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Speaker 1: course Tech Friday mc Dave Hatter. It is Friday, coming

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Speaker 1: up at six thirty. We're going to talk about this

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Speaker 1: is scary artificial intelligence recommending nuclear strikes in war games simulations.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's comforting. We got a local man using tech

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Speaker 1: in a serial rape case. And finally cybersecurity tips to

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Speaker 1: protect your tax identity and refund. That's handy information. We

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Speaker 1: always get that from Dave Hatter. Brian Ibold, the return

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Speaker 1: of the Help Squad, great charitable organization over on the

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Speaker 1: West Side, helping people deal with very very difficult times,

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Speaker 1: getting them over the temporary hurdles people might face, and

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing. They've done wonderful work, and I

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Speaker 1: Brian Ibold and the Help Squad. Brian will return in

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Speaker 1: studio at seven o five. Apparently he's got some big news.

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Speaker 1: And I really really enjoy helping out these charities locally.

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Speaker 1: So Brian Ibold saw a need on the West Side

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Speaker 1: can help them out. Later this morning, it's seven o five,

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Speaker 1: follow by all Right, Hudson Institute's Bring Him Account and

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Speaker 1: our Energy Policy Expert live from Las Vegas. Is he

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Speaker 1: appearing at the Sphere Joe with Metallica, So who's opening

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Speaker 1: for who? Metallica warms up and bringing mccow and takes

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Speaker 1: the stage. He will be talking about gas prices, and

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Speaker 1: I did just look at gas buddy, the Straighthorn moves

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Speaker 1: is being a real problem. Yeah, war does have consequences.

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Speaker 1: There are ripple effects. So we can cheer maybe the

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Speaker 1: progress we're making with the Iranians and lots to report

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Speaker 1: on that. But how about three dollars and forty nine

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Speaker 1: cents for gasoline? I'm looking at a lot of stations

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Speaker 1: And uh, of course it varies from place to place.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Ohigoho utilities owning their own nuke plans,

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Speaker 1: and I know Rigam's behind that. I am as well.

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Speaker 1: Small modular reactors are the key Ohio moving that direction. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you want to build an AI facility, bring your power.

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Speaker 1: And with those artificial intelligence companies, they have billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars they can afford to do that. Do you just

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Speaker 1: need to streamline the regulatory process? Should it cost three

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Speaker 1: billion dollars and take three or ten years to build

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Speaker 1: a nuke plant? I don't think so. And also with

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Speaker 1: Brigham account yes, why the straighter for our moves is

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Speaker 1: a crisis, which he's done. He does the podcast Charged Conversations.

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Speaker 1: One more that I strongly encourage you to follow or

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Speaker 1: listen to, like Todd Zen's or Citizen Watchdog yesterday. That

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Speaker 1: is scary stuff. I mean, the level what you want

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Speaker 1: to call it corruption in city government Downtown Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it's risen to the level of corruption,

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Speaker 1: but what Todd Zenser reveals about spending and priorities with

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Speaker 1: the Downtown Cincinnati current makeup is very troubling, and it

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Speaker 1: should be troubling regardless of political strife. Your neighborhood's infrastructure

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Speaker 1: of road repairs. That's just one thing. And yet they

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Speaker 1: continue to throw money in non governmental organizations. And he

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Speaker 1: asked a critical question, why don't we have a disclosure?

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't all council members and elected officials like the mayor

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Speaker 1: in the law called the appearance of impropriety. Lawyers are

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Speaker 1: from council. Let's bring McCallan. We'll have him from seven

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, twenty five and five with Jack Windsor, editor

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Speaker 1: Why we should support Marcel Sturbage for the primary. I

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Speaker 1: to Marcel Sturbage, I mean several times. He is an

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Speaker 1: impressive guy. So you know, do your own research, do

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Speaker 1: be swayed by money flowing into politics and meme focused ads.

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Speaker 1: Do your own research. And make the best determination you

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Speaker 1: Trump are discussing energy rates regarding building new data centers,

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Speaker 1: that topic with Jack as well. And finally, are whistleblowers

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Speaker 1: being punished for exposing waste and fraud? That's a good one,

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor at a thirty you anytime five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty,

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Speaker 1: It's going to continue because the bipartisan resolution that presented

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Speaker 1: by Thomas Massey and Rocanna failed to pass. You had

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Speaker 1: force tailored to allow certain activities to continue, but perhaps

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Speaker 1: specifically precluding boots on the ground. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: you say, Joe, isn't Greg Landsman Jewish?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of what I said to my wife.

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Speaker 1: their insanely amazing intelligence operation. But here we find ourselves.

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Speaker 1: So the war will continue. The question is whether we

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Speaker 1: for their part, claimed that no, the straight of hormusi

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Speaker 1: US forces have intensified strikes against the Iranian vessels. Of course,

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Speaker 1: saying we only have just begun to fight and fight decisively.

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Speaker 1: Our capabilities are overwhelming and gathering still, as are those

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Speaker 1: a statement addressing a lot of concerns by people in

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Speaker 1: the defensive missions are munitions, you know, the ones that

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Speaker 1: The manufacturing facilities of the rockets, the drones, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully we will continue to erode the Iranians ability

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Speaker 1: to even launch a drone That certainly would go a

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Speaker 1: which is a challenge right now. The mines, the potential

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Speaker 1: for the Iranians to use these drone boats, the limited

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Speaker 1: number of ships we have in the region, they can

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Speaker 1: only do so much. So we'll see. I saw this

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Speaker 1: this one article. European allies might join the United States

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Speaker 1: in defending the Straight of Horn moves. Get a load

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Speaker 1: of this, but their navies are already thread bear. Britain's

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Speaker 1: once dominant Royal Navy has shrunk to its smallest size

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Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, So let me get this straight. These

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Speaker 1: It makes that's where the criminal justice system kicks in.

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Speaker 1: How many people violate the laws? This has been going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you make it sound so simple because it

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Speaker 1: Weekend time, appreciate it. I think the missing element in

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Speaker 1: I'm going to a fundraiser for the Cincinnati Classical Academy tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I love that since Classical Academy, and I hope that

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Speaker 1: that kind of a school's philosophy, the education system, the

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Speaker 1: idea of classical education and no woke and no DEI

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Speaker 1: focusing on real things, real skills that young people need

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Speaker 1: to advance in this world. God bless them, and the

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Speaker 1: architect of a great system of education that is going

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Speaker 1: to grow by leaps and bounds. There's a really great

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Speaker 1: article about proving to the rest of the world that

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Speaker 1: there was no argument left against school choice. Check out

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Speaker 1: that what happened in Texas. I'll get to that maybe

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Speaker 1: later in the program, but it is certainly a growing

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Speaker 1: and very welcome thing and a welcome change and hopefully

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Speaker 1: turning around the lives from some young people giving them

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Speaker 1: the skills they need to survive. Over the stack is stupid.

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Speaker 1: Let's get naked people at Thirty nine year old woman

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Speaker 1: arrested taking it to custody. This is in Nashville. Police

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Speaker 1: say she bit a police officer after running toward people

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Speaker 1: at Centennial Park completely naked. As this tradition, please said.

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Speaker 1: An officer spotted Ashley Masterson running around the area naked

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Speaker 1: holding a sign attached to a piece of wood. She

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Speaker 1: initially fled.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: See that was my pause, Joe, just waiting for it.

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Speaker 1: The officer attempted to detain her. She fled from the officer.

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Speaker 1: He was able to detain the woman ultimately put her

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Speaker 1: in a car. Reportedly began kicking and screaming and then

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Speaker 1: bit the officer on his right arm. He had visible

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Speaker 1: and bloody bite mark. There was so chomped downy mess.

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Speaker 1: In charge with felony aggravated assault on a first responder

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Speaker 1: for misdemeanors including public indecency, resisting arrest, evading arrest, disorderly conduct,

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Speaker 1: and of course public intoxication. Aamen, don't do that. Here's

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Speaker 1: a weird one. We go to Pennsylvania, Indiana County, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: where the Pennsylvania State Police report that a climber woman

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Speaker 1: has been charged with aggravated cruelty to animals after spreading

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Speaker 1: new photographs of an individual to prevent them from cooperating

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Speaker 1: with the investigation. Huh No, that doesn't make any sense

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Speaker 1: to me either. Investigations started when an injured and abandoned

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Speaker 1: dog was found on the side of the road. Troopers

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Speaker 1: say that they were able to determine that Paulina Williams,

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Speaker 1: who's thirty one, abandoned her dog along the roadway. Mixbury

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Speaker 1: dog found following day transport of the veterinarian for treatment,

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Speaker 1: where it was discovered the dog had two pelvis fractured

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Speaker 1: and numerous chicken bones in his stomach. Troopers learned that

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Speaker 1: Williams allegedly had contacted an individual and asked them to

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Speaker 1: kill or abandon the dog. According to the police release,

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Speaker 1: Williams spread nude photographs of the individual in an effort

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Speaker 1: to prevent the person from speaking with law enforcement. Do

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Speaker 1: what like hiring a hit man to take care of

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Speaker 1: your dog? William's charged with aggravated cruelty to animals and

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Speaker 1: intimidation of a witness, cruelty to animals and invasion of

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Speaker 1: privacy misdemeanors. The intimidation of a witness is a felony.

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Speaker 1: She was unable to post the one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: bond was taken at the Indiana County jail. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: neck tattoo, that's a beauty, nice nose ring and some

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Speaker 1: pretty sweet piercings along her mouth. To you try your

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Speaker 1: own conclusion, Eeries is the biggest douche of the universe,

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Speaker 1: in all the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you.

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Speaker 1: You've reached the top.

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Speaker 3: It's good going, dude.

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Speaker 1: Your dreams have come true. What an amazing idea Joe

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Speaker 1: Strekker came up with. Handing the dog over to a shelter.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you no kill shelter for adoption seems like a

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Speaker 1: better alternative. Joe, I'm with you all day along on

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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Sheriff's deputies rushed to Santa Clarita, about forty

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Speaker 1: miles north of LA after receiving a report of a

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Speaker 1: man suffering from a mental health crisis. The tradition, the

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Speaker 1: armed individual allegedly fired shot to hit a car. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: no one was shot. Local elementary school had to be

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Speaker 1: placed on lockdown after shooting the car. Allegedly, Sheriff's deputies

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Speaker 1: claimed the suspect barricaded himself in a house. Thirty minutes later,

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Speaker 1: the suspect was seen walking around the neighborhood in a

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Speaker 1: hat and a T shirt. But of course this is

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Speaker 1: Friday in the morning show Stack is stupid. He had

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Speaker 1: no pants on strender authorities without incident, and of course

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Speaker 1: there's video of the moment. He was caught on camera

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Speaker 1: walking across the street in a residential area too swat

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Speaker 1: with his hands high in the air with the shotgun

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Speaker 1: on the ground behind him. Five forty five fifty five

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Speaker 1: care see the talk station. Oh you know there's more

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Speaker 1: of that coming up here A see deep talk station

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Speaker 1: five fifty at fifty five care CEV talk station right time,

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Speaker 1: especially everyone, a very happy Friday and invitation stick around

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Speaker 1: all morning of course Tech Friday by Dave Hattery.

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Speaker 2: Hatter.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from the help squads Brian Ibel at

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Speaker 1: seven oh five with some apparently big news our energy

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Speaker 1: expert Brigham Account from Hudson Institute's gonna join us at

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Speaker 1: seven thirty for an hour by Gas Prices Utilities owning

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Speaker 1: their own nuke plants and the straight of horror moves

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Speaker 1: obviously a dominant topic of conversation that one Jack Windsor

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Speaker 1: from the Ile Press network about supporting Marcel Sturbage. It

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Speaker 1: is an option the Senators and Trump discussing the energy

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Speaker 1: rates on the data centers as well. Finally, also whistleblowers

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Speaker 1: being punished for exposing waste and fraud. That with Jack

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Speaker 1: Windsor coming up at eight thirty back over to the

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Speaker 1: stack of stupid. Oh look naked person who naked man

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Speaker 1: exposed himself the two women happened Tuesday afternoon. But why

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Speaker 1: are you doing that? Maybe we'll find out sometimes you don't.

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Speaker 1: Women who saw the man described her experience on social

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Speaker 1: media today. My friend and I were sexually harassed by

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Speaker 1: a naked man hiding in the woods who was filming

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Speaker 1: himself performing explicit acts while watching and recording us. What

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Speaker 1: used to get deliberate penalties? He formally played hockey joe.

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Speaker 1: This incredibly disturbing and unacceptable, especially in a park where

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Speaker 1: many college students, high school students, families and young children

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Speaker 1: regularly run, walk and play right, She said. The incident

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Speaker 1: was reported to the RUST and police, describing the suspect

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Speaker 1: as young white adult males of medium build suspects plural.

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Speaker 1: They were both in there doing that. Lieutenant Kayla Lord

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Speaker 1: Lloyd's spokesman for the police officers, said the responded to

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Speaker 1: Cook Park immediately started searching for the suspect, but couldn't

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Speaker 1: find him. In the social media post, one also wrote,

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Speaker 1: we're sharing this to warn others so no one else

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Speaker 1: has to experience something like this. Stalelert void walking alone.

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Speaker 1: Pay close attention to your surroundings. That's solid information. Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: Lloyd noted that the police have not received any similar reports,

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Speaker 1: said the incident is still under investigation, So one of

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Speaker 1: those where we don't find out why they're doing that.

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Speaker 1: Let's see here Wisconsin's part of Wisconsin. A nurse sentenced

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Speaker 1: to prison for engaging in sexual intercourse with a patient.

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Speaker 1: Monroe County District Attorney's office press release said Melissa Knutson

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Speaker 1: found guilty of misconduct in public office and obstructing an officer,

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Speaker 1: sends to eighteen month in prison two years of probation.

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Speaker 1: Charges them from her time as a nurse at the

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Speaker 1: in Monroe County, repeatedly engaging in sexual intercourse with the

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Speaker 1: patient who was a drug court participant facts report of

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Department of Safety and Professional Services. She falsely

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Speaker 1: accused the patient of sexual assault. She acknowledged that she

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Speaker 1: was not sexually assaulted later, Butts instead fabricated the allegation

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Speaker 1: to avoid the consequences. District Attorney Kevin Caringer had this

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Speaker 1: to say, the harm caused by her was a deep

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Speaker 1: and it was deep and significant. Not only did she

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Speaker 1: violate this sacred trust between a patient and a nurse,

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Speaker 1: but she compounded by falsely accusing the patient of sexual assault.

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Speaker 1: The situation is particularly egregious given the patient in this

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Speaker 1: situation was a participant in drug court. Judge Current extremely

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Speaker 1: concerned about the significant level of harm caused by missus Knutsen,

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Speaker 1: and his sentence reflected that significant level of harm. Weird. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and yet another one. Every week Joe's tossing and the

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Speaker 1: teachers who are having sex with students. Every week it's

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Speaker 1: been a female teacher having sex with students. It never

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Speaker 1: never ceases to amaze me. Married high school jim teacher

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Speaker 1: in Rhode Island has been arrested in charge with sexually

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Speaker 1: assaulting a student whom she admitted to sexting and at

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Speaker 1: least kissing. Alicia Crins started sending flirty messages to the

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Speaker 1: male victim when he was a sophomore at Pontagan That's

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Speaker 1: at high school in Gloucester, Rhode Island. Thirty nine year

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Speaker 1: old Crins reportedly found his phone number online, which he

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Speaker 1: was her student. Those exchanges escalated from flirty messages to

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Speaker 1: her sending him naked pictures and videos. Bad idea anybody,

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Speaker 1: because idiots and thank god they're idiots. Look we got

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Speaker 1: the proof. Additionally, the teen said that Crins kissed him twice,

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Speaker 1: including one incident where she straddled him sexually in the

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Speaker 1: back of the car. She admitted the police officers that

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Speaker 1: she did send inappropriate photos, kissed the boy, and discussed

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Speaker 1: plans to have sex, but insisted that the relationship was

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Speaker 1: never physical. Whatever, thank you. Liam started flirting when the boy.

