1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: It's Night Sodded with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: As I look at my calendar, I'm reminded that we 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: are getting close to halfway through February, so the year 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: is not like going by real quickly. However, however, we've 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: rolled already almost a month and a half off of 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: the calendar, and that is a whole lot of ground 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: to cover. And I would like to take a little 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: time tonight to talk about the fight that continues at 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: the State House. And for those of you who are 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: unfamiliar with the fight, yeah, they're on the radio, and 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you about someone at the State 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: House who's elected official State Auditor, Diana Desauglio, who is 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: fighting on behalf of everyone here in the Cormwealth of Massachusetts. 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: And yesterday the State Auditor filed a emotion and action 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: in the State Supreme Court in front of a single justice, 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: asking for the right for her to go in front 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: of the Supreme Supreme Court here in Massachusetts to enforce 18 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: the action that seventy two percent of the voters in 19 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Massachusetts approved in the election of twenty twenty four. The 20 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: issue and I think most of you are familiar with 21 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: It was a ballot question in which she asserted as 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: the state auditor, her belief that she had a right 23 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: she was elected state auditor in twenty twenty two, that 24 00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: she had the right to audit the state legislature. Now, 25 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Diana Desauglio has an interesting set of credentials. She was 26 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: an assistant. She worked as a staffer for a state representative. 27 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: While she was in the legislature. As a young aide, 28 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: she was sexual harassed and she stood up. She was 29 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: not a favorite amongst the boys at the state legislature. 30 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: It just so happened that the candidate or the representative 31 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: she worked for, decided that she would leave the legislature. 32 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: So Diana went ahead and ran for the seat and 33 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: was elected. She then was elected to the state Senate 34 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: and then in twenty twenty two our auditor. In Many 35 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: people don't know that there is a constitutional office of auditor. 36 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: We have six constitutional offices in Massachusetts. Sometimes I think 37 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: I'm a Civics teacher here, but I think it's important 38 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: for people to understand. We elect six people in Massachusetts statewide. 39 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: We also elect two senators, so they are elected obviously 40 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: to the United States Senate. Warren in Marquee, and we 41 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: have members of Congress nine who are elected to the 42 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: US House of Representatives in Washington. All of those members 43 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: of Congress in the House of Representatives represent a district. 44 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: They represent about eleven percent of the voters in Massachusetts. 45 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: People who are elected statewide, whether it's the governor, the 46 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor, the attorney general, the state treasurer, the Secretary 47 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: of State, or the state auditor, are elected statewides. We 48 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: have eight people, six elected statewide to what's called constitutional 49 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: offices here in Massachusetts, and two who are elected to 50 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: represent the state in the US Senate in Washington. Now, 51 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: why is that important. That's important because people who are 52 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: elected to the House of Representatives in Massachusetts, which Desauglia 53 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: wants to audit, there are one hundred and sixty seats 54 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives. At any given time. There 55 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: can be some absences either from people being rejected by 56 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: the voters and and well they would be, they would 57 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: be they would be then replaced by someone else. But 58 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: there are people die in office, people decide to leave office, 59 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: people who are indicted in office. So there are there's 60 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: when when that capacity there are one hundred and sixty 61 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: members of the state House of Representatives, so they represent 62 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: each state representative district represents less than one percent of 63 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: the population. So if you're a state rep in Massachusetts, 64 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: you represent personally less than one percent of the population. 65 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 2: If you're a state senator, there are forty state senators. 