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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Horn with my partner in Pal, Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 2: We are live tonight at the MVP Sports Bar here

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Speaker 2: in Silver ten. This looks like a great place to

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Speaker 2: watch a game. Flat screens all over the place, a

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Speaker 2: long bar with a bunch of taps, plenty of seating,

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Speaker 2: lots of parking across the street. If you don't already

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Speaker 2: have plans to be at Paycorp Stadium tomorrow night, can't

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Speaker 2: get a ticket? Hopefully you still can, but in any case,

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Speaker 2: come here, MVP Sports Bar. Looks like this would be

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Speaker 2: a fun place to watch the Bengals beat the Steelers. Yes,

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night, put it on. It is going to happen

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. At midnight, the Pittsburgh Steelers will be four

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Speaker 2: and two. You heard it here? Yes, all right, we

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Speaker 2: are going to be here for the next two hours.

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Speaker 2: We have a very special guest who is with us

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Speaker 2: here in the first hour of the show. Rather than

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Speaker 2: simply introducing him, we're gonna turn the clock back. Ah

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Speaker 2: playoff game from a few years ago. Bengals and Ravens

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Speaker 2: game is tied the fourth quarter. Baltimore is inches away

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Speaker 2: from taking the lead, but it didn't happen, thanks too.

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Speaker 2: Arguably the greatest single play in Cincinnati Bengals history. Let's

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Speaker 2: hear Hord and Lapham screaming our heads up. Third down

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Speaker 2: in gold from the one hot sticks the ball out.

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Speaker 2: Bengals have the ball.

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Speaker 3: They are running it back Sam Hubbard with blockers behind him.

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Speaker 2: Hubbard of the Ravens forty, the thirty, the twenty, the.

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Speaker 4: Ten, the bum touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Bengals Tyler Huddley tried to extend the ball over the

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Speaker 3: goal line. It got poked away, Sam Hubbard scooped it

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Speaker 3: up and ran the length of the field for a

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Speaker 3: go ahead Bengals touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: Oh that was awesome. That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Forget about the call. The play was the greatest play

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Speaker 2: in franchise history. We're obviously joined tonight by the great

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Speaker 2: Sam Hubbard. So cool to see you again and have

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Speaker 2: you join us on the show for the first hour tonight.

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Speaker 2: Should we get you.

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Speaker 5: In oxygen masks?

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Speaker 2: Just from listening back to that, I feel pretty good.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what that was. That was great memories.

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Speaker 5: You know, they stir up in the memory bank when

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Speaker 5: play that and listen to that. A playoff game, score

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Speaker 5: a touchdown in a playoff game, you were a defensive

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Speaker 5: football player. You're you're alnman. You're up front, you're in

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Speaker 5: the trenches, you're working, you're working against offensive lineman all day, toiling, sweating.

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Speaker 5: What was it like to score touchdowns a defensive player.

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Speaker 2: In a playoff game? Ninety eight yards?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I mean it's awesome to be here today.

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Speaker 6: You said memories, I'm you know, walk in here and

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Speaker 6: sign a bunch of pictures. Take some picture pictures of people,

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Speaker 6: and every picture that they asked me to sign and

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Speaker 6: brought back a different memory, different great play.

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Speaker 5: From my career. And you know.

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Speaker 6: From rookie year to offensive plays to sacks and Houston

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Speaker 6: You know, the thing I remember the most is sitting

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Speaker 5: And you know, media is going crazy and.

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Speaker 6: Zach Taylor walks up to me, as I'm saying, there

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Speaker 6: It was maybe five minutes and he runs in and

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Speaker 6: you realize they're saying that's the greatest play in Bengals history,

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Speaker 6: and it's like the most vivid memory that I have.

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Speaker 5: I was like, wow, really that just happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really and I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 2: But in terms of a single play, I don't think

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Speaker 5: The thing that is impressive as a former Lignement is

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Speaker 5: And you I mean you, you were moving pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I run sprints after practice every day with Trey, and

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Speaker 5: Was happy with seventeen? Man, got me there. That's all

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Speaker 5: all that matter. I remember seeing you guys do those

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was after every practice, traded the paid off

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Speaker 6: you do it one after every practice?

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Speaker 2: What number play was that on the drive? Because it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was fourteen plays, But the only

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Speaker 6: it was a collective effort just to fight and scratching

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Speaker 5: Right, People forget that. That's how that locked up.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy, you know, so obviously remember that play,

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Speaker 2: But I also remember your reaction after the playoff win

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Speaker 2: You were just so overjoyed and proud to be part

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Speaker 6: Yeah, after the game, I was definitely happy er than most,

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Speaker 6: I think it was five years straight in the twenty tens.

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Speaker 5: We had to be the ones to get it done.

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Speaker 6: This was the year, and uh, you know, we were

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: After the game, I was running up to Joe. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: do you realize what we just did? We broke the curse?

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Speaker 6: And he was so nonchalant, like what We're like, we

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Speaker 2: So at his postgame news conference that night, it was

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Speaker 2: so blase. Yeah, it was good. If we play again

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Speaker 2: next week, right, matter of fact, very matter of fact.

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Speaker 5: So you're you're more high school Ohio State since Bengals

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Speaker 5: your other the Cincinnati Kidds Mike Thrikoke Trico said, what

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Speaker 5: what did it it mean for you to play your

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Speaker 6: You know, it was everything to me that first off,

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Speaker 6: getting drafted back to Cincinnati. You know, I was anticipating

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Speaker 6: I'm going to the Banks. Everyone was so excited, and

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Speaker 6: you win every game at Ohio State almost and you

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Speaker 6: know we've faced a lot of struggles. The whole staff

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Speaker 2: So lap played in Super Bowl sixteen, you played in

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty six. He can recall details to this day,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, not as much as the it's two

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Speaker 6: Ups to every play, it's just such a heightened time

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Speaker 2: My advice is to cut it off with about two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic up until then.

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Speaker 6: Man, that was a tough one to get over. But

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Speaker 6: what a run, What a magical time in the city.

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Speaker 6: I mean getting back from that game. We got back late,

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Speaker 5: But I told them.

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Speaker 6: But just the energy in the city was unbelievable all throughout.

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Speaker 5: What I remember what it was like in Super Bowl sixteen,

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Speaker 5: I think you know, he's very physical. I mean he

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's really important because you know,

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Speaker 6: if you're three deep, you know you have another basically

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Speaker 6: linebacker in the box right with their and strong safety

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Speaker 6: dropping down. But I was fortunate to have two of

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Speaker 6: the best safeties you know, I ever played with Von

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Speaker 6: Bell Jesse Bates, and we won a lot of game

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Speaker 6: with games with those guys, and they were the quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: of our defense. And I see that Jordan Battle and

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Speaker 6: Gino Stone are emerging. Jordan was, you know, just a

443
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Speaker 6: young guy a few years ago. You see his play elevating.

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Speaker 6: He's moving a lot faster, you know, anticipating things, communicating better.

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Speaker 6: We had a very young back end these last few years.

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Speaker 6: Replacing those guys that I mentioned. I think that they're

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Speaker 6: really coming into their own and going to be a

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Speaker 6: strength of this team for the games to come.

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Speaker 2: All right, we've got one more highlight. Bengals didn't score

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Speaker 2: in the first half, but they opened the second half

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Speaker 2: with a seventeen play touchdown. Let's hear how that drive ended.

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Speaker 2: Fourth down in goal. The Bengals line up to go

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Speaker 2: for it a little more than two yards away. Biggins

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Speaker 2: and Yosi Bosh out to the right, Hudson and Chase

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Speaker 2: out to the left. Pe Ryan in the backfield.

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Speaker 8: Flacco catches the shotgun, snap pump fakes throws into the

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Speaker 8: end zones caught in the back of the end zone

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Speaker 8: under the goalpost by Tanner Hudson.

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Speaker 2: What'd you see there?

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Speaker 6: That was just two veterans. You know, you got Flacco's

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Speaker 6: first game. You know, you're fourth down, You're you're throwing

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Speaker 6: to Tanner Hudson, who the play before had another fifteen

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Speaker 6: yard catch just to get him in this position. And

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Speaker 6: Tanner's played for seven teams, been in the league a

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Speaker 6: long time. I think he was in my class. And

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Speaker 6: obviously we all know how much football Flacco has played.

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Speaker 6: But when you have guys that have been around the

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Speaker 6: block that much and know what needs to get done,

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Speaker 6: they can really improvise. And I thought that was just

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Speaker 6: such a you know, impressive touchdown just to you know,

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Speaker 6: keep the game alive. And that's what Flacco does for

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Speaker 6: this team. He can really, you know, improvise. He can

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Speaker 6: make things happen, uh, see situations in the game, communicate,

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Speaker 6: you know, commanded huddle. He got there four days ago.

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Speaker 6: I was just so impressed with the pump fake and

476
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Speaker 6: doing whatever he needed. I was actually I think his

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Speaker 6: third read on the play, second or third read on

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Speaker 6: the fourth down on the coal line, so uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: they're staying alive. And I thought that, you know, we'll

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Speaker 6: see more comfortability from from those veterans and the and

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Speaker 6: the on the offense for the weeks to come.

