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Speaker 2: All right, guard to him for Barrero today. Dan, we'll

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Speaker 5: The top story, the most breaking story is the passing

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Speaker 2: Speaking of superstars, they don't get much bigger than Pat Kesler.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 3: He walks in like a superstar.

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Speaker 5: I wish the American media would take a great look

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Speaker 3: Pro America or anti America? Pat Kessler, because people have

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Speaker 3: I can't trust Obama. He's an Arab Passler.

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Speaker 6: Tear down on the dish waller.

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Speaker 3: I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis Airport.

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Speaker 7: Senator yor no, Jack Kennedy.

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Speaker 8: Pat Kessler and now to help Dan break down all

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Speaker 8: the tough questions in politics. It's our own Pat Kessler

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Speaker 3: I feel like a supermodel, except like times.

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Speaker 7: Ten, it's channel.

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Speaker 4: With Dan Morera.

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Speaker 2: Well, Brett Blake Moore knows where the new treasure trove

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Speaker 10: Why are you doing this to me? Why am I

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Speaker 10: Those are two sexy men. Great to see you, sir,

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Speaker 3: Okay, is this I tell you something nice? And you

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Speaker 2: Instance, Well, you tilted your head in a way that

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Speaker 3: All right, look a little condescending. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Years ago, nine years ago. That's right.

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Speaker 2: What is the most embarrassing moment, or give us a

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Speaker 10: There are along the way. I'm telling you, there are

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, I do remember this now, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: and well, what and sometimes you misspeak and then that happens.

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Speaker 2: When was that, Brett? Were you listening to that? Are

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: I was trying to figure out what must if the

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Speaker 7: So I was actually doing stuff.

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Speaker 3: I trust the two of you to figure out. What

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Speaker 7: Are you going to announce it earlier? Today? We think?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to let us know?

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Speaker 7: Well, I just let you know.

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Speaker 3: Kessler loves it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to do a show, all right. This

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Speaker 2: is Bumper to Bumper, all right. This isn't my Little

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Speaker 2: my opinion, what I was asking you, Brett, did you

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Speaker 2: you got to be very care google Pat Kestler judge

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it? I want to hear.

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Speaker 10: All I'm saying is that in this business there are

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Speaker 2: That's why Hermantown take a high hockey game the second

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Speaker 2: We only play it this week because it's the state

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Speaker 3: I mean I've heard this every few weeks on this show.

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Speaker 3: No you have not.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well you've heard Hermantown. Yeah, yeah, you may have

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Speaker 10: I think it wasn't was it Billy Joel who wrote that.

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Speaker 10: I mean it was a classic song called Hermantown.

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Speaker 3: Did he really yeah, think about it? Oh, I just

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was called alan Town Allentown coming down to Allantown.

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Speaker 2: That's right, thank you. Remember I'm not as old as you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to dance, going to be as old.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get your record, even.

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Speaker 3: If you want to be, You're never going to be

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Speaker 2: So Lou Holtz passes away at eighty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: His family announced today. We had Pete n Jerry and

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Speaker 2: And Pete was really good talking about it. He sounded great. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was. Yeah, that's it's absolutely true

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Speaker 10: Than him is his father, John John Najerien was one

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Speaker 10: So I heard him say that doctor Najerian and Lou

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Tom Osborne and Nebras who he just

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Speaker 3: I think he nailed it.

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Speaker 10: And who knows, we might have had he stayed recruiting

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Speaker 10: to hear you say that that was when bowl games

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Speaker 3: Helped us out a lot, and God bless them.

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Speaker 3: Now, I think it.

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Speaker 2: It's hard for coaches to leave the Big Ten. There

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Speaker 2: tissue when he left because we all assumed, like you, well,

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Speaker 2: the next great coach is going to leave too, And

443
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 2: it hasn't happened really since then, but that legacy remains

444
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Speaker 2: kind of looming large over any coach that has any

445
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Speaker 2: success here at do you.

446
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Speaker 10: It's absolutely true because he left without anybody knowing that

447
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 10: this was going to happen. Boom, He's out of there,

448
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 10: and like I got a new boyfriend, and here I go.

449
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Speaker 2: And so that'll be cut up, by the way, we'll

450
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Speaker 2: hear that tomorrow in the morning. Yeah, just warning you.

451
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Speaker 10: I'm starting to feel very uncomfortable that one will be too.

452
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, tell us about your new boyfriend.

453
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Speaker 10: I'm to a point where sometimes people stop me on

454
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 10: the street all the time, no big deal, good for me,

455
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 10: what a great life, And they think I'm on the

456
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Speaker 10: morning show.

457
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: So you do a great job with those guys. That's

458
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Speaker 3: what That's what it's like.

459
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Speaker 10: What you know, I'm confused enough in my real life

460
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 10: to worry about I'm just laying out. So yeah, so

461
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 10: so going to Notre Dame was It's true. I always

462
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 10: do have in the back of my mind. I love PJ.

463
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 10: And I think he's done an incredible job with this program.

464
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 10: I sometimes think about that, But now I'm a man

465
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 10: of a certain age, and so now I'm thinking, you

466
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Speaker 10: know what is what would be better than this?

467
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Speaker 2: You?

468
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 10: You have all the tools to build a winning program,

469
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 10: and let's do it in basketball, hockey, football, whatever it is.

470
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 10: Where do you want to go where it's going to

471
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Speaker 10: be better? That's my Maybe I'm too much of a homer,

472
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 10: too much of a roof. Well, that's separates, is it?

473
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Speaker 10: Is it? UCLA? I mean, what is better? I mean

474
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Speaker 10: unless you're going to Alabama? Right, Well, here's what I'll

475
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Speaker 10: say though, Georgia. Let's just say, let's just use PJ

476
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Speaker 10: as an example. If PJ left this offseason or next offseason,

477
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 10: he's been here a decade, like, you can't say he

478
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 10: didn't put in the time, right, you can't say he

479
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 10: didn't put you know, his stamp on the program.

480
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Speaker 3: What made the the Holtz thing unique was he just.

481
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Speaker 2: Got here, everyone got excited, they go to a bowl game,

482
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: and just like that, he's gone.

483
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Speaker 3: It's true. So that's where I think that's where it

484
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: was sudden.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the breakup was so sudden, and the ascension was

486
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Speaker 2: so sudden. You heard Peter Nigerian talk about his group

487
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 2: was one in ten like two years before that, and

488
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: to play better the first year and then be seven

489
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: and five, yeah, which isn't like a crazy good record,

490
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: but great turnaround for Minnesota to do it that quickly.