66 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: Do the math. You represent two and a half percent 67 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: of the population. Diana Dezaglio represents one hundred percent. Not 68 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: that one hundred percent voted for her, but she was 69 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: elected very comfortably. But most importantly, her calling card was 70 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: this initiative petition that said the legislature, in the persons 71 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: of the House Speaker Ron Mariano and the Senate President 72 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: in the person of Karen Spilkup, they don't want her 73 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: to do her job, which is to audit, amongst other things, 74 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: the legislature. And that made it very clear they basically 75 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: have thumb their nose at Desauglio, even though seventy two 76 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: percent of the voters in Massachusetts said audit the legislature. Now, 77 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things about the legislature that you 78 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: and I don't know about. One of the things that 79 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: we don't know about are what are called NDA's non 80 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: disclosure agreements. If you work at the state legislature and 81 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: you get into some sort of a disagreement, or if 82 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: you're harassed and you decide that you're going to try 83 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: to sue a member of the state legislature, oftentimes the 84 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: leadership will come and say, look, we don't need to 85 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: sully the immaculate reputation of the state legislature, so why 86 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: don't we have a settlement and we will pay you. Well, 87 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: we won't pay you. The taxpayers at Massachusetts will pay you. 88 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: But the one thing that we require, once we agree 89 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: upon whatever the amount of money that you feel is fair, 90 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: is that you need to sign a non disclosure agreement. 91 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: So no one can ever talk to you, interview you, 92 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: you can't write a book about the money that you received. That, 93 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: of course was done with the Church pedophile priest crisis 94 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: as well. Now, non disclosure agreements had their purpose, but 95 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: with the Catholic Church, some of the priests were transferred 96 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: subsequently to other parishes where they re offended and took 97 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: advantage of children. But that's the downside of non disclosure agreements. 98 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: The point is that Desaglio is a courageous leader. She 99 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: now has gone before the State Supreme Court, and she 100 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: wants to be able to get the court to look 101 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: at the law which was passed by people like you 102 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: and me seventy two percent, and have the law order, 103 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: have the court order the House Speaker and the Senate 104 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: President to open their books. It's as simple as that. Now, 105 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: one of the problems is that the Attorney General, who 106 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: normally would represent the other constitutional officers because she is 107 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: a constitutional officer, she's made it very clear that she 108 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: will not support Disauglia in this question. You might say, well, why, 109 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why the Attorney 110 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: General of the Comwealth would not want to open up 111 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: the books of the legislature. I can tell you this 112 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: that the Attorney General, like every other constitutional office officer, 113 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: her budget is approved by the state Legislature, and of 114 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: course her budget, like anything else, is submitted by the governor. 115 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: So the only one up there who is fighting on 116 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: the bottom line is very simple. The only one up 117 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: there who is fighting on behalf of you and me 118 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: and upon the seventy two percent of the electorate here 119 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts who voted in twenty twenty four to audit 120 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: the state legislature. Is auditor Diana Dezauglio. So I was 121 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: going to call her tonight and have her come on 122 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: and talk about it. But we've talked about it a 123 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: couple of times, and I would like to get a 124 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: sense of my audience. Is this a fight that you 125 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: think Diana Dezaglio should continue. I firmly believe that, because 126 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: I believe that eventually, somehow, some way here in Massachusetts, 127 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: the good guys or the good women have to win one. 128 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: She is the standard bearer in this fight. And I 129 00:09:53,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: don't understand. I frankly don't understand why the legislature or 130 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: as a group don't want to be audited unless there's 131 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: really a lot of stuff they don't want us to 132 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: see it. That's the only thing that I can think of. 133 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: Maybe some of you can tell me another good reason 134 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: why the legislature would not say, Hey, we run a 135 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: clean shop up here. She wants to commit and audit 136 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: our books. We'll open up our books and she can 137 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: see whatever she wants. She's not going to see anything 138 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: out of the way. I would hope that that is 139 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: what they would say. The fact that they don't want 140 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: to be like if the irs called you and said 141 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: we want to open up your books, and you said, well, 142 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm not open them up my books to you. What 143 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? How long do you think it 144 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: would take for the irs to be able to go 145 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: into a court and get you audited. Not long. I'm 146 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: going to open up the lines here. And this is 147 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: one that I feel really strongly about. I think she's 148 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: the most Diana Tusuglio is the single most courageous politician 149 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: elected politician we have in Massachusetts, Republicans or Democrats alike. 