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Speaker 1: It'd be like the old players never existed. In for sure,

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Speaker 2: For sure, those guys want paid.

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Speaker 1: They're not a union in the teamster sense, in the

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Speaker 1: We're doing a thing tomorrow, me and Tom. Tom's gonna

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Speaker 1: partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Brian and South Hills. Brian, you're all

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Speaker 2: with Mark, Hey, Mark.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna revert back to the discussion about Robertson and

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Speaker 4: the possible trade there. I know it's just rumors, but

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Speaker 5: Situation At this moment.

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Speaker 6: You can pull roberts in, but you know, what's it

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not making the trade for this year. It

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Speaker 1: would help this year, no doubt about that, But moorshoffs

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Speaker 2: Berber a, Hi, thank you, thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You always wrote and he'll talk to me about this

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour that the Penguins might

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't trade for him unless he signed a

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Dick, Dick. You're on with double M

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Speaker 2: So Bill Garon may not be the end. I'll be

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Speaker 5: But when you are third in the hot National Hockey

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: I love I love Billy, I love Billy g and

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Speaker 1: what they both did for the Penguins. Their their selection

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Speaker 1: going to work and leaving roberts noof Heck, they had

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jim. Jim, you're all with.

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Speaker 7: Mark Hey so, uh, I think I'm taking crazy pills

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Speaker 7: because I mean Mike McCarthy, I realize that he's you know,

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Speaker 7: like the clear best resume. And I just worry that,

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Speaker 7: you know, the same old woke Steelers they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna in terms of in terms of right this second.

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Speaker 1: Well you heard Jerry, he says woke has nothing to

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Speaker 1: But but McCarthy sixty two, Bro, I mean, you could

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy sixty too, He'll be he'll be dead soon.

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Speaker 7: So instead of getting a good coach, they're gonna get

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Speaker 7: someone that's unproven just to ap prove some kind of

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Speaker 1: Oh that's just stupid and f you. F everything about you,

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Speaker 1: you piece of trash. Goodbye. This is football, not the

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Speaker 1: McLaughlin group. Actually, the McLauchlan group would have been intelligent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Rooney rules a tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But but this this notion's gonna come

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Speaker 1: sixty two. I mean, at what point is it about

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Speaker 2: At what point do the Steelers do that?

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Speaker 1: At what point do they think but they don't because

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm not kidding about the replacement players

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Speaker 1: They're gonna cross the picket line. Replace players with a

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Speaker 1: It would be easy to break that strike. There would

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Speaker 1: The NHL lost the whole season because of a workstopage

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Speaker 1: it to be, still an each type thing, and more

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Speaker 1: As I keep saying about the potential for a baseball

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Speaker 1: The salary floor would facilitate that. It would guarantee that

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Speaker 1: thing that could happen to finally get Bob Nodding to

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Speaker 2: The voting doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It's the stars and their agents, and they convinced the

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Speaker 1: the stars. You know, really has done more to ruin

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Speaker 1: baseball than anybody. Scott Boris the super agent. He's done

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Speaker 1: a lot for his clients, but he's ruined baseball, no

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Speaker 2: Let's go to lou On Neville Island, lou your own

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Speaker 5: M mark and Robertson deal. Would you give up, say Kendall,

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Speaker 1: I would not give up my an eighteen year old.

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Speaker 1: It's already proven he can play in the league. Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: What would you give up? Can you be a little specific.

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Speaker 2: Like I want to give up maybe a couple first

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Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't want to give up Raquel, because if

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Speaker 1: It's probably a better way to put it, but I'd

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Speaker 5: They want some roster players that can help them this year,

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Speaker 5: if they're less interested in the young stuff. That's why

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Speaker 1: You're you're you're right, You're you're right about that. They

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Speaker 1: don't think they're going to get roberts And I just

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Speaker 1: it's always been part of Dubas's plan to get a

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Speaker 9: Hey, you were just talking about the salary cap in

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Speaker 1: Well no, but but the Phillies have been successful there.

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Speaker 1: You know, they won a World Series in recent memory.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely one other what the molky Bets. Mookie Bets

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 10: You know understand this year is the rebuild year, you

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Speaker 10: know what mirror show and stuff, and he is the

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Speaker 10: next year is going to be Mirrorshofs.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins right now, they would be They would do nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're supposed to do that, Jim.

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Speaker 5: No, okay, fair enough?

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Speaker 1: Kirchion said that baseball's gonna have a workstopping in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: I know that's true.

