WEBVTT - Let's Garden with Scott Beuerlein 8/01/2026 Hour 2

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back. You're listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with Sarah Geiger Beam from Wimberg Landscaping and

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<v Speaker 1>with Jim Hansel from UC and what is it? Great Oaks,

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<v Speaker 1>Great Oaks Yep, yep, Great Oaks for Existance yep. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Joe Boggs joining us in about an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always fun. I don't know what he plans to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, it doesn't matter, it will It'll be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be awesome. Do you want to remind you our

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<v Speaker 1>number eight hundred eight two three eighty two fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>give us a call. We're talking favorite plants right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take your call about favorite plants or any questions

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<v Speaker 1>you might have about the garden. Eight hundred eight two

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<v Speaker 1>Jim or I was going to bring up something here,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get it back here. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your your last plant, which you saw at the peted

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<v Speaker 1>out off Udolph Garden in Detroit, and three of my

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<v Speaker 1>plants came from that that visit as well. One is

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<v Speaker 1>an old one never I don't think popular, but such

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<v Speaker 1>a good, cool plant, Econops ritro. I think it's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, yeah, glow, yeah, great plant. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a thistle. It's an economics but it has this

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<v Speaker 1>round of flower head, pretty blue flowers, and you grow

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<v Speaker 1>a cultivar.

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<v Speaker 2>I've grown platinum blue and this year I'm also growing

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<v Speaker 2>a white one, maybe Arctic snow or Arctic white. I

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<v Speaker 2>got them seeds from Gilido and man, you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>an easy seed to start. It germinates in just two

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<v Speaker 2>days or something. It grows easily in a plug tray

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<v Speaker 2>or in a pot. It was just bulletproof and the

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<v Speaker 2>landscape for the most partators came back after the first

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<v Speaker 2>winter with extended snowpack, and I mean it just has

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<v Speaker 2>performed like a champ. And it's that really pure blue

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<v Speaker 2>color that is difficult to get and the shape of

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<v Speaker 2>the flower. They're like these little lollipops that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stick up out over everything and it blends well with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an easy grower and the foliage kind of has

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a blue cast to it, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a silvery and a little it's not spiny,

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<v Speaker 1>but it kay of looks a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The they call it globe thistle because the leaves do

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<v Speaker 2>look a bit like a thistle, which is not selling it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is a courser look. It's not a super.

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<v Speaker 1>Tidy great to mix with finer it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is great to mix. I made the mistake. I

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<v Speaker 2>put it kind of as a block planting, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have I wouldn't do that again if I was

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<v Speaker 2>redesigning that, I would have put something finer textured kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in between and used it a bit more sparingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. Also from the Udolph Garden Detroit, I saw again

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<v Speaker 1>in a favorite from a long time, for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>Stokesia Peache's Peache's pick, I think is the cultivar and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's sort of a bad name because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>peachy but more a solid blue. But the woman who

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<v Speaker 1>discovered the plant was named peachy. Oh okay, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why the head fake on the color. Got it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the last one was an alium that I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen before Alium carrulatam pulchellum, which apparently is pretty fairly

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<v Speaker 1>available as a ball in the marketplace. It's called blue

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<v Speaker 1>globe onion and it's about the height of millennium less

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<v Speaker 1>and knee high. And the normally with an alium you

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<v Speaker 1>get that round flower head. This has I think it

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<v Speaker 1>starts with sort of a round, little fireworky kind of

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<v Speaker 1>upward little and then the little filaments or whatever holds

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<v Speaker 1>they all sort of start to droop, so you get

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<v Speaker 1>a really beautiful cascading look to the flower. And the

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<v Speaker 1>word on the street was it seeds around a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but not too bad in the way that you would

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<v Speaker 1>like it too in a naturalistic garden. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>those were my three standouts from the visit. That and

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<v Speaker 1>just a reminder, you know, it's so so educational and

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<v Speaker 1>inspirational to go to these gardens that these public gardens

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<v Speaker 1>can go and check out the plants, see what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Pete out of and is certainly one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best at having a wide palette of plants, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>and by going to look at his gardens and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a high line in the lurry and a few others

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. Uh, you can learn so many more

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<v Speaker 1>plants that that you that are fascinating plants. Yeah, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have next?