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Speaker 1: She told him he looked good, asked him if she

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Speaker 1: could wear his sweatshirt Affidavid did if. She teasingly asked

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Speaker 1: him what he would buy her for her birthday, then

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Speaker 1: proceeded to ask him for a kiss, gave him her address.

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Speaker 1: He did show up at her home and then she

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Speaker 1: jumped into his car and they parked on a side streak.

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Speaker 1: She allegedly told him, I can't believe I'm doing I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do this. You can't tell anybody. That's when

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Speaker 1: they started kissing, lasted about fifteen minutes. She then bombarded

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Speaker 1: the boy with flattering texts in the following days, including

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Speaker 1: message about how good a kiss her he was and

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Speaker 1: how she couldn't stop thinking about his lips phrasing. She

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Speaker 1: later invited him over, and that's when the apparently straddling

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Speaker 1: againstid in the backseat of the car occurred. Affidavid stated

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Speaker 1: that they engaged in sexual contact. They kissed. When speaking

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Speaker 1: of police, the teenager showed authorities a handful of racy

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Speaker 1: photos and videos that showed her in lingerie. He added

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Speaker 1: that she sent the photos to him when he was

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Speaker 1: only seventeen years old. He also admitted to authorities she

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Speaker 1: sent the boy nude photos and videos of herself when

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Speaker 1: he turned eighteen. Happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: They said they discussed having sex, though they never actually

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Speaker 1: slept together. Congratulations whatever, Thank you Liam five fifty six

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRC the talk station. Who are your children

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Speaker 1: spending time with when you are not watching them? Don't

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Speaker 1: go away? Plenty to talk about coming up after the

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Speaker 1: six o'clock news, But then we're gonna get Tech Friday

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Speaker 1: with Dave hat He appointment listening coming up at the

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Speaker 1: talk station. He tipto six at fifty five KR see

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Speaker 1: fify five Case Mory Show. And there he is. Got

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Speaker 1: a great run down thanks to that man. Tech Friday

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Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter every Friday coming up Botto of the

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Speaker 1: hour six thirty. We got artificial intelligence suggesting nuclear strikes

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Speaker 1: are a great option of wargames simulations. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: like that local man using tech in a serial rape case.

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Speaker 1: And number three topics cybersecurity, tips to protect your tax

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Speaker 1: identity and refund Brian Ibold the man behind the Help Squad,

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Speaker 1: a wonderful charitable organization helping folks on the West Side

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Speaker 1: in dire situations. Apparently Brian Ibold has some big news

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Speaker 1: to report. He'll be in studio at seven oh five

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Speaker 1: again him for a couple of segments talk about the

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Speaker 1: great work they're doing and learn about that big news together.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Brian Ibold and the team that helps squad doing

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Speaker 1: what they are doing. Brigham Accown and our energy policy

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Speaker 1: expert from the Hudson Institute. He is in Vegas, but

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Speaker 1: he's opportunity. He's provided us with an opportunity to learn

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Speaker 1: about the situation with gas prices. YEP, saw a gas

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Speaker 1: up to about three dollars and fifty cents in a

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Speaker 1: lot of stations in my area. That's the direction that's

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Speaker 1: going because of the situation with the straight up horn moves,

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Speaker 1: which we'll talk about with Brigham account and also the

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Speaker 1: idea of Ohio utilities owning nuke plants owning as opposed

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Speaker 1: to I guess the problem with it is they want

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Speaker 1: to have the cost of the plants taken care of

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Speaker 1: by the ratepayer up front. The old days, utilities would

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Speaker 1: build their own plants and then recoup the money later,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the way it should be. So

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Speaker 1: just getting nuke plants out in the world, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge advocate for that. The ultimate problem solved.

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Speaker 1: Abundant electricity, very small footprint. You don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about nuclear waste anymore with modern reactors. On and on

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Speaker 1: and on and on, and I'll put in a plug

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Speaker 1: for cribbage, Mike. The American military has been using small

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Speaker 1: reactors in ships since the nineteen fifties with no incident. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: how about we get to have some of that Jack

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Speaker 1: windsor from the high press network after Brigging departs, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from him. It's at eight thirty why we

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Speaker 1: should support Marcel Sturbiche in the primary Ohio senators and

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Speaker 1: Trump discussing energy rates regarding building new data centers. And finally,

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Speaker 1: are whistle blowers being punished for exposing waste and fraud?

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Speaker 1: I hope not five one, three, seven, four nine fifty,

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Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred eight to two three talk time

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Speaker 1: five fifty on AT and T phones. Yes, so Trump

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Speaker 1: can continue, and I guess the question swirling around, So

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to stop Trump by as certain. The warpowers

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Speaker 1: actually got shot down as was expected, dude, just like

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Speaker 1: I got shot down in the Senate, which means there

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Speaker 1: is no curbing of the military activity going on in

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Speaker 1: Iran right now. But the War Powers Resolution in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three still exists, which means I think the clock

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Speaker 1: is still running for the sixty day window, maybe backed

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Speaker 1: up by a thirty day extension, and I'm certain that

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Speaker 1: that thirty day extension will be exercised. If we run

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Speaker 1: up against the clock on sixty days, Will the operation

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Speaker 1: be over within sixty days? We can only pray that

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Speaker 1: it will be. I'm a little suspicious that that won't happen.

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Speaker 1: Call me slightly pessimistic on that. But since nothing happened

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Speaker 1: by way of curbing the military exercise, that's where I

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Speaker 1: think we find ourselves with the ticking clock. So Warren

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Speaker 1: Davidson did what he said, and oddly enough Greg Landsman

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Speaker 1: also voted against reigning in Donald Trump's war powers. So

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Speaker 1: you had Massey and Davidson and four Democrats. I thought

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Speaker 1: David Taylor was going to vote against this. Joe didn't

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Speaker 1: he say that on the Morning Show a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. I do believe. So we'll have to get

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Speaker 1: David and I just just get to ask him the

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Speaker 1: question next time he's on. So you know, the big

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Speaker 1: problem is unringing the bell. And you know Ryan McKenzie,

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Speaker 1: he's representative from Pennsylvanian. He pointed out the obvious, He's

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Speaker 1: I'll be voting no against the War Powers Act because

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Speaker 1: once the president has taken that action, that first action,

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Speaker 1: if we were to pull back, it would actually leave

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Speaker 1: us more vulnerable and less safe by leaving all of

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Speaker 1: the capabilities in place. But having started a conflict like this, well,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. But that's part of the challenge. We

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Speaker 1: got to the this place with presidents waging war since

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Speaker 1: World War II without a declaration of war, and I

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Speaker 1: dcly keep using Vietnam as the greatest illustration of it.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy inherited the so called advisors, you know, the CIA

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Speaker 1: folks providing consultation work in Vietnam, and it just gradually

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Speaker 1: escalated year after year after year. Do we ended up

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Speaker 1: losing fifty fives or so thousand men fighting in Vietnam?

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Speaker 1: At what point was there and there wasn't authorizations for

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Speaker 1: you some military force, although you did have a Congress

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Speaker 1: with the power of the person continuing to fund the

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Speaker 1: military operation. There years of approval of the unilateral action

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Speaker 1: by presidents. You know, you had Barack Obama with Libyan Milmarkadaffi.

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Speaker 1: We could go on and on and on this again.

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Speaker 1: I go back to the legal theories of waiver and

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Speaker 1: estoppel that everybody prior to me says, Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: been doing it. This is just how we do things,

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Speaker 1: and of course, with yesterday's vote, we're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to go down that road.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to chime in on that, pivoting over to

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Speaker 1: something completely unrelated. But I just read with just the

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Speaker 1: big grin on my face this op ed piece by

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Speaker 1: Tommy Schultz, who happens to be the CEO of American

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Speaker 1: Federation for Children, which is an advocacy organization for school choice.

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Speaker 1: And guess what wins? And I was thinking of eighty

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Speaker 1: twenty issues and how the Democrats, in spite of the

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Speaker 1: fact they're growing about they're going to dominate in November

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Speaker 1: and it's still a possibility, but they're on the wrong

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Speaker 1: side of all these eighty twenty issues. Deportation of criminal

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, everybody wants that they don't, border security, everybody

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Speaker 1: wants that. The Democrats are against it. LGBTQ agendas like

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Speaker 1: men playing against women in sports, everybody is overwhelmingly against that.

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Speaker 1: Who favors it. The Dems use of gender pronouns transitioning

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Speaker 1: men into women or women into men by way of

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Speaker 1: hormone or surgical intervention. You know, people under the age

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Speaker 1: of eighteen. Who's in favor of that? Democrats, it's an

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Speaker 1: eighty twenty issue. Welcome to another eighty twenty issues, school choice.

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Speaker 1: They're on the wrong side of this one too. And

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Speaker 1: as Texas proved, and as Tommy Schultz pointed out, Texas

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Speaker 1: just demolished the last argument against school choice. For years,

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Speaker 1: anti choice lawmakers insisted that rural families don't want education options.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's election prove them wrong. In primary races across Texas,

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Speaker 1: candidates who champion Governor Greg Abbott's Texas Education Freedom Account

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Speaker 1: program one go to deeply rural Texas House District eighty six.

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Speaker 1: Holly Jeffries routed an opponent who proclaimed, quote, I will

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Speaker 1: never flip on vouchers. Across Texas, candidates who worked hard

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Speaker 1: against school choice faced consequences in twenty twenty seven. Get

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Speaker 1: a load of this. There won't be an anti school

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Speaker 1: choice Republican in the Texas legislature. Of the twenty one

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Speaker 1: House Republicans voted against school choice in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: all have been defeated by a pro school choice challenger.

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Speaker 1: Retired and replaced by pro choice legislator or reverse to

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Speaker 1: ultimately support school choice lips. I'm back in the corner.

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Speaker 1: I guess I better change my tune or I'm going

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Speaker 1: to lose like everybody else, they said. Two years ago,

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Speaker 1: Governor Abbott went on to the electrical electoral offensive against

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Speaker 1: the Republican incumbents who voted to kill his twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three school choice bill. He enacted. The a FC Victory Fund,

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Speaker 1: deployed significant resources statewide to making sure voters knew where

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Speaker 1: the representatives stood, and achieved the largest shift towards school

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Speaker 1: choice in Texas in political history. Representative Glenn Rodgers, for instance,

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Speaker 1: had long stood with teachers union. He lost his seat

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Speaker 1: by twenty six points in the twenty twenty four primary.

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Speaker 1: The trend then went beyond Texas. During the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four primary season, AFC's political affiliates spent nearly ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars in fifteen states, defeating sixty seven percent of incumbents

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Speaker 1: who stood against parents on this critical issue. These are

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Speaker 1: great figures, folks. Texas, where the teachers' unions assume their

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Speaker 1: monopoly would last forever, is rolling out a wildly popular

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Speaker 1: school choice program. With one hundred and fifty thousand student

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Speaker 1: applications already in the door. In two more weeks, Love

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Speaker 1: for the open enrollment program will have the largest ever

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Speaker 1: day one launch for school choice programs in history. The

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Speaker 1: primaries confirmed that voters are fully behind that move. The

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Speaker 1: rural myth is dead lesson for every state house in America.

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Speaker 1: Is now impossible to ignore school choice. Wins, oppose it,

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Speaker 1: and voters will show you the door. A's your eighty

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Speaker 1: twenty issue right there. And I am proud to be

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Speaker 1: attending the fundraiser for the Cincinnati Classical Academy tomorrow evening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you John and Kathy Newsom for the invitation. Is

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Speaker 1: an outstanding option. It is a brilliant, outstanding option. There

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Speaker 1: should be more options like that. There should be more

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Speaker 1: people embracing the concept of school choice. Are your schools

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Speaker 1: failing you? Based upon the testing scores nationwide? I would

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Speaker 1: think a lot of folks can nod in agreement. Yeah

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Speaker 1: they are. I see Jamie's on the line. Hang on, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: I think I know what Jamie has to chime in about.

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Speaker 1: Don't go away. I want to mention Jimy care Fireplace

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Speaker 1: and stove. They do it all when it comes to

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Speaker 1: care and see the talk station six at fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRCD talk station Ran Thomas right here, wish nobody very

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Speaker 1: happy Friday. David. David concurs and I concur with folks. Colin.

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Speaker 1: I got a few callers online. Let's start with Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Kind of expect that, am I hear from you, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Brian, good morning. I so appreciate your shedding of

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Speaker 7: the light globally of where school.

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Speaker 2: Choice is headed.

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Speaker 7: It's so amazing. I'm so appreciative of your voice. I

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Speaker 7: wanted to just kind of say bigger picture thought about

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Speaker 7: school choice is that we need better schools generally for kids,

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Speaker 7: whether it's public or private. You know, I hear from

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Speaker 7: I hear from a distressed mama at least once a week,

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Speaker 7: and they are in a school situation where their child

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Speaker 7: is not being served. My call yesterday was a family

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Speaker 7: it's at another private school in our area, and she

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Speaker 7: said they've been dealing with a student that is wreaking

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Speaker 7: havoc and one of her kiddo's classrooms and the school

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Speaker 7: just straight is not dealing with it. And so we

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Speaker 7: you know, we've we've talked how you know, behavior learning gaps.

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Speaker 7: There's all sorts of things happening. And the bigger problem

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Speaker 7: that I see is that the facilities are not understanding

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Speaker 7: child development and what kids actually need to be learning

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Speaker 7: and to be peaceful and to be responsible and to

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Speaker 7: be engaged in their work. It's like any times, the

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Speaker 7: kids are being stuck in these machines and expected to

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Speaker 7: just be like robots and do what they're told, and

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Speaker 7: it's not working. It's just not working. We've got to

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Speaker 7: be developing each individual human really, because the kids have

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Speaker 7: so much potential. But boy, some kiddos can get off

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Speaker 7: track and it is not a pretty situation.

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Speaker 1: I agree. That's why the school choice option allows parents

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Speaker 1: to evaluate where their child is and seek out alternatives.

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Speaker 1: One size does not fit all when it comes to

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Speaker 1: educating any given young person. I realize that, and that's

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Speaker 1: why one of the reasons why I'm an advocate for

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Speaker 1: school choice Jamie, and Jamie of course runs a Montesssori school,

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Speaker 1: which is a choice. Glad we have it, Jamie, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you're out there helping spread the word on choice

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Speaker 1: as well. Let's see what doctor Jay's got this morning,

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Speaker 1: Doctor j always a wonderful thing seeing it listener lunch,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program, sir.

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Speaker 8: Thank you Brian, it was wonderful seeing you. And boy,

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Speaker 8: wasn't that carrot cake from Bob amazing?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for standing and I'm glad I finally found mine.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know he had slight a hand and slipped

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Speaker 8: it in your coat.

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Speaker 1: Kneel and I long story, but yes, retired colonel retired

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Speaker 1: Colonel Bob guitar makes wonderful carrot cake, So yes, I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed that. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 8: Jaycoops? Well, I'd mentioned as the listener launch and apparently

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Speaker 8: I haven't heard anyone bring this up. So Monday night

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Speaker 8: was Poorham. The Jewish festival read it to us in

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Speaker 8: the Book of Maguilla, which is not part of the Torah.

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Speaker 8: So when you hear somebody talk about the whole mcgilla,

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Speaker 8: that's where the phrase comes from. It was a whole

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Speaker 8: book of a story about Queen Esther, king of hash Veris.

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Speaker 8: And why is it important now? Well, this all happened

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Speaker 8: in Persia, the land of Iran, so thousands of years ago.

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Speaker 8: We celebrate every year because on Poram on Monday, which

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Speaker 8: is the day after our invasion of Iran, or two

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Speaker 8: days after that, is the celebration of the depth of Hayman,

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Speaker 8: this evil man who was running the Kingdom of Persia

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Speaker 8: under the nose of the king, and he wanted to

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Speaker 8: kill all the Jews, and he had a plan to

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Speaker 8: kill all the Jews is the thirteenth of a dollar.

