1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. Here's a shot heard 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: round the world. You can follow me on Twitter at 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Mark Madden X. I'm joined now by Tommy Radio. Tom 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: has Aaron Rodgers fed up the Steelers offense at this 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: point by bending to his quirks and preferences. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: I hate that he's bending to his quirks and he's 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: going to MVS like he is right now. But I 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: think the person that fed up the Steelers offense is 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: still to Kaln Metcalf. If he was out there, yes, 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: you would still see Rogers maybe throwing to MVS more 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: than he should, but he'd still be going to dk 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Metcalf and still be having that downfield threat that they 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: so clearly need. But you can't ignore the fact that 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: he spammed MVS three straight times. On that last drive. 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: He had nine targets to Scottie Miller's seven to m VA. 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that's nutty stuff. It's not going 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: to your best player. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: I question if them guys should even be on. 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: The field, fringe players that should be on the getting a. 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: Helmet, let alone getting targeted that much. 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: And like you said, down the stretch, MVS with the 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: last three targets with Denzel Ward covering. We got a 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: great sound bite from Mike Florio. Boy, that's a phrase 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: you don't often hear. A great sound bite from Mike 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Florio about Rogers's quirkiness when it comes to anointing receivers. 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: But it's relevant, it's true, and it's hurting the Steelers. 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, here's what Rogers has done. A dumps out 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: of the run all the time, whether it's working or not. 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: They averaged five point five yards per carry at Cleveland 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: and yet passed the ball almost twice as much as 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: they ran it. B wants to invent guys like we 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: talked about, like Miller and MVS or reinvent c just 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: shuts some guys out like Mouth mostly and most inexplicably. 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: And what made it even weirder, it was like flipping 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: off Mouth. He used him to get to the red 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: zone on that last drive at Cleveland and then didn't 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: use him in the red zone at all. 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: So frustrating. But I think the thing that you listed 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: there that gets on my nerves the most is his 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: ability or his willingness to dump out of the run 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: as frequently as he does. And that is the way 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: that this offense is supposed to be. It's supposed to 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: run the ball. Everything flows from there, a lot of 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: play action off of you know what, that's what Arthur Smith. 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: He wants it to be. 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: That's what he's always done. So this is Rogers overruling Smith. 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: We saw that little tet at ted where he like, 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: motion to the bench, just. 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: Let me do it. 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 51 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: You know what's funny. 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: It took a long time for him to be an ass, 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers at long last has become an ass. 54 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: And I kind of knew it would happen eventually. 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: And we kind of knew that he was going to 56 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: dump out of the run a lot if you looked 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: at what he did to the New York Jets, because 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: the Jets were built a similar way. Last year, they 59 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: were supposed to run the ball a ton. They ran 60 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: the ball the fewest amount of any team in the NFL. 61 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: They ended up throwing the ball more than anybody. No, 62 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: they were trailing a lot, but still. 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's ego. 64 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Obviously, Rogers doesn't want to just be a game manager. 65 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: But he's not good enough any more to be much 66 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: more than that. So he wants to be the offensive 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: coordinator too. 68 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: Right, and if his idea of being the offensive coordinator 69 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: is dumping out of the run and targeting Marquezvaldez Scantling 70 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: nine times, you're a terrible offensive coordinator. You're somehow worse 71 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: than Arthur Smith. 72 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: I think still, even despite the loss of Cleveland, he's 73 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers' MVP this year. But if he does what 74 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: he's doing and doesn't do what he needs to do 75 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: down the stretch, then none of that matters. Then it's 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: a very hollow MVP. And you know, not that it's 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: a big award, but he can make or break that 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: candidacy in this last game if he don't win it. 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: Bringing him in here was a failed experiment. 80 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: Winning this last game getting into the playoffs, of course. 81 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: And then even I think if he don't win a 82 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: playoff game, it's a failed experience. I was going to 83 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: say expand that a little bit. And that's what weird 84 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: is coming from the loss of Cleveland. If they beat Baltimore, 85 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: now win the division, but don't win a playoff game, 86 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: because they came so close to blowing the division, it'll 87 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: seem like winning it, like beating Baltimore was enough playoff 88 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: like we're just slipping the bar down imperceptibly and a 89 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: little bit, but definitely. 90 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely people are gonna view it through that lens. 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: Some people. I still think there will be people that 92 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: are pretty pissed off that. Again, now it's gonna be 93 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: ten years that you haven't won a playoff game and 94 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: view that as unacceptable. 