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Speaker 2: By Billy cunning Him the Great America. Welcome this glory.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday afternoon in the Tri State. Nasty weather coming.

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are in the playoffs. That's the only hope

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Speaker 2: you and on Allen this and so many other topics

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Speaker 2: is Liz Bonus, the medical health reporter of WKRC Channel twelve.

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Speaker 2: We twelve stands for news. Liz Bonus, Welcome again to

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Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. How do you like my analysis

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Speaker 2: and the bengals chances in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I believe in miracles to.

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Speaker 2: You, Yes, I do believe in miracles. If that happens.

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Speaker 2: That would be a miracle, but they have less than

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Speaker 2: a one percent chance. It's zero point zero two, so

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Speaker 2: it's possible. But what's the other night I'm watching you?

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Speaker 2: Of course I watch you as much as I can,

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Speaker 2: and you're doing this topic very close to Tony Bender's prostate,

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Speaker 2: and that is that there's something going on in prostate

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Speaker 2: health with AI. And this is for men, not women

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Speaker 2: or women who identify as men I guess that have prostates

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Speaker 2: and as a consequence that the treatment for prostate enlargement

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Speaker 2: American people. Everyone that's got a prostate, you better listen.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are some thought that fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: us have prostates. We should be talking more about them.

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Speaker 3: But you guys are really shy about talking about this

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Speaker 3: stuff that impacts everything from sexual function to a whole

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Speaker 3: lot more. So we're not going to be shy. We're

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Speaker 3: going on. Two different things you mentioned there. One is

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Speaker 3: benign prostate hyperplasia, which is it gets too big and

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Speaker 3: cancer and the biggest breakthrough that we've seen is that

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Speaker 3: artificial intelligence now can customize your care especially with pretty

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Speaker 3: much many types of imaging, but in prostate cancer. It's

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Speaker 3: Urology Group some of the first in the region to

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Speaker 3: those results like you're getting zapped and they want to

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Speaker 3: zap you precisely. Well, Now with AI, what they'll do

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Speaker 3: It's really cool. I got to watch them like inject

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Secondly, let's talk about ozempic. So many men and women

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Speaker 2: just like viagra was perceived for some other purpose. All

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Speaker 2: talk about ozempik. Explain in general, ozempik off someone's overweight,

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Speaker 2: Explain this to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I won't say that we are using ozembic for sex.

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Speaker 3: we call ozembic penis and ozembic baton, and that might

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Speaker 3: or zep bound semaglue tide is what they're called by generics.

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Speaker 3: These are drugs that you inject into the abdomen, and

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Speaker 3: they're working on a pill. By the way, it's going

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Speaker 3: And that's a different concept than the pill helps me

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Speaker 3: But you're right. They were developed originally to bring your

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Speaker 3: use your risk for certain cancers. There's all kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: there's some thought that when you mess with those, you

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Speaker 3: How do you like that.

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Speaker 2: In your belly keep you from wanting to enjoy sex?

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Speaker 2: I think a little worms a little bit.

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Speaker 4: You know. That's not a pleasant look.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, And that's sort of what they are.

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Speaker 3: There's a very we're you know, we're fearfully and wonderfully made.

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Speaker 3: There's a delicate balance in our gut, and when you

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Speaker 3: a real thing. They call it odempic vagina and it

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Speaker 3: But also you can address some of that. Now, there's

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Speaker 2: So women might have a choice of losing weight or

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Speaker 3: You know? One of my girlfriends said, when you lose weight,

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Speaker 2: about ozepig long term. Some have said to me, look

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Speaker 3: Well, they've actually been in development for that long, believe

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Speaker 3: it or not. I've been watching this research for a

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Speaker 3: watched that. But I think we are seeing some side

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Speaker 3: think about it, just delaying gas or emptying isn't going

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Speaker 3: sure what happens when you do leave stuff in the gut,

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Speaker 3: like could we later see higher risks of other things? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that you know, we I mean, And there's everything is

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Speaker 3: benefit versus risk. But if you talk to a lot

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Speaker 3: greater than the risk. Always got a weigh that. But

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Speaker 3: by the way, Ozmpic penis is not a real thing

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Speaker 4: You know, Explain that to Tony Bender. Explain that please.

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Speaker 3: So there's one hundred reasons to incorporate, you know, regular

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Speaker 2: And I'm told these drugs are extremely expensive, but they're

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Speaker 2: If twelve percent of I'm not on it yet, you're

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Speaker 2: I'll take Ozembic has this side effect of helping Miss

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