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Speaker 8: I think he was going to kill them. It was

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Speaker 8: the Hebrew months, and this brave woman came and spoke

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Speaker 8: up to the king. She was Jewish. She revealed she

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Speaker 8: was a Jew, which was not a good thing those days,

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Speaker 8: which seems to be our.

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Speaker 1: Current situation to be a jew ongoing problem for the

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Speaker 1: Jewish people.

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Speaker 8: Particularly in Persia or Iran. So anyway, so she suffered

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Speaker 8: the King's wrath, did reveal the plot. He decided, okay,

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Speaker 8: I like her, I don't want these people to be killed.

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Speaker 8: So instead he killed Hayman in a pretty gruesome fashion.

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Speaker 8: So we celebrate his death and the survival of the

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Speaker 8: Jews every year on Pourum. And so here we are

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Speaker 8: in Iran, again celebrating the death of an evil man

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Speaker 8: who wanted to kill all the Jews.

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Speaker 1: So and again revealing the level of level of turmoil

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Speaker 1: that's gone into that region for literally thousands of years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's not been a peaceful area for a

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Speaker 8: very long time.

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Speaker 1: Right, Never, if there was ever a gross understatement, doctor

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Speaker 1: j you just made one appreciate that. I appreciate the

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Speaker 1: history lesson though, because you mentioned that at lunch, and

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Speaker 1: I had never heard that story before. So we're all

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Speaker 1: a little bit more enlightened this morning. I appreciate your enlightenment,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate your friendship. Are the best computer company

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Speaker 1: to work with. If youve got a business, you've got computers,

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Speaker 1: they'll set them up, they'll keep you out of trouble,

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Speaker 1: they'll engage in best practices, and you can rely on

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter in his career. They do wonderful work. Dave

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Speaker 1: had to welcome back to the fifty five KRCY morning,

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate you being on the program every week,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's my pleasure, Brian.

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Speaker 1: I have read so many scary stories about AI. We know,

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Speaker 1: we got these lawsuits going on about artificial intelligence telling

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Speaker 1: people to ultimately kill themselves and all the psychological trauma

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Speaker 1: that that's apparently unfolding as we discover the downside and

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Speaker 1: the risks of communicating with basically a computer and thinking

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Speaker 1: it's real. But that's bad enough recommending someone kill themselves,

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Speaker 1: but how about nuclear war?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a little disturbing and a little depressing. So a

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Speaker 5: New Scientist magazine had this article, AIS Can't stop recommending

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Speaker 5: nuclear strikes and wargame simulations and then the subhead leading

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Speaker 5: AIS from Open Ai, Anthropic and Google opted to use

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Speaker 5: nuclear weapons in simulated wargames ninety five percent of the cases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty interesting.

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Speaker 5: So apparently King's College had these three leading language models

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Speaker 5: chat GPT five point two, which is pretty sure the

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Speaker 5: latest version Claude Sonnet four and Gemini three flash. So

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Speaker 5: they simulated wargames and you know, if you read through

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Speaker 5: the article, they talk about intense national standoffs, border disputes,

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Speaker 5: competition for scarce resources, and existential threats to regime survival.

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Speaker 5: And then I think of places like North Right or

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Speaker 5: even this situation in Iran. Obviously they're facing a somewhat

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Speaker 5: existential threat to the regime at this point. So you know, apparently,

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Speaker 5: again these are scientists, academic researcher types who set all

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Speaker 5: this up and porting the article, they were given an

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Speaker 5: escalation ladder allowing them to choose different actions, you know,

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Speaker 5: during the war, and says they played twenty one games,

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Speaker 5: three hundred and twenty nine turns in total, and produced

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Speaker 5: around seven hundred and eighty thousand words describing the reasoning

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Speaker 5: behind their decisions. But again, according to this Brian, ninety

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Speaker 5: five percent of the time, it eventually escalated to nuclear weapons,

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Speaker 5: which I don't think anyone thinks is a good idea

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Speaker 5: under any circumstances at this point.

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Speaker 1: Right, isn't what the point of nuclear weapons is mutually

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Speaker 1: assured destruction, which takes it out of the equation completely.

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Speaker 1: Does the artificial intelligence program not get the concept of that?

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Speaker 2: You know, I always thought that was the idea of Brian,

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Speaker 2: especially now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, if you go back to the

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Speaker 5: World War two era when nuclear weapons were first developed

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Speaker 5: and first used, you know, they were nowhere near as

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Speaker 5: powerful as they are now. Yeah, obviously any sort of

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Speaker 5: full scale nuclear exchange between like US and Russia or

931
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Speaker 5: China would lead to probably completed bliteration of the human race.

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Speaker 5: At the very least, you'd be back to like Caveman times.

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Speaker 5: Because I think people often if they don't really know

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Speaker 5: much about nuclear weapons, obviously you get the blast, which

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Speaker 5: causes intense damage and obliterates everything within a fairly large area.

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Speaker 5: Then you get the fallout, which goes way further and

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Speaker 5: kills people, you know, over time, for a substantial area

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Speaker 5: around wherever the blast was. But you also have the

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Speaker 5: devastation of the electromagnetic pulse that comes off of these blasts.

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Speaker 1: So it's wipes out literally every electronic device in our

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Speaker 1: entire electric infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly where I was going with it, Brian.

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Speaker 5: So if the blast doesn't get you, and you survive

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Speaker 5: the radiation, you're still going to be in a situation

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Speaker 5: where now you have you know, all of the electronics

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Speaker 5: everywhere fried or everywhere within you know range of any

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Speaker 5: of these weapons detonated, and then you have the potential

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Speaker 5: nuclear winter scenario where it throws all this stuff into

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Speaker 5: the sky and blots out the sun. So you know,

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Speaker 5: it's not just oh I survived the blast, I'm good

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Speaker 5: to go. It's the collapse of civilization that would inevitably

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Speaker 5: occur if you had any kind of large scale exchange

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Speaker 5: of nuclear weapons. So yeah, it's it's disturbing to me

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Speaker 5: that these tools don't seem to understand what the impact

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Speaker 5: on our society would be if you were able to

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Speaker 5: escalate to this sort of exchange. And other than that,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what to say about it, Brian, other

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Speaker 5: than I find it pretty disturbing, and I'm hoping that

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Speaker 5: people are the people working on this stuff or taking

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Speaker 5: this into consideration that hey, maybe we need to you

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Speaker 5: build more logic into these tools, or train it with

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Speaker 5: more data, or whatever we need to do to ensure

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Speaker 5: that that's not the decision they make, especially as we

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Speaker 5: look at a potential future at some future point, I

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Speaker 5: don't know when that is where these things would potentially

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Speaker 5: be making decisions like this.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, maybe you just need to have AI

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Speaker 1: watch and absorb Matthew Broderick's eighty three movie War.

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Speaker 2: Games and that is a classic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well just that. Yeah, and hey, thanks Dave, happy

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Speaker 1: Friday on that subject.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, happy, it's been good knowing you, Brian. Back

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Speaker 2: to the buzz.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, we're going to continue the theme here, not

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Speaker 1: global war, but using tech in a serial rape case.

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Speaker 1: Dave's going to be talk station six forty. If if

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Speaker 1: you have k see the talk station permanent waves intrust

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Speaker 1: it dot com. That's where you find Dave had or

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Speaker 1: you can find Dave Hotter all the notes he uses

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Speaker 1: to with the topics he discusses here in the Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: You can find at linked dot com. Just search Dave

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Speaker 1: out Ter on that you'll find Dave and all the

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Speaker 1: resources and real quick, you're Dave on your last topic

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Speaker 1: about AI recommending nuclear weapons. Thank you Eric who sent

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Speaker 1: me a meme with a picture of Albert Einstein quote,

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Speaker 1: I know not what the weapons World War III will

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Speaker 1: be fought, but World War four will be fought with

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Speaker 1: sticks and stones. I think that stuff quite nicely anyway.

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Speaker 1: Pivoting yes, pivoting over to this case from Kentucky. This

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Speaker 1: is sick.

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Speaker 5: It is sick, and I think this is an interesting

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Speaker 5: way to explain online dangers in general. So, according to

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Speaker 5: the Inquirer, the headline is man accused of using spyware

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Speaker 5: tech to target women.

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Speaker 2: In serial rape case.

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Speaker 5: And I'll come back to this in a minute, because

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Speaker 5: there's some interesting points people should take away from this.

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Speaker 5: But I you know, because he apparently used social media

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Speaker 5: to reach him, offered to fix their computers various different ruses,

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Speaker 5: right to eventually establish an in person can with someone,

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Speaker 5: and then led to the alleged crimes. The point I

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Speaker 5: want to make is, you know this is this is

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Speaker 5: one unfortunate example, but there are so many of these

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Speaker 5: examples out there, Brian, And as we have more and

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Speaker 5: more tech that lets people get connected, whether it's social media,

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Speaker 5: it's video games, it's chat apps or whatever, you see

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Speaker 5: this sort of thing everywhere. So I wanted to hit

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Speaker 5: you with a few headlines just to make the point,

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Speaker 5: and then I'll come back to this specific story. Quote

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Speaker 5: playground for predators unquote, Nebraska AG Mike Hilger's files lawsuit

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Speaker 5: against Roadblocks. For those who don't know, and I bring

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Speaker 5: this up because many of your listeners probably have kids

1013
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Speaker 5: or grandkids who play Roadblocks and other online games. You know,

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Speaker 5: Roadblocks has been in the crosshairs a lot lately. But

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Speaker 5: understand that any kind of online game where you're playing

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Speaker 5: with other people, and especially if it allows any kind

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Speaker 5: of interaction, which they all do as far as I

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Speaker 5: know at this point, you know, predators will go in

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Speaker 5: these games and pretend to be a thirteen year old

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Speaker 5: girl or a fifteen year old boy or whatever. Again,

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Speaker 5: you'll see how this connects in a second. So that's

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Speaker 5: one example. Here's another headline. La sues Roadblocks over quote

1023
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Speaker 5: unsafe online environment unquote for kids, marking yet another Roadblocks lawsuit.

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Speaker 5: Then we have from CBS News. Kentucky Attorney General sues Roadblocks,

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Speaker 5: alleging a quote playground for predators unquote. Here's another story,

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Speaker 5: Roadblocks give predators quote powerful tools to target children unquote,

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Speaker 5: says LA. County, Louisiana sues Roadblocks, alleging the popular gaming

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Speaker 5: site fails to protect children. And New Jersey sues Discord.

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Speaker 5: So Discord is like an online chat app. A lot

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Speaker 5: of video gamers will use Discord to interact with each

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Speaker 5: other outside of the game environment itself. New Jersey sues Discord,

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Speaker 5: alleging deceptive safety practices put children at risk. So, you know,

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Speaker 5: this is a case of an adult, and there's this

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Speaker 5: particular case of this Kentucky guy who's accused of rape.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's no allegations that I saw about children

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Speaker 5: in there. But my point is, if you are in

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Speaker 5: any kind of online environment where you can talk to people,

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Speaker 5: it's easy to create fake profiles, it's easy to pretend

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Speaker 5: to be anyone that you want to pretend to be.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can.

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Speaker 5: Establish a relationship and groom someone, which is apparently what

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Speaker 5: this particular guy was doing. You know, again, I'm just

1043
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Speaker 5: hitching with a couple of high points from the article here.

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Speaker 5: Before women in northern Kentucky accused him of sexual assault,

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Speaker 5: Investigators say Paul Snow Junior often approached them on social media,

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Speaker 5: or it could have been a video game. Obviously, adult

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Speaker 5: women probably aren't playing a lot of video games, but

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Speaker 5: nevertheless some do video game discord or some other sort

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Speaker 5: of chat app, in this case social media, sometimes offering

1050
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Speaker 5: to fix their phones or computers, sometimes offering them jobs,

1051
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Speaker 5: sometimes sending flority messages. Prosecutors say it was a ruse

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Speaker 5: to lose, to lure women to his home, part of

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Speaker 5: a formula that Snow perfected over the years. And then eventually,

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Speaker 5: I guess some of these women spoke out on social

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Speaker 5: media that got an investigation started. You know, the guy's

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Speaker 5: apparently going through the legal system now, but.

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Speaker 2: It says here.

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Speaker 5: Authorities searched his home in April twenty one, twenty three,

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Speaker 5: finding evidence they say that supports reports of sexual assault.

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Speaker 2: Grand jury indicted him in June.

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Speaker 5: So police find evidence of spyware, social engineering show many

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Speaker 5: women told police Snow use social media and is knowledge

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Speaker 5: of technology to blackmail and intimidate them. After the assaults,

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Speaker 5: persuaded women to share their online account information and to

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Speaker 5: use spyware to get images for blackmail. You know, these

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Speaker 5: are the exact sort of tactics that the predators often

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Speaker 5: use on video games or discord against children, against children

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Speaker 5: who are exactly right to be able to respond and

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Speaker 5: deal with this kind of craziness going on. At least

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Speaker 5: an adult may have the capacity to understand that they

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Speaker 5: can go to the authorities or have or that they

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Speaker 5: have resources out there that can deal with this. A

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Speaker 5: young child caught in the crosshairs of this, it would

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Speaker 5: be overwhelmed and I cannot imagine the trauma that that

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Speaker 5: child would face.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with anymore, Brian.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you've got that whole seven, six or four

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Speaker 5: gang thing that's been taking place on these online apps

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Speaker 5: like this. So the bigger point I wanted to make

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Speaker 5: by trying to wrap in some of these other stories is,

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Speaker 5: you know, whether it's adults on social media, kids on discorder,

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Speaker 5: in some video game or something, it's really important to

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Speaker 5: understand people can easily pretend to be something they're not.

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Speaker 2: They'll tell you lies. You know, just because you.

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Speaker 5: See an attractive person on Facebook, Twitter, Discord, Roadblocks, whatever,

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Speaker 5: and they're friendly and nice to you, doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 5: who they claim to be. Doesn't mean they're not trying

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Speaker 5: to eventually exploit you in some way.

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy forty year old, overweight pedophile sitting in

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Speaker 1: his mom's base luring children. Yeah, I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 5: And if nothing else, Brian real Quick, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 5: it's not physical salt, it's romance scams that lead to

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Speaker 5: having your money stolen, you know, or some sort of extortion.

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Speaker 5: So just I think it's important to remind people, and

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Speaker 5: especially if you're an adult with kids or grandkids, you

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Speaker 5: need to warn them about these games and these environments

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Speaker 5: where they may be approached by these folks.

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Speaker 1: Or prevent them from having access to them. There's an option, David.

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to be better coming up next Station six fifty.

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Speaker 1: If you about KRC Detalk station intrust it dot Com

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Speaker 1: sponsors tech Friday with Dave how To. That's Day's company.

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Speaker 1: They do great work and I appreciate you, Dave, and

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Speaker 1: real quick here man, roadblocks must be an awful thing.

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Speaker 1: I've got multiple people sending me information and links on

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Speaker 1: all the different sites which have been tracking the predators

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Speaker 1: on Roadblock. So if I was a parent and I

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Speaker 1: had a young child, I would say hell no period,

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Speaker 1: end of story. Dave gotta get the message on that

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Speaker 1: this is scary stuff.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to I'm gonna agree. You know, if folks

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Speaker 5: want to deeper dive into it, go listen to the

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Speaker 5: most recent Sean Ryan podcast asked Sean Ryan for those

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Speaker 5: who don't know. As an a former Navy seal and

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Speaker 5: CI operator, he has a very popular podcast. The most

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Speaker 5: recent episode I forget the number, but it's entitled Slep,

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Speaker 5: which is the like screen name of a guy who

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Speaker 5: used to be involved with roadblocks about what happened to him.

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Speaker 1: Swabby my am I retired Navy friend Patrick sent me

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Speaker 1: a link to that one as well.

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Speaker 5: It's it's quite disturbing, and if you're a parent or grandparent,

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Speaker 5: I encourage you to listen to that and then you know,

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Speaker 5: decide for yourself. But yes, I can tell you I

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Speaker 5: would not will not allow my kids or grandkids to

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Speaker 5: the extent I could control it, to have access to it.

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Speaker 1: All right, All right, Now, finally some practical information for

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Speaker 1: us during tax season.