95 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: Well, nine, it'll be nine. 96 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: Nine going on ten. And but you're right, like there 97 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: will be some kind of a triumph of well, at 98 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: least we beat the Ravens and we got the AFC 99 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: North under our belt. That's progress. They'll view that as progress. 100 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: A triumph of the dumb dilected by Leanie Reefenstahl, would 101 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: you bring Rogers back next year at forty three? And 102 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: given the way things are going right this second, I 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: would say no. 104 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: Way. 105 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: I would say no, just because I'm tired of the 106 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: old body quarterbacks. 107 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I would say no. Even if they beat Baltimore, even 108 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: if they win a playoff game. 109 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: Move on. You have to develop, you have to go. 110 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 111 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: If they do draft the guy they perceive to be 112 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: their long term quarterback in April in Pittsburgh at the 113 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: draft A, they'll mangle it be. They're not going to 114 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: start up as a rookie anyway, unless injury dictates like 115 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: it so fortunately did with Ben Beckwin. 116 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: I think all of those things will play out, but 117 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: I still want to go back into those waters, into 118 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: that rookie quarterback, you know, kind of roulette, spin that 119 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: wheel and see if you land on one that actually 120 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: you can't screw up, like his development, you can't hinder 121 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: based on being an archaic offensive minded team. It's just 122 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: the best option forward. It's the only option forward for 123 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: a team that really wants to get back to seriously contending. 124 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: This old bummy recycled quarterback thing ever waits. 125 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: They don't want to get to seriously contending. They want 126 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: to just patch work and try to make the playoffs. 127 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: And you know, Tom Win never had a losing season, 128 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: and boy, I used to think that him never having 129 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: had a losing season was coincidental and not that important 130 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: to them. 131 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: I think about two or three years ago. 132 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: It just leap fraud into a position of significance to 133 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: them that I never imagined. 134 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Is that what's going if they do lose this game 135 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: to Baltimore and they let the division go away from them, 136 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: is that what they will. They will kind of spin. 137 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: They'll be like what it was nine and eight? 138 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: How do I have these no idea what they will 139 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: say if they lose to Baltimore because tom Win should 140 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: be fired before he gets off the field. We know 141 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen, but I'm curious to see what 142 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: he says. Yeah, and how ow uh fray, I mean, 143 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: how Art Rooney the second spins it? 144 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't know either. I wonder if it'll 145 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: be like he had a winning season. The stability thing, 146 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's unspinnable. I mean, you just 147 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: said it yourself. They're interested now in patchworking just to 148 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. You patchworked and miss the playoffs. 149 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: So well, they'll feel the same way next year because 150 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Hayward will probably be back, Yes, wad he'll be back. 151 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: It'll be all in for the old guys Ramsey. 152 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: But it didn't work and they'll feel, oh, if we 153 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: would have had DK blah blah blah. Their organization is 154 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: just so full of crap. I wish I could use 155 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: the word that I'd like to instead of crap, instead 156 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: of excrement, But that's what they're full of. 157 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: And a lot of it, you walk right into it. 158 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna lean on. A lot is the 159 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: dkmat Calf thing, which is his own fault, and he's 160 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: an idiot, and you have a environment that fosters those 161 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: kind of behaviors over and over again. 162 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: Yet they re guaranteed his. 163 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: Money immediately, didn't even make him sweat it a little bit. 164 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: Tom I'm gonna talk about this at Blink though, if 165 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: not today then tomorrow. But but what you're talking about Willis, 166 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: would you bring in Milik Willis? I mean, people are 167 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: going nuts over the prospect of him not just in Pittsburgh, 168 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, playing for their team, you know, fill in 169 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: the blank. And he's had two good games and and 170 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: he lost to Baltimore. Yeah, they should really think about 171 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: bringing in a guy who has experienced losing to Baltimore and. 172 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: He keeps getting hurt, like he was questionable going into 173 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: that Ravens game, was able to play hurt, then got 174 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: hurt in the Ravens game, so they ended up losing 175 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: the game because he wasn't able to finish it. A 176 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: two game sample size is going to make I don't 177 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: know if it's with Pittsburgh, Mark, but it's gonna make 178 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 2: Milik Willis an insane amount of money, an insane amount 179 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: of I. 180 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Saw an article online about the top four teams, you know, 181 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: candidates to get Malik Willis, and Pittsburgh wasn't among them, 182 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: and the only reference to the Steelers was in so 183 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: many words, why would he want to go there? 184 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: You say that about almost every prominent offensive player that people. 