WEBVTT - Bengals Line with Lance McAlister & Dave Lapham -- 12/1/25 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.920 This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.760 Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.640 provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. Kettering El Best Care for 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.520 the Best Fans, kettering El official healthcare provider of US 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.400 Cincinnati Bengals. This is seven hundred WLW, the home of 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.280 the best Bengals coverage. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.720 All right, let's get it going on this Monday night, 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.440 three hours about to unfold its Bengals line of the 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.560 Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:33.960 Lance Pacallister along with Dave lapham Man, do we have 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.400 some things to sort through? And feel good of a 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.080 mini by following a victory on Thursday night? Nothing like 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.360 waking up Sunday morning and having the realization, Ah, that's right, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.879 they've already won this week. And David, I gotta think 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.760 I don't think it's a stretch here when I say 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.839 Thursday night we witnessed the best all around performance of 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.120 the season by this football team. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.000 I agree with you, Lance, I think in all three phases, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.760 I thought all three phases contributed, you know, Offense, defense, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.800 special teams. Everybody made plays. Every phase made plays. Every 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:09.160 player that played in those phases made plays on the offense, defense, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.880 and special team. So I agree. I mean, I think 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.280 that it was the most complete game that the team 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.520 has played this season, one of the more complete games 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.759 they've played in the last few years. So I think 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.920 Zach Taylor has to be pretty policed with what he saw. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.360 Point how nice was it after? I think it was 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.720 the day seventy five, his return on Thursday night, to 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.080 have Joe Burrow back, certainly a little bit of rust 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.520 earlier that he shook off. But man, when you insert 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.400 him into this football team and onto the field, you 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.119 just marvel at the impact he has, no question. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.759 I mean, he is the unquestioned leader of the pack. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.200 He's the man, and he plays that way. I mean, 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.920 he's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen. He 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:57.600 understands everything about that position. His mechanics, his techniques are 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:04.760 simply marvelous. They're they're just high, high level. He has 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.600 a great i Q for the game of football. He 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.799 understands football, he knows it cold. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:11.000 Uh. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.920 It seems like he was born to play football, he 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:18.519 was blessed to play football. And Uh, the team responds 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.200 to him. I mean he That's that's the definition of leader. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.359 You know, what do you what? What do the other 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.840 guys do when you're a part of it? And uh, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.400 is there a noticeable decline when you're not? And the 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.960 answers yes in both cases. So I mean, Joe, Joe 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.240 Burrow is the straw that stirs to drink. There's no 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.440 question about that. And there was some rust and dust, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.240 no question about it. But I thought in the second 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.320 half he had he had knocked most of that off, 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.840 and I thought that he played, you know, really good 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.320 solid football. He was playing football more of the way 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.360 that we're a custom to seeing Joe Borrow play the 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.079 game of football. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.520 Well here from Joe Burrow a little bit later on 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.040 will break down more of his performance and things that 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.919 jumped out before we're done tonight. Another thing that jumps out, man, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.040 You look and see the time of possession, almost thirty 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.079 nine minutes to twenty one minutes, right, eighty plays run 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.519 by the Bengals to fifty seven by the Ravens. Holy cow, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.000 that's you're gonna win football games when you do. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.000 That, you are, I mean, that's basically playing keep away, yes, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.120 you know, I mean, remember we used to play that 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.520 as kids, you know, I keep away, if you make 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.440 a play, you keep the ball, you know, And so 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:34.040 that that's staggering that played. Discrepancy differential is not common 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:36.800 in the National Football League, and that translated to a 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.080 big time of possession differential as well. And I think 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.560 the big reason for it was the Bengals ran the 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.280 ball so well, you know. And both teams did run 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.560 the football, so the clock was definitely moving, but the 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.920 Bengals ran it so effectively, and and and Joe Burrow 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.280 completed a high percent of his passes, so the clock 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.440 wasn't stopping, you know. And you know, you make that 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.600 little short intermediate throw, complete the football move the change 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.080 clock keeps running. So the Bengals did a good job 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.120 of giving less time for the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.800 Jackson to respond to answer to things. And then you 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.880 start to press. The natural thing to do is start 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.760 to press because I'm gonna how many more possessives am 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.520 I gonna have? I don't know what I mean, when 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.320 are they gonna give us the football back? You know? 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.080 And you start to start to worry about those kind 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.719 of things for sure. So I thought they did a 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.800 good job on Lamar Jackson. He's obviously a you know, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.039 a multi tool quarterback. He's almost like a running back 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.560 quarterback in one body, the way he can run the football, 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.400 the way his foot speed. He was hindered obviously by 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.560 you know, by his injury, his lower body injury. Both 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:49.039 quarterbacks were not one, but I thought both quarterbacks really 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.880 led their football teams and operated at a pretty good level. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:56.440 Boy, you talk about a defense being opportunistic and forcing turnovers, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.159 that old saying turnovers seem to come in bunches. Well 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.440 there was a budge turnovers on Thursday, and we're talking, Dave. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:08.279 They hold the Ravens to fourteen points in their home stadium. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:09.120 That's tough to do. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:13.120 It is it is? And they scored thirty two, and 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.799 you know, it's it's amazing. I mean they could have scored. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.080 They had four fumble recoveries, in an interception, five takeaways. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.200 I mean that would normally translate to forty five fifty points. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.080 You know, so thirty two. It's like it's good, but 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.719 it's not. Guys weren't let's put it this way. In 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.000 the locker room, guys weren't all fired up about it, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.680 about the performance after the game offensively, because they felt 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.559 like they left a lot of meat on the bone 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.880 because of that turnover differential. They felt like that should 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.200 have been a wider margin of victory. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.200 Well, let's remember a week ago, we were sitting right 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.560 here in the final segment or so, we were talking 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.839 about the Ravens and how they had turned around their defense. Yeah, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.960 and the first five weeks of the season they'd given 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.240 up one hundred and seventy seven points, more than any 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.920 five week period in history. But in the previous six 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.960 going into Thursday night, they had not allowed twenty points 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.880 in a game, and the Bengals getting for thirty two 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.480 and as you alluded to, should have had more. They 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.239 did a number on that on a really good Ravens defense. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.600 They really did. And again I think the big key 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.680 was how well they ran the football, and as a 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.559 result of wund they controlled the line of scrimmage. I thought, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.440 for the most part that the Bengals controlled the line 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.000 of scrimmage more than the Baltimore Ravens did. I mean, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.080 the Ravens did their share of damage, they always do, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:30.159 but I thought that really that the offensive and defensive 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.919 lines I thought played their best game together. At the 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.560 same time in the same football game as they have 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:38.400 all season long. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.640 I'll tell you one thing that I still look back on. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.480 I looked at it again this morning. I said, man, 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.599 it is right. The more I look at it, I said, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.040 it's actually correct. Derrick Henry on the opening drive at 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:52.040 a twenty eight yard carry, right, He carried five times 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.640 in the first half and ten times for the game, 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.039 and they won possession into the third quarter. That was 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.800 still a twelve seven game. That was like the Ravens 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.800 were behind by three scores and they just didn't run 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:03.440 Derick Henry. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.640 Thank you telling you. I'll guarantee you that Harbaugh is 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.320 lamenting that fact right now. I mean that that that 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.120 to me when you look at that football game and 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.800 the score and all the circumstances, and if you didn't 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.840 watch it, you don't really have a total understanding. It 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.000 was mind boggling. We were surprised. I remember mentioning to 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.440 dan On here, it's like, Derrick Henry's got five carries 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.280 right now, John carried the ball five times. I mean, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.720 this guy can punish you. This guy can wear you down. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.240 That's the thing he physically wears on you. And as 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.680 in the second half of the football game. Man, your 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.840 defense is definitely fatigued, you know, and just by stopping 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.200 that big old horse, and they decided not to do 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.720 it for whatever reason. And I don't I don't know 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.160 if they outdoted themselves. You know, they're trying to be 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.240 uh yeah, yeah, let's let's uh, let's let's you know, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.560 show them a wrinkle of two that that they're not expecting. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.960 And man, that that was a huge miss not to 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.600 run Derek Henry more than they And. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.520 It'd be one thing if Lamar was Lamar, you could 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.480 entertain the conversation. But when Lamar clearly isn't Lamar, and 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.160 Derek carries ten times for sixty yard, I mean that's 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.800 six yards of carry. Think of what he did more carries. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.640 It just I mean, if you're a Ravens fans had 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.720 to be melting down after the game looking at Dad. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:25.240 Absolutely, and you look at the Lamar Jackson carried the 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.840 ball too much, Yes, because he had to because of pressure. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.640 A lot of his carries they weren't you know, scripted, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.320 they weren't designed. They were like, man, pressure, I got 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.280 to climb the pocket. I got to try to make 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.439 something out of nothing. Here, or I got to get 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.560 out of pocket, get to the perimeter. Then of course 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.880 they had the design rollouts and the design nakeds and 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.320 things like that, which also led to rushing yards. But 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.960 I'll guarantee you that the offensive game plan was not 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.520 designed the way it unfolded. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:57.120 We'll get into the the AFC North in greater detail 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.240 later on in this hour, but a quick thought, the 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.000 Bengals clearly turned in the best performance in the division 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.640 of this week in football. The Bengals get help from 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.280 the Bills yesterday, who dominated the Steelers and Dave. All 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.120 of a sudden, you look at the standings and you say, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.160 all right, it won't won't be easy, but it's certainly 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:14.960 not impossible. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.640 No, I mean, best record is six and six. I mean, 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.840 the the tie for first place Baltimore and Pittsburgh they're 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.960 both six and six. That is unbelievable. And the Bengals 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.920 are what three and one in the division? Yep. So 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.920 I mean they could literally, you know, finish five and 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.640 one in the division, and that is a very high 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.360 tie breaker. I mean that's the one that's the first 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:38.720 thing they look at, Well, how'd you do in your 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.400 own division? Five and one? Pretty good. So if they can, 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.640 if they can't crawl back to five hundred or better, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.040 go nine to eight. I think nine is the magic number. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.800 They gotta win nine football games to make the playoffs 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.400 and then let the tiebreakers do their thing, no doubt. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.280 Buckle up five weeks to go. We'll take our first 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.600 time out and continue much more to get to later on. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.040 Jeff Hoopson's going to join us in our second hour. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.000 We've got so much to sort through from a thirty 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.559 two to fourteen win on Thursday Night football and a 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.160 look ahead of those Buffalo Bills on Sunday. He is 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.760 Dave Lapham, a Lance McAllister. It's Bengals on and the 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:15.240 Bengals Radio Network seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.360 Let's keep moving along on this Monday night tem at 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.440 Bengals Football. Here's the plan from a programming standpoint. At 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.080 the bottom of the hour, we're going to break away. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.200 It'll be Dan and Terry with UC basketball coverage beginning 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.760 at six thirty after the news on seven hundred WLW. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.200 We'll continue on on ESPN fifteen thirty until nine o'clock 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.640 tonight with all things related to those Cincinnati Bengals winners 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.920 thirty two fourteen over the Baltimore Ravens. Dave, you talked 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.599 about the run game. I don't want to get to 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.480 that in just a second, but it just popped into 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.480 my head. And we'll ask Jeff Hobson about this, because 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.360 he wrote about it extensively. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.760 What was it like? 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.360 Give me the scouting report. What was like sitting on 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.880 a tarmac in a plane for five and a half 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.120 hours waiting to fly to Baltimore because mechanical issues with 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:57.920 the plane. 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:58.679 I'll tell you what. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:00.720 It's like. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.240 You're thinking, there's better things I could be doing with 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:09.679 my life right now. You're just sitting there and and 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.480 you have no control of your own destiny. You know, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.560 it's like it's totally it's totally controlled by outside forces, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.360 and uh, man, it is. It's a it's an empty feeling, 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.600 it's a sick feeling. Then you know, every half hour 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.760 we'll be uh, we'll be the party. You know we're no, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.480 we're not, you know, we're not. Quit playing with us, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.480 put messing with us. And finally Zach Zach took control 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.600 and uh got a Delta employee to you know, get 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.840 another plane and he got on and said, Okay, we're 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.120 the planeing, we're getting off the plane, get your baggage 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.400 and uh and let's get on another plane. Get the 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.360 hell out of here. Man loose translation, very loose. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.640 Yes, and again Jeff Hobson is gonna join us in 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.600 the next hour. He wrote about it and and the 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.360 herculean effort turned in by Jeff Brickner, the director of operations, 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.800 and he got a game ball as a result. And uh, 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.559 there are stories of the ballroom and turkey at one am, and. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.559 Oh so much to get to with Whicheff. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.800 Just an amazingly Nightmara scene that actually was handled well 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.439 on everybody's and to make it, to make it more 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.480 bearable from the Bengals standpoint in view of things, big 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:14.280 thing was the win. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:20.320 Oh yes, yes, lo that football game after that would 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.000 have been oh man, no doubt. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.560 You mentioned in the first segment the run game and 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.640 being a big key here and I'm I'm looking at 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:28.200 Chase Brown. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:28.559 David. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.520 We talk about him every week because he keeps doing 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.199 stuff every week. That's six straight games with at least 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.280 one hundred yards from scrimmage. Over those six games, he's 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.640 rushed for five hundred and two yards, averaging almost six 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.880 yards of carry Dave for the season, He's now tracking 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.559 for fourteen hundred total yards from scrimmage. He's clicked, the 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.480 line has clicked. The run game looks a whole lot 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:51.679 different than it did early on. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.439 Yeah, it does. And he he is he is definitely 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.600 a force to be reckoned with. I mean he is. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.160 He's starting to give some around the National Football League 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.400 because he can do anything, and he can do everything 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.120 on a football field. He can run the ball. He 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.880 can run the ball with power. He can run with speed. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.000 You know, he can bust a long one. He can 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.320 run away from people. He has you know, sub four 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.800 to four speed. So and he's put together. You know, 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.199 they's listened at five ten like two fifteen. He's probably 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:28.200 five nine ish and you know, maybe two tennish. But man, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.000 he packs a punch now is a he's a well 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.840 put together kid. And he's been in the weight rooms. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:38.360 His squads, hamstrings, casts are all unbelievably strong. And he 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.760 also is a good receiver out of the backfield, runs 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:45.360 good routes, gets separation, knows how to change direction, can 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.040 do it quickly with those jackhammer feet that he's got, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.280 and then he also will block people. I mean he'll 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.520 get physical in that area and he'll take on a 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.920 linebacker or a safety that's blitzing, hit him right in 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.520 the chest and stone him, knock him back some you know. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.800 I mean, Chase Brown can do it all and does 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.320 all well. Well, I'll tell you what. