
Speaker 3: the guy was basically uh Marv Pollin's guy that was
Speaker 3: was as lackey.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like he's like, I'm gonna give you all the
Speaker 3: crap jobs to do, and you're gonna do him. You're
Speaker 3: gonna do a smile on your face. He's he's done everything.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's drained the hot tubs, he's you
Speaker 3: name it, he's he's done it all. And uh, nobody
Speaker 3: knows more about the inner workings of the organization than
Speaker 3: Jeff Brickner because he's he's been in meetings with Mike
Speaker 3: and uh the Blackburn and Brown family that nobody has
Speaker 3: been in and and things have been talked about that
Speaker 3: nobody else is part of other than you know, Brick's
Speaker 3: the only one outside of the immediate family, the blood
Speaker 3: related family that's part of that.
Speaker 12: I mean, he and Micah and Mike close. I mean
Speaker 12: they're you know, they talk, you know, I mean, Jeff's
Speaker 12: his guy, he Mike uh, Jeff Britton to make sure
Speaker 12: Mike's gets on the bus safely every single week. That
Speaker 12: he looks at that as one of his prime responsibilities,
Speaker 12: to make sure that Mike Brown is okay and traveling
Speaker 12: safely to and from uh the the airport in the stadium, Bengals.
Speaker 2: So explain to me what what happened. I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: It's mechanical issues and it's five and a half hours
Speaker 2: sitting on the plane. I would have lost my mind.
Speaker 2: How do you sit on a plane five and a
Speaker 2: half hours?
Speaker 4: I mean I'm terrible. Yeah, I mean I worked, so
Speaker 4: I was I had an out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: In fact, Browning, Jake Browning came down. Jake Browne was
Speaker 4: making it. He was almost like the host.
Speaker 3: It was like the mayor, the mayor of the flight.
Speaker 12: He's coming in checking on uh. Yeah, kind of watched
Speaker 12: me typing and scowled, but uh, you know it was Yeah.
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know what guys did. I guess
Speaker 12: that would have been a good opportunity for me to
Speaker 12: but I figured guys, I just figured guys weren't probably
Speaker 12: in a good root.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I know, I know a lot of that.
Speaker 3: I went back to take a leak at one point,
Speaker 3: and everybody was watching their movies, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean there those those movies on those flights are pretty impressive.
Speaker 12: It's not like getting marooned in nineteen seventy three. People
Speaker 12: had things to do, right, and I, uh, you know,
Speaker 12: they don't want to see me anyway, So I would
Speaker 12: imagine in a close quarters for five hours, I just.
Speaker 4: I kept a little profile.
Speaker 12: But everybody, like, you know, Zach made a good point,
Speaker 12: it was a good time to probably it was a
Speaker 12: good bonding thing, good bonding. Yeah, And he made an
Speaker 12: interesting point like like I said, Brick had that miles
Speaker 12: Standish feast and uh it was tremendous, and but everybody
Speaker 12: instead of putting it in a box and going up
Speaker 12: going upstairs to their rooms, they all stay right, Yeah,
Speaker 12: more bonding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which was which was?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: I think, uh a lot of guys would have you know.
Speaker 3: I think possibly as if it turns out that way,
Speaker 3: if the Bengals do make the playoffs, they're going to
Speaker 3: point back to this and say this was the turning
Speaker 3: point and could have fallen apart, could have had, you know,
Speaker 3: major problems, major issues. But guys, you know, showed some maturity,
Speaker 3: showed some growth, and and won that football game in
Speaker 3: spite of all the obstacles, went out and played a
Speaker 3: hell of a game, maybe their best game of the year,
Speaker 3: and from that point on they were hell on wheels,
Speaker 3: tough to deal with. All Right, we need to take
Speaker 3: a time out.
Speaker 2: What would I would I be able to convince you
Speaker 2: to stay for one more segment to talk about the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame? Sure, we've we've overextended you to this
Speaker 2: point based on our promises to you. Would you give
Speaker 2: us one more segment? I'd love to talk about the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: We'll let me let me unleash mys.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, well that'll be good. That is that's a
Speaker 3: good word.
Speaker 2: Bengals Out of the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Welcome back Bengals Line on this
Speaker 2: Monday night on the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen
Speaker 2: thirty Lights by cantlister Dave Lapplem. We'll call this a
Speaker 2: bonus segment, yes with Jeff Hobson of Bengals dot Com
Speaker 2: because we must probe your mind on the Pro Football
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame and for those who don't know, what
Speaker 2: is your involvement or role or how how do you
Speaker 2: factor into the Hall of Fame in the voting prices.
Speaker 12: I'm a I'm the Cincinnati voter, so and I have
Speaker 12: been for ten years and so I'm a member of
Speaker 12: that fifty member committee that cuts the you know that
Speaker 12: that votes on all the major categories. I'm also this year.
Speaker 12: I was also my first year, I was on the
Speaker 12: Senior Committee, which their start. They rotate that now, right,
Speaker 12: So it's been an honor to do that. And it's
Speaker 12: a great thrill to you know, be a factor and
Speaker 12: you know, seeing who goes who goes in, and who doesn't,
Speaker 12: and it's uh take it with uh, you know, the
Speaker 12: most important you know, besides working for the Bengals every day.
Speaker 4: It's the most important thing I've done in my career.
Speaker 12: And uh, you know, it's a it's interesting because serving
Speaker 12: on you know, you serve with you know, you serve
Speaker 12: with different people on the committee, and every everybody's does
Speaker 12: great research, you know, and you learn so much when
Speaker 12: you go in these things. And I think the Keith
Speaker 12: thing is having the open mind, and uh, you know,
Speaker 12: I think, uh, you know, it's uh obviously I think
Speaker 12: all you know, probably all Hall of Fames get criticized
Speaker 12: if you're guys not in, you know. I mean, I know,
Speaker 12: as a Red Sox fan, when's Louis Tiant going to
Speaker 12: get in, right, you know? So but I'm it's I'm
Speaker 12: blessed to be able to do it. And I think,
Speaker 12: I think, what's happened I think, you know, I think
Speaker 12: in the last decade, I think with the help of
Speaker 12: Jim Foster, guys like yourself, guys like lap I think
Speaker 12: I've probably helped a little bit.
Speaker 4: But to give, you know, to.
Speaker 12: Show to the country that we, you know, profile raised.
Speaker 12: I think the profile of the great Bengals players I
Speaker 12: think has been raised.
Speaker 4: And I think that's a good thing, whether they get
Speaker 4: in or not.
Speaker 12: I mean, I think, uh, I think what I think
Speaker 12: what Elizabeth Blackburn has done here with the Ring of
Speaker 12: Honor has helped has helped raise that profile us and uh,
Speaker 12: you know used you know, I think it's you know,
Speaker 12: guys like Ken Anderson and Willie Anderson when they're up
Speaker 12: for the Hall Bengals Ring of Honor. You know that
Speaker 12: means something, you know, right, yes, Isaac, I mean all
Speaker 12: those guys who have Hall of Fame cases, uh you know,
Speaker 12: and well and they all have Hall of Fame races.
Speaker 12: I mean we're talking you know, a guy like Max Montoya, sure,
Speaker 12: you know, and it's uh, it's it's amazing. The great
Speaker 12: Ron Borges told me, who has served on many senior committees,
Speaker 12: Globe and I never really the Boston, Boston Globe, Boston
Speaker 12: hero and I and I never really realized any and
Speaker 12: he covered the Raiders too out out in Oakland.
Speaker 3: Covered in high school. Yeah, he came to my house
Speaker 3: in high school, did an interview. Wow. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: look at my mother.
Speaker 5: You know who that is.
Speaker 3: You know who that is.
Speaker 12: That's what I tell him now. When I talked to
Speaker 12: him on the phone, I said, you know what I says, unbelievable.
Speaker 12: I'm talking to Ron Bosch.
Speaker 4: You know, you'd say, you know, pretty high boiled guy.
Speaker 4: Stop it, Hobby.
Speaker 12: But you know it's it's I think it's uh, you know,
Speaker 12: I don't know it's uh. Ron Boys just would say
Speaker 12: in that senior committee, they're a Hall of Famer. When
Speaker 12: you're making the moves of cutting guys, hall of Famers
Speaker 12: are just falling on the floor, and everybody's worthy, everybody's
Speaker 12: worthy exactly.
Speaker 2: That senior committee includes the the the nine r Kenny
Speaker 2: Anderson is one of the nine, and the expectation is,
Speaker 2: at least, reading the Hall of Fame website, the announcement
Speaker 2: could come, should come this week and we'll find out
Speaker 2: if Kenny advances to the next day. Is a final list,
Speaker 2: I believe terminology.
Speaker 3: The final five three.