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<v Speaker 4>I got a kind of cool plant given to me

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<v Speaker 4>a few weeks ago by our friend Ben Necessary. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Cali Canthus Burgundy spice yes red foliage Cali Canthus. It's

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<v Speaker 4>really really cool. When the new foliage comes out, it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like a greenish burgundy with like silvery feel,

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<v Speaker 4>and then as the leaves age they get really dark burgundy.

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<v Speaker 4>The first year in the garden, see what it does.

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<v Speaker 4>He asked me to try it form and report back

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<v Speaker 4>on how it performs, and so far it's it's really

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<v Speaker 4>really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That came out about at least five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't really gotten in the trade too much yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but once it does, I mean it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid like aphrodite is I think so heartlage wine,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I have a really good vigor probably, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope so size. So far it's held up.

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<v Speaker 4>I've only had it in the ground for maybe six

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<v Speaker 4>or eight weeks, but it looks good. It's not a

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<v Speaker 4>water hog.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I can never remember the common spicewu sweet trub.

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<v Speaker 1>And the flowers are very primitive looking. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>magnolia like, yes, and I think it did flower.

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<v Speaker 4>The flowers get lost in the foliage though, okay on

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<v Speaker 4>this one, just because the flower color is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>in the same color family as the foliage. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>growing up for a folish play. I've got it planted

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<v Speaker 4>right next to a U. I know I shouldn't like us,

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<v Speaker 4>but I love us. I've got one called Wan Tong gold.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a gold leaf you. And I've got that next

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<v Speaker 4>to that gold leaf you. And it's really nice. So

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm doing now is I'm trying to work in

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<v Speaker 4>some purple dark foliage plants throughout my garden. So I

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<v Speaker 4>have that sort of a theme that runs throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Yeah, very cool. Yeah, and you, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you have a stunning garden. A little later on,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll have time to talk about that. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a small garden, which is you know, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger garden and I have small garden envy. Yeah, I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You can make it so perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to have big garden ivy, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>tend a pretty big garden to Anderson, and it's like

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<v Speaker 4>as you get older, it's like, I think the small

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<v Speaker 4>garden sounds pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're some pros to a small garden.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be more disciplined. You can't keep adding plants.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. But the plants you can put in can

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<v Speaker 1>be the very best, and you can play with it

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<v Speaker 1>make it perfect. Ye, Sarah, do you have another plant?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Stacis white whisper was at Walters. I missed that and

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<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't even in flower. It was past flower,

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<v Speaker 2>but the seed heads had a greenish sort of cast

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<v Speaker 2>and the texture was wonderful, So the flowering would be

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<v Speaker 2>a bonus. And it's a white flowering stackus. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a hamelo, which is a purple flowering variety that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty widely available.

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<v Speaker 1>Scuses s T. A. C. H. Y s.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one you would know in the garden centers

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<v Speaker 1>is lambs.

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<v Speaker 2>Laser Lambser, but this doesn't really like a Lambsier, even

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<v Speaker 2>though it's in the same Geese.

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<v Speaker 1>They may know the common name for that one. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Betany, thank you, yeah, thank you. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>a white betany and the seed the seedheads are what caught.

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<v Speaker 1>My eye, which is a typical really yeahl does.

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<v Speaker 2>Not have seedheads that are going to turn. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not offensive, they're fine, but I wouldn't call them ornamental.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one was really nice. And and Betany is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a nice tidy plant that the seedheads and

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<v Speaker 2>the flowers are extremely upright. So there's just really good

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<v Speaker 2>texture going on. And in the display beds at Walter's Gardens,

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<v Speaker 2>they had it next to a Ucomia purple rain, just

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<v Speaker 2>big bold foliage that really set up off those seed

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<v Speaker 2>heads because you had the contrasting backdrop so they almost glowed.

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<v Speaker 2>And behind that they had pardon me, big bluestem Niagara Falls,

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<v Speaker 2>and those three plants together there was just such a

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<v Speaker 2>nice composition.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of nice composition, so many, so

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<v Speaker 1>many ball and there were a couple of private gardens

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<v Speaker 1>we went to that were just amazing as well. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite plants in the whole wide world

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<v Speaker 1>is an annual grass Melinis Nerva gloomis ruby grass. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they just ruby grass and it has this beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>fine textured foliage with a bluish cast, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the most floriferous annual. It comes in a

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<v Speaker 1>little later, but the flowers, the grass flowers just come

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<v Speaker 1>in a rich ruby color and gradually fade out to pink.

