1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Mac. I consider you smart, okay, and smart enough. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: I did pretty well in the SATs. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Resourceful more than anything else. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: I'm a good problem solver. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: I saw on social media, and maybe this has been 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: going around for a while. This is the first time 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: I have seen this question. Okay, you might have already 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: stumbled into it. You might already have a complete theorem 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: ready for me to go. I saw it on the 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Patriot social media. They asked the players this, I will 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: now ask you this, all right, what color is a mirror? 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: What color is a mirror? So mirrors can be any 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: color because they're just mirrors, are just reflective, right, I'd 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: say the primary color of a mirror. 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: Is silver ish silver. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say silver ish or or like a faded silver, 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: because it was true silver, you wouldn't really be able 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: to see. But it's definitely silver ish, Like if you're 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: off to the side of a mirror, it looks and 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: you're not really seeing reflection. It has a tinge of 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: silver to it. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: So how many crayons deep into a box of crayolas 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: do you think we would have to get for us 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: to then get to mirror as that really soft off 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: silver color. 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: But it's also like a dark silver. 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: It's like a cold you're saying dark now, you just 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: said soft a second ago. 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: No, I know, it's like a tinge. So give me 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: like a cobalt with white. So it's still a form 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: of gray and silver. But it's like it's darker than gray. Yeah, 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: it's it's in the it's in that in that spectrum. 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: E think like one hundred and sixty four box or 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: do we have to go like two hundred to get 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to mirror? 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: You should send an email to Krayle or to come 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: out with the you know what, you have photoshop right, 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: This might be good for the original Billy d to 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: take a photo of a mirror, bring it into photoshop 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: obviously not. 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh, and then see what color it pops up to, 42 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: what color it comes to. This is why I ask you, 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: because you're a problem solver, you're resourceful. 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 45 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Whereas I was a sit back going, one of the 46 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: players said green, and that makes sense to me. Now, 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the thing. Every color that they said. 48 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: I stepped back and then said, maybe it is blue. 49 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, No, no, for sure not. It has 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: to be in that in that spectrum somewhere between gray 51 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: and silver. 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Comment down below, what color is a mirror? One? 53 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: Good? 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Three? Yeah, cho three, King of Queen MARYL. Street Entertainment. 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm Goo and I'm Met and we are the Mac 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: and Goo program. 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: Nah nah, yeah, is that how you table tennis? 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this because you were someone who 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: was very good at not sports, so sports, but they 60 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: weren't real sports sports. I'm not saying it's not a 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: sports adjacent thank you. 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: I'm good at mini games. I'm good at ship mini games. Yeah, 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: table tennis. 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: You were good at table tennis, right. 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: No, what it's stunning to me, stunning to me that 66 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: I am not good at table tennis because. 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: To you, you just blew my mind because I'm really 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: good at stupid. Knowing you as a child. Yeah, you 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: were good at like kickball and ship. 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: Everything that's around sports that someone one might argue is 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: a sport. Occasionally, I'm good at that stuff. Table tennis, 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm not. 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how good you were at pool, but 74 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: I bet you were great at bumper pool. 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: I love bumper pool. I'm better at real tennis than 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I am at table tennis. 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: What's your grunt? 78 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: Like? 79 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Ah, oh, that's too much. 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: My father fantastic at table tennis, which of course we 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: call peing. 82 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that coming. 83 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad is my dad. My dad, like me, 84 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: is usually pretty good at dumb shit like table tennis. 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: The next time you guys play, you're gonna call them supreme. 86 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: You can have that one goode. 87 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time. We grew up 88 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: with a couple people that were very good at wiffle ball, 89 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 2: which I think also operates in the table tennis arena. 90 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: My dad. I've never beaten my dad at woffleball really now, yeah, 91 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: but he was, he was in that. I would say 92 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't the most elite at with a ball. I 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: was a tier below because we would I would always lose. 94 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: Torenzi Griz was also very good. But I could compete. 95 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: I could compete with them, you know, I just would 96 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: never really beat them. 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: I only beat Renzy once in my life. 98 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should. You should have a banner for that. 99 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you a banner. 100 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: But to be fair though, like I didn't learn how 101 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: to really pitch until the summer where I had no 102 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: job and then I threw up my shoulder. 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: And also playing on his driveway was not fair because. 104 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: He had a driveway where it ramped up, so you 105 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: really had to work on that rise. 106 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 2: Throw a riser. You were gonna win on that driveway 107 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: home field advantage every. 108 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: Time, exactly. And he threw a wicked riser, throw a frisbee. 109 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how many times I played him. 110 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: You probably played him ten times more than I did. 111 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Yep, almost every day. Yeah, and he beat me every time. 112 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 113 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: It's the definition of definition of insanity. 114 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I think, especially our age group and younger we all 115 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: grew up with someone who was like the A one 116 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: and wiffleball, and everyone knows exactly and remembers that kid forever. 117 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't good at anything as a kid, though, Like 118 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: really thinking about it, I don't think I wanted anything. 119 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: You were good at jackass oriented stuff. 120 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: I was really good at jackass, and my friends didn't 121 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: like that because I would then I would then jackass 122 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: other people and they'd be like, I don't want a 123 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: jackass right now. 124 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: How do we turn jackass into a sport and get 125 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: it on the Oat Show? 126 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I'm psyched about Johnny Knoxville fear Factor. 127 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: I saw a promo for that, because what I like 128 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: about it is that if any of the contestants are like, 129 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: fuck you, I'm not gonna eat the scorpion, you wouldn't 130 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: do it. Knox was like, I already swallowed at all. 131 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I ate it three minutes 132 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: ago while you were talking. 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: It's a great you know, fear factor I think peaked 134 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: and is never gonna get as good as it was 135 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: in two thousand with Joe Rogan. But if it has 136 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: any chance of being really good, Knox Show is a great, 137 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: great person. 138 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: They all live in the house together. 139 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: Now wait, it's a house. 140 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I think there's like a fear factor house. 141 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that. 142 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: Oh you know what I would do? Set up that 143 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: giant hand when you open the door in the handslaps 144 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: you soup the stupid. This is great Marty Supreme talk. 145 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: The soup bit of we men walking through. I was 146 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, I got soup, I got soup whatever, 147 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: and they fucking smash him with the hand and the soup. 148 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Yes peak, all right, Marty Supreme. 149 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Mac Marty Supreme goo uh. In many circles, people are 150 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: calling this the movie of the year. It has a 151 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: chance to win Best Picture. It's lead actor Tim Shallow 152 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: may may win Best Actor. You and I are finally 153 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: talking about it a couple of weeks after it's come out. 154 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: And to be fair, it's not like it's made two 155 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: hundred millions. 156 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: So it made good money. 157 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: It has a twenty four records. 158 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: It has not reached what I think the peak of 159 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: its popularity is gonna be, probably for a month or so, 160 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: once we get into the thick of award season, this 161 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: will be talked about, watched by everybody. Like, I think 162 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: this is the one that everybody will be able to 163 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: dive into without it being too artsy, to crass, too boring. 164 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: It's a bit crass. 165 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: It gets crass on occasion, but it's not like the 166 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: substance is what I'm saying, though, Sure, sure, but I 167 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: think this is one that the general public can jump 168 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: into and not be bored by. 169 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: No, that's fair. And I mean now that we've come 170 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: to know and love the Safti brothers, especially Josh safty here, 171 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: what separates their movies is the pacing, the heartbeat of 172 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: the movies. It's frantic, it's fast, it's quick, and that's 173 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: unnerving and anxious for some people. But I think it 174 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: makes these movies even if you don't like the subject matter, 175 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: it's easier to be bry. 176 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: This one only has I thought a minor anxiety to it, whereas, 177 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: let's put it up against Uncut Gems, that one was 178 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: in edge of your seat. You constantly felt like something 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: terrible was about to happen, and just when they give 180 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: you the carrot of something being great, they say, no, no, no, 181 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: that's actually a shit wrapped in orange. You're eating shit now. 182 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: So yes and no. I feel like thematically in Beef 183 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: for Beat this is a lot like Uncut Gems. There 184 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: is a little more downtime in this, and Uncut Gems 185 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: has maybe more bad people, but I don't know. That's no. 186 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: But I think the characters in this, and the portrayals 187 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: of the characters and the softer speaking characters makes it 188 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: a lot more palatable. 