Speaker 12: Goes nine to three committee on the and they will
Speaker 12: join those three will join seventeen others on the finals ballot.
Speaker 12: There'll be three SoRs, one coach nominee, and one contributor,
Speaker 12: and then there'll be fifteen modern era finals.
Speaker 2: Including potentially Williams.
Speaker 12: Not potentially he is he will he is a finalist
Speaker 12: automatically because he finished in the UH top seven last year,
Speaker 12: which is a new which is a new voting procedure.
Speaker 3: To figure craft and Belichick will be the odds on
Speaker 3: guys and then.
Speaker 12: Who knows, you know, who knows? I think it's just
Speaker 12: it's you know, uh, like I said, three H three,
Speaker 12: I believe it's three out of the uh three from
Speaker 12: the UH from the coaching tributors, coaching contributors and seniors.
Speaker 12: Three can come out of there. So it's uh, you know,
Speaker 12: it's it's they made it tough for the last couple
Speaker 12: of years to get in. I think I think that's
Speaker 12: what the Hall wanted to do. And that's who really
Speaker 12: is is it's uh, the Hall of Fame and and.
Speaker 4: The Board of Trustees. You know, we're really uh, you know,
Speaker 4: we we serve at their pleasure.
Speaker 2: Now I've heard this in the past, and I don't
Speaker 2: know where this is in the process or if you're
Speaker 2: still involved with it, but for each candidate, does someone
Speaker 2: act as a presenter in the room for their case?
Speaker 4: Does that happen?
Speaker 12: There's a yeah, there's a presenter that still happens, and
Speaker 12: and and it's a five minute presentation. And there's debate,
Speaker 12: and there's and there's debate, and I, like I say,
Speaker 12: I think it's a all these guys take it so seriously.
Speaker 12: The men and women on the committees that I've been
Speaker 12: on and it's a it's it's a very deliberative process
Speaker 12: and debates are amazing, and it's uh, you know, it's
Speaker 12: uh as many ways to skin a cap. But I
Speaker 12: think that's about as good as it I think that's
Speaker 12: about as good as it gets.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 12: So, I mean, it's all these guys should be in,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, it's and but that's why
Speaker 12: it's a Hall of Fame, right, and you know, my
Speaker 12: my thing is is and Paul Daners says, this will
Speaker 12: probably be on my tombstone, which is is in the
Speaker 12: Hall of Fame. We have too many uh uh, very
Speaker 12: good players on great teams in there and not enough
Speaker 12: great players Hall of Fame players on bad teams or
Speaker 12: or it's not even bad teams that didn't win a
Speaker 12: Super Bowl, right, And I understand it because these guys
Speaker 12: are and I understand because I talked to a lot
Speaker 12: of guys. We'll say, well, you know this guy was
Speaker 12: he was on teams at one but like my agument
Speaker 12: for Kenny is he was the reason they were there,
Speaker 12: you know, a major the major reason they.
Speaker 4: Were there, no doubt.
Speaker 12: So I mean, but obviously guys like guyas that and
Speaker 12: you know, I mean guys like I just Isaac and
Speaker 12: Lamiro and Kenny Riley obviously were his teammates, but Kenny
Speaker 12: was a quarterback sure, so uh, you know, but that's
Speaker 12: my thing is that's another reason I'm glad to see
Speaker 12: the profile raise, not only of the Bengals, but for
Speaker 12: you know, teams that are in small markets don't maybe
Speaker 12: don't have a string of Super Bowl champions. You know,
Speaker 12: their players are just as good as you know, I mean, uh,
Speaker 12: what's been out there. And I think Kenny Riley and
Speaker 12: the you know, I mean, you know, statistically, Kenny Riley
Speaker 12: should have been in five years after he retired.
Speaker 3: I just wish, like a lot of people do, I
Speaker 3: just wish we had won a super Bowl for him
Speaker 3: if he if he if Kenny Anderson had a super
Speaker 3: Bowl on that resume, I think that would be the
Speaker 3: cherry on top.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I think I think he'd be you know, and maybe
Speaker 3: I'm over simplifying it, but I think I think a
Speaker 3: super Bowl champion. You know, Dan Foulson never won, and
Speaker 3: he got in. I mean, there's exceptions rerule, but you know,
Speaker 3: he he was. He broke every record in every passing
Speaker 3: category there is known demand with the Air Corriel. I
Speaker 3: mean it was different, a different deal. But I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 3: Kenny Anderson, as good as there ever was is accurate.
Speaker 3: I mean that was the thing with him. His accuracy
Speaker 3: was stupid good.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I remember him in the off season.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 3: He would say, all right, get thirty yards away from me.
Speaker 3: We're gonna play a little catch.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 3: All right now, now that I warm my arm up
Speaker 3: a little bit, I'm loose right naval, right shoulder, left knee.
Speaker 3: It's like, what the hell unbelievable how he could control
Speaker 3: a football and how accurate he was doing a football.
Speaker 12: The only guy to win uh to uh, the only
Speaker 12: guy to win two playoff games on two different planets
Speaker 12: uh obviously Earth and then the AFC title game the Freezable.
Speaker 12: I don't know what planet that day. I guess it's hot,
Speaker 12: right would that be? But uh, I know I know
Speaker 12: one thing. It was damn cold Rome Death.
Speaker 2: You have been tremendous with your time. We have greatly
Speaker 2: overextended you, but the content you provided was tremendous, So
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 4: Hope to do it again. Thank you very much for
Speaker 4: having me on. Let's not make it another down let's
Speaker 4: not make it another decade until we go face today. Hey,
Speaker 4: the Red Sox are the Red Sox rent opening opening day.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, that's right. You know they're huge. Big thank you, sir,
Speaker 12: Thank you, Thank you. Bengals Ring of Imember Dave Lapham, Yes,
Speaker 12: a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Take a time out of continue. It's Bengals N, Bengals
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Speaker 2: But calestter Dave Lapham very much enjoyed Jeff Hopson hanging
Speaker 2: out with us. You know, Jeff mentioned and you alluded
Speaker 2: to it after all the travel adventures on on Wednesday,
Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving meal in the ballroom, and the players could
Speaker 2: have taken their meals gone to their rooms, but they
Speaker 2: hung out together. And I heard you and Wayne box
Speaker 2: Miller on Friday talking about how Box looked in the
Speaker 2: lunch cafeteria the other day and there was a group
Speaker 2: of players from different position groups hanging out together, and
Speaker 2: just the value of the cohesiveness of this team and
Speaker 2: how it's probably helped them navigate a lot of adversity
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, no question about it. You know,
Speaker 3: it's uh, pro sports or sports in general. It's it's
Speaker 3: conducive to that sort of thing. It's conducive to that
Speaker 3: kind of bonding and those kind of friendships, a family
Speaker 3: atmosphere that you know will never go away, those bonds
Speaker 3: will never be broken. Uh and uh ten fifteen, twenty
Speaker 3: years when you're after finished planning, you remember that. Remember
Speaker 3: that Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: We were like five hours?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we gonna do? Five hours? It's like
Speaker 3: we sat around, we talked about everything and anything and nothing,
Speaker 3: you know, nothing at all. And uh, and you know,
Speaker 3: I really got to know. I'm so so it was
Speaker 3: a pretty good guy man, you know, and wanted to
Speaker 3: ended up wanting to spend more time with that guy.
Speaker 3: And you know, he's got a wife and he's got kids,
Speaker 3: and I've got wife and kids, and we all ended
Speaker 3: up doing some things together, and our kids learned about
Speaker 3: Cincinnati together. They went to the Cincinnati zo they went
Speaker 3: to the aquarium, They went to all these different places together,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And I think you referred to it on Friday as
Speaker 2: the cross pollination of your time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it really and that that's exactly the word
Speaker 3: that Paul Brown used when I mean back, Like in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four rookie year, it was like, we are
Speaker 3: we are gonna be a family, We are going to
Speaker 3: be a close football team. We are gonna have the
Speaker 3: other gentleman's back, the guy that you're playing next to,
Speaker 3: You're gonna have his back, He's going to have your back.
Speaker 3: And it was it was. It was a close knit group,
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. And Paul Brown knew what he was doing.
Speaker 3: He knew what he was talking about. Even Otto Graham
Speaker 3: and the great, the great players with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: He said, those guys were family and they were at
Speaker 3: their kids in great kids' weddings, you know, and unfortunately
Speaker 3: in some cases funerals, And you know, it's it's a
Speaker 3: cycle of life, is what it is, no question.
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Speaker 2: Taylor met with the media today coming off the buy
Speaker 2: with thoughts on Thursday Night, reflecting back on the win
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Speaker 2: You'll hear Sean McDermott, head coach of the Bills, his
Speaker 2: opening thoughts on their impressive win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor with the media earlier today. Let's get the
Speaker 2: thoughts from the coach upon reflecting on Thursday night, the
Speaker 2: mini bye and now looking ahead to the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2: Here's Bengals head coach Zach Taylor.