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Speaker 5: You know the thing about that play that was impressed

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Speaker 5: to it's uh to create an extent like they did

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Speaker 5: when they've only been together for a short period of time,

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Speaker 5: you know, four days. Yeah, I mean like mental telepathy.

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Speaker 5: They were kind of like reading each other's mind and

487
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Speaker 5: like you said, the pump fake kind of triggered Tanner

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Speaker 5: Hudson to make that final move that that that broke

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Speaker 5: him open. And uh, that was that was a big play.

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Speaker 5: That was a that was a huge play. Tanner Hudson's

491
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Speaker 5: another guy that's a very intelligent football player. Is Yes, Yeah,

492
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Speaker 5: he won a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's an underrated block. Yeah he's he'll he'll get

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Speaker 6: after it. We definitely.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I still think Drew Sample is one of the best

497
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Speaker 6: blockers in the day. But uh, you know, all those

498
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Speaker 6: guys will do when they need to. Another guy I

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Speaker 6: can't wait to see back is Eric All.

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Speaker 5: He's He's he can really that's my guy. I can

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Speaker 5: see him back.

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Speaker 2: This segment was good. I think that worked out well,

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Speaker 2: real good. I love it. I think we've I think

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Speaker 2: we've stumbled into something.

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Speaker 5: This was excellent.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a time out. Sam was

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Speaker 2: the Ruler of the Jungle in the home opener. Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night's ruler of the Jungle is Andrew Whitworth. We'll hear

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Speaker 2: from Big Wit now. This is the Bengals Game Plan

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Speaker 2: Show presented by Big Light, live from the MVP Sports

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Speaker 2: Bar in Silverton here on ESPN fifteen thirty. We are

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Speaker 2: back at the MVP Sports Bar here in Silverton. It's

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Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by Bud Light. I'm

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Speaker 2: Dan Hord with Dave Lapham. Our special guest until seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock tonight is Sam Hubbard, former Bengals great Ohio state standout,

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Speaker 2: Molar High School legend. Speaking of Molar High School legends,

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Speaker 2: my longtime broadcast partner on UC football games, Jim Kelly,

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Speaker 2: passed away last weekend. Jim was a great football player

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Speaker 2: and track star at Molar High School. He also frequently

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Speaker 2: played music here at the MVP Sports Bar in Silverton

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Speaker 2: with his guitar. He would stand on the small stage

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Speaker 2: here and entertain everybody here. They are going to name

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Speaker 2: the small stage here Jim's hotter, which is awesome. So

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Speaker 2: thank you for the folks here at MVP Sports Bar.

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Speaker 2: That's good for honoring my friend Jim Kelly. I can't

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Speaker 2: tell you how much I appreciate that. All Right, Bengals

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Speaker 2: play the Steelers tomorrow night. As we mentioned, the ruler

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Speaker 2: of the jungle is going to be Andrew Whitworth. It's

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Speaker 2: a huge game for Cincinnati. It's a great opportunity. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers are four and one, but they don't have a

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Speaker 2: great win yet. They did beat the Patriots, but the

532
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Speaker 2: Patriots fumbled four times in that game. They dominated in

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Speaker 2: every other way, but they kind of handed it away

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Speaker 2: with the turnovers. There were five total turnovers in that game.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh still has to play the Packers, the Colts, the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: the Bills, the Lions. They've got two games late in

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Speaker 2: the season against Baltimore when Lamar will be back. You've

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Speaker 2: got to think they're going to come back to the

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Speaker 2: pack a little bit. If the Bengals could get a

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Speaker 2: head to head win tomorrow, it would be huge. Let's

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Speaker 2: hear from Andrew Whitworth, who's coming to town for Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 9: They look like that team that's just gonna take over

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Speaker 9: the AFC North this year and kind of have a

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Speaker 9: smooth run to win in this division. So if you

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Speaker 9: want to mess that up, you want to be the

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Speaker 9: guy who comes in and ruins that whole story, you know,

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Speaker 9: and you want to say there's still a lot of

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Speaker 9: promise left in the season. These are the kind of

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Speaker 9: games you got to rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 5: Last week you.

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Speaker 9: Rose the occasion in Green Bay, heck of a challenge,

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Speaker 9: all these things, you almost got it done. But this

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Speaker 9: week it's one of those that you have to get

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Speaker 9: it done. And so you know what, who can go

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Speaker 9: out and be the best burdens of ourselves, every gown,

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Speaker 9: our team. Let's go out and give it our absolute

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Speaker 9: best to really change the narrative of the rest of

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Speaker 9: our season.

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Speaker 5: Because you win that one, you will.

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Speaker 9: You'll change the way people are talking about you, You'll

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Speaker 9: change the way you believe in yourself, and you'll change

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Speaker 9: the vision you have for the rest of the season

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Speaker 9: and how it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: Sam, I'm not going to use the words must win,

565
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Speaker 2: because it's not. You never know what can happen from

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Speaker 2: here on in shoot. Aaron Rodgers could get hurt tomorrow

567
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Speaker 2: night I'm not wishing that on him, but things happen.

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Speaker 2: It's football, but it's obviously a pivotal game. If the

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Speaker 2: Bengals win tomorrow, they've got home games coming up against

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Speaker 2: the Jets and the Bears. They could put themselves really

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Speaker 2: right back in the thick of things with a win

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: And I think that you know, it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: an electric environment Thursday Night always is.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got the white Bengal.

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Speaker 6: I think they use that energy to their advantage and

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Speaker 6: you know, go all in.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is a it's not a must win game.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't like that phrase, but you know,

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Speaker 6: every AFC North game is essential, and uh, this is

582
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Speaker 6: their first opportunity to go against the Steelers this year.

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Speaker 6: It's a physical battle. I think that they, you know,

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Speaker 6: leave they got nothing to lose. You go out there,

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Speaker 6: you leave it all out at the table. You try

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Speaker 6: out physical and you're trying to run the ball, you

587
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Speaker 6: try and get some takeaways. Earlier, I remember playing Monday

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Speaker 6: Night against Big Ben and the Steelers in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 6: We were probably two and ten at that time, two

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Speaker 6: and eleven. We had you know, know nothing to play for.

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Speaker 6: They I think they.

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Speaker 5: Were Startlen eleven or two at the time.

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Speaker 6: We get an early takeaway early in that game, get

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Speaker 6: a pick, von Bell knocks out Juju Smith Schuster and

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Speaker 6: it was one of the best wins of my entire career.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: I had so much fun out there making plays, just

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Speaker 6: doing it for the guys that you're playing next to

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Speaker 6: and doing it for the city. So I think that

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Speaker 6: if they take that same approach and just you know,

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Speaker 6: let it fly, it could be a good night.

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Speaker 5: For the ben Us. I think it could be. It's

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be very interesting. I

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Speaker 5: think turnovers are going to be big. They are in

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Speaker 5: the in this football. Yeah, early on, establish your presence early,

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Speaker 5: you know, make some kind of a physical statement, whether

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Speaker 5: it's the guy you know turning making the turnover, turning

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Speaker 5: the football over with the interception, fumble, recovery or whatever

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Speaker 5: it might be. Or do a Sam Hubbin take that

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Speaker 5: turnover back to the house. That would be work, that

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Speaker 5: would be even better. But it is It's like every

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Speaker 5: every position group, every player in that position group has

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Speaker 5: to take it upon himself to to to bring it,

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Speaker 5: to bring it at the highest level possible. The physicality

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Speaker 5: part of that, the attention to detail, performing your role,

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Speaker 5: your your assignment to the to the utmost and like

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Speaker 5: you never have before on a on a regular basis,

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Speaker 5: play by play, snap by snap, quarter by quarter, half

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Speaker 5: by half, whatever. I mean, you just got to get

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Speaker 5: it done. No excuses, no excuses, football game whatsoever. You

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Speaker 5: just I mean, it's a division game. Division games are monstrous.

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Speaker 5: You're like, if you win, it's like a win and

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Speaker 5: a half. You know, you get a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a little bit of an edge there. So this one's big, man,

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Speaker 5: this one's monstrous.

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Speaker 6: I heard Flacco say something in his press conference about

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Speaker 6: you know, what do you say to teams that are

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Speaker 6: on a losing skid? And I thought it was really interesting, how,

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Speaker 6: you know, everyone's so focused on worrying about the criticisms

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Speaker 6: and if people are saying they're doing well and really,

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Speaker 6: in reality, you know, everyone's trying to do their own

632
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Speaker 6: part right. And I think that's a really contagious good

633
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Speaker 6: mindset for the team to take over. And he's obviously

634
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Speaker 6: been around the block, and I think that that'll be

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Speaker 6: a positive catalyst for him to not overthinking and not

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Speaker 6: be too worried about the analysis or the film critics

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Speaker 6: and just go out there and make some plays.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, you faced Aaron Rodgers eight years ago at

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Speaker 2: Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: What stood out Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we played him I think in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 6: and his ability to anticipate create. He was playing with

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Speaker 6: DeVante Adams at that time and they were playing like

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Speaker 6: backyard football, just drawing up plays and no matter how

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00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: many guys we try to cover, they always were one

646
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Speaker 6: step ahead. And you know, he's just seen so much football.