189 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Sure, sure, because I see what you're saying. 190 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: With Uncut Gems. A lot of the complaints was not 191 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: just the anxiety or the unease that the movie made. 192 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: You were like, well, there's too much yell. That's how 193 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: people talk in real life people. Yes, do you ever 194 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: go to a Sunday dinner? 195 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: Goo? Yeah, it almost almost coughed there. Marti Supreme is 196 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: up to fifty eight million dollars worldwide. It is now 197 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: in its third week. In its first week, during that 198 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: limited release week and the holiday week GOO just before 199 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: Christmas and leading up to Christmas, it did make eleven 200 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: point five million. It made thirty million in its second week. 201 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: And this is all domestic, by the way, It's only 202 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: made like two million internationally, so this is US audio. 203 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious how this would do because ping pong is 204 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: a more popular sport in other countries, Like, would this 205 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: movie do well in other countries? 206 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: I think this would be a hard movie because of 207 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: its frantic pace dialogue. Oh yeah yeah, to translate into 208 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: other languages. GOO. This is a rated R epic drama 209 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: and sport movie subgenre of period drama. It is a 210 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: period piece and it has a run time of one 211 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine minutes. There's also some talks here 212 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: of it being in the conversation for best sports movie ever, 213 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 2: and I think that's warranted. 214 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: I think it's warranted. And if you want to say, like, well, 215 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: how do the sports scenes stack up against other sports scenes? 216 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,119 Speaker 1: I think the table tennis scenes in this movie are dynamite. 217 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: I think that they're shot really well, and you're really 218 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: pulled into because you don't know with these scenes of 219 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: like how good is Marty Supreme? Like is he gonna 220 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: win these? So you are pulled into trying to figure 221 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: out which character is gonna win these table tennis matches. 222 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I look at non sexy tennis movie from last year, Challengers, Challengers, 223 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: I hated the tennis scenes in that movie. 224 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: Sure. 225 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: I look at Smashing Machine from this year. I hated 226 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the mixed martial arts scenes in that movie. I thought 227 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: that dragged it down and made it real fucking boring. 228 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: I did that did not happen in this movie, Gou. 229 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: I think the way I would describe this movie to 230 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: try and sell it to someone if they liked Uncut Gems. 231 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: If they didn't, I'm not sure they're gonna like this 232 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: movie either. But if they liked Uncut Gems, I would 233 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: say this movie is Uncut Gems plus Rocky, the threads 234 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: from Rocky that make it an underdog quasi real believable. 235 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: You know, story is injected into Uncut Gems and then 236 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: you get Marty. 237 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Supreme, you say underdog. But if you ask Marty. If 238 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: he's an underdog, what's the answer. 239 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not a perfect comparison, but I think 240 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: it's pulling a lot of thematically from Rocky and the 241 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: audience perceives him as the underdog, you know. So that's 242 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: really where it's coming up. 243 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: Until he starts to play table tennis. I'm curious if 244 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: he actually can play table tennis or if this is 245 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: all just in his mind. 246 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right about that, and that's credit to Shallome. 247 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: But then once he starts doing Globetrotters, I'm like, fuck, 248 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: he should just do this. 249 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: Uh goo on roddy teas right now, ninety four percent 250 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: from the critics, eighty three percent from the audience on Metacritic, 251 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: and eighty nine one of the best Metacritics scores of 252 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: the year. Obviously, the roddy Te's score are very high 253 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: as well. This is written and directed by the aforementioned 254 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Josh Safty sons Benny Safty. Benny Safty did The Smashing Machine. 255 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: They split apart this year. 256 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: He's also going to be acting in The Odyssey. Benny 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: is Yes, Benny, That's what I'm saying. 258 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Benny's the one we've seen on camera a few Timesenheimer 259 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: stays behind the camera happy Gilmore too, and we know 260 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: the safti's from Good Time twenty seventeen, Uncut Gems twenty nineteen, 261 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: Good Times, the Robert Pattinson one that's still not enough 262 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: people have seen. They also did a movie that I 263 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: think I'm gonna watch this week called Heaven Knows What 264 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: from twenty fourteen or fifteen, which was their real first 265 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: big screen take, and I think it has good reviews, 266 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: so I'm sure. I'm sure I'll like it. 267 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Good Time is so good too. 268 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Upcoming is another Sandler movie, the untitled Sandler and Safty 269 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: Brothers Project. So I'm intrigued by that. 270 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: Is it both brothers or just one brother? 271 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: Both? 272 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: Oh, they're both back. 273 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: They're back. 274 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: Are they directing together or is one going to direct 275 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: one act? I'm being serious, like what if one is, Like, 276 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: I'd rather just act in this. 277 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: I think they're both writing during Okay, Okay, good. I 278 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: think it is a good place to start with this conversation, 279 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: to compare it and maybe contrast it to Good Time 280 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: and an cut Jones. 281 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but I also want to with this, like, let's 282 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: have this be the final conversation of comparing it to 283 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: the other ones, because I think this stands on its 284 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: own of you don't need to see the other two, 285 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: you don't need to like the other two to enjoy this. 286 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. Okay, Good Time twenty seventeen 287 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: ninety one percent eighty two percent an eighty Metacritics score, 288 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: so a little bit lower than this movie. Scores wise, 289 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: I do think Marty Supreme is a little bit better, 290 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: but scores wise, it's they're all roughly in the same range. 291 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: That is again similarly similarly beat for beat, but definitely 292 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: a darker film with more bad people than in Marty Supreme. 293 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: Marty Supreme is like a lighter version of that. Uncut 294 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: Gemsgo twenty nineteen ninety one percent, again fifty two percent 295 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: from the audience, but a ninety three on Metacritic, so 296 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: a higher score from the critics, lower score from the audience. 297 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: And that's really confusing for me because to me, Uncut 298 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: Gems now that I've sat on Marty Supreme for over 299 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: a week now, I really like Marty Supreme. I Boryline 300 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: love it. I think Uncut Gems is like, unquestionably above 301 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: this movie for me and maybe I'm maybe I'm in 302 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: the minority there, but I just feel like Uncut Gems, 303 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: especially with its final twenty minutes compared to the final 304 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: twenty minutes in this movie, is just clearly above this movie. 305 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't think this movie has the knockout punch that 306 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Uncut Gems. 307 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: Has, nice rocky thing there, but. 308 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: I do believe that this movie has has better pace 309 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: into it, and there's a more there's more of a 310 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: likability not only for the lead character, but the other 311 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: characters that are with him. 312 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: I see to me and I briefly discussed this the 313 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: news dump last week or whatever. Then we were talking 314 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: about last week. It's already out of my brain. Goo. 315 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: Timothy shallow May is the the betting favorite for Best 316 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: Actor coming into award season for this movie, and I 317 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: think completely justified. He's incredible in this movie. Adam Sandler 318 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: but didn't even daughter or not. I'm him against Adam Sandler, 319 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: it's a different I'm not judging him against Adam Taylor. 320 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: I'm just preposterous. No, I didn't. I'm saying it's preposterous 321 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: that Adam Sandler didn't get recognized. I agree with you 322 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: and go to your point. You're saying Chalome is more likable. 323 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: I think Sandler's character is more likable in Uncut Gems 324 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: than Challome is this. I hate Marty Mauser, I hate him. 325 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: I hate him. I think he does more bad things 326 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: than this than Sandler does an Uncut Gems. 327 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: That's debatable. 328 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 329 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Pretty bad, I don't know. 330 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: So I just want to make a point that if 331 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: you saw this, love this. I think you're gonna love 332 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: Uncut Jebs. 333 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say this. Let's say we don't like 334 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: Let's say both Supreme and Sandler are bad people in it. 335 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: The girlfriend in this, not the girlfriend, but the girl 336 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: in this, I think is more likable than anyone in 337 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: any of the other two movies. 338 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: Oh she she is fantastic. Yes, Actually both of them, 339 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: Press and This are very good, clearly worse people in 340 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: this than Julia Fox's in Uncut. 341 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Jebso Weekend the weekend, she's doing her job, bro the 342 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: weekend student job. I don't know. 343 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: That's also a writer on this movie and past Safty projects. 