Speaker 11: He was good, He's doing great.
Speaker 16: He's so in protocol so him and Tage will keep
Speaker 16: working through that ply in the week, so we'll see
Speaker 16: where it is.
Speaker 9: Up Trey in the next This week.
Speaker 8: This week, Samar's yeah, always on my ring that I
Speaker 8: was like, I'm mathlong here.
Speaker 11: His final game.
Speaker 9: I think he's part of this. How's he been progressing?
Speaker 11: We'll see what end up next week?
Speaker 17: Is this?
Speaker 9: I think this will be traced fourth game.
Speaker 4: Is there any.
Speaker 11: Consideration to put him on I r no, We'll just
Speaker 11: keep taking a week to week.
Speaker 9: He's still doing all the normal meetings everything behind the scenes.
Speaker 11: That mostly rehab, so with the trainers.
Speaker 9: You had just been getting him back at all of
Speaker 9: this season.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we'll just keep taking a week to week.
Speaker 9: What was the South scout like over the by? What
Speaker 9: was the what did over the weekend?
Speaker 18: I guess what did you guys want to accomplish as
Speaker 18: y'all get ready for the next game.
Speaker 16: Just get ahead for Buffalo really, I mean, got a
Speaker 16: chance for review our game. Just make sure we got
Speaker 16: them obviously in two weeks, so you want to make
Speaker 16: sure you put that to bed the right way because
Speaker 16: it's a quick turnaround for them, and then just you know,
Speaker 16: steal an extra time for Buffaloe, which I thought we did.
Speaker 16: It's good you got a chance to watching football yesterday
Speaker 16: while you're working.
Speaker 11: And it's good.
Speaker 9: How did Joe come through the weekend.
Speaker 16: Seemingly fine? I'm sure there's some soreness there that you know.
Speaker 16: I'm sure you guys can ask him, but to my iPhone.
Speaker 11: One day.
Speaker 18: At the start of the season, Dalton Riisner was playing
Speaker 18: to the point where you ended up going with Jalen Rivers.
Speaker 9: But it felt like Sinstallton's come back. He's you know,
Speaker 9: played even better than he has earlier in the year.
Speaker 9: What have you seen from him the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 16: You know, when we got him, he hadn't done anything,
Speaker 16: you know, for six months, so I think that was
Speaker 16: a little bit to be expected. But I've liked how
Speaker 16: he's played, the energy's played with. I think we've got
Speaker 16: a good mix of guys in there, you know, even
Speaker 16: guys that are you know, been injured and have been backups,
Speaker 16: and so I feel really good about our starters or
Speaker 16: depth and and just where we're at at this point
Speaker 16: the season out on.
Speaker 9: Line, What have you seen from Fairchild twelve games through?
Speaker 16: Yeah, just continues to progress and get better and sees
Speaker 16: new looks and does a good job taking the coaching
Speaker 16: from Scott and Mike and Ted and Orlando and those
Speaker 16: around him, and just continues to progress.
Speaker 11: And so that's been really pleasant to see.
Speaker 19: There's an old adage when you get around this time
Speaker 19: of the year where people say rookies aren't rookies anymore.
Speaker 5: Win in your mind as a guy no longer a.
Speaker 16: Rook Yeah, I think, you know, at the midpoint of
Speaker 16: the year, you really want them to progress through that
Speaker 16: There's still going to be things that they're learning. It's
Speaker 16: a it's a fun thing to say, but you know,
Speaker 16: you can't replicate experience, and so they got to continue
Speaker 16: to get that experience. And especially for a lot of guys,
Speaker 16: maybe that didn't start right away once the season went,
Speaker 16: you know, and their playing time has increased as has gone.
Speaker 16: So I think everybody's a little differently. Depends on the
Speaker 16: position you're playing, depends on the experience you're gaining. But
Speaker 16: I really like how all of our rookies are progressing.
Speaker 16: I think that they're all doing a nice job of
Speaker 16: learning and not making repeat mistakes and have an ownership
Speaker 16: their position and adding value to our team.
Speaker 20: Specifically in xact with Barrett Carter, what have you liked
Speaker 20: about the way he's embrace that moles everything that comes.
Speaker 16: With Yeah, his command with the position, you know, it's
Speaker 16: a vocal position to have the green dot and be
Speaker 16: able to communicate like he has and just continue to progress,
Speaker 16: you know, I mean I can't think of how many
Speaker 16: games he started now, you know, six maybe six games,
Speaker 16: and so just continue and learn, and that's where he's going.
Speaker 9: Of course, just going back to Joe's touchdown pass.
Speaker 11: And yeah, just thoughts on that and also just as kind.
Speaker 9: Of astical those two guys seem to have you know,
Speaker 9: since the minute.
Speaker 16: You know, yeah, I think it was, you know, that
Speaker 16: was That's a play we we've had him for for
Speaker 16: a while now, and Joe really did a good job
Speaker 16: buying some time outside the pocket. Because it's a longer
Speaker 16: developing play. It can it can unfold two ways. You
Speaker 16: can either win right out of the break because they've
Speaker 16: had poor eyes in the backfield.
Speaker 11: Hamilton did not have poor eyes.
Speaker 16: You know, he did a good job stating and face
Speaker 16: and Joe really put it the only spot that Tanner
Speaker 16: could have caught that ball, and Tanner could have only
Speaker 16: caught that ball one handed base on where Hamilton was at,
Speaker 16: and it was really good coverage and just outstanding throw,
Speaker 16: outstanding catch, huge for a momentum at that point.
Speaker 11: So it was a really big point in that game.
Speaker 16: Was there's no question, Yeah, I mean it's it's he's
Speaker 16: not standing player, you know, he's I wouldn't even call
Speaker 16: him the safety really, he's he plays linebacker and d
Speaker 16: N and covers people and whatever you want to That's
Speaker 16: a true Swiss arm knife to me. Uh So, again,
Speaker 16: it was a great play versus a great player and
Speaker 16: something we really needed at that point.
Speaker 14: As of me defensively in recent weeks, how much of
Speaker 14: it do you think kind of just stems directly back
Speaker 14: to just seeing more pressure from some of your young
Speaker 14: defensive linemen at this point.
Speaker 9: Is that kind of the biggest difference that you think
Speaker 9: you've seen.
Speaker 16: I think it helps everybody's just starting to really settle
Speaker 16: into their position as they get more playing time and
Speaker 16: more confidence in the scheme and playing next to guys,
Speaker 16: and you just see all eleven guys all at once
Speaker 16: really just step into it and have great ownership and
Speaker 16: what we're asking to do, and confidence to go in
Speaker 16: there and make plays, confidence to go win some one
Speaker 16: on ones up front and apply pressure. And once you
Speaker 16: start doing that a couple of times, sorry, I'm going
Speaker 16: to continue to do this, and and then the takeaways
Speaker 16: start coming too. So again it's it's fun to watch
Speaker 16: those guys have fun, play with confidence.
Speaker 11: That's exciting for me.
Speaker 14: To see a guy like Miles chasing down Derek Henry
Speaker 14: forty yards down the field.
Speaker 16: Tell you about where he's at his passion for the game.
Speaker 16: I mean, he's made of the right stuff, and he's
Speaker 16: continued to work every day. He's been in here all season,
Speaker 16: and you know, it's it's I'm really excited for Miles
Speaker 16: to see all that hard work start to pay off
Speaker 16: and the consistency come and it's been a really good
Speaker 16: He's and easy got to pull for, and so it's
Speaker 16: it's exciting to see him make some plays like that. Ever,
Speaker 16: plays too are huge. You know, that's even though it's
Speaker 16: way down the field. It's our team sees that in
Speaker 16: the film. They see all that stuff, guys really putting
Speaker 16: all out there, and he did that. Jordan Battle had
Speaker 16: the one on the goal line. So those are those
Speaker 16: are critical plays for our guess that's.
Speaker 9: You guys feature. I mean we get into them me
Speaker 9: to do, get into meetings and feature.
Speaker 11: It depends on the week.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it depends on the week, depends on the tone
Speaker 16: of the meeting. Plenty of times we highlight stuff like
Speaker 16: that with how k out of the AFC North is
Speaker 16: this year.
Speaker 19: How do you make sure the guys are just doing
Speaker 19: it on a week two week basis, not looking outside.
Speaker 11: Although I really feel like I've had to worry about that.
Speaker 16: You know, we we have our messaging each week that
Speaker 16: we follow and I've never felt the need to make
Speaker 16: sure that we're just focused on the week. I think
Speaker 16: those guys have done a really good job of doing that,
Speaker 16: and you know that's that's the most critical point. It's
Speaker 16: just got to play Buffalo, need to win the game
Speaker 16: and worry about the rest after that.