491
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Speaker 2: So then to have all of that happen, you think,

492
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: here we are, we're seven and five like, and then

493
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Speaker 2: to have it just vanish and he's off to Notre

494
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Speaker 2: Dame and he wins a national title two years later.

495
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Speaker 10: All right, so here is I loved hearing Najerry and say,

496
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Speaker 10: then they're going to play the ballgame. So they and

497
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 10: Paul gild the athletic director, asks him if Lou Holtz,

498
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Speaker 10: would you be okay if Lou Holtz is going to

499
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Speaker 10: be the cut Hell no, that was great. I mean

500
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Speaker 10: he's cutthroat, that is cold.

501
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Speaker 2: That's what that is. You're a team, he's a team.

502
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Speaker 2: What do you remember about the Metrodome when it first started,

503
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: because that's the other it was so great, the other

504
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Speaker 2: part of the legacy that I don't think, like I

505
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: didn't know this until a couple of years ago, that

506
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: Holtz was a big proponent of that playing yes Appentrodome,

507
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Speaker 2: and I do remember that they had an option to

508
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Speaker 2: go back to Memorial Stadium, which was not in a

509
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Speaker 2: very good spot, and he said, we want to play

510
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Speaker 2: in the Dome.

511
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Speaker 3: Players want to play in the Dome.

512
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Speaker 10: I don't believe it. I mean I believe he said it,

513
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 10: but I don't believe it. Think about does anybody? Perhaps

514
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 10: our resident Dan Minnesota will let us know. But how

515
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 10: much would it have cost? And I kind of remember

516
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 10: to renovate Memorial Stadium, right, and it's nothing it is.

517
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 10: It's money falling out of the pockets of billionaires here

518
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Speaker 10: in Minnesota. Can you imagine what it would have been

519
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 10: like if they had done that relatively cheaply, inexpensively and

520
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 10: made it a world class facility. What I recall is

521
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Speaker 10: that it was not just Lou Holtz, but it was

522
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Speaker 10: all the business leaders here at the Unit Versity of

523
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Speaker 10: Minnesota and in the business community, including Sid Hartman on

524
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 10: the on the Star Tribune. Uh, it was many, Harvey McKay,

525
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 10: some of the big business leaders here, Lou Holtz.

526
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Speaker 3: It was like the cabal. Yeah, that's what it was.

527
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 10: All these guys got together and they decided that it

528
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 10: would be better. I never liked it from the get go.

529
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Speaker 10: But you are like a son to me. You're the

530
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 10: you know, you're much older than my children, but but

531
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Speaker 10: you are like a sun to me.

532
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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

533
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Speaker 10: My kids are really nostalgic for the Metro Dome. Yeah,

534
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 10: it was such great. I mean, how many Monster truck

535
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 10: events were there that that I attended. I'm sure you

536
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 10: went to a lot of basketball games for whatever it is. Yeah, concerts,

537
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 10: My kids love baseball at the metro Dome and they

538
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 10: talk about it fondly, remember it fondly.

539
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Speaker 3: Well, I have no good memories of it. That's other

540
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: than the World Series. That's it. But that's all we knew.

541
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Speaker 2: Like because I still I have the pennant that they

542
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: gave out in the last year of the Metrodome. Why

543
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't know my kids are going to throw that

544
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: away when I die in fifty years ago.

545
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Speaker 3: Why did Dad keep this? This was stupid.

546
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Speaker 2: I went the last Vikings game at the Metrodome and

547
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: I sat in Section one oh one, Row seven, where

548
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: my family had season tickets the games I grew up in,

549
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: and I was feeling nostalgic about it, but because it

550
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: was our place, Yes, it was our place for you young people.

551
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

552
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Speaker 2: In eighty seven ninety one, Game two series, Hurbeck pulls

553
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: Gant off the bag. I'm deep center field with my

554
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: uncle John, Like, I remember all of those.

555
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: Things absolutely, But.

556
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Speaker 2: They can't argue that it was a critical miss by

557
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: the you to go there and stay there big time

558
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: because we lost. I mentioned it with Brett earlier. I

559
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: grew up going to games there. They were at six

560
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: o'clock at night. As you remember, because there were no

561
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Speaker 2: TV to dictate it. It was it'll probably be an

562
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Speaker 2: MSc or whatever at six o'clock. Why is it at

563
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: six Because on September twelfth, when it's seventy four degrees

564
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: out in the fall, no one's going into the Metrodome

565
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: to watch college football.

566
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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. We'll put it at six. You

567
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: pull up it. I'm not in the sky. You ma

568
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: a lot with you before the game. I'm pulling up at.

569
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Speaker 2: Five forty five or going to our seats and we're

570
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: leaving right after the game. Now we have a vibe.

571
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Speaker 2: Now you're a part of that at Huntington, but it

572
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: took a while.

573
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Speaker 10: Well you know, yeah, we just have a couple of

574
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 10: doobies and we're in the We're in at the game.

575
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Speaker 3: We're in the game.

576
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Speaker 10: So back then, even when people came to the game,

577
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 10: they didn't come to the game.

578
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's sixty thousand people.

579
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Speaker 10: It's sad, right, and so there would be what would

580
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 10: there be thirty forty maybe if Wisconsin and Iowa maybe, yeah,

581
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 10: they'd bump it up. So yeah, so I don't have

582
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 10: great memories of that rip Lou Holtz. I mean good guy,

583
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 10: very funny guy, legendary name, loved it, legendary name.

584
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Speaker 2: Speaking of arenas, the Grand Casino Arena is due for

585
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: some upgrades and the new mayor of Saint Paul and

586
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 2: the wild Owner had a press conference about that earlier

587
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: in the week.

588
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts on that.

589
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the governor would have a press conference

590
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: for a bowl game appearance back when the Gophers would go.

591
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: The Minnesota governor had a different kind of press conference

592
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Speaker 2: or a different kind of appearance that we have to

593
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: speak about as well.

594
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: All of that is a part of your list.

595
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: Pat Kessler joins us or continues in studio where we can.

596
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 5: The fan welcome some great shows to the Ledge Amphitheater

597
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 5: this year. John Mulaney will be their August twenty second

598
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Speaker 5: and Blues Traveler in the Gym Blossoms will be their

599
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Speaker 5: September twelfth. Yea complete details on all of our upcoming

600
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Speaker 5: shows of the concert page, KAFA dot com, keywercolendar.