344 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: Ronald Bronstein on Cut Jem's Good Time. Heaven knows what 345 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: he obviously knows what the hell he's doing as well. 346 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: I think it's important to mention here Goo, which we 347 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: don't often, especially here at the top. The score in 348 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: this movie is by daniel Lepatten. He is known as 349 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: OPN in the music world. He's an electric music producer, 350 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: also from Boston. 351 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: Hell Yeah. 352 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: He's also done the scores on Uncut Gems and Good 353 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Time and Pace for Face. 354 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Sex and at Peace Sphere. 355 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: The scores are also very similar in these three movies. 356 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: That's an atmosphere, and I think the frantic acting of 357 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: Chalame in this directing, the pacing of it, it all 358 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: just works so well, and not to knock one thing 359 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: down to build up another. I watched the finale of 360 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Stranger Things the night before this. I then watch this 361 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is light years ahead of what 362 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I watched last night. Like the instant like gravitational pull 363 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: that this movie has. From the opening scene of Marty 364 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: selling shoes this universe, you are just gripped right into it. 365 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does a great job. It really does a 366 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: great job. 367 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: Uh. 368 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: Synopsis of Marty Supreme Marty Mauser, a young man with 369 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: a dream no one respects, goes to Hell and back 370 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: in pursuit of Greatness. Now, this is really interesting to 371 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: think about because everything that happens in this movie a 372 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 2: bit like the prior to Safty Brothers movies we just mentioned. 373 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: It's really self inflicted. It's not like outside factors, so 374 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: the hell and Back part, it's just because the character, 375 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 2: our main character puts himself through that. Contextually, things are 376 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: pretty good, really not that bad, but in his mental 377 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: and on a personal level, they go through health. 378 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: If he wasn't an asshole, the support system that he 379 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: has around him is actually really really good. 380 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: And I think they're really onto something here because I've 381 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: loved all three of these movies we're talking about here. 382 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: There's something inherently interesting and fun to watch a character 383 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: basically with a mental health issue go through it when 384 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: they don't need to. You know, they're forcing themselves because 385 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: of whatever is wrong with them. I think it just 386 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: makes for a fun movie, a really entertaining movie. Good. 387 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: This movie stars Timothy shalome as Marty Mauser Your Hand 388 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: is Raised. 389 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say very quickly about Shalomey in this movie 390 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: is that he has from tip to tail, he is 391 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: the heartbeat of this movie. He is in every scene. 392 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: He is carrying what is happening on the screen. It 393 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: is not unlike say, Killian Murphy and Oppenheimer rayleiodin Goodfellas. 394 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's quite at that Adam level 395 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: Adam stand Look, we need to stop comparing it to 396 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Adam Standler and Uncut Gems. We both love that movie. 397 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: I have it roughly forty hot dogs. So if this 398 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: is a little bit lower and it's still in a 399 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this movie sucks. 400 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: I agree. 401 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I don't need to keep 402 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: bringing this movie down because Sandler didn't get nominated. 403 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: I am just starting a hashtag justice for Sandler. That's it. 404 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: You just started that. I've been doing that for sixty years. 405 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: Brother, Uh good, So shallamres Marty Mauser. Gwyneth Paltrow's Kstone 406 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: one of the two love interests in here. 407 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: She's really good in it. 408 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: She's really just really really good, really really good, and 409 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: she's she's asked to do some more subdued stuff in 410 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: a pretty fantastical movie. 411 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: She feels she's so empty in this. She just feels 412 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: so empty. It's wonderful. 413 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: She's perfect at playing that over the hill starlet who's 414 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: trying to get it back. 415 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: It's a great great last knows that it's gone. 416 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: Odessa Azion Azion. I don't know how to say her 417 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: last name. She's kind of been popping up now recently, 418 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: this last year or two. As Rachel Meisler. This is 419 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Marty's childhood friend and second love interest. Gu This is 420 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: not to take anything away from Shallow may. I think 421 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: she's the best performance in this movie. I think she's. 422 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Incredible when they reintroduce her. That's when the movie kicks 423 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: into a whole new gear. 424 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: The movie is at its best when she's on screen 425 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: with Shallome. Kevin O'Leary as Milton Rockwell, that's right, shark 426 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: shark tanks. Kevin O'Leary. He I'm sure he's drawing upon 427 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: real life experiences. He fits in. 428 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Dude, he can alime sort of pitch those orange ping 429 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: pong balls to him, right, I'll give you one million 430 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: dollars thirty five percent. 431 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: Tyler o'conma aka Tyler the Creator as Wally This is 432 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: Marty's like, I guess, for lack of a better term, 433 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: best friend. He's the one with the taxi. A Belle 434 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: Ferrara is Ezra Mischkin. This is the mobster old dude 435 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: with the dog that we see, you know, halfway through 436 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: the movie. And then Fran Dresser as Rebecca Mauser. She's 437 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Marty's mother. She's great too, my former queen. And then 438 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: we have some supporting characters and some uh some uh 439 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: what's what's the word when someone pops up cameo, that's 440 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: the word goode uh. Luke Manley as Dion Galanis this 441 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: is the bigger fellow who lives with his parents that's 442 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: helping me with the ping pong balls. He's so good 443 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: and he's like not an actor. This is like his 444 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: first real thing. Yeah, he's he's very good. Emery Cohen 445 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: as Ira Missler that's Rachel's husband. We see him in 446 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: a couple of scenes. He's good at being a son 447 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: of a bitch. That's that's what he is. He Yeah, 448 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: you're right, once you learn more about Rachel. Larry Ratsall 449 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: Sloman as Murray Normkin. This is Marty's uncle and the 450 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: shoe shop owner. 451 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: As soon as his name popped up on the screen, 452 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: his actual name popped up, I'm like, I know that 453 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm in for something good. When someone's nickname is Ratso. 454 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: Ralph Calucci as Lloyd. This is the other shoe salesman. 455 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: He's perfect, He's perfectly cast. He's so good. Guzer Rorig 456 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: as Bella Kletzky. This is Marty's best table tennis friend, 457 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: A little bit older, a little bit more wiser, gives 458 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: him advice. Codo Kawaggachi is Codo Endo. This is the 459 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Japanese table tennis player that we see in his second 460 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: half of the movie. Pico Ayer is rom Sethi. He's 461 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: the head of the International table Tennis Association. A famous author. No, 462 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he's really an actor either. 463 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: What has he written anything i'd know Maniac mcgabe Reid Books. 464 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: George Jeri the Iceman as Lawrence, the table tennis club owner. 465 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: This is this was good too, Yes, go this one. 466 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even know until afterwards. There was some familiar, 467 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: that familiar familiarity to this guy's face. Pendulette of Penn 468 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: and Teller Fame plays Hoff. This is the farmer that 469 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: we see that ends up with the dog. Unbelievable job. 470 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: That's him. 471 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: Yes, that's Pendulette. He's terrifying, absolutely terrifying in this. Isaac 472 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: Mizrahi as Murley Merle that's Kay's publicist. Fred Heckinger is 473 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: the stage actor with k and then gou Levon Hawk, 474 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: Maya's brother Uma Thurman, and Ethan Hawk's son plays Christian, 475 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: one of the men who rip off Marty and Wally 476 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: all Right, so basically Goo. This movie is set in 477 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty two New York City, Lower East Side. Marty 478 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: is a shoe salesman that is not content with his life, 479 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 2: and he has this dream of becoming a champion table 480 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: tennis player because he think it's gonna bring him great 481 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: fame and fortune because the US hasn't really had a 482 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: seat at the table table tennis that see what I'm 483 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: doing there. He also as part of this, he's like 484 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: branding himself. He's trying to create a new table tennis ball, 485 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: and orange one because you can see it better that 486 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: will bear his name and sort of a Jordan branding 487 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: per se, but in the table tennis. 488 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Right and knowing now that there are orange table tennis balls, 489 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, is this where he makes his fortune? 490 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: And it's also interesting to see like someone as driven 491 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: as Marty is who is stuck as a shoe salesman 492 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: in the Lower East side. You know that dynamic is 493 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: very is always fun and interesting someone trying to get 494 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: up and out and seek fame. 495 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: So that's really what the driving force of this movie is. 496 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: All right, So let's get to the question that I 497 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: asked you a month and a half ago. I said, 498 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: let's put a pin in it. We'll get back to 499 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: it in January. We have it here, the question on 500 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: the table right now, table tennis, ping pong, Marty Supreme, Verse, 501 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: Forrest Gump. 502 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: I have to think, ultimately, in like a best of 503 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: or best to free, whatever they play, Gump probably wins out. 504 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 2: I think Gump is able to It's like easy for Gop. 505 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. I feel like the effortless, 506 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: nonchalant blank face of Gump playing with no emotion would 507 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: not only be the better player, but it would wear 508 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: down Supreme, who would then get wound up because Gump 509 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: isn't showing anything. And this might be done in two sets. 510 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: If that's how it works, well, I think Marty could 511 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: could win a game a couple of matches, but I 512 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: think on the on the grand scheme of thing, I 513 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: think Gump wins out. 514 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. First time meeting Gump, sweeps. Then 515 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: once Supreme knows what Gump is about, Gump still wins, 516 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: but Supreme hangs in. 517 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: See it's like a rocky movie. 