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<v Speaker 1>But as they do so, they also changed texture from

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<v Speaker 1>more of a very fine but defined flower and then

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly it just fluffs out and it's so so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I saw that Ball had a white version,

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<v Speaker 1>first I had an a version because why would you

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<v Speaker 1>want a white But then you know, you start looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it closer, and the white flowers were good on

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<v Speaker 1>their own. They were really nice. They had that soft,

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<v Speaker 1>fluffy texture that later in the season. But they had

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<v Speaker 1>it planted with verbina dot bone Aiance is the tall verbena,

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<v Speaker 1>and what a combination that was. It was stunny, breathtaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of my favorite plants at Ball yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>The grass was stunning. I saw it from across the

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<v Speaker 2>field and was like, oh my god, what is it

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<v Speaker 2>over there?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and works really well in naturalistic compositions, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it is an annual. They had this bed that was

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<v Speaker 2>it really really looked like one of those pollinator gardens,

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<v Speaker 2>just dreamy and the textures and the flows and the colors,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was with all Was it all annuals? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was all annuals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well back in the back of the bed, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they had some other things, but right where it

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<v Speaker 1>was was all annuals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great combination.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and with pretty traditional landscape plants. They had a

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<v Speaker 2>yellow toned marrigold, there was a seed variety verbina. I

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<v Speaker 2>forget what else they had in that bed, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Another grass of some kind of darker grass.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they had that upatorium elegant feather, which was

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<v Speaker 2>new to me, and ubitorium.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that one. We'll come back and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that because it was an exceptional plant that's worth

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And then we'll also get into some timely

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<v Speaker 1>task things you should have done last week, especially Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>and I who were all were gone most of last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a long list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you are listening to that garden with Scott Berline.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned, we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 3>Where with Bridget whose husband won't be home for months

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Backstaberline here with let's garden with Scott Berlin. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>my pleasure, A lot of fun, a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. So we were just going to wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>with our favorite plants right now with the upitorium you

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<v Speaker 1>brought up and you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been yeah, yeah, I was looking it up and I

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<v Speaker 2>was surprised to find that it's native. Well, I was

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<v Speaker 2>most surprised to find that it's a upatorium. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like a joe pie weed or you know, bone

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<v Speaker 2>set or anything like that. It looks like a tamarisk.

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<v Speaker 2>It has this very feathery kind of foliage and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very upright. We saw it in containers, we saw it

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<v Speaker 2>in the landscape. It just looks stunning everywhere you put it.

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<v Speaker 2>As a designer, I'm always looking for that height element

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<v Speaker 2>to contrast with what's going on below. And it catches

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<v Speaker 2>the wind like a grass. I don't know what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of flower it makes, if any, but it doesn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to because it has that incredible texture.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just going to add a look that nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else has as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, it was very new and oh I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Use this, Yeah, I want to. I think it's actually.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hardy six through nine. And the common name for

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<v Speaker 2>the species is dog fennel. And apparently it's a it

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<v Speaker 2>can be kind of weedy. It's it's native, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a whaedy native. But this, this cultivar was

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<v Speaker 2>bred to be sterile, and so you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>better about that in a garden, even native plants, if

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<v Speaker 2>they're extremely weedy, I don't necessarily gardening hard put exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You can do it, but you're creating a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>work for yourself. So ye, so I'll look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>growing that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this isn't really a plant a favorite plant

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's probably a favorite plant for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a cultivate last week actually, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a big trade show for the green industry and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of new plant introductions go on. And Terra Nova,

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<v Speaker 1>which has put out a bunch of Achinaesia and especially

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<v Speaker 1>coral bells over the years, so maybe the most important

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<v Speaker 1>introducer of all the colorful coral bells, has a new line.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is absolutely amazing. It's it's very very different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called uh shoot, what was it? Firewing, fire Wing,

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<v Speaker 1>f y R E wing series of coral bells and

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<v Speaker 1>uh it yeah, it just you look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, is that a corobell? Oh? Yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a corbel. Its recognizable as a coral bell, but the

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<v Speaker 1>leaf is completely different. It looks like a filigree, like

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<v Speaker 1>a really fine Japanese mate.

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<v Speaker 2>If you didn't know that they were doing this line,

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<v Speaker 2>you could mistake it for not a coral bell, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would confuse you. You know, it has all the

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<v Speaker 2>good things about the coral bells, but a totally different shape,

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<v Speaker 2>a totally different texture. Kind of the way the leaves overlap.