601
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Speaker 2: All Right, the reporting chops of Brett Blakemore and Mike

602
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: Mussman were in fact on point that Jonathan Allen has

603
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Speaker 2: been released by the Minnesota Vikings. A little breaking Vikings News.

604
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Speaker 2: I hope you didn't keep Alec Lewis from reporting on that. Well,

605
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: he joined us about forty minutes ago, but that would

606
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: be probably you know, that's one of the misses, right,

607
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the Vikings misses from the last couple

608
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: of years. So as Seaferr reminds us, Jonathan Allen, Aaron Jones,

609
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: and Javon Hargrave are all departing, that's gonna save six

610
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: point five million in cap space just talking about the

611
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: Jonathan Allen bit, and they are also at SEAFA reminds

612
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: us open to trading Jonathan Grenard.

613
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: So only time will tell. I'm starting to feel very uncomfortable,

614
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: and I think if.

615
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: You're Ryan Kelly the Viking Center, you should feel uncomfortable.

616
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Speaker 2: That is Pat Kesler from last segment. Pat Kesler from

617
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Speaker 2: this segment now joins us.

618
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Speaker 3: He is bad. That's really funny. It's good stuff. Is

619
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: just great stuff. It's really good stuff.

620
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: We were just talking about Memorial Stadium, the old Gopher

621
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: football stadium that now is the Aquatic Center and the

622
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: McNamara Alumni Center, which I that's how dumb I am.

623
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Speaker 3: Pat.

624
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Speaker 2: I always assumed that Memorial Stadium was kind of in

625
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: the vicinity of where the new stadium is Huntington Bank.

626
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Speaker 3: I never knew that.

627
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Well, I never knew that they built the Aquatic Center

628
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: inside Memorial Stadium at that at one point. Yeah, basically

629
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 2: to say we're never going back. You think you think

630
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: you can come back to the football that you.

631
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Speaker 10: Can't when you successfully launch your children and they go

632
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 10: off to school and then they go on build their

633
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 10: own lives and I turned their rooms into something else immediately,

634
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 10: or you move like a video like a video game room.

635
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: Yes, in my case, right.

636
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 10: Oh you did, yeah, with many different television monitors and everything.

637
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Speaker 3: And they never came back. Yeah, they never came back

638
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: to live there. Good for you. No, I didn't do that.

639
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: You should have tell me or remind us what the

640
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Wild and the City of Saint Paul are trying to

641
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: get done with the arena formerly known as the X

642
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Speaker 2: Grand Casino Arena.

643
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Grand Casino Arena.

644
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Speaker 10: I think in in general, I think people agree that

645
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 10: there needs to be some renovations. I mean, this thing

646
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 10: was built twenty six years ago, which isn't that crazy,

647
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 10: Yes it is. And I've been there many many times

648
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 10: in the last couple of years and it does need renovations.

649
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 10: The things are not exactly the way that I think

650
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 10: professional sports really want them to be.

651
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: Here's a deal.

652
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 10: So the new mayor, mayor her and the owner of

653
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 10: the Minnesota Wild, Leopold, want the state to contribute two

654
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 10: hundred million dollars in state funds as part of a

655
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 10: six hundred million dollar grand casino arena renovation. Now, once

656
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 10: again we're going to get into this because the Timberwolves

657
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 10: want a new arena, yep, the Wild.

658
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Speaker 3: Do the Vikings want one?

659
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Speaker 6: Yet?

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Speaker 3: Not yet? How about the Twins? The Twins no? Or

661
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: do they No? They don't, they don't.

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Speaker 10: Here's the thing that it seems like they're coming really

663
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Speaker 10: fast because Memorial Stadium when they built the Metrodome was

664
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Speaker 10: what seventy five years old old?

665
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so now we have rolling through a lot.

666
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 10: Of stadiums around the country and arenas and they're outdated

667
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 10: fairly quickly. The City of Saint Paul and the Minnesota

668
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 10: Wild would each contribute roughly one hundred and sixty two

669
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 10: million dollars. They want two hundred million from the state,

670
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Speaker 10: and then there would be some other contribution. But all

671
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 10: of this would be used for infrastructure, and that includes

672
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 10: things have changed quite a bit from twenty six years ago.

673
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 10: When it comes to streaming, when it comes to digital online,

674
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 10: all of that has to be Redone the locker rooms.

675
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 10: I've never been in the locker room, have you, Yes?

676
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 10: And the wild locker room very nice, it's I think

677
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 10: it's fine. I'm guessing is what they're smaller than they

678
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 10: would like.

679
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: That would be my guess.

680
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then redo all the arena seating, just redo

681
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 10: the whole thing. We're not talking about a tear down

682
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 10: and build up. This is less money than they asked

683
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 10: for just a year ago. I think they were asking

684
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 10: seven forty five or something like that. I can't remember

685
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 10: the exact number. So yeah, they're going to go to

686
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 10: the legislature. The new mayor, who until a few months

687
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 10: ago was in the legislature. She is considered to be

688
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 10: a financial expert, a financing expert, and so I think

689
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 10: I think they might have a shot at something and

690
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 10: if not this year, next year. So that's where this

691
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 10: is now. The question is, once again people are going

692
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 10: to ask should tax payers pay for a sports facility

693
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 10: for a privately owned team? Right?

694
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: And what is the answer. That's what the debate is

695
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: going to be all about. So what else are they

696
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: trying to do? Because I remember hearing I'm pretty sure

697
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: I remember hearing this that they want to add like

698
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: another hotel on that spot, like they want to add

699
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: things around the actual arena as well as just updating.

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Speaker 3: Is that still on That is not.

701
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Speaker 10: In this proposal, but that is part of the proposal,

702
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 10: but not this one.

703
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

704
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 10: So there had been talk about building restaurants all the

705
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 10: way around it, and as you say, some new hotels,

706
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 10: but the city of Saint Paul would have to be

707
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 10: involved in that. And this the city is putting all

708
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 10: its chips in the middle of the table on this

709
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 10: financing to get this thing done. Now, I think what

710
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 10: the Wild would give assign another thirty year lease right

711
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 10: now they're intill twenty.

712
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Thirty six or something like that.

713
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Speaker 10: Okay, so twenty sixty six when your kids are taking

714
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 10: you in the wheelchair to the Wild games and the concerts,

715
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 10: to know it would be what concert.

716
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: Third Eyed Line? Thirty years?