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Speaker 1: The players won't accept the cap, like Kirkchian said, but

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to if they want to play baseball again,

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Speaker 1: if the owners have any gumption, which just talking out loud.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't, but the union will always lose the

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Speaker 1: if the owners are strong. If the owner just say

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Speaker 1: no baseball until you agree to a salary cap, there

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Speaker 1: will be a salary cap because they own the stadiums,

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Speaker 1: they have the money. What are the players going to

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Speaker 1: just start their own league. I'd love to see that

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Speaker 1: Scott Boris could be committionioner since he's the one ruinning

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Speaker 1: MLB more than anybody. He really is. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Franken Westmoreland. Frank what do you want?

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Speaker 12: Hey, Mark, you know you're right. We don't see Edmonton

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Speaker 12: too much. But I was just thinking, like, do you

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Speaker 12: think McDavid's ever gonna win a Cup in Edmonton or

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Speaker 12: is there just like like being in Toronto, just so

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Speaker 12: much thinking pressure in trying to win a Cup up.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think there's the pressure in Edmonton there

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Speaker 1: is in Toronto. I think there's more pressure on the

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Speaker 1: Leafs to win a Cup than there is on any

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Speaker 1: team in any market to win a championship because it's

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Speaker 1: the largest hockey market in the world, the best hockey city,

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Speaker 1: and they haven't won a Cup since nineteen sixty seven.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's quite the same with McDavid.

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Speaker 1: I think the pressure is on McDavid more because he's

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Speaker 1: this great individual. So maybe, yeah, maybe he's an individual

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Speaker 1: the pressure is greater on him. But do I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win a Cup at Edmonton? No?

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Speaker 2: I don't, certainly not this year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He the Oilers have less points than the Penguins. It's

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Speaker 1: turned out that Tristan Jarry hasn't solved the problem and

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Speaker 1: goal and I just don't think so. I think he's gonna.

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Speaker 1: I didn't make David Will asked to be traded at

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Speaker 1: the end of this year.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 12: That's insane. It's so it's like when these Canadian teams

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Speaker 12: get in the whole country, it's just like they're expected

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Speaker 12: to perform. And I don't know who's gonna break that

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Speaker 12: streak eventually, but hopefully nobody.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Greg. Greg're oning with double.

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Speaker 3: M hey mark common question. First of all, I saw

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Speaker 3: you a couple of weeks ago at the basketball game,

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Speaker 3: and you don't need me to tell you from probably

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Speaker 3: man the weight loss. You look great?

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Speaker 2: Keep what at North Hills?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because that's uh, that's the only basketball I want.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I just tell you what they're up Marks. A quick

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Speaker 3: question on the on the salary. I think if the

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Speaker 3: baseball puts a salary cappen on the floor, all you're

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Speaker 3: gonna do is bring the sledge up from what you

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Speaker 3: have now. It's not going to make the game anymore competitive.

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Speaker 1: Because yeah, it absolutely will.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely will.

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Speaker 1: The if you had a salary cap, the l A

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Speaker 1: Dodgers wouldn't have eight players that are better than than

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's best in the lineup.

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Speaker 2: And they do the worst, the worst, the worst.

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Speaker 1: The worst l A player in their regular lineup is

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Speaker 1: better than Pittsburgh's best player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, But wouldn't that be a ceiling cap then,

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Speaker 3: not a not a floor, it would be a ceiling cap.

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Speaker 1: No, there has to be There has to be both.

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Speaker 1: A cap doesn't work without a floor and vice versa.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I agree. I thought you were just talking about

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Speaker 3: just a floor, and I just don't think that would work.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, why would Why would why would the why

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Speaker 1: would the MLB want just the floor that the spending

512
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Speaker 1: would even more go through the roof.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Seth. Seth. You're on with Mark, did they, sir?

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Speaker 2: I said, good day.

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Speaker 13: You hit the nail on the head about side McDavid,

516
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Speaker 13: I mean, honestly, like you're right about the sour push

517
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Speaker 13: stuff like Bettman's just not good with marketing NHL stars

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Speaker 13: in general. My question is like, how, like how was

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Speaker 13: it back in the day when Gretzky and Lemiu would

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Speaker 13: face off, Like was there any build up to that

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Speaker 13: when Gretzky was with Edmonton and Barrio here?

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Speaker 1: Honestly not like there should have been, because when gretz

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Speaker 1: was still in Edmonton, the Penguins weren't very good and

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Speaker 1: hockey never pushes the French guy like the English guy,

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Speaker 1: and anybody who's been around hockey for any amount of

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Speaker 1: time knows that to be absolutely true.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, if I can definitely see that.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't remember I said.

