1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: So what was your reaction to Davis webnus Sean Payton 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: announced he's gonna be a play caller. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was the number one topic. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 3: I think it was one of the biggest stories, honestly 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 3: of yesterday with so many different head coaches and general 6 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 3: managers going and I talked to a number of them, 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: had him on my set, and I had George on 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 3: my set later, and I think I'll start with that. 9 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: When George and I were talking about it, I thought 10 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: he brought up a really interesting point about it, where 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: George Payton goes, what does this tell us? This is 12 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: one of the best play callers we've seen in recent 13 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: memory in the NFL, and he's looking to make this 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: move to put a the team first in terms of winning. 15 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: Where they're at right now with the roster they have 16 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: a super Bowl caliber team, and b he. 17 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: Goes shows you what he thinks that the Davis and to. 18 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: Me that those two are paramount because we know the 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: makeup of Sean right, we know how Sewn is wired. 20 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: And I think the biggest part of knowing how Sewan 21 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: is wired is Chase Daniel and I do a show 22 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: on the athletic Chase was insistent on that show. 23 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Yes he was, no way Sean Payton is giving up 24 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: play calling. 25 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: This is a guy that has been in the room 26 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: Sean for years, knows him, maybe as good as any player, 27 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: and they have an unbelievable relationship. And he just kept 28 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: saying I can't see him giving up play calling, and 29 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, man, this guy is special. 30 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: And then so then the third part I would bring 31 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: up is this when he called the plays for that 32 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: I don't know which was it the third preseason, third 33 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: preseason game. 34 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: I spent some time with Stidy. 35 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: At his locker after that game, and Jarrett was just like, dude, 36 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: he was incredible. 37 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean. 38 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: He goes it was like he's been calling games his 39 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: whole life, and it was like when he started the 40 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: play call, I was like, that's that's the right play call. 41 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: Like there was just a flow and a feel and 42 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: a connectivity to the quarterback that was unbelievable for just 43 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: one I saw him last night actually and got to 44 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: chat with him a little bit. He stoked obviously super 45 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: super super jacked about it. I would say the other 46 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: part is I'm interested to see what his voice is 47 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: now doing things like this because he has a larger say, essentially. 48 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: But the part that was fascinating when I kind of 49 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: dub on that, Bran was like, oh no, his voice 50 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: has been massive since he got here. So that I 51 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: think puts it full circle back to why this happened, 52 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: because they've been really on. 53 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: This for three years now and now it's just time. 54 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Do you think this is in some kind of response 55 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: to the interest that Davis has received from around the league. 56 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: I think. 57 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: That's a really good question, because the interest is not 58 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: to be an offensive court. 59 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: The interest is to be a head coach, exactly right. 60 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: And so when I talk to people in Buffalo after 61 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: they were making their final decision, they were blown away 62 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: by Davis. 63 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 2: They thought he was outstanding. 64 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: I was told by multiple people that interviewed him that 65 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: he is ready to be. 66 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: A head coach right now. But then they also told me, which. 67 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: Was I thought important, that they believe another year with 68 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: John Payton is not the worst thing in the world 69 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: either for his coaching journey, And they mentioned that specifically, 70 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: like being in Denver for another year is big for 71 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: his coaching journey, not being an OC because he probably 72 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: could have gotten that opportunity in some other places. So 73 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: I do think there's there's a fixture of why he 74 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: was here and why he wanted to come back. I 75 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: don't know if they needed to give him play calling, 76 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: but it almost feels that way in a sense. 77 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Right. 78 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: What I'm really looking at is is this going to 79 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: be a one year thing? Is it go back to 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Sean after this year? If Davis gets a head coaching job, 81 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: because everybody's going to say that he's right near the 82 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: top of this list coming out maybe in next next cycle. 83 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: I just think we're really going to look at this 84 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: really hard this entire year. 85 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: But I think they got their guy. I mean, every 86 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: interview he had Raiders he crushed. 87 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: I think if Clinton didn't get the job, I think 88 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: there's a realistic chance that he could have gotten that 89 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: Raiders job. 90 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: And just yeah, it just fit. 91 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: We all kind of saw it coming in a sense, 92 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: but I don't know if that was directly the reason. 