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<v Speaker 2>You guess the roughly and you know it's dissected. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the coral bells. Do you have a ruffle on

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<v Speaker 2>the edge, but they're pretty much you know that that

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<v Speaker 2>circular shape and this is a feathery they they're marketing

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<v Speaker 2>as these look like little dragon wings, and they really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at a pr or press release here from

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<v Speaker 1>Terra Nova and they put this out for the Cultivate Show.

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<v Speaker 1>They described it as featuring deeply cut dragon inspired foliage

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<v Speaker 1>and seven gemstone themed colors. The collection is the result

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<v Speaker 1>of five years of intensive breeding and already being rolled

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<v Speaker 1>out to tissue culture laboratories worldwide. And I'm being told

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<v Speaker 1>that they're selling everything they can produce, so now now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And they said it started with an unexpected discovery rather

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<v Speaker 1>than a planned breeding objective about five years ago, found

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<v Speaker 1>a mutation. Listen to what they had to do. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a no viable pollen from the flower or a

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<v Speaker 1>functioning ovary. So they made it tetraploid. This is getting

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<v Speaker 1>very technical. And then worked with embryos. You see embryos

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<v Speaker 1>in everything. They get this out through the market or

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<v Speaker 1>through the process, and in five years they went from

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<v Speaker 1>that one FI to a series of what was it

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight different plants, seven different plants. And you got

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<v Speaker 1>to look at these online. Look at fire wing Hyukra.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really different, really cool And why are e f

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<v Speaker 1>y are you? And it may not who knows how

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<v Speaker 1>good it grows in the ground. We'll find out. You're

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, welcome back. You are listening to Let's Garden Scott Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with Jim Hansel. And Sarah Geiger Beam and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking plants and all kinds of other things and

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<v Speaker 1>having a good time. I hope everybody else is as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We will take your calls again. Eight hundred eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>three eighty two fifty five. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite plant. You want to talk about a favorite task,

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<v Speaker 1>some insight you have or ask a question. Eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eight two three eight two fifty five. We are now

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<v Speaker 1>at things we should have done last week TSK things

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get on and Jim you had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest thing I need to get on and hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>do that in between the showers this weekend is just weeding.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like to use I'm not anti chemical, but

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<v Speaker 4>I like to avoid using herbicides in my garden.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't around again, you know, it's part of our industry,

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<v Speaker 4>it's part of what we have to do. But personally,

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<v Speaker 4>if I can avoid that in my own garden, I

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<v Speaker 4>will just getting out and weeding, you know, getting those

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<v Speaker 4>weeds pulled before they flower. So that's the biggest thing,

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<v Speaker 4>is understanding the biology of when to pull them.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little hand ho Yeah, it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>if like a trousized little hoe and I you can

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<v Speaker 1>make some good You can, yeah, progress with your weeds.

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<v Speaker 1>You say nothing, You just get on your knees and

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<v Speaker 1>start wandering around the garden and just how those things up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really makes it different. I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta stir up poe for those things I can't reach,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I don't want to get under that.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a really pretty aralia cordatta sun king, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get underneath that thing. I could

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<v Speaker 4>just take that yep, that stirrup hoe and just cut

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<v Speaker 4>everything off.

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<v Speaker 1>Both those tools are really good for getting in and

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<v Speaker 1>around other plants. Sarah, do you have anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, there's so much I should have done

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<v Speaker 2>last week but did not do because I was not

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<v Speaker 2>there for it. But things are growing like crazy right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I came back and my bananas are ten inches taller.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, of course, the weeds are ten inches taller.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I'll be honest. I failed my tomatoes

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I really can get away from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have thinned them out, and I have never well.

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<v Speaker 2>I have used tomato cages, but not in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and not for these varieties that are just monsters and

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<v Speaker 2>they they're getting all kinds of you know, leaf symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just falling apart. So, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important that home gardeners know that even professional horticulturists,

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<v Speaker 2>even as we're succeeding, we're always failing. Also, yeah, you're yourself.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just so many different plants and every season is different,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, we have we have setbacks, just

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels like a good time to remind everybody that you're

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<v Speaker 1>a lead associate. You've got an OGI, a master.