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Speaker 5: Dave Hatter, Yeah, so I'm sure this does not come

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Speaker 5: as a surprise to folks. During tax season, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of scams. You know, bad guys want to steal

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Speaker 5: your refund and obviously if you could get access to

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Speaker 5: someone's tax records, that's a lot of useful information that

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Speaker 5: could be used against you in a lot of ways. So, Brian,

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Speaker 5: we talk about scams all the time and during taxes,

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Speaker 5: and these things always increase. For years, people have been

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Speaker 5: stealing refunds. Again, that's probably the primary tactic. You finally

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Speaker 5: file your taxes and you get in and find out,

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Speaker 5: wait a minute, someone else has already found taxes under

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Speaker 5: your name and a refund has already been sent, which

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Speaker 5: now creates problems for you because you know, a whatever

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Speaker 5: they filed probably isn't accurate and may or may not

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Speaker 5: have warranted that refund which went out in your name,

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Speaker 5: and then b you got to try to unwind all that,

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Speaker 5: so it can be really problematic. That's one of the

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Speaker 5: reasons why a first piece of advice is file your taxes.

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Speaker 2: As early as possible.

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Speaker 5: Now, you know, we're already into March, the deadline's coming

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Speaker 5: up here, pretty soon. But as a general rule of thumb,

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Speaker 5: the sooner you can file your taxes the better because

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Speaker 5: it closes that window where someone else might be in

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Speaker 5: there trying to file taxes under your name. And you know,

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Speaker 5: as a reminder to folks, I just keep trying to

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Speaker 5: stress to people, there's so much of your day out

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Speaker 5: there now, and while there's really not a whole lot

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Speaker 5: you can do about that other than take steps to

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Speaker 5: protect yourself from the consequences like this, The less data

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Speaker 5: out there about you, the better. And all of that data,

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Speaker 5: I bet you every one in your listening audience has

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Speaker 5: had at least one and probably many letters from some

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Speaker 5: company telling you your data has been breached. All that

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Speaker 5: data is a treasure trove for the bad guys to

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Speaker 5: attack you or to impersonate you. So again, because of that,

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Speaker 5: it makes it easy for folks to do things like

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Speaker 5: file taxes. Is your name file early? Another thing you

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Speaker 5: can do is get a PIN from the IRS. So

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Speaker 5: I'm just going to quote this IRS offeras is an

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Speaker 5: identity protection pin ip PEN six digit code that helps

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Speaker 5: prevent unauthorized tax filings using your Social Security number and

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Speaker 5: helps prevent identity theft. Again, getting someone's social Security number

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Speaker 5: today is trivial because of all these data leaks. Right,

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Speaker 5: So you go to your online account at the IRS,

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Speaker 5: you create this pin, you save this pin somewhere ideally,

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Speaker 5: and a password manager, because you're using a secure password

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Speaker 5: manager like one password, you associate that with your IRS account,

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Speaker 5: and then in order to take action under your.

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Speaker 2: Name, you have to have that pin.

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Speaker 5: So I really strongly, strongly recommend everyone today, over the

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Speaker 5: weekend sometime soon, go in. If you haven't already set

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Speaker 5: up your online account with the IRS, make sure it

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Speaker 5: has a strong, unique password. The next recommendation, turn on

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Speaker 5: MFA on that account and all your accounts frankly, multi

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Speaker 5: factor authentication. Yes, set up your IRS PEN. That's going

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Speaker 5: to make it much much more difficult. You know, unless

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Speaker 5: someone can guess your PIN, your useer name, your password,

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Speaker 5: and get that MFA code right, have all four of

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Speaker 5: those things, they're not going to be able to log

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Speaker 5: into your account and file fraudulent taxes in your name.

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Speaker 1: See day, That's why we love you man. That is

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Speaker 1: solid information that it absolutely helps people avoid this problem.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 1: That's why I really appreciate you man. That's simple. It's

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Speaker 1: my pleasure, and it really that eliminates the potential. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine the workaround.

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Speaker 5: It would be very hard to get around it. And

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Speaker 5: then the last couple of tips, since a nonw we're

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Speaker 5: out of time, you know, go to the IRS website

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Speaker 5: and read what they tell you they will and will

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Speaker 5: not do. They tell you clearly on their IRS dot

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Speaker 5: gov the IRS does not initiate contact by email, text, message,

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Speaker 5: of social media. The IRS will not tell you to

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Speaker 5: pay your taxes with gift cards or Venmo or cryptocurrency

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Speaker 5: for an ATM or anything like that. Again, if you

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Speaker 5: go to IRS dot gov, they give you additional tips

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Speaker 5: to avoid this kind of thing. They tell you what

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Speaker 5: they will and will not do, so that when you

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Speaker 5: get something and you go, well, wait a minute, this

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Speaker 5: is telling me IO penalties and I need to pay

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Speaker 5: in bitcoin or something, you'll know it's a scam. And

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Speaker 5: then finally, if you're working with a taxpayer, a tax preparer,

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Speaker 5: you should ask them about their cybersecurity. You're giving them

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Speaker 5: extremely sensitive data. You know, even if you're using something

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Speaker 5: like Quicken Quickened, Turbo Tax to file your taxes or something,

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Speaker 5: you know you need to make sure strong unique password,

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Speaker 5: multi factor authentication, because if I can hack your Turbo

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Speaker 5: tax account, I now have access to all this sense

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Speaker 5: of information and I can do all of these nefarious things.

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Speaker 5: So you know, folks, you need to protect this data

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Speaker 5: file early if you can, and again use the IRS's

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Speaker 5: website to give you guidance about what they.

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Speaker 2: Will and will not do.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, Dave Hatter, always excellent advice, and thanks to

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Speaker 1: Interest I T. For helping businesses in the Tri State

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Speaker 1: area boid these kind of problems and get best practices

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Speaker 1: in place. Give Interest i T a call if you've

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Speaker 1: got some problems. They will definitely work them out.

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Speaker 4: Dave.

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Speaker 1: Until next Friday, have a wonderful weekend. Man, I thank

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Speaker 1: you again for what you're doing for us.

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Speaker 2: Always my pleasure. Brian, I'll look forward to chatting with

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Speaker 2: you next.

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Speaker 1: Week in studio. I'm looking at him, Brian Eyebold from

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Speaker 1: the Help Squad. It's got some seven o six on

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Speaker 1: a Friday. And my names Brian Thomas, host to the

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Speaker 1: fifty five Carsey Morning Show. And I've said in many

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Speaker 1: many and I'll be this is my nineteenth year coming,

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Speaker 1: it'll be twenty years in December, and I've always pointed

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Speaker 1: out that I love being in my position for no

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Speaker 1: other reason that I get to bring people and introduce

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Speaker 1: them to the world. Like Brian Ibold, who is in studio,

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Speaker 1: who started the Help Squad, which you can find the

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Speaker 1: Help Help Squad since he with a y dot com

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Speaker 1: and Brian's won on the program quite a bit over

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Speaker 1: the years, and you know, as part of his Christian

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Speaker 1: mission and his faith and his efforts to help people

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Speaker 1: truly in need in society, he started the Help Squad

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Speaker 1: and the idea was that there's nothing on the West Side,

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Speaker 1: or at least he perceived there was a huge need

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Speaker 1: on the West Side for an organization that can help

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Speaker 1: people get over these hurdles that we can never anticipate,

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Speaker 1: Folks that are already living on life's margins, who run

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Speaker 1: into a temporary situation like I can't make the rent

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Speaker 1: this month. I need a little help this month. And

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Speaker 1: they do a great job vetting people. These are not

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Speaker 1: just people making up stories, and so they do a

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Speaker 1: wonderful job of vetting. They get them the assistance they

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Speaker 1: need on a temporary basis, and that helps them over

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Speaker 1: that hurdle and it helps them to continue. You to

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Speaker 1: work and thrive and live in the community. So that's

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Speaker 1: the basis for it. And Brian Ebold, I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you for all the work that you've done. You've

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Speaker 1: been on and you've had some really heartwarming stories about

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Speaker 1: the the payoff for your efforts. I know that brings

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Speaker 1: a great smile on your face and I know those

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Speaker 1: that you have helped. It just keeps you going every

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Speaker 1: single day, I imagine, Brian Ibold, welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: show Man.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you so much, and I appreciate you explaining

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Speaker 9: what the Help Squad is.

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Speaker 1: I hope I did an adequate job.

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Speaker 9: You did, you did a very good job. I would

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Speaker 9: only add that you know, this Help Squad is a

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Speaker 9: little bit unique and we do go above and beyond

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Speaker 9: the basics of most nonprofits where we actually assist people

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Speaker 9: with utility bills to avoid shutoffs or get utilities turned

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Speaker 9: back on. We help families like you mentioned with pass

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Speaker 9: do rent payments to avoid eviction, free car repairs. We've

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Speaker 9: given away about a dozen vehicles to those in destiny

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Speaker 9: of transportation. You know, basically we are just a one

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Speaker 9: stop shop for struggling families.

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Speaker 1: And I have on my rundown and I know what

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Speaker 1: it is, because you told me about it before we

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Speaker 1: open the mic. You mentioned automobiles. You help people. You know,

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Speaker 1: a dozen or so automobiles you've got now so people

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Speaker 1: can actually get back and forth and have a job.

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Speaker 1: Amazing concept that, But there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: out there struggling financially. That that right there on that line,

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Speaker 1: and you read stories all the time about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: most Americans don't even have five hundred dollars to meet

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Speaker 1: an emergency situation. We don't want those people to not

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Speaker 1: be able to go to work and their incomes. The

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Speaker 1: therein lies a challenge. If you need an auto repair,

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Speaker 1: I just got through one the other life. I was

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Speaker 1: telling you, I just it was outrageous. I got rear

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Speaker 1: brakes put in my car, and I couldn't believe how

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Speaker 1: much ahead to pay for it. But automobile repairs are

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Speaker 1: really expensive. And you know anything's gonna cost you like

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Speaker 1: five hundred bucks these days. I mean a new set

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Speaker 1: of tires. Tires are outrageously expensive. But if your alternator

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Speaker 1: goes out, your car is dead and you cannot go

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Speaker 1: to work. You are doing a beautiful thing with this

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Speaker 1: new program you got together to Brian ibold. Let my

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: listeners know all about it, because we're going to get

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Speaker 1: more people to help out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So myself and our vice president, Sam Jasper been working

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Speaker 9: really closely with the president of Hamblon County's strategy to

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Speaker 9: end homelessness. His name is Kevin Finn.

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Speaker 3: Real good dude.

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Speaker 9: During our meetings, we learned that there are basically two

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Speaker 9: people or two ways to fall into homelessness. The first one,

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Speaker 9: you're already homeless, You're already down there. The second reason

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Speaker 9: is you run into a financial crisis that you cannot overcome,

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Speaker 9: get behind on your bills, get evicted and become homelessness

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Speaker 9: or become homeless. So I'd ask Kevin. I said, what

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Speaker 9: is the biggest reason people get behind on the bills

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Speaker 9: in the first place, which leads them to become homeless?

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Speaker 9: And Kevin said, car repairs. Now just think about that

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Speaker 9: for a second, car repairs. We can prevent a family

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Speaker 9: from becoming homeless with something simple as a car repair.

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Speaker 1: That alternator or yes, those tires or breaks, whatever happens

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Speaker 1: to be, that's the one thing that results in homelessness.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a weird thing to like to understand

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Speaker 1: or comprehend.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, sure, Well, we take transportation for granted. But let

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Speaker 9: me give you this example really quickly. So if you

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Speaker 9: have a single mom with three kids, working two jobs

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Speaker 9: and she's making ends meet, all this good, Rhynes, we

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Speaker 9: have my mom. That's exactly what my mother did.

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Speaker 1: All is good.

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Speaker 9: The next day her water pump goes out in her

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Speaker 9: car and it costs five hundred dollars like you mentioned,

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Speaker 9: to fix. Well, I can tell you right now she

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Speaker 9: doesn't have the five hundred dollars laying around or to

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Speaker 9: her circle of friends, and a lot of the clients

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Speaker 9: we deal with have affected credit so using a credit card.

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Speaker 1: Is not an option.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, right, So now the single mom can't get

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Speaker 9: to work, doesn't get paid, can't pay her bills, and

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Speaker 9: now her and her three children are living in Section

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Speaker 9: eight housing where she receives food vouchers, health insurance, paid utilities,

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Speaker 9: and much more. So let's just say conservatively, it costs

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Speaker 9: the taxpayers twenty five thousand dollars a year to house

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Speaker 9: this family who never wanted to be on government assistance

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Speaker 9: to begin with. Right, if we just would have paid

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Speaker 9: the five hundred dollars to fix her water pump to

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Speaker 9: begin with, we would have saved the taxpayer twenty four

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Speaker 9: five hundred dollars. And if you multiply that times the

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Speaker 9: hundreds of times this situation where something similar is happening

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Speaker 9: every day, we are talking millions of dollars that does

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01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 9: not need to be spent. Basically, give us two million,

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Speaker 9: we'll save you ten.

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Speaker 1: And this does not involve creating a brand new government

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Speaker 1: program with a lot of bureaucracy. It just involves individuals

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Speaker 1: like you who believe they have a mission to help

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 1: their fellow man and appreciate the overall economic benefit to

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Speaker 1: the entire society by preventing that thing from happening. What

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Speaker 1: do we need to do, Brian IYBLD. What have other

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: people done to help solve this problem? Because I know

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Speaker 1: you already have some partners in this, and I want

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Speaker 1: to give a huge shout out to every single one

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So really, this isn't an interview, Brian, this is more

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Speaker 9: of a call to action. You know, I've said we

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Speaker 9: need all your listeners, we need politicians, we need social

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01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 9: media influencers, we need sports figures, celebrities and every one

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Speaker 9: of your listeners. Since vehicle repairs is what is needed

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Speaker 9: the most to prevent family from becoming a homeless statistic.

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Speaker 9: This is a call to action to every service station,

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Speaker 9: every auto repair shop, every tow truck company, and every

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Speaker 9: audio parts store and every mechanic to join our list

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Speaker 9: of supporters who will give x amount of dollars in

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Speaker 9: free tax deductible car repairs. And as to date, right

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Speaker 9: now we have four service stations on board, totaling up

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Speaker 9: to about twenty five thousand dollars in free car repairs.

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Speaker 9: We're going to have four people who are on the

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Speaker 9: verge of becoming homeless and real quick. Those four service

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Speaker 9: stations are Matt Brogan a Brogan Fowles Oil on the

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Speaker 9: west Side, Mark Duber of Duber's Automotive, New Dover. He's

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Speaker 9: a good dude. You're all good dudes. Andrew Schneider of

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Speaker 9: Bear Car Care over there in White Oak, and finally

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Speaker 9: Mike Brogan a broken oil on Glennaway Avenue. Price sal

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Speaker 9: Me and Mike were since any police officers together. We

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01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 9: are in the riots together and you should have seen

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01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 9: that guy in action. So we have these four service

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Speaker 9: stations right now. We have a couple still that are

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Speaker 9: coming aboard, but it's right now, just with these four,

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Speaker 9: we have twenty five thousand dollars in free car repairs.

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Speaker 9: If we could get ten, fifteen, twenty more of these

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Speaker 9: service stations, we could put a huge dent in the

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Speaker 9: homelessness problem. We can do this. I mean we're talking

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Speaker 9: ten twenty thirty percent we could avoid of becoming homeless.

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Speaker 9: That's huge.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's huge. Yeah, and the return on investment. Again,

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Speaker 1: you it's nice that it is a tax deductible donation.

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Speaker 1: There's an incentive to join in the fund anyway. But

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Speaker 1: just the idea that you know, each one, let's say,

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Speaker 1: committing ten thousand dollars in repairs for a complete calendar year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably not a whole lot of skin. Maybe assuming a lot.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like to have to run

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Speaker 1: an automobile repair business, but you know, it's not a

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01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: tremendous amount overall. But if you get if the more people,

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: the more stations, and individuals who are in a position

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Speaker 1: to repair cars get involved, man, that could be a profound,

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01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: profound change. Oh yeah, yeah, keeping people we can and

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: people employed. Well, that's what we're hoping. We're hoping that

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Speaker 1: you can go to our website. I give you my

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01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: telephone number of the over the radio here.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't matter. We just need people to join our

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01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 9: cause and help us.

