WEBVTT - A Bad Joke...

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's bulldozer never sleeps. The Kuhner Report Weekend Edition. On

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<v Speaker 2>Grace Vuoto, we've made contact with Dr. Grace, putting liberals

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<v Speaker 2>in their place. Full disclosure, you better believe it, she's

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<v Speaker 2>my wife and I married way up. Grace, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am very well, Jeff. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>having me on. And I couldn't help but think, as

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<v Speaker 3>I heard you this morning, you know, Jeff, your job

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<v Speaker 3>is recession-proof, cleaning up the liberal bull. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 3>lot of load every day. I mean, you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>right business.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I have on my shoulders every day? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>just for the audience, You came back, I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was from a dance class last night. And you were nice.

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<v Speaker 2>You were relaxed. We had a wonderful dinner. You went

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<v Speaker 2>to your dance class, looking to settle into the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>And you come home and you see me in my

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<v Speaker 2>man cave, you know, in my office, show prepping. And

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<v Speaker 2>what did you see? What did you hear? Could you

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<v Speaker 2>just tell the audience?

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<v Speaker 3>I came home on cloud nine, happy as can be.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great day. And you, Jeff, you were

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<v Speaker 3>just livid. I mean, you were tearing into the media

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<v Speaker 3>for about 15 minutes. And, you know, I took your

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<v Speaker 3>mom's advice, the best advice she ever gave me before

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<v Speaker 3>we got married. When Jeff is upset, say nothing. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I did. I just said, mm-hmm, yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was spitting mad about what they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>at Trump with this hoax that he wants to nuke L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>and San Diego. So just to show you that my

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<v Speaker 2>poor wife is listening to me. I'm pounding the table

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this has got to stop. This is

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to take us to civil war if this continues.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so I want to apologize, sweetie, because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit of a hothead last night.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, but I managed to cool off. I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit upset, but, you know, I've cooled off

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<v Speaker 2>from last night. What do you make of this story?

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<v Speaker 2>ABC News, CNN, MSNOW, NBC, it doesn't stop. Gavin Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>now says it's dangerous. Trump is deranged. He wants to

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<v Speaker 2>murder over 10 million Americans in a war with Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>and he thinks it's a small price to pay. The

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of L.A., says that Trump now wants to obliterate

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<v Speaker 2>two major California cities because he thinks it's nothing in

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<v Speaker 2>order to defeat Iran. They are terrorizing Democrats. They are fear-mongering.

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<v Speaker 2>This is hysteria on a level I haven't seen since COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>What say you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Jeff, I was reflecting on a lot of what

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<v Speaker 3>you were saying. And look, one of the president's great achievements,

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<v Speaker 3>which historians are going to write about in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>is that he has exposed the fact that we live

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<v Speaker 3>in an age of fake news. This word that he coined,

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<v Speaker 3>fake news, this is now common currency. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>think about it, in 2016, when he burst onto the scene,

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<v Speaker 3>that was CNN's most watched year ever. And by 2026,

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<v Speaker 3>their ratings have collapsed by over 50%. MSNBC had a

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<v Speaker 3>similar massive ratings drop. And in their key demo of

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<v Speaker 3>adults between 25 and 54, their rating since 2016 has

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<v Speaker 3>declined by 59%. So Trump has brilliantly over and over

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<v Speaker 3>again exposed the fact that they peddle in lies and

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<v Speaker 3>they traffic in smears. And so when you're very upset

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<v Speaker 3>about this last night, I understand that you're upset, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is now common. This is our daily existence. We

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<v Speaker 3>know this. And that's why they have fewer and fewer viewers.

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<v Speaker 3>Having said this, Jeff, I must say, I did hear

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<v Speaker 3>the president's comments. And my reaction was, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>all our years that we lived in D.C., so there's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of two shorthands that people use. If you're talking

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<v Speaker 3>to Liberals, oftentimes they make disparaging comments about what they

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<v Speaker 3>call flyover country, right, which is the heartland. And when

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about conservatives, they often make jokes or disparaging

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<v Speaker 3>comments about the blue states. And so I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>that this is Trump, who now, you know, he's in D.C.

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. He was making a joke where he was

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<v Speaker 3>being very disparaging of the blue states, saying, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear bomb, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting so much resistance that And you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't I just let them bomb these blue cities? Ha, ha, ha.

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<v Speaker 3>He was making a joke. But it was a joke

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<v Speaker 3>gone terribly bad. That's how I saw it. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a bad joke that he shouldn't have made. Now, from

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's a bad joke that the commander-in-chief shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>made to he actually wanted the cities bombed, that's just

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<v Speaker 3>a giant stretch. And that's where... we're seeing this, this,

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<v Speaker 3>the media discrediting itself because they go from some, you

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<v Speaker 3>can make a legitimate point and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>that joke just, it's not becoming of the president of

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. And it didn't really land well overall,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from making that comment all the way to,

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<v Speaker 3>he literally wants those cities bombed. That's just preposterous.