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Speaker 1: A short tripped because he's from Nova Scotia. The people

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Speaker 1: who on the NHL thinks hockey is Ontario and Western

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Speaker 1: Canada and that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's the list.

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Speaker 13: And what's funny is if said was a Mapela, they

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Speaker 13: would love him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sid wouldn't love being a maple leaf. I don't

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Speaker 2: think Sid.

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Speaker 1: I think Sid, at one time when he was a kid,

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Speaker 1: might have thought he'd loved being a Canadian, but he's

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Speaker 1: done just fine being in Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh's done just

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Speaker 1: fine by Sid being here. But yeah, I just can't

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Speaker 1: believe tonight's game between Sid and McDavid isn't on national TV.

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Speaker 1: I forget if the game in December was on national TV,

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Speaker 1: but not. None of it makes sense to me. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for the call.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know what I've been doing is blocking people on

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Speaker 1: Twitter that even slightly annoy me.

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Speaker 2: I blocked over fifty today.

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Speaker 1: Them is the rules. I'm in the home stretch. Ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna change don the doll. They're just talking about the

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Speaker 1: coaching search. You can go there if you don't like it.

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Speaker 1: A three three four one two WSDX. I guess we're

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Speaker 1: gonna as Mark Anything. Like I said for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the show, No idea what happened to Yoey? But

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Speaker 1: eight three three four one two w XDX Ask Mark

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Speaker 1: Anything one O five nine.

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Speaker 14: Time now to send in your questions for Ask Mark Anything,

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Speaker 14: use the talk back Mike on your free ieart radio

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Speaker 14: app and record your question for the super genius.

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Speaker 6: Tonight's the Pens go head to head against the Oilers.

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Speaker 1: Game time is nine.

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Speaker 2: Pregame starts at eight.

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Speaker 15: Listen to every game and the best Pens coverage on

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Speaker 15: your home in the Pittsburgh Penguins one O five nine DX.

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Speaker 8: This honor the Mark Madden Shows, brought to you by

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Speaker 8: Mickli Baltrom probably Madden.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Mark, great show is.

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Speaker 16: When you got a young trophy White, Oh's money to

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Speaker 16: I can't even quote the big o'bowski White Goodbye DX

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Speaker 16: at one O five nine.

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Speaker 1: This song was everywhere when I was in I think

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Speaker 1: seventh grade.

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Speaker 2: Deep Purple got.

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Speaker 1: Beyond Purple the tribute group Tonight at Jurgles, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be there. Smoke on the water Baby. We all went

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Speaker 1: down to Mantra. Now it's time to ask Mark anything.

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Speaker 1: What a great story told in this song, Just tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Deep Purple recording an album in Montro, Switzerland. They were

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Speaker 1: doing it at the casino and the casino burned down,

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Speaker 1: so they had.

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Speaker 2: To find another place. Swiss. Time was running out. It

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Speaker 2: seemed that we would lose the race.

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Speaker 1: Uh Anyway, if you see me at Gurgles, don't say

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Speaker 1: a word to me, least of all when the music

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Speaker 1: is playing. We got this big snowstorm coming. How do

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Speaker 1: we feel about that. I'll tell you we feel about that.

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Speaker 1: Every idiot in Pittsburgh, and that's most of you, will

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Speaker 1: be in Giant Eagle tonight and tomorrow getting milk and

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Speaker 1: toilet paper and I don't know what else, and the

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Speaker 1: storm will fizzle. You know what I do when there's

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Speaker 1: a big snowstorm coming, I don't go out and get anything.

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Speaker 1: If I have to all live by my wits, if

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Speaker 1: I have to all use well, there's no newspapers anymore.

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Speaker 1: The Post Gazette. I mean, that's where they let people down.

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Speaker 1: It would be perfect for toilet paper, no offense to

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Speaker 1: toilet paper. Actually, I'm I'm sad the Post because that's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna fold. The way the union handled it with

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Speaker 1: just you couldn't have done it worse, couldn't have done

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Speaker 1: it worse. And the union leaders that got voted out

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Speaker 1: now still think they're rights, which.

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Speaker 2: Is just pathetic. The whole thing was pathetic. Never should

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Speaker 2: have happened.