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<v Speaker 2>Certification, patos for twenty five years, and I knew better,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet you know, I just have.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many hours in a day.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so much garden to take care of. I

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<v Speaker 2>have an acre, I have a nursery, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>me as the caretaker also full time job and two

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<v Speaker 2>children and everything. But but right now, I'm I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>really hit by the how fast things are growing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my snake being because.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had consistent rain, it's been high, but with lower

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<v Speaker 1>night temperatures it's been yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so just getting those weeds out before they flower

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<v Speaker 2>super important. Staying on top of things that are growing

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<v Speaker 2>super fast, and you know, the things that will become

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<v Speaker 2>a problem in a month. Now, just knock them back.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the stirrup po I have a colinear hoe

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of similar, which is good for knocking

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<v Speaker 2>down the smaller weeds. And I was a Peace Corps

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<v Speaker 2>volunteer in Paraguay. The machete is the Paraguay and Army

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<v Speaker 2>knife of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And the mother with two small children, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're kind of make fun of me, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>a deep love for a machete. And I before I left,

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<v Speaker 2>I walked around and you know, where the Canada golden

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<v Speaker 2>rod was coming up, where the ragweed was coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have time to pull it, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>took this long handled machete that it goes. It's right

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<v Speaker 2>down to ground level. If I'm holding it at waste level,

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<v Speaker 2>and just if it's sharp, you just do a quick

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<v Speaker 2>little splash and that knocks it back. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's all you have time to do, that really

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<v Speaker 2>it does a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Usually by this time of year, our turf is

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<v Speaker 1>just dormant. Yeah, it's just you know, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. I don't want to keep watering my

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<v Speaker 1>turf now, so let it go brown and dormant and

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<v Speaker 1>just not worry about it for a little while. But

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been pretty consistent with rain, and I

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 1>was reminded the last few times that I've mowed it's

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the importance of sharpening your blade. Yes, it's getting to wear.

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>If I make a curve, half of it's been cut

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and the other half is still very tall, and that's frustrating.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I thought I hit that spot, you know,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 1>because I'm stupid, I forget what's happening and why is it.

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just there. I thought I was. I thought

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I was. I thought I was doing a great job.

0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not. And it's not my fault. What is

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>my fault because they haven't sharpened my blade.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>But sharp tools always.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And ironically they're always safer too, Yeah, for sure, working

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>less hard with them, less fatigue. Yeah, they're doing the.

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Job with the machete. Like people joke it's crazy dangerous,

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>but if you have a really short machete, you do

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>not need much force. It's really just kind of like

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 2>light easy. You use the motion of the blade. And

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I actually this is going to sound crazy. I think

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a decent tool for older people that don't want

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to bend down. If you get a machete that sized

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>to your height. I'm lucky in this because I'm shorter,

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>so I'm closer to the ground. I don't need a

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>crazy long machete.

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>You know it works if you don't have to use

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of muscle.

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know that's the thing with every great tool,

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and a great reminder that when when you're using a tool,

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>let the tool do the work. Let the tool. You're

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>chainsawing a branch, you know, in psychic motion you can

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>push and push and push. It doesn't work any better

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>than if you just the chainsaw make the cut. Right.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Along with that, I have another one where to go wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Mouse Oh, a job that we shouldn't be doing right now.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>So a job we should have done a few weeks

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>ago maybe and should not do anymore this summer, And

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that is fertilizing most things. Anyway. You might want to

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>still continue fertilizing containers, maybe some vegetables and things like that,

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but anything perennial or especially woody plants not a great

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>idea because you're going to do what you're going to

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>push new growth growth and go into fall or winter

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>with that unhardened off tissue and it could be damaged

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or severely damaged. So you don't want to be throwing

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of fertilizer out. I might want to be

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>very careful about what you.

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Do for a living, and especially if we get our

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>typical late season droughts, if you're pushing a whole lot

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 2>of growth, that's just making it harder for the plant

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>to sustain and all of that growth with the roots

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>that it has, so you know, they want to kind

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>of slow down when things get hot and dry, and

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to override that by just dumping a

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>bunch of fertilizer on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, jim one more and then we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm going to kind of steal one that we

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 4>talked about during the break. It's time to start ordering bulbs.

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Time came up on as quick as it always does.

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>It always does.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this is a perfect time to get those

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 4>bulb catalogs out and start dreaming for February, March, and April.

