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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, sincey three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go our number two, the Friday Edition,

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Speaker 2: the good Friday Edition since he three to sixty ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We kick it off the

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Speaker 2: only way we know how to do it on a

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Speaker 2: Friday afternoon and hour number two here with our good

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Speaker 2: friend Charlie Goldsmith joining us right now.

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Speaker 3: Charlie. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? How are you? Tony?

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Speaker 3: Charlie? Could not be better.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started right away with what happened last night

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Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Reds. Nicklodolo, in a rehab start with Daytona,

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Speaker 2: goes two and two thirds, does not allow a hit,

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Speaker 2: strikes out four. He was set to throw sixty to

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Speaker 2: sixty five pitches, but had to leave the game because

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Speaker 2: the blister issue has come back for Nick Loodolo. He

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Speaker 2: started the year on the injured list because of the blister.

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Speaker 2: He leaves last night start because of the blister. What's

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Speaker 2: the latest, if any, that we know about this now

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Speaker 2: with Nick Lodola.

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Speaker 4: Lodola's on the way to Texas, which was the plan initially,

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Speaker 4: but of course the tone has changed and he's today

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Speaker 4: going to sit with the coaches, sit with Harry Francona,

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Speaker 4: and try to figure out what the heck they're going

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Speaker 4: to do. It's a blister issue that's just been recurring,

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Speaker 4: that's been chronic over the course of his career. They've

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Speaker 4: tried a million things. Tito used the words today saying

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Speaker 4: like when they talk or is it something you're just

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Speaker 4: able to pitch through or are you not? And Lodolo

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Speaker 4: is going to drive a lot of that conversation. But

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Speaker 4: even using the idea of him pitching through it, that's

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Speaker 4: still a huge gas because the skin where the blister

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Speaker 4: develops is kind of the skin he uses to make

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Speaker 4: it breaking ball a leak. So it's just kind of

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Speaker 4: a tricky situation and just tough for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Is one of the things that they've tried a new

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Speaker 5: grip on that breaking ball. Is that something that or

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Speaker 5: is that like break glass in case of emergency, have

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Speaker 4: I know he made a bit of a shift in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four after he had a blister during the

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Speaker 4: summer and that correction ended up with him suffering a

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Speaker 4: season ending finger injury, kind of to the neighboring finger,

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Speaker 4: I believe, the middle finger. So like there's really no

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Speaker 4: good answer there. And then if he changes the breaking ball, well,

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Speaker 4: then is he able to get as much swinging this

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Speaker 4: he's all of a sudden learning a new pitch on

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Speaker 4: the fly, Like it's another thing. Like we've made all

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Speaker 4: these technological advancements with all sorts of medical stuff, but blisters, man,

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Speaker 4: they're just kind of their whole own world that Lodola

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Speaker 2: It's such an unknown world, and it's a problem that

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Speaker 2: has persisted for Nick Lodolo, and I think to the point,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to change what makes you so elite.

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Speaker 2: That's his off speed, that's his breaking pitches to go

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Speaker 2: that goes into it. So when you look at a

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Speaker 2: situation like this, it feels like there's just not an

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Speaker 2: answer right now, or there's not a right answer right

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Speaker 2: now for how to attack this in the next steps.

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Speaker 4: And that's why they're just gonna meet and talk it

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Speaker 4: out today. And hopefully we talked to Liddila at some

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Speaker 4: point today. If not, that'll be tomorrow. Kind of about

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Speaker 4: the decisions than the understanding of where they're at. But

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Speaker 4: you know, they can try some stuff like, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: give this a shot, maybe it'll help with the blister.

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Speaker 4: And of course those haven't you know, nothing's worked. They've

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Speaker 4: maybe they'll find something new. Maybe they'll try something new,

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Speaker 4: maybe they let it heal, maybe they have them try

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Speaker 4: to pitch through it and lean more on the change up.

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Speaker 4: But they're just gonna have to kind of have a

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Speaker 4: meeting in the mind too.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously something that he would not have been cleared

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Speaker 2: didn't think he was out one hundred percent? Does this

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Speaker 2: make it worse that it happened on the same finger?

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Speaker 2: Is it better that it wasn't a new finger? How

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Speaker 4: It's always been on the same finger. It's the way

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Speaker 4: that you know, like helped him, you know, make it

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Speaker 4: same things. So what do you do?