518 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: I do think that Gump it's because he doesn't know 519 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: any better. He would be the champ. I think, comment 520 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: down below Gump or Supreme. We need interaction. We need 521 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: to grow this, gotta figure out. This is how we 522 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: do it. 523 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: We need to. 524 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: We need to every episode, whatever the topic is, whatever 525 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: the movie is, like, name a movie, any movie, name 526 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: any movie? All right, Uh, Leonardo's Cobb character versus time 527 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: traveling Forrest Gump? Who you got below? 528 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: I think you could have just gone with is the 529 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: top is it spinning still at the end? Is it 530 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: real or not? 531 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh? You know, we could do who's the better dream weaver? 532 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio or Freddy Krueger or Forrest Gump? Who sings 533 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: that song? Then? 534 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 535 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't know who sings that or that guy who's 536 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: the better dream weaver? Those four that's our mount rushmore 537 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: of dream weavers right there. Leonardo DiCaprio, Freddy Krueger, Forrest 538 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: Gump and the guy that sings that song. 539 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: That song is sung by Gary Wright. Gary Wright, how 540 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: about that? 541 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: And we were both Gary about that? Oh hey, comment 542 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: down below? Right or wrong? 543 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: Max? 544 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Shall we start the nonagon? Let's do it all right? 545 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: First off is fun factor. I had a blast. 546 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, it's twofold right, as I've just spoke about. 547 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: I think it's just inherently fun. Placing someone that moveent 548 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: and motivated in that setting and a character like this 549 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: is always gonna be fun. Secondly, I really enjoyed the 550 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: table tennis scenes competition. You know that that back and 551 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: forth brought that sports movie element into it, and I 552 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: thought that was a lot of fun too. 553 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't rip the pacing away. I thought the 554 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: pacing had issues, not to I'm not trying to knock down, 555 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: but like it's I thought the pacing with the sports 556 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: action scenes and the smashing machine took away from the 557 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: human element, the back and forth of Blunt in the Rock. 558 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: I wanted more of that. I thought this movie interweaved 559 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: it and it just ripped right through. Like I wasn't like, 560 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: let's wrap this up so we can get to more supreme. 561 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: It was just a part of it. 562 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: I get where you're saying there and just a note 563 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: on the smashing Machine. I felt like some of that 564 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: is intentional, so that you're like, you ramp up for 565 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: the sports scenes and then you sit in wallow in 566 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: the in the personal. 567 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: And then you also see that he's just a machine 568 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: that's doing the He just does the same thing over 569 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: and over again. I get it, but it's just I 570 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: want to be entertained. I get it all right. Satisfactor 571 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: Once again, While it did not have the mind blowing 572 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: end that an uncut Gems had, I think the satisfactor 573 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: of this ending it's something different, and it's something that 574 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: you're not hoping for the whole movie, but you're kind 575 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: of waiting for that shoe to drop. A shoe salesman, 576 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: if you will, You're waiting for that shoe to drop, 577 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: and then it finally happens at the end. 578 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: This is my main issue with this movie, is you 579 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: are wanting Marty to make the change that the audience 580 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: is striving for, or that a normal regulat and you 581 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: want it to come. But when it happened, it's only 582 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: because he's achieved or wanted. Like it's still selfish and 583 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: it's not. It's not satisfying maybe. 584 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: But at least to me. I also question if we 585 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: don't have that penultimate scene, does him and we'll talk 586 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: about it more in spoilers, but does he still get 587 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: to that point if we don't have the scene before, 588 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe. 589 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: I I personally believe there's a there's a there's a 590 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: better ending to this movie than what we got. I'm 591 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: okay with what happens. 592 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: All right, get out your fucking typewriter, go ahead, write 593 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: something better. 594 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: It's just it was it was incredibly predictable what happens 595 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: in Tokyo, and then we get this really like two 596 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: tied up of an ending for a movie that is 597 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: not at all like that. You say that bothers me, 598 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: but hear me out. 599 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: If they ever made a sequel, obviously they're not gonna 600 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Marty two prime if you will, Oh, you guys can 601 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: use that if you want. Safti's if they ever made 602 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: a sequel, you don't know if he just goes back 603 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: to being the exact same person. 604 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: I don't. It's just I honestly were this movie and 605 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: maybe it had a chance a forty dollars and maybe 606 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: it was turning that way where it really it didn't 607 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: knows dive I just think it shot itself in its 608 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: in the foot a little bit the final twenty to 609 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: the thirty minutes. It just stumbled a little bit down 610 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: the stretch, and I think where where? And we have 611 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: talked about it, and this is the last time I'm 612 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: gonna talk about it. I think, like you mentioned, this 613 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: is where Uncut Gems gets taken up a notch roughly 614 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: the same to that point, the final twenty and then 615 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Uncut Gems. 616 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna forget the end of Uncut Gems. Oh, 617 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna forget it. Yes, As someone who regularly 618 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: hits a dozen leg parlays, I'm never gonna get about it. 619 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: They had to win the opening tip. What it's a 620 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: part of your parlay. Let's see here. Oh, by the way, 621 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: when they go to wrap up the trilogy, Marty southreime. 622 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: No, or maybe you do that second one, you go 623 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: Mar two Supreme. No. 624 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I like mar Marty twupreme better. 625 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: No, But then you can use the supreme and. 626 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: The comment down below, guys, Mar two Supreme Marty Tupreme, because. 627 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: You can leave the supreme part open for the third one. 628 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then the third one you're not gonna You're 629 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: not gonna Mar two, Mar three Supreme, Mar three Supreme 630 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: comment down below Mar three Supreme or Marty southreim you 631 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: know what? Hearing them both out, Not sure if I 632 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: love either. 633 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: We'll figure it out what we get there. 634 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't see a Ford, so we don't have to 635 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: think about this. No, it only needs to be three 636 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: culminates in him playing gulp until fucking Disney buys it 637 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, we're making into quadrilogy. Everything else, Ah 638 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: boromed or none? I had zero bore. 639 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I did check my phone 640 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: once in the third act to see how much time 641 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: we had left. I wasn't really bored. I was more 642 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: curious is how much story we had left? So no, 643 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't think there's really any bore here. 644 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Ah, quater World? Is this better or worse than the 645 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five classic water World? 646 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: Get that coin out of my face? 647 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Halloween? Will this wayne over time? I've saw it three 648 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: or four days ago, so that is that's a big window. 649 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm at the same I think. 650 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm down one dog from when I initially saw it. 651 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: But I think that's I'm at its floor where I'm at, 652 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: and it's still tremendous, still one of I have it 653 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: as one of the four best movies. 654 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: Of the year, Max credit Union. 655 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: I think because she's in it too much to make Plemonade, 656 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: I think I have to give credit to Odessa Azion. 657 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: I know I'm not saying that correctly, as Rachel Meisler 658 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: to me, the movie is kicked up when she's on 659 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: the screen. The movies at its best, at its most fun, 660 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: at its most interesting when her and Marty are together. 661 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: So credit to her. 662 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: When life gives you Plemings, you squeeze that sum bitch 663 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: that's Jesse Plemmons. You grab them and you squeeze until 664 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: you get just a little bit extra out of them, 665 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: and the film gets a little bit better because of 666 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: what they've done. Who stepped into this movie for a 667 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: small amount of time and you're like, man, that was great. 668 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: I think there's two options here. One you've mentioned already 669 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: Luke Manley as his friend Dion, the Big Fellow, lives 670 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: with his parents. When he's on screen, it's great. I 671 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: also think Penduletta's hoff is downright terrifying, and on a 672 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: different level, they both make Plemonade. 673 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: So I want to throw a name at you, not 674 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: really for what she did on the screen, but for 675 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: her phone calls at the beginning of the movie, and 676 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: that is fran Dresser. 677 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: She's good, She's really good. 678 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: The phone calls at the beginning are hilarious. 