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.679 Along the run game and talking about stoning somebody, I 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.560 don't want to leave out Samaj p Ryan. I'll throw 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.360 that Joe made to Yoshi, which was just he ripped 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:11.880 it right down in the middle of the field twenty 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.480 nine yards for a touchdown. It's beautiful, Joe said after 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.400 the game he felt back at that point. But Samaj 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.360 p Ryan picks up a blitzer and just moves him 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.520 out of the way. And it was one of those 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.560 in slow motion you're thinking, Joe, duck, he's gonna get 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.680 and then Samaj to the rescue, got him. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.320 Right out of the way. Right, You're right on. I mean, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.800 Samaj is a great blend of physicality and athleticism. I 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.720 mean he's a big bodied running back man that can, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.720 you know, do things that backs much smaller physical size 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:46.600 wise do. But then he'll also you talk about a 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.520 one two punch of blitz pickup, Samaj p Run and 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:54.680 Chase Brown. I'll say that I waterer that in the 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.080 National Football League, there's not a better one two punch, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.720 a better duo a blitz pickup guys than those two, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.280 because no, they their goal is to not only pick 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.320 the guy up, but to hurt him, you know, to 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.600 make them remember that. Hey, this is this is Take 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.240 a look at the number. I'm number thirty, Chase Brown. 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.560 That's me. I'm the guy that stoned you right there, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.320 hit you right in the mouth and uh and startled you, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.080 stunned you more so. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:19.800 Uh. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.000 And Samaj p Ryan, Hey, I'm number thirty four. Yep, 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.480 take a look, I'm the guy. Those two guys take 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.960 great pride in that part of the game, for sure. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.000 But I remember Chase. The first couple of weeks we 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.400 talked about Chase Brown being hit behind the line so 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.760 often and before he could make his first cut through 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.880 his contact, and then it seemed like there were things 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:42.080 that he may have rushed because the the frustration. It's 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.480 not that and I'm going to make something happen. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:43.760 Yeah. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.440 Now it seems he trust that old line is really 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.160 gelled and he's trusting it there's just seems like a 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.040 flow to the runs. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.080 Now, yeah, I think I think you're right, Plants. I 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.720 think the the old line is playing at a much 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.400 higher level, uh than they had been. You hear the 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.320 players talking about that that they're very comfortable, and that's 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.600 the biggest thing. Having played the position in the offensive line, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.120 I mean, you have to be comfortable with how the 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.720 center plays, how the tackle plays. If you're a guard, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.040 for example, and you know it almost has to be 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.120 you can do it, and you sleep when you pass 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.080 off a stunt. You just trust. You know he's gonna 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.320 be there. There's no way he's not gonna be there. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.760 So they're starting to play much much better as a group. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.560 It's like I always compare it to making a fist, 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.200 you know, the five components wrap four fingers and curl 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.480 the thumb around it. That's that's the way they're playing 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.160 in the offensive line right now. They're playing like they're 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.680 they're making a fist on every single snap and doing 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:40.240 some damage. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.680 All right, still ahead, more to sort through from this game. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.600 Jeff Hobson's gonna join us in the second hour tonight. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.800 We're gonna hear a little bit later. I will get 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.360 into the Bills and hear the opening thoughts of Sean 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.000 McDermott yesterday from the bills dominating win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.440 All of that and more over the course of three hours, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.960 again with a programming note on seven hundred WLW or 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.560 break away, it'll be Dan and Terry with UC Basketball. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.320 Stick with us on ESPN fifteen thirty. We've got Bengals 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.840 Line the rest of the way. Thanks for being with us. 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.359 Tonight we continue Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:19.119 seven hundred WLWN, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.439 continue on on this Monday Night of Bengals Line. We 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.240 do it on the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.320 Lance McAllister along with Dave Lapham. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.080 And Lance Is the holiday season approaches, it's time to 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.520 shop the Bengals Pro Shop on the best selection of 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.960 Bengals merchandise anywhere. Visit the Pro Shop seven days a week, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.520 located on the north side of pay Court Stadium, a 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.840 shop online at Bengals dot Com. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:45.120 Joe Burrow on day seventy five since his injury, returns 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.919 to complete twenty four of forty six two hundred and 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.720 sixty one yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, He was sacked once. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.359 Quarterback rating of eighty three point seven. With all eyes 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.680 on Joe and howid look turns in a winning performance, 0:17:58.680 --> 0:17:59.879 and he talked about it after that. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:01.240 Yeah, I felt great. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.280 You know, obviously had to knock some rust off there 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.600 in the first half, so I expect myself to play better. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.760 But uh, it was great to be back out there. 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.560 I was, you know, a lot of emotions running through 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.120 it at the end of the game, so, uh, it's 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:18.600 just good to be back with the guys. You know, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.960 I thought second half, I started to to put it 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.720 more where I wanted and settled in a little bit. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.119 Certainly miss some throws early that I typically make, but 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.119 you know, after that, I felt felt pretty comfortable back there. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:31.800 I thought that the line did great, we ran it well. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.640 Obviously defense played great, so I'm just gonna keep getting better. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.399 You mentioned jelly off a little bit of rubb or like, 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:40.760 when did you start through. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:43.800 The whole first half. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:49.120 I was, you know, my feet were a little antsy 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.639 back there, missing some throws, But like I said, in 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.000 the second half, I felt felt a lot more comfortable. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:01.159 Started putting them where I wanted to and uh, you know, 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.000 getting out and running and makes making a couple of 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.760 plays with my feet, getting out of the pocket a 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.280 little bit. Certainly don't wanna make a living that way. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:13.080 But was able to to pick my spots go. 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.239 I walk going on during the night. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.879 But you canna have any moments where you felt like 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:18.399 you had. 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.639 A chance to reflect on the journey back to this 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:23.120 moment to. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.879 Get back and and how hard it's been to be 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.520 able to enjoy a night like this. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.960 Yeah, it was certainly have those moments after the game. 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.679 Certainly hasn't been easy on me through through six years 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.240 from a lot of different angles. But you know, I've 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.000 worked really hard to put myself in position to be 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.560 back out there, and a lot of people around me 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.159 have done the same. And there's been a lot of 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.600 discussions and a lot of time in the training room 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.240 and just a lot lot that has gone into this. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.600 And you know, I'm I'm proud to be that is. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:01.600 And that over good. Was there any supposed to. 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:03.960 Get me back into it where you know in the 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.400 first step then you fail to get Is there any 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:07.720 throw the pets you going in. 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:12.280 To pet your home that touchdown to to Yoshi, I 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.239 felt pretty good about it. Was, Uh, put it right 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.320 where I wanted it. Didn't exactly spend it the way 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:18.800 I wanted it, but that's all right. I put it, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.320 put it in a good spot, and you know, he 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:22.200 was ready for the work. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:25.840 That one was. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:28.359 That one felt though, is this what you became? 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:30.280 That more was kind of whining and what's all that 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:30.639 worked in? 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:30.879 Uh? 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.680 Yeah, there's there's no there's no better feeling than that, 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.359 you know, putting in, putting in work for for a 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.560 long time and going out and in it paying off. 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:46.399 It's Uh, there's just n just there's there's just no 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:51.840 feeling like going out in front of the world with 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.080 a group of guys that work really hard to go 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.240 try to win games, and and going out and putting 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.960 on a good performance and winning that game. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:01.480 You know, obviously we got a lot of games left, 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:02.640 but we're. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.560 Gonna enjoy this when on this on this little mini 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.840 by weekend and everybody's gonna go and have Thanksgiving with 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.760 their families and smile and eat and feel good about it. 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:12.160 House. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:12.880 Yeah, how playing? 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.080 Shoot, Yeah, it was good. 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.400 I was a little more mobile than I expected to be, 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.880 to be honest, So that felt good. 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:21.080 Uh. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.399 We got a good system on the sideline of you know, 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.320 changing shoes out and doing what I need to do 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:27.040 to stay fresh. 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.000 Uh, So we'll continue to do. 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.159 That sort of playing the game where you kind of 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:32.439 play and sends it out and. 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:33.600 Make over spot. 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:36.480 He thought, Well, I think the first time I really 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.160 left the pocket was in the red zone. 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.040 I threw it to Yoshi. It was incomplete. 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.679 But after that one I felt pretty good, and so 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.200 I felt a little more comfortable doing some more of 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:47.639 that stuff. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.040 It just one deal of job, obviously, one way. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:54.359 What given the competition where it was said in the 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.200 national decide, does this kind of give you a glimpse of. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:58.880 What was the capable world? 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.399 The next quody, we know the guys we have in 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.520 the locker room, we know what we have in front 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.200 of us. It is certainly not gonna be easy. But 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:10.880 you know, the way our defense has played the last 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.320 several weeks I think has been extremely positive. Obviously they 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.560 were great, great, great great today. Uh, But that's been building, 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.399 that's been building all year. You see them putting in, 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:23.480 putting in the work. You see al talking about a 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.159 lot of different things that end up showing up tonight 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.280 in in the last couple of games as well, And 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.040 so credit to those guys for working so hard the 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.000 way that they do and and putting on that performance. 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:36.040 You would say you and I was kind of s 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.399 I guess it's short end of faith in Tanner is 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.040 going against the best safety believe. 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.680 I mean, I wouldn't see mean differ great action, but 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:44.159 we're not. 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:50.639 Like, Yeah, from the moment Tanner got here, all he 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.120 did was make plays in practice. And when we first 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:59.560 got here, and was that twenty two I think when 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.240 we signed and I was like, who's this guy making 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.320 all these catches on scouts, you know, and didn't know 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:07.240 his name, and then he just continuously kept doing it. 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.840 And I've been his biggest fan since he got here. 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:15.480 He just you know, it's it's not easy being in 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:21.399 that spot when you're the third or fourth tight end 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:23.960 that you got. You might get a couple of snaps, 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.399 uh in certain spots in the game and it's cold outside, 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.320 you're on the sideline. You gotta stay warm, and then 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.440 you gotta come in and catch a back piel on 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.200 throw against Kyle Hamilton. 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:34.800 That's not easy. 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.720 And he's just always been ready for his number he called, 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:39.800 So credit to him for that. 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.200 Some of the challenges that we faced in the journey. 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:45.320 Is there something that. 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:48.760 I'm just thankful for the opportunity to play this game. 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:51.840 We got great guys in there I'm I love playing with, 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:53.800 and we got a great coaching staff. 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.000 I'm thankful for all my loved ones being there for 0:23:58.160 --> 0:23:59.919 me during this tough time. They know who they are. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:00.840 I'm not going to go. 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.760 Name them, but they know who they are. They've been 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.119 there for me a lot through the years. So that 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.320 makes me feel good. And then you know, obviously the 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:13.879 training staff that gets creative pushes me. 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.480 I push them. We got a great relationship. Certainly, I've 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:18.160 been in there enough. 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:18.600 We better. 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:23.280 But you know, if anything ever happens again, we'll get 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:24.840 right back to it. So we got to keep going 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:28.840 on it. So haven't yelled like that in a wild 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.360 Hobbs cloud out there. 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:37.119 Joe Burrow with reflections After Thursday night, we'll offer reflections 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.440 on Joe's performance, things that stood out, and continue on 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.200 on this Monday night, It's Bengals Line on the Bengals 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:50.200 Radio Network at ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. We 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.760 are rolling right along on Bengals line on this Monday 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.159 Night on the Bengals Radio Network in ESPN fifteen to 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.680 thirty LANs but Catlester and Dave Blapham picking up the 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.760 pieces from Thursday night's win in Baltimore, looking ahead to 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.320 those Buffalo bills, anticipating conversation. In our second hour tonight 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.800 with Jeff Hobson's senior writer from Bengals dot Com, we 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.720 heard from Joe Burrow in the last segment and Dave 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.680 I was struck after the game in a in a 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:16.520 really funny scene with Melissa starts on the NBCTV side 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.399 and the gathering of the players around and they are 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.800 handing out turkey legs and there was a celebration and 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.119 Joe was asked by Melissa about coming back, and he 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:29.280 got emotional. He paused and his eyes kind of welled up. 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.600 It just seemed like the moment hit him of everything 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.159 he'd been through and fought through and got through to 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.920 turn into performance that Yeah, there were some rough edges 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:39.880 to it, but he had to feel good about overall. 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.760 It was it was any I think we lose sight 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.399 of that sometime, the emotional aspect of the time and 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.679 effort putting into coming back, and it really hit him 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:49.800 on Thursday night, it did. 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.440 And and people, you know, don't realize the amount of 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.560 effort that you have to put into rehab, you know, 0:25:55.720 --> 0:26:00.159 and the players, a lot of players get emotion no 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:04.399 going through that rehab process and everything that you have 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.760 to do, and how hard you have to push yourself 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.159 and you think you maybe hit the limit, but no, 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.120 there's more. You got to reach down and and find 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:17.240 another high to go hit. And and uh, I think 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.879 I think it did finally all come down upon Joe Burrow, 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.600 you know, and uh, hey, he's human, you know, he's 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:28.080 not a robot. The guy's got emotions. And he really 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:29.760 put a lot of work, a lot of effort, a 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.760 lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.639 everything into that into that rehab process. And and and 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.840 then to go on the road and a division rival 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:40.919 and get a win, you know, to top it off, 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.040 he he came back a lot earlier than people thought 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.600 he would. You know, that's a tribute to him as well, 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.159 how how much he works and how the kind of 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.920 shape that he keeps himself in. The guy really is 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.840 dedicated to the game of football. And uh, he's all 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:57.640 about football. 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.680 Albert Breyer of Monday Morning Quarter wrote a kind of 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.040 behind the scenes after an interview he did with Joe. 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.520 And I was struck by Joe saying in the interview 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.840 how much he researched the injury and how many people 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.440 he talked to and figured out the things he had 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.840 to avoid. And he said, I started to think critically 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.880 about it, and he kept researching, and he kept asking questions, 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.399 and he pushed himself. And then the next day, how 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.359 do you feel? And he felt fine. He pushed himself 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.760 a little bit more. And just there's a lot that 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.119 goes into it. It's just not lift some weights, do 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.520 some whatever that there's a lot of I just I 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.639 was struck by researching critical thinking and that sounds like 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.920 Joe Burrow. It's going to be a project to test 0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:40.640 a challenge for him that he welcomes. 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:42.639 I couldn't agree with you more, Lance, I mean, that 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:45.600 is what Joe Burrow is all about. He's all about 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.000 the challenge, you know, He's all about the challenge of 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.879 winning football games. He's all about the challenge of getting 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.320 his body right. He's all about the challenge of getting 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:54.840 in his body right in record time. 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:55.560 You know. 0:27:55.720 --> 0:28:01.360 If and I don't think anybody's surprised that the research 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.800 that he put into it. I need to know exactly 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.480 what happened to me? What what what was this injury? 