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Speaker 2: You know, put a dent in homelessness.

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Speaker 1: And I know you've got a couple of heartwarming stories

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: you can pass along about the work that the Help

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01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: Squad has been doing over the last several well since

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Speaker 1: we probably last talked. The Help Squad sinsy withthwy dot com.

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01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: You can donate right there. If you're not in a

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Speaker 1: position to be able to repair a car, at least

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: make a donation or contribution. Again, this organization focuses more

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: on the West Side, but this call to action, you're

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01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: asking for autobile or repair folks all across the Greaters

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01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: or the Tri State area to get right right.

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Speaker 9: This isn't just a West side thing. When you work

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Speaker 9: with Strategies DN Homelessness, it's for the entire Hamilton County

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01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 9: City of Cincinnati. So this isn't just specifically on the

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Speaker 9: west side. This is Hamilton County as a.

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Speaker 1: Whole, all right. So the individual that needs this assistance,

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01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: do they get in touch with the Help Squad through

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Speaker 1: that organization? I know they just don't go to directly, No.

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Speaker 4: Not at all.

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Speaker 9: They're gonna be They're gonna come from the Strategies den Homelessness,

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01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 9: so they're going to their people are going to find

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Speaker 9: these families that are on the verge of becoming homeless,

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Speaker 9: and then they're going to contact us. We will facilitate

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Speaker 9: the date and time of the car repair so the

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Speaker 9: service shop manager or owner does not have to deal

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Speaker 9: with every single client. We have will be the liaison

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Speaker 9: and uh we will facilitate all repairs.

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Speaker 1: And you'll also do that vetting. And we talked about

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01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh of course, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 9: If you can be vetted through Strategies and Homelessness and

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01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 9: the Help Squad, you're pretty needy.

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: You're in need, no question about that. We'll continue with

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Speaker 1: Brian Ibel or we have the bottom the hour of

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01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: the return of Brigham account our energy expert from the

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: Hudson Institute. We got an hour with Brigham all kinds

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01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: of wonderful and see the talk station seven twenty one.

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: I think about kersee talk station Happy Friday. We're gonna

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01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: talking energy policies Brigha McCowan for an hour after the

1449
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: segment of doing here with Brian Ibel from the Help Squad.

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01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: And I love having the Help Squad and I spread

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: the word about the low that they're passing along to

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Speaker 1: those in need. And of course, what a brilliant concept

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01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: getting folks automobile repairs who truly need it so they

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Speaker 1: can continue to work. I still am reeling over the

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Speaker 1: fact that an automobile repair is the number one cause

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Speaker 1: and leading a reason that someone ends up in a

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Speaker 1: homeless situation. Brian, that's just a real shocker. So the

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Speaker 1: Help Squad sends you with a y dot com where

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01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: you can help out by way of donation. If you

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01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: are someone with the skills audibile repair, you own your

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: automobile repair shop, you want to get involved anywhere in

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: the general Tri state area. You can be a part

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: of this ever growing team of folks providing those needed repairs.

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Speaker 1: Just some donation of time and parts. It's tax deductible

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: and you're going to all help yourself by doing that.

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Speaker 1: As Brian illustrated, I understand, Brian Eyebolt. You got a

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: fundraiser coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 9: That's actually a really cool one. So on sink of

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01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 9: to Mile that's May fifth. If you don't speak Spanish,

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01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 9: sink of to Mile. We have a huge fundraiser at

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Speaker 9: the Sign Museum.

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Speaker 1: What a great vest.

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01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 9: I mean, how much cooler can it get? No Sign

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01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 9: music right on cool as you can get exactly. And

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 9: what's also is really neat is that we're going to

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Speaker 9: have Schari Palo and Mike Dardis are going to be

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 9: the MC good for this for that event, so we're

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01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 9: very grateful for them. Tickets are on sale right now,

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01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 9: seventy five dollars a pop. You get food, entertainment, and

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01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 9: then again you have the Sime Museum as well. Plus

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 9: you'll get to hear me make a speech. Right, That's right,

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 9: that's worth the price emission right there.

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01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: Indeed, now going back, I I just was suggesting maybe

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01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: you can put a little human element, maybe pass along

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01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: an illustration of something that you have, some person or

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Speaker 1: family you helped out in the community by virtue of

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: your efforts at the help Squad. Just give people an

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01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: idea of what you're encountering and facing throughout the year.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, sure, I'll leave you with this. So we had

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 9: a lady calls not too long ago, and we were

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 9: the sixteenth age and see that she has contacted for

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Speaker 9: help and what she needed was rental assistance. She was

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01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 9: a she worked two jobs. She made money, made enough

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01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 9: money to make it. I mean, she made ends meet.

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Speaker 9: She had two children, and she had her dying mother

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Speaker 9: living in a hospital bed in their living room under

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Speaker 9: hospice care. And because of some of the costs associated

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Speaker 9: with that, she missed a rent payment and was going

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Speaker 9: to be evicted. Now do you under can you picture that?

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Speaker 2: Wheeland?

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Speaker 9: I mean, what is going on here living? Yes, like

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01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 9: when we live in a society that would allow that.

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 9: So sixteen agencies, we were the sixteenth fifteen fifteen of

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01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 9: the agencies where government ran, agencies that put you on hold,

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01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 9: don't call you back, or rude to you if they

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01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 9: do answer, don't have the money, always an excuse not

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01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 9: to help, okay. And we were the sixteenth. Ay, and

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01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 9: she she called me on a Wednesday, she was going

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 9: to have the eviction notice on a Friday. On Thursday,

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01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 9: we paid the rent totality and there is no eviction.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, Okay.

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Speaker 3: So what would have happened?

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01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 9: Seriously, do what would have happened if we weren't here?

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 9: I mean, what happens to families like that? And that's

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Speaker 9: what I mean. It's not just on the West side

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 9: people that need help.

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01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: It's everywhere. I mean, every.

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01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 9: Community should be a help squad community. I mean I

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01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 9: feel like I'm banging my head against a car door

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01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 9: to try to get people to understand this.

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Speaker 1: And let me just double down of the idea that

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01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: this is your Christian mission. You know, always bothers me

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01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: when I find out that the person leading any church

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01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: service the priest.

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Speaker 6: I'm mom.

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01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: Even anybody else telling you that a government program is

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: the solution, that is offloading your mission, that is a

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01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: human mission. Your gob obligation is a Christian is to

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: do it yourself, not hand over the keys of someone else.

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01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Because look what happens. Sixteen other organizations were supposed to

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01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,879
Speaker 1: be in a position to helper. It's the number sixteen

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: doing it on their own, not government run, not expecting anything,

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01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: not making a profit. And the organization that is this

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01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: isn't paying salaries. You just do it because you want

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01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: to help. Yeah, we're all volunteer, real help comes, yes, sir,

1537
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: we're all volunteers. Nobody gets paid, and we're all privately funded.

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01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: We have no grants, we have grant riders. We've never

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01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: gotten a grant. I mean, so and to my submarine

1540
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: friend Mike who suggested maybe you should tap into the

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: apparently infinite supply of n g OH money that the

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01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati's handing out. I would recommend no, because

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01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: then you get stuck having to work with those clowns.

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01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, you've got to be careful of, you know,

1545
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 9: getting in bed with the government and agencies like that.

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01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 9: But like I said, all of our up to for

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01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 9: the last five years have all been privately funded, all

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01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 9: just donations from friends and people that actually have a

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 9: concern for their fellow.

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Speaker 1: Brother and sister and proven results.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 9: Definitely, that's why this is working because we have proven

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01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 9: two people this works. They see where their money's going

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 9: and it works.

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01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Matthew twenty five. You give them a buck,

1556
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: a buck's going to where it's needed.

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 9: It's one percent of every day goes to help somebody.

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 9: Not a lot of agencies can say that.

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Speaker 1: There's a link on my blow up page thanks to

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01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 1: Joe Streger who put it up there that helps squadsensey

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01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: with the y dot com. I also put the ihead

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Speaker 1: him put the Strategies to End Homelessness dot org website

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Speaker 1: up as well. Since they're coordinating with you on these

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: automobile repair needs. God bless you, Brian Ibolt, and I

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01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: hope that you and I'm sure you did serve as

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01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: an inspiration to someone out there who said, you know what,

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01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get involved. Happy one to you, Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Welcoming back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show hour

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01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: energy policy expert Briingham Account from the Hudson Institute. You

1570
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: can find the Hudson Institute online at Hudson dot org

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01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: and and I recommend you check that out regularly. Bringham Account,

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01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,959
Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend. I appreciate what you do. Charged

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01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: Conversations is Brigham's podcast, and I recommend you check out

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01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: his podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back Brigham

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01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: live from Las Vegas. Joe Strecker awarded you the Wake

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01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Up Early Award. Congratulations, Thank you well, Brian.

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01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 6: It's great to be back on the show. We did

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01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 6: just put out a charge count about oil moving through

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01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 6: the Straits of horror moves coming out this week, but

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 6: thank you. I decided very wisely when I got in

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01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 6: yesterday to stay on East Coast time. Yes, good, it's dark, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I imagine it is, and I'm surprised you're not at

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01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: the Roulett Wheel or the blackjack table. They're twenty four

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01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: to seven. You never know what time it is in

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01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: Vegas when you're in a casino. Brigham a count you know.

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01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: I was cracking up on this. Yes, people are angry

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01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: about the price of gasoline going up. Locally. It's gone

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01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: up about I don't know, maybe a buck or maybe

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01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: even more depending on where you are within the last

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01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: several days. We're going to talk about why they jumped overnight.

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01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: But I'm getting the kick out of it because everybody's

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01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: screaming about it. This is Donald Trump's fault. Donald Trump's fault.

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Of course, when you engage in war, this does have

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: an impact on supply chain. Of course, when you shut

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01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: down the Straight of hornor Moves, where eighty percent of

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: the world's oil flows through, you're going to have a spike.

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01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: Now you'll explain why it spikes immediately, but it cracks

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: me up. High price of gas. Isn't that something Barack

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01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 1: Obama wanted and said we would have to deal with

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Speaker 1: because we're going to chase our jails trying to limit

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide. So if he does it through legislation, edicts

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01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: and mandates. The price goes up, and it's a good thing.

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01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 1: But when it happens to happen as a consequence of

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01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: sort of naturally occurring events like supply chain disruptions, it's

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01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: terrible and it's awful, and we all want our cheap

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: gas back.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're you're you're hit an out on the head something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't think we've talked about recently, but you're absolutely right.

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01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 6: Back during the Obama days, right, it was we have

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01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 6: to kick our addiction to oil. We have to get

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01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 6: off of it.

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01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 4: Everybody needs to it over.

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01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 6: The beginning days, the good days. Everybody needs an ev

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01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 6: everybody needs to turn their lights off, everybody needs to

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01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 6: use less energy. And how do you do that, Well,

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01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 6: you text the snot out of its artificially, yeah, yes.

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01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 6: Or you make policies that you know it's picking winners

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01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 6: and losers. You make something really expensive, you subsidize the

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01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 6: snot out of something else to make it look like

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01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 6: it's actually cheaper. And that's exactly what.

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01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Was going on back then, exactly. I always like to

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01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: just keep reminding people of that. It's a self inflicted wound.

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01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: When you're trying to chase carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.

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01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: And you may call it a self inflicted wind when

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01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: you engage in war, but this is a normally happening occurrence. Now,

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01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It's almost seven thirty five, so

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01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: I wanna pause, and you're gonna explain why gas prices

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01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: jumped overnight? Because I know they were sitting on stockpiles

1631
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: of oil and refined gasoline. So how was it that

1632
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: the price of that went up immediately when they acquired it,

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01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: when the price was a lot cheaper more with Bring

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01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: h mcown from the Hudson Institute. Right after I mentioned

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01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: Cross Country Mortgage, which is Sussette loads the camp's place

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01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: and she is licensed off from talk station seven forty

1637
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: fifty five cars Detoxation from the Hudson Institute online at

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01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Hudson dot org. Bring him acount at the Calm the

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: fifty five kr SE Morning Show. Energy Policy Expert, Energy

1640
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: policy expert. He is talking about the price of oil

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01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: and why how is it that it just immediately goes up?

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01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: How the price is store It started going up on

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01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: Saturday when we started telling people in the world that

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: we're dropping bombs on the Iranians. I see futures up

1645
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: just under eighty six dollars right now for at least

1646
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: some kind of crude they just typed in, So it's

1647
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: trending upward. Brighaman, that does make some sense given the

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01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: current instability, the straight of horror moonves issues which we

1649
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: can elaborate on a little bit. But why overnight, Brigham,

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01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Why is it?

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01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, fear moves the market first. Prices

1653
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 6: rise on risk and uncertainty, not just confirmed shortages. And

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01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 6: that's kind of what we've seen number one, number two,

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01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 6: even though the United States doesn't really get much oil frankly,

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01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 6: it's negligible from the Middle East. If this were nineteen

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01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 6: seventy three again or two thousand again, you'd be paying

1658
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 6: four fifty five dollars already.

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01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's when OPEC had a lock on global oil

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01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: supply and we all thought there was a finite amount

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01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: of oil. We're dealing with peak oil and oh my god,

1662
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: we're all going to die. They cut this pigot off,

1663
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: and I remember the the pictures of wines around the

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01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: corner with people waiting, and well, remember the even odd

1665
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 1: license plate numbers. You could go to a gas station

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01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: if your license plate was even on one day and

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01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: odd on the other. Yeah, those were difficult times. And

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01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: of course we had the stagflation of the seventies that

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01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: made that thing even worse. We don't have that problem

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01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: anymore because we engage in and above the above, all

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01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 1: of the above, including drill baby, drill strategy. Now, isn't

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01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 1: that true? Brigham?

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 6: That is one hundred percent true. And even though prices

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01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 6: have responded quickly, and the reason for that is you're

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01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 6: preparing to buy your next unleaded gasoline, your next diesel,

1676
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 6: so your prices at the pump actually reflect what you're

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01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 6: going to pay to replace what's already there, and that's

1678
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,879
Speaker 6: why they move pretty quickly. But right now gasoline prices

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01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 6: are about where they were in twenty twenty four. So, yeah,

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01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 6: are they high?

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01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 6: Do I think they're going to go back down within

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01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 6: two to three weeks.

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01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 4: I do.

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01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 6: If you look at all the major conflicts and crises,

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01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 6: and at Hudson, we've taken a look at that. These

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01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 6: sp make sure what they call transit, they don't last

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01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 6: very long. When Iran and Israel got into it, most recently,

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01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 6: when the Persian Gulf War from the nineteen nineties happened.

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Speaker 6: All of these things reside relatively quickly in the big

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01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 6: scheme of things.

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01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's because they're not permanent Brigham like statutes, policies,

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01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: and you know, the impediments of using gasoline that the

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01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: administration I would argue, like Obama to fariously put in

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01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: place in the name of oh my god, we're all

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01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: going an eye global warming one hundred and fifty years

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01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: down the road. Those don't go away very easily. They

1698
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: stay in place. And in other words, the price of

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01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: gasoline will stay up because it was intended to do

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01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: just that. Straight to horror moves is going to open

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01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: up at some point, presumably bring them, and then they'll

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01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: go back down again because the economic realities of supply

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01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: will have changed absolutely.

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01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 6: I mean, it's what we'd like say, economics one oh one,

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01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 6: supply and demand. You have too much supply, price goes down.

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01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 6: You have too much demand, price goes up. And we're

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01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 6: already seeing some things. Saudi Arabia has a pipeline, it's

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01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 6: actually two pipelines. They're massive. They can move up to

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01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 6: six million barrels a day. Right now it's doing a

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Speaker 6: little under two. They're getting that thing back up and running.