185 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: They would do the same to him that they did 186 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: the fields. They wouldn't let him play his game. That 187 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: take his legs away from him. 188 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: That's what he needs. That's what was so dynamic when 189 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: you saw him Saturday night against the Ravens. 190 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: That's Tom Mark. We got de Fabo later, we got 191 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Pierre McGuire. Later, we got Kolobe Armstrong. We are celebrating 192 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: his record setting goal in the very first Winter Classic, 193 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: just twenty one seconds in. 194 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: It will never be broken. 195 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I challenge all you great players out there, sin if 196 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: you're listening, you won't break it. Maybe because you're not 197 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: in the Winter Classic this year. What oh five ninety 198 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: x ah, here you go, are you run out? 199 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: We've got you and your friends, very last chance. 200 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: To Penguin's host Carolina this evening. 201 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: It's a hockey night in Pittsburgh. Ryan Grahams got waived 202 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: to make room for Chinnikov, the winger they got in 203 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: that trade with Kalum Chinnakoff feels like just some guy, 204 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: the Russian Phil Thomas Sino. Maybe he was a first 205 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty, but has never been a 206 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: top score at any level, not like even dating back 207 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: when he played juniors in Russia. Not particularly big either. 208 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious why he was a first round pick. Peter 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: MacGuire can probably tell us about that later in the program. 210 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: I will give him benefit of the dapt because he 211 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: was miscast in Columbus. He got fourth line minutes and 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: that was his role, but that's not his skill set. 213 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: And the coach there disliked him. 214 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: And when the coach dislikes you, if you are good, 215 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a chance to prove it. Carolina 216 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: leads to Metro. Good solid, very basic team, no real stars, Aho, 217 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Jarvis and Svetchtakoff. Kind of our buddy Jordan stall the captain. 218 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: He's in town, loves Stallsey. Penguin's got some momentum with 219 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: that seven three win in Chicago, but I've seen that 220 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: Fish before. I'm curious to see Chinnikov, but I'm controlling 221 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: my expectations in that regard. Tom, what's your take on 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: the Chinnikov acquisition, because I never recall seeing him play. 223 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, it doesn't move the needle very much for 224 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: me at all. So anything that Chinnikov can bring to 225 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: the table is probably gonna be a pleasant surprise for me. 226 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: I'm just not expecting much from him. 227 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: I know what his nickname would have been back in 228 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: the day, but these days it's Chinny. He didn't get 229 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: along with the coaching columbus Tom Dean Everson, who ain't 230 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: exactly Scotty Bowman and like I said, was miscast as 231 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: a bottom six. I'd bet on Dean Everson being wrong 232 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: before I'd bet on Chinnikov being bad. That's the one 233 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: ray of optimism I'm trying to let shine through. 234 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: Do you think Chinnikov slots in on the top six 235 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: here at all? 236 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Though? 237 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: Does he get opportunities there? 238 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: That certainly what Kyle Dubis alluded to it he wants, 239 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: he feels he can play in the top six. If 240 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: I were Dubis, I would go to Dan Muse, the 241 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: coach and say, look, he's playing top six tonight because 242 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: Kyle has to do that. 243 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: Kyle has to. 244 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Make sure Muse is using his vision and not just 245 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: veterany veterany veterany to try to make the playoffs, you 246 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: got to find out about Chinnikov. That's as important as 247 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: him producing. Finding out what you got asap. And if 248 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: you put him on the bottom six, he'll be miscast 249 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: here just like he was in Columbus. 250 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's nothing that's really stopping Dubis from acting 251 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: that way. I mean, mus is your higher you're his boss. 252 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: With Sullivan, it was a weird dynamic, right because you 253 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: inherited him, so there was alwaysly going to be a 254 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: little bit He. 255 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Had one before Dubis got here. 256 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, his voice carried a lot more weight Muse's voice. 257 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to just ignore everything MWS says. 258 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: You want to have a good working relationship, but it 259 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: comes down to dubas at the end of the day 260 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: and you tell him what to do. 261 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: At this point, I would mostly ignore what Muse says 262 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: and I would tell him exactly what he do because 263 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: it ain't been going so good, it ain't been done 264 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: so logical in recent weeks. Uh, Carolina played last night, 265 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: the Penguins didn't. That's a big edge. And it was 266 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: the same when the Penguins throttled Chicago on Sunday. 267 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: The Blackhawks had played the night before. 268 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: So the Penguins can't say the schedule's not giving them 269 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: the odd break. 