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.280 What caused this injury? What could I have done, if anything, 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.640 to prevent this injury? What can I do to prevent 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.480 this injury from reoccurring in the future. You know, he's 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.080 he's an inquisitive guy. He's a very intelligent man. He 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.840 wants to know. Uh, you know, he's a learned man. 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.240 He reads a lot of different things, a lot of 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:30.040 different books, and h his his uh medical research. I'm 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.320 sure it was exhaustive. And Joey Bosse was telling me 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.520 that man, he had a million questions. It's like, you know, 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.080 how joe is he? You know, he answered one question, 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.000 it leads to two others, and he wants to know 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.200 the answer to both of those, and then it leads 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.000 to three more, and it goes on and on and on. 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.040 But I think that's what makes him great, that's what 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.600 makes him special. He uh, he's gonna leave no stone unturned, 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.360 There's no question about that. And as a result of that, 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.800 his rehab was a thing of beauty. It was a 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.200 record Center. Yeah, he told Albert Breer. 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.000 The original plan in his mind was to return for 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.880 the Buffalo game, but then he started feeling better and 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.680 he said, I was feeling pretty dang good. 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.520 And then that the week leading up to the. 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:15.040 Patriots, and Zach alluded to it, he felt some soreness 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.960 body wise after practice, which you totally understand it wasn't 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.120 related to the foot, But if you haven't practiced in 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.560 seventy days and suddenly you're a full go, you're gonna 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.920 feel some soreness. And I think everybody understands Zach erring 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.320 on the side of hey, I know it's not toe related, 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.680 but you're sore. We've come this far, and I've always 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.360 I've always remembered in talking with players who go through injuries, 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.040 the biggest challenge is it's like running the race and 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:38.880 you get right to the tape of the finish line 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.040 and you want to run right through, and sometimes you 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.080 have to to pause right there and think, all right, 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.240 I'm on a schedule, I've got a plan. I can't 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.080 rush it right at the end or I'm gonna have 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:49.600 a setback. 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.800 Potential setback is a big deal. Lands there's no doubt 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.760 and that's and I'm not saying I don't think Joe 0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.000 Burrow was necessary that that was at the top of 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.680 his mind, but it was in there. It was, you know, 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.200 in the back of his mind. Uh and not way back, 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.840 not buried in the back of his mind. And enjoy 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.760 Bo saying the medical people they all had had considered 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.360 that as well. And I can tell you that even 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.320 if in the beginning of training camp back in the day, 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.400 a lot of it was there was the conditioning part 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.040 of it, and there was football involved, but there was 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.720 a lot of conditioning as well as france and up 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.400 downsitting the ground, all that kind of thing. I'm not 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.280 saying that Joe did updowns and all that, but he 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:29.920 did a lot of running and he was going to 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.320 test it. And you do you get sore. You know, 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.280 you're you're not a robot, you aren't, like I said, 0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.760 You're a human being, you know, and you are going 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.000 to have to work through storness. Some guys it takes 0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.080 a little bit longer than others to work through stillness, 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.840 and Joe, being the world class athlete that he is, 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.920 works through it pretty quickly. But there was bottom line, 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.360 no need to rush him. I mean The worst thing 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.720 that could have happened is to let him go out 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.760 there and play too soon and then suffer a setback 0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:02.360 and then everybody get all over, you know, everybody, medical people, 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:06.000 the organization, the coaches, the play, the player himself. You 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.440 want to avoid that at all costs. 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.440 Jaren May of News five. I was watching a feature 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.840 he did yesterday on the shoe that Joe is now using, 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.440 and he turned to a guy named Jeff Angler, who's 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:19.000 the go to orthopedics for orthopedis for athletes, and they 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.240 did a foot mapping thing with as censors and part 0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:23.880 of what was built into the shoe, and is this 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.840 really fascinating stuff. And it's like an F one race 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.120 car form of a shoe. It's like the topeline shoe 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.280 that can be mapped out for something like this. But 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.000 I laughed because Joe said in the Albert Bear piece 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.600 the plan was when he got to the sidelines, he'd 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.120 take that shoe off and just wear more of a 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.600 normal shoe while the defense was on the field and 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.000 let his toe, for lack of a better word, breathe 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.640 a little bit. But the Bengals defense was turning the 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.880 Ravens over so much Joe was like having to put 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.520 the shoe back on and go out to the field, 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.600 which is a good thing, but a funny thing of Joe. 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.360 Like, gotta put the other shoe back onto your back, 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.600 out of the field, enough time to let that bout, 0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:03.480 you know. Yeah, I mean it was again. It was 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.840 a classic, classic day for a complete football game. Was 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.480 probably the best day that they could have done it 0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.760 because of Joe Burrow's return. It was his first game, 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.760 so why put it all on his shoulders. You don't 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.479 want to overburden Joe Burrow and say, oh, yeah, Joe's back, Joe, 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:19.400 go win the game for us. 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.440 Joe's back. We're good. Nobody has to do anything. Yep, Joe, 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.000 go do it. We know you can. No offense, defense, 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:31.760 special teams. Everybody did their thing. Everybody contributed to the car. 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.959 I also believe, final thought, even though he was seventy 0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.520 four days away, not all of those away, but not 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.600 practicing all the time, I still believe if you put 0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.239 Joe and Jamar on a field, just the two of them, 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.680 and blindfolded both of them and set out Jamar and 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.920 said we're going to run this route, I would love 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.400 to watch Joe drop and Jamar run his route and 0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.360 the ball would be right there. It's just I'd love 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.360 to see like a scan telepathically of those two where 0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.760 they are on the field together, because the lines would match, 0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.440 because it seems like they they're in each other's minds. 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.640 Yeah, they're on the same page. Yes, no doubt about that. 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.240 And you know, you think about it all those throws 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.840 at LSU as well, So it is it's like they 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.360 could they could run routes and Joe could Jamar could 0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.840 run routes and Joe could throw passes to Jamarrow in 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.080 their sleep. Yes, you know, just dream about it and 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.200 put the ball right on the money and Jamar make 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:23.840 a great catch. 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.800 All right, let's head down the stretch, put our first 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.680 hour in the books, take a little bit of a 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.080 closer look at the AFC North for a we'll run 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:32.760 a two minute drill to close out the air. Then 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:35.560 we'll get the Jeff Hopson in the second hour. Tonight, 0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.040 it's Bengals Line of the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:43.960 fifteen to thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. Down the stretch we go, 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.320 putting our first three big hours in the books tonight 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.440 on Bengals Line we're doing it on ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.360 We thank you for hanging out with us tonight. 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.360 Bengals Friday Nights Stripes Lance That tour is presented by 0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.880 a Hilecat and they're back for all locations this season. 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.800 Out to Bengals dot com slash community Dave. 0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.600 We touched on the division a little bit earlier. But 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.920 the Ravens are six and six, the Steelers are six 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.560 and six, the Bengals four and eight, the Browns three 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:14.760 and nine, and it's it's no great to earth shattering 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.680 news that the Bengals played better than anybody in the 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.400 division over the weekend. There's five games left and if 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.160 you look at the trends, Steelers didn't look good yesterday. 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.600 Ravens with with Lamar certainly banged up, don't look the same. 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.280 The Bengals, all of a sudden, are positioned and healthy 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.160 with Joe back to They're not in front of the pack, 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.120 but they're in position to start chasing and gaining a 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.120 lot of ground on the pack. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.560 Yeah, it's almost like Secretariat when it was closed, you know, 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:47.879 all of a sudden, Yeah, I don't know. Take take 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.600 that outside lane and just maybe you're running further, but 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.640 you're still running faster. You know, it's like unbelievable. So 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.960 it would be it would be a great finish. They've 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.600 done it before, yep. I mean they've they've climbed back 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.480 into a race and then and then finished it strong. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.880 And uh and you know, gotting a wild card in 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.400 the in the playoffs and uh, it's it's certainly not 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.880 beyond the realm of possibility, particularly the way they're playing. 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.319 And again, lams, I think the defense has woken up. 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.880 That's that's gonna be a big deal. Well, no defense 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.840 wins championships. Defense gets you in the playoffs. Very rarely 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.799 do you have a playoff team that's a sieve defensively. 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.800 You know, they have to hold up their end of 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.640 the bargain. And the Bengals defense has been doing a 0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:33.839 hell of a job of that in the last five 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.719 or six weeks. Off for sure, by the. 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:39.080 Way they were when they played Renegade in Pittsburgh yesterday, 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.560 they were booing the Steelers, booing the Steelers during Renegade 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.040 and Aaron Rodgers after the game it was perceived as 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.040 throwing his wide receivers under the bus and and TJ. 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.360 Watt wasn't happy about the defense and how the Bills 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.520 ran the same play over and over again and their 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.920 adjustments weren't being made. And it's not a good vibe 0:35:58.960 --> 0:35:59.839 in Pittsburgh right now. 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:03.120 That that's a shame. That's that's I feel so badly 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:08.160 for him. God, But how about the on the on 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:14.760 the network post game showy, they preference Aaron Rodgers cashus 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.960 Clay before it's Muhammedally. Yeah, it's like, I'm trying to 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.200 think it was a coward. Was somebody say it's like 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.320 cashus Clay. I mean, he's he's beaten up, wow, and 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.759 he's he's lost his uh, he's lost his fastball, he's 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:30.040 lost his knockout punch. I'm like, wow, man, that's that's like, 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.319 oh man, that's like calling him out, big time, big time, 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:33.960 calling him out. 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.600 All right, our first hour officially done. Hang with us, 0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.480 Thanks for being here to this point. Up next, we'll 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.080 talk with Jeff Hobson of Bengals dot Com. We've got 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:42.960 a whole lot to sort through between now and nine 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:46.240 o'clock on Bengals Line, the Bengals Radio Network, and ESPN 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.200 fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.560 This is Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network pay Corps. 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.560 Pay Corp is proud to be the official HR software 0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:01.640 provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. Ringow best Care for the 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:06.560 best Fans, Kettle Ringoo, official healthcare provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.760 This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the best 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:11.920 Bengals coverage. 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.880 All right, let's keep rolling along on this journey that 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.320 we call Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network in 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.400 ESPN fifteen thirty Lance but Cantlester Dave Lapham, what a 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:21.440 treat man. 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:22.759 Oh man, it's been a while. 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:24.080 I don't know if we I don't know if we've 0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:25.879 ever had him on Bengals, and we probably have, it's 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.960 been too long because I don't remember. But sitting next 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.960 to us now, the senior writer twenty five years Bengals 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.840 dot Com, that would be none other than Jeff Hobson. 0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:38.279 Man, it is great to see you. 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.320 I'm only halfway to lap It's good to see you, 0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.600 see guy. I think the last time I went face 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.360 to face was probably in the Marvin Lewis. 0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.360 Yes, it's it's good to. 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.319 Let's let's let's do a little Homer Jones when Roger 0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:53.239 Lap him would go out in the back yard and 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.880 it's right with Lapp and his uh and his brothers, 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.800 my brother Bruce, Yeah, Bruce, Bruce and Roger. 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:02.359 They can play some homage. That was Roger's favorite player 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:03.959 was also my favorite. 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.960 Place, right so he could run now Olympia, I mean 0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.480 he was, he was an Olympic sprinter. Homa Jones talented dude. 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.879 Invented the spike, yeah, which I didn't which I didn't 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:14.640 know till he passed. 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.920 Yeah, and he he just kind of like casually, you know, 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:23.080 classically dropped the ball. Isaac did the the old nothing 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.919 better than the classic, guys. Yeah. 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.440 Uh, let's go back to Thursday night we were talking earlier. 0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.320 Would you be fair to say that was the best 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.359 all around performance of the season for this team. 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.319 Yeah, there's no question, might be for the last couple 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.719 of years. Maybe when you put all three phases in there. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.160 Because McPherson knocked in six, which is which is pretty good, 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.640 you know. And uh, what's we've been hearing at all 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.480 all year complimentary football. That's what it looks like, boys, 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.600 and it's pretty pretty impressive. Uh you know, I mean, 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.440 I know Lama may not be Lama, but to go 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.360 down there, and you know, John Highball was undefeated on 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.200 Thursday night at home, so uh, you know, to get 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.400 that one in. I think it's a last time the 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.160 Bengals won on the road in the division on a 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.880 Thursday night. They haven't played very many, but it was 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.960 Jeff Blake unfurled a one fifty eight and three rivers. 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:17.799 Pass right, win, right. 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.719 You wrote about it, it was like Joe Burrow never 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.040 left early. Shook off a little bit of rust as expected, 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.120 but man, he got rolling and he was Joe. 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.759 I mean you might be thinking, ah, you know, they'll uh, 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.000 maybe they'll put him under center hand it off a 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.880 little bit, maybe like that first series when he when 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.200 he when he did when play action did a little boot, 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.040 maybe a couple easy throat. 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.600 No way, man, he was. He was out there and 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.120 yeah and uh you know, yeah he was. Yeah, I 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:48.680 mean he was not. 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.560 Uh if you look at the completion percentage, you know, 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.839 this guy is the all time leading completion percentage leader, 0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.359 so he wasn't near that number, but boy, he made 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.719 some He made some clutch throws on third down that 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:02.399 looked like he had never left, you know, the first 0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.920 third down that Jim had the third and ten. You know, 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.160 of course, the two touchdown passes, both on third downs, 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.399 both against the Blitz and jeez, you know, I mean, 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.879 seventy five days, where have they gone? 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.120 The thing about him that I was really impressed with 0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:23.000 as well, a lot everything he said, no interceptions, did 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.120 not turn the ball over. Yeah, didn't put the ball 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.560 in jeopardy, never put the ball in harm's way. I 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.279 mean against that defense, I mean Baltimore's defense. You know, 0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.319 they can be sometimes a little tough to figure out 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.040 what are they doing. They disguise coverage is pretty darn well, 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.120 you know. And and Joe was never fooled. He never 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:42.800 he never took the hook to the belly. 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:42.960 You know. 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:47.080 He basically made his reads and read him out properly 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:51.080 and made great throws. I mean, that's that is the 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:55.759 undoing of teams against the Baltimore Ravens. They turned the 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:59.080 football over. They give the Ravens extra possessions and take 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.040 possessions away from themselves. And the Bengals and Joe Burrow 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.120 they refuse to do it. I mean, he's had great 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.880 success against Baltimore for that reason. 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.480 Yeah, if you know, and we saw, you know, I mean, 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.600 if it's December, they still must be in it. 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.440 Yeah, right, And so it's the two out. 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.560 And what we saw in the four to twenty five 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.000 game was exactly what you're talking about lap turnovers. I 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.400 mean that game was switched on back to back possessions 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.400 with the with the scoop and score and the pick right, 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.920 and uh, you know, now I can assure you the 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.200 Ravens are not going to come in here in another 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.000 week and turn it over five times. Absolutely, they hadn't. 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.319 The Bengals hadn't done that to him in like eighteen years. 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:42.040 But but you said, if Joe keeps that goose egg there, right, 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.040 then you know they can be in anybody if they 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:45.960 keep the goose egg. Anybody can beat anybody if you 0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:46.879 have a goose egg there. 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.239 I mean, I think it's the most important stat in 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.040 the NFL, turnovers. And if you don't turn the football over, 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.600 if you're if you're clean in that department, you have 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.040 a hell of a chance of winning a lot of games. Yeah. 0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:58.879 Well, if you look, I'm sorry, go ahead. 