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Speaker 6: He's he's still you know, moving pretty good getting the

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Speaker 6: ball out. I don't think he wants to get hit

649
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Speaker 6: like he used to. But his arm is generational and

650
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Speaker 6: got the utmost respect for him and his his career.

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Speaker 6: And it's a challenge. It's a challenge to keep him

652
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Speaker 6: in the pocket. It's a challenge to disrupt his throwing

653
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Speaker 6: lanes and not let him feel comfortable back there. If

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Speaker 6: they get some hits on him early, you know, run

655
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Speaker 6: some games twisted up that could definitely, you know, make

656
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 6: him a little too anticipatory and not I want to

657
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 6: sit back there so comfortable.

658
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Speaker 5: And you make great points there. I mean, that's a

659
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Speaker 5: that's a good synopsis Scott to report there on on

660
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers for sure. I think the one thing about

661
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: him now too, is he's enjoying football again. Yeah. When

662
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 5: he was with the Jets in New York, it was

663
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Speaker 5: a chore for him. It didn't see like he was

664
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Speaker 5: having fun. I mean, this is a kid's game. It's

665
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: grown men playing a kids in for the first time ever,

666
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 5: you have two quarterbacks over forty years old playing against

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Speaker 5: each other and they're playing the most important position in

668
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Speaker 5: the kid's game. Yeah, so you know, go out and

669
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Speaker 5: enjoy it. Go out and have fun, man, you know,

670
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Speaker 5: don't let the weight of the world fall on your shoulders.

671
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's something that everybody would love to do,

672
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Speaker 5: and you're the chosen one. You're the one that's been

673
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Speaker 5: selected to go do it, So take full advantage of

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Speaker 5: it and have the best time of your life.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool that Joe Flacco is facing an older quarterback. Yes,

676
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: he's forty, and he's the young guy in this match.

677
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Speaker 5: Like it.

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Speaker 2: He was pretty good last week, that's for sure. Hopefully

679
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Speaker 2: his second half against Green Bay carries over for four

680
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Speaker 2: quarters tomorrow night. We're gonna take a time out when

681
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Speaker 2: we come back. We are going to listen back to

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Speaker 2: the final play of Sam Hubbard's NFL career. This is

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Speaker 2: the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by butt Light, Easy

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Speaker 2: to Drink, Easy to Enjoy, live from the MVP Sports

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Speaker 2: Bar in Silverton on ESPN fifteen thirty Borrow Night on

686
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Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football. It's the Bengals against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

687
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a white out. Bengals will have their

688
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Speaker 2: white Bengals uniforms on. The white helmet, the white jerseys,

689
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: the white pants. It's a great look. I don't know

690
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: if it's just me. You guys like look faster in

691
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: those unis. Did you feel differently when you wore those?

692
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, they always say white sox, white cleats. You can

693
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Speaker 6: look faster on films right to wear them as much?

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Speaker 10: Like?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Sam Hubbard is our guest for another

696
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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes or so here at the MVP Sports Bar

697
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Speaker 2: in Silverton. At the beginning of the show, we listened

698
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Speaker 2: back to the fumble in the jungle. That was actually

699
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Speaker 2: one of three touchdowns that Sam scored in his NFL career,

700
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Speaker 2: which is pretty unusual for a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: No doubt.

702
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: As a rookie, he scored on a fumble recovery against

703
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Speaker 2: the Dolphins. He's been signing pictures of that tonight. Several

704
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: people brought photos of that play. And then there was

705
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: the touchdown he scored in his final NFL game in

706
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Speaker 2: what turned out to be his final NFL play December

707
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Speaker 2: fifteenth last year in Nashville against the Tennessee Titans. Let's listen.

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Speaker 8: Back Burrow fakes a handoff, throws a pass.

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Speaker 4: Sam Hubbard with the catch, touchdown Bengals. Sam Hubbard raising

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Speaker 4: the football over his head and spiking at Gronk style

711
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Speaker 4: after the first catch.

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Speaker 2: How of his NFL career.

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Speaker 5: Sam Hubbard started his career at Moeler High School as

714
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Speaker 5: a tight end. Sam Hubbard is an athlete, Sam Hubbard.

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Speaker 5: That's a great fingertip catch.

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Speaker 2: It really was a heck of a catch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't like right into your chest. It

719
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: was pretty well defended and you had to grab like

720
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Speaker 2: the back half of the ball.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I know that that whole play. Coming to Fruition was

723
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 6: a season long process, you know. The I had a

724
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Speaker 6: conversation with Zach early in the year after a couple

725
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 6: of injuries. How we're gonna rotate some young guys and

726
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 6: play some more and I was gonna mentor them, and uh,

727
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: there was gonna be more ways that I could help

728
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: the team, and one of them was we needed a

729
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: third tight end because I think Eric had just gotten hurt.

730
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Speaker 6: So you know, we I was going in there for

731
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Speaker 6: a little bit of blocking and uh, obviously with the

732
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Speaker 6: goal one day to have a pass put in for us,

733
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Speaker 6: and we ran, you know, blocking play after blocking play,

734
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Speaker 6: and then one week the look was kind of there

735
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Speaker 6: for for us to have an opportunity. And that week

736
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 6: at practice, Joe grabbed me the side and said, if

737
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Speaker 6: we're gonna actually run this, you gotta do it full speed.

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Speaker 6: So we ran about ten corner routes at full speed

739
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Speaker 6: before practice. He threw a lasers at me and told me,

740
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Speaker 6: you know you're gonna have a guy on you. It's

741
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Speaker 6: gonna it's not gonna be an easy catch. And sure enough,

742
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Speaker 6: you know, shock that Zach called it on the third down,

743
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 6: and uh, I knew that getting out there, I had

744
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Speaker 6: to come.

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Speaker 5: Down with the ball.

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Speaker 6: Uh, and you know, the guy was.

747
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Speaker 5: On my shoulders. It was a perfectly thrown ball.

748
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Speaker 6: And under no circumstances, I was not gonna come down

749
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Speaker 6: with it, and uh, just what a great play, what

750
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 6: a great moment. I'm couldn't picture a better, better last

751
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 6: play in your career. Although it did cause an injury

752
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 6: and cut it short, but uh, I think Ted Carris

753
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: told me that was the coolest play he's ever ever

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Speaker 6: seen in person.

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Speaker 5: That meant a lot to me. So what a great moment.

756
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Speaker 5: What what did it mean for two guys that are

757
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 5: lifelong football friends. I mean, you and Joe Burrow played

758
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: football at Ohio State together, and you're you played tight

759
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 5: end at Ohio State and you were a good tight end,

760
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 5: ran solid roads, caught the football, excellent blocker. For you

761
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 5: guys to come to the National Football League in your

762
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: last game as a professional, you two guys took up

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Speaker 5: for a touchdown. It's almost like the football gods said,

764
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Speaker 5: this is the way it's going to be. This is

765
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Speaker 5: the way it's going to be for Sam Harbard in

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Speaker 5: this particular football game. What was what was it like

767
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 5: for you guys to execute that play together? I mean,

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00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 5: its unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: I asked Joe after the game for his jersey, and

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Speaker 6: a few months later I get a beautifully framed signs

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Speaker 6: with a special message from Joe.

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Speaker 5: Let's take sure of the play from Joe's sanatics hooked

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Speaker 5: it up.

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Speaker 6: It's the centerpiece of my basement, you know, one of

775
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: my most surprized possessions.

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00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, you can't even put it to words.

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00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 6: It's it's so special because you know, we've been through

778
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 6: so much of our years together, so much adversity.

779
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: Still to this day, you know, talk regularly.

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00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 6: And one of the best quarterbacks I think to ever play.

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00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 6: I agree, you know, that's that's doesn't come lately.

782
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Speaker 2: What kind of display do you have for the fumble

783
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: in the jungle.

784
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Speaker 6: It's actually in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I

785
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 6: got the cleats, I got the jersey, I got all everything.

786
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 5: About the football. The football is in the Pro Football

787
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: of Fame.

788
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 6: But on loan you can get it back, so I

789
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 6: think there as long as they want it.

790
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: But nice they don't want all happily take it back.

791
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah right, how about that though? What's what's that like

792
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 5: to have something in Canton? You know that that has

793
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 5: to be special.

794
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, if it's not, you know, my jersey or whatever

795
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 6: for being the Pro Football for Pro Football Hall of fame.

796
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 5: I'll take whatever I can get. There you go, I'm

797
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 5: worth I'm worth you. That'll work for me. All right.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take our final time out during this portion

799
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Speaker 2: of the show, while we still have Sam. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: come back and play America's favorite game show. Yes we

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00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: call it, No Your School. Five questions about Ohio State.

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00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Sam has to get at least three rights to be

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Speaker 2: a winner. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented

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Speaker 2: by bud Light. We're live at the MVP Sports Bar

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Speaker 2: here in Silverton at ESPN fifteen thirty. We are back

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Speaker 2: at the MVP Sports Bar and Grill here in Silverton.