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: I think Davis also knows how he can grow here, 94 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: like grow it's specifically in Denver, not just to play 95 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: caller somewhere. 96 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I completely agree. I think another year with bow 97 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Nicks the opportunity will bolster his resume. Ultimately we come 98 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: to this thing, all right, the last one I half 99 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: for you because I know you're a very busy man. 100 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: So when you get to like you get. 101 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: A sense of the Broncos having a lot of success 102 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: last year, is this something that is built to continue 103 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: even into this upcoming year? 104 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Schedule is gonna be a little tougher. 105 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: But when you get the sense of talking to people, 106 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: do they think that the Broncos are doing as legit 107 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: or is there a sense of like, I got to 108 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: see it another year. 109 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: I think there's an odd got to see it another 110 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 3: year and no slight to what they did because I 111 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: think you remember what Sean said on the podium, right, 112 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: He's like he almost said like it would behoove me 113 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: not to understand how a lot of these games went. 114 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter. 115 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Right. 116 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: He made a point to say that that some of 117 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: those games could swing back the other way very easily. 118 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: There are people I've talked to around the league that 119 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: are picking the Broncos as a team to take a 120 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: step back. I think they're picking the Patriots as well 121 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: to be a team to take a step back. The 122 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: way they both won a lot of games, the way 123 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: the AFC fell in their favor. 124 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Now there's nothing against any of those things. You got 125 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: to win those games. 126 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 3: And I think the Broncos, if bo Nick doesn't get hurt, 127 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: we're going to be in the super Bowl, and then 128 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: who knows what happens. But every year is different, every 129 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: year changes. I do think you have a very forward 130 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: thinking general manager that prepares. 131 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: For what's next very very well. 132 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: You have and this is talking to people all this 133 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: week as well, like you have unbelievable ed rushers, where 134 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: like I was talking to a GM from another team 135 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: who was like, those contracts are awesome team wise, right, 136 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: like just outstanding team contracts, They're like and the same 137 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: GM was like, in Patzertan's contract is like reasonable right now, right, 138 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna have to get Bow a contract. 139 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: You're probably gonna have to redo a deal with Pat 140 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: in the near future as well. So those are on 141 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: the horizon. But you've built it really, really well. And 142 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: George has this mindset and we we talked about it 143 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: yesterday of just making sure things are so staggered across 144 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: the board at positions that he's never dealing with contracts 145 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: at the same position multiple multiple times. That He's making 146 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: sure that he reloads, like, don't be surprised if they 147 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: look O line like. 148 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: They were healthy. 149 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: They're getting older, like reload there. He just has a 150 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: very good feel for filling it out. You still have 151 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: the quarterback, you still have the coach, and you still 152 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: have a d defensive coordinator. For some reason, cannot get 153 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: them to some reason, cannot get a job as a 154 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: head coach. 155 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why, but I. 156 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: Hate to say this, Like what if Vance Joseph becomes 157 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: like the Steve Spagnolo hack that Andy Reid has where 158 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm just not going to worry about one side of 159 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: the ball. 160 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: We have a. 161 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: Head coach, one of the best coaches of football, running one 162 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: side of our ball, and for some reason can't get 163 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: a job. It sucks for VJ. And I love VJ. 164 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: It's great for Broncos countries. I write you almost have 165 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: to say it that way, just like selfishly, as a 166 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: fan of the Broncos, you would say, well, this is awesome. 167 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: You can't get a job. It stinks for him because 168 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: he deserves another crack. But these things are in place 169 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: for you know, a continued run of success. 170 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: For sure. 171 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: I just think, you know, having the same things fall 172 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: that it did this past year might be hard, but 173 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: who knows. It be year three of Bnicks in the system, 174 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: so maybe you get even better quarterback play anyways, you 175 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: know what I mean that level, you know, So, I 176 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: just think it is going to be a team that 177 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: is in a very competitive AFC where there were some 178 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: teams that took steps back that usually don't see how 179 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: do you compete with Cincinnati and Baltimore and Buffalo and 180 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: you know, Patrick burs we have the Chargers lost both tackles, 181 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: like you know, I mean. 182 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Everything is there got you and I can always catch 183 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: those breaks, no doubt. Ay Man, you're absolutely killing on 184 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: the athletic Appreciate it, brother, Appreciate you so much for