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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Horn with my partner in Pal, Dave Lapham.
Speaker 2: We are live tonight at the MVP Sports Bar here
Speaker 2: in Silver ten. This looks like a great place to
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Speaker 2: a fun place to watch the Bengals beat the Steelers. Yes,
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, put it on. It is going to happen
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. At midnight, the Pittsburgh Steelers will be four
Speaker 2: and two. You heard it here? Yes, all right, we
Speaker 2: are going to be here for the next two hours.
Speaker 2: We have a very special guest who is with us
Speaker 2: here in the first hour of the show. Rather than
Speaker 2: simply introducing him, we're gonna turn the clock back. Ah
Speaker 2: playoff game from a few years ago. Bengals and Ravens
Speaker 2: game is tied the fourth quarter. Baltimore is inches away
Speaker 2: from taking the lead, but it didn't happen, thanks too.
Speaker 2: Arguably the greatest single play in Cincinnati Bengals history. Let's
Speaker 2: hear Hord and Lapham screaming our heads up. Third down
Speaker 2: in gold from the one hot sticks the ball out.
Speaker 2: Bengals have the ball.
Speaker 3: They are running it back Sam Hubbard with blockers behind him.
Speaker 2: Hubbard of the Ravens forty, the thirty, the twenty, the.
Speaker 4: Ten, the bum touchdown.
Speaker 3: Bengals Tyler Huddley tried to extend the ball over the
Speaker 3: goal line. It got poked away, Sam Hubbard scooped it
Speaker 3: up and ran the length of the field for a
Speaker 3: go ahead Bengals touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Oh that was awesome. That was awesome.
Speaker 2: Forget about the call. The play was the greatest play
Speaker 2: in franchise history. We're obviously joined tonight by the great
Speaker 2: Sam Hubbard. So cool to see you again and have
Speaker 2: you join us on the show for the first hour tonight.
Speaker 2: Should we get you.
Speaker 5: In oxygen masks?
Speaker 2: Just from listening back to that, I feel pretty good.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what that was. That was great memories.
Speaker 5: You know, they stir up in the memory bank when
Speaker 5: play that and listen to that. A playoff game, score
Speaker 5: a touchdown in a playoff game, you were a defensive
Speaker 5: football player. You're you're alnman. You're up front, you're in
Speaker 5: the trenches, you're working, you're working against offensive lineman all day, toiling, sweating.
Speaker 5: What was it like to score touchdowns a defensive player.
Speaker 2: In a playoff game? Ninety eight yards?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean it's awesome to be here today.
Speaker 6: You said memories, I'm you know, walk in here and
Speaker 6: sign a bunch of pictures. Take some picture pictures of people,
Speaker 6: and every picture that they asked me to sign and
Speaker 6: brought back a different memory, different great play.
Speaker 5: From my career. And you know.
Speaker 6: From rookie year to offensive plays to sacks and Houston
Speaker 6: and twenty twenty win in the game. I mean, just
Speaker 6: good to be here today, but that play specifically was
Speaker 6: You know, the thing I remember the most is sitting
Speaker 6: in my locker after the game, completely exhausted.
Speaker 5: And you know, media is going crazy and.
Speaker 6: Zach Taylor walks up to me, as I'm saying, there
Speaker 6: taking my tape off my feet, and you know, usually
Speaker 6: it takes a while the head coach you get in there.
Speaker 6: It was maybe five minutes and he runs in and
Speaker 6: finds me and taps me on the shoulder. He's like,
Speaker 6: you realize they're saying that's the greatest play in Bengals history,
Speaker 6: and it's like the most vivid memory that I have.
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, really that just happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really and I don't think there's any doubt
Speaker 2: about it. I mean, when you think back to the
Speaker 2: great moments in Bengals history, the Freezer Bowl is the
Speaker 2: most well remembered game, but there wasn't a specific play
Speaker 2: in that game other than this guy coming out with
Speaker 2: short sleeves.
Speaker 5: But no sleeves ever. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But in terms of a single play, I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's any doubt that that is the most iconic
Speaker 2: play in fifty eight years of Bengal's history. And it
Speaker 2: was made by a kid who grew up in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: And as Mike Tarico said and his version of the play,
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati kid and awesome.
Speaker 5: The thing that is impressive as a former Lignement is
Speaker 5: how fast you ran in that thing?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 5: And you I mean you, you were moving pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you were moving pretty good. Seventeen eight, seventeen eight, that
Speaker 5: might be you. That's pretty good track. That's pretty good,
Speaker 5: you know. And what were you waiting at the time?
Speaker 5: About sixty five?
Speaker 6: I run sprints after practice every day with Trey, and
Speaker 6: he was hitting twenty miles an hour.
Speaker 5: Was happy with seventeen? Man, got me there. That's all
Speaker 5: all that matter. I remember seeing you guys do those
Speaker 5: gasters man, Yeah, went to the field, not the length
Speaker 5: of whip down back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was after every practice, traded the paid off
Speaker 6: you do it one after every practice?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What number play was that on the drive? Because it
Speaker 2: was a super long, time consuming, draining drive.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was fourteen plays, But the only
Speaker 6: reason we're in that position was because they had a
Speaker 6: huge explosive play and Jesse Bates ran across the field, tackles, touchdowns,
Speaker 6: even tackle in the three yard line just to give
Speaker 6: us a chance. And you know, if you tapped out
Speaker 6: right there, the game would have been probably over. So
Speaker 6: it was a collective effort just to fight and scratching
Speaker 6: claw on dogfight, and two guys jumped knocked the ball out,
Speaker 6: both Logan and Jermaine Pratt. It was just such a
Speaker 6: team effort because honestly, we were playing the Ravens back
Speaker 6: to back and they kind of figured out our offense,
Speaker 6: and it's tough to it's tough to be to any
Speaker 6: team in the NFL two weeks in a row Autia.
Speaker 5: Right, People forget that. That's how that locked up.
Speaker 2: That was crazy, you know, so obviously remember that play,
Speaker 2: But I also remember your reaction after the playoff win
Speaker 2: over the Raiders to start the Super Bowl run in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, because you were so happy as a
Speaker 2: Cincinnati person who had endured all this taught the Bengals
Speaker 2: haven't won a playoff game in thirty years. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: You were just so overjoyed and proud to be part
Speaker 2: of the team that ended the streak and now you know,
Speaker 2: could forget about that, move on and try to keep winning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, after the game, I was definitely happy er than most,
Speaker 6: And during the week leading up, I was way more
Speaker 6: stressed than most because I've seen us get to the playoffs.
Speaker 6: I think it was five years straight in the twenty tens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with.
Speaker 6: Heartbreak after heartbreak, and I just couldn't imagine us, you know,
Speaker 6: going through that again.
Speaker 5: We had to be the ones to get it done.
Speaker 6: This was the year, and uh, you know, we were
Speaker 6: locked in throughout the week and wasn't trying to add
Speaker 6: any more pressure on anybody, But I told this story.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: After the game, I was running up to Joe. I'm like,
Speaker 6: do you realize what we just did? We broke the curse?
Speaker 6: And he was so nonchalant, like what We're like, we
Speaker 6: were gonna win, Like I walked. I expected nothing more
Speaker 6: than to win, and I just was like, you don't
Speaker 6: understand what we just did.
Speaker 2: So at his postgame news conference that night, it was
Speaker 2: so blase. Yeah, it was good. If we play again
Speaker 2: next week, right, matter of fact, very matter of fact.
Speaker 5: So you're you're more high school Ohio State since Bengals
Speaker 5: your other the Cincinnati Kidds Mike Thrikoke Trico said, what
Speaker 5: what did it it mean for you to play your
Speaker 5: entire career from start to finish, first nap to last
Speaker 5: nappen all the great things in between with the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 6: You know, it was everything to me that first off,
Speaker 6: getting drafted back to Cincinnati. You know, I was anticipating
Speaker 6: going a bit higher. You know, I had some struggles
Speaker 6: with the forty and bench press and whatnot, and I
Speaker 6: ended up going into the third after thinking I was
Speaker 6: going to be going much earlier. And I was at
Speaker 6: my draft party downtown, get a call from Marvin Lewis,
Speaker 6: and uh, you know that starts it off as like,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't care how late I got drafted.
Speaker 6: I'm going to the Banks. Everyone was so excited, and
Speaker 6: you know, you get there and you you you expect
Speaker 6: it to be, you know, like homecoming, all glory. You know,
Speaker 6: you win every game at Ohio State almost and you
Speaker 6: know we've faced a lot of struggles. The whole staff
Speaker 6: gets fired after rookie year. It was just a lot
Speaker 6: of up and downs, and then to ride that wave
Speaker 6: all the way from the bottom back up to the
Speaker 6: success we had and you know, now we're in We're
Speaker 6: expected to be in the playoffs every year, expect to
Speaker 6: go to the Super Bowl. To leave it in that
Speaker 6: condition was just so important, And I'm thankful and couldn't
Speaker 6: imagine putting on another jersey. So I sleep easy every
Speaker 6: night knowing I'm a Bengal for life. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 6: very important to me. And I'm still here jumping on
Speaker 6: the radio with my ever got.
Speaker 2: So lap played in Super Bowl sixteen, you played in
Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty six. He can recall details to this day,
Speaker 2: you know, the tiniest detail. I mean, when you close
Speaker 2: your eyes, can you just remember everything about being at
Speaker 2: so far that day?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, not as much as the it's two
Speaker 6: weeks leading up to the game, Not as much as
Speaker 6: the weeks preparing. But once you know, you get on
Speaker 6: the bus, you put your suit on, you you get
Speaker 6: to the locker room.
Speaker 5: From then on, you know, from warm.
Speaker 6: Ups to every play, it's just such a heightened time
Speaker 6: in your life where you you really do remember everything.
Speaker 6: I really haven't gone back and watched the film. I
Speaker 6: gotta be honest, but there was no one. No I have,
Speaker 6: but like, it's not something I do. I did it
Speaker 6: once and I was like, you know.
Speaker 2: My advice is to cut it off with about two minutes.
Speaker 2: Fantastic up until then.
Speaker 6: Man, that was a tough one to get over. But
Speaker 6: what a run, What a magical time in the city.
Speaker 6: I mean getting back from that game. We got back late,
Speaker 6: both from the AFC Championship and from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: I remember pulling into it had to be hundreds thousands
Speaker 6: of people outside the gate of the stadium welcome the
Speaker 6: US back. And I have no idea how they knew
Speaker 6: what time or when we're getting back.
Speaker 5: But I told them.
Speaker 6: But just the energy in the city was unbelievable all throughout.
Speaker 5: What I remember what it was like in Super Bowl sixteen,
Speaker 5: prepping for it and then going up to Pontiac and
Speaker 5: then trying to sleep the night before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: I could not. Man, I was struggling, you know. I
Speaker 5: was tossing the turning. I was thinking about all kinds
Speaker 5: of all kinds of plays, all kinds of formation schematics.