Speaker 18: Giving as a result on Thursday and then kind of
Speaker 18: how things have played out in the North, especially over
Speaker 18: the weekend.
Speaker 9: Does it still feel like everything's in front of you
Speaker 9: as you go into this one.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's exciting to know there's still opportunity there, but again,
Speaker 16: you just have to take a week to week. Us
Speaker 16: being Baltimore has nothing to do with how we're going
Speaker 16: to play against Buffalo. So our guys understand that still
Speaker 16: a day here with the bonus day and got to
Speaker 16: have a great week and it's gonna be tough environment
Speaker 16: to go on the road there.
Speaker 11: It's always a tough place to play.
Speaker 16: It's gonna be loud, it's gonna be cold, probably gonna
Speaker 16: be windy, and so our guys as gotta be ready
Speaker 16: to embrace all that.
Speaker 20: How much do you subscribe to the theory that, especially
Speaker 20: come decembery to be able to at some point be
Speaker 20: able to run the ball with authority in the climent weather.
Speaker 11: We're throwing the ball out in December two. It's been
Speaker 11: successful for us.
Speaker 16: So we're just gonna keep playing our style and and
Speaker 16: sometimes we played plenty of games where we've leaned on
Speaker 16: the run, plenty of games where we've leaned in the
Speaker 16: past game. So again it's it's what's your style play,
Speaker 16: what's your identity as a team, how's the game going.
Speaker 16: There's a lot of things that factor into how the
Speaker 16: game is going to play out. But you're not gonna
Speaker 16: pin me down and say we're gonna run the ball
Speaker 16: sixty times in a game just because it's simmer outside.
Speaker 16: We're going to run the ball and you have to
Speaker 16: do well, yeah, that's a unique circumstance. We're gonna do
Speaker 16: whatever it takes to win the game, you know. And
Speaker 16: I feel like we've always done that, and there's been
Speaker 16: games certainly I can think of in December where we've
Speaker 16: gone in there and how to do a great job
Speaker 16: establishing the run and defenses played great, so you can
Speaker 16: stick with it throughout the game, and you know, we'll
Speaker 16: see the type of game this turns out to be.
Speaker 3: Play you guys with authority.
Speaker 11: I guess what I'm kind of thinking about.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know that that game it allowed us, just
Speaker 16: the way that the game played out, we were allowed
Speaker 16: to stick with that kind of stuff and our defense
Speaker 16: that played really well that day, and you know, so
Speaker 16: again we just will do whatever it takes to win.
Speaker 9: What what did you ask Joe this?
Speaker 10: So I'd be a better question for him.
Speaker 9: But with the weather, when you're talking about the.
Speaker 21: Weather being kind of up and there right now, and
Speaker 21: with plate in his shoe, is there any conversations about
Speaker 21: maybe doing something different?
Speaker 9: Like does that create any issues?
Speaker 11: Maybe?
Speaker 9: What did you learn that day about snow games? You
Speaker 9: don't get them too often?
Speaker 16: You know, you'd have to ask Joe. I think, uh,
Speaker 16: traction on the ball, you know, I I don't. I
Speaker 16: haven't thrown much in snow games. You know, rain is
Speaker 16: often the biggest issue. I'd say wind is a big issue.
Speaker 16: Snow would come in third behind that kind of stuff.
Speaker 16: So I think he could probably answer that question better
Speaker 16: having done it a lot more recently than anybody else.
Speaker 16: But again, I thought that day, you know, I thought
Speaker 16: he threw the ball pretty well, and it's you know,
Speaker 16: it's every sance. Just the wind can always factor into
Speaker 16: that a little bit, depending on how much that is.
Speaker 9: We went back and look at how he played on Thursday,
Speaker 9: and I can't review the tape. What was the biggest
Speaker 9: thing that jumped out.
Speaker 16: Of you, Well, just just how quickly he got into
Speaker 16: a rhythm. I think he'd sit here and say I
Speaker 16: missed this or missed that. I could feel the rhythm
Speaker 16: he got into and the and the confidence that he
Speaker 16: had when he was out there. So that's what we
Speaker 16: could feel as a team, you know, that that he
Speaker 16: was he was really back to mid season form for himself,
Speaker 16: even though I again I don't know how he's gonna
Speaker 16: answer that, but for us certainly watching him, he felt
Speaker 16: that and and just I think has had a lot
Speaker 16: of confidence watching him out there.
Speaker 18: When you have your franchise quarterback that it's the team
Speaker 18: is invested in, committed to any back in the locker
Speaker 18: room and the rally guys does that phrase everybody and
Speaker 18: just subconsciously knowing that that's the guy who's kind of
Speaker 18: everything's built around and he's in the building.
Speaker 11: And all of that.
Speaker 9: What does that do for everybody?
Speaker 16: He's in there, and he's one of the greatest players
Speaker 16: in the world, you know, And so I think anytime
Speaker 16: you get a player like that back on the field,
Speaker 16: absolutely it whether it's subconsciously or consciously, I mean, it's
Speaker 16: it's you're excited to watch that, and you're excited to
Speaker 16: rally behind that and and see where he can take you.
Speaker 7: It looked like Flacco was very interactive on the sideline
Speaker 7: against Baltimore Craig.
Speaker 9: Throw up for any and note just how much input
Speaker 9: he was giving after a series or is that just
Speaker 9: what you expect with who Joe Flacco is.
Speaker 16: Yeah, they, to my I have a really good relationship.
Speaker 16: So whatever they're talking about is all good. There's got
Speaker 16: to see it the same way as coaches do. I
Speaker 16: I'm not always back there, you know. I've kind of
Speaker 16: picked my spots to go back there between series, so
Speaker 16: I don't see it all or recap it all, but
Speaker 16: it is good to have as many I mean, we
Speaker 16: always travel our practice squad quarterback over the years, we
Speaker 16: want as many quarterbacks over there as possible, and somebody
Speaker 16: may see something that somebody else doesn't see. So I
Speaker 16: always think that's a good dialogue to have as many
Speaker 16: guys over there as possible, especially at the high level
Speaker 16: thinkers that we've gotten that room.
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor meeting with the media earlier today.
Speaker 3: Hang tight.
Speaker 2: More to get to in this hour. We'll talk some
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. You hear what Sean McDermott had to say
Speaker 2: is opening thoughts of their win over the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: yesterday and more as we cruise through our third hour
Speaker 2: tonight of Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's keep moving along
Speaker 2: on this Monday Night Bengals Lone oft the Bengals Radio
Speaker 2: Network at the ESBN fifteen thirty. We've talked about the
Speaker 2: Ravens win. Let's look go ahead of those Buffalo Bills. Now,
Speaker 2: Bills beat the Steelers yesterday in Buffalo twenty six to seven.
Speaker 2: The final the Bills went on the road rather yesterday
Speaker 2: twenty six to seven.
Speaker 3: Dave I got a.
Speaker 2: Couple of numbers that point to the clear and outright domination.
Speaker 3: The Bills showed yesterday.
Speaker 2: They controlled the clock for forty nearly forty two minutes,
Speaker 2: forty two to eighteen. They ran seventy four plays to
Speaker 2: forty three plays. They outgained the Steelers. This is incredible,
Speaker 2: three twenty two to one sixty six, and they held
Speaker 2: the Steelers to ten first downs the entire football game.
Speaker 3: Holy cow, it's unbelievable that that is a total butt whipping.
Speaker 3: That is domination. I don't think the Pittsburgh Steelers have
Speaker 3: lost a game at home like that in that man
Speaker 3: or for a long long time. I mean, I know
Speaker 3: I've met members of the Rooney family. I know how
Speaker 3: prideful they are, and they are pissed right now. There's
Speaker 3: no way they're not. And Aaron Rodgers, he looked his face.
Speaker 3: He looked just like bewildered and be fuddled. He looked
Speaker 3: like what just happened?
Speaker 2: He had ten completions state he went ten for twenty
Speaker 2: one for one hundred and seventeen yards.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, it really is.
Speaker 2: And how often does this happen to the Steelers. The
Speaker 2: Bills ran the ball fifty one times for two hundred
Speaker 2: and forty nine yards.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I mean, say, let's round it. You know,
Speaker 3: he carries for two hundred and fifty yards a pop
Speaker 3: on fifty attempts. That that's domination. That is that's winning
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. That's owning the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: It's just not letting you do any thing that you
Speaker 3: want to do and doing everything we want to do
Speaker 3: free and easy.
Speaker 14: Man.