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you can remember where they are, Yeah, it's

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a good time to go back and dig them up

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and bite them. You know what I'm gonna do next year.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I always say this, I am going to do this.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Order some marking flags and I'm going to write on

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 4>that flag what it is for the ones that I

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 4>need to move and just stick in the middle of

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 4>my clump of bulbs next year.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Colored golf teas are really great for that. You could

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>put the green in.

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<v Speaker 2>What a good idea?

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you can. You can't. I don't like

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>a flag because it shows too much or whatever. But

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it's going to get a green flag and write a

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>little name on it. We were looking at some flags

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>in the meadow at the Oudolph Garden and they were

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>there to mark some thing that was going to be done,

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was I was joking that, look how how

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>they precisely placed the flags that add just a perfect

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>color in each spot? Right, So but anyway, yeah, if

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you can, you know, mark them down. And you know

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I always mean to do it. But like when those

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>daffodils are there, take a picture, yes, make a reminder,

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>put it on the calendar to go and and dig

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>those up and move them around.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 4>I sketched my garden out on an iPad, so I

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 4>try to mark it on my iPad so I can

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 4>at least come back, and they're not there.

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, they're kind of in this area, so actually you

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>have one more.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. No not, You're good, Yeah, hanging, I'm going

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 2>to leave you.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, We'll go ahead and take a break,

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh, when we come back, we're going to talk

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>about a student of yours, Jim, and a friend of yours. Uh, Sarah, Sarah,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that's right, yeah, Sarah, And somebody I'm really fond of

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and have done an interview with for Horticulture magazine. Will

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>do that when we get back in just a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back. You're listening to Let's Guard with Scott Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>Our number is eight hundred eighty two three eighty two

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty five. I'm here with Sarah Geiger beIN landscape designer

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>with Wimberg Landscaping and Jim Hansel with Great Oaks and

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>adjunct professor of Horticulture at the University of Cincinnati. And

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>as such, I thought I saw somebody stole my idea.

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>So Trinity Toby is a friend of all overs, a

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>student of yours, and just a really impressive young lady

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>who got her degree in horticulture, but more importantly, with

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the help of you and Christone and other people in town.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:52.959
<v Speaker 1>And she's not afraid to ask for help. Now she's

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:58.399
<v Speaker 1>out there pushing her her future and she has got

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>She got a an internship at Chinicleer, which is one

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest gardens in the country last summer, I believe, yes,

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>last summer. Yeah. And then she came back worked at

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Spring Grove where you works era. Uh for just this

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>last yeah, good for her. She needed yeah, she needed

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>one more class actually and uh. And then she got

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a very prestigious internship at what is it Great Dicks

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>straight Dickster in England. But anyway, I got the chance

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to interview her for my horticulture magazine column last summer,

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think that was printed in Winter or Spring

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in the spring issue, but another publication picked it up. Shoot,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't say which one is. I'd like to give

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>credit to the publication, but anyway, Oh, it was Grower, Greenhouse, Grow,

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Greenhouse Grow. So they talked about her, you know, advancement

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>through all these internships. She's going to have a great career.

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean that resid Yeah.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>My goodness, and for someone that young too, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 4>So what was she like as a student, So her

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 4>story is kind of interesting. I remember she took a

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 4>class a couple of years ago, and I think maybe

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 4>three or four weeks in the class, she's like, I don't.

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Think this is for me, that's right. I remember this story.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I said, I said, well, what do you mean this

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't for you?

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 4>And she said, well, yeah, you guys are always talking

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Latin names and all this stuff that I have no

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 4>clue about. And I just told her, I said, look,

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 4>give me, give it three more weeks, three more weeks.

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 4>And during that three weeks, one of those classes we

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 4>actually went to a garden. So I got her out

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 4>in the garden and then she's like, well, this is

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 4>really cool. I said, well, why did you come back Saturday,

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 4>because I'm going to be working in the garden. And

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 4>I said, you know, you can get some get some

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 4>hands on. You know, horticulture's hands on. It's not as

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can act demically study horticulture that works.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 4>But I think the miracle happened. I divided some plants

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 4>in my garden and gave tour. We gave her some

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 4>other plants from their gardens, took them home. I think

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 4>she's from their Columbus area, and she planned with their

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 4>mom's garden and that was it. Yes, once you touch

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 4>the plant, once you get in the ground, and once

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 4>you nurture it and care for it, you're hooked.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>The bug bites. Yeah, and off off she went. And

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's just, uh, not only in this world, in

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>the green industry world and gardening, uh, but everywhere. It's

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>so important for young people to understand you don't be

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>afraid to go to older people, to the professionals and

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.959
<v Speaker 1>and talk to them and ask their advice and asked

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>what opportunities are out there? And uh, you know you

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>could the difference between the students, the young people who

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 1>are willing to do that and the ones who don't

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>do that is dramatic, very very dramatic.