679 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, try to trick them. 680 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: Pants tensity, excite, mike mania, what got you going in 681 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: this movie? And I think the ping pong is really 682 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: the big exciting point. Like, I don't think it had 683 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: that mind blowing moment that some other movies have, But 684 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: the consistency of this is really really good. Even the 685 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: ping pong stuff, where I think that might be like 686 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: the height of excitement, it's not that much higher than 687 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: just the height that we have the whole movie. 688 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing that may qualify for 689 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: pantstent moment is that second time they go to the farm. 690 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: It's the only thing that gets close to it. But 691 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: it is lacking that major pants tent, And so in 692 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: combination with me being a little dissatisfied with the conclusion 693 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: and not quite having a major pants stent, that's sort 694 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: of where I'm feeling about the movie. 695 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: For those of you tarty to the Mac and do party, 696 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: I rate not only mean, but Mac also rates everything 697 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: on a forty hot Dog rating system, and Mac I 698 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: thought the pacing score Shalo may the high floor throughout 699 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: this entire movie, where we don't get these crazy peaks, 700 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: but the entire thing is just consistently good. The ping 701 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: pong scenes I thought, did not take away from the storytelling, 702 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a distraction. It really played into it. 703 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: Some of the side characters, while they might have veered 704 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: a little bit off, it definitely added to the weird 705 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: sensibility that Marty had. Also, I love the lines delivered 706 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: by Shallomey where he would get really inside baseball about 707 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: ping pong, about table tennis when speaking to someone who 708 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: had no idea what the hell he was talking about, Yeah, 709 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: and he'd have to pull back and then dumb it down. 710 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: I really really liked those scenes. You only got like 711 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: three or four of those, but I really liked that 712 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: every single time you did. Also, I like that turn 713 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: at the end. I even like it wasn't a huge 714 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: turn when he's reintroduced to the second love interest, what 715 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: he does in a protection way for her, it was 716 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: really nice. It was a nice step forward. It wasn't 717 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: anything big, and it did show that he that he 718 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: cared that he was able to care. It wasn't just 719 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: about him. There was something with her that he couldn't verbalize, 720 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: but it was there in him. 721 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: It is an interesting dynamic where he tends to only 722 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: care about the two loved ones when they have when 723 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: they're like in distress normal times, he uses them just 724 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: to as tools. 725 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: Basically, also his friend and the father. I thought the 726 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: dynamic between those three were really, really fun. I thought 727 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: that he had this big money making scheme ready to 728 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: go with the orange ping pong balls and it just 729 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: turns out to be nothing. 730 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just really an aside to the whole thing. 731 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: But I have it at thirty eight like like, and 732 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: I could be talked up like. 733 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: I think this, So where does that fall? On twenty 734 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: twenty five, I was. 735 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: Gonna say, I think you could argue this as the 736 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: best movie of the year. Is it my favorite movie 737 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: of the year. No, I think that Friendship and Superman 738 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: A my two favorite movies of the year. But if 739 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to me and say, hey, what what's 740 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: the best movie of the year, I'm not gonna tell 741 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: you it's Friendship. I'm not gonna tell you it's Superman. 742 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna say this or one Battle after another, 743 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: but I would take this a smidge over that interesting. 744 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: I think that has higher highs, but this has the 745 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: higher consistent floor. 746 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 2: Oh I see. I don't agree, especially once the second 747 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: act begins. In one battle after another, it's this has 748 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: paced tremendously. That's even better, at least in my od. 749 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: I disagree, Gou. 750 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: I think this is an absolute tour de force for 751 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: Timothy shallow May. To your point, it is somewhat like Oppenheimer, 752 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: where Killian Murphy's on screen for one hundred percent of it, 753 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: as Shallo May is here, and I think if Shalomey 754 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 2: wins Best Actor, I'm not gonna be upset about it. 755 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: As much as I love Leo and one battle after another, 756 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: it's a shame one of those two has to lose. 757 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 2: The secondary characters in this movie that are bouncing off 758 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: Marty and how Marty has a different relationship with all 759 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: of them, although ultimately he's still a weasel. Marty the 760 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: weasel who's weaseling his way and using people and just 761 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: really trying to better himself. He doesn't really care about anyone. 762 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: Those characters are all cast it and acted tremendously. They 763 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: did a great job there. Ultimately, this movie is like 764 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: what you want out of a potential Best Picture winner, right. 765 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to just be super artsy. I want 766 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: to have fun. I want to be entertained. I want 767 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 2: to be moved emotionally a little bit. I don't want 768 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 2: it to just be like this. You know, low paced, 769 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 2: you know, the writing's magnificent. This movie's fun at its core, 770 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: if nothing else, it's fun because of the performance, because 771 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: of the pacing. Yes so, I think we should scherish 772 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: movies like that. 773 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: We should champion movies like that. 774 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so, even if I don't think it's the 775 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: best movie of the year, I think what this movie 776 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 2: does and what it's striving to do, is what most 777 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: movies should do. Ku I have it. I think I'm 778 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: right on the border of thirty seven and thirty eight 779 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: hot Dogs. To me, one battle after another, one battle 780 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: after another, one battle after another. 781 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: The name is stupid. They should have called it something else. 782 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm glazy on that the best movie of the year, 783 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 2: and it's in a tier by itself. I then have 784 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 2: twenty eight years later, Friendship Marty Supreme in Sinners that 785 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: are kind of floating. 786 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: Right below Sinners is also great. By the way, I 787 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: don't want to I'm not meaning to leave that out 788 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: of the conversation. 789 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: I think the conversation for me is becoming whether I 790 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: like this more than Sinners or not. They're kind of 791 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: both in that same range at the four or five. 792 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: I think I like twenty eight later twenty eight years 793 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 2: later more, and I think I like Friendship more. Both 794 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: of those I have at thirty eight. So I think 795 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 2: this might be thirty seven, tied with Sinners, one of 796 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: the four or five best movies of the year. And 797 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 2: I know you and I love Friendship. It's not for everyone, 798 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 2: so if you take that out of there, you know 799 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 2: it's one of the three or four best movies of 800 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 2: the year. I just don't think it is as good 801 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 2: as one Battle after another. And that's not a bad thing, 802 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: since I think that's one of the or maybe the 803 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: best movie of the last five years. So it's great. 804 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 2: It's great. It's gonna win awards. It's gonna win a 805 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: lot of awards, and I think everyone should see it. 806 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's the best movie made by the 807 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: Saftie brothers, and I don't think it's the best movie 808 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: of the year. 809 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: No, look, I still prefer uncut Gems same and I 810 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: might take this as a movie over good Time, but 811 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: I think good Time is more eye opening of a performance. 812 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 2: Good Time moved me more emotionally. This movie's definitely more fun, 813 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 2: So I think I like this a little bit more 814 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: than Good Time. But yeah, I'm not gonna put down 815 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: Good Time either. 816 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: And I think what this movie also did because going 817 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: into it, I was like, it's kind of a down 818 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: year for movies, not down per se, but like the consistency, 819 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: like what a pretty good year? No, but this really 820 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: pushed it to like, No, this is pretty great. This 821 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: is a pretty great year. Actually, yeah, I agree. 822 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 2: I think I think the second tier of movies this 823 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 2: year are great. You know you mentioned Superman Fantastic fours 824 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: up there. 825 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: For me, but also no, so like we we didn't 826 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: like Sinners as much as everyone else, but still love 827 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: that movie. The fact that people got looking at one 828 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: battle after another Sinners weapons and uh, Marty Supreme, Like 829 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: that's that's a good four for a lot of people. 830 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: You know what this is? This and Sinners are pretty 831 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: similar in. 832 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: This sers earlier. Yeah, I'm sorry we we love Sinners. 833 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: We didn't like we didn't love weapons. Oh oh yeah, 834 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people loved weapons. Yeah no, that's so 835 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: Looking at those four, that's a solid four to push forward. 836 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: Marty supreme in Cinners. Even though drastically different movies are feeling, 837 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: my feeling towards them are pretty similar in that thematically, 838 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, everything is there for smash success. The performances 839 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: are great, you have this period piece that's fun. It's 840 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: just story wise, something was a little bit missing, a 841 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 2: little bit missing. 842 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: I'm more on that for Sinners than I am for this, 843 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: I think not. 844 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 2: But for Sinners, I didn't. I didn't love it. Oh really, 845 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: I didn't love it. So it just makes it not 846 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: that rewatchable for me. It didn't hurt my first feeling. 