Speaker 2: James Cook ran thirty two of them for one four
Speaker 2: and Dave. The Bills were without two of their starting tackles,
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown both were out. They plugged
Speaker 2: in two others, Ryan Van Denmark and Alec Anderson, and
Speaker 2: they do all that with to replacement offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: It's true, that's that's the other thing. You know, Dawkins played,
Speaker 3: somebody got nicked up again, had to had to leave
Speaker 3: the football game. But man, you talk about you look
Speaker 3: for depth. That's that's what you're trying to build on
Speaker 3: your on your roster, and particularly up front the offensive
Speaker 3: and defensive line. You know, you look for depth, and
Speaker 3: you have guys that have to play multiple positions because
Speaker 3: you're not going to carry you know, ten offensive linemen
Speaker 3: on the active roster. You know, every week, the numbers
Speaker 3: dictate that that's not necessarily feasible week in and week out.
Speaker 3: So uh, you know, for them to for them to
Speaker 3: be able to to plug and play like they did,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a testament to how those guys work,
Speaker 3: how they were ready to play mentally in physically understanding
Speaker 3: every assignment that they needed to he needed to understand
Speaker 3: every nuance of what they needed to do within that assignment.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 3: It was just a heck of a heck of an
Speaker 3: effort by the Buffalo Bills as an organization.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen throws just twenty three times. Yesterday he goes
Speaker 2: fifteen of twenty three. He had another rushing touchdown Dave.
Speaker 2: He now has the most rushing touchdowns by any quarterback
Speaker 2: in NFL history, passing Cam Newton. He's got seventy six
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown this season. Josh Allen has eleven rushing touchdown.
Speaker 3: That's sick. It is.
Speaker 2: That's just like you look at and say, well, that's
Speaker 2: not right. There's no way the quarterback touchdown.
Speaker 3: That is really amazing. And for him, you think about
Speaker 3: all the great quarterbacks that were dual threat quarterbacks run
Speaker 3: the football and throw it, and he's number one all
Speaker 3: time in rushing for touchdowns. I mean, the guy that
Speaker 3: I used to watch, you know, growing up, ran target
Speaker 3: him and he run around like a benchie, you know,
Speaker 3: And I felt like he scored touchdowns every single football
Speaker 3: game he played in. But for Josh Allen, for you
Speaker 3: to at the end of your career to be able
Speaker 3: to reflect back and say, I'm number one in the
Speaker 3: National Football League all time in the history of the NFL,
Speaker 3: all the years the NFL have been around, I'm the
Speaker 3: one guy that has rushed for the most touchdowns in
Speaker 3: my position group, the quarterback position. That's something to be
Speaker 3: proud of.
Speaker 2: I got a stat for you. I want one quick
Speaker 2: stat that we're gonna hear from Sean McDermott. In one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three games, Yeah, Josh Allen has seventy
Speaker 2: six rushing touchdowns for the Bills. That's seventy six rushing
Speaker 2: touchdowns one hundred and twenty three games. Well, Jay Simpson
Speaker 2: had fifty seven rushing touchdowns as a Bill in one
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve games. Josh Allen's twenty one more rushing
Speaker 2: touchdowns than the Juice did in eleven more games. But
Speaker 2: still that's some context that makes it even more amazing
Speaker 2: to what Josh Allens it really is.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of which broadcaster was, that, the
Speaker 3: network was, that the game itself was at the pregame
Speaker 3: post game studio, somebody said that now Josh Allen is
Speaker 3: the greatest player in Buffalo Bill's history, the greatest player
Speaker 3: ever in Buffalo Bill's history. Of course, the rushing touchdowns
Speaker 3: was the big reason why. At the quarterback position. But man,
Speaker 3: I tell you, I don't know. I'd have a hard
Speaker 3: time putting anybody ahead a rental James. Oh, Yes, James.
Speaker 2: Simpson twenty six to seven was the final yesterday. Here
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes of the opening thoughts from Sean McDermott,
Speaker 2: Bills coach after the win.
Speaker 22: Good win, tough place to play, well coached football team,
Speaker 22: a out of respect for this organization or coaching staff
Speaker 22: or players. Hard fought win and a team win hard
Speaker 22: to do, especially late in the year on the road.
Speaker 22: Or guys, they showed up today.
Speaker 6: They stood up.
Speaker 22: They knew this would be a challenge and they rose
Speaker 22: to the occasion. I'll start with the defense. The big
Speaker 22: takeaway after half was huge takeaway and score than the
Speaker 22: ensuing drive get another takeaway CB. I believe it was
Speaker 22: Joey on the Joey on the sack level, but even
Speaker 22: bigger than that was stopping the run. Our defense came out.
Speaker 22: They did a great job, Bobby and the defensive staff
Speaker 22: all week long coaching it up, getting our fits right.
Speaker 22: Fourth down stop is obviously big for us offensively once
Speaker 22: we stopped starting, you know, once we stopped beating ourselves
Speaker 22: in the first half of penalties and taking and turn
Speaker 22: the ball over, played more of a complimentary game, and
Speaker 22: you know, one first down, the rushing offense was incredible,
Speaker 22: especially against that defense, well coached team, like I've said before,
Speaker 22: tough front to run it against, and we were able
Speaker 22: to stand some positive third down situations where we were
Speaker 22: not in third or long. Two hundred and forty plus
Speaker 22: yards rushing and then key completions with Josh sometimes moving
Speaker 22: around a little bit in the pocket in that four
Speaker 22: minute drive was really like an eight minute drive I
Speaker 22: think it was, but a big time drive right there
Speaker 22: for us, and then capping it off with a field
Speaker 22: goal to it.
Speaker 6: So all in all, great effort.
Speaker 22: Certainly things we can work on but good to come
Speaker 22: on the road and show our toughness.
Speaker 9: Don your defense really since the second half of Houston has.
Speaker 11: Kind of taken it up to a different level.
Speaker 9: What why, Ald is what has changed you think in
Speaker 9: the defensive performance?
Speaker 22: No, maybe more understanding guys just you know, kind of
Speaker 22: just flying around playing relentless style football on They work
Speaker 22: hard during the week and take a lot of pride
Speaker 22: in their work. So I couldn't be happier with the
Speaker 22: way they played tonight.
Speaker 10: Coach.
Speaker 23: I know the defense kind of sparred things, but the
Speaker 23: two takeaways they're back to back.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 23: When Josh got hit on the slide and there was
Speaker 23: no flag, obviously his teammates came to his defense, but
Speaker 23: I don't know, all of a sudden, it looked like
Speaker 23: the mojo got kicked into year on offense.
Speaker 9: Did you send some of that juice that came from
Speaker 9: that play?
Speaker 22: I would hope so, right, I would hope so like
Speaker 22: you would, I expect you to be out there right
Speaker 22: with them, Chris. You know, so you hit it like
Speaker 22: down our quarterback, Yeah, the sideline is gonna rop. The
Speaker 22: team's gonna go to back back quarterback of what any player.
Speaker 6: So that's what I expected to see.
Speaker 3: That's what they did, and you know it was what
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 6: So but you mentioned it during your opening statement. I
Speaker 6: came in a little later.
Speaker 14: I apologize. But Anderson and Vandermark stepping in for some
Speaker 14: video you at the end of the game there when
Speaker 14: they're coming into the locker room, Alan, I think it
Speaker 14: picks you even up, pretty emotional. But for those guys
Speaker 14: to step in, Josh, not to be sacked, to.
Speaker 5: Rush for two hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it say about the job they did?
Speaker 22: Well, those guys knew, they knew the challenge that was
Speaker 22: in front of them. Their teammates supported them. They didn't blink,
Speaker 22: They really didn't. I thought it was a great move
Speaker 22: by the coaches in terms of how they had it
Speaker 22: set up Coach Coromer, Coach Gunn and Joe obviously, and
Speaker 22: you know, those guys did not They did not bad
Speaker 22: any at all.
Speaker 4: And I love that.
Speaker 22: That's that's who this team is. Guys, go down, guys,
Speaker 22: step in, do a phenomenal job, and just again the
Speaker 22: toughness of our football team on display.
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott after the game yesterday twenty six to seven,
Speaker 2: the final Bills win in Pittsburgh. We'll take a time
Speaker 2: out of continue. We've got fun facts from day and
Speaker 2: hoard with or in Burt's this week to get to
Speaker 2: plus it's been a while, but man, you better believe
Speaker 2: we're gonna play him to end the show. The awarding
Speaker 2: of the game balls, all of that to get to
Speaker 2: as we cruised through a third and final hour. Tonight,
Speaker 2: it's Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network and seven
Speaker 2: hundred or ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Let's
Speaker 2: keep moving right along on this Monday night of Bengals Line.
Speaker 2: We're on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Lance.
Speaker 3: First, dont's talk injuries with the Cincinnati Bengals. Date didn't
Speaker 3: really have any major injuries sustained during the action against
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens, which was good because they had guys
Speaker 3: that could not participate in the football game. But nobody
Speaker 3: is going to miss more than a week, I don't think.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 3: You've got guys nursing injuries and working their way back
Speaker 3: to the lineup. I think all hands will be on
Speaker 3: deck when they get out to practice full on Wednesday
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Speaker 3: from six to eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. All Right.