717
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Third Eye Line. I don't think they're playing Grand

718
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: Casino anymore. What's the appetite for public funding in Europeion?

719
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: It's never good, feel but I feel like it's almost

720
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: worse now than it's ever been. Is that a fair assumption?

721
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: You covered these things a million times, so you would

722
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: know more than me.

723
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Speaker 10: I think people say that, and I think in general,

724
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 10: if you took a poll, people would say, in general,

725
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 10: we don't believe that taxpayers should fund this. But if

726
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 10: the Wild go to the Stanley Cup and the Timberwolves

727
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 10: are in the NBA Finals, so whatever it is, that

728
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 10: does a lot for public sentiment, even if ethically morally

729
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 10: you don't believe that taxpayer funding should be used. I

730
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 10: think in general it's that it usually that's what happens.

731
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Speaker 10: This is not the kind of a deal like the

732
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Speaker 10: Vikings got. The Vikings had half of it paid for

733
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 10: by the state and city and.

734
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Speaker 3: County, right, and that was a billion dollar deal. Yeah,

735
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: that was a billion dollar deal.

736
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 10: And now stadiums are two billion and three billion, and

737
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 10: so that was kind of a window into a pretty

738
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 10: good deal for the Vikings and the Will family which

739
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 10: owns it. This is everybody's got skin in the game

740
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 10: in this Wild plan. They really do.

741
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: So I answer this as a Saint Paul guy, as

742
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: a Saint Paul resident. How is Saint Paul doing the

743
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 2: downtown not great. That's not great.

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00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 10: That's why I was very surprised when may Or her

745
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 10: actually got into the race against Melvin Carter.

746
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: It is as if.

747
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 10: And me and many of my neighbors and many of

748
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 10: the people I talk about who hang out in Saint Paul,

749
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 10: you got to come and hang in Saint Paul.

750
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 8: Man.

751
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 3: I love to know Paul.

752
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: But the times I've been there, I've gotten that since

753
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: like just you know, with businesses coming and going.

754
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: It's almost benign neglect.

755
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 10: If you go downtown in Saint Paul, the skyways are closed.

756
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 10: Many of the buildings are now empty. Part of it

757
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 10: because one guy owned so many of the buildings and

758
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 10: he passed away and they went into foreclosure. I mean,

759
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 10: it's crazy, all of the all of the buildings downtown

760
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 10: that are are empty.

761
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Speaker 2: Because it's going to be packed this weekend starting today,

762
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: right yep, from sun up to sundown.

763
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Speaker 3: Hockey.

764
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: You got best, good ball, you got everything downtown, and

765
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: it's as good as it gets with the restaurants right

766
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: there on West Seventh, and I know it extends, you know,

767
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: into the park and everything there. But when I've I've

768
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: gone for just a couple of things and I walk around,

769
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: I go because we spend a lot of time talking

770
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: about Minneapolis, obviously, and I don't think we're talking enough

771
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: about Saint Paul.

772
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 10: And like what, I love Saint Paul. I took my upbringing.

773
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, by my West Metro stobbery. I love

774
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 10: Saint Paul.

775
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: But again, as I mentioned this year, you know, Dyna

776
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: people have time chairs in Saint Paul for the state

777
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: hockey tournament, so we have a vested interest in the

778
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: city being vibrant.

779
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 10: Well, here's what I want to say that this is

780
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 10: a key h this is an anchor. This is something

781
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 10: that is leveraged for the rest of the city to

782
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 10: make it more vibrant, to bring more people down. And

783
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 10: that's my point, and that is what it is. This

784
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 10: would be a good way to start that. There are

785
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 10: a lot of other things that the mayor says that

786
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 10: she will do, but this is a really good way

787
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 10: to start for the city of Saint Paul. If they

788
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 10: could get this done, there would be construction down there.

789
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 10: It's it'd be really something.

790
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Have you been to a concert at Grand Casino recently recently?

791
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: It's a great place to go.

792
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: I'd have to even wonder what my last concert was there.

793
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: You don't remember, I don't remember, I haven't I want.

794
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 10: To, but it's there are people there. The downtown is

795
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 10: packed with concerts, with wild games, with the tournaments coming up,

796
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 10: with the dog show, you know, all that kind of

797
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 10: stuff is really good for the city. And I think

798
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 10: may Or her will do what she can to try

799
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 10: to push this along. So don't count it out. I

800
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 10: think the odds are against it, but not that greatly

801
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 10: right now.

802
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: You think they're against it.

803
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 10: Well as always with a stadium, yeah, or an arena

804
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 10: and they're asking the city to the state to kick

805
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 10: in money.

806
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

807
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 10: I think you go into it knowing that taxpayers don't

808
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 10: generally like this, but they come around.

809
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: I mean, are you not entertained?

810
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 10: Right?

811
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: Us bank? Right?

812
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 10: I mean do people love that? And that turned out

813
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 10: to be a pretty good deal for everybody involved, including

814
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 10: the taxpayers of the city.

815
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Another quick bill I want to get your thoughts on

816
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: before we talk about another bill. And I don't know

817
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: if you heard this earlier in the show, what would

818
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: the appetite be in the Minnesota House of Representatives if PJ.

819
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: Fleck went to the Capitol and said, like Mississippi, I

820
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: needed to do this. For me, I needed to exempt

821
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: nil earnings from state income like my friends in Mississippi

822
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: have done. I talked about it earlier Florida, Tennessee and Texas.

823
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: As we know, I have no state income tax. Arkansas

824
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: carved out nil earnings from the state income tax burden

825
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: last year. It's SCC country. Whereas you know, Pat, it

826
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: just means more. That's their tagline. If PJ went to

827
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: the Capitol with Coach Walls and said this is what

828
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: we need, Drake lindsay we can't have his nil earnings,

829
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: it's going to help us. How well would that go

830
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: over here? That's what we're up against. I know, I

831
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: know that's what we're up against. Which is I would

832
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: like to know? I mean to answer the question directly.

833
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: I think that that kind of an appeal, even from PJ,

834
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: who's a hero, even from PJ coming in saying we

835
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: got to do something like this, I think that would

836
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: not get a good reception. It would get a cool,

837
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: even cold reception.

838
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Speaker 3: Then, But you want to go to the college football

839
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: playoff or not? Mississippi is all in.