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Speaker 2: Game Plan Show presented by bud Light. This place, by

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Speaker 2: the way, voted the best place to watch a Bengals

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Speaker 2: game in Cincinnati. That was in City Beat. So congratulations

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Speaker 2: night to the MVP Sports Bar and Grill. And if

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Speaker 2: it's the MVP Sports Bar and Grill here in Silverton

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Speaker 2: on Plainfield Road. All right, this is our last segment

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Speaker 2: with Sam Hubbard. We appreciate Sam's hour tonight and all

817
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: the autographs he's signed, a pictures he's taken. I know

818
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 2: Bengals fans really appreciate that. Final segment of the show

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00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: is called No Your School. Yes, five questions about Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: For a former Buckeye, you must get at least three

821
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: rights to be declared a winner. Are you ready, Sam Hubbert?

822
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 5: I'm ready.

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00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: Question number one, Ohio State had a different name when

824
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: it was founded in eighteen seventy. Gonna make this one

825
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: multiple choice. Is it a the Western Ohio Polytechnic School,

826
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Speaker 2: B Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College, or C the Buckeye Institute.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate the multiple choice I figured you might and

828
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Speaker 6: the three choices. I know they have an agricultural school

829
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Speaker 6: still of drive By.

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00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: The Buckeye Institute sounds pretty good, though, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 6: to go with to B.

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Speaker 2: B is correct, the Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College. You're

834
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Speaker 2: one for one. Question number two, Ohio State has seven

835
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Speaker 2: retired numbers. I would not expect anyone to know all seven.

836
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Speaker 2: Can you name two players who had their uniform number

837
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Speaker 2: retired at Ohio State. M Archie Griffin Archie is one.

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00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 5: Arch Moe Archie Griffin, Archie and Ray the brothers.

839
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Speaker 2: Did not have his number.

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00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: No, he did not know good player? Did the linebackers Spielman?

841
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: No, Chris Pielman did not.

842
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: Chris Bielman did not.

843
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint of the more recent ones.

844
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Speaker 2: There's another running back Eddie George is correct.

845
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: Good call.

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00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Forty five and twenty seven, I

847
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: believe were there Ohio State numbers.

848
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 5: Did Dan Wilkinson retire?

849
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Speaker 2: He did not. No such luck for big Daddy.

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Speaker 5: Daddy.

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00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: I think I'll buy everybody in the bar drink. If

852
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: you could name the other ones, it's not going to happen.

853
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: They are less Horvath, Vic Janowitz, Howard Cassidy, Chick Hoply,

854
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Speaker 2: and Bill Willis.

855
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 5: Howard, hap hop Along Cassidy.

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Speaker 2: Question number three, what is the name of the Ohio

857
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: State mascot? Correct? All right, you're three for three, so

858
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 2: now you just go for the perfect score. Question number four,

859
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Speaker 2: what legendary coach led Ohio State to its first national

860
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: championship in nineteen forty two?

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Speaker 6: Nineteen forty two, Yes, Wow. The answer is usually what

862
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: he hates for everything, not.

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Speaker 2: In this case, not that far back. I'll give you

864
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Speaker 2: a hint. I need Dave Lapham played for him. Not

865
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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty two.

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Speaker 5: No, no, not in forty two, Paul Paul Brown is correct.

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Speaker 2: Brown is correct.

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Speaker 5: He really I did not know.

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Speaker 2: Good nugget. Question number five, what does T B, D

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Speaker 2: B I T L stand.

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Speaker 5: For the best damn band in the land?

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Speaker 2: You got it? That is correct.

873
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Speaker 5: Those are good questions.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Wikipedia is a wonderful tool.

875
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Speaker 5: The best, the.

876
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Speaker 6: Best damn fans in the land in the best damn

877
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Speaker 6: band in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you I was a band geek. I

879
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Speaker 2: was in the high school band. Seeing Ohio State. The

880
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: eye is still one of the coolest things in sports here.

881
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Speaker 2: Is that very cool? It's really good. Sam Hubbard, thank

882
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: you so much for coming out and doing this. I

883
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: do want to tell folks again you will be doing

884
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Speaker 2: some stuff for the Bengals Weekly TV show and for

885
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Speaker 2: our Friday show, so we look forward to having you

886
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Speaker 2: make some appearances on our Friday show later this year.

887
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Speaker 2: But thank you so much for coming out tonight. I

888
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: know the fans loved it and really appreciate it. It's

889
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Speaker 2: here for Sam Hubbard.

890
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Speaker 5: Guys. You what, man, You're a class act, unbelievable human being.

891
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 5: Just a great guy and a credit to the community.

892
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Speaker 5: My man, Dave, you're too kind always, you're the best.

893
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Speaker 5: Appreciate you.

894
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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take a time out. We've

895
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Speaker 2: got an hour to go. The Bengals Game Plan Show

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham.

911
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: We've got the Bengals and Pittsburgh Steelers coming up tomorrow

912
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: night at pay Corp Stadium, Cincinnati. Looking to get back

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Speaker 2: into the thick of things in the AFC North. The

914
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Speaker 2: Bengals are two and four, the Steelers are four and one.

915
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has gotten off to a great start with Aaron

916
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Speaker 2: Rodgers at quarterback. With the Bengals are hoping that what

917
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Speaker 2: they sawt of Joe Flacco in the second half last

918
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Speaker 2: week is going to carry over to tomorrow night's game

919
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Speaker 2: against the Pittsburgh Steelers. In the first half last week,

920
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco eight for fifteen for forty yards, the Bengals

921
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Speaker 2: did not score. Didn't look very good. But then in

922
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Speaker 2: the second half, Lappy completed seventy percent of his passes.

923
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Speaker 2: He threw for one hundred and seventy nine yards. That would,

924
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously be more than three point fifty in

925
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Speaker 2: a full game, two touchdowns, no picks, passer rating of

926
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Speaker 2: one oh seven point five. The Bengals drove into scoring

927
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Speaker 2: position on every possession of the second half. If we

928
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Speaker 2: get that guy or something close to it for four

929
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Speaker 2: quarters tomorrow night, Bengals have a really good chance of it.

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Speaker 5: I agree, Dan, and I think that you know, the

931
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 5: way he finished that football game, he's used to as

932
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Speaker 5: a veteran player a carryover. You know, take that that

933
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 5: effort that he had in the second half in particular

934
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Speaker 5: that football game, and down the stretch of that football game,

935
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Speaker 5: study it. Look at the tait, see what the defenses

936
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Speaker 5: were doing to him, See what he was doing to

937
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Speaker 5: answer what the defenses were trying to take away from him,

938
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Speaker 5: and uh, and just carry it over to Pittsburgh. Uh.

939
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Speaker 5: And you know, Pittsburgh Steelers are gonna have plenty of

940
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Speaker 5: defense for him to figure out there they are. They

941
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Speaker 5: do it. They do a great job. Mike Tomlin is

942
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Speaker 5: a defensive oriented head coach. There's not a whole lot

943
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 5: of those in the National Football League. He is as

944
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Speaker 5: good as any with respect to his contributions to game

945
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Speaker 5: planning for the defensive football team Terror Austin defensive coordinator

946
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Speaker 5: is outstanding. He and Mike Tomlin are very uh symbionic.

947
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Speaker 5: They you know, one plus one equals three. They they've

948
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 5: they've really they feed off of each other and UH

949
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Speaker 5: their football team, particularly the defensive football team, but the

950
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Speaker 5: football team in general has a lot of confidence with

951
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Speaker 5: with those guys, UH and the entire coaching staff. Really

952
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 5: they do have a heck of a coach staff. The

953
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Speaker 5: Rooney family has been around for a long time. Pittsburgh

954
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Speaker 5: s Field has been around for a long time as well.

955
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Speaker 5: And you know, defensively, like I said, they've got Tara Austin. Offensively,

956
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith who is highly regarded, well renowned as an

957
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Speaker 5: offensive coordinator in the National Football League. Danny Smith along

958
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Speaker 5: with Darren Simmons, two of the best and longest tenured

959
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 5: especially teams coaches in all of football. That should be

960
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 5: an interesting matchup to watch those two try to determine

961
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Speaker 5: and dictate UH field percent field position advantages for their

962
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: respective teams. I think that's going to be a big

963
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Speaker 5: part of it when you when you have a game

964
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Speaker 5: like this, A lot of times these big division rivalries

965
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 5: come down to turnovers. Don't turn the football over, win

966
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Speaker 5: the turnover margin plus two plus three if you can,

967
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Speaker 5: and UH field position, and that's usually special teams driven

968
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Speaker 5: turnovers play a big part in it as well.

969
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: As a fellow Syracusan, a very graduate. Yes, I'm very

970
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Speaker 2: proud of the fact that you just dropped a symbiotic

971
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Speaker 2: on this show. That's a heck of a vocabulary word,

972
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Speaker 2: Dave Lapham, well done.

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Speaker 5: There you go all that reading.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mom Lapham. So, Joe Burrow is the man

975
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Speaker 2: of a thousand nicknames, Joe Burr, Joe Sisty, Joey Franchised,

976
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: Joe cool, et cetera. Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher might

977
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Speaker 2: have inadvertently come up with a great nickname for Joe

978
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: Flaco after that game against Green Bay. Here's Dan Pitcher

979
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: talking about his quarterback.

980
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Speaker 10: There's nothing that Joe hasn't seen or hasn't had to

981
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Speaker 10: prepare for, even being around the guy for six days now.

982
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Speaker 2: Or whatever it is.

983
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Speaker 10: There's a there's a calming element of that that goes

984
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 10: with him because of his professionalism and because of his experience.