Speaker 2: Each week we like to go behind the scenes. Dan
Speaker 2: Horde does a fantastic segment called Fantastic Fun Facts. You
Speaker 2: get to know about the player beyond the person, beyond
Speaker 2: the player, and this week's edition is veteran Bengals linebacker
Speaker 2: or In Burks. Here is Dan Horde at Fantastic Fun Facts.
Speaker 1: No Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord.
Speaker 19: Time for some fun facts with linebacker Oron Burks from Lorton, Virginia,
Speaker 19: not too far from Washington, d C. What were some
Speaker 19: of the things you enjoyed about growing up there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one just had a lot of family there.
Speaker 24: Just I feel like the DMV as a whole, just
Speaker 24: a lot of culture there, music, food, You're close to
Speaker 24: a little bit of everything, a lot of all. It
Speaker 24: takes a lot of military, but yeah, I just have
Speaker 24: great memories growing up there a lot of history there
Speaker 24: as well in the DC area, so I feel like
Speaker 24: I didn't appreciate it as much as I do as
Speaker 24: an adult now going back and like really seeing how
Speaker 24: cool the city it is.
Speaker 5: So love living there.
Speaker 19: There's an old picture of you on the internet from
Speaker 19: being the homecoming king at your high school. Were you
Speaker 19: involved in other activities as well? Are pretty much sports only?
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of sports.
Speaker 24: I was involved with FCA at our school, as much
Speaker 24: community service as I can get into, and just very
Speaker 24: social we had. We had a really really cool high
Speaker 24: school experience with just everybody supporting each other with sports
Speaker 24: and academics.
Speaker 5: Was a huge pieces for me.
Speaker 24: My family as well obviously ended up going to Vanderbilt,
Speaker 24: so that was a big piece for me moving into college. Uh,
Speaker 24: and my sister went to Stanford play softball there as well,
Speaker 24: So we're always student athletes, And I just really appreciate
Speaker 24: my my upbringing. My parents enforced that really early into us,
Speaker 24: just having great values and knowing that it's beyond sort
Speaker 24: and just having an impact in your community and beyond.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that was a big piece of me.
Speaker 19: So with you at Vanderbilt and your sister at Stanford.
Speaker 19: Did your folks more or less tell you make this
Speaker 19: choice as much about the academics as the athletics.
Speaker 24: Not directly, but definitely kind of indirectly. They were like,
Speaker 24: you know, just think about the long term situation. What's
Speaker 24: your major, what you want to do, you know, beyond
Speaker 24: playing the game, because you know, like the numbers tell
Speaker 24: you that, you know, you're probably not going to play
Speaker 24: in the NFL or for her professional sports, but just
Speaker 24: having a backup plan when that does come. And you know,
Speaker 24: I feel like that has allowed me to be a
Speaker 24: well rounded individual. Just just really taking intent about my
Speaker 24: my academics has helped me tremendously, you know, just the
Speaker 24: way I process thing, the way I learned, and just
Speaker 24: again just being a well, well around the individual.
Speaker 19: You started out as a safety at Vanderbilt. How did
Speaker 19: you become a linebacker and how did you feel about it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I was actually a recruited as a linebacker.
Speaker 24: I was James Franklin, I know, he's a Virginia technologis
Speaker 24: last recruiting class at Vandy before he went to Penn State.
Speaker 5: I was a linebacker that year. We had new coaches.
Speaker 24: Toff come in with Coach Mason, and he saw me
Speaker 24: as a safety, So I played safety. I was middle posts,
Speaker 24: like running all over the place for two years, and
Speaker 24: then I played a hybrid outside inside position, and then I.
Speaker 5: Played inside my last year, so really all over the field.
Speaker 24: But for me, it's just about find a way to
Speaker 24: get on the field, add value, make plays, and I
Speaker 24: feel like that allowed me to have the skill set.
Speaker 24: You know, this league has changed a lot at the
Speaker 24: lineback position, being able to run and cover, and I
Speaker 24: feel like that safety background has definitely helped me in
Speaker 24: terms of like seeing the game from a different perspective.
Speaker 19: We're chatting with Orren Burks as we do this interview.
Speaker 19: Your alma maters ranked twelfth in the country in college football.
Speaker 19: How much fun is it for Vanderbilt grads to see
Speaker 19: this rise of the commodorees in college football?
Speaker 5: Man, it's been it's been a long time coming.
Speaker 24: Just so proud of the guys, Coach Lee leading the
Speaker 24: w and having the opportunity to be around them during
Speaker 24: the spring, in the summer, just seeing like the culture
Speaker 24: that they're building, and just just so proud as a
Speaker 24: long to go to see them, you know, thriving on
Speaker 24: the field and doing it at a high level and
Speaker 24: getting you know, the exposure from the national media, but
Speaker 24: just always had faith in you know, this program doing
Speaker 24: it the right way, and the city of Nashville is
Speaker 24: just getting behind them as well.
Speaker 5: So it's been really cool to see the guys take
Speaker 5: off this year.
Speaker 19: You're drafted by the Green Bay Packers in the third
Speaker 19: round in twenty eighteen. How stressful was that day leading
Speaker 19: up to getting the phone call.
Speaker 5: I wasn't very stressed.
Speaker 24: I feel like I had, you know, at that point,
Speaker 24: you do everything you can to put yourself in the
Speaker 24: best situation in terms of being drafted, and I felt
Speaker 24: really good about my draft process. I played well in
Speaker 24: the Senior Bowls a lad ad there, did well in
Speaker 24: the combine. I felt like I did well in my interviews,
Speaker 24: and my tape was my tape from college. You know,
Speaker 24: I had a lot of versatility from safety to the
Speaker 24: inside and outside, and I felt like I had kind
Speaker 24: of like done everything I could and just really had
Speaker 24: a of like it's freedom, you know, just like being
Speaker 24: able to surrender the outcomes of where I would land.
Speaker 24: You have no idea where you're going to be, so
Speaker 24: like it's not even worth you trying to guess for
Speaker 24: the guys that are going through that process coming up.
Speaker 24: But yeah, I just felt like I had done everything
Speaker 24: I could and was excited for the opportunity to land anywhere,
Speaker 24: you know, in the NFL and make my mark.
Speaker 19: The Packers missed the playoffs your rookie year. Since then,
Speaker 19: you've been on six consecutive playoff teams with Green Bay,
Speaker 19: San Francisco and Philly. You've played in the last two
Speaker 19: Super Bowls. What have you learned about the most important
Speaker 19: traits of winning teams?
Speaker 24: Man, it's a lot, I'll say first, it's just culture
Speaker 24: is so important. Just the standard for play, play style,
Speaker 24: not even just scheme, just the way that you play
Speaker 24: the game, the way that you prepare your process. It
Speaker 24: bleeds over to everybody into the building. It includes the
Speaker 24: front staff, the back, like everybody has to be bought
Speaker 24: in for you to really make a run. And I
Speaker 24: feel like that has improved my process as well. It
Speaker 24: made me a better person, maybe a better man, in
Speaker 24: terms of like the accountability that it takes, the effort
Speaker 24: that it takes, and ultimately vulnerability like this game, like
Speaker 24: you're exposed every every Sunday, you're out there and you
Speaker 24: know the whole world is seeing you, so you're just
Speaker 24: trying to put your best foot forward for yourself and
Speaker 24: for your brothers next to you. So I don't know,
Speaker 24: just taking that approach, as you know, it had it's
Speaker 24: better in my life, you know, in terms of me
Speaker 24: having to be better for my brother right next to me.
Speaker 24: So I just really enjoyed that about football, the challenge
Speaker 24: that it is every weekend and week out.
Speaker 5: It's find a way to get better.
Speaker 19: I work with Dave Lappa on the broadcasts. He was
Speaker 19: on the Super Team in nineteen eighty one with the
Speaker 19: Bengals lost to the forty nine Ers. It still hurts
Speaker 19: to this day. You played on the losing team a
Speaker 19: couple of years ago, and then the next year we're
Speaker 19: on the winning team with the Philadelphia Eagles. How did
Speaker 19: that feel, considering that you still had that fresh wound
Speaker 19: from the year before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just I feel like I just had
Speaker 5: the mindset that I have to see it through, you know.