270 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: Although Carolina, like I said, they lead the Metro and. 271 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: The Red Wings play tomorrow New Year's Eve. Penguins play 272 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: them on New Year's Day, so they're getting the Red 273 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: Wings on the second leg of a back to back 274 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: two It sets up beautifully for them coming out of 275 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: this holiday break. Two of these games are at home. 276 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: They can get back on track. And what is back 277 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: on track, getting back on the right side of that 278 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: wild card cut line. And that's all I'm playing for 279 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: right now, because I just I fear we are hurtling 280 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: towards ninth place, tenth place finish. It just feels that way. 281 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: So get comfortable, get on the right side of the 282 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: playoff line, and kind of hold that for the remainder 283 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: of the season. 284 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: Either win these next two or lose these next two, 285 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: because I want to be headed in one direction to 286 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: the other quite clearly, as we get to the New Year, so. 287 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: They'll get two points via two loser points obviously, if I. 288 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: Wonder if you can bet that on bet Parks. Is 289 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: justin Braso brawsers as good as his stats. He got 290 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: the hat trick at Chicago and now has eleven goals total, 291 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: a career high. He's got very good hands, especially in 292 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: tight for a big man. 293 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not ready to anoint him, you know, 294 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: a nailed on top six winger, but he's certainly trending 295 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: in that direction. 296 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not even ready to call him Warren Young, but 297 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: I will say he's making the most of his opportunity 298 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: playing with decent players in the top six. 299 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: I think he's certainly established himself now as a legitimate 300 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: nailed on NHL player. And yeah, he's showing a lot 301 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: more than you ever thought he would skill wise. 302 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: I don't even know that he's established himself. 303 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: Don't think so is that. 304 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hoping for the best, but he hadn't 305 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: done it to this point. 306 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: It's not even half a season. 307 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm encouraged that he had the hot start to the season, 308 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: got injured, Gino goes out, you know, his center, that's 309 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 2: he coming back. I have no idea. 310 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: But that's weird how long that's dragged out because we 311 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: were told it was significant, and it's obviously quite significant. 312 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: But it's encouraging that Brawsers came back from his injury, 313 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: joined the second line without Gino and is still producing. 314 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: We're just stand on Billy Coley and he's got four 315 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: points in twenty five games. 316 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: But his metrics are just fabulous. 317 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: He's like member Dominic Simone, who couldn't shoot the puck 318 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: in the ocean if he was standing on a boat, 319 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: but his metrics dictated he should be top six. 320 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: Don't you think you should just play a guy like 321 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: that from almost an entire season. The damn will break eventually, 322 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: It just almost has to. 323 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: Well, it either would or it wouldn't, But. 324 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: At least you have a sample size of a full 325 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: season to know. 326 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I would play him with Kindle and McGroarty, and I 327 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: would give them more minutes and more responsibility, and I'd 328 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: put Covin in on well I think he is on 329 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: the second power play. Yeah, I would keep giving him 330 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: opportunity because I think that's what this season should mostly 331 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: be about, is development, which a kid needs opportunity to do. 332 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: You can kind of like sneak kindle into the second 333 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: center role, like you know on the graphics that get published, 334 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: or like the lineup cards. Gino when he's healthy can 335 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: be second line center. But then at the end of 336 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: the game, when you look at the box score, oh 337 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: the minutes, Gino is actually the third line center. 338 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: The Olympic rash is get announced tomorrow. I'm not interested 339 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: specifics like who the last player cut is. I'm interested 340 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: in if the US and Canada go big because of 341 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: the slightly smaller rink in Milan, and because the Four 342 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Nations tournament was so physical. 343 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: And that would probably mean what like a Celebrini for 344 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: Canada doesn't make the roster, someone like that a bit dark. 345 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: May he doesn't make it. That's insane. 346 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: He's like one of the best players in the league. 347 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: I saw him. 348 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: He's a top ten forward in the league, maybe top 349 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: five right this second. 350 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: I feel like Canada's gonna take him. Canada seems to 351 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: do that. They seem to make the right decision more often. 352 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: I bet the US is more likely to go big 353 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: yeah than Canada. I mean, I think Canada's gonna pick 354 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: Tom Wilson. 355 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: But he's having a career year for points, So I mean, 356 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I can see why they might. But 357 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: I bet the US gets it wrong Garon and Sully 358 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: because of the rink size and the physicality of the 359 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: four Nations, plus you know, typical hockey, big tough testosterone, 360 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: which the Olympics will not be. The refs won't let it. 361 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: It will be ref totally different than the four Nations. 362 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: And of course fighting is forbidden. 