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Speaker 1: But so anyway, this snowstorm Sunday, I can't wait. I

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Speaker 1: hope it snow's like fifty seven inches. I hope we

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Speaker 1: are paralyzed for days, weeks, months, years, and then I

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Speaker 1: hope the Aliens invade after you know what's a big

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Speaker 1: game in hockey. We got tonight, we got the Penguins

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Speaker 1: in Edmonton sit against McDavid. But tomorrow night, for the

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Speaker 1: first time since even Toronto, Mitch Marner goes back there

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Speaker 1: with the Vegas gold Knights to play the Leafs. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he became a villain in Toronto,

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Speaker 1: but he seems.

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Speaker 2: To be because he left. Why wouldn't he leave?

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Speaker 1: No matter how good he did, it wasn't enough, not

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Speaker 1: for the fans, not for the team. He was the

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Speaker 1: team's best player, but they didn't realize that until now

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Speaker 1: he's gone.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Mitch Marner fan.

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Speaker 1: Here's another thing I want to say about the Steelers

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Speaker 1: coaching search, which we've talked about minimally today and thank god,

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Speaker 1: because until something happens, it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: How good do you think they're going to be next year?

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Speaker 1: How close to being a legitimate contender do you believe

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Speaker 1: they are to even winning a playoff game? Because they

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Speaker 1: didn't look real close when Houston sodomized them a week

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Speaker 1: ago this past Monday, didn't look real close. And how

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Speaker 1: much impact do you think the new coach is going

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Speaker 1: to have on accelerating the Steelers path back to being

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Speaker 1: legit no matter who that coach is.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts and.

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Speaker 1: End of your all of that eight three three four

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Speaker 1: one two w xdx. Let's go to seth.

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Speaker 12: Ty Mark.

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Speaker 15: I actually have a quick thought in a question. I

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Speaker 15: think the speed of the NHL game have grown the rink. Personally,

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Speaker 15: I would love to see the game played on Olympic

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Speaker 15: size RNK to open up the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't open up the game, bro, It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: What happens with a bigger rink, The puck stays away

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Speaker 1: from the nets more.

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Speaker 2: They just play the team with the puck to the

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Speaker 2: sides to the n boards. It's further away from the net.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't speed up the game and actually lessens the offense.

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Speaker 1: And that's been evident whenever, Like in the original couple

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Speaker 1: years when the NHL players went to the Olympics and

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Speaker 1: they used the Olympic size rinks, you saw that.

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Speaker 15: Okay, do you think having a floating blue line would

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Speaker 15: create the same effect?

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Speaker 1: What what do you like like like in ball hockey?

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Speaker 2: I think you're just stupid. Let's go to a callback.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Mark, with everything that's going on with the Ranges.

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Speaker 2: Will Mike Sullivan be fired after the season? He has,

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Speaker 2: like what a five or six year deal at a

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Speaker 2: jillion dollars a year, he might be.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to fire the GM first, Chris

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Speaker 1: Jory because he's done a horrible job. But Sally Man,

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Speaker 1: you look at him on the bench and you could

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Speaker 1: tell he doesn't know what to do, and you could

660
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: tell those guys aren't buying in. Does the ben a Jads,

661
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the Panerians? Peneran's going to get traded.

662
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: I bet it's not what Sally bargain for. But I

663
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: gotta be honest.

664
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Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, I think Salby's only a good

665
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: coach when he has the best team. I don't think

666
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: he can coach a lesser group up. I think he

667
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: proved that in the last how many years in Pittsburgh.

668
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I think he's proven it now in New York, although

669
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: that was not expected to be a lesser group.

670
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback from Ustralia.

671
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, with the World coming up this year, are you

672
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 8: as confident as some other American sports journalists about.

673
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 10: The American chances in the World Cup?

674
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: And I ghost soccer.

675
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: Rouse I am not the biggest USA soccer fan. I

676
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: just think Christian Polistic, who has been on this show,

677
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't find him particularly likable. I think he's overrated

678
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: because he's America's best player but couldn't get a game

679
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: at Chelsea. That tells you all you need to know.

680
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: America's best player couldn't start in the endless Premier League,

681
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: at least not for Chelsea FC. And you know I'm

682
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: a big believer in club sports over international play. If

683
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: you offered me a choice between the Penguins winning the

684
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup or the USA winning Olympic Gold, I take

685
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: the Penguins every time. If you offered me a choice

686
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: between Liverpool winning the Premier League or the US winning

687
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: the World Cup, he got picked Liverpool winning the League Cup,

688
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: the lowest trophy they try for, over the US winning

689
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: the World Cup. It's just my personal preference, although it

690
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: is my bucket list to see a World Cup game.