Speaker 5: It was like, man, my mind was going one hundred
Speaker 5: miles an hour. What was it like for you the
Speaker 5: night before the Super Bowl? Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 6: I feel like the night before games, you know, you
Speaker 6: have your routine. Yeah, you go to your final meeting,
Speaker 6: you get your snack, you go back to your room,
Speaker 6: and you know, throughout that week you're in you're on site.
Speaker 6: We were in LA for a whole week, right, so
Speaker 6: we basically had moved into what would be our hotel rooms,
Speaker 6: like an apartment. So throughout the whole week it was stressful.
Speaker 6: You know, you're thinking about everything. I was, you know,
Speaker 6: every day I would do a meditation, you know, stay
Speaker 6: off social media, trying to limit as much stimulus as
Speaker 6: to what's actually going on. And the night before the game,
Speaker 6: I can't say I remember tossing and turning, but I
Speaker 6: remember throughout the whole week having to control my nervous system.
Speaker 6: Because that's what everyone says is it's such a big
Speaker 6: game that by the time kickoff happens, you're totally zapping energy.
Speaker 6: So I was doing everything I could. I wasn't even
Speaker 6: texting people back, you know, I was just focus on
Speaker 6: just you.
Speaker 5: Know, doing my job, doing my routines. And that's all
Speaker 5: that mattered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam Hubbard is our special guest tonight. Sam, of
Speaker 2: course retired at the end of last season. He's living
Speaker 2: his best life in retirement. He got married, there's been traveled,
Speaker 2: there's been fly fishing, doing all sorts of great stuff.
Speaker 2: But we are going to be putting him to work
Speaker 2: with the Cincinnati Bengals. He's going to be doing a
Speaker 2: segment periodically on the Bengals Weekly TV show where he
Speaker 2: breaks down video of Bengals plays, trying to come up
Speaker 2: with the right name Sam spotlight Hubbard's highlights. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure which we'll find something that works, but in any case,
Speaker 2: we are going to do a radio version on this
Speaker 2: show tonight. When we come back. We're gonna play some
Speaker 2: highlights from last week's game at Greenby Green Bay. Sam
Speaker 2: is taking a look at these plays. He's gonna tell
Speaker 2: us what really happened to some of these key moments
Speaker 2: in last week's game. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show.
Speaker 2: We are live at the MVP Sports Bar in Silverton.
Speaker 2: Sam is here until seven Lap and I are here
Speaker 2: until eight. On ESPN fifteen thirty. You are listening to
Speaker 2: The Bengals Game Plan Show. Presented by bud Light, Easy
Speaker 2: to Drink, Easy to Enjoy, live on a Wednesday night
Speaker 2: from the MVP Sports Bar here in Silverton on Plainfield Road.
Speaker 2: If you are in the neighborhood, come out and join us.
Speaker 2: Lap and I are here until eight o'clock tonight. Our
Speaker 2: special guest until seven is form Bengals defensive end Sam Hubbard,
Speaker 2: As we get you set for Thursday Night football coming
Speaker 2: up tomorrow at pay Course Stadium, the dreaded, hated, yes,
Speaker 2: but grudgingly respected Pittsburgh Steelers are coming to town. They're
Speaker 2: going down to Borrow Night. They come in at four
Speaker 2: and one. There will be four and two at the
Speaker 2: end of the game, as the Bengals are gonna get
Speaker 2: it done tomorrow with Joe Flacco at quarterback. All right,
Speaker 2: As I promised earlier, we are going to be debuting
Speaker 2: a new segment tonight, really kind of previewing something that's
Speaker 2: going to be coming up on the Bengals Weekly TV show,
Speaker 2: because Sam periodically is going to be breaking down video
Speaker 2: and really sharing an expert's view of what takes place
Speaker 2: on some of the key plays in games. So we're
Speaker 2: gonna try an audio version of this tonight. We are
Speaker 2: going to start in the fourth quarter of last week's
Speaker 2: game at green Bay. It's the Bengals ball. It is
Speaker 2: fourth down and five at the green Bay nineteen yard line.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened. Flacco in the gun, three receivers left,
Speaker 2: one right, Hey Ryan in the backfield to five Van Rush.
Speaker 2: Flaco throwing and the pass is cau Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: how in God's name to Jamar Chase catch that ball?
Speaker 8: Now he's doing the gritty in the end zone. The
Speaker 8: Bengals get a nineteen yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase
Speaker 8: when he wasn't open.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, all right, Sam Hubbard. Other than seeing a great catch,
Speaker 2: what stood out to you when you watch that play
Speaker 2: on tape?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that play, it's an unbelievable play when you watch it.
Speaker 6: But what's most important is the context, I think from
Speaker 6: the previous play. When you watch the previous play, fellow
Speaker 6: Moller graduate Carrington Valentine, he's guarding Jamar, is an uncatchable pass.
Speaker 6: He swats it down, you know, gets in Jamar's face,
Speaker 6: does the gritty right, Jamar calmly walks back to the huddle,
Speaker 6: you know, gets the play lines back up, and if
Speaker 6: you know Jamar, which I think you all get a peek.
Speaker 5: Into his mindset and who he is.
Speaker 6: You know that if he lines up that next play
Speaker 6: and the ball is thrown to him, he's probably coming
Speaker 6: down with it. So I know he was double covered,
Speaker 6: impossible catch.
Speaker 5: But if you if you.
Speaker 6: Know how Jamar's is, how competitive, what type of teammate
Speaker 6: he is, and if you watch that whole drive too,
Speaker 6: I mean, he's the one that got him down the field.
Speaker 6: So you know, it's easy for a team to be
Speaker 6: celebrating when they're up like that, but you know, when
Speaker 6: you have your captain receiver, best receiver in the NFL
Speaker 6: delivering like that and a tough time and after something
Speaker 6: like that happened to play before and rising to the occasion,
Speaker 6: I thought it was a really special play in.
Speaker 2: The game now that you mentioned, and I recall Lap
Speaker 2: saying on the broadcast after Valentine grittied, let's be careful,
Speaker 2: Yeah man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't. Don't you know, poke the bear, the bear,
Speaker 5: rattle the best hive. You know you'll get stung, baby,
Speaker 5: you get stung a bunch, because I mean, the great
Speaker 5: ones they don't like that stuff.
Speaker 6: No he doesn't, Well you won't show it. But the
Speaker 6: next play, yeah, you better triple because you.
Speaker 5: Set yourself up for a beatdown, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to a highlight number two. This
Speaker 2: is actually a couple of plays put together. That's spotlight
Speaker 2: a player on defense who had a fantastic game. Let's
Speaker 2: listen to these plays. On second down and seven, Love
Speaker 2: under center from the Bengals twenty six yard line. Here's
Speaker 2: a screen out to the left ice and the Bengals
Speaker 2: read it and make the tackle. Dobbs brought down by
Speaker 2: Turner back at the twenty seven yard line, a loss
Speaker 2: of one. Play action faith Love over the middle broken
Speaker 2: up by DJ Turner, Who's deflected a couple of passes today.
Speaker 2: He also had the deflection that led to an ist
Speaker 2: by Gino Stone early in the game. That pass was
Speaker 2: intended for Golden. DJ Turner had five pass breakups in
Speaker 2: the game. That's crazy for a single game. He now
Speaker 2: leads the NFL with eleven. What stood out about his
Speaker 2: play last Sunday?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wanted to highlight DJ because what you're looking
Speaker 6: at is really ascending young player who you know. He
Speaker 6: came in two years ago from the University of Michigan,
Speaker 6: ran a.
Speaker 5: Four to two six or something crazy like that.
Speaker 6: And last year you really saw him coming on as
Speaker 6: the year went on, getting more snaps.
Speaker 5: There was a rotation going on. He was making more and.
Speaker 6: More plays than all of a sudden freak play, he
Speaker 6: breaks his collarbone coming down for a ball, and that's
Speaker 6: something you can't really control. But I've been watching him
Speaker 6: this season. I think that is his technique, his eye discipline,
Speaker 6: his closing speed is something that you can't really even coach.
Speaker 6: And on that bubble play, I mean he ran ten
Speaker 6: yards in the blink of an eye and undercutting the
Speaker 6: route for the PBu and you mentioned the pick. I
Speaker 6: think DJ Turner is emerging as the cornerback one on
Speaker 6: the team, and definitely keep your eye on him as
Speaker 6: as you watch him work. As you watch him, you know,
Speaker 6: really lead this back end as far as making plays.
Speaker 6: But also I think he's become become more more vocal
Speaker 6: and more involved as he as I said, he's ascending,
Speaker 6: becoming a grown man in the NFL almost I do.
Speaker 5: I think you know, he's very physical. I mean he
Speaker 5: and tackling in open space. When you have all that
Speaker 5: open area around you, it's tough. I mean you know,
Speaker 5: the spotlights on you, the camera's on you. If you whiff,
Speaker 5: if you miss, you know you're gonna get dogged.
Speaker 6: And uh, he's not afraid to go set the edge
Speaker 6: too as a corner downhill on the dollers, you know,
Speaker 6: force everything back inside. You don't see him jumping under
Speaker 6: blocks on screen passes. He stays on his gap and
Speaker 6: maintains leverage, does a good job understanding leverage and coverage.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, it's been fun watching him grow up.
Speaker 5: He's a real intelligent guy. Teammates talk about that is
Speaker 5: football IQ and his overall intelligence. But they also say that,
Speaker 5: you know, he's really a good guy. You know, one
Speaker 5: of those guys that's you know, easy to get along with.
Speaker 5: Everybody in the locker room kind of gravitates toward him
Speaker 5: and everything that everybody respects, you know, what he has
Speaker 5: to say and how he says.
Speaker 6: It, even though he's a mission Yeah, you can.
Speaker 5: I definitely second that he is that guy.
Speaker 6: And every year, like you know, those guys, they find
Speaker 6: something better every year to better their routine, their preparation. Right,
Speaker 6: bring other guys along with him. He is definitely one
Speaker 6: of those guys.
Speaker 2: Right, all right. DJ also had a hand literally. In
Speaker 2: our next highlight, this is the Packers opening drive as
Speaker 2: they march the ball into the red zone. It's third
Speaker 2: down in five for Green Bay. Shotgun snap rush coming
Speaker 2: up the middle. Love begins scrambling right. They can't get
Speaker 2: him down yet.
Speaker 8: Now he throws and it is intercepted, deflected and picked off.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are running it back. It's Geno Stone.
Speaker 8: He's out of bounds at the thirty seven yard line.
Speaker 5: I think it might have been DJ Turner that tipped it.
Speaker 5: You're correct, Yeah, DJ Turner got a hand on it.
Speaker 2: Red zone takeaways are huge. What was the key there?
Speaker 6: I like to look at Geno Stone, you know, genostone
Speaker 6: if you see him flash on the film film coming downhill,
Speaker 6: making big hits, and I think the physicality aspect he
Speaker 6: brings to the game of some of this defense needs
Speaker 6: from the back end. Obviously, you see him get a
Speaker 6: couple of takeaways this year. You know he we all struggled.