Speaker 24: Just having the opportunity and coming up short with the Niners,
Speaker 24: and then having the opportunity the next year against the
Speaker 24: same team that that very rarely happens, So it's a
Speaker 24: different locker room but you know they had to experienced
Speaker 24: the same thing a couple of years ago, is losing
Speaker 24: to the Chiefs as well, So I felt like there
Speaker 24: was a lot of joint motivation towards, you know, getting
Speaker 24: it right this time. And yeah, just just wanted to
Speaker 24: lead out it on the field everything I could, you know,
Speaker 24: preparation and just knowing what to expect for the Super
Speaker 24: Bowl week as well. It was really important in terms
Speaker 24: of sticking to your process. The craziness outside and you
Speaker 24: know that that goes into that week as well. Just
Speaker 24: being able to keep your head down and work towards
Speaker 24: the ultimate goal because afterwards there's no greater feeling. And
Speaker 24: then then host hoisting that that Lombardi Trophy and being
Speaker 24: with your brothers.
Speaker 5: In the in the locker room. So yeah, just looking
Speaker 5: looking to repeat that feeling.
Speaker 19: It's not quite the Philly Special, but you made a
Speaker 19: play that Eagles fans will be talking about for decades.
Speaker 19: You forst to fumble on the very first play of
Speaker 19: the playoff run with a jarring hit to the Packers
Speaker 19: kick returner. How cool is it to have a moment
Speaker 19: like that that anytime you go back to Philly, somebody's
Speaker 19: going to say, orn Bergs, wait to force that fumble.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's special. It's special, you know, going into playoffs.
Speaker 24: I played in a lot of playoff games before that,
Speaker 24: and I just remember my telling myself that week, just
Speaker 24: find a way to make a player is going to
Speaker 24: change the game. And what better way to change the
Speaker 24: game than the opening kickoff forcing the fun will getting
Speaker 24: the ball out and we go down to drive start
Speaker 24: and score right there. So just to get a quick
Speaker 24: jump on it, setting the tone for the playoffs the place,
Speaker 24: Like again, the play style that we wanted to have,
Speaker 24: the physicality that we wanted to have.
Speaker 5: It's super cool.
Speaker 24: I still get like dms every once in a while,
Speaker 24: Like I'll never forget that, you know, that play that
Speaker 24: you're talking about, the opening kickoff of the of the
Speaker 24: Packers game. So yeah, just definitely still feel the love,
Speaker 24: you know, from from Philly fans and beyond, you know,
Speaker 24: for you know, making a play that you know changed
Speaker 24: the game.
Speaker 5: But yeah, just a really cool moment, all right.
Speaker 19: A few wild card topics out for Orrin Berks. Who
Speaker 19: is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?
Speaker 6: And why?
Speaker 24: Obviously Michael Jordan just like his competitiveness, you know, that's
Speaker 24: that's hard to emulate.
Speaker 3: And just like his his.
Speaker 24: His drive to hold the others around him accountable, the
Speaker 24: same with Kobe, like kind of that mindset.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'd probably have to go with those two
Speaker 5: Jordan's in Kobe.
Speaker 15: You earned your degree at Vanderbilt. Do you know what
Speaker 15: you want to do after football?
Speaker 24: Yeah, I'm you know, figuring it out. I do a
Speaker 24: little bit of real estate inside, but I really enjoy
Speaker 24: just business, the critical thinking around that, using business tactics
Speaker 24: to attack social problems and create change in the community.
Speaker 5: So definitely things around that. That's that's kind of what
Speaker 5: I'm looking at.
Speaker 24: But you know, I'm enjoying my time in the league,
Speaker 24: and you know, I'll have so many doors that are
Speaker 24: going to be open, you know, when the time comes
Speaker 24: after I retire.
Speaker 15: But just focus on now, Aside from sports, what are
Speaker 15: you good at?
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm good with people.
Speaker 24: I truly enjoy the team aspect of sport, and I
Speaker 24: try to carry that into my relationships with my wife,
Speaker 24: with my friends, with my family and just try to
Speaker 24: pull the best out of people.
Speaker 5: So that's I feel like that's what I'm good at all.
Speaker 19: Right, final fun fact for Aaron Burks. This one's kind
Speaker 19: of deep. If you could meet anyone in history, living
Speaker 19: or deceased, who would that person be?
Speaker 24: Yeah, probably be probably Jackie Robinson. Most people don't know.
Speaker 24: That's the reason why I wear forty two. So coming
Speaker 24: to the league, you have to have a forty or
Speaker 24: fifty number to be linebacker. And you know that was presented,
Speaker 24: and you know that thought would be cool to pay
Speaker 24: homage to, you know, one of the first black athletes
Speaker 24: in professional sports, and like all that he had to
Speaker 24: go through, the mental fortitude that he carried and the
Speaker 24: poise that he carried as well.
Speaker 5: So I feel like that would be really cool to
Speaker 5: hear his story like firsthand.
Speaker 19: I love it and I will definitely mention it the
Speaker 19: next time number forty two makes a tackle. Arren Burks,
Speaker 19: appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest of the year.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Oron Burks the subject of this week's Fantastic Fun Facts
Speaker 2: and Dave. Just a final thought on Oron Burks on
Speaker 2: a team with rookie linebackers and certainly Logan Wilson no
Speaker 2: longer here by trade, I think there's great value in
Speaker 2: an Oron Burks being a veteran linebacker, got a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl under his belt. He can be a guiding voice
Speaker 2: and kind of steer the young guys they have at
Speaker 2: that group.
Speaker 3: I agree, one hundred thousand percent. Lance and Oran Brooks
Speaker 3: is a great guy. Everybody that I talked to in
Speaker 3: the locker rooms and they love him. They love him
Speaker 3: as a football player, they love him as a human being.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is just an unbelievably fine person. You know,
Speaker 3: every once in a while, you're going to meet somebody
Speaker 3: that makes a huge impression on you. And Aaron Burks
Speaker 3: does that with these young players, not only in terms
Speaker 3: of football, but also their life, you know, marriage, family,
Speaker 3: how to be a good husband, how to be a
Speaker 3: good father, all those kind of things. So and the
Speaker 3: fact is, young guys look up to guys that want
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. Yes, you got a Super Bowl ring
Speaker 3: hanging off your finger, man, that's a that's ability right there.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna listen to whatever Oron Brooks has to say.
Speaker 3: And Oron Brooks is not gonna steer them wrong, no doubt,
Speaker 3: no doubt at all.
Speaker 2: All Right, two segments to go follow us. Our next segment,
Speaker 2: we'll go behind the stripes, Dan and lap talk about
Speaker 2: their best calls over fifteen years together. It's some fantastic stuff.
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear it as we continue with Bengals Line
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Speaker 2: Cool feature this week Bengals dot com. It's part of
Speaker 2: the series Behind the Stripes and it's Dan and Lapp
Speaker 2: talking about fifteen years together in terms of best calls,
Speaker 2: favorite calls, and you're gonna hear the stories behind each
Speaker 2: of those calls. Let's go back and pick it up
Speaker 2: with Week sixteen, twenty twelve in Pittsburgh. Here's Behind the
Speaker 2: Stripes with Dan and Ladle.
Speaker 19: The thing I remember about that game is it's the
Speaker 19: most physical game I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 15: We've been doing this for fifteen years. Together.
Speaker 19: That game stands out for the violence on the field.
Speaker 19: Two really good teams. The winner was going to go
Speaker 19: to the playoffs, the loser was going to be left out.
Speaker 19: Cincinnati won in Pittsburgh to clinch the playoff berth. And
Speaker 19: the thing that stands out after the game is that
Speaker 19: we all got to hear you sing serenading Gino Atkins
Speaker 19: in the locker room after he punished a big ben
Speaker 19: during the course of that game.
Speaker 15: Fall drop straight back round, russure at.
Speaker 19: Kingsm again, Gino Atkins putting on an absolute show. Can
Speaker 19: we get a replay of you singing to Gino Atkins,
Speaker 19: Geno Aladdins, Geno Adkis, Gino ahead.
Speaker 11: Kids.
Speaker 19: So I've been posting clips of some of our radio
Speaker 19: calls on the internet almost the entire time that we've
Speaker 19: been doing the games together.
Speaker 15: That play is the one that's been listened.
Speaker 6: To the most.
Speaker 19: Fourth and One Rogers has it gets to Frankment, he dies,
Speaker 19: don't think a good I don't thinking ball do is out?
Speaker 10: Let's cook it out.
Speaker 4: It's not running that out.
Speaker 3: Bengals touchdown. Terrence Steuman.
Speaker 15: People love balls out, balls out, ball out, And I
Speaker 15: honestly think that when there's a fumble in a game.
Speaker 19: Now, I think I used that expression more often than not,
Speaker 19: because that's now what.
Speaker 15: I hear in my head. I hear your reaction to
Speaker 15: that moment. I'm glad you saw it.
Speaker 19: Obviously, I was locked in on whether the Bengals got
Speaker 19: to stop on fourth and one. I didn't see the
Speaker 19: ball come out initially. With that great defensive play at
Speaker 19: the end of the game, it was one of the
Speaker 19: wackier games that we've seen.
