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Speaker 2: you and on Allen this and so many other topics
Speaker 2: is Liz Bonus, the medical health reporter of WKRC Channel twelve.
Speaker 2: We twelve stands for news. Liz Bonus, Welcome again to
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. How do you like my analysis
Speaker 2: and the bengals chances in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Hey, I believe in miracles to.
Speaker 2: You, Yes, I do believe in miracles. If that happens.
Speaker 2: That would be a miracle, but they have less than
Speaker 2: a one percent chance. It's zero point zero two, so
Speaker 2: it's possible. But what's the other night I'm watching you?
Speaker 2: Of course I watch you as much as I can,
Speaker 2: and you're doing this topic very close to Tony Bender's prostate,
Speaker 2: and that is that there's something going on in prostate
Speaker 2: health with AI. And this is for men, not women
Speaker 2: or women who identify as men I guess that have prostates
Speaker 2: and as a consequence that the treatment for prostate enlargement
Speaker 2: and prostate cancer is changing fundamentally. Explain that to the
Speaker 2: American people. Everyone that's got a prostate, you better listen.
Speaker 3: You know, there are some thought that fifty percent of
Speaker 3: us have prostates. We should be talking more about them.
Speaker 3: But you guys are really shy about talking about this
Speaker 3: stuff that impacts everything from sexual function to a whole
Speaker 3: lot more. So we're not going to be shy. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk to you a little bit about what's
Speaker 3: going on. Two different things you mentioned there. One is
Speaker 3: benign prostate hyperplasia, which is it gets too big and
Speaker 3: it makes you peel all night. The other is prostate
Speaker 3: cancer and the biggest breakthrough that we've seen is that
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence now can customize your care especially with pretty
Speaker 3: much many types of imaging, but in prostate cancer. It's
Speaker 3: now being used in the Tristate. Our friends at the
Speaker 3: Urology Group some of the first in the region to
Speaker 3: take a care scan that you do before you have
Speaker 3: a treatment plan in radiation, and normally what happens is
Speaker 3: that that takes a couple of weeks and then your
Speaker 3: body will sort of come in and it'll adjust, meaning
Speaker 3: you know, your bladder's a little full or your bowels
Speaker 3: a little full, and that can stir off some of
Speaker 3: those results like you're getting zapped and they want to
Speaker 3: zap you precisely. Well, Now with AI, what they'll do
Speaker 3: is they have you lay down on the radiation machine
Speaker 3: and the imaging itself. AI will adapt essentially your cat
Speaker 3: scan to what your bladder and bowel looks like that day,
Speaker 3: which means when they zap you, they're getting the stuff
Speaker 3: you need them to get and not the outside stuff
Speaker 3: around it. Because if you talk to guys, they are
Speaker 3: terrified not of getting you know, their PSA and the
Speaker 3: process can't do it. They're terrified that like we're going
Speaker 3: to lose sexual function, we're gonna be ping on ourselves,
Speaker 3: which is a legitimate concern. You're much more worried about
Speaker 3: the side effects. Well, now AI in medicine is helping
Speaker 3: to take care of that, because when you precisely only
Speaker 3: hit the target, you leave those other organs alone. What
Speaker 3: do you think of that?
Speaker 2: I love it because I go to neurology group, beginning
Speaker 2: with doctor Allan Cordell. Now I'm with Patrick Hertz, and
Speaker 2: as a consequence, he has me on flow max. I
Speaker 2: think Tony's on flow max because as men get older,
Speaker 2: and thank god, whether it's your dad, your grandfather, what
Speaker 2: you want men to get older. And as you get older,
Speaker 2: the prosta is like a tree, it keeps getting more
Speaker 2: rings around it with pressures, you know, the flow of
Speaker 2: urine getting up two or three times the night's no good.
Speaker 2: And so but the fear men have a fear of
Speaker 2: having things stuck in them. I don't care if it's
Speaker 2: urology or if it's the bow, you know, having a colonoscopy.
Speaker 4: Those things men don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: I don't thank women want to do it either, but
Speaker 2: men really don't want to do it. And so I
Speaker 2: can't tell how many. A couple friends of mine have
Speaker 2: bowel cancer, which is terrible. A few of the friends
Speaker 2: of mine have had prostay cancer, which is more treatable,
Speaker 2: But men don't want to go to the doctor for
Speaker 2: these purposes. As a woman type person, can you tell me?