691
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: So I'm going to Morocco and Scotland in Boston in

692
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: a group stage game, and I'll be rooting for Scotland

693
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: because of Rod Stewart and Scottish captain Andy Robertson, who

694
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: won a bunch of trophies with Liverpool and still plays

695
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: for the club. Oh Andy, Andy, Andy, Andy, and Andy Roberts.

696
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: And let's go to a talkback Mark.

697
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 17: The peng was won pretty convincingly last night without Carlson

698
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 17: and Tang in the lineup. How prolemasing is that for

699
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 17: the future, Assuming Latang and Carlson are no longer with

700
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 17: the Penguins.

701
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't think either's going anywhere. I mean, they both

702
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: have contracts that extend beyond this season. I think it

703
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: was just one game. I think for this team to

704
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, they need both those guys back asap.

705
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: You know, you can have guys play.

706
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to say Jack sat Ivany was out

707
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: over Skis last night with the way he played, but

708
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: he probably was. And you can't count on him to

709
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: do that every night. You know, Adrenaline, a burst, chance,

710
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: more ice, all that stuff. It can add up to

711
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: a better performance. But again, consistency is what you need,

712
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: and that's why you need Carlson and Latang back. Asaph

713
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: eight three three four one two wxdx to number to

714
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: call seriously, col and tell me what I want to

715
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: know about the Steelers coaching situation, because it is being

716
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: seen as the biggest decision made in Pittsburgh sports and

717
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: how long. I don't think who's hired's going to get

718
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: things done anytime soon, maybe not get things done at all.

719
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: I think the ownership and the organizational philosophy is outdated

720
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: and weak.

721
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: So I ask you, how do.

722
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: You think the coaching hire is going to impact what

723
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: they do next year? Buildingto a legit contender? What has

724
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: to happen? How much difference can the coach make in

725
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: the context of what they prefer to do and certainly

726
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: what they have on hand? And I maintain wholeheartedly the

727
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: best thing that could happen could be a four and

728
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: thirteen season and another one. Please, if you want the

729
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: team to get to where it needs to go, look

730
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: at New England. Look at New England. They lost Brady

731
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: in two thousand, two thousand and six. Boy, Mike, I'm

732
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: old and I forget dates even and can't pronounce numbers properly. Uh,

733
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: they lost Brady in twenty twenty and they're already six

734
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: years later rebuilt to being a legit contender with a

735
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback.

736
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: You know what the Steelers did in that time?

737
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: Bupcus absolute Bupkus wasted those six years, wasted them. But

738
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: you know what you're saying, Well, we beat the patriage

739
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: this year.

740
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: FU one oh five.

741
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: Note John Ducks Steelers dot Com joining me now after

742
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: travel difficulties. He is in Edmonton, fresh off the Penguins

743
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: win at Calgary last night. He is Josh, Joey Josh.

744
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: The Penguins don't dazzle, but they sure do hang in there,

745
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: don't they. Last night was like just two kind of

746
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: man teams and one just had a few bigger moments

747
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: and certainly played more fundamentally sound.

748
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, Mark, I would I would direct you back to

749
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 8: the first game of the season in Madison Square Garden.

750
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 8: That was not an entertaining hockey game by any stretch,

751
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 8: but I think it might be the template for when

752
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 8: these Penguins are at their best. They actually do boring

753
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 8: pretty well, and they still have enough talent upfront they

754
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 8: can generate offense without trying to force it. And the

755
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 8: second this team tries to force it is when it struggles.

756
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 8: And you know, we saw the last couple of games

757
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 8: is good professional victories. In my opinion. I know Calgary's

758
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 8: not a great team. In fact, they're one of the

759
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 8: least talented teams in the league upfront. So I guess

760
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 8: the Penguins did what a good team should do against them.

761
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 8: But they played well. And when they play more of

762
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 8: a conservative, just intelligent style, like that's pretty good.

763
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: What is amping up that Gino line with Novak and Chinikov?

764
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: U it just fell together and took off straight away,

765
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: all three guys with a goal a piece last night.

766
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. Chinakov's pretty good. We

767
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 8: know he's fast, and we know he can really shoot

768
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 8: the tuck. But I was watching him a lot last night, Mark,

769
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 8: and his overall game is much better than I had realized.

770
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 8: He does little things like there's a subtlety to his game.

771
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 8: He takes hits to make plays. He's pretty good defensively.