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.759 No, I was just gonna say, uh this, Zach and 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.279 Joe have been very successful in December Joe's ten and three, 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.759 and you know it, it's directly relatable with to what 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.840 you said the turnovers, you know, and it's uh, you 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.799 know what is it is because they're in sync. They've 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:16.879 gotten all the kinks out. 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:17.400 Now. 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.319 Granted he hasn't played. 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.319 So maybe it's unfair to match him against those other 0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:23.759 Decembers because he's been playing. 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:24.200 But I don't know. 0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.600 I mean, it's like he said the other night, he goes, well, 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.120 he goes, I had been I did have all a 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.319 training camp, yeah, you know, and so I mean, uh, 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.680 you know, if if I mean, if he comes close 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.960 to what he's done in in this December, you know, 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:38.359 they do have a shot to run the table. 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.400 So many different guys made plays. I always look at 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:42.640 my sheet at the end of the game and I 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.799 see a whole bunch of names listed that that that's 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.680 usually a good thing because I'm writing down positives and Tanner, 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:51.040 Hudson and Joe's alluded to it. Just the trust he 0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.560 has in Tanner and what they've developed, and and he 0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.640 gets rewarded with a spectacular one hand catch. 0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.400 You know, your Facebook posts are great. That's close as 0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.600 I get to social media, which is still which is 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.320 still too close. I should be wearing a you know, 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.400 I should be wearing a vest. But uh well, you 0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:10.560 know you always write your thoughts on a right after, 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.000 and it's and it's almost always right around with one 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:17.040 of them, you know, thinking. And so the Hudson thing, 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.360 I'm thinking, you know, I'm looking here in this end 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:21.200 zone and it does it seems like two weeks ago 0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:22.319 that he went to. 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.440 Hudson for the two pointer. Yeah right, you know, and 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:25.839 then that's how much he trusts him. 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.560 The game was, I mean, he had just threw a 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:29.840 great ball to Jama with two guys hanging on for 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.399 the touchdown, but Boomy went to Tanner in that moment. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:33.160 Now, it didn't work. 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:35.880 Probably could probably should have had another snap because he 0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.320 tore his head off, right, but uh, you know, and 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.640 that was that was the biggest you can make that argument. 0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:42.000 That was the biggest play of the game. It was 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.759 twelve seven and boom he made it. Yes, nineteen seven 0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:45.399 thirty nine. 0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.400 They're that close to kicking another field goal, right right, 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.960 you know, So that was you know, Hudson's this guy, 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:51.960 I'll tell you. 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.960 You look at it, and Joe loves to throw the 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.600 tight end I mean he loves that position group and 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:01.719 he's got goot guys that can catch the football, can 0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.080 run routes and catch the football. 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:03.279 Man. 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.080 I mean, Kaziki's almost like a big slot receiver, you know, 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.600 the way he runs routes and his ability to get 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.120 real strong hands, you know, catch it and tuck it 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.759 away and keep it out of harm's way. He's not 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.920 gonna spit the bit and give the football away. Uh 0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:22.279 you know. I mean Tanner Hudson, he's he's legit. I mean, 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.080 he runs as good a route and that's what Joe 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.960 I remember talking to him in training camp. He said, 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.560 this guy runs routes as crisp and cleanly as any 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.319 tight end that I've worked with. And the big word 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:38.520 is trust. He trusts Tanner Hudson. He trusts Tanner Hudson's 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.359 going to be where he's supposed to be when he's 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.120 supposed to be there, and if it's catchable football, he's 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:44.000 going to make the catch. 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:45.120 You know, it's interesting. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.000 I was going to see what would he do, how 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.759 would he respond intensely because he intentionally made a great 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.480 move on I think it was Humphrey. I want I 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.120 want to say it was Marlon hump yeh. And there 0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.320 was a major league move on a Pro Bowl corner 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.760 and he stopped. I think that's six, right if Tinsley 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:03.960 keeps going right. But you know what, Joe kept going 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.879 to him, which I thought that was a big sign 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.520 for the young fella, because you know, Joe, he's not 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.120 gonna if you're not you know, if he's not doing 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.440 what you expect, goodbye, Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:15.840 And he but he went right back to Ye. 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.760 He didn't want anybody freelance. No, he didn't want anybody 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.239 doing something that's not you know, supposed to be done. 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.040 But he went right back to you know what. You know, 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.000 he went back to which that good. 0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:25.319 Yeah. 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.960 Anybody who knows Jeff Hobson knows you like to run 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:31.240 the football. And over the last six weeks, Chase Brown 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.239 six consecutive one hundred yards plus from scrimmage. In those 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.560 six games, he's rushed for five hundred and two almost 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:42.399 seven yards of carry and Jeff, he's now on pace 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.399 for over fourteen hundred total yards from scrimmage this season. 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.279 You know, I think maybe lap you and I were 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.920 talking about this, the first Bengal to go six in 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.480 a Row. You know, AJ Green didn't do that, Corey 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.880 Dylan Dune didn't do that, or James Brooks or Jamack Chase. 0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.480 I mean, wow, yeah, you know, he kind of snuck 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.439 that in there. But I think in lap would could 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.319 you know, I would certainly yield the floor to. 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:05.520 H to lap On. 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.120 This is I think the offensive line is. 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.520 I think the rookie gads and now the last couple 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.520 of games they've been going with rising because you know, 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.840 because Jalen Rivers has been hurt, but fair Child and 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.480 I mean, I you know, they've been talking about this 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:25.319 duo play that I think is really I think they've 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.040 struck goal of that, which is basically a double team, right, 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.399 and and they get to the second level and there 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.400 you know that means your Gads and Teddy. 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:34.640 I think Teddy's having a good year. 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.279 Yeah, I mean people want to you know, they've you know, 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.240 they've uh some people want to say, well, Teddy's turning. 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.200 I think he's playing as well as probably as he 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.880 played last year, right, and he played pretty good. So 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.440 I think the interior I think that's been you know, 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.040 I think the young guy I think I think the 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:51.960 rookie guards have been good the guy. 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.600 The guy that I in Bengal history, the running back 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.600 that I compare Brown to, the Chase Brown to is 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:02.120 Essex Johnson express about the same height Essex, like five 0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:06.919 to nine over two hundred pounds, you know, quick change 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.279 of direction, guys. Really, I mean Essex could have played 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.879 played slot receiver, and I think Chase Brown could too 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.959 play slot receiver. You know, the way they run routes 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.520 and everything, and great red zone weapons, low red zone weapons. 0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.279 I think I think there's a there's a correlation there 0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:24.040 between those that just two guys. 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.000 You know, it's interesting, you know the last game they 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.080 played before you join the organization. If I'm not mistaken, 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.560 I think Essex Johnson suffered a devastating knee injinet in 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:36.719 that playoff game against Miami, right, and that led to 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.359 the Issac Curtis rule, because I think, I I think, 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.759 if I'm not mistaken, I think Essex went down early, 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:45.360 maybe in the first series, and so you know, what 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:47.200 was there to do but to go to Curtis and 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.799 Joyna right and Trumpy and they just malls Curtis because 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:53.960 they couldn't hand it off to Essex, right, you know. 0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.520 But yeah, I mean that's a that's a guy we 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:57.879 probably don't talk about enough. 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.200 Yeah, Essex express Man, that that was his nickname, and 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.600 that dude, he was a Player's. 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.120 Take a time out to continue more to get to 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.480 in this hour, Jeff Hobson are a very special guest 0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.800 hanging out in Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:17.040 and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey, we're rolling, 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.640 no reason to slow down. We are cruising through our 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.799 second raton out of Bengals on and the Bengals Radio 0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.480 Network a THEESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Lance McAllister, 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.200 Dave Lap him alongside our very special guest Jeff Hobson 0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.279 of Bengals dot Com. We want don't want to leave 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.080 the defense out of this which forces five turnovers, and 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.680 talking about guys that show up on a sheet where 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:39.200 you're making notes. Let's start with Miles Murphy, who I 0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.920 know there was there's been frustration and wait of is 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.279 it going to kick in? When is it going to 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.520 kick in? Seems like it's kicking in. Miles Murphy is 0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:46.000 on a roll. 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:47.839 You know left you know this every time he talked 0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:49.880 to Miles, he always talks about being violent. 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.360 Yeah, about being violent. 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.120 He was violent the other night, I thought, you know, 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.920 and it's when you play them, when you play Baltimore, 0:48:56.960 --> 0:49:00.239 it's so important to set the h you know, because 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:02.440 Lama will just even if Lami is not Lami. 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.480 They'll still they'll still kill you. Yeah, he'll still kill 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:05.400 you with that run game. 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.560 No doubt. And uh talk to him in the locker 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.360 room after the game, and he was uh quick to 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.799 credit BJ Hill for his effort. They ran a lot 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.600 of twists and stunts on pass rush, and uh, he 0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:19.480 came clean a couple of times. BJ did a good 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.960 job of grabbing two guys and and Miles Murphy came 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.759 clean and you know, made some plays, got some hits 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.000 on the quarterback. I like the kid though. The kid's 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:34.400 very smart. He's very recollective. Yeah, very very uh very 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:39.600 I mean he's uh not introverted, that's not the right 0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:43.120 word for it, but very introspective. I guess something like that. 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.279 He's he's one of those one of those kind of 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.680 guys that's a deep thinker kind of guy for you know, 0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:49.800 as people say, for a football player, man, you're a 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.040 pretty deep thinker, you know, I. 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:51.920 Tell you know, what a guy. 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.960 I've a I've always loved those because I just think 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.160 he's all out. He's just a football player, athlete and 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.120 and and he's just been hurt by the injury. But 0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.160 if you know, if you guys remember in twenty twenty two, 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.560 he had a great run in the last stretch of 0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.560 twenty twenty two and everybody wants to remember they hit 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:09.759 on Mahomes. Well, I remember that series. They were third 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.880 and five because of josephos right on that because he 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.279 made so many he made many big plays in that game. 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.759 And unfortunately that last play. I mean, she said, I 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:20.880 don't mind him trying to tackle Patrick Mahomes. I mean 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:24.080 he's running down the sideline with my with my playoff bonus, right, 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:28.239 you know what I mean, Please please please chase them down, right, 0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.160 you know what I mean. So I don't know, I 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.200 still don't understand that hit. But maybe I'm a little 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:33.080 bit too personal. 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:34.080 But let me agree. 0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:35.759 Let me ask you this lab about the defense, and 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:40.160 I I mean, I thought the last two weeks, I 0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.880 thought they put Drake May. I thought they did a 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.359 good job with pressure on Drake May. And I thought 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.080 they really did a good job. Obviously, pressure led to 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.160 it like two or three of the turnovers. Yeah, so 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:52.160 you know, so they had been I think they were 0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.400 they had had the fewest the lowest flits percentage. I 0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:59.200 think I think Al's gonna I mean, I thought, yeah, yeah, 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:00.680 I thought they might have let Drake Mayo off the 0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:02.319 hook a little bit. I think they could have, uh, 0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:05.239 because they blitzed him, well, I thought. And then I 0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:08.040 thought they really came up big. I mean, I you know, 0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.160 I salute Al because I think he's he's you know, 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:12.319 he's been getting a lot of heat. 0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:16.279 But you know, I think Zach said this kind of 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.520 alluded to this Friday that you know a lot of 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.920 young guys out there. Yeah, and you know it's not 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.279 you can't just come out blitz them with these. 0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.279 Guys, right, you know that was gonna be my question. 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.719 Are they blitzing more out of necessity or is it 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.120 more because there's a better understanding of what they want? 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:31.239 Or is it a combination of both. 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.560 Probably I think it's a combination. Yeah, I mean, I 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:37.120 think I think that you know, Al Golden, Al Goldon 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.360 is a smart cat man. He is He's got his 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:42.560 doctorate in defense and and uh, and he has a 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:46.000 he has a way of teaching a methodology, you know, 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.240 and uh, particularly with young guys, you know, he doesn't 0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:52.400 want to speed the process up too much, you know. 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:54.759 And I think I think we're going to see a 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.520 lot more blitzing, a lot more creative looks in the 0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:01.040 blitz packages as the season wears on here. Uh that's uh, 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:03.200 that's kind of an m O with l Golden. 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.799 Yeah, because I mean they got the I think they 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.839 have the corners that can cover even without camp Taylor Britd. 0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.360 I think Dax Hill and. 0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.959 DJ Turner's having a hell of a year. Man. DJ 0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:17.440 Turner and Dax Hill, both both those guys are as 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.520 good open field tacklers as I've seen this year in 0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:22.719 the league. They get people on the ground, man, they 0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:24.080 really do the job. 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.919 Skinny made an interesting but Richard Skinner we were talking 0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:28.960 about DJ Turner and he says he's got to the 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.719 point now where if somebody makes a catch on him, 0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:35.239 you're looking for yea. And it has been the last 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.239 two times like it's been a big play, it's been 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.879 offensive as an affair, he's been really good. 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:40.120 Yeah. 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:44.360 Yeah, And we shouldn't leave Jordan battle out, who hustled 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.480 back on the play, knocks it away. That's going to 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:48.800 be a touchdown, right, and suddenly it's Bengals football. 0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:51.040 Yeah, I guess, I guess. I guess that will end 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:54.200 all conversation about character and all that stuff. 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:59.960 I guess. I mean, there's no substitute for hustle, many hustle, energy, enthusiasm, 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:01.640 all those intangibles. 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:03.000 That's gonna be a lot. 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.840 I'm sure it's on Zach's tape to show the players, 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.600 and it should be on every and greater, every greater 0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:13.600 Cincinnati High school football coaches tape that Jordan Battle. 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:17.719 Yeah, you use the word energy, and I want to 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.960 apply it to Joe, And I was struck by can't 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:21.719 remember if Orlando said it to you or one of 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.640 the other writers. How Joe is the engine of this 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:28.200 team and there is clearly a a lifting and an 0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:30.960 energy like a plug in a socket into the wall, 0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.000 like now we go, Joe is here with this team. 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.080 Yeah, I mean, it's just that's it's it's always been 0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:36.480 that way. 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.960 Was that way when he showed up in COVID and 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.480 nobody knew what was going on, but you knew that 0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.959 that guy was something special, even though everybody was wearing 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:48.080 masks and kind of on eggshells, that guy, and he's 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.200 been he's been special ever since. And I thought, uh, 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.000 you know, you guys heard him. I thought he was 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.240 really that's about as emotional as I've ever seen. 0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:57.920 Walking about that absolutely. 0:53:58.160 --> 0:53:59.880 Yeah, I mean that was that was interesting to me, 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.560 you know, and that and to me, that's the difference 0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:06.600 between maybe Joe Burrow, who turns twenty nine next week, 0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.800 if that's at all possible, opposed to a Joe Burrow 0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:13.960 who was maybe you know, twenty three, twenty four. You live, 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.840 you know, things mean more to you, mean more to 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:18.560 you as you get older. And that's I think that 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.480 goes for all of us alive. 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:24.000 Yeah, father time keeps ticking on, man, the stand keeps 0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:26.279 coming out of the whatever the hell. 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.600 It's just interesting to see how much we've seen him, Yeah, 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.759 seen him, you know, even though I mean he keeps things, 0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:34.799 you know, talk about a guy, he keeps things close 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:36.560 to them, no doubt. And who's an but who's an 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:40.200 introspective guy. Yeah, you know, but you know he's letting us, 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:41.839 he's let us watch them grow. 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.400 Yep, no question, you wrote about it. 