Speaker 6: It was a tough year last year defensively, but Gino's
Speaker 6: a seventh round pick, a guy that grinded for everything
Speaker 6: that he's gotten, worked his way up the depth chart
Speaker 6: to I think he led the NFL and interceptions. His
Speaker 6: his final year in Baltimore, comes here new you know,
Speaker 6: new team, new environment, and I really like the way
Speaker 6: he's played these last few weeks as far as an
Speaker 6: emotional leader, as far as a tone setter in the
Speaker 6: back end.
Speaker 5: Uh, this was a takeaway which you know.
Speaker 6: Really gave the defense confidence going into this next three quarters.
Speaker 6: But I also like the place where he's coming down
Speaker 6: hill and really knocking guys backwards. And you know that's
Speaker 6: you know, with the young linebackers in front of you,
Speaker 6: that can go a long way as far as the
Speaker 6: mentality for your defense.
Speaker 5: And he's definitely one of the leaders on this team.
Speaker 5: He is, that's another one that will, uh, he'll hit you.
Speaker 5: Both safeties will come downhill and knock you back. You know,
Speaker 5: I mean, what's it? How how valuable is it for
Speaker 5: defense to have two guys like that that will come
Speaker 5: downhill and really play the run physically, aggressive, super tough,
Speaker 5: and be so talent and effective on the back end
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's really important because you know,
Speaker 6: if you're three deep, you know you have another basically
Speaker 6: linebacker in the box right with their and strong safety
Speaker 6: dropping down. But I was fortunate to have two of
Speaker 6: the best safeties you know, I ever played with Von
Speaker 6: Bell Jesse Bates, and we won a lot of game
Speaker 6: with games with those guys, and they were the quarterbacks
Speaker 6: of our defense. And I see that Jordan Battle and
Speaker 6: Gino Stone are emerging. Jordan was, you know, just a
Speaker 6: young guy a few years ago. You see his play elevating.
Speaker 6: He's moving a lot faster, you know, anticipating things, communicating better.
Speaker 6: We had a very young back end these last few years.
Speaker 6: Replacing those guys that I mentioned. I think that they're
Speaker 6: really coming into their own and going to be a
Speaker 6: strength of this team for the games to come.
Speaker 2: All right, we've got one more highlight. Bengals didn't score
Speaker 2: in the first half, but they opened the second half
Speaker 2: with a seventeen play touchdown. Let's hear how that drive ended.
Speaker 2: Fourth down in goal. The Bengals line up to go
Speaker 2: for it a little more than two yards away. Biggins
Speaker 2: and Yosi Bosh out to the right, Hudson and Chase
Speaker 2: out to the left. Pe Ryan in the backfield.
Speaker 8: Flacco catches the shotgun, snap pump fakes throws into the
Speaker 8: end zones caught in the back of the end zone
Speaker 8: under the goalpost by Tanner Hudson.
Speaker 2: What'd you see there?
Speaker 6: That was just two veterans. You know, you got Flacco's
Speaker 6: first game. You know, you're fourth down, You're you're throwing
Speaker 6: to Tanner Hudson, who the play before had another fifteen
Speaker 6: yard catch just to get him in this position. And
Speaker 6: Tanner's played for seven teams, been in the league a
Speaker 6: long time. I think he was in my class. And
Speaker 6: obviously we all know how much football Flacco has played.
Speaker 6: But when you have guys that have been around the
Speaker 6: block that much and know what needs to get done,
Speaker 6: they can really improvise. And I thought that was just
Speaker 6: such a you know, impressive touchdown just to you know,
Speaker 6: keep the game alive. And that's what Flacco does for
Speaker 6: this team. He can really, you know, improvise. He can
Speaker 6: make things happen, uh, see situations in the game, communicate,
Speaker 6: you know, commanded huddle. He got there four days ago.
Speaker 6: I was just so impressed with the pump fake and
Speaker 6: doing whatever he needed. I was actually I think his
Speaker 6: third read on the play, second or third read on
Speaker 6: the fourth down on the coal line, so uh, you know,
Speaker 6: they're staying alive. And I thought that, you know, we'll
Speaker 6: see more comfortability from from those veterans and the and
Speaker 6: the on the offense for the weeks to come.
Speaker 5: You know the thing about that play that was impressed
Speaker 5: to it's uh to create an extent like they did
Speaker 5: when they've only been together for a short period of time,
Speaker 5: you know, four days. Yeah, I mean like mental telepathy.
Speaker 5: They were kind of like reading each other's mind and
Speaker 5: like you said, the pump fake kind of triggered Tanner
Speaker 5: Hudson to make that final move that that that broke
Speaker 5: him open. And uh, that was that was a big play.
Speaker 5: That was a that was a huge play. Tanner Hudson's
Speaker 5: another guy that's a very intelligent football player. Is Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 5: he won a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's an underrated block. Yeah he's he'll he'll get
Speaker 6: after it. We definitely.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: I still think Drew Sample is one of the best
Speaker 6: blockers in the day. But uh, you know, all those
Speaker 6: guys will do when they need to. Another guy I
Speaker 6: can't wait to see back is Eric All.
Speaker 5: He's He's he can really that's my guy. I can
Speaker 5: see him back.
Speaker 2: This segment was good. I think that worked out well,
Speaker 2: real good. I love it. I think we've I think
Speaker 2: we've stumbled into something.
Speaker 5: This was excellent.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a time out. Sam was
Speaker 2: the Ruler of the Jungle in the home opener. Tomorrow
Speaker 2: night's ruler of the Jungle is Andrew Whitworth. We'll hear
Speaker 2: from Big Wit now. This is the Bengals Game Plan
Speaker 2: Show presented by Big Light, live from the MVP Sports
Speaker 2: Bar in Silverton here on ESPN fifteen thirty. We are
Speaker 2: back at the MVP Sports Bar here in Silverton. It's
Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by Bud Light. I'm
Speaker 2: Dan Hord with Dave Lapham. Our special guest until seven
Speaker 2: o'clock tonight is Sam Hubbard, former Bengals great Ohio state standout,
Speaker 2: Molar High School legend. Speaking of Molar High School legends,
Speaker 2: my longtime broadcast partner on UC football games, Jim Kelly,
Speaker 2: passed away last weekend. Jim was a great football player
Speaker 2: and track star at Molar High School. He also frequently
Speaker 2: played music here at the MVP Sports Bar in Silverton
Speaker 2: with his guitar. He would stand on the small stage
Speaker 2: here and entertain everybody here. They are going to name
Speaker 2: the small stage here Jim's hotter, which is awesome. So
Speaker 2: thank you for the folks here at MVP Sports Bar.
Speaker 2: That's good for honoring my friend Jim Kelly. I can't
Speaker 2: tell you how much I appreciate that. All Right, Bengals
Speaker 2: play the Steelers tomorrow night. As we mentioned, the ruler
Speaker 2: of the jungle is going to be Andrew Whitworth. It's
Speaker 2: a huge game for Cincinnati. It's a great opportunity. The
Speaker 2: Steelers are four and one, but they don't have a
Speaker 2: great win yet. They did beat the Patriots, but the
Speaker 2: Patriots fumbled four times in that game. They dominated in
Speaker 2: every other way, but they kind of handed it away
Speaker 2: with the turnovers. There were five total turnovers in that game.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh still has to play the Packers, the Colts, the Chargers,
Speaker 2: the Bills, the Lions. They've got two games late in
Speaker 2: the season against Baltimore when Lamar will be back. You've
Speaker 2: got to think they're going to come back to the
Speaker 2: pack a little bit. If the Bengals could get a
Speaker 2: head to head win tomorrow, it would be huge. Let's
Speaker 2: hear from Andrew Whitworth, who's coming to town for Amazon Prime.
Speaker 9: They look like that team that's just gonna take over
Speaker 9: the AFC North this year and kind of have a
Speaker 9: smooth run to win in this division. So if you
Speaker 9: want to mess that up, you want to be the
Speaker 9: guy who comes in and ruins that whole story, you know,
Speaker 9: and you want to say there's still a lot of
Speaker 9: promise left in the season. These are the kind of
Speaker 9: games you got to rise to the occasion.
Speaker 5: Last week you.
Speaker 9: Rose the occasion in Green Bay, heck of a challenge,
Speaker 9: all these things, you almost got it done. But this
Speaker 9: week it's one of those that you have to get
Speaker 9: it done. And so you know what, who can go
Speaker 9: out and be the best burdens of ourselves, every gown,
Speaker 9: our team. Let's go out and give it our absolute
Speaker 9: best to really change the narrative of the rest of
Speaker 9: our season.
Speaker 5: Because you win that one, you will.
Speaker 9: You'll change the way people are talking about you, You'll
Speaker 9: change the way you believe in yourself, and you'll change
Speaker 9: the vision you have for the rest of the season
Speaker 9: and how it's going to go.
Speaker 2: Sam, I'm not going to use the words must win,
Speaker 2: because it's not. You never know what can happen from
Speaker 2: here on in shoot. Aaron Rodgers could get hurt tomorrow
Speaker 2: night I'm not wishing that on him, but things happen.
Speaker 2: It's football, but it's obviously a pivotal game. If the
Speaker 2: Bengals win tomorrow, they've got home games coming up against
Speaker 2: the Jets and the Bears. They could put themselves really
Speaker 2: right back in the thick of things with a win
Speaker 2: tomorrow night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6: And I think that you know, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 6: an electric environment Thursday Night always is.
Speaker 5: You know, you got the white Bengal.
Speaker 6: I think they use that energy to their advantage and
Speaker 6: you know, go all in.
Speaker 5: You know, this is a it's not a must win game.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't like that phrase, but you know,
Speaker 6: every AFC North game is essential, and uh, this is
Speaker 6: their first opportunity to go against the Steelers this year.
Speaker 6: It's a physical battle. I think that they, you know,
Speaker 6: leave they got nothing to lose. You go out there,
Speaker 6: you leave it all out at the table. You try
Speaker 6: out physical and you're trying to run the ball, you
Speaker 6: try and get some takeaways. Earlier, I remember playing Monday
Speaker 6: Night against Big Ben and the Steelers in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: We were probably two and ten at that time, two
Speaker 6: and eleven. We had you know, know nothing to play for.
Speaker 6: They I think they.
Speaker 5: Were Startlen eleven or two at the time.
Speaker 6: We get an early takeaway early in that game, get
Speaker 6: a pick, von Bell knocks out Juju Smith Schuster and
Speaker 6: it was one of the best wins of my entire career.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I had so much fun out there making plays, just
Speaker 6: doing it for the guys that you're playing next to
Speaker 6: and doing it for the city. So I think that
Speaker 6: if they take that same approach and just you know,
Speaker 6: let it fly, it could be a good night.