847 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 2: That movie's tremendous. I'm curious what a rewatch of this 848 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: movie will feel like. 849 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: Shall we get to spoilers? 850 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: Let's do it. So, I mean, you start the movie 851 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: with a literal bang semen. 852 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: You see semen. 853 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 2: Marty bangs Rachel in the back of the shoe store, 854 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 2: and then he robs the shoe store. That all happens 855 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: in the first like five or eight minutes of the movie, 856 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: and that sets in motion what happens in this movie. 857 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: Marty constantly trying to scheme and weasel and nothing goes 858 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 2: his way, so he also he has to constantly come. 859 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Up with so unlike uncut Gems, where I felt like 860 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: like the demise of Sandler's character was always right around 861 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: the corner, I felt like supreme every single time that 862 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: he either got something or didn't, I'm like, oh, he'll 863 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: figure out another way, right. 864 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: It did seem like there was a little less on 865 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: the line because he's younger and he still had kind 866 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 2: of a safe place to fall back on. Obviously, you 867 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: get to him in the Ritz in London. This is 868 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: where he meets Kay, seduces Kay. She comes into the mix, 869 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 2: and she's a great addition to the movie. He ends 870 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: up losing that tournament, right, which sets forth what his 871 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: scheme is for the rest of the movie. So now 872 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: he's offered this job that he thinks is below him 873 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: but was actually a great opportunity, which plays in at 874 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: the end. You get that you know, montage of him 875 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: touring with the Globetrotters, and when that's that's over, that's 876 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: really when this movie becomes Marty. 877 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: Oh, Tracy mcgrady's in this, right, Yeah, I think it's. 878 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, McGrady and Kemba on the Globe Trotter's there, But 879 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 2: Baron Davis is not in this. When that tour finishes 880 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: and he comes back to New York, his uncle has 881 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: him quote unquote arrested. Right then he gets away, Rachel 882 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: helps him. We see Rachel's pregnant, and you're like, we 883 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: saw this demon at the beginning. That's definitely Marty's baby. 884 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: Well, first off, when they showed the semen at the beginning, 885 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: you knew that she was going to be pregnant for sure. 886 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: You don't show semen for no reason. That's a rhyme. 887 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: Put it on the DVD cover. 888 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: And why I'm coming away with loving Rachel more than 889 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: Marty or anyone else in this movie is because they 890 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 2: do such a good job turning her into a sympathetic 891 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: character until. 892 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: She's not, Like, oh, she's also all of the weasel too. 893 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's also a piece of shit, and these two 894 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 2: are meant for each other. 895 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: The stuff with her just trying to keep up with Marty, 896 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, she's just she's trying to fit in 897 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: with them almost, But then when she takes it the 898 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: step further, you're like, oh, that's that's not good. 899 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: We've got too far. 900 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have given yourself a black asp One. 901 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: Thing of note here because I was curious in the theater. 902 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: The fifteen hundred dollars fine he received from the itta 903 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 2: is equivalent to about eighteen thousand, three hundred and forty 904 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 2: seven dollars in today's money. I was curious with that, 905 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: but he was pissed about the sponge racket. 906 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: I get it. 907 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: We get to the moment where that bathtub collapses to 908 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: the floor and crushes. 909 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: That was the scene, and I texted you when it happened. Yeah, 910 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: you're kind of being lulled into these conversations. I'm not 911 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: saying they were born, but like, it's the conversations of 912 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: how are we gonna make money? 913 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Money? 914 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: Money? And they did tell him don't take a shower, 915 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: and when it falls down, I'm like, oh my god, 916 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 1: yeah smokes. 917 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: So the other thing, as much as his character was 918 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 2: fun for a plot device, I didn't love this gangster 919 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: character either. It just he just sort of existed to 920 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: be a bad guy. 921 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: And so, but he was also there because it's just 922 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: an extra thing of this is how we can get 923 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: some money. 924 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: Right right, So he ends up ignoring his requesting the vet, 925 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: him and Wally go hustling. The dog escapes into the fuhe. 926 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: You know what pants tenn City. I love that hustle scene. 927 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 2: That was good. 928 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: I love that hustle scene. 929 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 2: That was very good. Yes, and with the tall fuck 930 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 2: in the bowling alley, Yeah, that was great. 931 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: I love that hustling scene. 932 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: This to me, my two favorite scenes involved Rachel's black guy. 933 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: She comes to Marty with this picture perfect black guy, 934 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: and Marty, which I didn't think he had it in him, 935 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: goes and almost kills Ira with a table tennis trophy, 936 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: like knocks him unconscious, demolishes his face, and you're like, whoa, 937 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: that's fucking wild. They go now then and stay with 938 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: Dion the big Boy, and they end up stealing deal father. 939 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 2: They go to the farm, they get shot at by 940 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: Penn Deon throws him out, and then when we get back, 941 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: when we're back at Dion's house, this is where Marty 942 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: learns Rachel faked her black eye, and. 943 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: I was like whoa, yeah, because they did a great 944 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: job of showing her husband as someone that could do this. 945 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it turns out he's just a normal guy 946 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: trying to make his marriage work. 947 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 948 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: And then we get Marty again abandoning Rachel, this time 949 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: for maybe an appropriate reason. He goes bangs K again, 950 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 2: then steals her jewelry, which I liked. I really liked 951 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 2: that scene too. He learns it's costume Julie, So then 952 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 2: he's gonna ingratiate himself back in with K and back 953 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 2: in with her husband, but she can't help him out 954 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: now she gets to poor review. And then he's dealing 955 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 2: with Kevin O'Leary again, and he gets as such a 956 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 2: demeaning scene, so demeaning to have to bend over and 957 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 2: get paddled on the ass with a fock you. But 958 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 2: he weaves his way back into Tokyo. But before then, 959 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 2: you know, Marty and Rachel try to conn that gangster 960 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 2: guy with the dog. Rachel gets taken and then Marty 961 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: gets taken, so they have to go back to that farm, 962 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 2: and this is where that shootout happens. Rachel gets shot, 963 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 2: and you're like, this is where I checked my phone 964 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 2: because I wasn't sure how we were gonna proceed from here. 965 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 2: I was pretty intrigued. I'm like, oh fuck, they actually 966 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: shot the pregnant girl. He rushes her back to the 967 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: hospital and fucking leaves. This is where I was like, ah, man, 968 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 2: like I really fucking hate this guy. Like in uncut Gems, 969 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 2: I never got to that moment. Howard. I never fully 970 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 2: hated him. He wasn't a bad guy, but I fully 971 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 2: but I never liked him. When he left pregnant Rachel 972 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: bullet hole in her at the hospital, I was like. 973 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: I really, So, here's the difference. Is that Howard you 974 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: never really like At points in this movie you like Marty. 975 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you you enjoy what's 976 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: going on screen. I don't know if I ever like him. 977 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. And maybe maybe people calling this the 978 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 2: best movie of the year love this character more than 979 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 2: I do. That that might be the difference. Honestly, he 980 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: goes back to Tokyo, or goes to Tokyo, finds out 981 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 2: regardless of what happens that day, he's not gonna be 982 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 2: able to enter the World Championship. He still goes along 983 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: with losing in front of the Japanese crowd, but then 984 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: once he realizes that Kevin O'Leary is gonna make him 985 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 2: kiss a fucking pig. He has a conniption, and basically, 986 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: you know breaks it would be like if a pro 987 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: wrestler was like, Hey, this isn't real, let's wrestle for real, 988 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 2: and they play for real. Marty wins. Marty wins lets 989 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: out this emotional response. He finally achieves what he wanted 990 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 2: to do, even though he's not gonna win a world 991 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 2: championship or get any money. 992 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: He's actually getting less money by doing this. 993 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 2: Not gonna get any compensation whatsoever. He is finally achieved 994 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: I guess maybe his goal, but not really. And so 995 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: that's where it's like, all right, you know, his priorities 996 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 2: have changed. He comes back to the hospital, you see 997 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: him confess his love to Rachel, and then he sees 998 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 2: his new board, starts bawling crying. I'm like, all right, 999 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: they wrap it up in a nice little bow. It 1000 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 2: makes sense for someone that's a first time father dealing 1001 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 2: with feelings. They were not dealing with this whole movie. 1002 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: I just didn't love it for the movie. That's that's 1003 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 2: all I think. 