150 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: For the Republicans are in the Vassman minority at at 151 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: the State House, to say hey, we want this, we 152 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: want that. For her to take on the leadership of 153 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: her own party, I think that's extraord You talk about 154 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: a profile encourage, the Kennedy Library should be giving a 155 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: profile courage, in my opinion, to the State Order of Massachusetts, 156 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: Diana Desaglio. She does not have, in my opinion, some 157 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: form of personal agenda in play. She wants to do 158 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: her job. She is the state Auditor. That's her job. 159 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: The title says it all. So I want to hear 160 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: from as many of you as possible on this issue. 161 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: If you think the state Legislature is right in saying nope, 162 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: we're going to keep all of our stuff hidden and 163 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: we are not opening up our books, and we're certainly 164 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: not opening up the books that we think she wants 165 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: the same feel free. I'd love to hear someone explain 166 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: that argument to me. Or on the other hand, if 167 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: you think that she's right, and that that for all 168 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: of the talk that all of these politicians engage in 169 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: about transparency, there's very little transparency on peak and hill, 170 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: transparency of their motives. I think I got it. I 171 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: want to hear from you six one seven two thirty 172 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine one ten thirty. Let's let us 173 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: just tonight spend some time supporting Diana and Dizaglio and 174 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: getting the message to our state reps and to the 175 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: state leave the leadership, the legislative leadership, Mariano and Spelka 176 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: that times they are a changing and we want transparency. 177 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Opened the books to the state auditor. Diana Dezaglio join 178 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: the conversation back right after a couple of quick messages. 179 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Boston's news radio. 180 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to calls. And this is one 181 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: that I want to hear from you on and this 182 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: is one that you probably voted for, and your vote 183 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: doesn't mean a thing to Speaker Mariano or to State 184 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: Senate President Spilker. Their attitude is they will do what 185 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: they want, irrespective of what seventy two percent of the 186 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: people who voted in the twenty twenty four election have 187 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: instructed them to do. Let me go to Jim rather 188 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: John in Dedham, Hey, John, welcome next on Night Side 189 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: and I. 190 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: Podcast. 191 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: We got hold on, John, hold on, you really muffled here. 192 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Do me a favor. Let me I'm not sure if 193 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: you're talking into the mouthpiece or not, but Rob, why 194 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: don't you work with John to get him set up 195 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: and we'll come right back to him. Okay, we'll come 196 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: right back to John in the meantime. Let me go 197 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: to Jim in Hyde Park. Jimmy, you were next on Nightside, 198 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: Go right ahead. 199 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: I did. Hey, it's a subject of this is a 200 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 4: subject of very interestident Jen. Don't we have something called 201 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: a Freedom of Information Act? 202 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: Yes we do, Yes we do. But I think with 203 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: the Freedom of Information Act you have to almost ask 204 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: the question in a certain way to get any sort 205 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: of response. What she wants to do is to go 206 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: in and open up the books. She's the state auditor. 207 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: That's what her job is to make sure that money 208 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: is being appropriated and spent correctly. And they don't want 209 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: her knows it around and their business is really what 210 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,239 Speaker 2: it comes down to, to be honest. 211 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: With you, Keen. I've been a resident of Bosts now 212 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: for sixty three years. I've been audited to once and 213 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: I love Bosks yep. And if I was honored and 214 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: these guys, says, are representative who can't be aunted? 215 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: Who are they? 216 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 5: Well? 217 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: What happens is the way the system is set up 218 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: is that the Speaker and the Senate President rule with 219 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: an iron thumb. They pretty much do what they want. 220 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: They give out committee assignments and if you get, if 221 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: you're lucky enough to get a committee assignment, you get 222 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: extra money above and beyond your salary as a member 223 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: of the legislature. Uh. They're they're able to give out 224 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: favors to these uh to these members, so they they 225 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: really have great influence, a lot of power. Uh. It's 226 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: not any a type of a democratic small D democratic 227 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: group where the speaker says, Okay, we're going to have 228 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: a vote on X. How many people agree, how many no, no, no, no. 229 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: They decide what what bills come up for a vote, 230 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: They decide what bills come out of committee, what bills 231 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: get a hearing. It's a very uh speaker centric and 232 