Speaker 5: For the ben Us. I think it could be. It's
Speaker 5: it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be very interesting. I
Speaker 5: think turnovers are going to be big. They are in
Speaker 5: the in this football. Yeah, early on, establish your presence early,
Speaker 5: you know, make some kind of a physical statement, whether
Speaker 5: it's the guy you know turning making the turnover, turning
Speaker 5: the football over with the interception, fumble, recovery or whatever
Speaker 5: it might be. Or do a Sam Hubbin take that
Speaker 5: turnover back to the house. That would be work, that
Speaker 5: would be even better. But it is It's like every
Speaker 5: every position group, every player in that position group has
Speaker 5: to take it upon himself to to to bring it,
Speaker 5: to bring it at the highest level possible. The physicality
Speaker 5: part of that, the attention to detail, performing your role,
Speaker 5: your your assignment to the to the utmost and like
Speaker 5: you never have before on a on a regular basis,
Speaker 5: play by play, snap by snap, quarter by quarter, half
Speaker 5: by half, whatever. I mean, you just got to get
Speaker 5: it done. No excuses, no excuses, football game whatsoever. You
Speaker 5: just I mean, it's a division game. Division games are monstrous.
Speaker 5: You're like, if you win, it's like a win and
Speaker 5: a half. You know, you get a little bit of
Speaker 5: a little bit of an edge there. So this one's big, man,
Speaker 5: this one's monstrous.
Speaker 6: I heard Flacco say something in his press conference about
Speaker 6: you know, what do you say to teams that are
Speaker 6: on a losing skid? And I thought it was really interesting, how,
Speaker 6: you know, everyone's so focused on worrying about the criticisms
Speaker 6: and if people are saying they're doing well and really,
Speaker 6: in reality, you know, everyone's trying to do their own
Speaker 6: part right. And I think that's a really contagious good
Speaker 6: mindset for the team to take over. And he's obviously
Speaker 6: been around the block, and I think that that'll be
Speaker 6: a positive catalyst for him to not overthinking and not
Speaker 6: be too worried about the analysis or the film critics
Speaker 6: and just go out there and make some plays.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, you faced Aaron Rodgers eight years ago at
Speaker 2: Green Bay.
Speaker 5: What stood out Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we played him I think in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 6: and his ability to anticipate create. He was playing with
Speaker 6: DeVante Adams at that time and they were playing like
Speaker 6: backyard football, just drawing up plays and no matter how
Speaker 6: many guys we try to cover, they always were one
Speaker 6: step ahead. And you know, he's just seen so much football.
Speaker 6: He's he's still you know, moving pretty good getting the
Speaker 6: ball out. I don't think he wants to get hit
Speaker 6: like he used to. But his arm is generational and
Speaker 6: got the utmost respect for him and his his career.
Speaker 6: And it's a challenge. It's a challenge to keep him
Speaker 6: in the pocket. It's a challenge to disrupt his throwing
Speaker 6: lanes and not let him feel comfortable back there. If
Speaker 6: they get some hits on him early, you know, run
Speaker 6: some games twisted up that could definitely, you know, make
Speaker 6: him a little too anticipatory and not I want to
Speaker 6: sit back there so comfortable.
Speaker 5: And you make great points there. I mean, that's a
Speaker 5: that's a good synopsis Scott to report there on on
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers for sure. I think the one thing about
Speaker 5: him now too, is he's enjoying football again. Yeah. When
Speaker 5: he was with the Jets in New York, it was
Speaker 5: a chore for him. It didn't see like he was
Speaker 5: having fun. I mean, this is a kid's game. It's
Speaker 5: grown men playing a kids in for the first time ever,
Speaker 5: you have two quarterbacks over forty years old playing against
Speaker 5: each other and they're playing the most important position in
Speaker 5: the kid's game. Yeah, so you know, go out and
Speaker 5: enjoy it. Go out and have fun, man, you know,
Speaker 5: don't let the weight of the world fall on your shoulders.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's something that everybody would love to do,
Speaker 5: and you're the chosen one. You're the one that's been
Speaker 5: selected to go do it, So take full advantage of
Speaker 5: it and have the best time of your life.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool that Joe Flacco is facing an older quarterback. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's forty, and he's the young guy in this match.
Speaker 5: Like it.
Speaker 2: He was pretty good last week, that's for sure. Hopefully
Speaker 2: his second half against Green Bay carries over for four
Speaker 2: quarters tomorrow night. We're gonna take a time out when
Speaker 2: we come back. We are going to listen back to
Speaker 2: the final play of Sam Hubbard's NFL career. This is
Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by butt Light, Easy
Speaker 2: to Drink, Easy to Enjoy, live from the MVP Sports
Speaker 2: Bar in Silverton on ESPN fifteen thirty Borrow Night on
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football. It's the Bengals against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a white out. Bengals will have their
Speaker 2: white Bengals uniforms on. The white helmet, the white jerseys,
Speaker 2: the white pants. It's a great look. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's just me. You guys like look faster in
Speaker 2: those unis. Did you feel differently when you wore those?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they always say white sox, white cleats. You can
Speaker 6: look faster on films right to wear them as much?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Sam Hubbard is our guest for another
Speaker 2: thirteen minutes or so here at the MVP Sports Bar
Speaker 2: in Silverton. At the beginning of the show, we listened
Speaker 2: back to the fumble in the jungle. That was actually
Speaker 2: one of three touchdowns that Sam scored in his NFL career,
Speaker 2: which is pretty unusual for a defensive lineman.
Speaker 5: No doubt.
Speaker 2: As a rookie, he scored on a fumble recovery against
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. He's been signing pictures of that tonight. Several
Speaker 2: people brought photos of that play. And then there was
Speaker 2: the touchdown he scored in his final NFL game in
Speaker 2: what turned out to be his final NFL play December
Speaker 2: fifteenth last year in Nashville against the Tennessee Titans. Let's listen.
Speaker 8: Back Burrow fakes a handoff, throws a pass.
Speaker 4: Sam Hubbard with the catch, touchdown Bengals. Sam Hubbard raising
Speaker 4: the football over his head and spiking at Gronk style
Speaker 4: after the first catch.
Speaker 2: How of his NFL career.
Speaker 5: Sam Hubbard started his career at Moeler High School as
Speaker 5: a tight end. Sam Hubbard is an athlete, Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 5: That's a great fingertip catch.
Speaker 2: It really was a heck of a catch.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't like right into your chest. It
Speaker 2: was pretty well defended and you had to grab like
Speaker 2: the back half of the ball.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I know that that whole play. Coming to Fruition was
Speaker 6: a season long process, you know. The I had a
Speaker 6: conversation with Zach early in the year after a couple
Speaker 6: of injuries. How we're gonna rotate some young guys and
Speaker 6: play some more and I was gonna mentor them, and uh,
Speaker 6: there was gonna be more ways that I could help
Speaker 6: the team, and one of them was we needed a
Speaker 6: third tight end because I think Eric had just gotten hurt.
Speaker 6: So you know, we I was going in there for
Speaker 6: a little bit of blocking and uh, obviously with the
Speaker 6: goal one day to have a pass put in for us,
Speaker 6: and we ran, you know, blocking play after blocking play,
Speaker 6: and then one week the look was kind of there
Speaker 6: for for us to have an opportunity. And that week
Speaker 6: at practice, Joe grabbed me the side and said, if
Speaker 6: we're gonna actually run this, you gotta do it full speed.
Speaker 6: So we ran about ten corner routes at full speed
Speaker 6: before practice. He threw a lasers at me and told me,
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna have a guy on you. It's
Speaker 6: gonna it's not gonna be an easy catch. And sure enough,
Speaker 6: you know, shock that Zach called it on the third down,
Speaker 6: and uh, I knew that getting out there, I had
Speaker 6: to come.
Speaker 5: Down with the ball.
Speaker 6: Uh, and you know, the guy was.
Speaker 5: On my shoulders. It was a perfectly thrown ball.
Speaker 6: And under no circumstances, I was not gonna come down
Speaker 6: with it, and uh, just what a great play, what
Speaker 6: a great moment. I'm couldn't picture a better, better last
Speaker 6: play in your career. Although it did cause an injury
Speaker 6: and cut it short, but uh, I think Ted Carris
Speaker 6: told me that was the coolest play he's ever ever
Speaker 6: seen in person.
Speaker 5: That meant a lot to me. So what a great moment.
Speaker 5: What what did it mean for two guys that are
Speaker 5: lifelong football friends. I mean, you and Joe Burrow played
Speaker 5: football at Ohio State together, and you're you played tight
Speaker 5: end at Ohio State and you were a good tight end,
Speaker 5: ran solid roads, caught the football, excellent blocker. For you
Speaker 5: guys to come to the National Football League in your
Speaker 5: last game as a professional, you two guys took up
Speaker 5: for a touchdown. It's almost like the football gods said,
Speaker 5: this is the way it's going to be. This is
Speaker 5: the way it's going to be for Sam Harbard in
Speaker 5: this particular football game. What was what was it like
Speaker 5: for you guys to execute that play together? I mean,
Speaker 5: its unbelievable.
Speaker 6: I asked Joe after the game for his jersey, and
Speaker 6: a few months later I get a beautifully framed signs
Speaker 6: with a special message from Joe.
Speaker 5: Let's take sure of the play from Joe's sanatics hooked
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 6: It's the centerpiece of my basement, you know, one of
Speaker 6: my most surprized possessions.
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, you can't even put it to words.
Speaker 6: It's it's so special because you know, we've been through
Speaker 6: so much of our years together, so much adversity.
Speaker 5: Still to this day, you know, talk regularly.
Speaker 6: And one of the best quarterbacks I think to ever play.
Speaker 6: I agree, you know, that's that's doesn't come lately.
Speaker 2: What kind of display do you have for the fumble
Speaker 2: in the jungle.
Speaker 6: It's actually in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 6: got the cleats, I got the jersey, I got all everything.
Speaker 5: About the football. The football is in the Pro Football
Speaker 5: of Fame.
Speaker 6: But on loan you can get it back, so I
Speaker 6: think there as long as they want it.
Speaker 5: But nice they don't want all happily take it back.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, how about that though? What's what's that like
Speaker 5: to have something in Canton? You know that that has
Speaker 5: to be special.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if it's not, you know, my jersey or whatever
Speaker 6: for being the Pro Football for Pro Football Hall of fame.
Speaker 5: I'll take whatever I can get. There you go, I'm
Speaker 5: worth I'm worth you. That'll work for me. All right.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take our final time out during this portion
Speaker 2: of the show, while we still have Sam. We're gonna
Speaker 2: come back and play America's favorite game show. Yes we
Speaker 2: call it, No Your School. Five questions about Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Sam has to get at least three rights to be
Speaker 2: a winner. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented
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Speaker 2: on Plainfield Road. All right, this is our last segment
Speaker 2: with Sam Hubbard. We appreciate Sam's hour tonight and all
Speaker 2: the autographs he's signed, a pictures he's taken. I know
Speaker 2: Bengals fans really appreciate that. Final segment of the show
Speaker 2: is called No Your School. Yes, five questions about Ohio State.
Speaker 2: For a former Buckeye, you must get at least three
Speaker 2: rights to be declared a winner. Are you ready, Sam Hubbert?