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:45.920 I want to ask you about it and I want 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:47.560 to give him some love because we're going to hear 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:49.160 him get a game ball later on in the the 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.239 third hour. Tell listeners they may have heard the name 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:55.879 Jeff Brickner. Tell listeners who he is and the role 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.239 he played in Salvaging Wednesday Night. 0:54:58.760 --> 0:54:59.880 Jeff Brickner does it all. 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:03.600 He's like, he's like an astronaut on a spacewalk, but 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.080 twenty four but twenty four to seven. He does everything 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.880 you can ask. I mean from you know, fixing my 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.200 desk draw, getting somebody, getting somebody to fish my dest draw, 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.400 to get these guys to Baltimore time and everything in between. 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.799 And a Jeff Brickner trip usually right to the itinerary, 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:23.880 right to the minute. You know, well, this was not 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.480 this was not this was uh we've all been he 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:30.799 could right, no, no, and and and and the thing 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.120 was what he had waiting back when he had waiting 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:37.080 in Baltimore was a Thanksgiving feast that would make Miles 0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.040 Standish crush, right. I mean it was amazing and he 0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.440 couldn't get there, and he couldn't but he get everybody. 0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:46.160 But he get everybody there, you know, uh, complete complete 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.000 with a Zach Taylor boarding announcement. 0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.200 Yeah and uh. 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:55.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be boarding there. But Hobson co 0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:59.560 goes in last. But I think what happened was the 0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.680 uh you know, we everybody get to the hotel, and 0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:04.719 it was, uh it was it was as good brick 0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.080 could make it, as good as a good bea. 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.759 So I think the game ball is a salute to 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:11.640 you know, his body of work. 0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:15.040 And that you know, uh body works a good way 0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.400 to put it because he will not Initially he was 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:20.759 an assistant trainer. He was taking ankles. Yes, I mean 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.440 the guy was basically uh Marv Pollin's guy that was 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:25.440 was as lackey. 0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:25.680 You know. 0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:27.840 It's like he's like, I'm gonna give you all the 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:29.440 crap jobs to do, and you're gonna do him. You're 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.040 gonna do a smile on your face. He's he's done everything. 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.840 I mean, he's he's drained the hot tubs, he's you 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:38.000 name it, he's he's done it all. And uh, nobody 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:42.120 knows more about the inner workings of the organization than 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.439 Jeff Brickner because he's he's been in meetings with Mike 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:49.680 and uh the Blackburn and Brown family that nobody has 0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:51.880 been in and and things have been talked about that 0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:55.120 nobody else is part of other than you know, Brick's 0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.720 the only one outside of the immediate family, the blood 0:56:58.000 --> 0:56:59.480 related family that's part of that. 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.200 I mean, he and Micah and Mike close. I mean 0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:06.120 they're you know, they talk, you know, I mean, Jeff's 0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:09.839 his guy, he Mike uh, Jeff Britton to make sure 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:13.840 Mike's gets on the bus safely every single week. That 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:17.400 he looks at that as one of his prime responsibilities, 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.600 to make sure that Mike Brown is okay and traveling 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:24.200 safely to and from uh the the airport in the stadium, Bengals. 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:28.200 So explain to me what what happened. I can't imagine. 0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:30.320 It's mechanical issues and it's five and a half hours 0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:32.439 sitting on the plane. I would have lost my mind. 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:34.760 How do you sit on a plane five and a 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:35.280 half hours? 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:38.000 I mean I'm terrible. Yeah, I mean I worked, so 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:39.400 I was I had an out. 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:40.040 Yeah. 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:43.400 In fact, Browning, Jake Browning came down. Jake Browne was 0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:44.840 making it. He was almost like the host. 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:46.919 It was like the mayor, the mayor of the flight. 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.400 He's coming in checking on uh. Yeah, kind of watched 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:55.439 me typing and scowled, but uh, you know it was Yeah. 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:57.280 I mean, I don't know what guys did. I guess 0:57:57.480 --> 0:57:59.200 that would have been a good opportunity for me to 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.400 but I figured guys, I just figured guys weren't probably 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:03.160 in a good root. 0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.680 So yeah, I know, I know a lot of that. 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.080 I went back to take a leak at one point, 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:11.320 and everybody was watching their movies, you know. Yeah, I 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:15.360 mean there those those movies on those flights are pretty impressive. 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:19.600 It's not like getting marooned in nineteen seventy three. People 0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:22.680 had things to do, right, and I, uh, you know, 0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.640 they don't want to see me anyway, So I would 0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.680 imagine in a close quarters for five hours, I just. 0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:30.200 I kept a little profile. 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.439 But everybody, like, you know, Zach made a good point, 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.920 it was a good time to probably it was a 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.360 good bonding thing, good bonding. Yeah, And he made an 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.560 interesting point like like I said, Brick had that miles 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:47.400 Standish feast and uh it was tremendous, and but everybody 0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:50.240 instead of putting it in a box and going up 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.080 going upstairs to their rooms, they all stay right, Yeah, 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:53.840 more bonding. 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:55.320 Yeah, which was which was? 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:55.680 I think? 0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:55.840 You know? 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.680 I think, uh a lot of guys would have you know. 0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:02.240 I think possibly as if it turns out that way, 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.520 if the Bengals do make the playoffs, they're going to 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.120 point back to this and say this was the turning 0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:10.200 point and could have fallen apart, could have had, you know, 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:15.040 major problems, major issues. But guys, you know, showed some maturity, 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:19.440 showed some growth, and and won that football game in 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:22.600 spite of all the obstacles, went out and played a 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:24.320 hell of a game, maybe their best game of the year, 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.840 and from that point on they were hell on wheels, 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.000 tough to deal with. All Right, we need to take 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:30.560 a time out. 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:34.600 What would I would I be able to convince you 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.920 to stay for one more segment to talk about the 0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.240 Hall of Fame? Sure, we've we've overextended you to this 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.200 point based on our promises to you. Would you give 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.320 us one more segment? I'd love to talk about the 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:45.880 Hall of Fame. 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:50.560 We'll let me let me unleash mys. 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:54.480 Yes, okay, well that'll be good. That is that's a 0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:54.880 good word. 0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:58.440 Bengals Out of the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen 0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:03.560 thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Welcome back Bengals Line on this 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:06.360 Monday night on the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.640 thirty Lights by cantlister Dave Lapplem. We'll call this a 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:11.440 bonus segment, yes with Jeff Hobson of Bengals dot Com 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:14.840 because we must probe your mind on the Pro Football 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.680 Hall of Fame and for those who don't know, what 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:21.000 is your involvement or role or how how do you 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.040 factor into the Hall of Fame in the voting prices. 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:27.720 I'm a I'm the Cincinnati voter, so and I have 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.760 been for ten years and so I'm a member of 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:35.800 that fifty member committee that cuts the you know that 1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:40.840 that votes on all the major categories. I'm also this year. 1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:42.840 I was also my first year, I was on the 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:49.000 Senior Committee, which their start. They rotate that now, right, 1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:52.560 So it's been an honor to do that. And it's 1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:56.920 a great thrill to you know, be a factor and 1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:02.040 you know, seeing who goes who goes in, and who doesn't, 1:01:02.160 --> 1:01:05.640 and it's uh take it with uh, you know, the 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:08.840 most important you know, besides working for the Bengals every day. 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:10.880 It's the most important thing I've done in my career. 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:17.280 And uh, you know, it's a it's interesting because serving 1:01:17.360 --> 1:01:18.800 on you know, you serve with you know, you serve 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:23.000 with different people on the committee, and every everybody's does 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:26.040 great research, you know, and you learn so much when 1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:28.560 you go in these things. And I think the Keith 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:31.320 thing is having the open mind, and uh, you know, 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:36.400 I think, uh, you know, it's uh obviously I think 1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:39.320 all you know, probably all Hall of Fames get criticized 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:41.720 if you're guys not in, you know. I mean, I know, 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:45.360 as a Red Sox fan, when's Louis Tiant going to 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:48.280 get in, right, you know? So but I'm it's I'm 1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:50.160 blessed to be able to do it. And I think, 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:53.200 I think, what's happened I think, you know, I think 1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:56.040 in the last decade, I think with the help of 1:01:56.240 --> 1:02:00.840 Jim Foster, guys like yourself, guys like lap I think 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:02.960 I've probably helped a little bit. 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:04.600 But to give, you know, to. 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:08.160 Show to the country that we, you know, profile raised. 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:11.120 I think the profile of the great Bengals players I 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:12.160 think has been raised. 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:14.400 And I think that's a good thing, whether they get 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:14.800 in or not. 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:18.080 I mean, I think, uh, I think what I think 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:20.360 what Elizabeth Blackburn has done here with the Ring of 1:02:20.480 --> 1:02:24.600 Honor has helped has helped raise that profile us and uh, 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:27.760 you know used you know, I think it's you know, 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.360 guys like Ken Anderson and Willie Anderson when they're up 1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:33.760 for the Hall Bengals Ring of Honor. You know that 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:37.080 means something, you know, right, yes, Isaac, I mean all 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:40.680 those guys who have Hall of Fame cases, uh you know, 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:42.560 and well and they all have Hall of Fame races. 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:45.040 I mean we're talking you know, a guy like Max Montoya, sure, 1:02:45.680 --> 1:02:49.640 you know, and it's uh, it's it's amazing. The great 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:53.640 Ron Borges told me, who has served on many senior committees, 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:57.320 Globe and I never really the Boston, Boston Globe, Boston 1:02:57.360 --> 1:03:00.440 hero and I and I never really realized any and 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:03.959 he covered the Raiders too out out in Oakland. 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:06.480 Covered in high school. Yeah, he came to my house 1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:09.240 in high school, did an interview. Wow. I was like, yeah, 1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:09.960 look at my mother. 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:10.720 You know who that is. 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:12.200 You know who that is. 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:14.320 That's what I tell him now. When I talked to 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:17.120 him on the phone, I said, you know what I says, unbelievable. 1:03:17.120 --> 1:03:18.240 I'm talking to Ron Bosch. 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:22.880 You know, you'd say, you know, pretty high boiled guy. 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:24.000 Stop it, Hobby. 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:28.160 But you know it's it's I think it's uh, you know, 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:31.280 I don't know it's uh. Ron Boys just would say 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:34.400 in that senior committee, they're a Hall of Famer. When 1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:37.160 you're making the moves of cutting guys, hall of Famers 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:39.800 are just falling on the floor, and everybody's worthy, everybody's 1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:40.520 worthy exactly. 1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:45.760 That senior committee includes the the the nine r Kenny 1:03:45.880 --> 1:03:48.840 Anderson is one of the nine, and the expectation is, 1:03:48.880 --> 1:03:53.200 at least, reading the Hall of Fame website, the announcement 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:56.840 could come, should come this week and we'll find out 1:03:56.840 --> 1:04:00.200 if Kenny advances to the next day. Is a final list, 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:02.120 I believe terminology. 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:04.160 The final five three. 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:08.400 Goes nine to three committee on the and they will 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:14.800 join those three will join seventeen others on the finals ballot. 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:20.880 There'll be three SoRs, one coach nominee, and one contributor, 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:25.640 and then there'll be fifteen modern era finals. 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:26.760 Including potentially Williams. 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:31.360 Not potentially he is he will he is a finalist 1:04:31.520 --> 1:04:36.360 automatically because he finished in the UH top seven last year, 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:40.680 which is a new which is a new voting procedure. 1:04:40.720 --> 1:04:43.520 To figure craft and Belichick will be the odds on 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:44.400 guys and then. 1:04:44.360 --> 1:04:46.320 Who knows, you know, who knows? I think it's just 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:51.919 it's you know, uh, like I said, three H three, 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:58.080 I believe it's three out of the uh three from 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:02.080 the UH from the coaching tributors, coaching contributors and seniors. 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:06.320 Three can come out of there. So it's uh, you know, 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.200 it's it's they made it tough for the last couple 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:10.760 of years to get in. I think I think that's 1:05:10.760 --> 1:05:12.520 what the Hall wanted to do. And that's who really 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:16.280 is is it's uh, the Hall of Fame and and. 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:19.520 The Board of Trustees. You know, we're really uh, you know, 1:05:19.680 --> 1:05:21.520 we we serve at their pleasure. 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:24.280 Now I've heard this in the past, and I don't 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:26.200 know where this is in the process or if you're 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:30.760 still involved with it, but for each candidate, does someone 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:34.000 act as a presenter in the room for their case? 1:05:34.280 --> 1:05:35.000 Does that happen? 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:38.320 There's a yeah, there's a presenter that still happens, and 1:05:38.520 --> 1:05:41.680 and and it's a five minute presentation. And there's debate, 1:05:42.600 --> 1:05:44.320 and there's and there's debate, and I, like I say, 1:05:44.400 --> 1:05:48.800 I think it's a all these guys take it so seriously. 1:05:49.440 --> 1:05:51.600 The men and women on the committees that I've been 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:55.560 on and it's a it's it's a very deliberative process 1:05:55.800 --> 1:06:01.200 and debates are amazing, and it's uh, you know, it's 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:04.080 uh as many ways to skin a cap. But I 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:05.800 think that's about as good as it I think that's 1:06:05.800 --> 1:06:06.880 about as good as it gets. 1:06:09.120 --> 1:06:09.360 I think. 1:06:09.440 --> 1:06:11.960 So, I mean, it's all these guys should be in, 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:14.200 you know what I mean, it's and but that's why 1:06:14.280 --> 1:06:16.400 it's a Hall of Fame, right, and you know, my 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:20.440 my thing is is and Paul Daners says, this will 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:24.440 probably be on my tombstone, which is is in the 1:06:24.520 --> 1:06:29.040 Hall of Fame. We have too many uh uh, very 1:06:29.080 --> 1:06:32.680 good players on great teams in there and not enough 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:36.960 great players Hall of Fame players on bad teams or 1:06:37.160 --> 1:06:39.960 or it's not even bad teams that didn't win a 1:06:40.000 --> 1:06:43.560 Super Bowl, right, And I understand it because these guys 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:46.480 are and I understand because I talked to a lot 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:50.840 of guys. We'll say, well, you know this guy was 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:53.760 he was on teams at one but like my agument 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:56.080 for Kenny is he was the reason they were there, 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:59.240 you know, a major the major reason they. 1:06:59.160 --> 1:06:59.960 Were there, no doubt. 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:01.840 So I mean, but obviously guys like guyas that and 1:07:02.120 --> 1:07:04.720 you know, I mean guys like I just Isaac and 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:08.720 Lamiro and Kenny Riley obviously were his teammates, but Kenny 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:11.800 was a quarterback sure, so uh, you know, but that's 1:07:11.880 --> 1:07:14.520 my thing is that's another reason I'm glad to see 1:07:14.560 --> 1:07:17.320 the profile raise, not only of the Bengals, but for 1:07:17.560 --> 1:07:21.880 you know, teams that are in small markets don't maybe 1:07:21.960 --> 1:07:24.080 don't have a string of Super Bowl champions. You know, 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:27.280 their players are just as good as you know, I mean, uh, 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:29.960 what's been out there. And I think Kenny Riley and 1:07:30.080 --> 1:07:34.240 the you know, I mean, you know, statistically, Kenny Riley 1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:36.520 should have been in five years after he retired. 1:07:36.720 --> 1:07:40.240 I just wish, like a lot of people do, I 1:07:40.400 --> 1:07:42.200 just wish we had won a super Bowl for him 1:07:42.920 --> 1:07:45.200 if he if he if Kenny Anderson had a super 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:47.560 Bowl on that resume, I think that would be the 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:48.840 cherry on top. 1:07:48.920 --> 1:07:49.080 You know. 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:51.479 I think I think he'd be you know, and maybe 1:07:51.480 --> 1:07:53.600 I'm over simplifying it, but I think I think a 1:07:54.120 --> 1:07:57.800 super Bowl champion. You know, Dan Foulson never won, and 1:07:57.880 --> 1:08:01.240 he got in. I mean, there's exceptions rerule, but you know, 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:04.960 he he was. He broke every record in every passing 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.840 category there is known demand with the Air Corriel. I 1:08:07.880 --> 1:08:10.960 mean it was different, a different deal. But I'm telling you, man, 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:15.200 Kenny Anderson, as good as there ever was is accurate. 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:17.760 I mean that was the thing with him. His accuracy 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:19.240 was stupid good. 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:20.360 You know. 1:08:20.400 --> 1:08:22.160 I remember him in the off season. 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:22.920 Uh. 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:25.400 He would say, all right, get thirty yards away from me. 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:27.120 We're gonna play a little catch. 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:27.320 You know. 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:29.960 All right now, now that I warm my arm up 1:08:29.960 --> 1:08:34.840 a little bit, I'm loose right naval, right shoulder, left knee. 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:39.000 It's like, what the hell unbelievable how he could control 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:41.040 a football and how accurate he was doing a football. 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:44.120 The only guy to win uh to uh, the only 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:46.759 guy to win two playoff games on two different planets 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:52.759 uh obviously Earth and then the AFC title game the Freezable. 1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:54.840 I don't know what planet that day. I guess it's hot, 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:59.320 right would that be? But uh, I know I know 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:02.040 one thing. It was damn cold Rome Death. 1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:06.120 You have been tremendous with your time. We have greatly 1:09:06.240 --> 1:09:10.200 overextended you, but the content you provided was tremendous, So 1:09:10.360 --> 1:09:10.640 thank you. 1:09:11.120 --> 1:09:12.920 Hope to do it again. Thank you very much for 1:09:13.040 --> 1:09:15.400 having me on. Let's not make it another down let's 1:09:15.439 --> 1:09:18.680 not make it another decade until we go face today. Hey, 1:09:18.720 --> 1:09:21.439 the Red Sox are the Red Sox rent opening opening day. 1:09:21.840 --> 1:09:26.760 Oh yeah, that's right. You know they're huge. Big thank you, sir, 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:31.519 Thank you, Thank you. Bengals Ring of Imember Dave Lapham, Yes, 1:09:31.600 --> 1:09:32.400 a pleasure. 1:09:32.760 --> 1:09:35.559 Take a time out of continue. It's Bengals N, Bengals 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:41.160 Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station heading 1:09:41.240 --> 1:09:43.280 down the stretch on our second hour of Bengals Line 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:46.000 and the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty lines. 