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: Senate president centric legislative bodies. And because of the power 233 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: that because of the power that they have, Jim, most 234 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: of the people who go up there are are are 235 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: bigging for crumbs. I want this for my district or 236 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: I want this, and they have to they have to 237 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: march to the tune that the House Speaker and the 238 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: Senate President tell them to march to. 239 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: Well, we put them there. Dare they forgot that? 240 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, we put him there. But what happens is most 241 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: of the people who get put there are people that 242 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: that you like in the community. You meet them and 243 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: and and you feel confident in them. But this stuff 244 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: that goes on up there behind closed doors or goes 245 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: or goes on out on the on the House of 246 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: the Senate floor, it doesn't get covered much anymore. I mean, 247 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: the newspapers are up there, but the TV stations have 248 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: pretty much abandoned, you know, real real deep coverage up 249 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: at the State House. So the legislative leaders had their 250 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: way and right now they're saying to all of us 251 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: who voted for Desauglio to have the opportunity to do 252 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: her job, which is to audit, amongst other things, the 253 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: state legislature. But they're saying no, and they're not letting her. 254 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: They're not letting her through that door. And she's now 255 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: going into the court to try to see if the 256 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: court will do something. But guess who provides the funding 257 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: for the court. Not the state auditor, but the state legislature. 258 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: So if you're on the court and you have this 259 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: state auditor coming up trying to shape things up on 260 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: the legislature, you know, you might look at it and say, 261 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: why do we want to rule for her? Because she 262 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: can't do anything for us. But those legislators, the legislative leadership, 263 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: can cut our budget, you know, pretty easily. So that's 264 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: where the power is. 265 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 6: Again. 266 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: I wish are much success and sureous support her. 267 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: I know you do, Jim. Jim, I appreciate your call. 268 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: Thanks for having the guts to call up. And I 269 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: lived in Reidville for a long long time, so I 270 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time playing baseball at Rossfield. I'm 271 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: sure you know where Rossfield is high well, I can't 272 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: tell you how many times I played baseball there as 273 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: a kid and as a teenager. Trust me. Okay, thanks Jim, great, 274 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: great dear for me. Talk to you soon, all right, 275 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: Gon take quick break. We have one line at six months, 276 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: seven two thirty. We're going to get back to John 277 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: right after the news. I promised John, hopefully your line 278 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: has got clear up. And also six one seven, nine 279 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: three one, ten thirty. I'm looking for a full throated 280 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: chorus of support for Diana Dezaglio because if we don't 281 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: have a full throated chorus supporting her, uh, the Senate 282 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: President and the House Speaker might say, well, if people 283 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: don't care, why do we have to do anything. The 284 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: only way to make them comply with what we voted for, 285 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: which was an audit of the legislature, is to let 286 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 2: them know. And this is the way to let them 287 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 2: know through a talk show. Let them know that they 288 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: are now on the clock and they need to cooperate 289 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: and follow what the voters in Massachusetts are demanding. Only 290 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: line that's open right now over just one dropped off 291 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: six one seven, two five four ten thirty. That's open 292 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty Back on 293 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Nightside right after the news. 294 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'll Boston's news Radio. 295 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: All right, we got John back and hopefully we got 296 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: his line cleaned up. John. I hope the audio is 297 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: better now. We always want to hear what people say. 298 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: Go right ahead, John, Hi. 299 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: Dan, hopefully this is a little better. Sorry about that 300 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: much better? 301 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: What was going on before? It's it sounded like you, 302 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, under water or something. 303 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: I think I had. 304 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: I was had to hold the phone the wrong hands. 305 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: I was across my mouth and that's republic cause. 306 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: But you talk on the cell phone a lot, so 307 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: just relaxing. What's your take on this? Go ahead? 308 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: I'll say this a while back, I don't know how 309 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: you are carved your podcast uh way before. I think 310 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: it was before doge I suggested you guys spend at 311 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: least one hour a week on government waste, fraud and abuse. 