840
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 10: So can a legislature, any legislature. The Minnesota legislature put

841
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 10: guardrails on NIL. If there was some way to do

842
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 10: this to make a tax exempt not for the players,

843
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 10: but for the donors who contribute the money, make it

844
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 10: a five oh one C three so they can deduct

845
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 10: it off their taxes, that would seem to me to

846
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 10: be a way to build up the build up the

847
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 10: entire the fund for NIL. Well, rich people love their

848
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 10: tax breaks. We know that they love their deductions.

849
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: And because that changed a few years ago for personal seats,

850
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: as you know, mister PSL, I.

851
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Speaker 10: Am I'm just gonna I'm just going to say this

852
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 10: and and I love our president. I'm just going to

853
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 10: say I love President Trump. Okay, cut that one. No,

854
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 10: that that one is going that is not going in there.

855
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 7: The top five seat at least, all right.

856
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 10: So it was President Trump in the tax bill in

857
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 10: his first term that took away all of the tax

858
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 10: exemptions for people who wanted to contribute to the University

859
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 10: of Minnesota Athletic Department.

860
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: And no longer can you deduct.

861
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: It like your personal seat licenses For those that aren't wondering,

862
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: those are those historically had been when.

863
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 10: You buy a ticket, a seat, a season ticket at

864
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 10: a football stadium, the money would a lot of money

865
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 10: would go to the athletic department, and that was deductible

866
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 10: in the same way that we used to be able

867
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 10: to deduct our state and local taxes that we pay

868
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 10: on our houses. That was taken out of the bill

869
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 10: that President Trump passed in his first term. Also, however,

870
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 10: on the plus side, billionaires got a huge tax cut.

871
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 10: So you know you got you got. If you know

872
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 10: you get one, take one away. We need, uh, we

873
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 10: need a billionaire for go for football? Do you know

874
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 10: any yes?

875
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: So why don't? I mean, this is what I want

876
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 3: to know.

877
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 10: Where are all the billionaires, Where are the where are

878
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 10: the corporate partners in this state? And why have they

879
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 10: not stepped up to support the University of Minnesota a

880
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 10: flefe department. That's what I want to know.

881
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: Some of them have, well, yes, some some of them have,

882
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: and I think a few more are about.

883
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: To where's our Mark Cuban to one of those to

884
00:42:59,280 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: fund the.

885
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: We do we do well, we have them, but they

886
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: we don't have them exactly.

887
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: They're not around.

888
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: So we need and I've googled them, like Kirk Signetti,

889
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: I've googled them.

890
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 3: I've tried creeping people.

891
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 10: You're creeping people online Minnesota alums who are billionaires.

892
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: I've tried to do my part.

893
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: Most of them are in the Cargill family and they

894
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: want to be the new Dutton family and the Yellowstone

895
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: Ranch and just live and never be bothered.

896
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 10: And did they did they buy that thing in de

897
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 10: Luth or did they run away walk away from they?

898
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 6: Well?

899
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: I think eventually they walked away from them because you

900
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't let them do what they wanted to do and

901
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: just leave them alone. You guys, the del News Tribune

902
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: had to meddle up this. This is good for you, ye,

903
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: the park Point stuff. Can you stay for another segment?

904
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: What time is it?

905
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the other the cursive bill

906
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: that you have here, and a couple of other things

907
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: with special k Pat Kessler.

908
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: Another segment with him around the.

909
00:43:52,640 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 5: Corners Wild Wednesday right here on the fan, and we

910
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 5: have your shot of tickets to Wild Mammoth next Tuesday.

911
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 7: Use the iHeartRadio apps and it's a talkback.

912
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 5: Tell us your five untouchable players are on the Wild

913
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Speaker 5: currently Do that and get all the details. Kfaan dot

914
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 5: Conkeyer contests.

915
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: On Twin City's News talk game eleven thirty Right now,

916
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Gopher men's basketball is taking on the Indiana Hoosiers in Bloomington, Indiana.

917
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: One of my favorite places to watch a basketball game,

918
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: call it basketball Game Legendary Assembly Hall, and that game

919
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: is in the first half right now, is about six

920
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: minutes to go. The Gophers trail by four, twenty six,

921
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: twenty two. The thing we used to do from time

922
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: to time, pack Kessler, is we would when we have

923
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: the opportunity, we would pot up the voice of the Gophers,

924
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Mike Grim, who's calling the game in Bloomington, and we

925
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: would play a game for prizes. We don't have any

926
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: prizes today, but the game would be with callers will

927
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: Grim rip the refs. We'll do a live listening and

928
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: will Grim ripped the ref So I don't have a

929
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: prize for you, but we're gonna pot him up right

930
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: now and for a couple of minutes, will Grim rip

931
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: the refts and.

932
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yes, that's the over under all, right,

933
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: let's do the live listening. It seems like.

934
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 4: And he's got two already tonight he's in double figures

935
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 4: with ten. He had just seven threes in his last

936
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: forty two attempts coming in and two tonight and the

937
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: lead back to nine thirty one.

938
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Toy's a little behind that offensive foul right there.

939
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: He absolutely ripped the rest.

940
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, here he is a floating awesome from the elbow

941
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 4: right just inside that elbow, thirteen footer and it cuts

942
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: it to seven thirty one, twenty four Indiana the lead

943
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 4: a football kind of score now here and what's become

944
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: a football school, the national champion football team. One of

945
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 4: the great stories, of course, just across the way Memorial

946
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 4: Stadium here, and it's still shake your head a little

947
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 4: bit at the amazing part of that story, Indiana winning

948
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: a football national title. Here's a three partially blocked by

949
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: Shinholster and the Gophers. The rebound down by six coming

950
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 4: the other way, pass ahead, shin Holster, work's into the paint,

951
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: kicks back to Riddles waiting now with a left hand

952
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 4: dribble outside the strike. Now give to Dirkin open three

953
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 4: rims out week side rebound devrees for Indiana. Nothing controversially

954
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 4: a thirteen a meter to follow something. Yeahvrez, we played

955
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: gold rim. There's never any follows on schin Holster love

956
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 4: and another dunk and he wanted a moving screen, didn't

957
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: Nico Medved, but alexis now with fifteen for Nco up

958
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 4: thirty three twenty four, the lead back to nine three

959
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: forty five to play in this first half. Here's Tyson driving,

960
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: picks up the dribble, fees to Shinholster.

961
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: He'll launch a three right side.

962
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: It's no good rebound tip Dirkin has it, kick out Tyson,

963
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: Tyson driving leaning shot up, no put back shin Holster. No,

964
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: and the rebound off of Indiana. It'll stay Minnesota ball.