1:09:46.040 --> 1:09:48.679 But calestter Dave Lapham very much enjoyed Jeff Hopson hanging 1:09:48.680 --> 1:09:51.160 out with us. You know, Jeff mentioned and you alluded 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:54.280 to it after all the travel adventures on on Wednesday, 1:09:54.960 --> 1:09:57.679 the Thanksgiving meal in the ballroom, and the players could 1:09:57.720 --> 1:09:59.519 have taken their meals gone to their rooms, but they 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:02.280 hung out together. And I heard you and Wayne box 1:10:02.360 --> 1:10:05.920 Miller on Friday talking about how Box looked in the 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:08.760 lunch cafeteria the other day and there was a group 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:11.640 of players from different position groups hanging out together, and 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:15.439 just the value of the cohesiveness of this team and 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:18.040 how it's probably helped them navigate a lot of adversity 1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:18.479 this season. 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:20.840 Yeah, I think you're right, no question about it. You know, 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:27.040 it's uh, pro sports or sports in general. It's it's 1:10:27.120 --> 1:10:29.439 conducive to that sort of thing. It's conducive to that 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:32.719 kind of bonding and those kind of friendships, a family 1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:35.840 atmosphere that you know will never go away, those bonds 1:10:35.880 --> 1:10:40.679 will never be broken. Uh and uh ten fifteen, twenty 1:10:40.800 --> 1:10:45.320 years when you're after finished planning, you remember that. Remember 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:46.160 that Thanksgiving? 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:49.080 We were like five hours? 1:10:49.760 --> 1:10:51.800 Yeah, what are we gonna do? Five hours? It's like 1:10:52.120 --> 1:10:54.759 we sat around, we talked about everything and anything and nothing, 1:10:54.840 --> 1:10:57.600 you know, nothing at all. And uh, and you know, 1:10:57.680 --> 1:11:00.360 I really got to know. I'm so so it was 1:11:00.360 --> 1:11:03.040 a pretty good guy man, you know, and wanted to 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:05.240 ended up wanting to spend more time with that guy. 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:08.320 And you know, he's got a wife and he's got kids, 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:11.760 and I've got wife and kids, and we all ended 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:14.960 up doing some things together, and our kids learned about 1:11:15.040 --> 1:11:17.599 Cincinnati together. They went to the Cincinnati zo they went 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:20.240 to the aquarium, They went to all these different places together, 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:20.479 you know. 1:11:20.600 --> 1:11:22.479 And I think you referred to it on Friday as 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:24.160 the cross pollination of your time. 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:27.559 Yeah, Yeah, it really and that that's exactly the word 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:31.280 that Paul Brown used when I mean back, Like in 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:35.160 nineteen seventy four rookie year, it was like, we are 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:38.720 we are gonna be a family, We are going to 1:11:38.760 --> 1:11:42.560 be a close football team. We are gonna have the 1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:45.800 other gentleman's back, the guy that you're playing next to, 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:47.800 You're gonna have his back, He's going to have your back. 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:51.439 And it was it was. It was a close knit group, 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:53.920 There's no doubt. And Paul Brown knew what he was doing. 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:56.080 He knew what he was talking about. Even Otto Graham 1:11:56.080 --> 1:11:58.920 and the great, the great players with the Cleveland Browns. 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:03.559 He said, those guys were family and they were at 1:12:04.000 --> 1:12:08.200 their kids in great kids' weddings, you know, and unfortunately 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:12.400 in some cases funerals, And you know, it's it's a 1:12:12.520 --> 1:12:14.479 cycle of life, is what it is, no question. 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:17.200 Set Bengals on on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:24.280 fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. All right, final segment of 1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:26.880 this hour, and let's use it as a preview what's 1:12:26.920 --> 1:12:29.439 coming up in our next hour. You're gonna hear. Zach 1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:31.519 Taylor met with the media today coming off the buy 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:34.360 with thoughts on Thursday Night, reflecting back on the win 1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:36.000 over the Ravens and a look ahead. 1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:37.639 To the Buffalo Bills this weekend. 1:12:37.720 --> 1:12:40.080 You'll hear Sean McDermott, head coach of the Bills, his 1:12:40.240 --> 1:12:43.320 opening thoughts on their impressive win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. 1:12:43.560 --> 1:12:46.320 Dan Horde has his weekly Fun Facts with Orrin Burke's 1:12:46.320 --> 1:12:49.280 the veteran Bengals linebacker. We've got game balls to give 1:12:49.320 --> 1:12:52.760 away and special treat We're gonna listen in on the 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.400 behind the Stripes segment this week Bengals dot Com The 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:58.679 Bengals produced with Dan and Lapp talking about their best 1:12:58.880 --> 1:13:01.360 calls to get the other through the years. You'll hear 1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:03.960 that as well. That may include a little coffin nails 1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:06.519 in a bam bam bam as we continue. It's a 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:09.639 Bengals line of the Bengals Radio Network at ESPN fifteen 1:13:09.760 --> 1:13:12.360 thirty Cincinnati Sports station from Pekstein. 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:17.840 This is Bengals line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay Corps. 1:13:18.200 --> 1:13:20.879 Pay Corp is proud to be the official hr software 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:24.840 provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. Ketteringel Best Care for the 1:13:25.000 --> 1:13:29.719 Best Fans. Kettering El Official healthcare provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 1:13:30.000 --> 1:13:33.920 This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the best 1:13:34.080 --> 1:13:35.080 Bengals coverage. 1:13:35.360 --> 1:13:36.759 Hey, let's keep things rolling. 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:39.960 We are cruising along on this Monday night picking up 1:13:39.960 --> 1:13:42.120 the pieces from a thirty two to fourteen win over 1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:44.519 those Baltimore Ravens. We're going to get into those Buffalo 1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:48.280 Bills in this hour. I'm Lliance McAllister. He is Dave Lapham. 1:13:48.560 --> 1:13:51.040 Hey, Bengals fans on Fridays, make sure to listen to 1:13:51.120 --> 1:13:54.360 myself and Dan Horde from Bengals pep Rally presented by 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:56.800 Just Bear Chicken on the air from three to six 1:13:56.880 --> 1:13:59.120 pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:02.040 Zach Taylor with the media earlier today. Let's get the 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:05.560 thoughts from the coach upon reflecting on Thursday night, the 1:14:05.760 --> 1:14:08.320 mini bye and now looking ahead to the Buffalo Bills. 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:10.479 Here's Bengals head coach Zach Taylor. 1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:16.479 He was good, He's doing great. 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.240 He's so in protocol so him and Tage will keep 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:21.479 working through that ply in the week, so we'll see 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:21.880 where it is. 1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:24.559 Up Trey in the next This week. 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:36.439 This week, Samar's yeah, always on my ring that I 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:38.040 was like, I'm mathlong here. 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:40.360 His final game. 1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:42.439 I think he's part of this. How's he been progressing? 1:14:42.960 --> 1:14:44.040 We'll see what end up next week? 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:45.160 Is this? 1:14:45.280 --> 1:14:46.960 I think this will be traced fourth game. 1:14:47.120 --> 1:14:47.679 Is there any. 1:14:47.680 --> 1:14:49.960 Consideration to put him on I r no, We'll just 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:50.920 keep taking a week to week. 1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:56.760 He's still doing all the normal meetings everything behind the scenes. 1:14:56.680 --> 1:14:59.240 That mostly rehab, so with the trainers. 1:15:02.560 --> 1:15:04.040 You had just been getting him back at all of 1:15:04.080 --> 1:15:04.439 this season. 1:15:04.520 --> 1:15:05.800 Yeah, we'll just keep taking a week to week. 1:15:10.880 --> 1:15:12.920 What was the South scout like over the by? What 1:15:13.040 --> 1:15:14.360 was the what did over the weekend? 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:16.200 I guess what did you guys want to accomplish as 1:15:16.240 --> 1:15:17.559 y'all get ready for the next game. 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:19.439 Just get ahead for Buffalo really, I mean, got a 1:15:19.520 --> 1:15:22.080 chance for review our game. Just make sure we got 1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:23.880 them obviously in two weeks, so you want to make 1:15:23.880 --> 1:15:25.679 sure you put that to bed the right way because 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:28.439 it's a quick turnaround for them, and then just you know, 1:15:28.560 --> 1:15:31.040 steal an extra time for Buffaloe, which I thought we did. 1:15:31.680 --> 1:15:33.599 It's good you got a chance to watching football yesterday 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:34.360 while you're working. 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:35.360 And it's good. 1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:37.720 How did Joe come through the weekend. 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:42.080 Seemingly fine? I'm sure there's some soreness there that you know. 1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:44.960 I'm sure you guys can ask him, but to my iPhone. 1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:46.599 One day. 1:15:49.040 --> 1:15:50.880 At the start of the season, Dalton Riisner was playing 1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:53.240 to the point where you ended up going with Jalen Rivers. 1:15:53.280 --> 1:15:55.600 But it felt like Sinstallton's come back. He's you know, 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:57.920 played even better than he has earlier in the year. 1:15:58.200 --> 1:15:59.800 What have you seen from him the last couple of weeks. 1:16:00.360 --> 1:16:02.080 You know, when we got him, he hadn't done anything, 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:03.760 you know, for six months, so I think that was 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:06.120 a little bit to be expected. But I've liked how 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:07.960 he's played, the energy's played with. I think we've got 1:16:08.000 --> 1:16:10.000 a good mix of guys in there, you know, even 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:12.519 guys that are you know, been injured and have been backups, 1:16:12.560 --> 1:16:15.040 and so I feel really good about our starters or 1:16:15.080 --> 1:16:17.040 depth and and just where we're at at this point 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:17.640 the season out on. 1:16:17.680 --> 1:16:20.120 Line, What have you seen from Fairchild twelve games through? 1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:22.800 Yeah, just continues to progress and get better and sees 1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:25.160 new looks and does a good job taking the coaching 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:28.240 from Scott and Mike and Ted and Orlando and those 1:16:28.280 --> 1:16:30.000 around him, and just continues to progress. 1:16:30.120 --> 1:16:32.320 And so that's been really pleasant to see. 1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:35.080 There's an old adage when you get around this time 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:37.200 of the year where people say rookies aren't rookies anymore. 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:39.280 Win in your mind as a guy no longer a. 1:16:39.360 --> 1:16:42.400 Rook Yeah, I think, you know, at the midpoint of 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:44.280 the year, you really want them to progress through that 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:46.519 There's still going to be things that they're learning. It's 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:49.160 a it's a fun thing to say, but you know, 1:16:49.280 --> 1:16:51.439 you can't replicate experience, and so they got to continue 1:16:51.439 --> 1:16:54.040 to get that experience. And especially for a lot of guys, 1:16:54.360 --> 1:16:56.760 maybe that didn't start right away once the season went, 1:16:56.840 --> 1:16:58.720 you know, and their playing time has increased as has gone. 1:16:59.640 --> 1:17:01.519 So I think everybody's a little differently. Depends on the 1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:04.040 position you're playing, depends on the experience you're gaining. But 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:06.360 I really like how all of our rookies are progressing. 1:17:06.520 --> 1:17:08.280 I think that they're all doing a nice job of 1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:11.679 learning and not making repeat mistakes and have an ownership 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:14.800 their position and adding value to our team. 1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:17.920 Specifically in xact with Barrett Carter, what have you liked 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:20.959 about the way he's embrace that moles everything that comes. 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:22.639 With Yeah, his command with the position, you know, it's 1:17:22.640 --> 1:17:25.800 a vocal position to have the green dot and be 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:28.479 able to communicate like he has and just continue to progress, 1:17:29.080 --> 1:17:30.599 you know, I mean I can't think of how many 1:17:30.600 --> 1:17:36.080 games he started now, you know, six maybe six games, 1:17:36.120 --> 1:17:39.240 and so just continue and learn, and that's where he's going. 1:17:40.600 --> 1:17:43.840 Of course, just going back to Joe's touchdown pass. 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:49.439 And yeah, just thoughts on that and also just as kind. 1:17:49.320 --> 1:17:53.560 Of astical those two guys seem to have you know, 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:54.760 since the minute. 1:17:55.200 --> 1:18:00.400 You know, yeah, I think it was, you know, that 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:03.000 was That's a play we we've had him for for 1:18:03.120 --> 1:18:07.840 a while now, and Joe really did a good job 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:09.880 buying some time outside the pocket. Because it's a longer 1:18:09.960 --> 1:18:12.320 developing play. It can it can unfold two ways. You 1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:14.840 can either win right out of the break because they've 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:16.120 had poor eyes in the backfield. 1:18:17.320 --> 1:18:18.639 Hamilton did not have poor eyes. 1:18:18.680 --> 1:18:19.960 You know, he did a good job stating and face 1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:22.920 and Joe really put it the only spot that Tanner 1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:25.519 could have caught that ball, and Tanner could have only 1:18:25.560 --> 1:18:28.400 caught that ball one handed base on where Hamilton was at, 1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:31.400 and it was really good coverage and just outstanding throw, 1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:34.240 outstanding catch, huge for a momentum at that point. 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:35.519 So it was a really big point in that game. 1:18:36.560 --> 1:18:43.680 Was there's no question, Yeah, I mean it's it's he's 1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:46.559 not standing player, you know, he's I wouldn't even call 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:49.560 him the safety really, he's he plays linebacker and d 1:18:49.760 --> 1:18:52.280 N and covers people and whatever you want to That's 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:54.840 a true Swiss arm knife to me. Uh So, again, 1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.120 it was a great play versus a great player and 1:18:57.280 --> 1:18:58.599 something we really needed at that point. 1:19:00.000 --> 1:19:02.720 As of me defensively in recent weeks, how much of 1:19:02.800 --> 1:19:04.960 it do you think kind of just stems directly back 1:19:05.000 --> 1:19:07.400 to just seeing more pressure from some of your young 1:19:07.800 --> 1:19:09.559 defensive linemen at this point. 1:19:09.680 --> 1:19:11.800 Is that kind of the biggest difference that you think 1:19:11.840 --> 1:19:12.160 you've seen. 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:15.920 I think it helps everybody's just starting to really settle 1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:18.000 into their position as they get more playing time and 1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:21.280 more confidence in the scheme and playing next to guys, 1:19:21.400 --> 1:19:24.400 and you just see all eleven guys all at once 1:19:24.560 --> 1:19:26.560 really just step into it and have great ownership and 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.200 what we're asking to do, and confidence to go in 1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:31.000 there and make plays, confidence to go win some one 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:33.360 on ones up front and apply pressure. And once you 1:19:33.439 --> 1:19:35.720 start doing that a couple of times, sorry, I'm going 1:19:35.800 --> 1:19:38.920 to continue to do this, and and then the takeaways 1:19:38.920 --> 1:19:41.320 start coming too. So again it's it's fun to watch 1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:43.400 those guys have fun, play with confidence. 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:44.920 That's exciting for me. 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:48.559 To see a guy like Miles chasing down Derek Henry 1:19:48.640 --> 1:19:49.719 forty yards down the field. 1:19:49.760 --> 1:19:51.680 Tell you about where he's at his passion for the game. 1:19:51.720 --> 1:19:53.639 I mean, he's made of the right stuff, and he's 1:19:53.680 --> 1:19:55.880 continued to work every day. He's been in here all season, 1:19:56.000 --> 1:19:59.920 and you know, it's it's I'm really excited for Miles 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:01.960 to see all that hard work start to pay off 1:20:02.040 --> 1:20:05.000 and the consistency come and it's been a really good 1:20:05.240 --> 1:20:07.240 He's and easy got to pull for, and so it's 1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:09.240 it's exciting to see him make some plays like that. Ever, 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:11.800 plays too are huge. You know, that's even though it's 1:20:11.840 --> 1:20:14.160 way down the field. It's our team sees that in 1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:16.559 the film. They see all that stuff, guys really putting 1:20:16.600 --> 1:20:19.599 all out there, and he did that. Jordan Battle had 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:21.160 the one on the goal line. So those are those 1:20:21.200 --> 1:20:23.040 are critical plays for our guess that's. 1:20:23.160 --> 1:20:25.080 You guys feature. I mean we get into them me 1:20:25.160 --> 1:20:26.639 to do, get into meetings and feature. 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:27.760 It depends on the week. 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:29.559 Yeah, it depends on the week, depends on the tone 1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:32.200 of the meeting. Plenty of times we highlight stuff like 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:36.160 that with how k out of the AFC North is 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:36.720 this year. 1:20:37.640 --> 1:20:39.920 How do you make sure the guys are just doing 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:42.400 it on a week two week basis, not looking outside. 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:44.080 Although I really feel like I've had to worry about that. 1:20:44.320 --> 1:20:46.280 You know, we we have our messaging each week that 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:49.519 we follow and I've never felt the need to make 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:51.240 sure that we're just focused on the week. I think 1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:52.760 those guys have done a really good job of doing that, 1:20:53.400 --> 1:20:55.519 and you know that's that's the most critical point. It's 1:20:55.560 --> 1:20:57.920 just got to play Buffalo, need to win the game 1:20:58.320 --> 1:20:59.880 and worry about the rest after that. 1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:01.560 Giving as a result on Thursday and then kind of 1:21:01.560 --> 1:21:03.200 how things have played out in the North, especially over 1:21:03.240 --> 1:21:03.559 the weekend. 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.439 Does it still feel like everything's in front of you 1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:06.240 as you go into this one. 1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:09.439 Yeah, it's exciting to know there's still opportunity there, but again, 1:21:09.560 --> 1:21:10.880 you just have to take a week to week. Us 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:12.720 being Baltimore has nothing to do with how we're going 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:16.840 to play against Buffalo. So our guys understand that still 1:21:16.880 --> 1:21:19.040 a day here with the bonus day and got to 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:21.040 have a great week and it's gonna be tough environment 1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:21.680 to go on the road there. 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:22.960 It's always a tough place to play. 1:21:23.800 --> 1:21:25.920 It's gonna be loud, it's gonna be cold, probably gonna 1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:28.200 be windy, and so our guys as gotta be ready 1:21:28.200 --> 1:21:28.720 to embrace all that. 1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:31.559 How much do you subscribe to the theory that, especially 1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:34.880 come decembery to be able to at some point be 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:39.000 able to run the ball with authority in the climent weather. 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:41.920 We're throwing the ball out in December two. It's been 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:42.760 successful for us. 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:44.760 So we're just gonna keep playing our style and and 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.360 sometimes we played plenty of games where we've leaned on 1:21:47.400 --> 1:21:48.880 the run, plenty of games where we've leaned in the 1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:52.720 past game. So again it's it's what's your style play, 1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:54.960 what's your identity as a team, how's the game going. 1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:58.519 There's a lot of things that factor into how the 1:21:58.760 --> 1:22:01.120 game is going to play out. But you're not gonna 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:02.439 pin me down and say we're gonna run the ball 1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:06.160 sixty times in a game just because it's simmer outside. 1:22:08.439 --> 1:22:09.720 We're going to run the ball and you have to 1:22:09.760 --> 1:22:14.000 do well, yeah, that's a unique circumstance. We're gonna do 1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:15.240 whatever it takes to win the game, you know. And 1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:18.320 I feel like we've always done that, and there's been 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:20.680 games certainly I can think of in December where we've 1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:22.760 gone in there and how to do a great job 1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:25.519 establishing the run and defenses played great, so you can 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:28.320 stick with it throughout the game, and you know, we'll 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:29.680 see the type of game this turns out to be. 1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:35.639 Play you guys with authority. 1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:37.120 I guess what I'm kind of thinking about. 1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:40.519 Yeah, you know that that game it allowed us, just 1:22:40.560 --> 1:22:42.559 the way that the game played out, we were allowed 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:44.519 to stick with that kind of stuff and our defense 1:22:44.560 --> 1:22:47.160 that played really well that day, and you know, so 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:49.439 again we just will do whatever it takes to win. 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:52.080 What what did you ask Joe this? 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:53.680 So I'd be a better question for him. 1:22:53.760 --> 1:22:56.960 But with the weather, when you're talking about the. 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.360 Weather being kind of up and there right now, and 1:22:59.760 --> 1:23:03.759 with plate in his shoe, is there any conversations about 1:23:03.920 --> 1:23:05.120 maybe doing something different? 1:23:05.240 --> 1:23:06.840 Like does that create any issues? 1:23:06.960 --> 1:23:07.240 Maybe? 1:23:11.800 --> 1:23:14.000 What did you learn that day about snow games? You 1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:14.960 don't get them too often? 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:20.400 You know, you'd have to ask Joe. I think, uh, 1:23:21.000 --> 1:23:23.320 traction on the ball, you know, I I don't. I 1:23:23.560 --> 1:23:28.880 haven't thrown much in snow games. You know, rain is 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:32.920 often the biggest issue. I'd say wind is a big issue. 1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:36.240 Snow would come in third behind that kind of stuff. 1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:38.160 So I think he could probably answer that question better 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:40.000 having done it a lot more recently than anybody else. 1:23:41.520 --> 1:23:45.240 But again, I thought that day, you know, I thought 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:47.240 he threw the ball pretty well, and it's you know, 1:23:47.360 --> 1:23:50.519 it's every sance. Just the wind can always factor into 1:23:50.520 --> 1:23:51.840 that a little bit, depending on how much that is. 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:53.879 We went back and look at how he played on Thursday, 1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:55.479 and I can't review the tape. What was the biggest 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:56.240 thing that jumped out. 1:23:56.120 --> 1:23:59.000 Of you, Well, just just how quickly he got into 1:23:59.000 --> 1:24:01.519 a rhythm. I think he'd sit here and say I 1:24:01.760 --> 1:24:04.120 missed this or missed that. I could feel the rhythm 1:24:04.160 --> 1:24:05.760 he got into and the and the confidence that he 1:24:05.800 --> 1:24:08.040 had when he was out there. So that's what we 1:24:08.080 --> 1:24:10.400 could feel as a team, you know, that that he 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:13.799 was he was really back to mid season form for himself, 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:17.320 even though I again I don't know how he's gonna 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:20.040 answer that, but for us certainly watching him, he felt 1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:23.519 that and and just I think has had a lot 1:24:23.520 --> 1:24:24.600 of confidence watching him out there. 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:27.160 When you have your franchise quarterback that it's the team 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:30.000 is invested in, committed to any back in the locker 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:33.040 room and the rally guys does that phrase everybody and 1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:35.840 just subconsciously knowing that that's the guy who's kind of 1:24:35.960 --> 1:24:38.080 everything's built around and he's in the building. 