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Speaker 5: So now, what's the trickle down effect of that on

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Speaker 5: the rest of the rotation and the pitching staff. We

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Speaker 5: obviously know that that the bullpen has been under a

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Speaker 5: immediate aftermath the Red's pitching staff.

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Speaker 4: They're just gonna keep doing what they're doing from uh,

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Speaker 4: obviously they've got five guys in the rotation, but I'm

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Speaker 4: worried about the team length. Terry Francona spoke today about

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Speaker 4: Jose Franco. He's just starting pitching prospect and if someone

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Speaker 4: Like he's kind of the next man it up, but

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Speaker 4: he's not completely built up right now because he's a

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Speaker 4: long reliever. Po is talking today about it's kind of

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Speaker 4: a non ideal spot to be either where you have

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Speaker 4: otherwise be getting a triple A. So you've got that,

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Speaker 4: and then after Fronco, it's petty and agiar, who's been

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Speaker 4: struggling in who's a lot to work under their own right,

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Speaker 4: they're one injury away from being in a very very

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Speaker 4: very you know stot they that they wouldn't have projected

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Speaker 2: Talk about what it does to the starting rotation. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the bullpen a little bit. What are your

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Speaker 2: early takeaways six games in of what this bullpen has

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Speaker 4: It's not settled yet and in terms of like the

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Speaker 4: roles weren't set, but like Pegan is still getting stretched out,

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Speaker 4: it's been the splitter that's been in more than the

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Speaker 4: plan in spring, that leads to you need and guys

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Speaker 4: like Connor Phillips to step up. I'm a big Connor

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Speaker 4: I mean, Ashcraft's probably gonna be next. He's kind of

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Speaker 4: like the next man up to get another leverage opportunity

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Speaker 4: or a bigger leverage opportunity. But it's a bullpen that

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Speaker 4: that's been good, Johnathan Burke, you kind of know what

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Speaker 4: problem as a whole with this fullpen, which has been

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Speaker 4: something on Tito's mind every single day and has shown

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Speaker 2: I have to ask when you look at this lineup,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk about today's lineup in particular, but you've

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Speaker 2: seen a number of players off to slower starts for

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. And again it's just a six game

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Speaker 2: sample size, but have you seen anything from some of

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Speaker 2: these slower starts that would cause more concern than maybe

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Speaker 2: some of the other slow starts.

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Speaker 4: I went back and I watched the film yesterday, kind

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Speaker 4: of went back through a lot of these at back.

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Speaker 4: Like I think Sears had bad luck. I think that TJ.

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Speaker 4: Friedel he's chasing more than he ever has, and the

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Speaker 4: quality of contact and the long at back haven't been

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Speaker 4: It's a lesson. So like DJ's someone that's on my

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Speaker 4: mind in that way, Ellie, I think it's too soon

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Speaker 4: Obviously you get the same number of that back as

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Speaker 4: everyone else, But I don't see a trend with him Hayes.

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Speaker 4: When I talk to him about his swing in the

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Speaker 4: for him, He's had a slow start. More than anything, though,

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried at all about this lineup step. I

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Speaker 4: just think the lineup needs like more, very more guys

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Speaker 5: How do you how do they get to that point?

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Speaker 5: Like do you do you feel like they're capable of

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's a different for Marte who

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Speaker 4: into like playing exactly like the guy he is. I

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Speaker 4: think part of that you for hid is he needs

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Speaker 4: to just take his hits the other way again, I

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Speaker 4: think Spencer Steer is the guy who start getting unlucky.

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Speaker 4: Stevenson needs to hip a strikeout right down, Like it's

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Speaker 4: a different thing for all of them. But this the

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Speaker 4: line I'm gonna keep using is they need more guys

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Speaker 4: who's rating are like an eighty five to eighty eight

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Speaker 4: MLB the show. And of course that's like completely subjective,

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Speaker 4: I think, but you know what I'm trying to say, like,

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Speaker 4: a lot of the season's going to build off.

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Speaker 5: So let let me use that analogy then. For example,

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Speaker 5: so Noel vi Marte, his contact and power versus RHP,

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Speaker 5: it feels like he's stuck in a platoon, which means

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Speaker 5: he's almost exclusively, not always, but almost exclusively facing left handers.