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Speaker 6: So they're going to push six million out of the

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Speaker 6: twenty million that the Persian Gulf pushes out every day

1713
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 6: over to the Red Sea to bypass the straight at

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01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 6: hornor moves altogether. So that's going to come online pretty quickly,

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Speaker 6: I think within the next five to seven days. Number one,

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Speaker 6: Number two United States has given a thirty day relief

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Speaker 6: for countries to purchase some stranded Russian oil on the market.

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01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 6: Don't like it, but needs to happen in the short term,

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01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 6: so that will reduce pricing. And then according to Admiral

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Speaker 6: Connell of by United States Navy, it's very proud of

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01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 6: what they've been doing out there. Tacks, ballistic missile launches,

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01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 6: drone launches are down by ninety percent. We've now hit

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01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 6: over thirty of their Iranian naval vessels. They pretty much

1724
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 6: have no functioning navy at this point. Including overnight we

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01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 6: destroyed a drone tearing aircraft carrier, an American World War

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01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 6: two carrier. So I think this is going to resolve itself,

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01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 6: and they're not. This part of it is going to

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Speaker 6: resolve itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've reduced the missile strikes down like by ninety percent,

1730
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 1: and the drone strikes down any low eighty percent reduction,

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01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: So just a little bit left and we blow up

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01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: more of the manufacturing facilities and continue attack the mission

1733
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: launching sites. The problem in the Strait of Horror moves

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01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: may solve itself simply because the Iranians have nothing to

1735
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: do by way of blowing up ships going through it.

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Speaker 1: I also noted Brigham that some of the ships are

1737
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: taking are just taking the risk and going through on

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01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: their own.

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01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, some are still going through. And it really comes

1740
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 6: back to war risk insurance. You know you have insurance

1741
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 6: on your car. Well, the ship has insurance, the cargo

1742
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 6: has insurance, and whether or not you're willing to pay

1743
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,560
Speaker 6: a very high price to get that done, or some

1744
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 6: ships are just going through even if they can't get

1745
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 6: the right insurance. President Trump has announced the US will

1746
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 6: also offer insurance and has suggested that perhaps the Navy

1747
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 6: will get involved.

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Speaker 8: Well, we'll see if.

1749
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 6: That's necessary, and we'll see how that moves. But there

1750
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 6: are hundreds of ships tied up wanting to leave right now.

1751
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 6: And again, that oil doesn't come to us that you know,

1752
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 6: the main beneficiary of that oil are Asian nations. Including

1753
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 6: some friends like Japan and South Korea, but large percentage

1754
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 6: that oil Brian goes to China.

1755
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Speaker 1: So well, you point it out before the oil is

1756
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: a global market. Price of oil is established based upon

1757
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: the quantity that's available in the world, not necessarily because

1758
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: we don't have our own, but it's just a defined

1759
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: sort of an economic fact that we can have to

1760
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: deal with.

1761
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 6: It is it is, and it's always been a global market,

1762
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 6: and it's risk. And you know, whether you're for or

1763
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 6: against what the current administration is doing, at the bottom

1764
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 6: line is you've got a regime that has attacked ships

1765
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 6: for forty seven years, has said they would close the golf,

1766
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 6: which again you're not allowed to do. It's an international passageway.

1767
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 6: So you know, dealing with this once and for all,

1768
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 6: I think will lead to longer term stability.

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Speaker 1: If that's the goal, well, I think that's an excellentployee

1770
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: to double down on. If you hadn't engaged militarily in

1771
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: trying to topple the Iranians, then they are and were

1772
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: in a position at any moment in time to shut

1773
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: down the straight of horror moves because they have all

1774
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: the rockets and missiles there. He can announce it to

1775
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: the world. Any ships going through, we're going to blow

1776
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: them up. And that sounds like a totally Iranian thing

1777
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: to do based upon their past history. So maybe in

1778
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: the future they'll never be able to do it again,

1779
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: and that'll bring about so much global stability. The price

1780
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: of gas will go below fifty bucks a barrel or

1781
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 1: something like that. Brigha mcaal, We've got a lot more

1782
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: to talk about. At seven forty six, we'll bring Brigham

1783
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 1: back and we'll ultimately we're gonna end up talking about

1784
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Ohio utilities owning nuke plants. This is going to be

1785
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: a good thing. I think Brigham will enlighten us on

1786
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: his position on that. But if you're dealing with cracks

1787
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: stains response. I'm talking about concrete from this war risk

1788
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: insurance you mentioned. And I understand that you get a

1789
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: policy of insurance, and of course actuaries determine what the

1790
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: risk is and the premium is determined on it. But

1791
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: when you got a war right there next to where

1792
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: the insured vessels are going back and forth, insurance companies

1793
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 1: act in their best interest and cancel it. Donald Trump

1794
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: suggested maybe the United States would act as the I

1795
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: don't know, insurer of last resort or something like that.

1796
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: I kind of question whether Donald Trump has the ability

1797
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: to just immediately say, yeah, we're going to shoulder the

1798
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: burden of ensuring your vessels are going to get through.

1799
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, there is. That's a good point. And there is

1800
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Speaker 6: a US Finance and Development Corp. I'm probably not getting

1801
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 6: the name exactly right that could possibly be the vehicle

1802
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 6: for that. But you know, when I first heard about

1803
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 6: war risk insurance, I thought, oh, this only happens during war. Well,

1804
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 6: actually they carry war risk all the.

1805
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Time, the time you're there.

1806
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 6: That's how long we've been dealing with this. Remember, let's

1807
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 6: rewind the tape to nineteen eighty seven, nineteen eighty eight

1808
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 6: Operation Ernest Will. We reflagged a bunch of foreign tankers

1809
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 6: under US flags and escorted them with navy ships through

1810
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 6: the straight of foreign news because I guess who was

1811
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 6: threatening them, Brian the Iranians. Yes, oh, how'd you know?

1812
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 1: Cocking?

1813
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, so's their country goes right there.

1814
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it is on top of the strait we're

1815
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: talking about.

1816
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 6: It is this is, this has been going on for

1817
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 6: a very long time. And uh, you know, so to

1818
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 6: your point, now, what the good news is, but we're

1819
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 6: not seeing are cargo is being canceled. The ships are there,

1820
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 6: they're waiting, they're waiting to load, or they're already loaded waiting.

1821
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 6: And you know, the prevailing thoughts seem to be that

1822
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 6: one to two weeks smacks on this that we'll see.

1823
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: They could be wrong, little tea leaf reading. I like

1824
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: the optimism on that one bill, but the direction everything

1825
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: is going, the limitation of the number of missile strikes,

1826
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: and the uh well, the evisceration of the Iranian military

1827
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: generally speaking, and the destruction of their navy, all of

1828
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,919
Speaker 1: it can lead to a short duration of this shutdown.

1829
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: So all right, we got that positive going for us,

1830
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: But you know, I got to observe bring before we

1831
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: part company and bring you back after the top of

1832
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: the internet to talk about nuke power here in Ohio.

1833
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: All those ships are still in the gulf there right.

1834
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see them parked. I've seen the maps.

1835
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Those are not outside of the reach of Iranian missiles either.

1836
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: Just because the strait of Horror moves is that really narrow,

1837
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: dangerous spot that you have to creep through, it doesn't

1838
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: mean they're without harm or potential for harm.

1839
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're definitely within harm's reach and they're just sitting there.

1840
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 6: So if iron had the capacity to strike them, I

1841
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 6: guess as they would, And you're right. The strait it's

1842
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 6: narrow by I don't know shipping terms. It's about twenty

1843
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 6: one nautical miles. It's about twenty four land miles wide.

1844
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 6: But there are two transit quarters. They're only two miles

1845
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 6: wide each, so you can pick them off there when

1846
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 6: they're moving. But right now they're all sitting there at

1847
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 6: anchor and nothing's happening.

1848
01:37:59,760 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1849
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: I bring that up to point that out. It could

1850
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,759
Speaker 1: happen right now, not in the strait, So yeah, thankfully

1851
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: it's not, which suggests your optimism I think is well placed.

1852
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: Brigham account will bring it back live from Las Vegas

1853
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: live at the Sphere. Metallica is opening for him. He's

1854
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: bring the account from the Hudson Ins too. We'll talk

1855
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: nuke policy coming up out of the top of the

1856
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:19,959
Speaker 1: our news. Don't go away, what's.

1857
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: Happening over there. You cannot be ever allowed to have

1858
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons.

1859
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: Hey O six at fifty five krs the talk station

1860
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 1: behind Thomas here on a Friday, which I love My Fridays.

1861
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 1: And I love when we had brigingmcoun from the Hudson

1862
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Instudo and you can find one line at Hudson dot

1863
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: org our energy policy expert. All right, we're walking through

1864
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: the crazy reality of gasoline. Yes, the price goes up

1865
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: immediately straight up our news. A problem which will probably

1866
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: be ironed out in relatively short term. So you should

1867
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: expect the guts to go back down, so sayth Brigham

1868
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: account and I'm with him on the optimism. Along those lines,

1869
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm also briging mccownt Finally, we appear to have come

1870
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 1: to a point in time where nuclear power will be embraced.

1871
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Thank you to artificial intelligence. Love it or hated. The

1872
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: huge demand and the building of all the these AI facilities,

1873
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: which seems to be the obvious wave of the future,

1874
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 1: use up massive quantities of power, And oh my god,

1875
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: is AI the solution to this ridiculous climate religion? Brigham

1876
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 1: a gown. Are we finally solving the problem?

1877
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 6: Well, I think it has certainly exacerbated its downfall. And Brian,

1878
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 6: you know even the Europeans are coming back to two

1879
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 6: key principles. One, the world has never used less energy,

1880
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 6: only more. Two I'm gonna add a third one two.

1881
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 6: If there is an energy transition, it's to a new

1882
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 6: power source that gives you more power, not less.

1883
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: Right and reliable, reliable to Brigham, don't forget that. It's

1884
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: gotta work.

1885
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 6: Yes, it's got to be accessible, available, and affordable. The

1886
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 6: key definition of energy security, which was the third point

1887
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 6: I was going to make, which is, if you don't

1888
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 6: have energy, it ruins your economy, it ruins your national security.

1889
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 6: It is the magic that makes everything run. And people

1890
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 6: are starting to realize that and finally figuring that out.

1891
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 6: And I think AI has precipitated that a little more quickly.

1892
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, I got to be the first person, not

1893
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: the first person to point it out. But I think

1894
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: that's the nefarious reality behind this whole global warming thing.

1895
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I think it was intentionally designed to undersigned undermine our

1896
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: consumptive economy. That was the purpose. It's not really that

1897
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 1: we're exhaling ourselves into oblivion. Is that we just consume

1898
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 1: too much here in America, as with other developed Western countries,

1899
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 1: so go right for the jugular cut off their electricity supply,

1900
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 1: and their consumption necessarily goes down because their economies collapse.

1901
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 6: I certainly think there is a guilt complex in many

1902
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 6: Western societies where people are guilty of what we've achieved.

1903
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 6: And you know, why do you think everybody wants to

1904
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 6: come to America or Europe? Because they want they want

1905
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 6: a better life. They you know, our system ain't perfect,

1906
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 6: but it's better that all the others.

1907
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I call it a religion. You know,

1908
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: quite often religion will cause people to feel guilty about

1909
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: filling the blank in your world, whatever that happens to be. Yeah, well,

1910
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: if you're out breathing, living, consuming, you need to feel

1911
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 1: guilty about it all day long. I just it's truly truly,

1912
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Again I say nefarious. I just that's all I can conclude.

1913
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: You're intentionally harming yourself by engaging in legislative activities regulatory

1914
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: activities that make us less secure and cause our energy

1915
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 1: to cost more. That sounds like a recipe for it

1916
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 1: is stupidity in action. But nonetheless that's the road we

1917
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 1: went down. So pivoting back over to nuclear power. First off,

1918
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 1: for all the people who are wed to the religion

1919
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: and still think that carbon dioxide's a bad thing, they

1920
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: don't excel expel carbon dioxide. Bring them well, there's a

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Speaker 1: problem solved right there.

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Speaker 6: They don't. They don't do any of that. And people say, well, wait,

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Speaker 6: nuclear waste. But you know, we've talked about this I

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Speaker 6: think before.

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Speaker 2: Is that if you.

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Speaker 6: Gathered up all the nuclear waste in the country, it's

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Speaker 6: fit on a football field.

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Speaker 2: It is not.

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Speaker 6: It is not as big as one thinks. Does it

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Speaker 6: last very long time? Yes, which is why we need

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Speaker 6: to build building advanced generation reactors that use less, that

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Speaker 6: create less byproducts. Oh and by the way, it will

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Speaker 6: be recyclable, so folks that are into that, we won't

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Speaker 6: have the waste that we had, say from the nineteen

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Speaker 6: sixties or seventy well, with.

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Speaker 1: Small modular reactors. I understand the quantity of waste after

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Speaker 1: it's gone, after it's been used up over its useful life,

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Speaker 1: which is really a long time twenty plus years or

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Speaker 1: even longer for SMR. So by the time you let

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Speaker 1: a couple of decades, three decades, even four decades past

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Speaker 1: and it becomes waste, there's not that much of it,

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Speaker 1: even less so than that than the reactors that we

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Speaker 1: used to use.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's very little, and it is amazing, and you know,

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Speaker 6: it's technology that is finally coming full circle. Civilian nuclear actors,

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Speaker 6: and again I hate say this is a problem with Iran.

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Speaker 6: Civilian nuclear actors require three to five, we'll say, even

1948
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Speaker 6: ten percent enriched uranium. So when you talk to the roundings,

1949
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Speaker 6: you're like, hey, hey, guys, why are you doing this?

1950
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Speaker 6: We just want to clear a few Well, why are

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Speaker 6: you enriching it to sixty percent? I don't know, why

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Speaker 6: are you doing it one hundred feet underground?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: What we need here in the US is three to

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Speaker 6: five maybe ten if you're using some medical stuff percent enrichment.

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Speaker 6: It's not weapons grade stuff.

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Speaker 1: Out there all right, Before we get to the regulatory

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Speaker 1: challenges that one faces if they choose to build a

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Speaker 1: reactor or otherwise embrace this technology, do we have sufficient

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Speaker 1: quantities of uranium at our disposal? I mean, there was

1961
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Speaker 1: all that concern some years ago that we sold our uranium.

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Speaker 1: I basically sold our uranium rights off to the Russians,

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Speaker 1: And I'm just kind of wondering where we are in

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Speaker 1: terms of uranium supply.

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Speaker 6: We're spinning back up, but we're certainly the eight ball.

1966
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Speaker 6: We were the world's largest producer of uranium or not

1967
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Speaker 6: now after the Soviet Union fell. We bought up all

1968
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Speaker 6: of their leftover stuff, including idly enriched eighty ninety percent

1969
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Speaker 6: for I E. Bombs, and we down blended it and

1970
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Speaker 6: we had decades of fuel and we let our domestic

1971
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Speaker 6: industry atrophy and basically go away. And so now we

1972
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Speaker 6: are needing to rebuild Canada. We can ever sort that

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Speaker 6: deal out. Canada has uranium we can get. We can

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Speaker 6: produce uranium. We used to make it here in Paducah

1975
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Speaker 6: and Pike Paduca, Kentucky and Piked, Ohio. That was the

1976
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Speaker 6: world epicenter for enriching uranium. And we're starting to spend

1977
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Speaker 6: that back up literally with the new generation centrifuge enrichment machines,

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Speaker 6: which is.

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Speaker 2: The way to do it now.

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Speaker 1: Well, not in my backyard is a refrain from folks

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Speaker 1: that you know, are maybe facing a new nuclear power

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Speaker 1: facility being built in their neighborhood or funeral area. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of going after the uranium itself, can that

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Speaker 1: be done safely? I imagine a lot of people might

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Speaker 1: have some concern about just mining this stuff close to

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Speaker 1: where they live.