1:24:37.800 --> 1:24:38.320 And all of that. 1:24:38.680 --> 1:24:39.479 What does that do for everybody? 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:41.240 He's in there, and he's one of the greatest players 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:42.719 in the world, you know, And so I think anytime 1:24:42.720 --> 1:24:44.200 you get a player like that back on the field, 1:24:45.000 --> 1:24:48.320 absolutely it whether it's subconsciously or consciously, I mean, it's 1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:51.479 it's you're excited to watch that, and you're excited to 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:54.000 rally behind that and and see where he can take you. 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:57.920 It looked like Flacco was very interactive on the sideline 1:24:58.000 --> 1:24:59.479 against Baltimore Craig. 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:02.679 Throw up for any and note just how much input 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:05.600 he was giving after a series or is that just 1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:07.920 what you expect with who Joe Flacco is. 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:10.960 Yeah, they, to my I have a really good relationship. 1:25:11.240 --> 1:25:14.400 So whatever they're talking about is all good. There's got 1:25:14.439 --> 1:25:17.840 to see it the same way as coaches do. I 1:25:18.760 --> 1:25:20.640 I'm not always back there, you know. I've kind of 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:22.439 picked my spots to go back there between series, so 1:25:22.840 --> 1:25:24.360 I don't see it all or recap it all, but 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:27.040 it is good to have as many I mean, we 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:29.840 always travel our practice squad quarterback over the years, we 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:32.759 want as many quarterbacks over there as possible, and somebody 1:25:32.880 --> 1:25:34.680 may see something that somebody else doesn't see. So I 1:25:34.720 --> 1:25:36.280 always think that's a good dialogue to have as many 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:38.800 guys over there as possible, especially at the high level 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:40.360 thinkers that we've gotten that room. 1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:43.000 Zach Taylor meeting with the media earlier today. 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:43.680 Hang tight. 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:45.280 More to get to in this hour. We'll talk some 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:47.760 Buffalo Bills. You hear what Sean McDermott had to say 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:49.880 is opening thoughts of their win over the Buffalo Bills 1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:52.599 yesterday and more as we cruise through our third hour 1:25:52.680 --> 1:25:55.000 tonight of Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and 1:25:55.479 --> 1:26:02.120 ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's keep moving along 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.400 on this Monday Night Bengals Lone oft the Bengals Radio 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:06.760 Network at the ESBN fifteen thirty. We've talked about the 1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:09.439 Ravens win. Let's look go ahead of those Buffalo Bills. Now, 1:26:10.040 --> 1:26:14.519 Bills beat the Steelers yesterday in Buffalo twenty six to seven. 1:26:14.880 --> 1:26:17.080 The final the Bills went on the road rather yesterday 1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:18.080 twenty six to seven. 1:26:18.439 --> 1:26:19.120 Dave I got a. 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:22.479 Couple of numbers that point to the clear and outright domination. 1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:23.320 The Bills showed yesterday. 1:26:23.600 --> 1:26:27.679 They controlled the clock for forty nearly forty two minutes, 1:26:27.760 --> 1:26:31.360 forty two to eighteen. They ran seventy four plays to 1:26:31.520 --> 1:26:35.439 forty three plays. They outgained the Steelers. This is incredible, 1:26:35.479 --> 1:26:39.360 three twenty two to one sixty six, and they held 1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:43.880 the Steelers to ten first downs the entire football game. 1:26:43.960 --> 1:26:50.040 Holy cow, it's unbelievable that that is a total butt whipping. 1:26:50.520 --> 1:26:55.680 That is domination. I don't think the Pittsburgh Steelers have 1:26:55.920 --> 1:26:59.880 lost a game at home like that in that man 1:27:00.160 --> 1:27:04.320 or for a long long time. I mean, I know 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:07.360 I've met members of the Rooney family. I know how 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:12.520 prideful they are, and they are pissed right now. There's 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:17.280 no way they're not. And Aaron Rodgers, he looked his face. 1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:20.519 He looked just like bewildered and be fuddled. He looked 1:27:20.560 --> 1:27:22.559 like what just happened? 1:27:22.560 --> 1:27:25.120 He had ten completions state he went ten for twenty 1:27:25.240 --> 1:27:27.160 one for one hundred and seventeen yards. 1:27:27.479 --> 1:27:28.880 Unbelievable, it really is. 1:27:29.640 --> 1:27:31.760 And how often does this happen to the Steelers. The 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:36.559 Bills ran the ball fifty one times for two hundred 1:27:36.600 --> 1:27:38.120 and forty nine yards. 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:42.800 It's crazy. I mean, say, let's round it. You know, 1:27:43.000 --> 1:27:46.120 he carries for two hundred and fifty yards a pop 1:27:47.240 --> 1:27:53.280 on fifty attempts. That that's domination. That is that's winning 1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:55.960 the line of scrimmage. That's owning the line of scrimmage. 1:27:56.040 --> 1:28:00.400 It's just not letting you do any thing that you 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:02.439 want to do and doing everything we want to do 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:03.639 free and easy. 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:03.880 Man. 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:07.680 James Cook ran thirty two of them for one four 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:11.040 and Dave. The Bills were without two of their starting tackles, 1:28:11.479 --> 1:28:14.880 Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown both were out. They plugged 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:18.240 in two others, Ryan Van Denmark and Alec Anderson, and 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:21.719 they do all that with to replacement offensive lineman. 1:28:21.760 --> 1:28:24.960 It's true, that's that's the other thing. You know, Dawkins played, 1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:28.160 somebody got nicked up again, had to had to leave 1:28:28.240 --> 1:28:31.439 the football game. But man, you talk about you look 1:28:31.520 --> 1:28:33.880 for depth. That's that's what you're trying to build on 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:37.439 your on your roster, and particularly up front the offensive 1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:40.160 and defensive line. You know, you look for depth, and 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:43.160 you have guys that have to play multiple positions because 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:45.759 you're not going to carry you know, ten offensive linemen 1:28:46.040 --> 1:28:48.479 on the active roster. You know, every week, the numbers 1:28:48.560 --> 1:28:52.080 dictate that that's not necessarily feasible week in and week out. 1:28:52.160 --> 1:28:55.320 So uh, you know, for them to for them to 1:28:55.360 --> 1:28:58.200 be able to to plug and play like they did, 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.040 it's a it's a testament to how those guys work, 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:05.080 how they were ready to play mentally in physically understanding 1:29:05.560 --> 1:29:09.120 every assignment that they needed to he needed to understand 1:29:09.439 --> 1:29:12.200 every nuance of what they needed to do within that assignment. 1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:13.120 It was. 1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:15.800 It was just a heck of a heck of an 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:18.040 effort by the Buffalo Bills as an organization. 1:29:18.280 --> 1:29:21.880 Josh Allen throws just twenty three times. Yesterday he goes 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:25.200 fifteen of twenty three. He had another rushing touchdown Dave. 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:28.160 He now has the most rushing touchdowns by any quarterback 1:29:28.200 --> 1:29:31.679 in NFL history, passing Cam Newton. He's got seventy six 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:37.040 rushing touchdown this season. Josh Allen has eleven rushing touchdown. 1:29:37.120 --> 1:29:38.360 That's sick. It is. 1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:40.320 That's just like you look at and say, well, that's 1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:43.640 not right. There's no way the quarterback touchdown. 1:29:43.360 --> 1:29:47.719 That is really amazing. And for him, you think about 1:29:47.760 --> 1:29:51.880 all the great quarterbacks that were dual threat quarterbacks run 1:29:51.920 --> 1:29:55.040 the football and throw it, and he's number one all 1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:58.040 time in rushing for touchdowns. I mean, the guy that 1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:00.519 I used to watch, you know, growing up, ran target 1:30:00.600 --> 1:30:02.160 him and he run around like a benchie, you know, 1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:05.920 And I felt like he scored touchdowns every single football 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:08.880 game he played in. But for Josh Allen, for you 1:30:09.080 --> 1:30:11.040 to at the end of your career to be able 1:30:11.080 --> 1:30:13.600 to reflect back and say, I'm number one in the 1:30:13.680 --> 1:30:16.160 National Football League all time in the history of the NFL, 1:30:16.520 --> 1:30:18.840 all the years the NFL have been around, I'm the 1:30:18.960 --> 1:30:22.200 one guy that has rushed for the most touchdowns in 1:30:22.280 --> 1:30:25.439 my position group, the quarterback position. That's something to be 1:30:25.520 --> 1:30:25.840 proud of. 1:30:26.000 --> 1:30:27.720 I got a stat for you. I want one quick 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:30.599 stat that we're gonna hear from Sean McDermott. In one 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:34.080 hundred and twenty three games, Yeah, Josh Allen has seventy 1:30:34.120 --> 1:30:36.880 six rushing touchdowns for the Bills. That's seventy six rushing 1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:39.839 touchdowns one hundred and twenty three games. Well, Jay Simpson 1:30:40.320 --> 1:30:43.320 had fifty seven rushing touchdowns as a Bill in one 1:30:43.400 --> 1:30:47.519 hundred and twelve games. Josh Allen's twenty one more rushing 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:50.880 touchdowns than the Juice did in eleven more games. But 1:30:50.960 --> 1:30:53.759 still that's some context that makes it even more amazing 1:30:53.800 --> 1:30:55.120 to what Josh Allens it really is. 1:30:55.200 --> 1:30:57.240 I'm trying to think of which broadcaster was, that, the 1:30:57.320 --> 1:31:00.759 network was, that the game itself was at the pregame 1:31:00.880 --> 1:31:04.479 post game studio, somebody said that now Josh Allen is 1:31:04.479 --> 1:31:07.719 the greatest player in Buffalo Bill's history, the greatest player 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:11.639 ever in Buffalo Bill's history. Of course, the rushing touchdowns 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:16.200 was the big reason why. At the quarterback position. But man, 1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:19.920 I tell you, I don't know. I'd have a hard 1:31:19.960 --> 1:31:24.160 time putting anybody ahead a rental James. Oh, Yes, James. 1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:26.960 Simpson twenty six to seven was the final yesterday. Here 1:31:27.080 --> 1:31:30.080 a couple of minutes of the opening thoughts from Sean McDermott, 1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:31.280 Bills coach after the win. 1:31:31.800 --> 1:31:35.200 Good win, tough place to play, well coached football team, 1:31:35.200 --> 1:31:37.559 a out of respect for this organization or coaching staff 1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:43.120 or players. Hard fought win and a team win hard 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:45.320 to do, especially late in the year on the road. 1:31:46.400 --> 1:31:48.200 Or guys, they showed up today. 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:48.840 They stood up. 1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:51.559 They knew this would be a challenge and they rose 1:31:51.600 --> 1:31:55.599 to the occasion. I'll start with the defense. The big 1:31:55.680 --> 1:31:58.280 takeaway after half was huge takeaway and score than the 1:31:58.880 --> 1:32:02.240 ensuing drive get another takeaway CB. I believe it was 1:32:02.320 --> 1:32:06.200 Joey on the Joey on the sack level, but even 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:08.559 bigger than that was stopping the run. Our defense came out. 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:11.559 They did a great job, Bobby and the defensive staff 1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:14.840 all week long coaching it up, getting our fits right. 1:32:15.200 --> 1:32:19.200 Fourth down stop is obviously big for us offensively once 1:32:19.240 --> 1:32:21.599 we stopped starting, you know, once we stopped beating ourselves 1:32:21.680 --> 1:32:23.720 in the first half of penalties and taking and turn 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:26.400 the ball over, played more of a complimentary game, and 1:32:27.880 --> 1:32:30.799 you know, one first down, the rushing offense was incredible, 1:32:31.240 --> 1:32:34.840 especially against that defense, well coached team, like I've said before, 1:32:35.600 --> 1:32:38.599 tough front to run it against, and we were able 1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:41.200 to stand some positive third down situations where we were 1:32:41.720 --> 1:32:45.720 not in third or long. Two hundred and forty plus 1:32:45.840 --> 1:32:50.639 yards rushing and then key completions with Josh sometimes moving 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:52.280 around a little bit in the pocket in that four 1:32:52.320 --> 1:32:55.280 minute drive was really like an eight minute drive I 1:32:55.360 --> 1:32:57.599 think it was, but a big time drive right there 1:32:57.640 --> 1:32:59.679 for us, and then capping it off with a field 1:32:59.680 --> 1:33:00.200 goal to it. 1:33:00.360 --> 1:33:02.639 So all in all, great effort. 1:33:03.040 --> 1:33:05.040 Certainly things we can work on but good to come 1:33:05.120 --> 1:33:07.160 on the road and show our toughness. 1:33:07.479 --> 1:33:10.960 Don your defense really since the second half of Houston has. 1:33:10.960 --> 1:33:12.679 Kind of taken it up to a different level. 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:15.519 What why, Ald is what has changed you think in 1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:16.760 the defensive performance? 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:20.160 No, maybe more understanding guys just you know, kind of 1:33:20.280 --> 1:33:23.400 just flying around playing relentless style football on They work 1:33:23.439 --> 1:33:25.160 hard during the week and take a lot of pride 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:27.800 in their work. So I couldn't be happier with the 1:33:27.920 --> 1:33:28.679 way they played tonight. 1:33:30.120 --> 1:33:30.400 Coach. 1:33:30.640 --> 1:33:32.519 I know the defense kind of sparred things, but the 1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:33.920 two takeaways they're back to back. 1:33:34.000 --> 1:33:34.160 Though. 1:33:34.160 --> 1:33:37.240 When Josh got hit on the slide and there was 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:40.519 no flag, obviously his teammates came to his defense, but 1:33:41.320 --> 1:33:42.600 I don't know, all of a sudden, it looked like 1:33:42.680 --> 1:33:44.599 the mojo got kicked into year on offense. 1:33:44.640 --> 1:33:46.760 Did you send some of that juice that came from 1:33:46.800 --> 1:33:47.200 that play? 1:33:47.720 --> 1:33:49.560 I would hope so, right, I would hope so like 1:33:49.640 --> 1:33:52.400 you would, I expect you to be out there right 1:33:52.439 --> 1:33:56.200 with them, Chris. You know, so you hit it like 1:33:56.280 --> 1:33:58.280 down our quarterback, Yeah, the sideline is gonna rop. The 1:33:58.280 --> 1:34:01.439 team's gonna go to back back quarterback of what any player. 1:34:01.240 --> 1:34:02.599 So that's what I expected to see. 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:06.160 That's what they did, and you know it was what 1:34:06.280 --> 1:34:06.519 it was. 1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:08.880 So but you mentioned it during your opening statement. I 1:34:08.920 --> 1:34:09.599 came in a little later. 1:34:09.600 --> 1:34:13.560 I apologize. But Anderson and Vandermark stepping in for some 1:34:13.680 --> 1:34:16.000 video you at the end of the game there when 1:34:16.000 --> 1:34:17.680 they're coming into the locker room, Alan, I think it 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:21.720 picks you even up, pretty emotional. But for those guys 1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:23.519 to step in, Josh, not to be sacked, to. 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:24.960 Rush for two hundred and fifty yards. 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:26.680 Yeah, was it say about the job they did? 1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:29.080 Well, those guys knew, they knew the challenge that was 1:34:29.120 --> 1:34:32.759 in front of them. Their teammates supported them. They didn't blink, 1:34:32.840 --> 1:34:34.400 They really didn't. I thought it was a great move 1:34:34.439 --> 1:34:36.600 by the coaches in terms of how they had it 1:34:36.720 --> 1:34:39.920 set up Coach Coromer, Coach Gunn and Joe obviously, and 1:34:41.360 --> 1:34:43.800 you know, those guys did not They did not bad 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:44.439 any at all. 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:46.519 And I love that. 1:34:46.720 --> 1:34:50.519 That's that's who this team is. Guys, go down, guys, 1:34:50.560 --> 1:34:53.000 step in, do a phenomenal job, and just again the 1:34:53.120 --> 1:34:55.759 toughness of our football team on display. 1:34:56.040 --> 1:34:58.920 Sean McDermott after the game yesterday twenty six to seven, 1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:02.040 the final Bills win in Pittsburgh. We'll take a time 1:35:02.080 --> 1:35:04.360 out of continue. We've got fun facts from day and 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:06.240 hoard with or in Burt's this week to get to 1:35:06.720 --> 1:35:09.160 plus it's been a while, but man, you better believe 1:35:09.160 --> 1:35:11.040 we're gonna play him to end the show. The awarding 1:35:11.120 --> 1:35:13.680 of the game balls, all of that to get to 1:35:13.880 --> 1:35:16.280 as we cruised through a third and final hour. Tonight, 1:35:16.320 --> 1:35:18.880 it's Bengals on and the Bengals Radio Network and seven 1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:27.040 hundred or ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports station. Let's 1:35:27.080 --> 1:35:29.360 keep moving right along on this Monday night of Bengals Line. 1:35:29.360 --> 1:35:33.479 We're on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Lance. 1:35:33.800 --> 1:35:37.000 First, dont's talk injuries with the Cincinnati Bengals. Date didn't 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:41.439 really have any major injuries sustained during the action against 1:35:41.479 --> 1:35:44.439 the Baltimore Ravens, which was good because they had guys 1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:47.000 that could not participate in the football game. But nobody 1:35:47.120 --> 1:35:48.720 is going to miss more than a week, I don't think. 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:49.120 So. 1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:52.280 You've got guys nursing injuries and working their way back 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:54.280 to the lineup. I think all hands will be on 1:35:54.400 --> 1:35:58.040 deck when they get out to practice full on Wednesday 1:35:58.080 --> 1:36:01.080 of this week, and that Information presented by Kiddering Healthy, 1:36:01.120 --> 1:36:04.720 official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals, providing the best care, 1:36:05.160 --> 1:36:08.320 the best fans and also Bengals fans. Make sure to 1:36:08.360 --> 1:36:11.240 catch me and Dan Hord every Wednesday this season from 1:36:11.280 --> 1:36:14.000 Bengals Game Plan, presented by Bud Light on the air 1:36:14.040 --> 1:36:17.040 from six to eight pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. All Right. 1:36:17.040 --> 1:36:18.840 Each week we like to go behind the scenes. Dan 1:36:18.920 --> 1:36:22.519 Horde does a fantastic segment called Fantastic Fun Facts. You 1:36:22.560 --> 1:36:26.040 get to know about the player beyond the person, beyond 1:36:26.080 --> 1:36:30.160 the player, and this week's edition is veteran Bengals linebacker 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:33.479 or In Burks. Here is Dan Horde at Fantastic Fun Facts. 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:38.439 No Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord. 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:43.679 Time for some fun facts with linebacker Oron Burks from Lorton, Virginia, 1:36:43.960 --> 1:36:46.519 not too far from Washington, d C. What were some 1:36:46.640 --> 1:36:48.960 of the things you enjoyed about growing up there. 1:36:49.640 --> 1:36:51.519 Yeah, one just had a lot of family there. 1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:53.960 Just I feel like the DMV as a whole, just 1:36:54.000 --> 1:36:57.960 a lot of culture there, music, food, You're close to 1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.160 a little bit of everything, a lot of all. It 1:37:00.200 --> 1:37:02.320 takes a lot of military, but yeah, I just have 1:37:02.400 --> 1:37:04.840 great memories growing up there a lot of history there 1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:07.920 as well in the DC area, so I feel like 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:10.120 I didn't appreciate it as much as I do as 1:37:10.120 --> 1:37:12.280 an adult now going back and like really seeing how 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:13.120 cool the city it is. 1:37:13.200 --> 1:37:14.640 So love living there. 1:37:15.160 --> 1:37:17.280 There's an old picture of you on the internet from 1:37:17.320 --> 1:37:19.840 being the homecoming king at your high school. Were you 1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:23.240 involved in other activities as well? Are pretty much sports only? 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:24.360 Yeah, a lot of sports. 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:28.080 I was involved with FCA at our school, as much 1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:31.280 community service as I can get into, and just very 1:37:31.320 --> 1:37:33.320 social we had. We had a really really cool high 1:37:33.320 --> 1:37:36.639 school experience with just everybody supporting each other with sports 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:38.520 and academics. 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:39.720 Was a huge pieces for me. 1:37:39.920 --> 1:37:42.439 My family as well obviously ended up going to Vanderbilt, 1:37:42.439 --> 1:37:45.240 so that was a big piece for me moving into college. Uh, 1:37:45.520 --> 1:37:48.000 and my sister went to Stanford play softball there as well, 1:37:48.720 --> 1:37:53.679 So we're always student athletes, And I just really appreciate 1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:56.840 my my upbringing. My parents enforced that really early into us, 1:37:57.240 --> 1:38:00.200 just having great values and knowing that it's beyond sort 1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:02.360 and just having an impact in your community and beyond. 1:38:02.479 --> 1:38:04.560 So yeah, that was a big piece of me. 1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:07.600 So with you at Vanderbilt and your sister at Stanford. 1:38:07.760 --> 1:38:10.160 Did your folks more or less tell you make this 1:38:10.439 --> 1:38:13.640 choice as much about the academics as the athletics. 1:38:14.120 --> 1:38:16.600 Not directly, but definitely kind of indirectly. They were like, 1:38:16.720 --> 1:38:19.679 you know, just think about the long term situation. What's 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:21.559 your major, what you want to do, you know, beyond 1:38:21.680 --> 1:38:24.639 playing the game, because you know, like the numbers tell 1:38:24.680 --> 1:38:26.240 you that, you know, you're probably not going to play 1:38:26.240 --> 1:38:30.439 in the NFL or for her professional sports, but just 1:38:30.520 --> 1:38:32.920 having a backup plan when that does come. And you know, 1:38:32.960 --> 1:38:35.360 I feel like that has allowed me to be a 1:38:35.439 --> 1:38:41.240 well rounded individual. Just just really taking intent about my 1:38:41.400 --> 1:38:45.439 my academics has helped me tremendously, you know, just the 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:48.240 way I process thing, the way I learned, and just 1:38:48.760 --> 1:38:50.759 again just being a well, well around the individual. 1:38:51.320 --> 1:38:54.360 You started out as a safety at Vanderbilt. How did 1:38:54.400 --> 1:38:56.479 you become a linebacker and how did you feel about it? 1:38:57.000 --> 1:38:59.520 Yeah? So I was actually a recruited as a linebacker. 1:38:59.600 --> 1:39:02.280 I was James Franklin, I know, he's a Virginia technologis 1:39:02.400 --> 1:39:04.519 last recruiting class at Vandy before he went to Penn State. 1:39:04.920 --> 1:39:07.400 I was a linebacker that year. We had new coaches. 1:39:07.439 --> 1:39:10.360 Toff come in with Coach Mason, and he saw me 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:14.320 as a safety, So I played safety. I was middle posts, 1:39:14.439 --> 1:39:16.840 like running all over the place for two years, and 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:21.120 then I played a hybrid outside inside position, and then I. 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:24.719 Played inside my last year, so really all over the field. 1:39:24.760 --> 1:39:26.800 But for me, it's just about find a way to 1:39:26.800 --> 1:39:29.439 get on the field, add value, make plays, and I 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:31.760 feel like that allowed me to have the skill set. 1:39:31.840 --> 1:39:34.080 You know, this league has changed a lot at the 1:39:34.560 --> 1:39:37.280 lineback position, being able to run and cover, and I 1:39:37.320 --> 1:39:40.000 feel like that safety background has definitely helped me in 1:39:40.120 --> 1:39:42.599 terms of like seeing the game from a different perspective. 1:39:42.920 --> 1:39:45.559 We're chatting with Orren Burks as we do this interview. 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:49.240 Your alma maters ranked twelfth in the country in college football. 1:39:49.320 --> 1:39:52.400 How much fun is it for Vanderbilt grads to see 1:39:52.479 --> 1:39:55.200 this rise of the commodorees in college football? 1:39:55.680 --> 1:39:57.360 Man, it's been it's been a long time coming. 1:39:57.760 --> 1:39:59.840 Just so proud of the guys, Coach Lee leading the 1:39:59.840 --> 1:40:03.040 w and having the opportunity to be around them during 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:05.599 the spring, in the summer, just seeing like the culture 1:40:05.640 --> 1:40:08.320 that they're building, and just just so proud as a 1:40:08.400 --> 1:40:10.760 long to go to see them, you know, thriving on 1:40:10.800 --> 1:40:13.000 the field and doing it at a high level and 1:40:13.040 --> 1:40:15.920 getting you know, the exposure from the national media, but 1:40:17.160 --> 1:40:19.479 just always had faith in you know, this program doing 1:40:19.520 --> 1:40:21.960 it the right way, and the city of Nashville is 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:23.120 just getting behind them as well. 1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:25.519 So it's been really cool to see the guys take 1:40:25.560 --> 1:40:26.040 off this year. 1:40:26.439 --> 1:40:28.479 You're drafted by the Green Bay Packers in the third 1:40:28.560 --> 1:40:32.439 round in twenty eighteen. How stressful was that day leading 1:40:32.520 --> 1:40:33.479 up to getting the phone call. 1:40:34.280 --> 1:40:35.439 I wasn't very stressed. 