985
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 10: It puts a coach at ease that there's nothing that's

986
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 10: gonna like jump out at him that is going to

987
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 10: rattle him.

988
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: You know. Obviously it's a challenge.

989
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 7: They're gonna make plays, and they're gonna make moving the

990
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 7: football and scoring hard, but it's not going to be

991
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 7: because necessarily they surprise Joe Flacco and that that's call me.

992
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: He's Joe calm instead of cool.

993
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 10: He's I can't say enough about him, never having really

994
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 10: interacted with him until last Tuesday. What he did last

995
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 10: week was was pretty remarkable and it's a testament to

996
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 10: professionalism and there's no substitute for experience.

997
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: Lap we've been around him now for a week. He

998
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: is Joe Calm. I think that's what he is. He

999
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: just still waters when you're around Joe Flaco.

1000
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean Dan Pitcher came up with something there.

1001
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 5: He is steady, Eddie, you know, I mean, nothing flusters

1002
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 5: the guy. He's cool, calm, collected, composed he is. He's

1003
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 5: Joe Calm. You get Joe cool and you got Joe

1004
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 5: Calm in the same same football team at the quarterback position.

1005
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 5: That's a that's pretty decent. I will say he's gonna

1006
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 5: have a huge impact, gonna be a big determining factor

1007
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 5: in the outcome of the football game against the Pittsburgh

1008
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 5: Steelers because Pittsburgh's gonna test that calm. They're gonna see

1009
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 5: if they can rattle them a little bit. You know

1010
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 5: and hit them, pressure him, show him one thing in

1011
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 5: the back end coverage wise and being another and see

1012
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: if they can, you know, make him for a mistake

1013
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 5: by Joe Flacco that could be a factor in the

1014
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: football game. But I believe in Joe Flacco. I really do.

1015
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: I mean in talking to him in the locker room,

1016
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: that's how he is all the time. His demeanor is

1017
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 5: always the same. He's unflappable. It doesn't change. He's he's

1018
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 5: Joe calm.

1019
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: He is Joe Calm. And he's faced the Steelers a lot.

1020
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 5: Yep.

1021
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: He was in Baltimore for eleven years, facing him twice

1022
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: a year, and he's faced them since with teams. Just

1023
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: last year when he was with the Indianapolis Colts, they

1024
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: played the Steelers. Anthony Richardson started the game at quarterback.

1025
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: He got hurt with five point thirty to go in

1026
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: the first quarter. Joe Flacco led the Colts to a

1027
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four win. So he's beaten the

1028
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: Steelers as recently as last year.

1029
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Speaker 5: That's all good. That's good news. And you know, Joe

1030
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 5: Flacco is a big guy man, six five to twenty

1031
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 5: five ish. Jiji Watas talked about that. You know how

1032
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 5: big a guy he is. He's hard to get on

1033
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 5: the ground, not because of his athletic ability to make

1034
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 5: him miss, run away from you and all that sort

1035
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 5: of thing, just that he's a big guy, big presidence

1036
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 5: in the pocket, big statue there in the pocket, and

1037
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 5: they kind of you kind of hit and slide off

1038
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 5: with Joe Flacco. I'm I'm expecting a big game from

1039
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 5: Joe Flacco. I think that if the Bengals win and

1040
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 5: they're decided underdog, they're what five and a half point dog,

1041
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 5: I think, And uh, you know, but if they can

1042
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: win that football game, it's gonna be because Joe Burrow

1043
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 5: had himself big game.

1044
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, whisha was Joe burgh me too? To wait

1045
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: until December for that'd be great. So looking at the

1046
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: other side, the Pittsburgh Steelers are twenty ninth in yards offensively,

1047
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: they aren't scoring a ton of points, and Aaron Rodgers

1048
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: is not being used like he was used in his

1049
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 2: glory days in Green Bay. He's averaging about two hundred

1050
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: passing yards a game. It's not throwing it a ton,

1051
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: but his passer rating is one oh five. He's taking

1052
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: care of the ball He's got ten touchdowns, three interceptions,

1053
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 2: avoiding sacks. He's only been sacked nine times. He's giving

1054
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh the best play that it's had at the quarterback

1055
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: position since maybe three years before Ben Roethlisberger retired.

1056
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 5: I agree. I think he's giving Pittsburgh their best chance

1057
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: to win on a consistent basis in a while he's there.

1058
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 5: They're he's minimizing mistakes. You know, he's offensive. That's been

1059
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 5: a problem for the Steelers when they have lost football games.

1060
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 5: It's the offense is self destructive. The offense has made

1061
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 5: too many grave errors, too many big mistakes. Uh. He is.

1062
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: He's making sure that that's not the case. And then

1063
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 5: he's saying, you know, let's let's run the football, let's

1064
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 5: play good, solid defense, and let's win special teams to

1065
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 5: win field position. You're right, he's turnover adverse. He will

1066
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 5: not give the football up. He's going to put it

1067
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 5: away in the pocket protected, He's not going to throw

1068
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 5: into h questionable coverages that might turn out disastrous for

1069
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 5: his football team. He's playing a very very good brand

1070
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 5: of football. And like one of our fans here just

1071
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 5: uh said when we were talking earlier, he said, Joe Flacco.

1072
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Speaker 5: He's unflackable.

1073
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 2: I like that.

1074
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 5: So you know that's pretty good. You got.

1075
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: We're not above stealing good material East No, we.

1076
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. That dog will hunt right there. I mean,

1077
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 5: that's a that's a good one. That's a that makes

1078
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 5: the week worthwhile, makes the show.

1079
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Speaker 2: Worth will we might bust it out Tomorrow. It's an

1080
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Speaker 2: eight fifteen game at pay Court Stadium, the White Bengal game.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin ripped the Cleveland Browns for helping the Bengals

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Speaker 2: this week. We'll talk about that next. This is the

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Speaker 2: all the Bengals fans came out to join us for

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Speaker 2: tonight's show. Last week, when the Bengals traded for Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 2: on this show and on our Friday show, you said,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe the Cleveland Browns were willing to make

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Speaker 2: a trade for a quarterback with the Bengals in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a season. You couldn't believe it, and as

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Speaker 2: it turns out, either could Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say this week.

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Speaker 5: You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

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Speaker 13: Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,

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Speaker 13: because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a

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00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 13: quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening

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Speaker 13: day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.

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Speaker 13: But that's just my personal feelings.

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Speaker 2: So Mike Tomlin taking shots at the Browns general manager

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Speaker 2: Andrew Barry. I was surprised. Tomlin usually doesn't say anything

1112
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: too controversial. His news conference is leading up to a game,

1113
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: but that one obviously made headlines this week.

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Speaker 5: May have to buy a ticket to the Cleveland Pittsburgh

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00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 5: games this year. Those are gonna be battle.

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Speaker 2: That's right, They'll have a rematch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they got one left one to go. Uh. They

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00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: hope they're gonna be again in the playoffs, but it

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Speaker 5: ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen. I just I was.

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Speaker 5: I was stunned for the same reasons I think that

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin was that. Okay, the Bengals are struggling, uh

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00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 5: at the quarterback position, and it's really retarding the development

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Speaker 5: of their offense in general. So they're in the market

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Speaker 5: for a quarterback. The last place that Mike Tomlin, the

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers, other members of the AFC North expected the

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Speaker 5: Bengals to they get some help was with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: And when they when Pittsburgh did that, it shocked me.

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Speaker 5: It stunned me. I know, the Rooneys and Mike Brown

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Speaker 5: and UH and mister Rooney have a great relationship. It's competitive,

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Speaker 5: you know, they'd like to rub each other's noses in

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00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 5: it a little bit. Uh, and Rooney's done a little

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Speaker 5: bit more than Mike Brown's been able to do. But

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Speaker 5: for him to part ways with a proven quarterback for

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Speaker 5: a number of years in the National Football League, that's

1135
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 5: put up good numbers. I mean, his numbers are fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Really hell of a career. I'm not saying he's going

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Speaker 5: to be in the Hall of Fame, but he has

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Speaker 5: had a career that any professional football player would be

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Speaker 5: proud of.

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Speaker 2: And I know Flacco is heard some speculation from a

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: reporter in Pittsburgh saying there might be a couple of

1142
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: other things involved here. One Mike Tomlin kind of sticking

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00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: up for another coach in the division, maybe thinking that

1144
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: now Kevin Stefanski probably didn't appreciate that move all that much. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: if you go back to this past offseason, the Steelers

1146
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: are trying to get a deal done with TJ. Watts, Right,

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01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: the Browns make a deal for Miles Garrett far and

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Speaker 2: beyond what any defensive end had ever received before. And hey,

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01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: it's Miles Garrett. He deserves every penny. But it did

1150
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Speaker 2: drive the price for TJ. Watt way up and the

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Speaker 2: Steelers eventually had to pay basically the same amount.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean they set

1153
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Speaker 5: the market with TJ. Watt, you know, And yeah, it

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 5: could be it could be a little bit of restitution,

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Speaker 5: get even, you know, kind of kind of mess with

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Speaker 5: your plans a little bit. From an organizational standpoint, those

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Speaker 5: are those are two very valid points right there. But

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Speaker 5: all I know is as a Cincinnati Bengal fan, I'm

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Speaker 5: glad for all of it.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to let them, let them fight and argue

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Speaker 5: all they want and do things to aggravate and piss

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Speaker 5: off the other one. All I know is I got

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Speaker 5: Joe Flackle.