363 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: And it sucks to the coolie injury right, because he's 364 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: not as good as celebrity, but he's like the USA's 365 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: version of that young up and coming star that we 366 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: were hoping would make the roster. They don't even have 367 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: to make that decision now, which they probably would have 368 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: made the wrong decision, yeah, because he's. 369 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: Hurt, and I think they would have made the wrong decision. 370 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: You know what's weird is like the promotion for the 371 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: Olympics on TV shows all the fighting from the four Nations. 372 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Like you have John Hamm in the US dressing room, 373 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, talking about Canadian tears, and they show the 374 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: fights and you can't fight in the Olympics. It's really 375 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: a grotesque and stupid misrepresentation. Do you think Brian rust 376 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: will make the US team. I don't, And honestly, I'm 377 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: a big Rusty fan, but I don't think he should. 378 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: People say, well, if you want a third or fourth 379 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: line style player, he's your guy. 380 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that's true. 381 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: But I would always pick my best, yes, eighteen skaters 382 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: or however many, whatever the roster is, and fit them 383 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: in the rolls. 384 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: Example, I always. 385 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: Give Steve Eiserman was always a checking center for Canada 386 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: because he played on teams with gret Skin Lemieux. I 387 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: think before him, Dal Howard Chuck, who was one hundred 388 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: point guy, kind of fit that role. 389 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Rusty, but I agree on both counts 390 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: with you. I yes, he would be a perfect third, 391 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: fourth line guy, but you just need to grab your 392 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: best players and fit them into that mold, like you 393 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: were saying that that's the way you're supposed to go 394 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: about this team. USA. I think failed to do that 395 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: in the Four Nations tournament where Canada did that. You know, 396 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: they were rolling out fourth line guys and stars on 397 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: it that were just playing that role. And can what 398 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: team he says, rolling out like you know, Matt bowdies 399 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: are out there in the bottom six, like they just 400 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: need to get their best players on the ice. 401 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Russell, when you're playing for your country and 402 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: the players in the hockey fans, especially in Canada, attach 403 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: a false sense of patriotism to it. Like Herb Brooks 404 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: said about nineteen eighty, it was a hockey tournament. That's 405 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: when people were saying it was a morality play on ice, 406 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: and Herb would say, no, it's a hockey tourn but but, 407 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: but guys will subvert egos when they play for their country. 408 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: In fact, that's one of the few situations where any 409 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: athlete will subvert. 410 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: His ego is because he has got the country, the 411 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: crest of his country on his chest. Yeah, and no 412 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: doubt so that that's the strategy that I think you 413 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: have to go. Sorry to Rusty, but he just wouldn't 414 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: make it. Gunst will make it for sure, though. Gonsl 415 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: is one of the best players on TUSA. 416 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Gensel's a top six forward for sure. 417 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: I'm also encouragus to see where sid fits in. Is 418 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: he Is he the third center or they move Nate 419 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: Dogg to wing and you Sid as the second center 420 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: behind Mickjesus Obviously. 421 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: Like here, here's here's what I would do. 422 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: I would put Sid on a line with Celebrity and McKinnon, 423 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: but they're gonna give old man Marshawn. Yes, you know 424 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: that that role with Sid because he's always had it. 425 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: And like I said, I think the US will screw 426 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: things up badly in terms of selection and deployment. 427 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: Canada isn't immune to that either. 428 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: With Marshawn, you think it's probably just time to turn 429 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: the page on him. 430 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't even think you should be on the team. 431 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: He's a lock because of the said thing. Yeah, no, 432 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: just because you know he won twice with Florida and 433 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: he's you know, that kind of heart and soul. 434 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah, YadA YadA. 435 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Guy. 436 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: I think that's what they did in the Four Nations, right, 437 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: Nate Dogg moved to wing and Sid was the second 438 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: line center. I think marsh On is the other wing. 439 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: I bet you that's the path that they will go 440 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: with here. 441 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Well, my second line will with me Sid, Celebrini and 442 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: and McKinnon. No, no, dot on that in my mind, 443 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: And of course I am rooting for Canada because I 444 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: ruled for Sid. 445 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: There's some chemistry between Sid and Celebrini right at the 446 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: World's right at the end of the season. Last year 447 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: they played on the line together for Canada. When Sid 448 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: and Fleurry went to play for Team Canada. 449 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: Gee, I wasn't paying attention to the World Championships, so 450 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 451 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: One oh five nine the X. 452 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: It's the Woody Show weekday mornings at six. 453 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah on one oh five nine X. 454 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: Rob King here, Staying connected to your studers has never 455 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: been easier. 456 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: Tune into sho on one oh five nine D. 457 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Steelers against Baltimore. You can watch the game with me 458 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: at the All Star Sports Bar and Grill at. 459 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: South Point to South Point location. 