Speaker 3: You know, I think some of it is the invincible thing,
Speaker 3: don't you. Yes, I mean, I just think it makes
Speaker 3: us vulnerable. And guys, we were just raised. The guy
Speaker 3: is not vulnerable when we talk about this stuff all
Speaker 3: the time. So you know, we'll kind of an advantage.
Speaker 3: We'll learn about the new treatments and whatnot. But you
Speaker 3: should know that even if it's not prostate cancer, there's
Speaker 3: a second thing neurologies group is doing on the I
Speaker 3: have to get up and pee all night and it's
Speaker 3: called prostate artery embolization. Oh and I got to watch
Speaker 3: It's really cool. I got to watch them like inject
Speaker 3: these beads. I know you said you don't like stuff
Speaker 3: stuck in you, but this is actually this is actually
Speaker 3: a liquid full of teeny when beats and if they
Speaker 3: can find the right blood vessels that go around the
Speaker 3: prostate area, the inject these little beads into them, and
Speaker 3: they essentially eventually cut off the blood supply which is
Speaker 3: feeding the prostate getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and
Speaker 3: pretty soon it just shrivels up. I know that doesn't
Speaker 3: sound right, but you do want it to just rill
Speaker 3: and it shrivels up enough that you will stop having
Speaker 3: that kind of pressure the enlarged prostates, it shrinks and
Speaker 3: you stop peeing all night. How's that?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: One of our advertisers I should not mention his name,
Speaker 2: so I will not without his permission, had that exactly
Speaker 2: done about six months ago, and he said it changed
Speaker 2: his life for the better. He was getting up four
Speaker 2: or five six times a night, couldn't sleep. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he had that exact procedure done Eurology Group.
Speaker 2: And guess what, he's now afraid he can sleep all night,
Speaker 2: which is important.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Secondly, let's talk about ozempic. So many men and women
Speaker 2: are on these exotic drugs ozempik to lose weight. It
Speaker 2: was perceived to be a drug for some other purpose,
Speaker 2: just like viagra was perceived for some other purpose. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, it helps certain other areas of life
Speaker 2: to stand up tall and proud and so with Flomax
Speaker 2: that helped me a lot. But now we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about ozempik. Explain in general, ozempik off someone's overweight,
Speaker 2: what happens. Then ozempik for sex, which is Tony Bender's interest.
Speaker 2: Explain this to me.
Speaker 3: Well, I won't say that we are using ozembic for sex.
Speaker 3: I will tell you that there are side effects. Now
Speaker 3: we call ozembic penis and ozembic baton, and that might
Speaker 3: influence sex. So let's start with what ozempic or wagov
Speaker 3: or zep bound semaglue tide is what they're called by generics.
Speaker 3: These are drugs that you inject into the abdomen, and
Speaker 3: they're working on a pill. By the way, it's going
Speaker 3: to be available very soon, if it isn't already. Where
Speaker 3: it delays the gastric emptying, so you eat your lunch
Speaker 3: and rather than it's just kind of going through you
Speaker 3: and digesting at a normal pace, it sits in the
Speaker 3: lower end testine for a while, and because of that,
Speaker 3: you feel less hungry and you eat less and lose weight.
Speaker 3: And that's a different concept than the pill helps me
Speaker 3: lose weight. You lose weight because you eat less, and
Speaker 3: you eat less because you're not hungry, so you can
Speaker 3: eat around these things. Trust me, not everybody loses weight.
Speaker 3: But you're right. They were developed originally to bring your
Speaker 3: blood sugars down. We've now found they help bring weight down,
Speaker 3: help bring blood pressure down, might help your kidneys, might
Speaker 3: use your risk for certain cancers. There's all kinds of things.
Speaker 3: But keep in mind that when stuff is sitting in
Speaker 3: the gut, there's these little bacteria that we have. We
Speaker 3: call them the gut microbiomes and whatnot, and there's, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's some thought that when you mess with those, you
Speaker 3: mess with a lot of stuff, like everything from brain
Speaker 3: signaling to your ability and desire to even have sex.
Speaker 3: How do you like that.
Speaker 2: In your belly keep you from wanting to enjoy sex?
Speaker 2: I think a little worms a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know. That's not a pleasant look.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, And that's sort of what they are.