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Speaker 5: He's in the lineup again today against the left hander.

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Speaker 5: What's the thought process behind that is he needs reps

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Speaker 4: think he needs reps against left season. They're giving him

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Speaker 4: the reps against lefties, and I think the biggest reason

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Speaker 2: To switch gears for a moment, Charlie, twenty days, six

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Speaker 2: We'll be remissed not to get your opinion on the

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Speaker 3: Who do you like?

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Speaker 4: I like the line Jerrick Calhoun used, I think he

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Speaker 4: listening to this the positional size, yes, and that as

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Speaker 2: Charlie, the draft less than three weeks away, red season

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Speaker 4: We have Charlie's shalkboard on Subjack in Fox nineteen and

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Speaker 2: Charlie, you're the best is it's not the same as

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Speaker 2: getting to see you across from me for an hour

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Speaker 2: like last week, but nonetheless we appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Hope you have a great weekend as well. Thanks Charlie.

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Speaker 2: There he is Charlie Goldsmith all over the coverage right now.

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Speaker 2: That's that's some good clarity on the reds. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean everything has to be on the table, yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot even imagine. We will take our first

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: Press the microphone and record your message or Austin in.

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Speaker 3: Tone, Please keep it clean and don't be mean.

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Speaker 6: play those talkbacks on your screen and please drive out

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Speaker 6: to sabotage.

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Speaker 2: The Friday edition of Your Talkbacks happens right now. ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: This is Scott from Reading and I have a message

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Speaker 3: from Red's pitcher Nick Lodolo. Oh thanks Nick. Did I

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Speaker 3: expect to hear from Nick?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, tough guys, Pickahunick Kentucky. The Bengals got better yesterday.

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Speaker 7: He loved the two sounding, especially Duger. He allows you

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Speaker 7: to take the best player available in the draft because

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Speaker 7: he could play linebacker, safety, Nicko, what do no matter

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Speaker 7: what he plays? At CVG. This morning seen Richard Bertino

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Speaker 7: and his family. Maybe a little trip to the Bahamas.

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Speaker 7: He's not going to the final four. Surely they're not

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Speaker 7: flying up there. Maybe he went to the final four

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Speaker 7: and now he's back going there before the portal season hits.

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Speaker 7: Never know what Richard's up to and Tony has your

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Speaker 7: nephew do it?

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Speaker 3: Hopefully doing well? Any things that oak the Green this summer.

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Speaker 3: Loved the event last year. Well, I thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that we are we're actually just talking right now.

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Speaker 2: My sister has taken the steps with the five oh

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Speaker 2: one three C. I think it is to create an

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Speaker 2: actual foundation where they can do some really good stuff

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Speaker 2: to give back to families that are in similar situations.

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Speaker 2: Roman is kind of a week to week, month to

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Speaker 2: month case right now, where you know some sometimes when

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Speaker 2: when the blood is drawn and the work comes back,

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Speaker 2: it's great. Other times he's had to do some hospital stays,

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Speaker 2: so it's a fluid situation. But thank you for asking,

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Speaker 2: and ideally we can get something on the calendar again

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Speaker 2: this summer.

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Speaker 8: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And well, Lodolo

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Speaker 8: and Green have me questioning my trust in the Red's

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Speaker 8: medical staff. In fact, the Red's medical staff just dropped

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Speaker 8: in my trust rankings. Behind long range weather forecasters and

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Speaker 8: the war in commission.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is not where you want to fall at all.

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Speaker 3: Damn it. That is funny. Hey guys, Ken from Keenland here.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 9: It's the first day, opening day the Spring Meet. Although

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Speaker 9: it looks a little damned right now, But come on

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Speaker 9: out and see us. You can find me in section

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Speaker 9: A of the grand stand. Also, I want to wish

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Speaker 9: Talk Back Nation a very happy and blessed Easter season.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, go Rids. Thank you Ken. Good to hear

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Speaker 3: from you. Ken. I tuned in Monday this week. I

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Speaker 3: heard Tony, but I didn't hear Austin. Immediately I was.

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Speaker 10: Like, promise me, Tone, not to do the show alone.

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Speaker 10: It's always more fun when there's two. I remember Iron

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Speaker 10: Shee and I love Commissioner Squeak. Oh, I love Sheila Gray,

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Speaker 10: John Michael.