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Speaker 2: So the Steelers roll into town tomorrow night with a

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Speaker 2: four and one record. The Bengals are in second place

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Speaker 2: in the division at two and four. The Ravens, with

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Speaker 2: all of their injuries, are one in five. Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: are also one in five, but there's still a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a jury still out situation where the Steelers

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01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 2: are concerned. They have two wins over teams that have

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Speaker 2: winning records. One was New England. They're four and two,

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Speaker 2: but New England fumbled four times in that game and

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Speaker 2: also through an interception. So five giveaways helped the Steelers

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Speaker 2: win that game. Their other win over a winning team

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01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: was the Vikings that was in London, so Minnesota lost

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Speaker 2: the home field advantage, which was significant. Against the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: I still had Carson Wentz, so they didn't have their

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback for that game, so a little bit of

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Speaker 2: an asterisk situation for that victory. I spoke earlier today

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Speaker 2: with Tim Benz, who covers the Pittsburgh Steelers. He is

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Speaker 2: a sports writer and sportscaster in Pittsburgh. I asked him

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Speaker 2: for his evaluation of really just how good the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Steelers are. Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 11: The offense is still very flawed for some of the

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Speaker 11: reasons we pointed out. Statistically, I think they're like twenty

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Speaker 11: fifth in passing, twenty ninth and rushing in twenty ninth

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Speaker 11: overall or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And they've gotten the.

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Speaker 11: Points that they've gotten because they've got a great kicker

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Speaker 11: who never misses unless the field slips out from underneath them.

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Speaker 11: And they've got a really good red zone percentage, at

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Speaker 11: least they did until they played Cleveland. That's why their

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Speaker 11: points per game isn't so bad. The defense has been very,

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Speaker 11: very opportunistic. I think it's best two games have been

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Speaker 11: the last that they have played. I do think they

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Speaker 11: deserve some credit for ball hunting and getting the ball

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Speaker 11: free in New England more than they've gotten. That game

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Speaker 11: was largely just characterized as the Patriots handing the ball

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Speaker 11: over to the Steelers five times. They are to be faulted,

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Speaker 11: but I think the Steelers are to be credited for

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Speaker 11: creating those turnovers. They run, they hit, they get to

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Speaker 11: the ball, they search the ball.

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Speaker 14: They're good at it.

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Speaker 11: So the defense is the biggest reason why they are

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Speaker 11: where they are, even though the defense was really lousy

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Speaker 11: in terms of yards allowed for the first three weeks.

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Speaker 11: So you know, I think they are a byproduct of

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Speaker 11: a lowering tide in the AFC. North has really risen

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Speaker 11: their boats. That might be the case for the entire conference,

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Speaker 11: in the entire league, because they've only played one divisional game,

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Speaker 11: but where they sit in the division is because where

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Speaker 11: everybody else is. They're pretty mediocre. But you know what,

1214
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Speaker 11: so is the rest of the NFL right now.

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Speaker 2: So not exactly a raver review for a team that's

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Speaker 2: four and one. Right when he talked about the turnovers,

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Speaker 2: he's dead on. They're plus seven so far this year

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Speaker 2: in the turn over ratio category.

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Speaker 5: That's huge. I mean that that's the reason they're four

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Speaker 5: and one. Period. I mean, that's that's it.

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Speaker 11: You.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you're plus six in the turnover department six times. Uh.

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Speaker 5: You six different times during the course of the football

1224
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Speaker 5: games you've had an extra possession and you're taking one

1225
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 5: away from your opponent in that football game. That that's big. Uh.

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Speaker 5: And honestly, to give the opponent fewer possessions working against

1227
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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, that's what they're all about. Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: In my mind as a form player with the Bengals,

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Speaker 5: when I think Pittsburgh, I think steel Curtin, I think

1230
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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh defense. I think Joe Green I think Earnie Fatz Holmes.

1231
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Speaker 5: You know, I think Dwight White, I think L C. Greenwood,

1232
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 5: Jack Ham, Jack Lambert, Andy Russell. You know. It's it's

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01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 5: remarkable that they're historic from a franchise standpoint in terms

1234
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 5: of what they've done defensively. And Mike Tomlins a big

1235
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 5: believer in that, and he's he's got a coordinator that

1236
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 5: is on the same page as him and and they

1237
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 5: they put together tremendous defensive game plans. I mean, Arthur

1238
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 5: Smith does a phenomenal job of breaking tape down and

1239
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 5: they have such a big inventory to defense that they

1240
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 5: can utilize. And then they'll they'll they'll hone it down

1241
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 5: and and uh and and put together a package that's

1242
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 5: a perfect fit what the opposition offense is trying to

1243
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 5: do against him. It's worked for a lot of years

1244
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 5: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't think Tomlin's had a

1245
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: losing season that I can recall. I mean he may have, No,

1246
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 5: he's not, but I mean that's it's it's that that

1247
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: in in in today's National Football League. That alone is remarkable.

1248
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: So prior to the draft this year, the guy that

1249
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: I really wanted the Bengals to pick was a defensive

1250
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: lineman from Oregon named Derek Harmon. Yeah, they wound up

1251
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: selecting Shamar Stewart, and now that I've seen him, I'm

1252
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: happy they did. I think Shamar is gonna be awesome

1253
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: and he should play tomorrow night. It looks like he'll

1254
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: be back from his ankle injury tomorrow night. But the

1255
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: Steelers were the team that wound up with Derek Harmon.

1256
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: He was injured earlier. Now he's playing. Based on what's

1257
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: what I've seen, I think he's going to be a

1258
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: headache for years to come in the two times that

1259
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: the Bengals have to see him every year.

1260
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 5: I think Pittsburgh's very happy with him. There's no question

1261
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 5: that he's a contributor. And that's the thing is they

1262
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 5: have so many good players. I mean, it's like, gosh,

1263
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,479
Speaker 5: when is it going to end? I mean, how deep

1264
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 5: is this roster. That's that's the sign of a solid

1265
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: organization and a really, really good football team is having

1266
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: a strong foundation, ownership, general manager, scouting department all in

1267
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 5: the same page, all making like decisions in agreeing ultimately

1268
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 5: agree on who to take in the draft on a

1269
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 5: round by round basis, who to approach and try to

1270
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 5: get signed in free agency. They just do a great

1271
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 5: job in Pittsburgh. It's an organization that a lot of

1272
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 5: franchises in the National Football League look up to and

1273
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 5: would like to be run.

1274
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Speaker 2: Like Cam Hayward is thirty six. He'll be in the

1275
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame someday. TJ. Watt is thirty one. He'll

1276
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame someday. Jalen Ramsey is

1277
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: thirty one. I guess he's certainly a candidate to be in.

1278
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 5: The Hall of Fame fid Chance.

1279
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in the Hall of Fame someday. Are those

1280
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: three guys at those ages still among the best players

1281
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 2: at their position or are they just still really good?

1282
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 5: I think they're still amongst the best. I really do.

1283
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 5: I mean, they got a lot of personal pride, They

1284
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 5: take care of themselves, they keep their bodies in great shape.

1285
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 5: I've been a Cam Hayward fan for a long time,

1286
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 5: so he is so consistent. I mean, if you put

1287
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 5: on tape of quote his best game and quote his

1288
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 5: worst game. In terms of performance statistics numbers, there's no different.

1289
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy gives you the same effort every

1290
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 5: single snap, and that's what as a coach, that's what

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Speaker 5: you look for. You look for somebody that is going

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Speaker 5: to give you the same effort every single snap, something

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Speaker 5: that you can count on when you're putting together a

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Speaker 5: game plan. He's going to give effort, enthusiasm, excited to play.

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Speaker 5: That's Cam Hayward and it's been that way for a

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Speaker 5: long time. A decade and a half with the Pittsburgh Steelers, incredible,

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Speaker 5: incredible football player. Everybody that I talked to in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: over the years and have had many people comment on

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Speaker 5: just an unbelievable guy all in human being. I mean,

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Speaker 5: everybody loves Cam Hayward is. He's great with the community.

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Speaker 5: He's made an impact and a difference in the community

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Speaker 5: of Pittsburgh. He's the real deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the Walter Payton Man of the Year

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Speaker 2: wide winner is either last year or the year before.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember which, but yeah, he did win it

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Speaker 2: one of the last two years. All Right, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: take a time out when we come back. Rookie Barrett

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Speaker 2: Carter has replaced Logan Wilson in the Bengals starting lineup

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Speaker 2: at linebacker. We will hear from both of them next.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by

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Speaker 2: bud Light, live from the MVP Sports Bar and Grill

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Speaker 2: here in Silverton, on ESPN fifteen thirty fen Dave Lapham

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Speaker 2: back in the Bengals Game Plan Show presented by bud Light,

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Speaker 2: Sports Bar and Grill here in Silverton. Let's give you

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Speaker 2: the injury report. The night before the Bengals take on

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steeler. Mikeasicki is out. He's gone on injured

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Speaker 2: reserve with a pectoral injury that he suffered last week,

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Speaker 2: so he's going to be out for at least four games.