Speaker 3: There's a very we're you know, we're fearfully and wonderfully made.
Speaker 3: There's a delicate balance in our gut, and when you
Speaker 3: mess with the balance, there's some thought that you mess
Speaker 3: with the bacteria in your body. And for women it's
Speaker 3: a real thing. They call it odempic vagina and it
Speaker 3: will actually mess with the bacteria which then gives you
Speaker 3: like yeast infections and all the kind of things that
Speaker 3: don't really lend to intimacy. Right, So it's a thing,
Speaker 3: and they say, if you are on this, you should
Speaker 3: tell your doctor if you're noticing things like more yeast infections.
Speaker 3: But also you can address some of that. Now, there's
Speaker 3: a couple of different kinds of over the counter supplements,
Speaker 3: like they call them pro anthosyanins, which are like they
Speaker 3: promote there's stuff that's read in cherries and it's like
Speaker 3: a good bacteria that can help you know, sort of
Speaker 3: the bowel remove some of that stuff. Okay, yes, that
Speaker 3: you don't want.
Speaker 2: So women might have a choice of losing weight or
Speaker 2: having sex. I think most women would say I'd rather
Speaker 2: lose weight than have sex.
Speaker 4: Am I right or wrong about that?
Speaker 3: You know? One of my girlfriends said, when you lose weight,
Speaker 3: you have more sex. So I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go let's talk about let's talk let's talk
Speaker 2: about ozepig long term. Some have said to me, look
Speaker 2: at Fenn Fenn, which supposedly was gonna be a great thing.
Speaker 2: Then about ten years later we found out that have
Speaker 2: destroyed heart valves or there was medical How do we
Speaker 2: know ozempic are these other exotic drugs are not having
Speaker 2: an effect we won't know about for ten years.
Speaker 3: Well, they've actually been in development for that long, believe
Speaker 3: it or not. I've been watching this research for a
Speaker 3: long time. So for more than a decade we have
Speaker 3: watched that. But I think we are seeing some side
Speaker 3: effects we've never seen before. The ozempic vagina and ozempic
Speaker 3: penis is a whole new set of a whole new
Speaker 3: level of things we never talked about. But if you
Speaker 3: think about it, just delaying gas or emptying isn't going
Speaker 3: to have the same effect as like a fen fen
Speaker 3: that shut down your lung. Now we don't know for
Speaker 3: sure what happens when you do leave stuff in the gut,
Speaker 3: like could we later see higher risks of other things? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that you know, we I mean, And there's everything is
Speaker 3: benefit versus risk. But if you talk to a lot
Speaker 3: of people who are taking it, if you're you know,
Speaker 3: nearing three hundred pounds and your doctor says your heart's
Speaker 3: not going to carry this for much longer, losing the
Speaker 3: weight gives you a benefit that maybe at the time
Speaker 3: greater than the risk. Always got a weigh that. But
Speaker 3: by the way, Ozmpic penis is not a real thing
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 4: You know, Explain that to Tony Bender. Explain that please.
Speaker 3: They started calling it that because these guys would lose
Speaker 3: the belly the penis looked larger, okay, and so they
Speaker 3: were like, I'm not penis, Like, no.
Speaker 4: That's a good not a good thing, not a good thing.
Speaker 2: You lose your belly, pleasure get uncle Charlie, gets a
Speaker 2: little more, a little more protrusion, shall we say. So
Speaker 2: it's a double whammia in a good way. You lose
Speaker 2: your belly and your thing gets a little bit bigger.
Speaker 3: It appears that way. It's not necessarily true. I mean,
Speaker 3: you lose your belly, a lot of things get easier,
Speaker 3: like you can see your feet, you know. But what
Speaker 3: you know, it's really interesting what you just call it,
Speaker 3: mister Charlie or something. I was working on a story
Speaker 3: when the eed drugs first came out in the newsroom
Speaker 3: and I was trying to, you know, figure out how
Speaker 3: to make it appropriate for the family audience at four
Speaker 3: or five PM. And I'm like, hey, does anyone have
Speaker 3: another word for penis? And let me tell you thea
Speaker 3: I have, like sixteen people pop up, mister Weekley, you
Speaker 3: know whatever. There's all kinds of fish, Charlie. What is
Speaker 3: the names?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What's up with the names? And you guys with all
Speaker 3: that stuff? You know, like you know, girls don't name
Speaker 3: their naty part for some reason. You guys all have
Speaker 3: a name.