Speaker 5: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Question number one, Ohio State had a different name when
Speaker 2: it was founded in eighteen seventy. Gonna make this one
Speaker 2: multiple choice. Is it a the Western Ohio Polytechnic School,
Speaker 2: B Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College, or C the Buckeye Institute.
Speaker 6: I appreciate the multiple choice I figured you might and
Speaker 6: the three choices. I know they have an agricultural school
Speaker 6: still of drive By.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: The Buckeye Institute sounds pretty good, though, I'm gonna have
Speaker 6: to go with to B.
Speaker 2: B is correct, the Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College. You're
Speaker 2: one for one. Question number two, Ohio State has seven
Speaker 2: retired numbers. I would not expect anyone to know all seven.
Speaker 2: Can you name two players who had their uniform number
Speaker 2: retired at Ohio State. M Archie Griffin Archie is one.
Speaker 5: Arch Moe Archie Griffin, Archie and Ray the brothers.
Speaker 2: Did not have his number.
Speaker 5: No, he did not know good player? Did the linebackers Spielman?
Speaker 2: No, Chris Pielman did not.
Speaker 5: Chris Bielman did not.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint of the more recent ones.
Speaker 2: There's another running back Eddie George is correct.
Speaker 5: Good call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Forty five and twenty seven, I
Speaker 2: believe were there Ohio State numbers.
Speaker 5: Did Dan Wilkinson retire?
Speaker 2: He did not. No such luck for big Daddy.
Speaker 5: Daddy.
Speaker 2: I think I'll buy everybody in the bar drink. If
Speaker 2: you could name the other ones, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: They are less Horvath, Vic Janowitz, Howard Cassidy, Chick Hoply,
Speaker 2: and Bill Willis.
Speaker 5: Howard, hap hop Along Cassidy.
Speaker 2: Question number three, what is the name of the Ohio
Speaker 2: State mascot? Correct? All right, you're three for three, so
Speaker 2: now you just go for the perfect score. Question number four,
Speaker 2: what legendary coach led Ohio State to its first national
Speaker 2: championship in nineteen forty two?
Speaker 6: Nineteen forty two, Yes, Wow. The answer is usually what
Speaker 6: he hates for everything, not.
Speaker 2: In this case, not that far back. I'll give you
Speaker 2: a hint. I need Dave Lapham played for him. Not
Speaker 2: in nineteen forty two.
Speaker 5: No, no, not in forty two, Paul Paul Brown is correct.
Speaker 2: Brown is correct.
Speaker 5: He really I did not know.
Speaker 2: Good nugget. Question number five, what does T B, D
Speaker 2: B I T L stand.
Speaker 5: For the best damn band in the land?
Speaker 2: You got it? That is correct.
Speaker 5: Those are good questions.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Wikipedia is a wonderful tool.
Speaker 5: The best, the.
Speaker 6: Best damn fans in the land in the best damn
Speaker 6: band in the moment.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you I was a band geek. I
Speaker 2: was in the high school band. Seeing Ohio State. The
Speaker 2: eye is still one of the coolest things in sports here.
Speaker 2: Is that very cool? It's really good. Sam Hubbard, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for coming out and doing this. I
Speaker 2: do want to tell folks again you will be doing
Speaker 2: some stuff for the Bengals Weekly TV show and for
Speaker 2: our Friday show, so we look forward to having you
Speaker 2: make some appearances on our Friday show later this year.
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for coming out tonight. I
Speaker 2: know the fans loved it and really appreciate it. It's
Speaker 2: here for Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 5: Guys. You what, man, You're a class act, unbelievable human being.
Speaker 5: Just a great guy and a credit to the community.
Speaker 5: My man, Dave, you're too kind always, you're the best.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take a time out. We've
Speaker 2: got an hour to go. The Bengals Game Plan Show
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Speaker 2: We've got the Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers coming up tomorrow
Speaker 2: night at pay Corp Stadium, Cincinnati. Looking to get back
Speaker 2: into the thick of things in the AFC North. The
Speaker 2: Bengals are two and four, the Steelers are four and one.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has gotten off to a great start with Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers at quarterback. With the Bengals are hoping that what
Speaker 2: they sawt of Joe Flacco in the second half last
Speaker 2: week is going to carry over to tomorrow night's game
Speaker 2: against the Pittsburgh Steelers. In the first half last week,
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco eight for fifteen for forty yards, the Bengals
Speaker 2: did not score. Didn't look very good. But then in
Speaker 2: the second half, Lappy completed seventy percent of his passes.
Speaker 2: He threw for one hundred and seventy nine yards. That would,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously be more than three point fifty in
Speaker 2: a full game, two touchdowns, no picks, passer rating of
Speaker 2: one oh seven point five. The Bengals drove into scoring
Speaker 2: position on every possession of the second half. If we
Speaker 2: get that guy or something close to it for four
Speaker 2: quarters tomorrow night, Bengals have a really good chance of it.
Speaker 5: I agree, Dan, and I think that you know, the
Speaker 5: way he finished that football game, he's used to as
Speaker 5: a veteran player a carryover. You know, take that that
Speaker 5: effort that he had in the second half in particular
Speaker 5: that football game, and down the stretch of that football game,
Speaker 5: study it. Look at the tait, see what the defenses
Speaker 5: were doing to him, See what he was doing to
Speaker 5: answer what the defenses were trying to take away from him,
Speaker 5: and uh, and just carry it over to Pittsburgh. Uh.
Speaker 5: And you know, Pittsburgh Steelers are gonna have plenty of
Speaker 5: defense for him to figure out there they are. They
Speaker 5: do it. They do a great job. Mike Tomlin is
Speaker 5: a defensive oriented head coach. There's not a whole lot
Speaker 5: of those in the National Football League. He is as
Speaker 5: good as any with respect to his contributions to game
Speaker 5: planning for the defensive football team Terror Austin defensive coordinator
Speaker 5: is outstanding. He and Mike Tomlin are very uh symbionic.
Speaker 5: They you know, one plus one equals three. They they've
Speaker 5: they've really they feed off of each other and UH
Speaker 5: their football team, particularly the defensive football team, but the
Speaker 5: football team in general has a lot of confidence with
Speaker 5: with those guys, UH and the entire coaching staff. Really
Speaker 5: they do have a heck of a coach staff. The
Speaker 5: Rooney family has been around for a long time. Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: s Field has been around for a long time as well.
Speaker 5: And you know, defensively, like I said, they've got Tara Austin. Offensively,
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith who is highly regarded, well renowned as an
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator in the National Football League. Danny Smith along
Speaker 5: with Darren Simmons, two of the best and longest tenured
Speaker 5: especially teams coaches in all of football. That should be
Speaker 5: an interesting matchup to watch those two try to determine
Speaker 5: and dictate UH field percent field position advantages for their
Speaker 5: respective teams. I think that's going to be a big
Speaker 5: part of it when you when you have a game
Speaker 5: like this, A lot of times these big division rivalries
Speaker 5: come down to turnovers. Don't turn the football over, win
Speaker 5: the turnover margin plus two plus three if you can,
Speaker 5: and UH field position, and that's usually special teams driven
Speaker 5: turnovers play a big part in it as well.
Speaker 2: As a fellow Syracusan, a very graduate. Yes, I'm very
Speaker 2: proud of the fact that you just dropped a symbiotic
Speaker 2: on this show. That's a heck of a vocabulary word,
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, well done.
Speaker 5: There you go all that reading.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mom Lapham. So, Joe Burrow is the man
Speaker 2: of a thousand nicknames, Joe Burr, Joe Sisty, Joey Franchised,
Speaker 2: Joe cool, et cetera. Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher might
Speaker 2: have inadvertently come up with a great nickname for Joe
Speaker 2: Flaco after that game against Green Bay. Here's Dan Pitcher
Speaker 2: talking about his quarterback.
Speaker 10: There's nothing that Joe hasn't seen or hasn't had to
Speaker 10: prepare for, even being around the guy for six days now.
Speaker 2: Or whatever it is.
Speaker 10: There's a there's a calming element of that that goes
Speaker 10: with him because of his professionalism and because of his experience.
Speaker 10: It puts a coach at ease that there's nothing that's
Speaker 10: gonna like jump out at him that is going to
Speaker 10: rattle him.
Speaker 2: You know. Obviously it's a challenge.
Speaker 7: They're gonna make plays, and they're gonna make moving the
Speaker 7: football and scoring hard, but it's not going to be
Speaker 7: because necessarily they surprise Joe Flacco and that that's call me.
Speaker 2: He's Joe calm instead of cool.
Speaker 10: He's I can't say enough about him, never having really
Speaker 10: interacted with him until last Tuesday. What he did last
Speaker 10: week was was pretty remarkable and it's a testament to
Speaker 10: professionalism and there's no substitute for experience.
Speaker 2: Lap we've been around him now for a week. He
Speaker 2: is Joe Calm. I think that's what he is. He
Speaker 2: just still waters when you're around Joe Flaco.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean Dan Pitcher came up with something there.
Speaker 5: He is steady, Eddie, you know, I mean, nothing flusters
Speaker 5: the guy. He's cool, calm, collected, composed he is. He's
Speaker 5: Joe Calm. You get Joe cool and you got Joe
Speaker 5: Calm in the same same football team at the quarterback position.
Speaker 5: That's a that's pretty decent. I will say he's gonna
Speaker 5: have a huge impact, gonna be a big determining factor
Speaker 5: in the outcome of the football game against the Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: Steelers because Pittsburgh's gonna test that calm. They're gonna see
Speaker 5: if they can rattle them a little bit. You know
Speaker 5: and hit them, pressure him, show him one thing in
Speaker 5: the back end coverage wise and being another and see
Speaker 5: if they can, you know, make him for a mistake
Speaker 5: by Joe Flacco that could be a factor in the
Speaker 5: football game. But I believe in Joe Flacco. I really do.
Speaker 5: I mean in talking to him in the locker room,
Speaker 5: that's how he is all the time. His demeanor is
Speaker 5: always the same. He's unflappable. It doesn't change. He's he's
Speaker 5: Joe calm.
Speaker 2: He is Joe Calm. And he's faced the Steelers a lot.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: He was in Baltimore for eleven years, facing him twice
Speaker 2: a year, and he's faced them since with teams. Just
Speaker 2: last year when he was with the Indianapolis Colts, they
Speaker 2: played the Steelers. Anthony Richardson started the game at quarterback.
Speaker 2: He got hurt with five point thirty to go in
Speaker 2: the first quarter. Joe Flacco led the Colts to a
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four win. So he's beaten the
Speaker 2: Steelers as recently as last year.