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Speaker 6: Well, like rare earth minerals mining it. It's in such

1988
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Speaker 6: rare concentrations. There's some radioactivity and all the earth around us, right,

1989
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Speaker 6: and you go out and look around. It's the processing

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Speaker 6: of it, and it requires vast amounts to sift out

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Speaker 6: all the impurity to actually make it you know, high

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Speaker 6: more highly enriched. And so that's totally safe process and

1993
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be concerned about that. I think the question

1994
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Speaker 6: is do you want to live next to a nuclear

1995
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Speaker 6: power plan? And I think a lot of supporters of

1996
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Speaker 6: nuclear power like it. But the NIMBI thing is real.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: But see, I'll go back to and again our listeners

1999
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Speaker 1: are going to I know where he's going on this one.

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Speaker 1: You know the idea that we've been using these small

2001
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Speaker 1: reactors in our military ships since late nineteen fifties without incident. Hell,

2002
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Speaker 1: our sailors and our navy work literally right next to

2003
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Speaker 1: these things. I've never heard anybody complain about, you know,

2004
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Speaker 1: glowing in the dark after working on them. And there

2005
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: they are. They fit inside of a ship. So what

2006
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: is the footprint with that concept in mind, what's the size?

2007
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Speaker 1: What's the footprint of a small modular reactor? How much

2008
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 1: space it takes because you don't need one of those

2009
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Speaker 1: giant cooling tower things or multiples of those, they're not

2010
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Speaker 1: nearly as big as the old schools, say three mile

2011
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Speaker 1: island type reactors that they build at one time.

2012
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Speaker 7: They're not.

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Speaker 6: They are a couple of eighteen wheeler you know, trailers,

2014
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Speaker 6: fifty fifty three foot trailers as sort of the size

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Speaker 6: we're talking about. But you know, we also need to

2016
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Speaker 6: keep constructing large nuclear reactors because the SMRs are great,

2017
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Speaker 6: but they are they produce less power obviously, although you

2018
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Speaker 6: can hook them up in parallel.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking, you know, if the artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: facilities are required now to generate their own power, that

2022
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Speaker 1: seems to be the most logical direction to go, unless

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Speaker 1: you're next to maybe hydro power or something else that

2024
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Speaker 1: can provide twenty four to seven power. So maybe they'll

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Speaker 1: have enough to give the neighborhood its own source of electricity.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they've met their own needs and they're

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Speaker 1: generating more power than they need, there you go, we've

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Speaker 1: got access to more and that sounds like a good thing.

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Speaker 6: You know, it is a good thing. And unfortunately, again

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Speaker 6: because of prior administrations prematurely retiring coal fired and other

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Speaker 6: fossil fuel power plants, we're in a bit of a crunch.

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Speaker 6: Right now, we have a lot that is being projected.

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Speaker 6: I think ten years from now we're going to be great.

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Speaker 6: But right now we don't have enough power, and many

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Speaker 6: utilities are telling their commercial customers AI data centers, do

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Speaker 6: you best get your own power behind the meter? We're

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Speaker 6: not going to be able to do it right now,

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Speaker 6: and that's a huge problem, and it's a direct result

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Speaker 6: of poor policy by previous administrations.

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Speaker 1: Well, that allows us to stumble onto the next one,

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Speaker 1: the Ohio proposal about utilities owning nuclear generation. I think

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Speaker 1: maybe we've run into another regulatory challenge, the debate centering

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Speaker 1: on whether electric utilities that deliver power should also be

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Speaker 1: allowed to own their own power plants. That sounds to

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Speaker 1: me like somebody had a regulation and that says they can't.

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Speaker 1: We'll let Brigham explain that one to us when we

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Speaker 1: get back. It's eight sixteen, fifty five KRCD talk station

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Speaker 1: fifty five krc per CD talk station A twenty fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station. Brian Thomas with Brigha McCown. He's

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Speaker 1: calling in from Las Vegas, Nevada. We're talking energy policy.

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Speaker 1: Hudson dot orgs where you find the Hudson Institute. Brigha McCown.

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Speaker 1: The traditional utility model, the power companies generated the power,

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Speaker 1: coal plant, gas plant, nukes, whatever, and then they delivered

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Speaker 1: it and that's what we paid for. Why did we

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Speaker 1: restructure that model and how did it not inure to

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Speaker 1: our benefit in the nineteen nineties And where do we

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Speaker 1: need to go today? Brigha McCown.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ohio separated electric generation from delivery in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 6: nine when it restructure the power sector under a Senate bill.

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Speaker 6: And since then, you know, electric power systems have two

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Speaker 6: distinct roles. First, you have generation, and these companies build

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Speaker 6: and just operate power plants. They take on the costs.

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Speaker 6: The revenue comes from selling that electricity wholesale onto the markets.

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Speaker 6: The second traditional utility company we think of it is

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Speaker 6: transmission and distribution, and these companies own the poles, the wires,

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Speaker 6: the substations, and they're regulated by the Public Utilities Commission

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Speaker 6: of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 6: Back in ninety nine they separated these two mainly so

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Speaker 6: that the public wasn't going to be on the hook

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Speaker 6: for developing power plants. And nuclear power plants operate under

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Speaker 6: very different different economic models. They're very expensive to build,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's the current push to smash everything

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Speaker 6: back together against I'll pause.

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Speaker 1: There brand expensive to build? Are they really truly expensive

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Speaker 1: to build? Or do we make that expensive to build?

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Speaker 1: Because first off, again, small modular actors are like legos,

2078
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Speaker 1: one size fits all. Once you have a design model

2079
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Speaker 1: that works, you just pull up that trailer you were

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Speaker 1: talking about, plug it in. And I know I'm boiling

2081
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Speaker 1: it down to simplicity, but plug it in and it's done.

2082
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Speaker 1: The reactors that they have been building since they started building,

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Speaker 1: and what the exception of the military are all these

2084
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Speaker 1: giant one off one size does not fit all. So

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot of design, development, regulatory approval, blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. It takes forever to even get one started.

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Speaker 1: I mean to lay the first brick in the ground

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Speaker 1: on one. So we're not there anymore. So does it

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Speaker 1: really need to be expensive going down this road?

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Speaker 6: Well, to really do this and to transition us over

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Speaker 6: to nuclear power, we need both. We need big reactors

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Speaker 6: and we need smaller reactors. The key is that we

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Speaker 6: make them exactly the same. And of the big reactors

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Speaker 6: around the country, no two of them are alike. No

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01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 6: two of them are the same. This is the the

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 6: idiocy frank play of the industry in the past is guys,

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Speaker 6: so you wonder why every single one has to be

2098
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Speaker 6: licensed from scratch. Stop changing things mass produce a car,

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Speaker 6: you know, hey Ford, it's not that hard.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So that is so there is a Westinghouse design that

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Speaker 6: has kept out and it's been the government's been reluctant.

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Speaker 6: I think the industry has been reluctant to just say, okay,

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Speaker 6: we're going to build one type well, okay five, license

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Speaker 6: three or four and small, medium, large, micro, whatever, and

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Speaker 6: that's what we get. That would cut the cost down

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Speaker 6: significantly because a large nuclear actor costs ten to twenty

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Speaker 6: billion dollars to construct, but once if you built it

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Speaker 6: could operate for sixty or seventy years with these very

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Speaker 6: low fuel costs. So the challenge has been financing that

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Speaker 6: initial construction. And if Ohio puts it all back together again,

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Speaker 6: the concern is the rate payers I, E and I

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Speaker 6: and everyone else listening. We're going to be asked to

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Speaker 6: finance this project as opposed to the utility company going

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Speaker 6: out into the private market and finding financing.

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Speaker 1: Is that financing impossible to find? If we go back

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Speaker 1: maybe to the old way. Will there will there be

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Speaker 1: a market for financing.

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Speaker 6: This, Well, it's not, but you know private financing, and

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Speaker 6: there is public financing available. Department of Energy has financing

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Speaker 6: available to the government. But you know when institutional lenders

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Speaker 6: lend money, they're very particular. There's a lot of oversight,

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Speaker 6: more oversight frankly than the Public Services Commission, who's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you need more money, it costs more, Okay, I'll pass

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Speaker 6: another rate hike through. So there is some concern that

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Speaker 6: we're going to get stuck with the end, with people

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Speaker 6: being inefficient and this thing costing too much, which is

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Speaker 6: what happened to the last reactor we just brought online.

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Speaker 1: Down in Georgia, Brigg, McCowan, Hudson, and sut I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your willingness to come on the morning show, even when

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Speaker 1: you're out of town. I know you've got stuff to

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Speaker 1: get to right away, so I'm gonna let you go,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate the time. Like I said, I hope

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Speaker 1: you have a wonderful weekend. Safe travels Backbreger and we'll

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Speaker 1: get you back on asap.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, Brian, appreciate it, My pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Take twenty five network dot Com reporting on matters impacting

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Speaker 1: us here in the state of Ohio. Welcome back, Jack Windsor.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you on the Zoom call and

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Speaker 1: good to hear your voice here on the fifty five

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Speaker 1: Krssey Morning Show.

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Speaker 10: Happy Friday to you man, Happy Friday, Brian. Always an

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Speaker 10: honor and a pleasure to be here with you and

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Speaker 10: the KRC listeners. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got choices when it comes to Secretary of

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Speaker 1: State here, and we've got a primary coming up, and

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Speaker 1: the choices are Marcel Sturbage and Robert Sprague. And Marcel's

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Speaker 1: been on the program a couple of times. I've been

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Speaker 1: very impressed by him. When you hear him talk, he

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Speaker 1: is man, he is committed, he's on point, he's got

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Speaker 1: on message. He comes across strong, very clear in his

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Speaker 1: vision what he hopes to accomplish in the role in

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Speaker 1: the office. His background is great, obviously, proudly served his

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Speaker 1: country in the military. And I just go to sturbridgefor

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Speaker 1: Ohio dot Com. You can find out for yourself. I

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Speaker 1: asked Joe Strecker going into the conversation or this morning, Jack,

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Speaker 1: if Robert Sprague has ever reached out to us or

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Speaker 1: and Joe said that is a big no. And also

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Speaker 1: there have been nothing but crickets in response to the

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Speaker 1: outreach from US to have him on the program to

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Speaker 1: hear what he's all about. So I find that rather strange.

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Speaker 1: But having talked with Marcel, I can't find anything wrong

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Speaker 1: with a man and his candidacy. So what's your take

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Speaker 1: on Marcel? And it seems to me like it's one

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Speaker 1: of those Republican parties sort of protecting one of its

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Speaker 1: own entrenched members. Am I onto something with that statement?

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Speaker 8: Jack?

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Speaker 10: I think you're one hundred percent on to something. Brian,

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Speaker 10: First of all, I have personally endorsed Marcel Sturbage for

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Speaker 10: Secretary of State, and it was a real simple decision

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Speaker 10: for me. I've had mart Cell on my program forever

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Speaker 10: the past couple of years, and he has been one

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Speaker 10: hundred percent accurate in his ability to assess where Ohio

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Speaker 10: is with election integrity and what steps need to occur,

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Speaker 10: and he has been talking about those steps, he has

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Speaker 10: been working with the legislature to bring about those changes,

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Speaker 10: and so when he decided to run for Secretary of State,

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Speaker 10: it was an easy choice for me to get behind

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Speaker 10: him now. I do want to say Robert Sprague has

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Speaker 10: visited with me before, but that was back when he

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Speaker 10: still wasn't sure if he was trying to get appointed

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Speaker 10: to the US Senate, when Governor Dwine was trying to

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Speaker 10: make his choice, and it was before he decided to

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Speaker 10: run for governor, if you remember that. So it was, well,

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Speaker 10: maybe I want to be in the Senate, maybe I

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Speaker 10: want to be governor, and then eventually he settled on

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Speaker 10: this Secretary of State role. I do want to say

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Speaker 10: I think Robert Sprague is a good man. I think

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Speaker 10: Robert Sprague is a prudent person, and I think that

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Speaker 10: if he were in a position, he would do well.

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Speaker 10: The challenge is, I don't think he's as good as

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Speaker 10: his competitor for this specific role.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And that's kind of the conclusion I'm reaching in.

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Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to think that for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I've got some action to grind against Robert Sprague. I

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Speaker 1: just don't recall talking to him. Joe said if he

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Speaker 1: was ever on the show with like maybe one time.

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Speaker 1: And I don't expect anyone to necessarily come on the show.

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Speaker 1: That's their prerogative. But I don't know enough about the

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Speaker 1: man compared to Marcel to make that decision. So I

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Speaker 1: guess I find myself in your Campjack with this now

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Speaker 1: just look good? No, no, no, I'm being honest with

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Speaker 1: my listeners. So, now is the deck stacked against Marcel

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Speaker 1: in the sense he doesn't have a shot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how's he looking as we headed under the primary?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great question.

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Speaker 1: His polling numbers look fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a controversy.

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Speaker 10: First of all, he commissioned a poll, and he's the

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Speaker 10: guy that many in the parties say can't raise the money. Well,

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Speaker 10: he raised enough money to actually conduct a poll, and

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Speaker 10: according to that poll, a huge number of people are undecided, which,

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Speaker 10: by the way, should not be surprising. The secretary of

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Speaker 10: state race in a midterm election is not at the

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Speaker 10: top of everyone's punch list to research. Generally, However, the

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Speaker 10: people who had made a decision or thought they had

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Speaker 10: made a decision, he is Marcel Sturbage.

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Speaker 3: That is up by eight point.

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Speaker 10: Now, when the voters were informed about his platform, his

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Speaker 10: margin of victory spreads to forty seven points. So once

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Speaker 10: they understand who he is and what he is, that

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Speaker 10: number gets larger. Now, many people in the other camps

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Speaker 10: say well, that's not a legitimate poll, and then Marcel

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Speaker 10: points to the fact that the Republican Party has actually

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Speaker 10: used this same outfit before spend one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 10: getting other polls done. So one, I do think his

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Speaker 10: message is resonating. There will be a challenge as we

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Speaker 10: head down the back stretch here though, can he reach

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Speaker 10: the number of voters that he's going to need to

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Speaker 10: reach in order to win that election? And the Republican Party,

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Speaker 10: the State Central Committee decided to endorse Robert Sprague, his opponent,

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Speaker 10: so that will give him the indiceha, that will give

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Speaker 10: him some financial breathing room, if you will. Plus he

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Speaker 10: will probably have the donor class behind him. So down

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Speaker 10: the stretch it's going to be about can Marcel get

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Speaker 10: in front of enough voters and can he overcome the

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Speaker 10: millions and millions and that we'll see from Robert Sprague.

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Speaker 1: Well a Ford part company and end this break and

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Speaker 1: move on to a different topic. I guess I'm just

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Speaker 1: kind of curious to know, and I think I know

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Speaker 1: your reaction. A lot of my listeners and you guess

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Speaker 1: you can count me among them, little upset with the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party making endorsements in advance of the primary before

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Speaker 1: the actual Republican voters have to have a say have

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Speaker 1: had a say in the matter.

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Speaker 10: Jack, Yeah, So that is a very, very controversial topic,

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Speaker 10: and it really came to a head if you remember

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Speaker 10: back when Governor Mike DeWine was endorsed by the party

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Speaker 10: and there was a contested gubernatorial primary. But what ended

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Speaker 10: up being interesting is now you have another governor's race

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Speaker 10: four years later, and some of the same people who

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Speaker 10: when DeWine was endorsed early came out and said, well, listen,

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Speaker 10: Traditionally I wouldn't support endorsing in a race, but because

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Speaker 10: Governor Mike DeWine is going to try to pull all

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Speaker 10: the levers possible to get someone like Lieutenant Governor Jim

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Speaker 10: Tressel to be the party's endorsed candidate, we've got to

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Speaker 10: go ahead and get out of the gate early, get

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Speaker 10: the Vake Ramaswami to be the guy that we endorse y.