460 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: This idea, I mean, I've really soured on Rogers, and 461 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: I know it's not his fault DK suspended, but the 462 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: notion that his top two receivers, his top two targets 463 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: are mvs and Scottie Miller, it's just absurd. Those two 464 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: guys are bums between them. Like I said earlier, they've 465 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: been cut so many times it's a wonder they ain't 466 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: bled to death. But he's made them the preferred targets 467 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: ahead of guys like Mouth. Cower got it right. Cower said, 468 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: the best thing to do with metcalf out is to 469 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of play action and feature John Hue 470 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: and mouth. So it has been said and so should 471 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: come to pass, but it absolutely will not. 472 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: Let me tell you. 473 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk later about why Cower is a much 474 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: better coach than Tomlin, and part of it is Cower 475 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: would tell the quarterback what to do, and it wouldn't 476 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback was. Tom Win just goes with 477 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the flow because he's scared to death. The whole organization 478 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: is scared the death of Tomlin, except Tom went scared 479 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: to death of Rogers. That's the pecking order right now. 480 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: Took a while for that to be made clear, but 481 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: that's the pecking order right now. Uh. I am finalizing 482 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: a lot of my travel plans for this summer because 483 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna travel a ton till I drop, and that'll 484 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: probably happen. I just hope it's at home so I 485 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: don't have to, like put my carcass on some transatlantic 486 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: flight dead body in the hold blow Ugh. 487 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 3: I'd hate to be that dead body, but hey, who 488 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: would like it? 489 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: But I'm finalizing my World Cup game, my bucket list 490 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: World Cup game. I'm going to Scotland versus Morocco. Scotland 491 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: captain oh and Andy Andy Andy Andy Andy Robertson from 492 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: Liverpool and I got the hotel booked at fifteen hundred 493 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: a night, right next to Jillett Stadium. 494 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: Though I got the flight booked. 495 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I got the limo from the airport Logan Airport to 496 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: the hotel booked, but I don't have the ticket yet. 497 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of options for that. 498 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: So I signed up for the official FIFA Hospitality ticket service, 499 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: like you can get like the real fancy Smancy tickets 500 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: and I haven't booked a ticket yet. 501 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: You can book single tickets. 502 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: The guy called me today, a guy from FIFA, and said, 503 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: how many were talking about in your group? And I 504 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: go one? He goes one. I go yeah, one. He 505 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: goes we can do that online. 506 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: I go yeah. I was going to until you called. 507 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's got a call and he 508 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: had a properly FIFA name. He was Mahmud, you know, 509 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: very very continental, very global representative. 510 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: But I'm going and I'm also debating. I'll be blunt. 511 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna blow off the draft and go to 512 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Crystal Palace at Liverpool that weekend. But my preferred ticket 513 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: that I've got on stub hup for like the last 514 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: four Liverpool games for some reasons not posted. But Chelsea 515 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: at Anfield in June. I can get that ticket. But 516 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: I would have to fly right from Miami after seeing 517 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: Guns and Roses to England to see Liverpool, and that 518 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: sounds like it's tough to do physically, just a lot 519 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: of you know, flights and getting here, getting there. 520 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: It also sounds awesome. 521 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: Guns n' Roses on Tuesday, Liverpool and Chelsea on Saturday. 522 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty awesome. Tom, What is your bucket list 523 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: in terms of sports? What would you like to attend 524 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: before you shuffle off the Mortal Coil? 525 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: You being only what thirty one? 526 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Thirty one? Yes, yeah, World Cup is a really good one. 527 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: I would like to see a Super Bowl. I think 528 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: I've never seen a Super Bowl in person. It doesn't 529 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: have to be the Steelers in it, just a super Bowl. 530 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Some cathedrals of baseball stadiums like Wrigley I think would 531 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: be cool to go to see. But for me, Mark, 532 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: my number one bucket list is going to be a 533 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: weekend at Augusta. I would love to see Saturday and 534 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: Sunday Masters tournament walk those grounds It's just such a 535 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: legendary feel. I think when you're there. It's so hard 536 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: to get on those grounds, Like you gotta win like 537 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: lotteries to get those tickets. So Augusta, Saturday and Sunday 538 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: would be my bucket list. 539 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: See let me tell you, why did you ever go 540 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: to the US Open? 541 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: I've been to Oakmon? 542 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 3: Yes, how was that? 543 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 2: It was fun? It was twenty sixteen when I went. 544 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: I didn't go this year. 545 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: You know what I hate about that and why I'm 546 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: a little trepidacious about the World Cup. I hate being 547 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: in the sun in the summer because I get burnt 548 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: very easily. But the game between Scotland and Moroccos at 549 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: six pm, so like the sun will be on one 550 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: side of the stadium. Maybe I'm lucky and getting the 551 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: shade and it shouldn't be just burning. 