Speaker 5: That's all good. That's good news. And you know, Joe
Speaker 5: Flacco is a big guy man, six five to twenty
Speaker 5: five ish. Jiji Watas talked about that. You know how
Speaker 5: big a guy he is. He's hard to get on
Speaker 5: the ground, not because of his athletic ability to make
Speaker 5: him miss, run away from you and all that sort
Speaker 5: of thing, just that he's a big guy, big presidence
Speaker 5: in the pocket, big statue there in the pocket, and
Speaker 5: they kind of you kind of hit and slide off
Speaker 5: with Joe Flacco. I'm I'm expecting a big game from
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco. I think that if the Bengals win and
Speaker 5: they're decided underdog, they're what five and a half point dog,
Speaker 5: I think, And uh, you know, but if they can
Speaker 5: win that football game, it's gonna be because Joe Burrow
Speaker 5: had himself big game.
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, whisha was Joe burgh me too? To wait
Speaker 2: until December for that'd be great. So looking at the
Speaker 2: other side, the Pittsburgh Steelers are twenty ninth in yards offensively,
Speaker 2: they aren't scoring a ton of points, and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: is not being used like he was used in his
Speaker 2: glory days in Green Bay. He's averaging about two hundred
Speaker 2: passing yards a game. It's not throwing it a ton,
Speaker 2: but his passer rating is one oh five. He's taking
Speaker 2: care of the ball He's got ten touchdowns, three interceptions,
Speaker 2: avoiding sacks. He's only been sacked nine times. He's giving
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh the best play that it's had at the quarterback
Speaker 2: position since maybe three years before Ben Roethlisberger retired.
Speaker 5: I agree. I think he's giving Pittsburgh their best chance
Speaker 5: to win on a consistent basis in a while he's there.
Speaker 5: They're he's minimizing mistakes. You know, he's offensive. That's been
Speaker 5: a problem for the Steelers when they have lost football games.
Speaker 5: It's the offense is self destructive. The offense has made
Speaker 5: too many grave errors, too many big mistakes. Uh. He is.
Speaker 5: He's making sure that that's not the case. And then
Speaker 5: he's saying, you know, let's let's run the football, let's
Speaker 5: play good, solid defense, and let's win special teams to
Speaker 5: win field position. You're right, he's turnover adverse. He will
Speaker 5: not give the football up. He's going to put it
Speaker 5: away in the pocket protected, He's not going to throw
Speaker 5: into h questionable coverages that might turn out disastrous for
Speaker 5: his football team. He's playing a very very good brand
Speaker 5: of football. And like one of our fans here just
Speaker 5: uh said when we were talking earlier, he said, Joe Flacco.
Speaker 5: He's unflackable.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: So you know that's pretty good. You got.
Speaker 2: We're not above stealing good material East No, we.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. That dog will hunt right there. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's a that's a good one. That's a that makes
Speaker 5: the week worthwhile, makes the show.
Speaker 2: Worth will we might bust it out Tomorrow. It's an
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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin ripped the Cleveland Browns for helping the Bengals
Speaker 2: this week. We'll talk about that next. This is the
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Speaker 2: all the Bengals fans came out to join us for
Speaker 2: tonight's show. Last week, when the Bengals traded for Joe Flacco,
Speaker 2: on this show and on our Friday show, you said,
Speaker 2: I can't believe the Cleveland Browns were willing to make
Speaker 2: a trade for a quarterback with the Bengals in the
Speaker 2: middle of a season. You couldn't believe it, and as
Speaker 2: it turns out, either could Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say this week.
Speaker 5: You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Speaker 13: Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
Speaker 13: because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
Speaker 13: quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
Speaker 13: day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
Speaker 13: But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 2: So Mike Tomlin taking shots at the Browns general manager
Speaker 2: Andrew Barry. I was surprised. Tomlin usually doesn't say anything
Speaker 2: too controversial. His news conference is leading up to a game,
Speaker 2: but that one obviously made headlines this week.
Speaker 5: May have to buy a ticket to the Cleveland Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: games this year. Those are gonna be battle.
Speaker 2: That's right, They'll have a rematch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got one left one to go. Uh. They
Speaker 5: hope they're gonna be again in the playoffs, but it
Speaker 5: ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen. I just I was.
Speaker 5: I was stunned for the same reasons I think that
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin was that. Okay, the Bengals are struggling, uh
Speaker 5: at the quarterback position, and it's really retarding the development
Speaker 5: of their offense in general. So they're in the market
Speaker 5: for a quarterback. The last place that Mike Tomlin, the
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers, other members of the AFC North expected the
Speaker 5: Bengals to they get some help was with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5: And when they when Pittsburgh did that, it shocked me.
Speaker 5: It stunned me. I know, the Rooneys and Mike Brown
Speaker 5: and UH and mister Rooney have a great relationship. It's competitive,
Speaker 5: you know, they'd like to rub each other's noses in
Speaker 5: it a little bit. Uh, and Rooney's done a little
Speaker 5: bit more than Mike Brown's been able to do. But
Speaker 5: for him to part ways with a proven quarterback for
Speaker 5: a number of years in the National Football League, that's
Speaker 5: put up good numbers. I mean, his numbers are fantastic.
Speaker 5: Really hell of a career. I'm not saying he's going
Speaker 5: to be in the Hall of Fame, but he has
Speaker 5: had a career that any professional football player would be
Speaker 5: proud of.
Speaker 2: And I know Flacco is heard some speculation from a
Speaker 2: reporter in Pittsburgh saying there might be a couple of
Speaker 2: other things involved here. One Mike Tomlin kind of sticking
Speaker 2: up for another coach in the division, maybe thinking that
Speaker 2: now Kevin Stefanski probably didn't appreciate that move all that much. Secondly,
Speaker 2: if you go back to this past offseason, the Steelers
Speaker 2: are trying to get a deal done with TJ. Watts, Right,
Speaker 2: the Browns make a deal for Miles Garrett far and
Speaker 2: beyond what any defensive end had ever received before. And hey,
Speaker 2: it's Miles Garrett. He deserves every penny. But it did
Speaker 2: drive the price for TJ. Watt way up and the
Speaker 2: Steelers eventually had to pay basically the same amount.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean they set
Speaker 5: the market with TJ. Watt, you know, And yeah, it
Speaker 5: could be it could be a little bit of restitution,
Speaker 5: get even, you know, kind of kind of mess with
Speaker 5: your plans a little bit. From an organizational standpoint, those
Speaker 5: are those are two very valid points right there. But
Speaker 5: all I know is as a Cincinnati Bengal fan, I'm
Speaker 5: glad for all of it.
Speaker 2: I'm happy.
Speaker 5: I'm happy to let them, let them fight and argue
Speaker 5: all they want and do things to aggravate and piss
Speaker 5: off the other one. All I know is I got
Speaker 5: Joe Flackle.
Speaker 2: So the Steelers roll into town tomorrow night with a
Speaker 2: four and one record. The Bengals are in second place
Speaker 2: in the division at two and four. The Ravens, with
Speaker 2: all of their injuries, are one in five. Cleveland Browns
Speaker 2: are also one in five, but there's still a little
Speaker 2: bit of a jury still out situation where the Steelers
Speaker 2: are concerned. They have two wins over teams that have
Speaker 2: winning records. One was New England. They're four and two,
Speaker 2: but New England fumbled four times in that game and
Speaker 2: also through an interception. So five giveaways helped the Steelers
Speaker 2: win that game. Their other win over a winning team
Speaker 2: was the Vikings that was in London, so Minnesota lost
Speaker 2: the home field advantage, which was significant. Against the Bengals,
Speaker 2: I still had Carson Wentz, so they didn't have their
Speaker 2: starting quarterback for that game, so a little bit of
Speaker 2: an asterisk situation for that victory. I spoke earlier today
Speaker 2: with Tim Benz, who covers the Pittsburgh Steelers. He is
Speaker 2: a sports writer and sportscaster in Pittsburgh. I asked him
Speaker 2: for his evaluation of really just how good the Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: Steelers are. Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 11: The offense is still very flawed for some of the
Speaker 11: reasons we pointed out. Statistically, I think they're like twenty
Speaker 11: fifth in passing, twenty ninth and rushing in twenty ninth
Speaker 11: overall or something like that.
Speaker 2: And they've gotten the.
Speaker 11: Points that they've gotten because they've got a great kicker
Speaker 11: who never misses unless the field slips out from underneath them.
Speaker 11: And they've got a really good red zone percentage, at
Speaker 11: least they did until they played Cleveland. That's why their
Speaker 11: points per game isn't so bad. The defense has been very,
Speaker 11: very opportunistic. I think it's best two games have been
Speaker 11: the last that they have played. I do think they
Speaker 11: deserve some credit for ball hunting and getting the ball
Speaker 11: free in New England more than they've gotten. That game
Speaker 11: was largely just characterized as the Patriots handing the ball
Speaker 11: over to the Steelers five times. They are to be faulted,
Speaker 11: but I think the Steelers are to be credited for
Speaker 11: creating those turnovers. They run, they hit, they get to
Speaker 11: the ball, they search the ball.
Speaker 14: They're good at it.
Speaker 11: So the defense is the biggest reason why they are
Speaker 11: where they are, even though the defense was really lousy
Speaker 11: in terms of yards allowed for the first three weeks.
Speaker 11: So you know, I think they are a byproduct of
Speaker 11: a lowering tide in the AFC. North has really risen
Speaker 11: their boats. That might be the case for the entire conference,
Speaker 11: in the entire league, because they've only played one divisional game,
Speaker 11: but where they sit in the division is because where
Speaker 11: everybody else is. They're pretty mediocre. But you know what,
Speaker 11: so is the rest of the NFL right now.
Speaker 2: So not exactly a raver review for a team that's
Speaker 2: four and one. Right when he talked about the turnovers,
Speaker 2: he's dead on. They're plus seven so far this year
Speaker 2: in the turn over ratio category.
Speaker 5: That's huge. I mean that that's the reason they're four
Speaker 5: and one. Period. I mean, that's that's it.
Speaker 11: You.
Speaker 5: Uh, you're plus six in the turnover department six times. Uh.
Speaker 5: You six different times during the course of the football
Speaker 5: games you've had an extra possession and you're taking one
Speaker 5: away from your opponent in that football game. That that's big. Uh.
Speaker 5: And honestly, to give the opponent fewer possessions working against
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, that's what they're all about. Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5: In my mind as a form player with the Bengals,
Speaker 5: when I think Pittsburgh, I think steel Curtin, I think
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh defense. I think Joe Green I think Earnie Fatz Holmes.
Speaker 5: You know, I think Dwight White, I think L C. Greenwood,
Speaker 5: Jack Ham, Jack Lambert, Andy Russell. You know. It's it's
Speaker 5: remarkable that they're historic from a franchise standpoint in terms
Speaker 5: of what they've done defensively. And Mike Tomlins a big
Speaker 5: believer in that, and he's he's got a coordinator that
Speaker 5: is on the same page as him and and they
Speaker 5: they put together tremendous defensive game plans. I mean, Arthur
Speaker 5: Smith does a phenomenal job of breaking tape down and
Speaker 5: they have such a big inventory to defense that they
Speaker 5: can utilize. And then they'll they'll they'll hone it down
Speaker 5: and and uh and and put together a package that's
Speaker 5: a perfect fit what the opposition offense is trying to
Speaker 5: do against him. It's worked for a lot of years
Speaker 5: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't think Tomlin's had a
Speaker 5: losing season that I can recall. I mean he may have, No,
Speaker 5: he's not, but I mean that's it's it's that that
Speaker 5: in in in today's National Football League. That alone is remarkable.