1004 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: After an entire movie of not being very responsible, now 1005 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: holding the thing that not only you're so responsible for. 1006 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: But so yes, he's so happy that he's holding the baby, 1007 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: but it's also him kind of knowing that what he 1008 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: has done in the past is completely over. This is 1009 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: something new, and he's he's gonna be a shoe salesman now. 1010 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the way the movie wants it 1011 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: to be tied up. As to me, the character they 1012 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 2: built for the first two hours and thirty minutes or 1013 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 2: two hours and twenty minutes would come back, maybe do 1014 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 2: the hospital, and then bounce again. I don't think he's 1015 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 2: gonna be a good doubt. I don't think he's gonna 1016 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 2: stay with Rachel. I think it's him in a moment 1017 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 2: of weakness, not having anything else to go back to, 1018 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 2: has to grab on the ration. 1019 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: I can pitch you, Marty twuprem right now is that 1020 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: you open up. And because of what he did in 1021 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: Japan in front of the soldiers, he is now an 1022 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: international hero. Yes, because he went ahead and went against 1023 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: what they wanted him to do with the Japanese who 1024 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: were still at the beginning of the movie, the travel 1025 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: band just ended. So the relation between America and Japan 1026 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: was very, very poor, so to go against what they 1027 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: wanted him to do and lose on purpose to the 1028 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: Japanese and say no, I'm gonna beat the Japanese champion. 1029 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: He now becomes a hero, a national hero. Well he 1030 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: could be international too, but more specifically national hero, and 1031 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: table tennis does take off a little bit more and 1032 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: he's a semi absentee father, but he is giving money back. 1033 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: There's Marty Tupreme. 1034 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: To me, that's what should happen with Marty Supreme is 1035 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 2: he's just destined to be this tragic character and he's 1036 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 2: never gonna be the family. 1037 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: Or hear me out, Marty two supream shoot salesman of 1038 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: the Year. 1039 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 2: I think that's more fitting. And it bothered me a 1040 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: little bit, and it's still bothering me and Goo I 1041 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 2: found out yesterday. I think a big influence on that 1042 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: is while making this movie, Josh Safti became a father, and. 1043 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: I think it may have changed it because I think 1044 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: it may have changed. 1045 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 2: How he felt about the character and how he really 1046 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 2: wanted this character's journey to go. I think it's gonna 1047 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 2: be better for a lot of people, like the common 1048 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 2: theater goer I think will prefer it tied up with 1049 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 2: a nice neat little Bow. And I think that's a 1050 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: lot of the reasons why people didn't love uncut Gems 1051 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 2: is because that was fantastical and they wanted a happy ending. 1052 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: I'm definitely a lot less of a piece of shit 1053 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: now because of my son. I'll say that. So I 1054 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: think sense look holding your child for the first time. 1055 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: It fucking changes you. 1056 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 2: I just don't think it would change Marty Supreme. 1057 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't as much of a piece of shit as 1058 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: well in certain aspects. Maybe I don't know. I wasn't now. 1059 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 1: I was kind of a weasel? 1060 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 2: Was I like Martiny Spree? 1061 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: Was I already? 1062 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,280 Speaker 2: You know? Because you weren't good at anything. 1063 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't good at anything. I'm you fucking sucked and 1064 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:20,479 Speaker 1: you were an asshole. Now I just fucking suck. Let's 1065 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: get into mack Sack, and mack Sack could be anything. 1066 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: It could be a boat's mac. We need to get 1067 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: our polls out, nice, We need to get our polls 1068 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: out for these six remaining dripping hogs out, but the 1069 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: six remaining months that need to be voted on a 1070 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 1: big part of this. 1071 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five year has come to a conclusion. 1072 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 2: Twenty five movies are all out, and Mack and Goo 1073 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 2: for I don't know six years running, now seven years 1074 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 2: running have done movie auction drafts, right, so Goo and 1075 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: for the folks at home, they're learning of this for 1076 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 2: the first time. The twenty twenty five auction draft is 1077 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: the most hotly con neck competition we've had ever. Three 1078 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: of us have a chance to win this. Me, you 1079 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: and Keith are all within ten points of each other. 1080 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 2: And so these bonus points from movies of the month, 1081 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: voted on by you guys, the listeners are gonna matter 1082 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 2: and decide who wins the twenty twenty five movie auction Draft. 1083 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: We have July, August, September, October, November, December polls that 1084 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,919 Speaker 2: will be coming out this week. 1085 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so I listed out to you pretty much six 1086 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: to eight movies for each month. You have highlighted the 1087 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: movies that you believe should be in there for the 1088 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: polls we have done up through June. Let's go to July. 1089 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: The ones that you have highlighted for July that I 1090 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: believe we will use Superman, Jurassic World's Rebirth, Fantastic Four, 1091 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: First Steps, and Eddington. 1092 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, Eddington has been a divisive movie. But some people 1093 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 2: are still calling it the best, one of the best movies. 1094 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 1: Okay, because I think Together also picked up pretty good. 1095 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 2: Steam, not nearly as much as Eddington. 1096 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and I know what you did last summer was 1097 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: exactly what I wanted. 1098 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: It's definitely not gonna be Smurfs and Happy Gilmour too. 1099 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 1: Smurfs. Fuck it sucks just like me at everything August. 1100 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: Caught Stealing, Freakier Friday Weapons, and then you go The 1101 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: Bad Guys Too or The Naked Gun. I think both 1102 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: of those deserve. 1103 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 2: To be in, not over those other three. 1104 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: This is me having no knowledge of what movies I have. 1105 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: I have freak Heer Friday. I actually know that The 1106 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: Bad Guys Too is a solid sequel made good money. 1107 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,240 Speaker 1: The Naked Gun made over one hundred million as a comedy, 1108 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: So put the Naked Gun in there. So why do 1109 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: you think that Caught Stealing should be in over either 1110 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: of those? 1111 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 2: It's on a lot of year end lists, very much 1112 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 2: like Eddington. People are some people who have it in 1113 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 2: the top five. 1114 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: I love Freakyer Friday. All right, we'll go the Naked 1115 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: Gun and. 1116 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 2: Freak your Friday to me, And I think you and 1117 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: I would agree on this. It's better than the Naked 1118 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 2: Gun and made as much a No, No, naked Gun's better, 1119 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 2: not the way you reviewed it. No, So the naked 1120 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 2: Gun I have higher on my year end list, not 1121 00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 2: the way you talked about them. 1122 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter the way I talk about that. 1123 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 2: So take freak your Friday off. 1124 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: Then I'm not taking freak your Friday off. I need 1125 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: to win this. I just recognize that I have that. 1126 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be weapons, and I don't know. 1127 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't think weapons even got drafted. I don't think 1128 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 2: anyone had it. 1129 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: September, one battle after another, the Conjuring, Last Rites, Downton Abbey, 1130 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: the Grand Finale. 1131 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 2: I hadn't even heard of, but you drafted it and 1132 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 2: it did okay, So what is the Long Walk? The 1133 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 2: Long Walks? That movie that people were talking about was 1134 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 2: watching on treadmills and stuff that had a little bit 1135 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 2: of a blip and so a lot of people liked it. 1136 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: Or you can go with the Demon Slayer movie that 1137 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 2: made a lot of money. 1138 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: Can Matsu no Yaboo Infinity Castle. 1139 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, which No, I made a lot of money. It 1140 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 2: did make a lot of them. 1141 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll put it. I'll put Demons Layer on there. 1142 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,320 Speaker 2: Okay, works for me. 1143 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: The other possibilities there would be spinal Tap two. The 1144 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: end continues, Hem and Gabby's Dollhouse The Max one of 1145 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: Max highlights of the Yeah, I loved that one. Oh. 1146 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: Also in August, I really liked Nobody too. 1147 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 2: I didn't really like it. I thought it was fine. 1148 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: Fine sometimes is better than bad. 1149 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 2: It's in every instance than that. 1150 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a dictionary? Bro October, the Smashing Machine, Roofman, 1151 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: Black Phone two, tron Airis, or Bolgonia. 1152 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 2: So this one was a tough one because I think 1153 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 2: Bogonia has done pretty well, but no one's really seen it. 1154 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 2: It's done well critics in audience numbers. Tronta Aris made 1155 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 2: a lot of money, but I thought it fucking suck. 1156 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh you saw it and you loved tron. 1157 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 2: Rufman was pretty good, made decent amount of money. 1158 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people have seen Rufman two. 1159 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Black Phone two also made a lot of money. 1160 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 2: Good Boy, disappointing, Good Fortune. Everyone hates like Good Force. 1161 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't hate it, and uh, I don't think anyone 1162 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 2: saw that Springsteen movie, so that that's not in. So 1163 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: you can choose between Bogonia or and tront Aris. 1164 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: People are liking Bogonia. 1165 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay with it being on there, and no one. 1166 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone loved Toronto Aris. 1167 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 1: So November Toutpio, Wicked four Good, Predator, bad Lands, and 1168 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna go with Hamnet. But people loved frankins Stein. 1169 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't. I think critics loved Frankenstein. Every person I've 1170 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 2: talked to that's watched Franken Sign and because it's on Netflix, 1171 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,439 Speaker 2: it's more than you would think it is confused by Frankenstein. 1172 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 2: So I I also have seen it. I thought it 1173 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 2: kind of. 1174 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: Are they aroused? Though? That's kind of all that matters 1175 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: even if you're confused. If you're aroused, it works. 