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think those relationships are really critical to our

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>field uniquely because horticulture, gardening it's so much experience based.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>So the older you are as a gardener, you just

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>have more reps, you have more seasons, you have more

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>plants that you've grown and killed and you know figured

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 2>out how to grow them.

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're compiling this body of knowledge and you

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 1>know you're like I'm I've gardened forty years, I'm still

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>getting better, you know, and you want to share that knowledge.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>So when somebody younger or newer comes to you and says, hey,

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? I know myself and a lot

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of other people, most other gardeners and horticultures are more

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>than happy to jump in. They are.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I really think that's that is the difference

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>between people who you know, really advance in this field.

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>You have to find the mentors, and if you're not

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a student, you don't have to go to school for horticulture.

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to school for horticulture until after I

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 2>had many years of experience in the field.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>And like five or six other degrees.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have other degrees, but yeah, I didn't fully

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>commit to horticulture until I was in my thirties. I think,

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm second career. But if I had connected

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>with those people earlier on, you know, I, it would

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>have made a big difference.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, we do have a caller. I think

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I might know who this is, Karen and Anderson Township.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we can squeeze in and answer to Karen's question,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>what you've got Karen.

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 7>Hi Scott. Hi, good big show so far this morning.

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. It's all Jim and Sarah. Hi, Sarah, Karen, Hey, Karen, we.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 7>Have I have a new spot for some shrubs in

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 7>the shade of that big beach tree. I'm not frontyard,

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:08.439
<v Speaker 7>and uh they get sun til about noon and then

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 7>it's shade period, and uh, I need some evergreen shrubs

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 7>to put there.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Really have just a couple of minutes here, but I

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>my first impulse is, uh maybe dire villa m you know,

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough, scrappy plant. I don't know how evergreen,

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<v Speaker 1>not evergreen. No, I don't know of any evergreen options

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<v Speaker 1>except you know, boxwoods, and I just can't recommend them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be honest, Karen. In our particular region evergreen and deep shade,

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<v Speaker 2>dry shade. It's a it's a limited palette.

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<v Speaker 1>We were one zone further self.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, So the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most bulletproof options are going to be user boxwoods, boxwoods.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to treat now that we have the moth.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever low.

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<v Speaker 4>U that's that's been a good doer. Okay, Okay, stays

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<v Speaker 4>Low have pruned it. I know that I know Karen

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<v Speaker 4>and she's got deer galory. Yeah, mark that one off

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<v Speaker 4>the list, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They might not kill it, but they'll prune.

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<v Speaker 5>It for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think maybe maybe, yeah, going off the

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<v Speaker 1>wall a little bit, maybe hadconic clo of grass which

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<v Speaker 1>isn't evergreen, but it's it maintains it pretty look and

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay one for dry shades, So that might be

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<v Speaker 1>an option.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Japanese forest grass. Japanese forest grass con a medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the EPI mediums they're lower but low, some

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<v Speaker 1>are taller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they can take the root competition that your

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<v Speaker 2>beach will will give.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I I haven't seen your site, Karen, but uh,

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<v Speaker 2>a beach tree is a beautiful thing. The trunk is

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful thing, and you know, maybe just stick with

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<v Speaker 2>those low perennials that can handle that. It's so challenging

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<v Speaker 2>under you know, those big hardwood trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially beach them and the beaches in Maple. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>have this thick surface roots and just makes it so

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<v Speaker 1>hard and.

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<v Speaker 2>You see them in the wild and there's really not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot growing under the mature ones. If anything, some

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<v Speaker 2>herbaceous plant.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only thing I've seen really grow well.

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<v Speaker 1>Underneath is a bulb called Silla siberica, which isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>well under those, but it's just an ephemeral bulb that

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and it goes away. So a tough, tough,

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<v Speaker 1>tough site, but the beach is worth having. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, boy, we're gonna have some fun. Now, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Box joining us. We'll talk about what's happening out with

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<v Speaker 1>past diseases or whatever Joe wants to talk about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll enjoy that. Stay with us. You're listening to

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