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<v Speaker 2>Grace. I, um, I respectfully disagree. I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>the cut again. And I'm not doing this to have

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<v Speaker 2>a debate or an argument, but I don't see the joke.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear a joke. There's no joke. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly no joke about bombing Los Angeles and San Diego. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play it one more time. And you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me, where's the joke? Okay, so this is Trump

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<v Speaker 2>at a rally in Nebraska. Roll cut 1A, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>With the war, it's just artificial. It's a little bit high.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a small price to pay for keeping the world safe,

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<v Speaker 3>keeping our country safe.

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<v Speaker 2>They can take out a city.

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<v Speaker 3>Let them take.

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<v Speaker 2>Out Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Let them take out San Diego.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very small price to pay. And it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>over very soon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's essentially almost over with.

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<v Speaker 1>And they might keep going a little long. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they always say they have a big threshold for pain.

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<v Speaker 2>They need it. Let me tell you, they need it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's going to end very soon, and it'll end

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the joke? I mean, to me, this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I hear, and then I want you to get your take.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, look, with the war, it's just artificial, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>the prices, the high gas prices. It's a little bit high.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a small price to pay for keeping the world safe,

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<v Speaker 2>for keeping our country safe. He says they could take

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<v Speaker 2>out a city. So he's basically saying, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they had a nuke, they could take out an

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<v Speaker 2>American city. Now, he says, let them take out Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>let them take out San Diego. What he means is, obviously, what?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to what? Let them take out LA?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Let them take out San Diego? And then he goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to the gas prices. And he says, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a very small price to pay. And it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be over with very soon, meaning the war is going

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<v Speaker 2>to end soon. When the war ends, the gas prices

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<v Speaker 2>will come down. And anyway, he says it may go

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<v Speaker 2>on a little bit longer. They say the Iranians have

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<v Speaker 2>a threshold for pain, but they're going to need it

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<v Speaker 2>because their economy is crumbling and collapsing everywhere. So to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, I don't see, A, the joke, and certainly

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<v Speaker 2>the joke about, ha, ha, ha, ha, let them nuke L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>or San Diego.

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<v Speaker 3>Go. Jeff, listen, I took it as a joke when

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<v Speaker 3>I heard it. And if you listen carefully to the

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<v Speaker 3>clip you played, some of the audience members are laughing

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<v Speaker 3>because what he's really saying is, I'm trying so hard

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<v Speaker 3>to keep America safe. And what should I do? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>just do not, this is from his perspective, do nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Let them have a nuke. And you know what? If

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<v Speaker 3>they did, well, then let them take out L.A. and

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego. Let them drop it on the blue states

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<v Speaker 3>that are opposing me, on the blue cities that oppose me. Ha, ha, ha.

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<v Speaker 3>It's clearly, but it's a joke gone bad. Now, the

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<v Speaker 3>larger point is this, though, Jeff. Listen, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>larger point. Why are we even discussing this? And you

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<v Speaker 3>know why we're discussing it? Because the words themselves, let

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<v Speaker 3>them take out, are indefensible. And that's why we're discussing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we have to discuss, is it a joke?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it not a joke? You as a professional, you

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<v Speaker 3>are on the air every day on little sleep for years.

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<v Speaker 3>And you are very careful about what you say. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is some of the frustration that many of us

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<v Speaker 3>Trump supporters have with the president. There is sometimes a recklessness,

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<v Speaker 3>a carelessness. You know, I shrug it off as, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is just a joke gone bad. Let's not exaggerate.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is part of what irritates me about him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, he's got to bear some responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>The words themselves are indefensible. Now, we just have to discuss,

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<v Speaker 3>did he mean it? Did he not mean it? No,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it as a joke, and I think the

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<v Speaker 3>media is exaggerating. But at the same time, he has

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<v Speaker 3>a position of grave responsibility, especially now, to try to

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<v Speaker 3>preserve the House and the Senate. And this is stepping

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<v Speaker 3>in it. You know, there's no other way to say it.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that we have to discuss it shows that.

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<v Speaker 3>At the same time, I understand everybody's frustration is, but

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what he does, the media is going to pounce.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's true. That's true, too. So my position is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, Grace, I hear you. We're not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>cut you off. We're literally 15 seconds before the break

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a hard break. But your position is I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. You think it was a bad joke gone

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<v Speaker 2>awry and the media is exaggerating and amplifying it for

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<v Speaker 2>political effect. But that Trump should watch what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff doesn't get a day off. This request came from

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. The Kuhner Report Weekend Edition on the voice

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