772
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 8: He's got a feistiness about him. Like I thought this

773
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 8: was kind of a raw talented player and I wasn't

774
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 8: really sure what to make of him. But I don't

775
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 8: know that that's the case. I think maybe Columbus is

776
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 8: just a terrible franchise and he needed to get out

777
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 8: of there, because I think this is a really good

778
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 8: hockey player. And I've mentioned this too before, but Gino

779
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 8: told the coaching staff and Kyle Dubis last summer that

780
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 8: he wanted to play with noteback that he liked his game.

781
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 8: He thought there might be some kind of chemistry there.

782
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 8: And I'll tell you what there is right now. It's

783
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 8: been really impressive and the final piece of the puzzle.

784
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 8: Malcolm just has his legs this season in a way

785
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 8: that he hasn't in two or three years. He was

786
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 8: flying last night.

787
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: Mark one thing. It really was something good, not a

788
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: last night. Besides to win. The Penguins don't get rattled

789
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: no more like they conceded with two point sevens seconds

790
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: left in the second period, got their lead have to

791
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: two to one, but they scored fifty seconds into the

792
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: third from two nil to two to one to three one.

793
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Penguins would have done that a

794
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: month ago.

795
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 8: Funny you should say a month ago because I asked

796
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 8: a couple of guys in the room after the game

797
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 8: last night, why there's more composure, and every single one

798
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 8: of them said, Stuart Skinner, that's why when you have

799
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 8: a goaltender you can trust those things happen. And he

800
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 8: has been so good and I'm not suggesting he's the

801
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 8: long term answer because Like most goalies in the league,

802
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 8: his career has been pretty volatile, but when he's at

803
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 8: his best, there's a calmnist to his game. He doesn't

804
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 8: allow bad rebounds, he doesn't allow bad goals, doesn't allow

805
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 8: any rebounds right now, and he's given up eleven goals

806
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 8: in his last seven games, and he just has a

807
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 8: comming presence I think on the ice and off the

808
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 8: ice with this team, I think his impact cannot be overlooked,

809
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 8: and I think that's part of why they they responded

810
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 8: the way they did last night.

811
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree.

812
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: You know what Skinner's biggest qualification might be, He's.

813
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: Not Tristan Jari.

814
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Getting rid of Jari was long overdue, you know, ever

815
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: since he blew that playoff series in twenty twenty one

816
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: against the Islanders, he was the face of failure. Getting

817
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: rid of Jari was not only a big change in goal.

818
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: To me, it signified a change in culture.

819
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 8: No, I think it did. And the one thing about

820
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 8: Jari for all of those physical gifts, but when things

821
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 8: got tight in hockey games, he couldn't really trust him.

822
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 8: And we know that. We've seen it over the years,

823
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 8: and Skinner it remains to be seen how things will

824
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 8: go with him. But sometimes when you just have a

825
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 8: guy with a clean slate, it makes a difference. And

826
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 8: this guy, I'm telling you, I've not been around many

827
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 8: goaltenders who had a personality like this. Everybody in that

828
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 8: locker room loves him already. They play hard for that guy,

829
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 8: and I think they really respond to his personality and

830
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 8: his style, and like I said, there's just a calmness

831
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 8: about him and that, and I think this team really

832
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 8: needs that.

833
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I know about ever, Josh, because I think Flower fit

834
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: that mold as well. But I certainly get the idea.

835
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

836
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: How did the Penguins get by without Carlson and La

837
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Tang last night? That was pretty impressive. I'm not sure

838
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: they can do it a bunch of nights in a row.

839
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 8: Though, No, No, I including tonight. It's a different ballgame tonight.

840
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 5: Mark.

841
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 8: They had a blue line last night that should be

842
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 8: playing at the TikTok Diner most nights not in the

843
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 8: National Hockey League got home.

844
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: That's rank.

845
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: But they pulled it off.

846
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 8: You know how it is sometimes when a star player,

847
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 8: or in this case, a couple of star players are

848
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 8: out of the lineup, you can keep it together for

849
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 8: a couple of weeks and everybody kind of pulls together

850
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 8: and plays over their heads. I think that's part of it.

851
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 8: I don't think they could do a long term without them,

852
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 8: especially with the way Latang has been playing since Brett

853
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 8: Kulex been his defense partner. But it was a credit

854
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: to all those guys last night and sometimes during games

855
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 8: mark all this kind of focus on one individual player.

856
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 8: Parker Watherspoon was unbelievable last night. This guy is so

857
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 8: much better than I ever could have imagined. He played

858
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 8: a phenomenal game.

859
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: I got to saying Ivan he did too.