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Speaker 4: And Ken Brew.

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Speaker 10: I love mo Vaughn, Pete Rose Invite the Blue.

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Speaker 5: Wow, he's got an incredible memory. A mo Vaughn reference,

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Speaker 5: Von and Commissioner Squeak at the same time in a

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Speaker 5: blue And there are people who listen to us a

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Speaker 5: lot who don't know about Commissioner Squeak.

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Speaker 3: Nope, in his fifteen minutes of fame.

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Speaker 11: Oh well, se it's the Lord Happy Eastern talkback Nation. Hey,

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Speaker 11: Tony Austin, you mentioned yesterday that you wish you had

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Speaker 11: more chances to do remote sessions. Start bench cut, doing

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Speaker 11: a remote session out of state, doing a remote remote

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Speaker 11: session in state, doing a session in studio.

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Speaker 3: I'd probably like to keep it in state. I'll start that.

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Speaker 2: I will bench out of state because there are opportunities

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Speaker 2: throughout the year, like the NFL Combine as the home

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals. Will be nice to travel to Indiana

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Speaker 2: out of state and do a remote there, and I

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Speaker 2: will cut in studio.

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be Oh no, okay, thankful, Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Jim and Melford.

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Speaker 12: I want to hear my voice on the radio. Yep, hey,

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Speaker 12: start bench cut. What does FC Cincinnati normally score in

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Speaker 12: a game?

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Speaker 3: Zero? What are we doing?

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Speaker 12: Zero?

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Speaker 4: One?

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Speaker 3: I'll start one. He wants to wants to hear his voice.

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Speaker 3: I'll start one.

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Speaker 13: Jim, Oh me so hungry, Oh me, so hungry.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Jerry Jones. Man just gonna move that the.

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Speaker 4: Top back yesterday saying that they would rather listen to

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Speaker 4: mic from lab on and on and on.

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Speaker 10: About nothing relevant instead of anything else.

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Speaker 3: He Cincinnati related. Who are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you Mike from LA's nephew or brother?

522
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Speaker 3: Like nobody wants to hear.

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Speaker 4: That I ran a whole presidential campaign to get Mic

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Speaker 4: off the air.

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Speaker 3: But no, he's still here and.

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Speaker 4: Austin can't get mad at me. I call in, I

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Speaker 4: call in.

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Speaker 5: I'm not mad at you. I don't get mad at

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Speaker 5: I don't. I've changed my old age. I'm not the same.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, fat him, thank.

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Speaker 4: You, jar and for anyone that's deadshall you're beating me, Johnny,

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Speaker 4: poor Mike.

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Speaker 3: No, it's called reading a room.

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Speaker 10: Mike.

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Speaker 4: Don't call in every day. Don't spend five bless minutes

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Speaker 4: talking about.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you think about.

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Speaker 4: If the Reds win, call in and talk about the Reds. Heck,

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Speaker 4: I rather listen to talk Bac matters guy some days

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Speaker 4: than Mike from LA. So this is Johnny's Friday Fireball Edition. Guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm really not this mean, guys. I'm a pretty.

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Speaker 5: Nice Johnny is uh incredible, He's great. He's my gosh

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Speaker 5: uh seg would say he's got the rump the.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, man, it really really thinks about Nicole Dowla getting

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Speaker 14: all these blesters.

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Speaker 15: Any saying like, the only thing I can think of

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Speaker 15: is maybe, uh.

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Speaker 4: You should probably try like some bowl tracks and stuff,

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Speaker 4: because that helped my mom with her blister.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good to know.

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Speaker 16: Happy Friday, jimfer Anderson, Jimbo. I'm with Tony on kicking

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Speaker 16: the tires on Trevor Bower.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, oh.

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Speaker 16: No blistering up every other day. What does it hurt

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Speaker 16: to bring in a former ILB all start have a

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Speaker 16: shot at the team. He's only thirty five playing a

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Speaker 16: thirty five year old still throw and throw well in

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Speaker 16: this league. I know he's got some major off the

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Speaker 16: field and clubhouse issues. Hopefully's passed the clubhouse issues maturity

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Speaker 16: at this age. I think the only reason teams aren't

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Speaker 16: bringing them in is because of the off the field stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think the only reason teams aren't bringing him in

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Speaker 2: is probably his performance last year.