312 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: And it just seems like it's more and more we 313 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: hear about this. And I'll say this, two of my 314 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: favorite guests are Diana Savio and Governor candidate. 315 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 6: Shortly. 316 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: When they come on your station, they they're well, they're articulate, 317 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: well spoken, and they support their arguments and positions with facts. 318 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what what is it? Diane is a Democrat, 319 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: as you know, she's not. I mean, she's making a 320 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: lot of enemies in the Democratic Party. I think if 321 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: she decided to run for governor as an independent, she 322 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: could easily become governor. You know, not this term, because 323 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: I think the election is almost upon us, but in 324 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight it could be governant as Auglio. I'm 325 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: surprised that Governor Healy is not giving her any support 326 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: as well on this one. But again, what that speaks 327 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: to is the power of the office of Speaker and 328 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: of the office of the Senate President. They do, you know, 329 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: wage a substantial cloud up there, and they're defying the 330 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: will of the voters seventy. 331 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: They're probably the first people to say Republicans or Trump 332 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: is affect to democracy, and here they are totally arguing 333 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: against democracy. I mean, it's almost leader speechless, Like how 334 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: they can deny this is there is your station even 335 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: try to get any of these people on the air 336 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: to ask them directly why you refuse to let her audit? 337 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 3: I mean, just it seems black and white, doesn't it. 338 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: It's very black and white there's no question about it. 339 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I will have uh, Mariano or Spilka on 340 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: any night they want, But I'm not going to have 341 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: my producer literally waste her time calling and submitting requests 342 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: to people who I they have no interest. You don't. 343 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: You don't ever hear them, uh, you know, in any 344 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: sort of a situation where where they're where they can 345 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 2: be questioned, Absolutely not, you know. And that's I think 346 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: that's I think that's that is that itself is a 347 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: threat to democracy. That's that's what that is. In my opinion, 348 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: it's an absolute threat to democracy. And as a matter 349 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: of fact, I was reading the Globe today, I'm trying 350 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: to find the item the point that you were making. 351 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to try to see if I can find 352 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: it here. The Yeah, Spilker's office referred the Globe. She 353 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't even talk to the Globe. To Democratic State Senator 354 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: Cindy Friedman, who chairs a subcommittee formed in response to 355 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: the ballot question, why would we need a subcommittee formed 356 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: in response to a ballot question? The voters have spoken. 357 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: When you think about it, think how sort that is? 358 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: So let me continue the Globe article. Friedman pointed out 359 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: that Disaglio declined to testify before the Senate subcommittee, and 360 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: that information she provided has been vague at best. The 361 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: voters were pretty clear about how they voted. Okay, Friedman said, 362 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: we must assume the audio his intentions are purely political. 363 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: The Arlington Democrats said, at a time when constitutional norms 364 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: are being challenged nationally, now you know what she's referring 365 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: to there, John, exactly what you just alluded to. We 366 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: cannot allow them, meaning constitutional norms to be undermined here 367 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. Well, what a croc. 368 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: If any entity individual who is paid by is in 369 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: public service or paid by tax dollars. And I really 370 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 3: don't care for any NDAs should be open to audit. 371 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I think of. 372 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: There's no questions. But here's the but, John, the real 373 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: question is you and I and seventy two percent of 374 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: the voters voted for that. You know, Donald Trump won 375 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: the presidential election nationwide. He called it like a landslide. 376 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: He had fifty percent of the vote, seventy two percent 377 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: of the vote in Massachusetts. Said you know, allow the 378 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: auditor to do her job. And here you have this, 379 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: this state senator saying that that we must assume the 380 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: auditor's intentions are purely political. Why would we assume that 381 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Senator Freedman at a time when constitutional norms are being 382 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: challenged nationally. You know, just think Donald Trump. We cannot 383 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: allow them to be up to mighty in Massadusetts. These people, 384 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: the Democrats, are undermining the constitutional norms themselves. It's hilarious. 385 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: If it wasn't so sad, I. 386 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: Was just about to say, if I wasn't so serious, 387 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: it's to be comical. Yeah, And I think about that. 388 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 3: Remember that big project of all the rest stops that 389 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: was awarded to them and then it fell apart. I mean, 390 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there. Does anybody? 