965
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: And we're at our under four minute time out. Gophers

966
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 4: down single digits, thirty three twenty four. They'll have twenty

967
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: to shoot when we come back, three point thirty to.

968
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: Play here in the first half, and it's all right.

969
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: So you and a lost Pats. He did not have

970
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: a lot of money on that. They're so close, there

971
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: wasn't he said, Nico Medved kind of got into the refs.

972
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: That's like a half pelf, that's like a half.

973
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: Rip the ref.

974
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: But I can't say that was a full grim ripping

975
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: of the ref unfortunately.

976
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 3: So you lose.

977
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, nohing, But I mean he's always on edge when

978
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 10: I'm listening, he's all right on the edge of anger.

979
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 3: He's waiting.

980
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 10: That's what he is. He's watching. If you know Grimsey,

981
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 10: that's I do. That's who he is.

982
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: I do. All right.

983
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: So the Gophers are down by nine and thirty three

984
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 2: twenty four. That game is on Twin Cities News Talk

985
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: eight m eleven thirty. They've got one more home game

986
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: on Saturday night against Northwestern. Will you be there in

987
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: your beautiful people's seats? May or may not? Not sure yet.

988
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: It's senior night, so that is a big plus. But

989
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: so do you get this kind of popcorn? What do

990
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: you mean senior night?

991
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: I see what you did there.

992
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: Tell me about this cursive bill? What is this cursive bill?

993
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: And what do I need to know about it?

994
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: Well?

995
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: Can you write in cursive? Yeah, that's like cursive? Yeah yeah.

996
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 10: So there is a bill at the Minnesota legislature which

997
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 10: would require schools to teach cursive writing. For you young

998
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 10: kids who really know how to work a keyboard, but

999
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 10: don't really know how to write in cursive, beautiful writing

1000
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 10: with a pen on a piece of paper. This is

1001
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 10: what the bill would do. Teach young kids how to

1002
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 10: do it. Now, this is we used to be able

1003
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 10: to do this in the state and of course, this

1004
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 10: is how I learned. Also learned how to write cursive.

1005
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 10: But they brought in the Declaration of Independence, and one

1006
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 10: of the members of the legislature asked a kid to

1007
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 10: pick out John Hancock off the Declaration of Independence. Couldn't

1008
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 10: do it, can't read cursive. And another the author of

1009
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 10: the bill, wrote a birthday note to her grandson and

1010
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 10: he couldn't read it and asked her to read it.

1011
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: So, you know, what do you do? This would be something.

1012
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 10: I think I have pretty good handwriting, and I learned

1013
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 10: how to write cursive with the when I was punished.

1014
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: Is that right? In school? What would you have to write?

1015
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 10: I am sorry that I was bad in school. I

1016
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 10: am sorry that I was bad in school. I am

1017
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 10: sorry that authentic Pat Kessler. This is a Pat Kessler

1018
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 10: artifact that I have brought with me to the show.

1019
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: I wish we had the cameras on, but we're not

1020
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: the Power Trip Morning Show.

1021
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: Well all tweeted out after this, but please.

1022
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: Do and you have it frained, I have one's like

1023
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence.

1024
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 10: It does and so and I think I had to

1025
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 10: write twenty five times I am sorry that I was

1026
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 10: bad in school, and I learned how to write cursive

1027
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 10: that way. But it got to a point where I

1028
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 10: would take pencils and tape them together so they were

1029
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 10: in a line, and then I would write, I am

1030
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 10: sorry that I am bad in school with all three pencils,

1031
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 10: you know, with a spacer in between. Yeah, And so

1032
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 10: I could write on three lines of one sufficiency. It's incredible.

1033
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 10: But here's the thing, because that's how I learned to write,

1034
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 10: by being punished so much, I'm pretty good. I I

1035
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 10: had to write a fifty word essay when I was

1036
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 10: in like fourth grade. I have a speech impediment and

1037
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 10: I still do to this day. But I went to

1038
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 10: speech classes. I have a list and I had a

1039
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 10: very mild stutter. Here's the deal. So I wrote an essay,

1040
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 10: fifty word essay. The title of it was I am

1041
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 10: the Stuttering Man.

1042
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: And here's how it went. I I am mmmmmm the

1043
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: the stuttering stuttering, stutering men, men, men, men, men. Fifty

1044
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 3: words boom done. That's how it was. So did you

1045
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: get in trouble for that, because that's not really.

1046
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 10: Doing then, because I was such a richer when I

1047
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 10: was a kid, always in trouble. But I was a

1048
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 10: good kid, But yeah, I was always in trouble, but

1049
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 10: I did bring this in. I think it'd be great

1050
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 10: if young people, apparently jen Xer's, have trouble with cursive writing.

1051
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, bright, did you learn cursive growing up? Because you're young?

1052
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: You were born in nineteen ninety six, that's that's weird.

1053
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: The oh we talked to me talking about it today.

1054
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: I don't have your birth certificate, but we talked about

1055
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: it today. Yeah, and I listened people are speaking to me.

1056
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: I'm so yeah, I'm twenty nine. I remember it what

1057
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 5: third grade? Maybe learning it, but it was it was

1058
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: like one and done and I never touched it again.

1059
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 7: Real, So, yeah, can you cursive?

1060
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 5: I can read cursive, and I can think I could

1061
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 5: write my name right now if you ask me to incursive.

1062
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 7: But anything other than that was great.

1063
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 5: Well, by the way, it's never not to pooh pooh

1064
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 5: on the bill, but it's I've never once thought, man,

1065
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 5: I wish I knew how to write cursive?

1066
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: How do you write your thank you notes?

1067
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 7: I'd probably just normally.

1068
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: He's never had to thank anybody for he's written, never

1069
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: thanked anybody.

1070
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, how do you write a letter to your parents?

1071
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: Exactly? See that's the thing.

1072
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: This is such an old school because I remember I

1073
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: used to write a check.

1074
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 7: I've written three checks in my life.

1075
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: Here's one. How do you sign autographs at the state Fair?

1076
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: There's one?

1077
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 7: I signed autographs?

1078
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what about that?

1079
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 7: That's a good one.

1080
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 5: You will, I'll write, I'll write the letter to my mom.

1081
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 5: I'll give it to the Pony Express. It'll be in

1082
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 5: Des Moines three days.

1083
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: I used to write exclusively incursive when I was like

1084
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: in middle school, in high school, I preferred cursive. Now

1085
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: I only when i'm you know, signing autographs at the

1086
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: state fair or my wife always gives me crap about this.