Speaker 2: So prior to the draft this year, the guy that
Speaker 2: I really wanted the Bengals to pick was a defensive
Speaker 2: lineman from Oregon named Derek Harmon. Yeah, they wound up
Speaker 2: selecting Shamar Stewart, and now that I've seen him, I'm
Speaker 2: happy they did. I think Shamar is gonna be awesome
Speaker 2: and he should play tomorrow night. It looks like he'll
Speaker 2: be back from his ankle injury tomorrow night. But the
Speaker 2: Steelers were the team that wound up with Derek Harmon.
Speaker 2: He was injured earlier. Now he's playing. Based on what's
Speaker 2: what I've seen, I think he's going to be a
Speaker 2: headache for years to come in the two times that
Speaker 2: the Bengals have to see him every year.
Speaker 5: I think Pittsburgh's very happy with him. There's no question
Speaker 5: that he's a contributor. And that's the thing is they
Speaker 5: have so many good players. I mean, it's like, gosh,
Speaker 5: when is it going to end? I mean, how deep
Speaker 5: is this roster. That's that's the sign of a solid
Speaker 5: organization and a really, really good football team is having
Speaker 5: a strong foundation, ownership, general manager, scouting department all in
Speaker 5: the same page, all making like decisions in agreeing ultimately
Speaker 5: agree on who to take in the draft on a
Speaker 5: round by round basis, who to approach and try to
Speaker 5: get signed in free agency. They just do a great
Speaker 5: job in Pittsburgh. It's an organization that a lot of
Speaker 5: franchises in the National Football League look up to and
Speaker 5: would like to be run.
Speaker 2: Like Cam Hayward is thirty six. He'll be in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame someday. TJ. Watt is thirty one. He'll
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame someday. Jalen Ramsey is
Speaker 2: thirty one. I guess he's certainly a candidate to be in.
Speaker 5: The Hall of Fame fid Chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in the Hall of Fame someday. Are those
Speaker 2: three guys at those ages still among the best players
Speaker 2: at their position or are they just still really good?
Speaker 5: I think they're still amongst the best. I really do.
Speaker 5: I mean, they got a lot of personal pride, They
Speaker 5: take care of themselves, they keep their bodies in great shape.
Speaker 5: I've been a Cam Hayward fan for a long time,
Speaker 5: so he is so consistent. I mean, if you put
Speaker 5: on tape of quote his best game and quote his
Speaker 5: worst game. In terms of performance statistics numbers, there's no different.
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy gives you the same effort every
Speaker 5: single snap, and that's what as a coach, that's what
Speaker 5: you look for. You look for somebody that is going
Speaker 5: to give you the same effort every single snap, something
Speaker 5: that you can count on when you're putting together a
Speaker 5: game plan. He's going to give effort, enthusiasm, excited to play.
Speaker 5: That's Cam Hayward and it's been that way for a
Speaker 5: long time. A decade and a half with the Pittsburgh Steelers, incredible,
Speaker 5: incredible football player. Everybody that I talked to in Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: over the years and have had many people comment on
Speaker 5: just an unbelievable guy all in human being. I mean,
Speaker 5: everybody loves Cam Hayward is. He's great with the community.
Speaker 5: He's made an impact and a difference in the community
Speaker 5: of Pittsburgh. He's the real deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the Walter Payton Man of the Year
Speaker 2: wide winner is either last year or the year before.
Speaker 2: I can't remember which, but yeah, he did win it
Speaker 2: one of the last two years. All Right, we're gonna
Speaker 2: take a time out when we come back. Rookie Barrett
Speaker 2: Carter has replaced Logan Wilson in the Bengals starting lineup
Speaker 2: at linebacker. We will hear from both of them next.
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Speaker 2: the injury report. The night before the Bengals take on
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steeler. Mikeasicki is out. He's gone on injured
Speaker 2: reserve with a pectoral injury that he suffered last week,
Speaker 2: so he's going to be out for at least four games.
Speaker 2: Also out for the game Tomorrow's Tanner Hudson Tanner cut
Speaker 2: the touchdown pass last week in the third quarter, but
Speaker 2: he suffered a concussion during the course of the game.
Speaker 2: He might have been back if it was a normal week,
Speaker 2: but since it's the Thursday, he has not cleared concussion protocol.
Speaker 2: He is out. In the questionable category, you have Trey
Speaker 2: Hendrickson who has not practiced this week, Charlie Jones who's
Speaker 2: been limited with sore ribs, and Lucas Patrick who has
Speaker 2: not returned yet from the calf injury that he suffered
Speaker 2: in Week one. He has been practicing but hasn't been
Speaker 2: put back on the roster yet. I did not say
Speaker 2: the name Chamar Stewart, so we can look forward to
Speaker 2: having Shamar Stewart back for the first time since Week two.
Speaker 5: Well, I hope he can play some tight end. That
Speaker 5: tight end position has gotten hammered. I mean they're in
Speaker 5: trouble with the tight end, Packagers, they're going to have
Speaker 5: to uh probably work around that a little bit. That's
Speaker 5: also a blow to Joe Flacco because as a veteran
Speaker 5: quarterback like he is, Aaron Rodgers saying, those guys know
Speaker 5: how to utilize the tight end, know how to check
Speaker 5: down to the tight end. Tight Ends the final option,
Speaker 5: uh in the progression, get the ball in the middle
Speaker 5: of the field to the tight end. So having that
Speaker 5: position group depleted the way it is is a blow
Speaker 5: really for this game.
Speaker 2: So at the beginning of last week's game against the
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, I'll admit to being a little bit
Speaker 2: surprised when the Bengals took the field on defense they
Speaker 2: had two rookies starting at linebacker. Now, obviously Dimitrius Knight
Speaker 2: was no surprise, he's been a starter from the first
Speaker 2: nap of the year against Cleveland. But Logan Wilson was out,
Speaker 2: Barrett Carter was in. Zach Taylor was asked about it
Speaker 2: after the game, and he more or less said, Hey,
Speaker 2: we think that Barrett Carter is earned the opportunity to
Speaker 2: play more and to start. We think he can give
Speaker 2: us a spark. We want to see those two young
Speaker 2: guys develop and unfortunately for Logan Wilson that meant he
Speaker 2: was in a very limited role in last week's game
Speaker 2: against Green Bay. And apparently that's going to be the
Speaker 2: case tomorrow. It is going to be Carter and Night
Speaker 2: as the Bengals starting linebackers. Let's hear from Logan Wilson,
Speaker 2: I'm no longer being in the starting lineup and the
Speaker 2: rookie that has replaced him, at least for now, Parrot Carter.
Speaker 15: You know, I put my arm around and I told him,
Speaker 15: I said, there's gonna be no hard feelings between us.
Speaker 15: Just know that, like, I'm not going to change who
Speaker 15: I am. I still want to help you out. I
Speaker 15: know I've played a lot of football and there's things
Speaker 15: I can still pour into you. And I told myself
Speaker 15: I was not going to change who I am because
Speaker 15: of a time of adversity in my life. And you know,
Speaker 15: whenever my career is done, like look back at this
Speaker 15: time of adversity and be able to tell my kids
Speaker 15: how to how to get through, how to work through
Speaker 15: adversity like this, and so that that's what I'll be
Speaker 15: most proud of.
Speaker 5: By the end of the day.
Speaker 15: I'm still gonna work to continue to get better and
Speaker 15: just continue to support him as best as I can,
Speaker 15: because that's what a good teammate would do.
Speaker 2: He's been nothing but helpful.
Speaker 12: Like for me, just I still lean on him every
Speaker 12: single day, and I still will continue to lean on
Speaker 12: him every single day no matter what the coach decides
Speaker 12: to do. It's not it's not up to me, it's
Speaker 12: not up to him. But we both we both love
Speaker 12: each other, we both go to war with each other.
Speaker 2: So you could hear why Logan Wilson's a captain on
Speaker 2: this team, a first class response. That's something that has
Speaker 2: to be very tough for him. Here's why it surprised me,
Speaker 2: Lap and I could be way off on this. I
Speaker 2: didn't think Logan Wilson was playing that badly. I mean,
Speaker 2: he wasn't playing great. He hasn't come up with big plays,
Speaker 2: made interceptions, stuff like that. But he seemed like he
Speaker 2: was playing solidly to me. So that's why I was
Speaker 2: caught off guard.
Speaker 5: I'm with you, man, I'm with your partner. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think, honestly, the Bengals football team has bigger problems
Speaker 5: than Logan Wilson. I mean, guys are playing less effectively
Speaker 5: less efficiently than Logan Wilson was I think in the
Speaker 5: in the uh, you know, five game stretch that he
Speaker 5: was playing in. I do think though he still will
Speaker 5: be involved when they go to their four to three defense,
Speaker 5: when they go for four down line and three backers
Speaker 5: four dbs, He'll he'll probably be one of the linebackers
Speaker 5: in that rotation when they go five to four, though
Speaker 5: he won't you know, it's going to be the young guys,
Speaker 5: so he'll he'll get less snaps. I'm not sure how
Speaker 5: many steps he will get. I don't know. Al Golden
Speaker 5: is going to be obviously mixing and matching those two
Speaker 5: configurations against the opponent based on what the opponent does
Speaker 5: offensively and where their strengths are with with position groups
Speaker 5: in their respective offenses. So I think, I do think
Speaker 5: we have not seen the last of Logan Wilson, but
Speaker 5: he isn't a diminished role. And I do agree with
Speaker 5: you class Act. I mean, he could not have handled
Speaker 5: it any better.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 5: It's it's basically Zach Taylor should take that tape of
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson being talked to in the locker room about
Speaker 5: his quote new role and and keep it in a
Speaker 5: year after year say here's how you handle when things
Speaker 5: don't go your way, Here's how you step up, and
Speaker 5: here's how you become a professional. You know, there's there's
Speaker 5: things you can do physically, you know, strength, wise, speed
Speaker 5: and all that sort of thing, but emotionally, mentally, all
Speaker 5: those things are important to and Logan Wilson's are pros
Speaker 5: pro in that regard.
Speaker 2: We talked about this after the Bengals extended the contracts
Speaker 2: of Jamar Chase and t Higgins. With the amount of
Speaker 2: money they're spending on their quarterback and their top two
Speaker 2: wide receivers in a salary cap league, it's just a
Speaker 2: fact that they're going to have to be young and
Speaker 2: keeap on defense or cheaper.
Speaker 5: Not cheap.
Speaker 2: Guys make a lot of money, but younger and cheaper.
Speaker 2: Do you view this as we need to develop these
Speaker 2: young guys that we've invested draft capital on because that's
Speaker 2: going to be the key going forward with the amount
Speaker 2: of money we're spending on offense.