552 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 3: It's mid June. It should be tolerable. 553 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: Oakmont was really legendary, obviously, but Augusta's just a it's 554 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: a different level of legendary when it comes to golf tournaments. 555 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: And with the sun there mark you can you know, 556 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: you can dodge in and out of tree brand right, 557 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: so you get some shade there. 558 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: One time when Liverpool did a tour of the US, 559 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: they played in Baltimore against Spurs in August. In game time, 560 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what what dumb son of a bitch 561 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: decided this game time was new okay, baking. We had tickets. 562 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: I went with a group of guys. We had tickets 563 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: at the at the at the center line. You know 564 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: what I did. I went and sat in the back 565 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: in the shade because like an overhangs was head right right. 566 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: It was very far away. But I didn't burn like 567 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: a lobster. 568 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 2: Oh no, it just been terrible planning there. Any game 569 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: like that needs to be at night, not at noon 570 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: in August. What would be number two on you, Loki, 571 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Besides the Masters, I'd say probably go to a super Bowl. 572 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: I went to one Super Bowl thirty. It's cool, right, 573 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: The atmosphere is just a wild thing. 574 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: Of the ten best parties I've ever been to, three 575 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: were at that Super Bowl. 576 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: They were awesome. Yeah. 577 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: Kevin Green break curfew honestly just so he wasn't drunk though, 578 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: he was just like really wound up the night before 579 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: the game and wanted to just you know, get somewhere. 580 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: The game would be cool itself. Don't get me wrong, 581 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: I've seen millions of football games before in person. It's 582 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: that atmosphere around the Super Bowl, the party's happening, the 583 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: build up around it, I think would be the cool part. 584 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 3: You know, where my seat was for the Super Bowl. 585 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: It was in the auxiliary press box, which was literally 586 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: at the very top row of the stands in temp 587 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: BA Sun Devil Stadium, which which wasn't bad. I mean, 588 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: you're there to work and you can see fine from there. 589 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: That's one thing about football. You can see it from 590 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: a top of the state of perspective and not really 591 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: miss what's going on. But and of course I was 592 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: the only person that went there for the post because 593 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: that wrote two stories a day every day. You know 594 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: my story about how I was, you know, working for WWN, 595 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: and I recruited Kevin Green to be in Halkogan's Corner 596 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: midweek in Vegas on a on a primetime special on TBS. 597 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: It was a Steelers day off. We got a private 598 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: play and flew him up. Eric Bishop Boss. He was 599 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: so happy that I pulled that off, and it was 600 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: my idea in the first place. He had a seat 601 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: for me on the private plane. My idiot, Boss at 602 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: the Post Caaseet wouldn't let me go. You know what, 603 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: he said to me, You're down there to cover football, 604 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: not to screw around with wrestling. And then, of course 605 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: the next day, Haul Cogan, with Kevin Green in his corner, 606 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: was front page in USA Today, not sports, front page 607 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: of USA Today. And then he said maybe I should 608 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: have let you go, And I said, gee, you think so. 609 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention his name because he was a 610 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: nice guy, utterly incompetent boss, following in a long line 611 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: of incompetent bosses to the Post Gazette. 612 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: At least he at least admitted kind of that he 613 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: made a mistake there, because I'm sure there's a lot 614 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: of bosses that would have just been like, nah, I 615 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: was right anyway, don't care about wrestling. 616 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: It's the same guy who when I did a huge 617 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: page three takeout on the history and the execution of 618 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: the trap, he didn't like the diagram that I provided, 619 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: so he changed it, and when it got published, the 620 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: trapping team had six skaters, to which Craig Patrick, when 621 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: he saw me, I hadn't seen the diagram yet, he said, no, 622 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: wonder that works. 623 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: You can use six skaters. That's a great line. 624 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, Craig. Craig has his moments. He could be he 625 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: could be funny and uh. But but here's the best part. 626 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: I didn't draw the diagram. You know who faxed me 627 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: the diagram, Scottie Bowman. 628 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: This thing. 629 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: The Post Gazette didn't think that Scotty Bowman's diagram of 630 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: the trap was accurate, even though Scotty pretty much as 631 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: a sixty minute tactic, invented. 632 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: It and he personally sent that to you. Yeah, here 633 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: go Mark, use this for your article. 634 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: He because I'll faction something. Scotty great guy. I wish 635 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: I'd talked to him more. 636 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: Was so great to see him when he was in 637 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: town for the Penguins Hall of Fame. 638 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: I love Scotty, but he didn't know as much as 639 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: your editor at the Postseat or your boss the postt. 