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:37.519 I feel like I had, you know, at that point, 1:40:37.560 --> 1:40:39.479 you do everything you can to put yourself in the 1:40:39.520 --> 1:40:42.679 best situation in terms of being drafted, and I felt 1:40:42.760 --> 1:40:45.519 really good about my draft process. I played well in 1:40:45.560 --> 1:40:48.000 the Senior Bowls a lad ad there, did well in 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:50.320 the combine. I felt like I did well in my interviews, 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:52.200 and my tape was my tape from college. You know, 1:40:52.240 --> 1:40:54.200 I had a lot of versatility from safety to the 1:40:54.240 --> 1:40:56.360 inside and outside, and I felt like I had kind 1:40:56.400 --> 1:40:59.599 of like done everything I could and just really had 1:40:59.760 --> 1:41:02.479 a of like it's freedom, you know, just like being 1:41:02.520 --> 1:41:04.960 able to surrender the outcomes of where I would land. 1:41:05.000 --> 1:41:06.400 You have no idea where you're going to be, so 1:41:06.720 --> 1:41:08.640 like it's not even worth you trying to guess for 1:41:08.720 --> 1:41:10.559 the guys that are going through that process coming up. 1:41:11.240 --> 1:41:13.599 But yeah, I just felt like I had done everything 1:41:13.640 --> 1:41:16.719 I could and was excited for the opportunity to land anywhere, 1:41:16.800 --> 1:41:18.240 you know, in the NFL and make my mark. 1:41:19.000 --> 1:41:21.639 The Packers missed the playoffs your rookie year. Since then, 1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:24.760 you've been on six consecutive playoff teams with Green Bay, 1:41:24.840 --> 1:41:27.080 San Francisco and Philly. You've played in the last two 1:41:27.200 --> 1:41:31.160 Super Bowls. What have you learned about the most important 1:41:31.280 --> 1:41:32.880 traits of winning teams? 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:37.040 Man, it's a lot, I'll say first, it's just culture 1:41:37.120 --> 1:41:42.240 is so important. Just the standard for play, play style, 1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:44.120 not even just scheme, just the way that you play 1:41:44.200 --> 1:41:48.000 the game, the way that you prepare your process. It 1:41:48.360 --> 1:41:50.920 bleeds over to everybody into the building. It includes the 1:41:50.960 --> 1:41:53.840 front staff, the back, like everybody has to be bought 1:41:53.880 --> 1:41:57.360 in for you to really make a run. And I 1:41:57.439 --> 1:42:00.439 feel like that has improved my process as well. It 1:42:00.479 --> 1:42:03.160 made me a better person, maybe a better man, in 1:42:03.320 --> 1:42:06.360 terms of like the accountability that it takes, the effort 1:42:06.439 --> 1:42:10.360 that it takes, and ultimately vulnerability like this game, like 1:42:10.400 --> 1:42:13.439 you're exposed every every Sunday, you're out there and you 1:42:13.520 --> 1:42:15.280 know the whole world is seeing you, so you're just 1:42:15.320 --> 1:42:17.840 trying to put your best foot forward for yourself and 1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:20.640 for your brothers next to you. So I don't know, 1:42:20.800 --> 1:42:24.639 just taking that approach, as you know, it had it's 1:42:24.680 --> 1:42:26.560 better in my life, you know, in terms of me 1:42:26.800 --> 1:42:29.120 having to be better for my brother right next to me. 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:32.599 So I just really enjoyed that about football, the challenge 1:42:32.640 --> 1:42:34.200 that it is every weekend and week out. 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:35.800 It's find a way to get better. 1:42:36.520 --> 1:42:38.840 I work with Dave Lappa on the broadcasts. He was 1:42:38.920 --> 1:42:40.760 on the Super Team in nineteen eighty one with the 1:42:40.760 --> 1:42:43.639 Bengals lost to the forty nine Ers. It still hurts 1:42:43.920 --> 1:42:46.479 to this day. You played on the losing team a 1:42:46.520 --> 1:42:49.840 couple of years ago, and then the next year we're 1:42:49.880 --> 1:42:53.360 on the winning team with the Philadelphia Eagles. How did 1:42:53.760 --> 1:42:56.719 that feel, considering that you still had that fresh wound 1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:57.719 from the year before. 1:42:58.520 --> 1:43:01.040 Yeah, it was just I feel like I just had 1:43:01.080 --> 1:43:02.800 the mindset that I have to see it through, you know. 1:43:03.400 --> 1:43:06.439 Just having the opportunity and coming up short with the Niners, 1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:08.120 and then having the opportunity the next year against the 1:43:08.160 --> 1:43:12.560 same team that that very rarely happens, So it's a 1:43:12.600 --> 1:43:15.160 different locker room but you know they had to experienced 1:43:15.200 --> 1:43:16.639 the same thing a couple of years ago, is losing 1:43:16.640 --> 1:43:18.840 to the Chiefs as well, So I felt like there 1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:22.160 was a lot of joint motivation towards, you know, getting 1:43:22.160 --> 1:43:25.600 it right this time. And yeah, just just wanted to 1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:28.200 lead out it on the field everything I could, you know, 1:43:28.600 --> 1:43:30.760 preparation and just knowing what to expect for the Super 1:43:30.800 --> 1:43:32.880 Bowl week as well. It was really important in terms 1:43:32.880 --> 1:43:36.760 of sticking to your process. The craziness outside and you 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:38.920 know that that goes into that week as well. Just 1:43:38.960 --> 1:43:41.360 being able to keep your head down and work towards 1:43:41.400 --> 1:43:44.040 the ultimate goal because afterwards there's no greater feeling. And 1:43:44.080 --> 1:43:47.080 then then host hoisting that that Lombardi Trophy and being 1:43:47.120 --> 1:43:48.000 with your brothers. 1:43:47.680 --> 1:43:50.559 In the in the locker room. So yeah, just looking 1:43:50.720 --> 1:43:51.800 looking to repeat that feeling. 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:55.000 It's not quite the Philly Special, but you made a 1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:58.439 play that Eagles fans will be talking about for decades. 1:43:58.520 --> 1:44:00.960 You forst to fumble on the very first play of 1:44:01.080 --> 1:44:04.320 the playoff run with a jarring hit to the Packers 1:44:04.479 --> 1:44:07.040 kick returner. How cool is it to have a moment 1:44:07.200 --> 1:44:10.360 like that that anytime you go back to Philly, somebody's 1:44:10.400 --> 1:44:13.080 going to say, orn Bergs, wait to force that fumble. 1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:16.080 Yeah, it's special. It's special, you know, going into playoffs. 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:17.600 I played in a lot of playoff games before that, 1:44:17.720 --> 1:44:20.519 and I just remember my telling myself that week, just 1:44:20.560 --> 1:44:21.800 find a way to make a player is going to 1:44:21.880 --> 1:44:24.120 change the game. And what better way to change the 1:44:24.160 --> 1:44:26.759 game than the opening kickoff forcing the fun will getting 1:44:26.760 --> 1:44:29.800 the ball out and we go down to drive start 1:44:29.840 --> 1:44:32.559 and score right there. So just to get a quick 1:44:32.640 --> 1:44:35.599 jump on it, setting the tone for the playoffs the place, 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:37.320 Like again, the play style that we wanted to have, 1:44:37.400 --> 1:44:38.640 the physicality that we wanted to have. 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:40.720 It's super cool. 1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:42.479 I still get like dms every once in a while, 1:44:42.560 --> 1:44:44.080 Like I'll never forget that, you know, that play that 1:44:44.160 --> 1:44:47.160 you're talking about, the opening kickoff of the of the 1:44:47.240 --> 1:44:50.680 Packers game. So yeah, just definitely still feel the love, 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:52.600 you know, from from Philly fans and beyond, you know, 1:44:52.760 --> 1:44:55.000 for you know, making a play that you know changed 1:44:55.040 --> 1:44:55.280 the game. 1:44:55.360 --> 1:44:58.720 But yeah, just a really cool moment, all right. 1:44:58.720 --> 1:45:01.280 A few wild card topics out for Orrin Berks. Who 1:45:01.400 --> 1:45:04.799 is your all time favorite athlete in any sport? 1:45:05.439 --> 1:45:05.840 And why? 1:45:07.439 --> 1:45:13.000 Obviously Michael Jordan just like his competitiveness, you know, that's 1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:14.000 that's hard to emulate. 1:45:14.080 --> 1:45:15.320 And just like his his. 1:45:17.040 --> 1:45:20.320 His drive to hold the others around him accountable, the 1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:22.280 same with Kobe, like kind of that mindset. 1:45:23.120 --> 1:45:24.519 So yeah, I'd probably have to go with those two 1:45:24.840 --> 1:45:26.400 Jordan's in Kobe. 1:45:26.840 --> 1:45:29.120 You earned your degree at Vanderbilt. Do you know what 1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:30.360 you want to do after football? 1:45:31.160 --> 1:45:33.360 Yeah, I'm you know, figuring it out. I do a 1:45:33.400 --> 1:45:35.639 little bit of real estate inside, but I really enjoy 1:45:37.360 --> 1:45:42.120 just business, the critical thinking around that, using business tactics 1:45:42.160 --> 1:45:45.759 to attack social problems and create change in the community. 1:45:46.160 --> 1:45:48.280 So definitely things around that. That's that's kind of what 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:48.840 I'm looking at. 1:45:48.880 --> 1:45:51.120 But you know, I'm enjoying my time in the league, 1:45:51.120 --> 1:45:53.840 and you know, I'll have so many doors that are 1:45:53.920 --> 1:45:56.120 going to be open, you know, when the time comes 1:45:56.160 --> 1:45:56.880 after I retire. 1:45:56.920 --> 1:46:00.600 But just focus on now, Aside from sports, what are 1:46:00.640 --> 1:46:01.120 you good at? 1:46:02.760 --> 1:46:03.840 I feel like I'm good with people. 1:46:04.840 --> 1:46:10.320 I truly enjoy the team aspect of sport, and I 1:46:10.439 --> 1:46:13.519 try to carry that into my relationships with my wife, 1:46:13.680 --> 1:46:16.080 with my friends, with my family and just try to 1:46:16.120 --> 1:46:17.080 pull the best out of people. 1:46:17.160 --> 1:46:19.320 So that's I feel like that's what I'm good at all. 1:46:19.439 --> 1:46:21.880 Right, final fun fact for Aaron Burks. This one's kind 1:46:21.880 --> 1:46:25.719 of deep. If you could meet anyone in history, living 1:46:26.000 --> 1:46:28.120 or deceased, who would that person be? 1:46:28.640 --> 1:46:32.280 Yeah, probably be probably Jackie Robinson. Most people don't know. 1:46:32.320 --> 1:46:34.559 That's the reason why I wear forty two. So coming 1:46:34.560 --> 1:46:36.240 to the league, you have to have a forty or 1:46:36.240 --> 1:46:38.799 fifty number to be linebacker. And you know that was presented, 1:46:38.880 --> 1:46:40.720 and you know that thought would be cool to pay 1:46:40.760 --> 1:46:43.519 homage to, you know, one of the first black athletes 1:46:43.680 --> 1:46:45.560 in professional sports, and like all that he had to 1:46:45.600 --> 1:46:48.800 go through, the mental fortitude that he carried and the 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:49.880 poise that he carried as well. 1:46:49.920 --> 1:46:51.920 So I feel like that would be really cool to 1:46:51.960 --> 1:46:54.000 hear his story like firsthand. 1:46:54.520 --> 1:46:56.400 I love it and I will definitely mention it the 1:46:56.439 --> 1:46:59.320 next time number forty two makes a tackle. Arren Burks, 1:46:59.320 --> 1:47:01.240 appreciate your time. Best of luck the rest of the year. 1:47:01.360 --> 1:47:01.960 I appreciate it. 1:47:02.439 --> 1:47:05.200 Oron Burks the subject of this week's Fantastic Fun Facts 1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:07.360 and Dave. Just a final thought on Oron Burks on 1:47:07.439 --> 1:47:10.120 a team with rookie linebackers and certainly Logan Wilson no 1:47:10.200 --> 1:47:12.400 longer here by trade, I think there's great value in 1:47:12.479 --> 1:47:14.920 an Oron Burks being a veteran linebacker, got a Super 1:47:14.960 --> 1:47:18.240 Bowl under his belt. He can be a guiding voice 1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:21.000 and kind of steer the young guys they have at 1:47:21.040 --> 1:47:21.400 that group. 1:47:21.479 --> 1:47:24.280 I agree, one hundred thousand percent. Lance and Oran Brooks 1:47:24.400 --> 1:47:26.880 is a great guy. Everybody that I talked to in 1:47:26.920 --> 1:47:29.400 the locker rooms and they love him. They love him 1:47:29.439 --> 1:47:31.479 as a football player, they love him as a human being. 1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:35.080 I mean, he is just an unbelievably fine person. You know, 1:47:35.120 --> 1:47:36.519 every once in a while, you're going to meet somebody 1:47:36.600 --> 1:47:39.960 that makes a huge impression on you. And Aaron Burks 1:47:40.000 --> 1:47:43.519 does that with these young players, not only in terms 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:47.599 of football, but also their life, you know, marriage, family, 1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:49.720 how to be a good husband, how to be a 1:47:49.760 --> 1:47:52.280 good father, all those kind of things. So and the 1:47:52.360 --> 1:47:55.040 fact is, young guys look up to guys that want 1:47:55.080 --> 1:47:56.840 a Super Bowl. Yes, you got a Super Bowl ring 1:47:56.920 --> 1:48:00.840 hanging off your finger, man, that's a that's ability right there. 1:48:01.320 --> 1:48:04.760 And they're gonna listen to whatever Oron Brooks has to say. 1:48:05.040 --> 1:48:07.479 And Oron Brooks is not gonna steer them wrong, no doubt, 1:48:07.600 --> 1:48:08.320 no doubt at all. 1:48:08.320 --> 1:48:11.000 All Right, two segments to go follow us. Our next segment, 1:48:11.080 --> 1:48:13.760 we'll go behind the stripes, Dan and lap talk about 1:48:14.040 --> 1:48:18.320 their best calls over fifteen years together. It's some fantastic stuff. 1:48:18.560 --> 1:48:20.400 You're gonna hear it as we continue with Bengals Line 1:48:20.400 --> 1:48:23.320 on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 1:48:23.360 --> 1:48:28.880 Sports Station. Hey, welcome back to Bengals Line on this 1:48:29.040 --> 1:48:31.799 Monday night on the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen 1:48:31.880 --> 1:48:34.599 thirty Lines. But catlist alongside is Dave Lepham. 1:48:35.080 --> 1:48:38.920 As everybody knows, Lance Alta Fiber is the official Wi 1:48:39.000 --> 1:48:42.200 Fi and Internet provider of the Bengals and Greater Cincinnati's 1:48:42.240 --> 1:48:45.439 fastest internet with up to two gig symmetrical speeds. 1:48:46.000 --> 1:48:48.760 Cool feature this week Bengals dot com. It's part of 1:48:48.800 --> 1:48:52.240 the series Behind the Stripes and it's Dan and Lapp 1:48:52.360 --> 1:48:55.799 talking about fifteen years together in terms of best calls, 1:48:55.880 --> 1:48:59.400 favorite calls, and you're gonna hear the stories behind each 1:48:59.400 --> 1:49:01.599 of those calls. Let's go back and pick it up 1:49:01.640 --> 1:49:05.720 with Week sixteen, twenty twelve in Pittsburgh. Here's Behind the 1:49:05.800 --> 1:49:07.120 Stripes with Dan and Ladle. 1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:11.519 The thing I remember about that game is it's the 1:49:11.600 --> 1:49:14.000 most physical game I've ever seen in my life. 1:49:15.120 --> 1:49:17.000 We've been doing this for fifteen years. Together. 1:49:17.479 --> 1:49:20.240 That game stands out for the violence on the field. 1:49:20.400 --> 1:49:23.400 Two really good teams. The winner was going to go 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:25.599 to the playoffs, the loser was going to be left out. 1:49:25.720 --> 1:49:29.680 Cincinnati won in Pittsburgh to clinch the playoff berth. And 1:49:29.840 --> 1:49:31.680 the thing that stands out after the game is that 1:49:31.720 --> 1:49:35.040 we all got to hear you sing serenading Gino Atkins 1:49:35.120 --> 1:49:37.519 in the locker room after he punished a big ben 1:49:37.640 --> 1:49:38.639 during the course of that game. 1:49:38.800 --> 1:49:40.840 Fall drop straight back round, russure at. 1:49:40.800 --> 1:49:46.240 Kingsm again, Gino Atkins putting on an absolute show. Can 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:48.719 we get a replay of you singing to Gino Atkins, 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:55.880 Geno Aladdins, Geno Adkis, Gino ahead. 1:49:56.080 --> 1:49:56.320 Kids. 1:50:00.920 --> 1:50:03.679 So I've been posting clips of some of our radio 1:50:03.840 --> 1:50:06.880 calls on the internet almost the entire time that we've 1:50:06.920 --> 1:50:08.120 been doing the games together. 1:50:08.840 --> 1:50:11.160 That play is the one that's been listened. 1:50:10.800 --> 1:50:11.920 To the most. 1:50:12.400 --> 1:50:15.679 Fourth and One Rogers has it gets to Frankment, he dies, 1:50:16.080 --> 1:50:19.840 don't think a good I don't thinking ball do is out? 1:50:20.640 --> 1:50:21.439 Let's cook it out. 1:50:21.880 --> 1:50:23.320 It's not running that out. 1:50:23.760 --> 1:50:25.679 Bengals touchdown. Terrence Steuman. 1:50:26.680 --> 1:50:31.200 People love balls out, balls out, ball out, And I 1:50:31.320 --> 1:50:34.160 honestly think that when there's a fumble in a game. 1:50:34.280 --> 1:50:37.000 Now, I think I used that expression more often than not, 1:50:37.320 --> 1:50:38.800 because that's now what. 1:50:38.920 --> 1:50:41.400 I hear in my head. I hear your reaction to 1:50:41.520 --> 1:50:43.320 that moment. I'm glad you saw it. 1:50:43.439 --> 1:50:46.160 Obviously, I was locked in on whether the Bengals got 1:50:46.200 --> 1:50:48.160 to stop on fourth and one. I didn't see the 1:50:48.240 --> 1:50:51.240 ball come out initially. With that great defensive play at 1:50:51.280 --> 1:50:52.519 the end of the game, it was one of the 1:50:52.560 --> 1:50:53.800 wackier games that we've seen. 1:50:54.200 --> 1:50:59.280 I mean wickedly wacky. To give up thirty consecutive points 1:50:59.840 --> 1:51:03.679 and have a defensive touchdown. When the football game, somebody 1:51:03.760 --> 1:51:06.800 throws a great block, or somebody throws somebody makes a 1:51:06.840 --> 1:51:11.040 great move, you know, to break free. Man, Those defensive 1:51:11.080 --> 1:51:14.120 scores are rare. They're fun, no doubt. 1:51:15.040 --> 1:51:18.080 From the thirteen yard line, twelve seconds to go, talk 1:51:18.160 --> 1:51:19.080 you back to throw. 1:51:20.720 --> 1:51:25.320 Yeah Jah, touchdown, Bengals. 1:51:26.200 --> 1:51:30.040 It's the latest game winning touchdown that we've called together. 1:51:30.200 --> 1:51:32.720 I think when they checked out the clock, they put 1:51:32.760 --> 1:51:34.680 six seconds back on the clock. So to see a 1:51:34.720 --> 1:51:37.320 game winning touchdown pass with less than ten seconds to 1:51:37.400 --> 1:51:41.040 go is great. Atlanta's AJ Green's adopted hometown, so for 1:51:41.160 --> 1:51:43.400 him to be in Atlanta and make a play like 1:51:43.479 --> 1:51:45.439 that in the final ten seconds to win a game 1:51:45.520 --> 1:51:45.960 was really cool. 1:51:46.080 --> 1:51:49.200 Yeah, it really is plays like that in memories that 1:51:49.320 --> 1:51:52.639 those plays create or why you play. 1:51:52.800 --> 1:51:54.439 It's almost like you free streamed. 1:51:54.680 --> 1:51:57.800 Do you remember exactly where you were, when you were there, 1:51:58.280 --> 1:52:00.240 why you were there, everything that goes long with it 1:52:00.520 --> 1:52:02.439 when you do it on the road you travel home. 1:52:02.840 --> 1:52:04.760 I mean, it's like you don't need a plane, you know, 1:52:04.840 --> 1:52:08.000 It's like you're you can fly. You can fly by yourself. 1:52:08.360 --> 1:52:10.200 You're up there flapping your own wings man. 1:52:11.439 --> 1:52:16.160 And that is the coffin nail Bam bam bam. 1:52:16.439 --> 1:52:19.280 There was early in a broadcast partnership, but at the 1:52:19.479 --> 1:52:22.800 end of a game. I don't remember the game when 1:52:22.880 --> 1:52:26.360 the Bengals made the play that clinched victory, I just 1:52:26.560 --> 1:52:30.360 said as an expression. It wasn't preconceived or anything like that. 1:52:30.560 --> 1:52:33.280 I just said, coffin nails because the game was over, 1:52:33.840 --> 1:52:35.599 and you immediately. 1:52:35.120 --> 1:52:37.960 Said bam bam bam. 1:52:39.240 --> 1:52:41.519 To this day, I don't know really why it just 1:52:41.720 --> 1:52:43.439 just came to you in the moment, I assume exactly. 1:52:43.560 --> 1:52:44.840 I mean, I don't know why either. I don't know. 1:52:44.880 --> 1:52:46.280 I guess it's kind of morbid. 1:52:46.400 --> 1:52:48.120 You know what's like coffin nails. 1:52:48.120 --> 1:52:51.479 Well, I do remember seeing movies that are and people 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:54.160 banging those coffin nails in is something that almost every 1:52:54.240 --> 1:52:57.519 Bengals fan. Uh you know, I see them out in 1:52:57.560 --> 1:53:01.640 the street or wherever. Hey, coffinail damn bam bam. You 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:05.720 know I'll say Confide Hills. You say vam bam bam. Okay, yeah, 1:53:05.760 --> 1:53:06.240 we can do that. 1:53:07.160 --> 1:53:09.920 Four years ago, he was a senior in high school 1:53:10.000 --> 1:53:13.599 in tiny Fort Payne, Alabama. Now the Bengels Super Bowl 1:53:13.760 --> 1:53:15.679 chances rest on his right foot. 1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:19.160 The kick is up yet, Yeah, good. 1:53:21.920 --> 1:53:28.880 Coffin nows Bam bam bam. That is unba believable. The 1:53:29.040 --> 1:53:34.120 Cincinnati Bengals comes from behind on the road, it's history. Man, 1:53:34.880 --> 1:53:36.720 have a game winning kick like that to get you there. 1:53:36.800 --> 1:53:39.280 That that is that's a big time. That's a lot 1:53:39.320 --> 1:53:39.559 of fun. 1:53:40.360 --> 1:53:42.639 So you summed it up perfectly. After the kick goes 1:53:42.680 --> 1:53:47.519 through the uprights, un bah believable. That's what was going 1:53:47.640 --> 1:53:51.440 through my mind until that ball goes through the uprights. 1:53:51.680 --> 1:53:54.200 I'm not sure that in my mind I had really 1:53:54.320 --> 1:53:56.600 grasped you're gonna be calling a super Bowl in a 1:53:56.680 --> 1:53:57.280 couple of weeks. 1:53:57.360 --> 1:53:59.960 Yeah, and I mean that's the epitome for a broadcast, 1:54:00.280 --> 1:54:03.200 you know. I mean, if you're gonna broadcast NFL games, 1:54:03.520 --> 1:54:04.639 you want to call the big one. 1:54:05.720 --> 1:54:08.800 Dave Lapham has rejoined us here in the broadcast booth 1:54:09.360 --> 1:54:12.320 wearing his stylish Yes Ring of Honor blazer. 1:54:12.400 --> 1:54:13.600 That thing looks great on you. 1:54:14.080 --> 1:54:16.640 It was a surreal experience getting the jacket put on 1:54:16.760 --> 1:54:19.680 with Lamar Parrish and all the other Bengal Ring of 1:54:19.760 --> 1:54:23.679 Honor members. And it's a man, it's like a dream. 1:54:23.800 --> 1:54:26.840 You just don't want to wake up. It's everything I 1:54:26.960 --> 1:54:29.360 hoped it would be for my grandchildren, my kids and 1:54:29.479 --> 1:54:31.519 my grandkids, and my wife Lynn as well. 1:54:32.240 --> 1:54:34.240 I was so thrilled when the vote came out. 1:54:34.960 --> 1:54:37.880 It's so well deserved, not only for your great playing 1:54:37.960 --> 1:54:41.200 career as the most versatile offensive lineman this franchise has 1:54:41.240 --> 1:54:44.840 ever had, but for being the greatest ambassador to the 1:54:45.000 --> 1:54:48.240 fan base that the Cincinnati Bengals have ever had. 1:54:48.400 --> 1:54:50.160 The way I feel about it and working with Dan, 1:54:50.600 --> 1:54:52.360 it's I don't look at it as a job. I 1:54:52.480 --> 1:54:55.240 look at it as a hobby. It's fun. It keeps 1:54:55.280 --> 1:54:56.839 you young, keeps me young. Anyway. 1:54:57.240 --> 1:54:59.600 The Bengals are very fortunate they've had you as part 1:54:59.600 --> 1:55:01.560 of this thing family for fifty years. 1:55:01.720 --> 1:55:02.360 I'm very proud. 1:55:02.400 --> 1:55:04.000 Every time I look up at that wing and see 1:55:04.080 --> 1:55:06.520 lap on sixty two puts a smile on my face. 1:55:06.800 --> 1:55:09.200 Appreciate you man behind the stripes with Dan and lap 1:55:09.320 --> 1:55:11.880 I love the story of Dan and coffin Nails and 1:55:11.920 --> 1:55:15.080 you the bam bam bam and how just organically started. 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:17.240 And now I got to think, if you're like at 1:55:17.480 --> 1:55:19.240 I could see you at Kroger, or like at the 1:55:19.320 --> 1:55:21.920 bank and somebody yelling coffin nails and you have to 1:55:21.960 --> 1:55:23.840 turn around and go bam, bam. 1:55:23.680 --> 1:55:29.640 Bam, right, or what happens to us People will be like, hey, 1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:31.160 bam bam bamm. 1:55:31.200 --> 1:55:32.800 No, no, no, you got me all messed up. 1:55:32.880 --> 1:55:34.280 Now do it in the right war. 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:38.720 You gotta say coffin nows. That is fantastic. That was 1:55:38.760 --> 1:55:40.360 a really cool feature. I was glad we were able 1:55:40.400 --> 1:55:42.520 to get that one in. This week, we'll head. 1:55:42.400 --> 1:55:44.960 Down the stretch, hand out the game balls. Stick around 1:55:45.000 --> 1:55:46.680 for that. It's been a while, but it's worth it. 1:55:47.080 --> 1:55:49.200 It's at Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network at 1:55:49.400 --> 1:55:56.920 ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station here we go down 1:55:57.040 --> 1:55:59.160 the stretch on Monday Night, a Bengals line and the 1:55:59.200 --> 1:56:01.200 Bengals Radio Network. 1:56:01.240 --> 1:56:03.800 Last Pai cour is proud to be the official HR 1:56:03.920 --> 1:56:06.520 software provider of the Cincinnati Benge. 1:56:06.640 --> 1:56:08.840 After eah Bengals win, we like to give you the 1:56:09.080 --> 1:56:11.320 sounds of victory from the locker room in the form 1:56:11.400 --> 1:56:13.800 of game balls. Take a listen to this and you'll 1:56:13.840 --> 1:56:16.720 hear a Zach Taylor referenced brick That is Jeff Brickner, 1:56:16.760 --> 1:56:19.720 their director of operations we talked about earlier in the show. 1:56:19.880 --> 1:56:23.480 Helped navigate and savage the challenges of mechanical issues on 1:56:23.560 --> 1:56:26.520 the plane. Here's Zach Taylor after the win, handing out 1:56:26.640 --> 1:56:27.240 game balls. 1:56:27.640 --> 1:56:28.600 I'm proud of you guys. 1:56:28.840 --> 1:56:31.280 Okay, this season hasn't been what we expected so far, 1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:33.920 but all you guys done, keep fighting, keep working, and 1:56:34.040 --> 1:56:35.800 todight is the fruit of those flavors. 1:56:35.840 --> 1:56:36.000 Man. 1:56:36.200 --> 1:56:38.560 You guys have practice to me. You come out here 1:56:38.600 --> 1:56:40.280 and you compete, You believe in each other, you take 1:56:40.320 --> 1:56:42.360 care of each other. You found a big win and 1:56:42.440 --> 1:56:44.920 now that's to be a momental builder for us going 1:56:44.960 --> 1:56:48.360 into the month of December. Okay, all right, appreciate you guys. 1:56:48.400 --> 1:56:49.880 I got a lot of game balls, get back. It's 1:56:49.920 --> 1:56:54.760 been a long time. Okay, waa them Okay, six field goals, 1:57:00.920 --> 1:57:05.000 let's franchise re s my annoying you six a. 1:57:16.720 --> 1:57:18.080 Side, two cents. 1:57:21.400 --> 1:57:22.360 You have a fun. 1:57:27.920 --> 1:57:29.080 Alright when you get a game. 1:57:28.960 --> 1:57:38.160 Boy, I gotta take a piece of chicken, don't eat. 1:57:38.680 --> 1:57:39.960 And I like. 1:57:43.520 --> 1:57:45.320 Miles Murphy red zone. 1:57:45.480 --> 1:57:48.520 Huge hit by Miles d Night with the pick came 1:57:48.600 --> 1:57:58.400 all from both yay. 1:58:00.240 --> 1:58:02.440 Sir Johnson to fumble recovery. 1:58:06.760 --> 1:58:13.840 Gets it up to Turkey again, he said, And I damn, 1:58:13.920 --> 1:58:17.160 I my this yere j D knocking that ball. 1:58:17.120 --> 1:58:31.160 Upright, turn it now? Never giving up on the plane 1:58:31.200 --> 1:58:32.640 man knocking up all three? 1:58:33.040 --> 1:58:34.040 Who's the touch man? 1:58:39.720 --> 1:58:39.760 No? 1:58:40.920 --> 1:58:43.120 Oh, thank turkey, Turkey get. 1:58:56.640 --> 1:58:57.680 I don't know what that was. 1:58:58.800 --> 1:59:04.160 Jase Brown six straight games with over one hundred scrimming jars, 1:59:04.520 --> 1:59:23.440 the most begs history. I know, statistically it's not gonna 1:59:23.440 --> 1:59:25.160 be the best game you ever had. But to have 1:59:25.320 --> 1:59:27.560 Joe Burrow back from everything he worked through to give 1:59:27.640 --> 1:59:30.560 that come here on the road short week. The visual 1:59:30.680 --> 1:59:43.080 win lead us to victory was Joe Burrow game. You know, okay, 1:59:43.240 --> 1:59:46.280 you want to talk about fighting through adversity, Okay, and 1:59:46.400 --> 1:59:50.480 lead enough and not witching for one second last night, 1:59:51.280 --> 2:00:07.760 Jeff Brickner, U, no. 2:00:08.040 --> 2:00:23.160 No, nothing beats the sounds of victory. Now four and eight, 2:00:23.320 --> 2:00:26.480 two games back. The Ravens and Steelers play each other 2:00:26.600 --> 2:00:28.440 this weekend. The Bengals go to Buffalo. 2:00:28.880 --> 2:00:29.440 Buckle up. 2:00:29.640 --> 2:00:31.800 Five games left. I can't wait, Dave. 2:00:32.280 --> 2:00:34.840 You never know in the National Football League every week, 2:00:35.480 --> 2:00:38.400 just get after it, play your best, don't take anything 2:00:38.480 --> 2:00:41.720 for granted. Just take it one game at the time. 2:00:41.720 --> 2:00:43.000 As the old scene goes. 2:00:42.880 --> 2:00:45.240 We are set to do that. Thanks for hanging out 2:00:45.280 --> 2:00:48.080 with us tonight. Let's do it again one week from tonight. 2:00:48.160 --> 2:00:49.960 Thanks to Jeff Hobson for hanging out with us. That 2:00:50.120 --> 2:00:52.560 was good stuff tonight. Really enjoyed it. This has been 2:00:52.600 --> 2:00:55.920 Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen 2:00:56.040 --> 2:00:57.680 thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 2:00:59.040 --> 2:01:02.400 This was Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network. Pay 2:01:02.480 --> 2:01:05.280 Core pay Corp Is proud to be the official HR 2:01:05.440 --> 2:01:09.680 software provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. Ulti Viper LTI Viper, 2:01:09.960 --> 2:01:13.680 the official WiFi and Internet provider of US Cincinnati Bengals. 2:01:13.920 --> 2:01:18.520 This is seven hundred WLW, the home of the fest 2:01:18.720 --> 2:01:19.760 Bengals coverage.