1087
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: One of my like ad d tics is when I'm

1088
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: sitting here and I do this all the time, and

1089
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm working on something, I I will sit and just

1090
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: sign my name like this. Not that I think I'm

1091
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: about to go, you know, to fan HQ to sign

1092
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: autographs with nas Red. But that's just always been one

1093
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: of my things, and it's always incursive. But I write

1094
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: exclusively now and just in regular handwriting.

1095
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 10: Well, I didn't do it today, but normally I bring

1096
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 10: in page after page after page of show notes. Yes,

1097
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 10: and and and those are all incursive and that's I

1098
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 10: do it that way. So Brett cannot read it.

1099
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just can't figure it out.

1100
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 10: So is there the question is should we be able

1101
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 10: to write cursive and read cursive?

1102
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: And I think the answer is yes.

1103
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: See I would say it's a noble cause, but I

1104
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 2: think it's increasingly irrelevant, like algebra, like thank you notes,

1105
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: like manners like it's it's it's a civility. Yeah, it's

1106
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: a it's a throwback to a simpler time because now

1107
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: it stands out when you get a note and we

1108
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: get we'll get cards for enough said.

1109
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 10: Right, how great? The show is hugely popular show. Someone

1110
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 10: just came up to the booth.

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: For go for women's basketball and had gave Lynette, my partner,

1112
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: and me a card. They were both incursive, older person

1113
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: just saying listen to you guys, Love you guys. But

1114
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: it's that's a generational thing. Like I believe this that

1115
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: gen X can't do it. But I don't believe they're

1116
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: ever going to want you because they they don't do those.

1117
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: They don't write letters to their parents, they didn't write letter,

1118
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: they didn't have pen pals, they didn't serve in a war,

1119
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: and have to write back to their you know, the

1120
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: wife that was waiting for them, how much they loved them, Like, well, they.

1121
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: Send them a text. Let me ask you this etiquette question.

1122
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 10: If you get a wonderful gift from somebody, or a

1123
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 10: card from a listener or a viewer, what is the

1124
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 10: etiquette would you write them a letter or a card back?

1125
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 10: Or is it okay to write an email?

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00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: Brett?

1127
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: How about you? Because it should be a card or

1128
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: a letter back. It should be, and I try to.

1129
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: I'm not very good at it. I'm very sporadic in

1130
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 2: my thank you notes. And the people that are diligent

1131
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: about it I envy because I can't do it consistently.

1132
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: It's so stupid because it takes no effort. But I

1133
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 2: can't find myself consistently doing it enough. And every book

1134
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: about success that you've ever read will tell you that

1135
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: is a critical aspect of it.

1136
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 10: Well, it's interesting you mentioned that one of the stories

1137
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 10: in Mini sort of Reformer about cursive says that research

1138
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 10: scientific research says that cursive writing activates different parts of

1139
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 10: the brain compared to printing. Yeah, I believe printed handwriting.

1140
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 10: So let me ask you this, do you ever write

1141
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 10: print out in block letters on a piece of paper.

1142
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you're writing your name. You should learn how

1143
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: to sign other people's names. Well, I signed my dad's

1144
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: a lot when I needed money. There you are, Yeah,

1145
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: I can get to.

1146
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 10: Take the check because in those days it was a

1147
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 10: check right from the bottom of the checkbook, right, so

1148
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 10: it would be months before he figured it out.

1149
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: Exactly right, that's so good, Yeah, exactly right. I write.

1150
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: I do a lot of free handwriting though, like a

1151
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: lot of times, my notes for the show or my

1152
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: notes for gopher stuff is all handwritten. That I'm old

1153
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 2: school in that sense. It would have been cursive twenty

1154
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: years ago. Now it's more just block writing.

1155
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 10: I have actually seen your calendar book with all your

1156
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 10: appointment book, with all the stuff that's on it. It's

1157
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 10: like sanskritful mind. Yeah, trying to figure out some scary stuff.

1158
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1159
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, some of the people would love to have

1160
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 10: the nostalgia of cursive and have that in a bill,

1161
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 10: But the author of the bill says it's possible now

1162
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 10: that we're going to have to first teach the teachers

1163
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 10: how to write cursive.

1164
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

1165
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that my kids are learning cursive a

1166
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: little bit in their school. But they also have an

1167
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: iPad that does everything. That's a whole another we'll send

1168
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: them to a Catholic school. I don't know if the

1169
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: nuns still do that.

1170
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: But when I was a little kid, yeah, I mean

1171
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: you had to learn how to do it.

1172
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: What were you doing in school that you were always

1173
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: in trouble and having to write I'm sorry I was

1174
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: bad in.

1175
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: School, you know I was. I was just like a

1176
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: cut up.

1177
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 10: One time the sister, if you say so, I was

1178
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 10: so funny, Sister Mary Dominic walked in the room and

1179
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 10: I was hanging from the rafters above the class.

1180
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 3: Let's just say that.

1181
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 10: And then the thing was, and they call your parents

1182
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 10: on a dial phone.

1183
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: The operator had to pull a plug and put yeah yeah.

1184
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 10: And then and then you'd see the clock going around

1185
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 10: like in the films the clock candser.

1186
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was so high. Yeah.

1187
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: What do you think the percentages of people that are

1188
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: on television or on the radio or in entertainment, if

1189
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: that's what you want to call this that also had

1190
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: could have had a framed artifact like you that said

1191
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was bad in school for doing exactly

1192
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: because every conference I had from like second grade to

1193
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: fifth grade. Was good energy. We really like him, wants

1194
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: to do well. Can we just get him?

1195
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't always need to be so try to be

1196
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: so funny.

1197
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: He doesn't doesn't always need to talk so much. Like

1198
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: it's just well, yeah, i'd be talking. Yeah, yeah, so

1199
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: no this I already forgot your question. When when how many.

1200
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: People have this?

1201
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 10: I think a lot of like in the business, Well,

1202
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 10: I resisted authority and I still do. Yeah, even if

1203
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 10: my beautiful wife asks me or very very gently says

1204
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 10: why did.

1205
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: You do that?

1206
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 10: You know it's because I want to? Yeah, because you could.

1207
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 10: That's why to ask me again? Because what I do

1208
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 10: whatever I want, that's why.

1209
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. So so that's that's.

1210
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

1211
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 3: You know, this is probably eighty years old. It looks old,

1212
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: it looks weathered. That is great though. I appreciate you

1213
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: bringing that in. Thank you.