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Speaker 10: And so that was a real interesting about face. And

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Speaker 10: then of course that has continued on down the ticket,

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Speaker 10: and I think that will benefit Marcel Sturbich's opponent in

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Speaker 10: this race.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right on that one. And while

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Speaker 1: I didn't have and my listeners may call me out

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Speaker 1: on being hypocritical on this, I didn't say anything about

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party's endorsement or vi vike Ramas on me

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Speaker 1: just because I think Vivek is the candidate and I

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Speaker 1: really want him. But the same arguments to apply. I

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Speaker 1: think if we had they had let us just approach

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Speaker 1: the primary on the gubernatorial candidate, vivig Ramaswami would have

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Speaker 1: run anyway, and that's where we would be and there

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be this controversy. It's like the nuclear option Jack.

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Speaker 1: Once you get rid of the sixty vote threshold and

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Speaker 1: you go down to fifty, it's over with and it's done.

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Speaker 1: So I think we're going to see this trend continue

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Speaker 1: down the road.

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Speaker 10: It's unfortunate, and I think we are. And the challenge

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Speaker 10: is many times it's hard for people to do all

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Speaker 10: of their homework in advance, and it's actually the primary

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Speaker 10: election that brings their attention to the point that they

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Speaker 10: need to do the researches. And if you have the

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Speaker 10: part already putting the thumb on the scale before that,

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Speaker 10: maybe sometimes you're not getting the best candidate or the

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Speaker 10: candidate that people genuinely want, and.

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Speaker 1: It reduces the likelihood that they will agree to a debate,

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Speaker 1: which I think benefits everybody.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 10: I would absolutely agree with that, and that's been one

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Speaker 10: of my areas of frustration with Robert Sprague. He seems

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Speaker 10: to not want to debate now, and he's actually like

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Speaker 10: he has with you. He has gone radio silent with me,

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Speaker 10: and his campaign staff will not return phone calls, and

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Speaker 10: I'm begging him to come on my show and answer

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Speaker 10: some hard questions.

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Speaker 1: Well, continue with me this morning. Energy policy. We're going

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Speaker 1: to continue with Jack Wins when we get back Ohio

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Speaker 1: Senators and Trump discussing energy rates, regarding building new data centers,

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Speaker 1: Bring your own power more with.

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Speaker 2: The Deep Talk Station.

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Speaker 1: Hey forty one to fifty five case The talk station

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Speaker 1: a worthy site to book. Marjorie ohiopressnetwork dot com. Jack

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Speaker 1: Windsor's side Jackson the program Every Friday, yere on the

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Speaker 1: fifty five krssee Morning show. Bring us up to speed.

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Speaker 1: And I understand that Trump and well, John Houston, Bernie

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Speaker 1: Moreno had a whole bunch of other folks, so are

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Speaker 1: doing a roundtable in terms of well artificial intelligence, it's

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Speaker 1: a boom. We're all dealing with it, but we're all

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Speaker 1: worried about that it's going to make our electricity bills

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Speaker 1: go up through the sky. And that seems to be

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Speaker 1: going in that direction, Jack Windsor, I know there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of proposal about AI bringing their own power

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Speaker 1: with them. I had a conversation with Bring them account

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Speaker 1: from the Hudson Institute about small modular reactors and that

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Speaker 1: may be a thing they can bring with them. Very

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Speaker 1: expensive they are. But what does this all mean to us,

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great question.

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Speaker 10: So President Donald Trump is serious about the United States

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Speaker 10: continuing to lead on AI, particularly with China, the country

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Speaker 10: that is competing with us primarily, and he wanted to

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Speaker 10: address this concern that we all have, which is if

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Speaker 10: we build all of these data centers and these data

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Speaker 10: centers become a suck on our power supply, then what

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Speaker 10: does that do to our electric bills?

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Speaker 3: So he worked with some key.

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Speaker 10: Companies Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, Open Ai, and Xai

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Speaker 10: and they signed a non binding agreement and they committed

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Speaker 10: to five things. One was to secure their own electric

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Speaker 10: tricity supplies for data centers, to invest in new power

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Speaker 10: generation resources. Three, fund transmission upgrades for negotiate separate rate

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Speaker 10: structures with utilities in five enhance grid resilience to handle

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Speaker 10: increased demands. And it's also noteworthy, as you mentioned, Senators

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Speaker 10: Bernie Marino and John Housted were in attendance and praised

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Speaker 10: this commitment. But also we're alongside META when they announced

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Speaker 10: a new workforce training program in Ohio to support AI

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Speaker 10: related jobs, which of course aligns with the pledges focus

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Speaker 10: on economic growth, particularly using local workers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know some people are against the

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Speaker 1: whole concept of AI in their backyard, going back to

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Speaker 1: the NIMBI thing, it's a foregone conclusion these are coming.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if it was a let's say, a multiplex,

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Speaker 1: giant Walmart, Giant Kroger, giant whatever, taking up the same

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Speaker 1: square footage of land, would people be against it as

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Speaker 1: much as they are with the AI facilities, considering the

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Speaker 1: amount of revenue by way of tax dollars they presumably

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Speaker 1: will bring in any given community. It's the power, really

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Speaker 1: is the problem for most people, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: It really is. It's the power.

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Speaker 10: And I think there's still this nebulous, conspiratorial thinking, and

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Speaker 10: I don't. By the way, I don't use the word

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Speaker 10: conspiratorial the way that some people on the left do.

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Speaker 10: There is just this belief that there's some conspiring and

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Speaker 10: hiding some information about surveillance and all those things, and

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Speaker 10: so there are some of those concerns.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it does come down to power.

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Speaker 10: But I like to point out, and I know that

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Speaker 10: you've had Donovan O'Neil with Americans for Prosperity on your

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Speaker 10: show before. Oh sure, but AFP's been really on the

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Speaker 10: bleeding edge with some of this. And when you look

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Speaker 10: at those five points that Trump is really working hard

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Speaker 10: to make sure these tech giants adhere to Ohio really

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Speaker 10: is pretty far down the path. If you remember, House

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Speaker 10: Bill fifteen became effective in August of last year. It

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Speaker 10: really deals with a lot of that behind the meter,

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Speaker 10: self generation and microgrids, So Ohio is really kind of

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Speaker 10: suited up and ready for these companies to do that here.

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Speaker 10: And then of course, the separate rate structures and cost

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Speaker 10: allocation and Public Utilities Commission of Ohio did approve some

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Speaker 10: data center specific tariff language for AFP AEP. Now that

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Speaker 10: needs to be blanketed, I think, and applied to all

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Speaker 10: of these power companies. But there are incentives for new

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Speaker 10: generation transmission under House Bill fifteen and the grid resilience

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Speaker 10: enhancements that's kind of baked into House Bill fifteen, and

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Speaker 10: some of this stuff that the Public Utilities Commission of

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Speaker 10: Ohio is doing. But overall, I think Ohio's framework is

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Speaker 10: already well equipped for these non binding pledges. It will

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Speaker 10: be now then incumbent upon the lawmakers in the General

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Speaker 10: Assembly to take it the extra mile to make sure

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Speaker 10: that Ohio is in a position that when these companies

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Speaker 10: want to do the things that they've committed to do,

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Speaker 10: that they're legally able to.

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Speaker 1: Do them, legally able to do them. There's that pesky

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Speaker 1: legal impediment, self imposed, self inflicted wound. Usually Jack windsor

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Speaker 1: it take forty five. We'll bring Jack back to talk

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Speaker 1: about whistleblowers. Are they being punished for exposing waste and fraud?

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Speaker 2: God?

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Speaker 1: I hope not, but something suggests on the topic that yeah,

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Speaker 1: they are more With Jack windsor don't go away fifty five.

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Speaker 2: You're a c deep talk station.

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Speaker 1: Eight if you have KRC detalk station Friday, Jack windsor

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Speaker 1: the Ohio Press Network. Wait a minute, Jack Fraud wasted abuse.

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Speaker 1: We all need to go after it because this does

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Speaker 1: not bear a political stripe. If someone is stealing taxpayer dollars,

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Speaker 1: they're stealing liberal tax payer dollars, conservative tax payer dollars,

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Speaker 1: politically neutral Switzerland type political politically leading folks. Everybody is

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Speaker 1: suffering on this. There should be no fraud wasted abuse.

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Speaker 1: There should be a fiduciary obligation owed by people in

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Speaker 1: government to mind the store and prevent it from happening. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is a wonderful illustration of them not only being

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Speaker 1: aware of fraud wasted abuse, almost actively encouraging it, claiming,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, if I say something, I'll be accused

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Speaker 1: of racism. Oh blow it out or you know what,

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Speaker 1: that is a nonsensical argument. If you're stealing, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what color skin you've got, you are, which is

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Speaker 1: a pox on everyone with that in mind. Whistle blowers, Jack,

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Speaker 1: what's this what all about?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: First of all, preach, Brian, Preach.

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Speaker 10: Second of all, just another bombshell report from the Committee

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Speaker 10: on Oversight and Government Reform. It dropped earlier this week,

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Speaker 10: and what we now know is that based on the

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Speaker 10: testimony of nine current and former state officials in Minnesota

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Speaker 10: that Governor Tim Walls and his administration not only knew

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Speaker 10: that fraud was occurring, they did nothing about it. And

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Speaker 10: then what you just said, they went the extra mile

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Speaker 10: and actually sought to punish the whistleblowers. Now, there are

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Speaker 10: six different types of allegations. I'll run quickly through those. First,

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Speaker 10: whistleblowers alleged that millions were spent on surveilling employees who

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Speaker 10: raised fraud concerns. So not only were they letting money

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Speaker 10: seep out the hole in the bucket, they were taking

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Speaker 10: what money was left over to actually try to surveil

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Speaker 10: the people who.

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Speaker 3: Were blowing the whistle. Disgusting.

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Speaker 10: Whistleblowers also claimed that private investigators or law firms were

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Speaker 10: hired to silence them. Dozens of whistleblowers reported being told

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Speaker 10: to not speak about the fraud, and as you just

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Speaker 10: pointed out, they would be accused of being racist, islamophobic, xenophobic.

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Speaker 10: Upper management conducted regular check ins or meetings with these

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Speaker 10: employees who reported concerns so that they felt big brothers

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Speaker 10: watching right over their shoulder. And then examples include of

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Speaker 10: job related threats and demotivation. Supervisors threatening to make a

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Speaker 10: whistleblower's life difficult, and then those supervisors later receiving a promotion.

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Speaker 10: So it was very clear that this was a culture

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Speaker 10: that rewarded turning a blind eye to fraud, and then

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Speaker 10: management showed disdain for groups of employees emailing fraud concerns

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Speaker 10: to leadership, including the governor's chief of staff, and broader

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Speaker 10: findings note a fear of political retribution. So again these

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Speaker 10: are not just pie in the sky, you know, pulled

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Speaker 10: out of the ether. These are based on the testimony

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Speaker 10: of nine current and former states officials there in the

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Speaker 10: North Star state, so that not only is their waste,

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Speaker 10: fraud and abuse, now they're punishing the good guys that

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Speaker 10: are actually trying to stand up for the taxpayer.

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Speaker 1: Well throughout this process. And you know, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the reporting on this Minnesota thing, and I thought

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Speaker 1: Imprimus did a fabulous job and I can't post it

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Speaker 1: on my blog page. They through the whole thing. But

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Speaker 1: the author pointed out the history of the investigation of

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Speaker 1: these leering centers and these various other programs, and that

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Speaker 1: there was local reporting on it going way back, pointing

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Speaker 1: out the fraud, waste, and abuse. I mean, this was

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Speaker 1: widely known. This was just this wasn't flying under the radar.

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Speaker 1: This was kind of going on on and on and on,

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Speaker 1: and considering the reasons as you just boiled down and

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Speaker 1: articulated these threats of you know, accusing people of xenophobia

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Speaker 1: or whatever, which I find, you know, threaten me with that,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna laugh at you. Where are the spine with

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Speaker 1: these people? But I think you've revealed some perhaps broader

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Speaker 1: problem that's going on with our pretty much anybody in

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Speaker 1: elected capacity, they're all being threatened along these lines. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have an organized campaign, We're gonna boycott you, We're

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02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,480
Speaker 1: gonna accuse you endlessly of being a racist and homophobe.

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Speaker 1: And as Nivo and you wonder why our politicians do things,

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Speaker 1: maybe they got the goods on behind the scenes, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know where you search on the internet, we got

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Speaker 1: pictures of you or whatever. This kind of extortion thing

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Speaker 1: without people in those positions having spines willing to stand

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Speaker 1: up to and going no, no, I'm not a racist.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at people ripping us off. It seems

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Speaker 1: like a simple response, Jack.

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Speaker 3: It really does.

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Speaker 10: It really does. And by the way, I will remind

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Speaker 10: your listeners. And I'm sure that this is gonna make

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Speaker 10: some people mad, but I don't care. Our governor is

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Speaker 10: a governor who stood up when the beginning of discovery

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Speaker 10: has happened here in Ohio and said, well, you know,

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Speaker 10: the Somali people are good people, and they contribute to

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Speaker 10: our local businesses and regional businesses, and listen, this is

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Speaker 10: not a critique of the Somali people, but it would be.

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Speaker 10: It's stupid for the governor to say things like that

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Speaker 10: when you can look at the numbers and recognize that

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Speaker 10: seventy percent, somewhere between fifty eight and seventy percent get Medicaid,

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Speaker 10: they get snap benefits, and they get other welfare benefits,

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Speaker 10: and so I go, okay, if they are contributing members

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Speaker 10: of society, why are their rates for public assistance exponentially higher?

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Speaker 10: And again it goes back to this guilty shaming and blaming.

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Speaker 10: We are never going to get it right if every

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Speaker 10: time that we step out or put our necks out

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Speaker 10: and say, look, this is something going wrong here, that

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Speaker 10: we cowtail when somebody says, well, you're racist or you're xenophobic,

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Speaker 10: And when you have a governor of the state of

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Speaker 10: Ohio really role modeling that it doesn't take long to

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Speaker 10: figure out why we have millions and probably billions of

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Speaker 10: dollars a fraud here in this state as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the point I've been making, never paying with

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Speaker 1: the broad brush. I'm sure there are some within the

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Speaker 1: smaller community that are contributing, and they are paying taxes,

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Speaker 1: and they are great mom and dads, and they have

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Speaker 1: family life whatever. Not all of them follow to that

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Speaker 1: category much in the same way. Some of them are

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Speaker 1: ripping us all up. That is not me saying all

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Speaker 1: Somalians are thieves. You're painting with a broad brush. By

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Speaker 1: accusing me of that, you are basically being the racist.

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Speaker 1: Come on, just because you're within some given category of

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Speaker 1: people the whole, doesn't mean there's not a subset of

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Speaker 1: people who might fall out of that collective and say, no,

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Speaker 1: those are nefarious. The subset of the Smalling community are nefarious.

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Speaker 1: A subset of the Smalling community are great people. Let's

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Speaker 1: go after the nefarious. Let's keep this whole race thing

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Speaker 1: out of it and save ourselves the taxpayer dollars that

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Speaker 1: are being ripped off.

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Speaker 3: Amen.

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Speaker 10: And this is what concerns me, and we can talk

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Speaker 10: about it with any topic. Now, there is this movement

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Speaker 10: within the middle of the road to the right. I

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Speaker 10: call it the woke right now. And you look at

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Speaker 10: what the left has done for the past four or

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Speaker 10: five decades. They've become masterful at identity politics, and if

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Speaker 10: you go against the narrative, then they put a label

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02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:51,960
Speaker 10: on you racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, whatever. Well, when the right

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Speaker 10: starts doing those same things, we are going so far

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Speaker 10: away from the fourteenth Amendment, which says that we should

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Speaker 10: be applying the law equally to every buddy and everyone

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02:12:00,720 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 10: should get an equal remedy. If we start down that road,

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Speaker 10: I'm afraid we're not going to come back. So shame

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Speaker 10: on Governor Mike Dwine and other Republicans who fall into

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Speaker 10: that trap.

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Speaker 1: Amen, underscore and I share your criticism the ohiopressnetwork dot com. Fine, Jack,

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Speaker 1: bookmark the site.

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Speaker 8: Jack.

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Speaker 1: We'll do this next Friday. I have a wonderful weekend

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Speaker 1: and a great week my friend, you too. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for six fifty five cares to de Talk Station Tech

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Speaker 1: Friday with Dave hat Or Brian