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Speaker 3: Probably there's a lot of reasons why they're not bringing in.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he was working on stuff he had, if I'm

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Speaker 5: not mistaken, the highest ERA in NPB last year, which

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Speaker 5: is a pretty good league, and I've always been working

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Speaker 5: on stuff. I don't know this to be true, but

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Speaker 5: I've it's always been explained to me that there are

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Speaker 5: there's a lot more stuff that would come out if

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Speaker 5: he were to come back to Major League Baseball, and

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Speaker 5: teams are are they know that Basically, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if that's true, but they have just looked that in

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Speaker 5: and said not worth it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, just a short and sweet quick one. Wish you guys,

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Speaker 17: all the listeners, talkbackers, everybody a happy, safe Easter. And

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Speaker 17: to pose a quick question, what do you guys do

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Speaker 17: with the dyed eggs afterwards? Does everybody just eat multicolored

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Speaker 17: deviled eggs like me? Or do you get more uh

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Speaker 17: more inventive trying to avoid some egg farts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll tell you what, I'll never eat deviled eggs.

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Speaker 2: Every few yearsably a good scrambled egg. But unfortunately, I

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Speaker 2: think I want to say, my brother someone else in

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Speaker 2: the family just houses the eggs after they're done, but

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Speaker 2: not not in the pike, Hossole.

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Speaker 18: Deviled eggs are horrible be development in baseball this century.

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Speaker 18: The institution of the pitch clock, worst development, the automatic

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Speaker 18: runner on second base in extra innings. Terrible feels like

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Speaker 18: t ball. I know you don't want the nineteen inning games.

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Speaker 18: The good or two in the morning, but that's part

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Speaker 18: of baseball lore and history. Get rid of the automatic

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Speaker 18: runner on second base in extra innings.

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Speaker 2: I caught the tail end of most conversation about ABS

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Speaker 2: yesterday and he made mention, you know, with a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff, Rob Manford gets criticized with as much criticism

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Speaker 2: as he should take. I do feel like the pitch

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Speaker 2: clock and I do feel like ABS are things that

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Speaker 2: he should be commended for.

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Speaker 5: I agree, and I don't I have I like the

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Speaker 5: extra innings rule. I don't mind it as much as

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Speaker 5: other people either.

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Speaker 3: I know that people don't.

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Speaker 5: I'm not can with hand it, and like my argument

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Speaker 5: for college football over time is that I think it

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Speaker 5: fundamentally changes the way the game is played and takes

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Speaker 5: something away entirely, and that's special teams. And I think

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Speaker 5: you could apply that same logic to baseball. So I

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Speaker 5: understand how in a way, I'm speaking out of both

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Speaker 5: sides of my mouth, which is hard to do. It

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Speaker 5: is a sport where I just it just I think

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Speaker 5: it makes sense to do it the way they do it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe if you want to put a guy at first instead,

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Speaker 5: maybe that would help a little bit. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: but I like the idea of the extragy well, and

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Speaker 5: there's also games where it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't mind it.

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Speaker 15: You know, listening to Charlie talk about Nick Lidola a

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Speaker 15: little bit of a I guess light bulb went off

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Speaker 15: of my head. Right, So you got to manage this

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Speaker 15: guy somehow, some way. Well, let's limit his pitches, maybe

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Speaker 15: make him the closer or at least the setup guy.

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Speaker 15: I'm doesn't have his stuff Phillips, We don't know yet.

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Speaker 15: Why not make Nick Lidolo the closer, fastball, change up,

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Speaker 15: get rid of the breaking ball so much, sprinkle it

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Speaker 15: in a little drip drip occasionally. But how about that

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Speaker 15: for managing Nick?

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Speaker 2: I think that maybe, as crazy as it sounds, is

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Speaker 2: something that would have to be on the table when

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Speaker 2: they get together in Texas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everything should be on the table. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know if he would want to

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Speaker 3: do that. I don't know it. Just where do we

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Speaker 3: go from here?

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Speaker 11: From the grove?

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Speaker 14: I think Lodoldo in the bullpen has probably got to

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Speaker 14: be the move. My agree, it's ridiculous talking about it.