1176 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 2: And Hamnet is also getting some year end buzz uh. 1177 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 2: What's your face might win back. 1178 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: I would almost take that off for Wake Up dead Man, 1179 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: and I haven't even seen it, but that either hasn't. 1180 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 2: Seen it, and we have a I have a Ryan 1181 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 2: Johnson thing that's not getting on there. 1182 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: Also. I haven't seen it yet, but I like the 1183 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: plot of Eternity. 1184 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 2: I have seen Eternity, and so that was my fourth 1185 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,360 Speaker 2: until you put. 1186 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: It on there. I don't want ham Eternity. 1187 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 2: Is goodt Hamnt maybe should be on there. Ham. 1188 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: That's a stupid name though, call it something else. 1189 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 1190 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: That sounds like you're you're trying to catch pigs. December Avatar, 1191 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: Fire and Ash, the SpongeBob movie, Search for SquarePants. As 1192 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: someone who was seeing that, Mac, it's not great. 1193 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 2: That's a Davy draft pick right there. 1194 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: The Housemaid and Marty Supreme. Yeah, the other three movies 1195 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: that might go there. Five Nights at Freddy's two I 1196 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: have not seen. It did not get reviewed well, and 1197 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: a Conda. I do plan on seeing, but people fucking 1198 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: hate it. 1199 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 2: I am a halfway through. I am not enjoying it 1200 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 2: at all. 1201 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: You're not enjoying it. You have to finish it, though. 1202 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: I was very hopeful, and I have not enjoyed it. 1203 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: Have you seen Song Sung Blue yet? 1204 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 2: No? I don't think I'm ever gonna watch that. 1205 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: That does seem like it's a movie for you, though. 1206 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: No. I don't like Neil Diamond Touching Me. 1207 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: Have Friends? 1208 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: You watch that? 1209 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? But I like Saving Silverman though it's similar. 1210 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: They're a Neil Diamond cover band. Yeah, there you go. 1211 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: I like when the raccoon attacks. Uh, Steve's on. 1212 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, I'm five years late to the 1213 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: game now six. I guess technically I have watched White 1214 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 2: Lotus season one. Yeah, Steve's On's amazing in that. 1215 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: Steves's always amazing, Steve's We need to make a list 1216 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: of just when actors pop up on the screen and 1217 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: you're just gonna smile just because you're happy to see them. 1218 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 2: Also, I'll say this, I'm glad I didn't watch it 1219 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 2: week to week live. I thought the finale of White 1220 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 2: Loos season one was pretty underwhelming. The season was great. 1221 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 2: I loved the characters finale. 1222 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: My cousin always laughs at me when I tell him 1223 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: that I don't plan on watching a show, but I'm 1224 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: happy that certain people are getting work, and he's like. 1225 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: Why Steve's on a perfect example. 1226 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see Tim Meadow's on a sitcom. 1227 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to watch the sitcom, but I'm happy 1228 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: he's on the sitcom. 1229 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. 1230 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy that Schmidt got eight seasons of the Neighborhood. 1231 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna watch it, but it's like being a 1232 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: major league player and having ten great seasons on one 1233 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: team and then you get paid a lot for the 1234 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: final seven or eight years where you're not quite at 1235 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: the prime of what you were, but you're still serviceable, 1236 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: but you're almost getting like the back pay for how 1237 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 1: good you were yes in the first It's. 1238 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 2: An issue with most baseball contracts, specifically Baseball too is 1239 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 2: paying for past performance and they're not They're never going 1240 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 2: to achieve that level again. And I think GMS these 1241 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 2: last couple of years ago getting wise to that. We've 1242 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 2: seen it this offseason. Goo. 1243 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: I've seen so many commercials for the Neighborhood and every 1244 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: time I thought I was being punked, punked by Johnny Knoxville. 1245 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Punked starring Ashton Kutcher. You see that new show he's 1246 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 2: coming up or he's in the new Ryan Murphy Show. 1247 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 2: That's basically the substance but with more stuff. Ashton Kutcher 1248 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 2: is starring in the new Ryan Murphy show coming out 1249 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 2: this month or next month, essentially is the substance with 1250 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 2: more world building. 1251 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Did you see wasn't it a Ryan Murphy show? The 1252 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 1: one with Kim Kardashian. 1253 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was American Heart Story, wasn't it. No? 1254 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: There was like a recent one where she was a 1255 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: lawyer or something. Oh I saw her butt, but yeah, 1256 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: she was wearing a dress where you could see the 1257 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: whale tail. Where Like, if that's what we get from 1258 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: the show, is that whale tails are back, it's not bad. Yeah, 1259 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: we lived in an era. We lived in a golden 1260 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 1: era of whale tails. 1261 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure did. 1262 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Two thousand low rise jeans and whale tal's the best. 1263 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Bring it back, Bring it back. If Mac and Goo 1264 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: can do one thing in the decade of podcasting, bring 1265 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: back the whale tale. 1266 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,919 Speaker 2: If we can bring back the whale tel. Jeez, they'll 1267 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: they'll talk about us forever. My god, you almost break 1268 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 2: your neck when you when you see a whale tail 1269 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: these days, you do such a double take, like that, 1270 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I just see it. 1271 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: How often do you see that? 1272 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 2: That's how often that you almost never see it? 1273 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: How did they die? A whale tail walked by all time? 1274 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Their next snapped. 1275 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 2: Whale tail and it was featured in the episode it 1276 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 2: was Kaylee Cuoco Eight Simple Rules. 1277 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and John Ritter was having a conniption. 1278 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 1: If you will for sure, it's like, oh, well, what's 1279 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: to go put? Go? 1280 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 2: Cover that up? 1281 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: That first season of Eight Simple Rules is wonderful it's good. 1282 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: It's good. It's good Family Fun and Whale Tails. Put 1283 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: that on the DVD cover Family Fun and Whale Tails. 1284 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: You don't need to watch any other season. David Spade 1285 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: takes over. 1286 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he always saves it comes. 1287 01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he does. He No, he's a sitcom veteran, 1288 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But I wouldn't say he saves sitcoms. 1289 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 1: He's the added piece at the end of like, Okay, 1290 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: we need something to add a little longevity to this. 1291 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: How do we How do we get rules of engagement 1292 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: to go six or seven years? We only have Putty, 1293 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: the mother from Grounded for Life, the Allie Hudson and uh, 1294 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 1: what's her name? He's very, very attractive. We need to 1295 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 1: get David Spaden here, all right? Uh, where can you 1296 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: find us? 1297 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 2: You can find us on x and Instagram, at Mac 1298 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: and Goo podcast every other platform. We are Mac, Ampersango, 1299 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: max Shift seven Goo That includes Facebook, Stitcher of Tuning, Castbox, Spreaker, 1300 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: Google Play, I Radio. We're on Spotify and more importantly 1301 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Apple podcast. Get on their rate review subscribe five stars. 1302 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 2: If you do that in an alternate timeline, we'll get 1303 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 2: you a free T shirt from Watertown sportswear. 1304 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: If you live in the upside down or no, you 1305 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: don't live in the upside down, that's just a portal. 1306 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: If you live in dimension act with Krang, we'll get 1307 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: you a T shirt. 1308 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 2: Watter Down Sportsword dot com expert screenprinting and embroidered. 1309 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Wow, Colls. That's pretty good that teapublic dot com merger. 1310 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: Check us out. At the end of the week, I 1311 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: would like to do a news dump because I want 1312 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: to talk about the X Men teaser because got me 1313 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: going out of the three teasers that we've gotten so far, 1314 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get a leak of the fourth by 1315 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: that time. 1316 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 2: Too already seen it, Okay, I'll see it right after this. 1317 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: Then the X Men one Cyclops tearing off the glasses like, okay, 1318 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm in Because also, we're dealing with Daddy Avengers now, 1319 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: and that means that Cyclops his son is most likely involved. 1320 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: His son is a time traveler who might have messed 1321 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 1: up with Doom Likes. 1322 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: No, I think we're gonna be dealing with Rachel Summers, 1323 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 2: his daughter. 1324 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be somen I've gathered. 1325 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 2: I've done some meat research on it. 1326 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be cable. Comment down below. Comment 1327 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: down below. 1328 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 2: The latest one, goody fourth one? 1329 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Who is a doom? No? 1330 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 2: Oh, so maybe there's gonna be a fifth one. It 1331 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 2: features Shurry and Baku Nay more and the thing do 1332 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 2: they all love kids? So that's that might this might 1333 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 2: be the first one with no kids. Yeah, you're right, all. 1334 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Right, so join us at the end of the week. 1335 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: We'll have to do Pluribus soon. I gotta watch Pluribus 1336 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: soon next week. Then we'll see, well, we'll see Tuesdays 1337 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: or days I abuse kangaroos. Damn Burton, you have to 1338 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: say bye. 1339 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: I usually think, don't I do it after I abuse kangaroos. 1340 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: No, oh no, did I not say abuse kangaroos? I 1341 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: said Tuesdays are abused Tuesdays or Abuesdays? Tuesdays are fuck 1342 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: you ruined. The end of the show. Bye you say 1343 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: bye after Tim Burton. Please flip the cassette over to 1344 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: side B to continue the adventure. Now it's time for 1345 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: girls jumping on tram Bapa Leans