391 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: I know what happened there. I know what happened there 392 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: because we cover that story very closely. We worn very closely. 393 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: And and the the company Global, which is a Massachusetts company, 394 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: a fortune five hundred company that that really got i'm 395 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: gonna say got shafted. They decided to go to court 396 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: and challenge it. And as soon as everybody understood this 397 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: is going to court, the the Irish company withdrew and 398 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: said we won the contract, we don't want it anymore. 399 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: And shortly thereafter the Secretary of Transportation here in Massachusetts, 400 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: whose name was uh tibbet nuts or something like that 401 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: was her literally was her name. She resigned court to 402 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: hear that. Yes, well you've got to be listening tonight'side 403 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: to get that as. 404 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: Much as I can. And that's where I get most 405 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: of my legitimate information. 406 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's what we're doing tonight. And I want people 407 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: to call up and and and and echo what you 408 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: had to say. John, Thanks for calling back. And next 409 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: time you call, you know, make sure you hold the 410 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: phone in the right hand. You're correct hand. Okay, thanks 411 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: so much, Great night, good night, six four ten thirty 412 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: one line there, six one seven nine three thirty. This 413 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: is outrageous. And by the way, I don't care if 414 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, I don't care if you 415 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: consider yourself a moderate Democrat, a progressive Democrat. Win seventy 416 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: two percent of the voting public in Massachusetts, the same 417 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: group that you know voted against Donald Trump, which is fine. 418 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: You have people who are Republicans, Democrats, and independents. Seventy 419 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: two percent sent allowed the state auditor to do her job. 420 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: And you have two people, the Senate President and the 421 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: House Speaker who are putting up a roadblock to that 422 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: that is unacceptable in my opinion. Let me go next 423 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: to Joe and Lynn. Joe, I'll get you here before 424 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: the break, go right ahead. 425 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 6: Your thank you very much for taking my call. And 426 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 6: I like Diane. This all was good. You know, I'm 427 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 6: not I'm independent, but she's a good Democrat. And I 428 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 6: like short sleep and I hope to meet them and 429 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 6: talk to them privately because I'm not good on the inset, 430 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 6: but I like her. She's open minded, she's willing to 431 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 6: talk to people. She's willing to learn if she's wrong. 432 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 6: But explain to me about this article on the Globe. 433 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 6: Is it true she refused to testify? And if so, 434 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 6: why I don't understand that you mentioned that? 435 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: Well, that is that is what a Democratic senator claimed. Okay. Now, 436 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: first of all, she does not have to. It would 437 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: be like if let's say the I R S wrote 438 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: you a letter and said, you know what, Joe, we 439 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: we've looked at your your your tax filings and we 440 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: want to audit you. Okay. Uh, you You then have 441 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: no authority to say to the I R S. Okay, 442 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: then here's what we're gonna do. I'm going to form 443 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: a committee of my neighborhood here, and why don't you 444 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: come over and talk to my neighborhood about why you're 445 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: gonna audit me? And then I'll have a vote amongst 446 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: my neighbors to figure out whether or not we're going 447 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: to allow you to audit me. They're gonna say no, no, no, Son, 448 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: that's not the way it works. We do audits of people, 449 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: and we will be auditing you. Why should the state 450 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: auditor whose job is to audit have to justify her 451 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: auditor under state legislature. That's an insult. That's an insult. 452 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: It's like it would be the equivalent job of a 453 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: police officer coming up to you and saying, roll down 454 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: your window. I'm not rolling down my window because I 455 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: know you want to give me a ticket, and if 456 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: I roll down my window, I'll have to you'll be 457 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: able to put that ticket in my car. So why 458 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 2: did you stand out there in the rain and when 459 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: you get tired, you can walk away and I'll drive away. 460 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: That's not the you know, well, Dan. 461 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 7: Dan, if this comes out, there's going to be a 462 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 7: lot of trouble, a lot of removals, resign maybe some 463 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 7: jail time, because I think this is really serious and. 464 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: I'm proud of this woman. I'm normally not proud of Democrats, 465 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 6: but she's a good Democrat and a good human being, and. 466 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: I want she's a great elected official, she's a great 467 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: public servant, and I want to hear from as many 468 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: people as possible. 