860
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: We're talking to Josh Joy Penguins at Edmonton tonight. Here

861
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: all the action right here on the X. Now about

862
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: this matchup with the Oiler. They've won nine of their

863
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: last ten against Penguins, very often slaughtered them. McDavid kills

864
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: the Penguins. This is the penguins second game in two nights.

865
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: The Oilers did not play yesterday. I'm not giving up

866
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: the ghost, Josh. But it's kind of ominous, ain't it.

867
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's certainly as a built in loss, if ever

868
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 8: there has been one. Although the Penguins are kind of

869
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 8: playing with house money tonight, Mark, They're two to zero

870
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 8: on the trip and they wrap up in Vancouver on Sunday,

871
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 8: where they should win. So this is kind of the

872
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 8: bonus game. And I've been on an airplane for a

873
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 8: couple of hours, so I actually haven't heard. I know

874
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 8: there's a chance Leon dry Title might still be out

875
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 8: this evening. He's been dealing with a family matter in Germany.

876
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 8: So if that's the case, that certainly helps the Penguins

877
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 8: cause a little bit. But as we all know, Connor McDavid,

878
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 8: when he sees Sidney Crosby and the Penguins, he just

879
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 8: lights up and it's just hard to contain him. That's

880
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 8: just the way it is. Especially Defeattager Carlson can't play

881
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 8: because they might not be great defensive players, but they

882
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 8: can skate with him, and I don't know that anyone

883
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 8: else on the Penguins blue line can.

884
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 16: Well.

885
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: I got to say that I give McDavid credit, all

886
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: these years later for still be an extra psych to

887
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: play against sid If only he could apply that to

888
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: Game six, in Game seven in a final.

889
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 8: That is the sad truth about him. But boy, he

890
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 8: is in some kind of a place right now. During

891
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 8: the last six weeks he's playing out of his mind.

892
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, no, no goals in the last six

893
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of cold a little bit. But yeah,

894
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: there was about a three week stretch where he was insane.

895
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

896
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got enough blame for not winning

897
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: the last two finals. But like Peter maguire said on

898
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: this program, it was easier to get rid of Skinner

899
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: than for their stars to look in the mirror.

900
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 8: Well, that's right. And one thing that still bothers me,

901
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 8: and it makes people here in Edmonton mad because I

902
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 8: tweeted it once, but I thought it was astonishing that

903
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 8: mcday David was given the MVP of the playoffs two

904
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 8: years ago. And I understand that the total points he

905
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 8: put up, but his team didn't win and he didn't

906
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 8: have a point in the last two games of that

907
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 8: series against Florida.

908
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: That will always bother me.

909
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: I will never understand that one did news play Skinner

910
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: last night and Sheilloffs is going to go tonight to

911
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: make it so Skinner didn't play against his old team

912
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: and make the game more vanilla, less emotional.

913
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 2: If so, I think that's a good move.

914
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 8: I just think that he has made up his mind

915
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 8: that Skinner's his number one goalie, and as a result,

916
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 8: he decided he wanted to play him in three of

917
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 8: the four games on this trip. And I also don't

918
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 8: think Skinner had some incredible desire to play against his

919
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 8: old team. You know, he's from Edmonton. I there are

920
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 8: a lot of goalies who don't like John Gibson doesn't

921
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 8: like playing in Pittsburgh.

922
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: Martin mar playing against the balance.

923
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 8: And I talked with Skinner the other day and I

924
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 8: didn't get the sense he was real enthusiastic about playing

925
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 8: in Edmonton. I don't think it matters that much to him.

926
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 8: And I think from a coaching standpoint, like, gee, let's

927
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 8: play our best guy against the two bad teams that

928
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 8: we have left on this trip and win those games.

929
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 8: And if we win at Edmonton with she LOFs, that's

930
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 8: a great bonus.

931
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: Jarry and goal for Edmonton. I feel like he should

932
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: allow a goal in the first shot, Josh. I think

933
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: he kind of owes us that.

934
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 8: He certainly does. He's actually played fairly well since joining

935
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 8: the Oilers and mark when the playoffs come, it's going

936
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 8: to be fascinating because the Oilers are always you know

937
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 8: under the microscope, and he doesn't really handle being under

938
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 8: the microscope very well historically, So I'm actually totally fascinated

939
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 8: to see how he performs for them.

940
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm curs see how he performs tonight if he sees

941
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: is a challenge, if he's kind of kind of shaken

942
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: by the moment.