Speaker 4: You may call it mss kitty, but I call it
Speaker 4: mister Charlie.
Speaker 2: So, so getting back to getting getting back to zempic
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: You have to inject it, correct, You have to inject it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm watching the CEO of of Lily the other
Speaker 2: day on CNBC. He talked about a pill form which
Speaker 2: many people would find more acceptable. Was that coming down
Speaker 2: the road?
Speaker 3: It really is. And actually what's really interesting is some
Speaker 3: of the research to do that was done here in
Speaker 3: the Tri State. There's a couple of different as you know,
Speaker 3: we have some rather large research organizations here that do
Speaker 3: great work, and some of those have been testing the
Speaker 3: semaglu type pill. And it's supposed to work in the
Speaker 3: same way. You have to obviously adjust dosing because the
Speaker 3: reason you inject is so that it goes right into
Speaker 3: the area that you want shift to adjust dosing. But
Speaker 3: the pill is showing positive results, and the number one
Speaker 3: thing that keeps people from selecting the injection are going
Speaker 3: on is they don't like shots. I have a feeling.
Speaker 3: I mean, right now about twelve percent of people are on,
Speaker 3: so one in eight they think is on the ozebic injectable.
Speaker 3: So think about the number of people that are going
Speaker 3: to go on the pill when you can actually pop that.
Speaker 3: There's some people saying they're selling it now. It's rolling
Speaker 3: out in limited doses, but probably by the end of
Speaker 3: twenty six we're going to see it on a more
Speaker 3: regular thing, and I think it'll regularly be prescribed. I'm
Speaker 3: like you, though, man, I think you out of a
Speaker 3: million people on it before you see what's going on.
Speaker 3: So I would still approach with caution, and I would
Speaker 3: still tell you you lose weight because you eat less.
Speaker 3: It's not like a magic fat burning pill. You got
Speaker 3: stuff sitting in the gut delayed that so you don't
Speaker 3: feel it's hungry. And that's great if it helps you
Speaker 3: eat less. But you know what all these people are
Speaker 3: doing now is they're taking the drugs they want. Charlie
Speaker 3: to look better and they don't exercise, don't change their diet. Well,
Speaker 3: what happens then when you go off that?
Speaker 2: I see this statistic, Yeah, I talk about that lits
Speaker 2: when you go off that. I've seen statistics that it
Speaker 2: has negative consequences for someone's muscular structure, et cetera.
Speaker 4: So at some point you go off of it, and
Speaker 4: then what happens.
Speaker 3: It may be as high as ninety five percent of
Speaker 3: the people regain the weight plus ten percent they like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And part of that is people that exercise may have
Speaker 3: as much as doubles the success rate keeping weight off
Speaker 3: compared to people that don't. And it's not because like
Speaker 3: you really burn so much, so many more calories exercising.
Speaker 3: If you think about what exercise does, it builds muscle,
Speaker 3: and when a muscle is fit, it uses up more
Speaker 3: energy throughout the day. So when you're sitting around doing nothing,
Speaker 3: you're still burning more calories. Okay, but also you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I dragged my butt
Speaker 3: up and get on the look or get on the
Speaker 3: treadmill at four in the morning every day because it
Speaker 3: helps my mental health. I mean, like I want to
Speaker 3: hurt people coming in if I don't do that, and
Speaker 3: I think there is a therapy to that that is
Speaker 3: the cheapest therapy you will ever find, and in the meantime,
Speaker 3: then your body's getting a benefit. Well why do you overeat?
Speaker 3: You overeat generally because you're like pissed off or stressed
Speaker 3: out or frustrated, or it tastes good. And if you
Speaker 3: don't have another coping mechanism, which is what exercise can
Speaker 3: help you with, you don't ever really have a way
Speaker 3: to sort of work against that. So you stop taking
Speaker 3: the drug, you feel hungry again, and you start picking out.
Speaker 3: So there's one hundred reasons to incorporate, you know, regular
Speaker 3: exercise and some diet changes amount.
Speaker 2: And I'm told these drugs are extremely expensive, but they're
Speaker 2: coming down if it goes to a pill form, wouldn't
Speaker 2: that I can see five.