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Speaker 2: Also out for the game Tomorrow's Tanner Hudson Tanner cut

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Speaker 2: the touchdown pass last week in the third quarter, but

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Speaker 2: he suffered a concussion during the course of the game.

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Speaker 2: He might have been back if it was a normal week,

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Speaker 2: but since it's the Thursday, he has not cleared concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: He is out. In the questionable category, you have Trey

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson who has not practiced this week, Charlie Jones who's

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Speaker 2: been limited with sore ribs, and Lucas Patrick who has

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Speaker 2: not returned yet from the calf injury that he suffered

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Speaker 2: in Week one. He has been practicing but hasn't been

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Speaker 2: put back on the roster yet. I did not say

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Speaker 2: the name Chamar Stewart, so we can look forward to

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Speaker 2: having Shamar Stewart back for the first time since Week two.

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Speaker 5: Well, I hope he can play some tight end. That

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Speaker 5: tight end position has gotten hammered. I mean they're in

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Speaker 5: trouble with the tight end, Packagers, they're going to have

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Speaker 5: to uh probably work around that a little bit. That's

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Speaker 5: also a blow to Joe Flacco because as a veteran

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Speaker 5: quarterback like he is, Aaron Rodgers saying, those guys know

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Speaker 5: how to utilize the tight end, know how to check

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Speaker 5: down to the tight end. Tight Ends the final option,

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Speaker 5: uh in the progression, get the ball in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the field to the tight end. So having that

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Speaker 5: position group depleted the way it is is a blow

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Speaker 5: really for this game.

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Speaker 2: So at the beginning of last week's game against the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, I'll admit to being a little bit

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Speaker 2: surprised when the Bengals took the field on defense they

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Speaker 2: had two rookies starting at linebacker. Now, obviously Dimitrius Knight

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Speaker 2: was no surprise, he's been a starter from the first

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Speaker 2: nap of the year against Cleveland. But Logan Wilson was out,

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Speaker 2: Barrett Carter was in. Zach Taylor was asked about it

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Speaker 2: after the game, and he more or less said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we think that Barrett Carter is earned the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: play more and to start. We think he can give

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Speaker 2: us a spark. We want to see those two young

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Speaker 2: guys develop and unfortunately for Logan Wilson that meant he

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Speaker 2: was in a very limited role in last week's game

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Speaker 2: against Green Bay. And apparently that's going to be the

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Speaker 2: case tomorrow. It is going to be Carter and Night

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Speaker 2: as the Bengals starting linebackers. Let's hear from Logan Wilson,

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Speaker 2: I'm no longer being in the starting lineup and the

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Speaker 2: rookie that has replaced him, at least for now, Parrot Carter.

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Speaker 15: You know, I put my arm around and I told him,

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Speaker 15: I said, there's gonna be no hard feelings between us.

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Speaker 15: Just know that, like, I'm not going to change who

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Speaker 15: I am. I still want to help you out. I

1367
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 15: know I've played a lot of football and there's things

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01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 15: I can still pour into you. And I told myself

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Speaker 15: I was not going to change who I am because

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Speaker 15: of a time of adversity in my life. And you know,

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Speaker 15: whenever my career is done, like look back at this

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Speaker 15: time of adversity and be able to tell my kids

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Speaker 15: how to how to get through, how to work through

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Speaker 15: adversity like this, and so that that's what I'll be

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Speaker 15: most proud of.

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Speaker 5: By the end of the day.

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Speaker 15: I'm still gonna work to continue to get better and

1378
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Speaker 15: just continue to support him as best as I can,

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Speaker 15: because that's what a good teammate would do.

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Speaker 2: He's been nothing but helpful.

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Speaker 12: Like for me, just I still lean on him every

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Speaker 12: single day, and I still will continue to lean on

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Speaker 12: him every single day no matter what the coach decides

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Speaker 12: to do. It's not it's not up to me, it's

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Speaker 12: not up to him. But we both we both love

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Speaker 12: each other, we both go to war with each other.

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Speaker 2: So you could hear why Logan Wilson's a captain on

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Speaker 2: this team, a first class response. That's something that has

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Speaker 2: to be very tough for him. Here's why it surprised me,

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: Lap and I could be way off on this. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think Logan Wilson was playing that badly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't playing great. He hasn't come up with big plays,

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: made interceptions, stuff like that. But he seemed like he

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: was playing solidly to me. So that's why I was

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: caught off guard.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, man, I'm with your partner. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think, honestly, the Bengals football team has bigger problems

1398
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 5: than Logan Wilson. I mean, guys are playing less effectively

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Speaker 5: less efficiently than Logan Wilson was I think in the

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Speaker 5: in the uh, you know, five game stretch that he

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 5: was playing in. I do think though he still will

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,919
Speaker 5: be involved when they go to their four to three defense,

1403
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 5: when they go for four down line and three backers

1404
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 5: four dbs, He'll he'll probably be one of the linebackers

1405
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Speaker 5: in that rotation when they go five to four, though

1406
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 5: he won't you know, it's going to be the young guys,

1407
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 5: so he'll he'll get less snaps. I'm not sure how

1408
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 5: many steps he will get. I don't know. Al Golden

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 5: is going to be obviously mixing and matching those two

1410
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 5: configurations against the opponent based on what the opponent does

1411
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 5: offensively and where their strengths are with with position groups

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Speaker 5: in their respective offenses. So I think, I do think

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Speaker 5: we have not seen the last of Logan Wilson, but

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Speaker 5: he isn't a diminished role. And I do agree with

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01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 5: you class Act. I mean, he could not have handled

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 5: it any better.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 5: It's it's basically Zach Taylor should take that tape of

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01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson being talked to in the locker room about

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 5: his quote new role and and keep it in a

1421
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 5: year after year say here's how you handle when things

1422
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 5: don't go your way, Here's how you step up, and

1423
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 5: here's how you become a professional. You know, there's there's

1424
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 5: things you can do physically, you know, strength, wise, speed

1425
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 5: and all that sort of thing, but emotionally, mentally, all

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Speaker 5: those things are important to and Logan Wilson's are pros

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Speaker 5: pro in that regard.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this after the Bengals extended the contracts

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Speaker 2: of Jamar Chase and t Higgins. With the amount of

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Speaker 2: money they're spending on their quarterback and their top two

1431
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: wide receivers in a salary cap league, it's just a

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: fact that they're going to have to be young and

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 2: keeap on defense or cheaper.

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Speaker 5: Not cheap.

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Speaker 2: Guys make a lot of money, but younger and cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Do you view this as we need to develop these

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Speaker 2: young guys that we've invested draft capital on because that's

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Speaker 2: going to be the key going forward with the amount

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Speaker 2: of money we're spending on offense.

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Speaker 5: I think that's another valid solid point by you, my man.

1441
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Speaker 5: You know football, and you know you've been around the

1442
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 5: National Football League and college football for a while. You

1443
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 5: know how it works, and it is. I mean, you

1444
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 5: can't give you can't pay everybody. You can't pay everybody

1445
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Speaker 5: the amount of money that they're looking to be paid.

1446
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Speaker 5: It's just not going to be the case. And you

1447
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 5: have to decide, you know, what position group, what people

1448
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 5: in that position group are going to be the ones

1449
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 5: that you look to to make the biggest contributions on

1450
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 5: a week to week basis, and take care of those

1451
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 5: people first. And we've already seen what the pecking order is.

1452
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Speaker 5: And they spend a lot of money on quarterback and

1453
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 5: the wide receiver positions for sure. That's the two biggest

1454
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 5: expenditures from a positional standpoint, you know, on the football

1455
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 5: team right now. So we'll see how it pans out.

1456
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 5: You'll see how it pans out. I mean, all I

1457
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 5: know is the worm has to turn. They cannot continue

1458
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 5: to play the title to the Inconsistency is in my mind,

1459
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 5: the biggest problem that they're they're demonstrating right now. They

1460
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 5: just on a snap by snap basis, it's not up

1461
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 5: to snuff, it's not good enough. All the coaches feel

1462
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Speaker 5: that way. They have to be more consistent on a

1463
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 5: snap by snap basis. In the AFC North, in the

1464
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 5: AFC in general to be competitive.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, the Bengals highest graded offensive lineman per

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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus last week is not expected to be

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Speaker 2: in the starting lineup tomorrow night. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 2: him next. This is the Bengals Game Plan Show presented

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals Game

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Speaker 2: Plan Show presented by bud Light, Easy to Drink, Easy

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Speaker 2: to Enjoy. We are live at the MVP Sports Bar

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Speaker 2: and Grill appreciate the Bengals fans came out to be

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: part of the show tonight. Got to see Sam Hubbard

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Speaker 2: in the first hour of the show, which is really cool.