943
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: I mean, he liked playing here, but I just think

944
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: he's I think he's.

945
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: Like I'm compare to like a dog, Josh, not very bright,

946
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: not much of a memory. Except the lack of memory

947
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: hasn't really served him very well.

948
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: I just think he's stupid and not very good.

949
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 8: Well, you just describe Triston Jerry better than most. I

950
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 8: think that's probably it. He does have a real competitive

951
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 8: streak in him, though he does, I wouldn't be shocked

952
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 8: if he played well tonight that that this is a man.

953
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 8: The Penguins have played so many games in the last

954
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 8: two weeks, Mark, and now you've got to chase McDavid

955
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 8: around for sixty minutes. It's not a good matchup on paper,

956
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 8: and the schedule makers not helping them at all.

957
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: But here's the one thing that does favor the Penguins

958
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: is that the Oilers ain't necessarily playing great. They've lost

959
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: six of their last eleven and they actually have and

960
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I was shocked by this.

961
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 2: They have less points than the Penguins.

962
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, how about that for a stat And if dry

963
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 8: Title doesn't play tonight, that's obviously an enormous deal. McDavid,

964
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 8: as great as he is, when you can focus your

965
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 8: entire approach to stopping him and not have to worry

966
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 8: about dry Tidle, who is obviously one of the great

967
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 8: players of this generation, that does make a huge difference.

968
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 8: And listen, the Penguins are feeling good about themselves right now, Mark,

969
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 8: and they should be. They are doing things that nobody expected.

970
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 8: They're in second place in the division, and knock on wood,

971
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 8: they're gonna be really healthy in the next few days,

972
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 8: when Latang and Carlson might both be back in the

973
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 8: Vancouver I think. So that's a really big deal.

974
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're nine two and two since the break,

975
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: they're second place in the Metro. They got the second

976
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: few as regulation losses in the Eastern Conference. Imagine if

977
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: they were and I'm not kidding when I say this,

978
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: imagine if they were even averaging the freaking shootout.

979
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 8: Oh I know, And and for all. Every time I

980
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 8: bring this up, people always say, come on, the Penguins,

981
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 8: they might not even make the playoffs. They say, yeah,

982
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 8: they might not, but they're actually a pretty drunk good team,

983
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 8: far better than any of us could have imagined if

984
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 8: they get into the playoffs. Mark like the road that

985
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 8: in the playoffs might be the Islanders in Carolina in

986
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 8: the first two rounds. But they're in the worst division

987
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 8: in hockey. Why not take advantage of it that they're

988
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 8: in a really, really good spot right now.

989
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: Two things that we can we can we can tack

990
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: onto this conversation. Josh, did you see how the Flyers

991
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: lost last night?

992
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 8: I sure did. I thought of you immediately break away.

993
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: The Flyers had a one goalid that you breakaway on

994
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: an empty net that half the way guy who sucks

995
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: got caught from behind and stripped you tall. Those back

996
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: don scores wins it in overtime. It was more glorious

997
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: indeed day And they just keep losing.

998
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 8: What is it?

999
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: They've lost seven out of eight.

1000
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 8: They stink And by the way, the Capitals aren't much better.

1001
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 8: It's it's unbelievable how these teams are struggling.

1002
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: Capitals have run out of that ov chasing Gretzky energy.

1003
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, and well, I think Obie's run out of energy too.

1004
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 8: Look at his numbers in the last twenty games. I

1005
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 8: really think he might be out of gas. I'm telling you,

1006
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 8: this is quite an opportunity for the Penguins right now.

1007
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 8: It's not their problem or their fault that their division stinks.

1008
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 5: Awesome, They've really got it.

1009
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 2: Do you see Brett Hart at the game?

1010
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: And isn't it great that there's a giant banner of

1011
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Brett Hart like a Stanley Cup banner at the Calgary.

1012
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 8: Saddle dough there is I probably sent you that picture

1013
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 8: last night. I did not see the excellence of I

1014
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 8: did not see the excellence of execution. Unfortunately, I looked

1015
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 8: for him. I've seen him many times beside the Penguins

1016
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 8: locker room after games. Did not sit him around. I

1017
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 8: was going to tell him, you said hello. I was

1018
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 8: disappointed that I didn't have the chance.

1019
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to get a hold of Brett Hart.

1020
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: Like he's one of the guys.

1021
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: He might be the classiest guy I worked with, except

1022
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: for certain comments that we both know. Josh, great, great stuff,

1023
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: And I will talk to you next week, all right,

1024
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: Mark sounds good.