Speaker 4: Or ten years all of us on these things.
Speaker 2: I can see all all of us on one pill
Speaker 2: with all of these things in it, right within five
Speaker 2: or ten years.
Speaker 3: Well, so they thought that about like statins, like maybe
Speaker 3: we should put them in the world for your heart,
Speaker 3: you know, but there will always be people that will
Speaker 3: have side effects, so who knows. But one thing I
Speaker 3: do think is that. You know, we talked about the AI.
Speaker 3: The DNA testing is going to start when you're like
Speaker 3: an infant now, or maybe when you get to be
Speaker 3: an adult, and they'll be able to tell you, well,
Speaker 3: you're predisposed for obesity or you're predisposed for heart disease,
Speaker 3: and they probably will start putting us on some of
Speaker 3: these preventative you know, for preventive purposes. And I think
Speaker 3: you're going to see a prescription used for a whole
Speaker 3: different purpose. But yeah, if you're looking at like medical
Speaker 3: stocks for investment, these would be good ones. Probably absolutely.
Speaker 2: If twelve percent of I'm not on it yet, you're
Speaker 2: skinny and good shape, don't have to be on it.
Speaker 2: I can see at some point someone's saying, I could
Speaker 2: lose thirty forty fifty pounds with little or no side effects.
Speaker 2: I'll take Ozembic has this side effect of helping Miss
Speaker 2: Kitty and also Charlie, and it's a consequence. Everybody's happy.
Speaker 2: And I can see in one pill having everything in
Speaker 2: one pill. Low cholesterol, maybe high blood pressure, it might
Speaker 2: be for weight purposes, it might be for liver or
Speaker 2: whatever it is. It'll be within five or ten years
Speaker 2: of one pill for everything. Is that where we're headed.
Speaker 4: M Maybe not.
Speaker 3: I think there'll be one pill for weight loss. No,
Speaker 3: this is specific purposes. But you know what's really interesting
Speaker 3: about this is I've read some really interesting research that
Speaker 3: when you take away hunger, you lose your zest for
Speaker 3: certain things, like you mention, like the sexual intimacy. There's
Speaker 3: some people who say, like, I just kind of didn't
Speaker 3: really want to do anything if I didn't want to eat.
Speaker 3: You forget how much like hunger plays a role in
Speaker 3: going to dinner and being excited about seeing someone. And
Speaker 3: I wonder, Yeah, drink drink and wine, which leads to
Speaker 3: more intimacy. Yeah, there's some thought that this is going
Speaker 3: to influence or this can influence your life in ways
Speaker 3: that you never really thought about. And if you're if
Speaker 3: food has been like your passion and now it's not,
Speaker 3: you're going to notice things like that. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that's all bad, but it's fascinating to watch all
Speaker 3: the things that happen when you start altering the guts
Speaker 3: like you talk about, Charlie, but the gun alfors the brain,
Speaker 3: and the brain is a powerful organ, let me tell you.
Speaker 3: And when you start messing with that, and you lose
Speaker 3: your passion for food and life and dust and wanting
Speaker 3: to do stuff. I don't know if we're all going
Speaker 3: to want to be on that or not be like yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's where like people who said they tried marijuana,
Speaker 3: it just made them not want to do anything right.
Speaker 4: You know, you want to eat a bunch of pizza
Speaker 4: and eat popcorn. And I don't know what the ELL's going.
Speaker 2: And we don't know the long term effects of marijuana
Speaker 2: for teenagers. We have no idea in thirty years what
Speaker 2: we're going to deal with. But list Bonus, we got
Speaker 2: to run. You're the best at what you do, and
Speaker 2: you're a wonderful guest. More importantly, you're like a encyclopedia
Speaker 2: of health. And I think Channel twelve should double your
Speaker 2: salary and cut your ears in half.
Speaker 4: Do you agree?
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I'm going to play this little snippet
Speaker 3: for my boss.
Speaker 2: You tell them right now, tell them to give me
Speaker 2: a call. I'll set them straight. Liz Bonus, All.
Speaker 3: Right, good deal, Thank you you and yours.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Thank you very much,
Speaker 2: Liz bon God bless you.
Speaker 3: Thanks with more.
Speaker 2: Let's continue Wow, I never thought about Charlie and Miss
Speaker 2: Kitty now in any other way. Let's continue with more
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