Speaker 3: I mean wickedly wacky. To give up thirty consecutive points
Speaker 3: and have a defensive touchdown. When the football game, somebody
Speaker 3: throws a great block, or somebody throws somebody makes a
Speaker 3: great move, you know, to break free. Man, Those defensive
Speaker 3: scores are rare. They're fun, no doubt.
Speaker 19: From the thirteen yard line, twelve seconds to go, talk
Speaker 19: you back to throw.
Speaker 3: Yeah Jah, touchdown, Bengals.
Speaker 19: It's the latest game winning touchdown that we've called together.
Speaker 19: I think when they checked out the clock, they put
Speaker 19: six seconds back on the clock. So to see a
Speaker 19: game winning touchdown pass with less than ten seconds to
Speaker 19: go is great. Atlanta's AJ Green's adopted hometown, so for
Speaker 19: him to be in Atlanta and make a play like
Speaker 19: that in the final ten seconds to win a game
Speaker 19: was really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is plays like that in memories that
Speaker 3: those plays create or why you play.
Speaker 5: It's almost like you free streamed.
Speaker 3: Do you remember exactly where you were, when you were there,
Speaker 3: why you were there, everything that goes long with it
Speaker 3: when you do it on the road you travel home.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like you don't need a plane, you know,
Speaker 3: It's like you're you can fly. You can fly by yourself.
Speaker 3: You're up there flapping your own wings man.
Speaker 4: And that is the coffin nail Bam bam bam.
Speaker 19: There was early in a broadcast partnership, but at the
Speaker 19: end of a game. I don't remember the game when
Speaker 19: the Bengals made the play that clinched victory, I just
Speaker 19: said as an expression. It wasn't preconceived or anything like that.
Speaker 19: I just said, coffin nails because the game was over,
Speaker 19: and you immediately.
Speaker 15: Said bam bam bam.
Speaker 19: To this day, I don't know really why it just
Speaker 19: just came to you in the moment, I assume exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know why either. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess it's kind of morbid.
Speaker 1: You know what's like coffin nails.
Speaker 3: Well, I do remember seeing movies that are and people
Speaker 3: banging those coffin nails in is something that almost every
Speaker 3: Bengals fan. Uh you know, I see them out in
Speaker 3: the street or wherever. Hey, coffinail damn bam bam. You
Speaker 3: know I'll say Confide Hills. You say vam bam bam. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can do that.
Speaker 19: Four years ago, he was a senior in high school
Speaker 19: in tiny Fort Payne, Alabama. Now the Bengels Super Bowl
Speaker 19: chances rest on his right foot.
Speaker 4: The kick is up yet, Yeah, good.
Speaker 3: Coffin nows Bam bam bam. That is unba believable. The
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals comes from behind on the road, it's history. Man,
Speaker 3: have a game winning kick like that to get you there.
Speaker 3: That that is that's a big time. That's a lot
Speaker 3: of fun.
Speaker 19: So you summed it up perfectly. After the kick goes
Speaker 19: through the uprights, un bah believable. That's what was going
Speaker 19: through my mind until that ball goes through the uprights.
Speaker 19: I'm not sure that in my mind I had really
Speaker 19: grasped you're gonna be calling a super Bowl in a
Speaker 19: couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean that's the epitome for a broadcast,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, if you're gonna broadcast NFL games,
Speaker 3: you want to call the big one.
Speaker 19: Dave Lapham has rejoined us here in the broadcast booth
Speaker 19: wearing his stylish Yes Ring of Honor blazer.
Speaker 15: That thing looks great on you.
Speaker 3: It was a surreal experience getting the jacket put on
Speaker 3: with Lamar Parrish and all the other Bengal Ring of
Speaker 3: Honor members. And it's a man, it's like a dream.
Speaker 3: You just don't want to wake up. It's everything I
Speaker 3: hoped it would be for my grandchildren, my kids and
Speaker 3: my grandkids, and my wife Lynn as well.
Speaker 15: I was so thrilled when the vote came out.
Speaker 19: It's so well deserved, not only for your great playing
Speaker 19: career as the most versatile offensive lineman this franchise has
Speaker 19: ever had, but for being the greatest ambassador to the
Speaker 19: fan base that the Cincinnati Bengals have ever had.
Speaker 3: The way I feel about it and working with Dan,
Speaker 3: it's I don't look at it as a job. I
Speaker 3: look at it as a hobby. It's fun. It keeps
Speaker 3: you young, keeps me young. Anyway.
Speaker 19: The Bengals are very fortunate they've had you as part
Speaker 19: of this thing family for fifty years.
Speaker 15: I'm very proud.
Speaker 19: Every time I look up at that wing and see
Speaker 19: lap on sixty two puts a smile on my face.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you man behind the stripes with Dan and lap
Speaker 2: I love the story of Dan and coffin Nails and
Speaker 2: you the bam bam bam and how just organically started.
Speaker 2: And now I got to think, if you're like at
Speaker 2: I could see you at Kroger, or like at the
Speaker 2: bank and somebody yelling coffin nails and you have to
Speaker 2: turn around and go bam, bam.
Speaker 13: Bam, right, or what happens to us People will be like, hey,
Speaker 13: bam bam bamm.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you got me all messed up.
Speaker 2: Now do it in the right war.
Speaker 3: You gotta say coffin nows. That is fantastic. That was
Speaker 3: a really cool feature. I was glad we were able
Speaker 3: to get that one in. This week, we'll head.
Speaker 2: Down the stretch, hand out the game balls. Stick around
Speaker 2: for that. It's been a while, but it's worth it.
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Speaker 2: After eah Bengals win, we like to give you the
Speaker 2: sounds of victory from the locker room in the form
Speaker 2: of game balls. Take a listen to this and you'll
Speaker 2: hear a Zach Taylor referenced brick That is Jeff Brickner,
Speaker 2: their director of operations we talked about earlier in the show.
Speaker 2: Helped navigate and savage the challenges of mechanical issues on
Speaker 2: the plane. Here's Zach Taylor after the win, handing out
Speaker 2: game balls.
Speaker 10: I'm proud of you guys.
Speaker 21: Okay, this season hasn't been what we expected so far,
Speaker 21: but all you guys done, keep fighting, keep working, and
Speaker 21: todight is the fruit of those flavors.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 21: You guys have practice to me. You come out here
Speaker 21: and you compete, You believe in each other, you take
Speaker 21: care of each other. You found a big win and
Speaker 21: now that's to be a momental builder for us going
Speaker 21: into the month of December. Okay, all right, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 21: I got a lot of game balls, get back. It's
Speaker 21: been a long time. Okay, waa them Okay, six field goals,
Speaker 21: let's franchise re s my annoying you six a.
Speaker 10: Side, two cents.
Speaker 2: You have a fun.
Speaker 5: Alright when you get a game.
Speaker 10: Boy, I gotta take a piece of chicken, don't eat.
Speaker 8: And I like.
Speaker 10: Miles Murphy red zone.
Speaker 21: Huge hit by Miles d Night with the pick came
Speaker 21: all from both yay.
Speaker 10: Sir Johnson to fumble recovery.
Speaker 17: Gets it up to Turkey again, he said, And I damn,
Speaker 17: I my this yere j D knocking that ball.
Speaker 21: Upright, turn it now? Never giving up on the plane
Speaker 21: man knocking up all three?
Speaker 4: Who's the touch man?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 10: Oh, thank turkey, Turkey get.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that was.
Speaker 21: Jase Brown six straight games with over one hundred scrimming jars,
Speaker 21: the most begs history. I know, statistically it's not gonna
Speaker 21: be the best game you ever had. But to have
Speaker 21: Joe Burrow back from everything he worked through to give
Speaker 21: that come here on the road short week. The visual
Speaker 21: win lead us to victory was Joe Burrow game. You know, okay,
Speaker 21: you want to talk about fighting through adversity, Okay, and
Speaker 21: lead enough and not witching for one second last night,
Speaker 21: Jeff Brickner, U, no.
Speaker 2: No, nothing beats the sounds of victory. Now four and eight,
Speaker 2: two games back. The Ravens and Steelers play each other
Speaker 2: this weekend. The Bengals go to Buffalo.
Speaker 4: Buckle up.
Speaker 2: Five games left. I can't wait, Dave.
Speaker 3: You never know in the National Football League every week,
Speaker 3: just get after it, play your best, don't take anything
Speaker 3: for granted. Just take it one game at the time.
Speaker 3: As the old scene goes.
Speaker 2: We are set to do that. Thanks for hanging out
Speaker 2: with us tonight. Let's do it again one week from tonight.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Jeff Hobson for hanging out with us. That
Speaker 2: was good stuff tonight. Really enjoyed it. This has been
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