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Speaker 14: But the blisters, it seems like they form later in

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Speaker 14: the game. Probably around the fourth or fifth in on

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Speaker 14: if he comes in for one or two wings out

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Speaker 14: of the bullpen. I mean, that'd be a hell of

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Speaker 14: a guy coming out, but that might be the answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything on the table, I think is a fair

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Speaker 2: way to look at it.

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Speaker 19: Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond. Happy Friday, Jeff. I

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Speaker 19: hope you guys have a great Easter weekend and everybody,

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Speaker 19: all the talkbackers, callers, listeners, have a safe weekend out there. Hey,

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Speaker 19: I just saw that Tommy Lloyd is staying at Arizona.

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Speaker 19: Wanted to get your guys' thoughts on that he turned

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Speaker 19: down North Carolina. They're running out of people to get.

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Speaker 19: I'm just wondering your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Take care.

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Speaker 5: Did he officially turn it down? I haven't seen that,

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Speaker 5: but it's I'm sure that's possible. CBS Sports.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, CBS Sports has said that Tommy Lloyd's staying

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Speaker 2: at Arizona as he turns down a massive offer from

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Okay, so according to CBS Sports in Mountain Orlander,

657
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Speaker 2: that's a thing.

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Speaker 5: I wonder who the pivot would be too, Wes not Wes. Yeah,

659
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Speaker 5: the joke is you got to make Brad Stevens say no,

660
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Speaker 5: you probably got to make Jay Wright say no. You

661
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Speaker 5: probably at least ask about Danny Hurley. Michigan is apparently

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Speaker 5: close to locking up Dusty May, and you maybe break

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Speaker 5: up that relationship.

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Speaker 2: In this CBS Sports article, it says that Tommy Lloyd's

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Speaker 2: new salary will be seven point two million dollars next year,

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Speaker 2: and that will be substantially less what UNC was prepared

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Speaker 2: to offer him. So, okay, maybe it's not as good.

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Speaker 12: I too don't like the guy at second base and

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Speaker 12: extra innings. I say, load debates is up.

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Speaker 3: You want to make things interesting? Yeah, top ten basis

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Speaker 3: I make it.

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Speaker 14: Pushback on the extra inning rule is they don't enforce

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Speaker 14: it in the postseason. If you're going to have a

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Speaker 14: rule in the regular season, then have the rule. If

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Speaker 14: you don't want the rule in the postseason, they don't

676
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Speaker 14: have the rule at all. You can't have both, And

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Speaker 14: I am definitely anti that.

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Speaker 3: I get a little bit of that.

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Speaker 2: But like, if you look at like soccer and other sports,

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Speaker 2: they do extra time. They have games that end in

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Speaker 2: ties and then you get to the postseason, it's a shootout.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hockey's like this too. Right for during the regular season.

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Speaker 5: It's three on three. Okay, So why does this happen?

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Speaker 5: The well, careful reason't make three on three. I'll get people,

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Speaker 5: big man.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: The reason this happens is because of the length of

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Speaker 5: the season. Yeah, and there's already tons of issues with

689
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Speaker 5: pitchers and arms and injuries and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 5: So would you take a shortened season in exchange for

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Speaker 5: the rule going back to the way it was, shorten

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Speaker 5: it by ten, twelve fifteen games?

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Speaker 3: Good question. I don't know. That's it for today. All right, two.

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Speaker 5: Seconds go to cover some UFL rules. Later on we

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Speaker 5: look at the US some of the UFL rules for

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Speaker 5: this year. I have not there's like a four point

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Speaker 5: field goal and oh boy, certain times you can and

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Speaker 5: can't punt.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I got to ask you about that. Two segments,

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Speaker 2: one segment, one segment. When we returned and Tom Gallairder

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Speaker 2: will join us along with Bob Manjean and Moagar all

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Speaker 2: on our number three ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 3: Allergy season.

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Speaker 5: Right around the corner, Tom, Yeah, have you experienced this yet?

705
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Speaker 3: I've experienced theologies already like so far like this, I

706
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Speaker 3: know you've had in the past.

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Speaker 2: But alogies put a strain on my marriage. I know

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Speaker 2: that they kick your butt, kill me.

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Speaker 3: Have you is it? Is it started yet? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I had recently. You know,

711
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Speaker 2: you turn forty, a lot of things change in your life.