1214
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: Last text on the way out here from Larry Mondelo guy.

1215
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: I have to think that Kessler must have had to

1216
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: write more specific apologies like I will not steal beer

1217
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: from the general store, so good, or the hard candy

1218
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: from the barrel exactly from the five and dime, Yes, yeah,

1219
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: from the five and that is so good.

1220
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: That is so good.

1221
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to say I'm going to send you a

1222
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: thank you note for coming in. I'm probably not.

1223
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 10: I'm hoping for a written, cursive thank you note from

1224
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 10: Brett Blakemore and from you. I'm just going to say

1225
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 10: my home address, thanks, Pat.

1226
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: Going to say thank you for coming in just text

1227
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: me and hanging out for the hour. I appreciate you.

1228
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: You are a great mentor to me and an even

1229
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: better friend. Continued success. See you next week.

1230
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: Wow, damn, it's a good thank you like that. Yeah,

1231
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to put pen to paper.

1232
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 10: All right, very good. That was a nice thank you

1233
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 10: note right there. That is Pat Kesler done. Pat Kessler

1234
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 10: for his weekly appearance on Bumper to Bumper final segment.

1235
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 10: We'll let you know what you missed, including a really

1236
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 10: nice conversation with Pete and Jerry and about his college

1237
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 10: football coach, one of them, Lou Holtz, who passed away

1238
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 10: this week at eighty nine years old, will recap that.

1239
00:59:39,160 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 3: Tell you what's coming up tomorrow after this. Smoke him

1240
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: if you got them quiet. It's the Bumper to Bumper

1241
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 3: show wrap.

1242
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: Thank you American Pressure commercial grade pressure watcher since nineteen

1243
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: seventy five. Appreciate Pat Kessler coming in his usual outstanding contributions.

1244
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: From about five fifteen to six fifteen, my buddy Jays

1245
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: Frederick joined me to talk Wolves. That was early in

1246
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: the show, three point fifteen. Wolves won four in a row.

1247
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: They're back in action tomorrow night against Toronto, the number

1248
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: four seed as we speak right now, percentage points behind

1249
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets for number three. Anthony Edwards was box

1250
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: office once again last night. We talked about that and

1251
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of other stuff. Alec Lewis. Appreciate his patience

1252
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: as we navigated some breaking news in the four o'clock hour.

1253
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: We talked to Alec mostly about the quarterback stuff about

1254
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, talked a little bit about Jonathan Grenard. Did

1255
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: not touch on the Jonathan Allen news because I don't

1256
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: believe that had broken yet. That Jonathan Allen is the

1257
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: latest Viking that they will be moving on from as

1258
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: they continue to try to save money in their ridiculous

1259
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: salary cap situation that they somehow found themselves in.

1260
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: After unwinding all those contracts a year or.

1261
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: So ago, they had some more money that they needed

1262
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: to get rid of, so They have done that with Hargrave,

1263
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 2: with Aaron Jones and now with Jonathan Allen. No word

1264
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: yet on Ryan Kelly the Center. We'll see if that

1265
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: is the next domino to fall. But we had to

1266
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: move Alec Lewis a little bit later because we were

1267
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: reacting to the breaking news that Lou Holtz died at

1268
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: eighty nine, the former Gopher coach for two seasons, obviously

1269
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: best known for his time at Notre Dame and then

1270
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: his time on ESPN as a college football analyst, a

1271
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: legendary name in the college football community. Our buddy Pete

1272
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: Najerion played for him when he got here to the

1273
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: U for those two quick years. Nigerian was here for

1274
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: both of them, and he was phenomenal talking about his

1275
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: former coach and what he remembered about, and you got

1276
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: here what he remembered about, how he left, and more important,

1277
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: just their relationship basically fifty forty some years later, if

1278
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm doing the math right, forty some years later from

1279
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: the time that Pete played for him in the mid

1280
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: eighties to really within the last month when he talked

1281
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: to him.

1282
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: It was good stuff. Really. I appreciate Pete jumping on.

1283
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: He was about to catch a flight, and that was

1284
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: the deal today. So all that is podcastable. I am

1285
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: out tomorrow. I'm going to my favorite city, Indianapolis, Indiana.

1286
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: Where else, As Pat Kesler says, what a great life,

1287
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: what a great state?

1288
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: What is it?

1289
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 5: Elmos san elms? Yeah, will you make a stop to

1290
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 5: be determined? To be determined. It's not on the itinerary

1291
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 5: for tomorrow. Possibly on Friday. We'll see, we'll see.

1292
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's fine, it's good, you'll love it.

1293
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: It's it's Indy.

1294
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 7: It's the greatest place on earth.

1295
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it will, we'll see.

1296
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: I got I think Indiana won today the women's team,

1297
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: so the crowds will actually be a little bit better tomorrow.

1298
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: GOP for women play on Friday, the winner of Indiana

1299
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: and Ohio State. They will play on Friday afternoon. Gopher

1300
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: men are playing Indiana right now. They're trailing by fifteen

1301
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: at the half. Things got away from them a little

1302
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: bit late in the half. If you want to catch that,

1303
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: you can listen to it on Twin Cities News Talk

1304
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: A M eleven thirty Good Double Duty Today, Brett Appreciate You.

1305
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: Everything will be podcasted on the Barero Channel. Of your

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio act. Did you want to ask away?

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Speaker 5: If you missed Piena Jerian, it'll be on fan on demand.

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Speaker 5: So following the show, if you missed any of that,

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Speaker 5: with the tragic news of Lou Holtz passing away, you

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Speaker 5: can listen back to that conversation in about five member,

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Speaker 5: is that coming up next?

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Speaker 7: That's coming up next?

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Speaker 3: The man on the air.

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Speaker 2: All right, then Wild Weekly because it's Wednesdays, correct, Wild

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Speaker 2: Weekly Wednesday? The Wild play win to the Wild play

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Speaker 2: again tomorrow. Yes, the Wolves play tomorrow as well against

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Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors.

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Speaker 3: Gophers are playing right now.

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Speaker 2: Twin Cities News Talk Game eleven thirty one to three

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Speaker 2: point five FM and as always on the free and

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Speaker 2: easy to use iHeartRadio app. Barrew back tomorrow. Thanks everybody

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Speaker 2: for listening. Enjoy the rest of the evening.

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Speaker 3: Cyon Nara Suckers. Sure, why not smoke with Dig