640 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: You know what, Actually that was a turning point because 641 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: when that happened, I I and that in them. I 642 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the World Cup fiasco where I went to Cleveland 643 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: covered the US in a preliminary game, you know, an 644 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: exhibition for the ninety four Wold Cup, and actually was 645 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: cool because Brad Friedel, the US goalie guess who bought him. 646 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: The day I was there, I got to write a 647 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: feature him on Freedol Yeah, talk to him, and then 648 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: covered the game two stories and they liked my work 649 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: so much that they decided they would keep me in 650 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: the office to edit everybody else's work because I knew 651 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: so much about soccer. Between that and the Trapp diagram, 652 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I said, you need to leave here, and I did. 653 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: And now I'm a millionaire. 654 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that guy who changed that diagram isn't 655 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: what five ninety x DX. We got news on who 656 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: did and didn't make the finalists among Steelers candidates for 657 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, emphasis on the didn't. 658 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: We'll get to that at the top of the hour, 659 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: but right now it's time for the trifect that brought 660 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: to us by Danny's, Peter and Hogies Family owned and operated. 661 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: It is nineteen sixty that's on Route eighty eight in 662 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Bethel Park, Tom, what do you got for today's trifecta? 663 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: Mark? I was pleased to find out this morning that 664 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: it is National Bacon Day. I don't know who decides 665 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: what day is a national day for things, but I'm 666 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: happy it's National Bacon I love bacon, So we're gonna 667 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: go with three bacon dishes, you know, dishes that feature bacon. 668 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: Number three, For me, I'm gonna go the bacon, egg 669 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: and cheese breakfast sandwich, A true staple for me. I'll 670 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: always say yes to one of those. Number two kind 671 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: of in a similar family, but for lunch slash dinner time. 672 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: The bacon cheeseburger. I think it just it emphasis or 673 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: it ups the cheeseburger's value, just a completely different level 674 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: with bacon on it. But my number one bacon featured 675 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: thing is bacon wrapped appetizers. I'm talking like bacon wrapped scallops. 676 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking like bacon wrapped you know, pigs and blankets, 677 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: stuff like that is number one. 678 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: All of those are great, great, great trifecta listings, but 679 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw one on top of all of them. 680 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: Pilet mignon wrapped in bacon. 681 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: Does that kind of count though it's not an appetizer though, 682 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: so I wouldn't be the bacon wrapped apps. 683 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: This is a bacon wrapped on Yes, I'll put that 684 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: on my list. Who was the best bacon cheeseburger among 685 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: fast food? 686 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: I like Wendy's. 687 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: Yea, the bacon. Yeah, the baconator is great. Uh what 688 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: was your first one? 689 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 1: Uh? 690 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: Like number one on the list, the breakfast sandwich, bacon 691 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: eg specifically, be specific, what do you want on it? Bacon, egg, cheese, 692 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: what kind of egg? Just you know, sunny side up egg, 693 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: No scrambled egg. I want a scrambled egg on it. 694 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: But I if you do like a sunny side up 695 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 2: egg where it gets a little drippy, I'm not opposed 696 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: to that either. But the scramble egg, the classics good 697 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: bagel as far as what I wanted on is the 698 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: preference English muffin. You like the English muffins. I'm not 699 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: gonna fight you on an englishmuffin easier to bite through. Yeah, 700 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: bagels are a little bit thicker, but I love a 701 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: good bagel. 702 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: Bacon on everything, like bacon mash on, Like a baked 703 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: potato with with sour cream and chives, bacon cheese. 704 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: That's the thing about a baked potato. 705 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: A baked potato is like carb hell in the first place, 706 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: and then when you junk it up, it like can 707 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: stop your heart. 708 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: But it's so good. 709 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. What about like bacon desserts. Do you 710 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: ever do that, like when you put like bacon on 711 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: maple sundae ice creams? 712 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: Bad? Make? 713 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I tried. I tried chocolate covered bacon. I talked about 714 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: it in the air, and a confection or sent it 715 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: to him. I mean, it was awful. I think there's 716 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: some things you just can't mix. I've had donuts with 717 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: like crumbled bacon on the frosting. 718 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: No, no way, I might be toying with that, but 719 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm anti that as well. Do you like bacon, egg 720 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: and cheese on a biscuit that's kind of more in 721 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: the English muffin realm where it's easier to bite into 722 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: like croissant, like a croissant biscuit as the bread. 723 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: I would prefer croissant to like a bagel, a buttermilk 724 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: type biscuit. Okay, Okay, yeah I would. I would rank 725 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: English muffin first, croissants san second. Correct, And now I 726 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: wish we had some bacon. 727 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: Okay. 728 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Steeler fans, some bad news coming up as far as 729 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame prospects for some of your heroes. 730 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to that just around the corner here on 731 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: one oh five ninety