469 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 6: And one thing before I go, I said, send you 470 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 6: email a couple of days. So you told me to 471 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 6: her mind, you don't forget the ride. 472 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: You know, I will get to the ride, and I'm 473 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: going to bring Brian Kine in on that. 474 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 6: Because we're having a lot of problems. As you know. 475 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: Look, you're not the only person who's complained about the ride, 476 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: and I agree with you. I don't take I am 477 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: not in a position where I have to rely upon 478 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: the ride. But people who I'm told by people that 479 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: they're told they have to be if they're going to 480 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: an appointment. Let's say their appointment is that, I don't know, 481 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: ten o'clock in the morning, they're told that the ride 482 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: has to pick them up even though their appointment is 483 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: like five minutes away, So they have to wait outside 484 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: for you know, at seven o'clock in the morning. 485 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 6: And the ride won't bring you in see we agree 486 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 6: and dissent. 487 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: We just allow that. But thank you for the reminder. 488 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 6: Thank you, great, take care, great bye, good night. 489 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: Six one seven two thirty, six one seven, nine three 490 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Got some open lines here, folks. Don't 491 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: give the legislative leaders any belief that somehow you don't 492 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: care about this issue, or maybe you don't. If you 493 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: don't care about this issue, don't call uh. But if 494 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: you do care about the issue, I'd like to hear 495 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: your voice tonight. Six one seven, two four ten thirty 496 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Not only 497 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: is it your money that we're talking about, but you 498 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: voted in an election in which seventy two percent of 499 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: the people voted for the auditor simply to have the 500 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: authority to do her job. The only reason that question 501 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: was on the ballot was because the state, the Senate president, 502 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: and the Speaker of the House had stonewalled Diane Disauglio. 503 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: So if you think that's a good action, uh, and 504 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: that that that Disauglia was being told you know you 505 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: can't do your job. And if you think that's good 506 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: for Carmlwalth and Massachusetts and for the voters and the taxpayers. 507 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: Then then sit on your hands and don't call. If 508 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: you agree with me or if you want to make 509 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: an argument about the legislature. I'm willing to entertain an argument, 510 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: but I prefer to hear a chorus of support for 511 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: Diane Desauglio six seven two five four thirty six one 512 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: seven nine. I've said to you before, this is Nightside 513 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: with Dan Ray. This is not the Dan Ray Show. 514 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: You know how I feel. I want to know how 515 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: you feel coming back on night Side. 516 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's News. 517 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: Ready to back to the phones to go, Let's go 518 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: to Joe and Boston. Hey, Joe next on nights. I 519 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: appreciate you calling Ajee. 520 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 8: Thank you Dan. I'm an old man and I'm just 521 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 8: a little confused, and I think maybe you might be 522 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 8: able to help me. 523 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 524 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 6: My question is. 525 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 8: What attorney is representing the people of the commonwealth in 526 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 8: Dianda's Auglio's suit against the legislature and where was the 527 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 8: attorney general in this picture? 528 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: Well, the attorney general is trying to block Dezaglio's effort 529 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: to audit the state legislature. As I tried to explain, earlier, 530 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: So I tried to explain earlier. The legislature is probably 531 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts the most powerful branch of government, because it 532 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: is the is the funding branch. So we now have 533 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: a sixty two billion dollar state budget, and the budget 534 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: is controlled by the House Speaker and the Senate President. 535 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: The governor is not a governor who's who's looking to 536 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: take have fights with other Democratic leaders. She at this 537 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: point has plenty of of fights to handle with President 538 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: Trump and all of that. Her focus is, I think 539 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more nationally than it is in terms 540 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: of Massachusetts. I think that's wrong. I happen to think 541 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: Governor Heally is a decent person. 542 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 8: But I think I'm asking about the governor. What I'm 543 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 8: asking about is where is the attorney General. 544 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: Well, the Attorney General has basically told Dezaglio that she 545 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: will not allow her office, the office of Attorney General, 546 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: to represent Dosaglio. So Dizaglio at this point could not 547 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: even hire another lawyer without the consent of the Attorney General. 