712
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Speaker 2: I had some blood work done to make sure, oh

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Speaker 2: I'm where I need to be, and like, two of

714
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Speaker 2: my numbers came back abnormal, and you immediately it's nature.

715
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Speaker 2: You google what those numbers can be and you think

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Speaker 2: the worst, and uh, both of mine came down to

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Speaker 2: allergies just wiping me out already.

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Speaker 5: So have you ever had one of those like allergy

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Speaker 5: tests where they like do a bunch of pricks in

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Speaker 5: your back basically.

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Speaker 3: You've had that happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing helps Anyways, I'm I'm kind of going through

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Speaker 5: something as we speak. I don't know if you know

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Speaker 5: you saw it when you came in here, but I

725
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Speaker 5: have these eye drops. Yeah, my eyes have been in

726
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Speaker 5: horrible shape for the last two or three weeks, and uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, I keep getting that like mucus and that

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Speaker 5: like crust, and then they're just they're just uncomfortable and

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Speaker 5: dry and all of a sudden, So I just had

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Speaker 5: an out of body experience putting in these eye drops

731
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Speaker 5: during the commercial break. Oh, and it's just the instant relief.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like I can't see.

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Speaker 2: My biggest thing with eyes struggling with Like if I'm

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Speaker 2: golfing and I don't take allergy medicine, the amount of

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Speaker 2: itching and swelling that comes to my eyes.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out is this allergies? Is it

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Speaker 3: dry eyes?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're in the bathroom, You're you're washing the

739
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Speaker 2: eyes out. It's brutal.

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Speaker 5: I also hate working out with my glasses on. But

741
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Speaker 5: I was talking to my my buddy as an optometrist,

742
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Speaker 5: and he's like, you probably should go like a week

743
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Speaker 5: without taking putting your contacts in.

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Speaker 3: Hmm. I was like, damn it, what about uh? Real quick?

745
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Speaker 14: Now?

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Speaker 2: Based on Jeff's talk back, Pete Dammel announcing it is

747
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: confirmed Tommy Lloyd will be back at Arizona. He's gonna

748
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Speaker 2: be one of the top five highest paid coaches in

749
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Speaker 2: college basketball. So if you think of the Big twelve Austin,

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Speaker 2: we made to mention Jered Cajoune coming to Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 2: there's unknowns with Houston and Kansas and Arizona. We know

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Speaker 2: everything now the coaches are coming back.

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Speaker 5: So what will happen is North Carolina will get like

754
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Speaker 5: a placeholder guy and then next year will be a

755
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Speaker 5: full fledge assault on West Miller, Jared camp Calhoun, negative Calhoun,

756
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Speaker 5: a couple of Bengals things name streets after him.

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Speaker 3: One Bengal thing.

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Speaker 5: The NFL just sent this out is official. The off

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Speaker 5: season workout dates for the Bengals. Oh are you ready

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Speaker 5: for this?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 5: First day of offseason workouts April twentieth. Okay, I have

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Speaker 5: a feeling there may or may not be some random

764
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Speaker 5: drug testing that day across the National Football Oh yes, good. Anyways,

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Speaker 5: OTA off season workouts, two sets of OTAs. There's a

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Speaker 5: phase one, a phase two A phase. Phase one of

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Speaker 5: OTAs will be June first through the third. Okay, Phase

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Speaker 5: two will be June eleventh through or June ninth through

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Speaker 5: the eleventh, and Phase three, which is mandatory mini camp,

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Speaker 5: will be June sixteenth through the eighteenth for the Cincinnati Bengals. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you about the l Gilmore's retiring.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for more all pril UFL rules. Okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: The twenty twenty sixth season, the UFL featured unique rule changes. Oh,

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Speaker 5: and I want to get your thoughts on a few

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Speaker 5: of them.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 5: They have added a four point field goal. Field goals

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Speaker 5: kicked from sixty yards or further are worth four points.

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Speaker 3: Love it, you're in on this? Oh? Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I was watching a game last weekend and this dude

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Speaker 5: blasted one. I think it was like a sixty four yarder. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: probably would have been good from seventy and four points.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a big swing.

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Speaker 3: In the game. I'm in. I'm in.

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Speaker 5: How about this one? No punting inside the fifty yard line.

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Speaker 3: I despise punting anyway for that.