Speaker 5: I think that's another valid solid point by you, my man.
Speaker 5: You know football, and you know you've been around the
Speaker 5: National Football League and college football for a while. You
Speaker 5: know how it works, and it is. I mean, you
Speaker 5: can't give you can't pay everybody. You can't pay everybody
Speaker 5: the amount of money that they're looking to be paid.
Speaker 5: It's just not going to be the case. And you
Speaker 5: have to decide, you know, what position group, what people
Speaker 5: in that position group are going to be the ones
Speaker 5: that you look to to make the biggest contributions on
Speaker 5: a week to week basis, and take care of those
Speaker 5: people first. And we've already seen what the pecking order is.
Speaker 5: And they spend a lot of money on quarterback and
Speaker 5: the wide receiver positions for sure. That's the two biggest
Speaker 5: expenditures from a positional standpoint, you know, on the football
Speaker 5: team right now. So we'll see how it pans out.
Speaker 5: You'll see how it pans out. I mean, all I
Speaker 5: know is the worm has to turn. They cannot continue
Speaker 5: to play the title to the Inconsistency is in my mind,
Speaker 5: the biggest problem that they're they're demonstrating right now. They
Speaker 5: just on a snap by snap basis, it's not up
Speaker 5: to snuff, it's not good enough. All the coaches feel
Speaker 5: that way. They have to be more consistent on a
Speaker 5: snap by snap basis. In the AFC North, in the
Speaker 5: AFC in general to be competitive.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, the Bengals highest graded offensive lineman per
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus last week is not expected to be
Speaker 2: in the starting lineup tomorrow night. We're gonna hear from
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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals Game
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Speaker 2: to Enjoy. We are live at the MVP Sports Bar
Speaker 2: and Grill appreciate the Bengals fans came out to be
Speaker 2: part of the show tonight. Got to see Sam Hubbard
Speaker 2: in the first hour of the show, which is really cool.
Speaker 2: Great guy, and he is going to be involved periodically
Speaker 2: on our Friday show going forward, so we looked forward
Speaker 2: to that. At the beginning of the year, the Bengals
Speaker 2: starting right guard was Lucas Patrick. He suffered a calf
Speaker 2: injury in Week one. He was replaced by Dalton Reisner,
Speaker 2: who had just joined the team and played really well
Speaker 2: in that first game against Cleveland. So then Dalton took
Speaker 2: over as the starting right guard and did not play
Speaker 2: very well for a couple of weeks, he got replaced
Speaker 2: by rookie Jalen Rivers, who has been starting at right
Speaker 2: guard ever since. However, in last week's game, Dylan Fairchild,
Speaker 2: who had been starting at left guard, had to miss
Speaker 2: the game because of a knee injury. Dalton Reisner wound
Speaker 2: up moving back into the starting lineup on the other side,
Speaker 2: started at left guard and played really well. He was
Speaker 2: the highest graded offensive lineman in last week's game according
Speaker 2: to Pro Football Focus. Now, Dylan Fairchild is healthy again
Speaker 2: right He's been a full participant in practice this week.
Speaker 2: I would expect that he'll be back in the starting
Speaker 2: lineup tomorrow night against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Dalton Reisner
Speaker 2: would go back to the bench. I spoke to Dalton
Speaker 2: Reisner this week.
Speaker 16: Week two and three weren't weren't weren't the same, and
Speaker 16: I lost myself by spot because of it, And you.
Speaker 5: Know, that's a that's a tough deal. But in the NFL,
Speaker 5: that's how.
Speaker 16: It works is you expect to perform at a high
Speaker 16: level at all times. And I didn't perform up to
Speaker 16: my standard or the standard that I'm sure the Bengals
Speaker 16: expected as me. In Week two and Week three, so
Speaker 16: I've been doing nothing but zero pouting and one hundred
Speaker 16: percent of getting myself right to be ready when called upon.
Speaker 16: And I was called upon last week, and I'm just
Speaker 16: so grateful that I had the opportunity to play against
Speaker 16: the Packers, play at left guard and perform the way
Speaker 16: I did. And now it's the same mindset every single week,
Speaker 16: every single day.
Speaker 5: How can I be better? Win called upon? For this team?
Speaker 2: Rookies have been starting at those guard spots. I know
Speaker 2: you obviously want to play, but what do you think
Speaker 2: of Dylan Fairchild and Jalen Rivers and the way that
Speaker 2: they are learning on the fly?
Speaker 16: I think that they're doing a great job. Jalen and
Speaker 16: Dylan are, first of all, such great young men. I
Speaker 16: really respect the way that they attack their work, the
Speaker 16: way that they come in here and want to be great.
Speaker 16: I think the Bengals found some great dudes in those guys,
Speaker 16: some guys that can make a living and in this
Speaker 16: league for a very long time. So nothing but great
Speaker 16: things to say about them off the field, and when
Speaker 16: it comes to on the field, man, these guys are
Speaker 16: pretty they love to work hard, they're acceptable to coaching,
Speaker 16: they want to be better, They come in every single
Speaker 16: day and they attack their work, and they're super talented.
Speaker 16: So they got nothing but sky's limit for them.
Speaker 2: That's for sure, all right, Lap, We talked about it
Speaker 2: in the last segment. Two rookies are going to start
Speaker 2: at linebacker tomorrow night. Two rookies are going to start
Speaker 2: it in all likelihood tomorrow night. We're also going to
Speaker 2: see a lot of Shamar Stewart, whether he starts or not.
Speaker 2: That's five guys drafted in this year's class that are
Speaker 2: being counted on heavily in week seven.
Speaker 5: And and two of them are the inside linebackers and
Speaker 5: two of them the guards. I mean, that's the core,
Speaker 5: the foundation of the interior of your offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 5: And uh and in configurations front seven defensively, two rookie
Speaker 5: inside backers, that's uh, that's gutsy, that's that's that's making
Speaker 5: a a very very you know, could be second guest
Speaker 5: decision on the part of Al Golden.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then with the offensive line, same deal. Two rookie
Speaker 5: our guards. Before I get too far into this though,
Speaker 5: how about Dalton Reisner. How about a guy who I'll
Speaker 5: take as many Dalton rivesters as I can get because
Speaker 5: like that guy. I mean, all he did was talk
Speaker 5: as a team player. It's not about Dalton Risen there too.
Speaker 2: I was not good in weeks two and three, more
Speaker 2: or less saying I deserved to be replaced. But I'm
Speaker 2: busting my tail to try to get back out there
Speaker 2: and play.
Speaker 5: And the guy who's been in the league for the
Speaker 5: length of time that he's been in the league, to
Speaker 5: have that approach, that attitude, that work ethic, that mindset
Speaker 5: is contagious. Hopefully it's contagious to the to the young players.
Speaker 5: And and you know, because they can. I remember as
Speaker 5: a rookie, you know, Paul Brown saying to me, look,
Speaker 5: we're gonna play you. You're gonna get in a rotation.
Speaker 5: You probably play more as the season goes along, because
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have confidence that you'll have a better idea
Speaker 5: what the hell you're doing, to be quite blunt, and
Speaker 5: and he was right, he was right. And all these
Speaker 5: guys are going to improve. Riisner is going to improve.
Speaker 5: He's he's probably more comfortable than the rookies are at
Speaker 5: this stage in terms of going out there and being
Speaker 5: not overwhelmed. That's probably too strong a word, but you know, uncomfortable, uncertain,
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, is to what you're looking
Speaker 5: at and how it's gonna be a different picture of
Speaker 5: pre snap post snap looks can have two different photographs totally,
Speaker 5: you know. I mean it's like, man, what the heck?
Speaker 5: How did he get from there to there so fast?
Speaker 5: How did he move that quickly? I know I didn't
Speaker 5: close my eyes, So what the hell happened out there?
Speaker 5: But Reisner, I think to have to have a guy
Speaker 5: like him that could provide in worst case scenario death
Speaker 5: at multiple positions in your offensive line at garden and
Speaker 5: tackling the center potentially. I mean, he could, he could
Speaker 5: do it all. He could, He could, he could play anywhere.
Speaker 5: The Bengals organization, you know, ownership, general manager, scouting department,
Speaker 5: they did a good job in evaluating talent, I think,
Speaker 5: And uh, we'll see how it pens.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take our final time out when
Speaker 2: we come back. Is this a must win? Well? Here, well,
Speaker 2: here what Jamar has the Chase has to say about
Speaker 2: that question? When we come back. It's the Bengals Game
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame head coach Marv Levy, the former Buffalo
Speaker 2: Bill's head coach, was once asked about an upcoming game
Speaker 2: and a reporter asked him, is this a must win game?
Speaker 2: Marv Levy said, World War Two was must win. This
Speaker 2: is just a football game, but tomorrow night's game is huge.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase yesterday was asked if it's must win. Here's
Speaker 2: what he had to say.
Speaker 14: Five years have been here, I've been here every week.
Speaker 14: Something that y'all say a lot out here, you know.
Speaker 14: I mean, at the end of the day, we know
Speaker 14: we gotta win certain games. We know we gotta be
Speaker 14: division teams for us to put ourselves in position to
Speaker 14: be number one in the division. But you know, at
Speaker 14: the end of the day, we got to actually put
Speaker 14: the work in and do it when it's game zone.
Speaker 2: So Jamar is right. About five times a year somebody
Speaker 2: calls it a must win game, and technically speaking, it's not.
Speaker 2: We have no idea. What's going to happen after tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It's football, you know, Ravens are one in five and
Speaker 2: have a million injuries, so strange stuff can happen. But
Speaker 2: I look at it more as not necessarily must win,
Speaker 2: but golden opportunity win it. You gain ground on the Steelers.
Speaker 2: You're two to zero in the division, You've got a
Speaker 2: head to head win against Pittsburgh in your pocket, and
Speaker 2: you got home games coming up against the winless Jets
Speaker 2: and the still kind of building Bears. It could be
Speaker 2: the start of a winning streak to get you to
Speaker 2: five and four going into your by Yeah.
Speaker 5: I look at it as vitally important. Yeah that's good,
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, It's like if it's if you lose
Speaker 5: the football game, what are you going to do? Pack
Speaker 5: up and go home and say the season's over. Now.
Speaker 5: You're not going to do that. You're going to, you know,
Speaker 5: get after it and go to work and try to
Speaker 5: come back and do it a little bit better and
Speaker 5: get a win the next week. But this game at
Speaker 5: home against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a division game at home,
Speaker 5: even a con game AFC American Football Conference game at home,
Speaker 5: is huge. You can't let those slip through your fingers.
Speaker 5: You got to go out there and put your best
Speaker 5: foot forward, put put the best performance you can do
Speaker 5: individually and collectively as a team on the football field
Speaker 5: that day. You know, must might be a little bit
Speaker 5: of a stretch, but vitally important.
Speaker 2: Vitally important is fair?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's going to be a vitally important win. Yes,
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, I'm gonna calling it. I'm with you, all right.
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