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01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: Great guy, and he is going to be involved periodically

1477
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 2: on our Friday show going forward, so we looked forward

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01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: to that. At the beginning of the year, the Bengals

1479
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: starting right guard was Lucas Patrick. He suffered a calf

1480
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 2: injury in Week one. He was replaced by Dalton Reisner,

1481
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: who had just joined the team and played really well

1482
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: in that first game against Cleveland. So then Dalton took

1483
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 2: over as the starting right guard and did not play

1484
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: very well for a couple of weeks, he got replaced

1485
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 2: by rookie Jalen Rivers, who has been starting at right

1486
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 2: guard ever since. However, in last week's game, Dylan Fairchild,

1487
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Speaker 2: who had been starting at left guard, had to miss

1488
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: the game because of a knee injury. Dalton Reisner wound

1489
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: up moving back into the starting lineup on the other side,

1490
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 2: started at left guard and played really well. He was

1491
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: the highest graded offensive lineman in last week's game according

1492
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: to Pro Football Focus. Now, Dylan Fairchild is healthy again

1493
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: right He's been a full participant in practice this week.

1494
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 2: I would expect that he'll be back in the starting

1495
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: lineup tomorrow night against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Dalton Reisner

1496
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: would go back to the bench. I spoke to Dalton

1497
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Speaker 2: Reisner this week.

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Speaker 16: Week two and three weren't weren't weren't the same, and

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Speaker 16: I lost myself by spot because of it, And you.

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Speaker 5: Know, that's a that's a tough deal. But in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: that's how.

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Speaker 16: It works is you expect to perform at a high

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 16: level at all times. And I didn't perform up to

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Speaker 16: my standard or the standard that I'm sure the Bengals

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01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 16: expected as me. In Week two and Week three, so

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Speaker 16: I've been doing nothing but zero pouting and one hundred

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Speaker 16: percent of getting myself right to be ready when called upon.

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Speaker 16: And I was called upon last week, and I'm just

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01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 16: so grateful that I had the opportunity to play against

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01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 16: the Packers, play at left guard and perform the way

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Speaker 16: I did. And now it's the same mindset every single week,

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Speaker 16: every single day.

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Speaker 5: How can I be better? Win called upon? For this team?

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01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 2: Rookies have been starting at those guard spots. I know

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01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: you obviously want to play, but what do you think

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: of Dylan Fairchild and Jalen Rivers and the way that

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 2: they are learning on the fly?

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Speaker 16: I think that they're doing a great job. Jalen and

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01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 16: Dylan are, first of all, such great young men. I

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01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 16: really respect the way that they attack their work, the

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01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 16: way that they come in here and want to be great.

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Speaker 16: I think the Bengals found some great dudes in those guys,

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01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 16: some guys that can make a living and in this

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01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 16: league for a very long time. So nothing but great

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 16: things to say about them off the field, and when

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01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 16: it comes to on the field, man, these guys are

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01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 16: pretty they love to work hard, they're acceptable to coaching,

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 16: they want to be better, They come in every single

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01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 16: day and they attack their work, and they're super talented.

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Speaker 16: So they got nothing but sky's limit for them.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure, all right, Lap, We talked about it

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Speaker 2: in the last segment. Two rookies are going to start

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Speaker 2: at linebacker tomorrow night. Two rookies are going to start

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Speaker 2: it in all likelihood tomorrow night. We're also going to

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01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 2: see a lot of Shamar Stewart, whether he starts or not.

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Speaker 2: That's five guys drafted in this year's class that are

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Speaker 2: being counted on heavily in week seven.

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Speaker 5: And and two of them are the inside linebackers and

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01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 5: two of them the guards. I mean, that's the core,

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01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,839
Speaker 5: the foundation of the interior of your offensive and defensive lines.

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01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 5: And uh and in configurations front seven defensively, two rookie

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01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 5: inside backers, that's uh, that's gutsy, that's that's that's making

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01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 5: a a very very you know, could be second guest

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01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 5: decision on the part of Al Golden.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then with the offensive line, same deal. Two rookie

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01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 5: our guards. Before I get too far into this though,

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01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 5: how about Dalton Reisner. How about a guy who I'll

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 5: take as many Dalton rivesters as I can get because

1550
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 5: like that guy. I mean, all he did was talk

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01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 5: as a team player. It's not about Dalton Risen there too.

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: I was not good in weeks two and three, more

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: or less saying I deserved to be replaced. But I'm

1554
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: busting my tail to try to get back out there

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01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: and play.

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01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 5: And the guy who's been in the league for the

1557
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 5: length of time that he's been in the league, to

1558
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: have that approach, that attitude, that work ethic, that mindset

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01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 5: is contagious. Hopefully it's contagious to the to the young players.

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01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 5: And and you know, because they can. I remember as

1561
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 5: a rookie, you know, Paul Brown saying to me, look,

1562
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 5: we're gonna play you. You're gonna get in a rotation.

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01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 5: You probably play more as the season goes along, because

1564
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have confidence that you'll have a better idea

1565
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 5: what the hell you're doing, to be quite blunt, and

1566
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 5: and he was right, he was right. And all these

1567
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 5: guys are going to improve. Riisner is going to improve.

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01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 5: He's he's probably more comfortable than the rookies are at

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01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 5: this stage in terms of going out there and being

1570
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 5: not overwhelmed. That's probably too strong a word, but you know, uncomfortable, uncertain,

1571
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be, is to what you're looking

1572
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 5: at and how it's gonna be a different picture of

1573
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 5: pre snap post snap looks can have two different photographs totally,

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01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 5: you know. I mean it's like, man, what the heck?

1575
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 5: How did he get from there to there so fast?

1576
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 5: How did he move that quickly? I know I didn't

1577
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 5: close my eyes, So what the hell happened out there?

1578
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 5: But Reisner, I think to have to have a guy

1579
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 5: like him that could provide in worst case scenario death

1580
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 5: at multiple positions in your offensive line at garden and

1581
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 5: tackling the center potentially. I mean, he could, he could

1582
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 5: do it all. He could, He could, he could play anywhere.

1583
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 5: The Bengals organization, you know, ownership, general manager, scouting department,

1584
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 5: they did a good job in evaluating talent, I think,

1585
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 5: And uh, we'll see how it pens.

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01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take our final time out when

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01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: we come back. Is this a must win? Well? Here, well,

1588
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: here what Jamar has the Chase has to say about

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01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: that question? When we come back. It's the Bengals Game

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Speaker 2: content on the show. First, thank you to our engineer,

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Speaker 2: Mike Mills. Mike, that's your man, Mike. Appreciate Mike as always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to tearing anything but bland back in the studio.

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Speaker 5: Hey man, the man.

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Speaker 2: minutes early, but maybe she's listening in the car on

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Speaker 2: our way home. We appreciate Nita as always. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to the Bengals who are here tonight. We appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, she was doling out the raffle ticket NI

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Speaker 2: earlier tonight. And thank you to Josh and the staff

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Speaker 2: best place to watch a Bengals game in Cincinnati. So

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: find out for yourself tomorrow night when the Bengals beat

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01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers at fifteen tomorrow night, destroy them. So

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame head coach Marv Levy, the former Buffalo

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01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: Bill's head coach, was once asked about an upcoming game

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01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: and a reporter asked him, is this a must win game?

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01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Marv Levy said, World War Two was must win. This

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01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 2: is just a football game, but tomorrow night's game is huge.

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01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase yesterday was asked if it's must win. Here's

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Speaker 2: what he had to say.

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Speaker 14: Five years have been here, I've been here every week.

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01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 14: Something that y'all say a lot out here, you know.

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01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 14: I mean, at the end of the day, we know

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 14: we gotta win certain games. We know we gotta be

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 14: division teams for us to put ourselves in position to

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 14: be number one in the division. But you know, at

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01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 14: the end of the day, we got to actually put

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01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 14: the work in and do it when it's game zone.

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01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,799
Speaker 2: So Jamar is right. About five times a year somebody

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01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: calls it a must win game, and technically speaking, it's not.

1632
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: We have no idea. What's going to happen after tomorrow.

1633
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 2: It's football, you know, Ravens are one in five and

1634
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 2: have a million injuries, so strange stuff can happen. But

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01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I look at it more as not necessarily must win,

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01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 2: but golden opportunity win it. You gain ground on the Steelers.

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01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: You're two to zero in the division, You've got a

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01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: head to head win against Pittsburgh in your pocket, and

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: you got home games coming up against the winless Jets

1640
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 2: and the still kind of building Bears. It could be

1641
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: the start of a winning streak to get you to

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01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 2: five and four going into your by Yeah.

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01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 5: I look at it as vitally important. Yeah that's good,

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01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, It's like if it's if you lose

1645
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 5: the football game, what are you going to do? Pack

1646
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 5: up and go home and say the season's over. Now.

1647
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 5: You're not going to do that. You're going to, you know,

1648
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 5: get after it and go to work and try to

1649
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 5: come back and do it a little bit better and

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01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 5: get a win the next week. But this game at

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 5: home against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a division game at home,

1652
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 5: even a con game AFC American Football Conference game at home,

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 5: is huge. You can't let those slip through your fingers.

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01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 5: You got to go out there and put your best

1655
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 5: foot forward, put put the best performance you can do

1656
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 5: individually and collectively as a team on the football field

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01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 5: that day. You know, must might be a little bit

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01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 5: of a stretch, but vitally important.

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01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Vitally important is fair?

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01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it's fair.

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01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's going to be a vitally important win. Yes,

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01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, I'm gonna calling it. I'm with you, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our show tonight. Thank

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Speaker 2: you to all the Bengals fans that came out to

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