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Speaker 5: If you are in plus territory, yeah, you are in

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Speaker 5: the opponent's side of the fifty. Punts are not allowed

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Speaker 5: except inside the two minute warning. Zach Taylor would never

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Speaker 5: sign off on that. No tush push the quarterback sneak

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Speaker 5: play involving players pushing the quarterback from behind a band

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Speaker 5: stop it.

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Speaker 2: I disagree. I'm okay with the toush push. I hate

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Speaker 2: punting inside the fifty.

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Speaker 3: Only one footed for a catch.

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Speaker 2: You imagine some of these NFL wide receivers what they

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00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: could pull off of They just got to get one

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Speaker 2: foot down.

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Speaker 5: I like the two feet overtime is teams alternating attempts

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Speaker 5: from the five yard line. Each success is two points

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Speaker 5: and it's a best of three. Okay, so if you

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Speaker 5: get two stops and you convert one, you win. Oh

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Speaker 5: my goodness, Aaron Judge just hit a home run about

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Speaker 5: nine hundred feet. Took my breath away.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind that.

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Speaker 5: Three attempts. I hate it, but it's interesting. I would

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Speaker 5: almost like that more than the college football version. And

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Speaker 5: then this one for the pat After a touchdown, teams

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Speaker 5: can choose a one point kick, a two point play

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Speaker 5: from the two yard line, or a three point play

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Speaker 5: from the ten yard line.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, okay, I like the creativity.

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Speaker 5: Is there any of these that you would like to

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Speaker 5: see brought into the national footb Yeah, league.

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Speaker 2: Don't kick inside the fifty and I'm okay with four

816
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Speaker 2: point field goals sixty plus.

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Speaker 5: I wonder about it because everything else probably know sixty

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Speaker 5: is relatively routine for a lot of guys, now, is it.

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Speaker 3: It's not like.

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Speaker 5: It's just not out of the realm of possibility. Okay,

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Speaker 5: like what I might have to look up the numbers,

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Speaker 5: but it felt like there were more sixty yard field

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Speaker 5: goals made last year than ever before. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: think of with Jerry Jones, if Duck Quack's feed it,

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Speaker 5: that would help them well.

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Speaker 3: And Brandon Aubrey.

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Speaker 5: But also here's why teams would probably hate it is

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Speaker 5: now Brandon Aubrey's rate just went up even more. That's

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Speaker 5: true because he's a guy that can provide more value

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Speaker 5: to your team.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of providing value to the team, can I give

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Speaker 2: you some of these names that the NFL draft have

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Speaker 2: given player comps too?

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Speaker 3: Matt Miller? Can I give you some of these I'm

835
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Speaker 3: not sure what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: So they take a player that's going to be drafting,

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Speaker 2: they give his current NFL comparison, Okay, Fernando Mendoza Matt

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Speaker 2: Miller's comparison, Joe Burrow laughable.

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love Wait, why he ain't no Joyah, explain it.

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Speaker 2: One year after zero quarterbacks had a true first round grade,

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Speaker 2: there is one in this class. Mendoza transferred Indiana and

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00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: developed into a Heisman winning quarterback outstanding pocket poise, expert level,

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00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: touched all areas of the field. His favorite trade his

844
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Speaker 2: ability to put the ball up for his receivers to

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Speaker 2: make plays.

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Speaker 3: Armstrength will never be elite.

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Speaker 2: Mendoza protects the ball and is a great distributor forty

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Speaker 2: one touchdown, six picks, and his game is very similar

849
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Speaker 2: to Burrow thanks to his deadly accuracy, poison the pocket,

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Speaker 2: and pension for making big plays.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. I just think Burrows. I don't

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Speaker 3: think his ceiling is close to Burrow. I wouldn't agree.

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Speaker 5: I would agree with that, but like, just based off

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Speaker 5: the foundational fundamental piece here, I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll dive through a couple of these other ones later,

856
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Speaker 2: but Matt Miller is not afraid Austin to throw some

857
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Speaker 2: very prestigious comparisons out there. Good for him for these

858
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Speaker 2: first round NFL Draft prospects. We've got to get a break.

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Speaker 2: Tom Gallairder, the voice of FC Cincinnati, stands by to

860
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: join us, and then we'll get with Bob Manjean. That

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Speaker 2: starts our two or hour three next on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Man, we all know how importance