548 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: So she now has gone directly to the state Supreme 549 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: Court to what they call it kind of what I 550 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 2: refer to as the Gatekeeper Statute, in which she's asking 551 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: a single justice to authorize the appointment of a lawyer 552 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: to represent her in front, in front of the entire 553 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: seven member Attorney General. It's what happens is, to be 554 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: really honest with you, Joe, is this is a little 555 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: in the weeds, and it is a little difficult to explain. 556 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: But look, what do they say. Follow the money well 557 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: controls the purse strings in Massachusetts, the legislature, who funds 558 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: the Attorney General's office, the legislature. You know. I mean, 559 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: it's as plain as to those on your face if 560 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: you think about it, That's all I'm saying. 561 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 8: And Okay, so I think I got it. She does 562 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 8: not have a lawyer represent representing us. She's asking for 563 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 8: them to appoint somebody to represent them right now. 564 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 2: She has she has, she has lawyers who have stepped 565 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: forward and said they would represent her, you know, for free. 566 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: But but she still needs the the the authority from 567 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: the Attorney general who is withholding that authority. Unbelievable, well, unbelievable, 568 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: But welcome to Massachusetts. Thanks Joe, appreciate it. Have a 569 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: great night, good night. Let me go to By the way, 570 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 2: it's not easy for to explain. It's not easy for 571 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: people to absorb Warren and fall river Warren. You're next 572 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: time Nightsacker, right ahead. 573 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, I think the biggest question is why why 574 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 5: why are they blocking? Well you know, what what purpose 575 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: does blocking have to do? 576 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 9: I mean, okay, let me explain it. 577 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: Let me explain it. Well, well, well, look if if 578 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: the I like to use the I R S. Example, Okay, 579 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: if the I R S wrote you a letter and said, Warren, 580 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 2: we've looked at your tax returns and we have some 581 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: serious questions. We want to audit your tax returns. Do 582 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: you have the authority to say to the I R S. Oh, whoa, 583 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: whoa Wait a second, hold it, wait a second. You 584 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: don't kind of audit me? Of course not. That's the 585 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: that's the I R S's job now, because she's a 586 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: constitutional officer, the state auditor. She tells the legislature I 587 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: want to audit you, and the leadership of the legislature says, 588 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 2: no way. So why should they be able to prevent 589 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: the auditor from doing her job? 590 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 9: And they should not be making up their own rules. 591 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 10: They cannot make up their own rules. 592 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: Well, they're doing it, and they've been doing it now 593 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: for a year and a half. 594 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 10: Yep, and I hope, I hope he's ugly gets them 595 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 10: and I hope you know, if it, if it uncover 596 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 10: is a a whole ton of corruption, a lot of 597 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 10: people are gonna go to jail. 598 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not even saying that she's assuming 599 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: that that she's going to uncover. Theoretically she could. She 600 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 2: could conduct an auditor and say, hey, look they're doing 601 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 2: everything above board. I'm happy with that. But they don't 602 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: want that to happen. You know, if if the I R. 603 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: S came and said to me, we're going to audit you, 604 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, well, of course you're gonna if 605 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: you want to, you can. You know you're not going 606 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: to find anything. Here's my here's my CPA. I've told 607 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 2: my CPA for years and years and years overpay. I'd 608 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: rather sleep well at night overpay. And if if the 609 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: analogy is the same, it's the same. They they have 610 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 2: the political power to say no way, but. 611 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I mean but they you know, if 612 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 9: seventy of the state said, you know what, you know, 613 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 9: you know, we would love to see a oh. 614 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 2: If there's no iss about it, Warren, there's no seventy 615 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: two percent of the state specifically voted for her to 616 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: have the authority and for basically the state legislature to 617 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: respect the law and follow the law. Warren, I'm up 618 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: against it. Thank you so much for calling. Thank you 619 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: very much. I would like to talk to this about 620 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: this into the next hour. If you have some guts 621 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: and you want to call six one, seven, two, five, 622 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten 623 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: thirty last hour, not a single female call. I don't 624 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 2: understand that. Join the conversation back after the eleven o'clock 625 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: news here on night Side