WEBVTT - Mike Allen in for Sloanie 12-29-25 0:00:28.640 --> 0:01:13.160 You gotta stick together. There's Radio seven hundred WLW Mike 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:18.120 Allen in for Scott Sloan today and for the entire week, 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.320 so looking forward to that. I'll tell you what. There's 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.400 a lot to talk about. I guess the first thing 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:29.160 here is the weather. It's unbelievable. Yesterday got up into 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.880 that like almost high sixties. I halfway contemplated getting my 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.840 convertible out and driving around, but at the end of 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.959 the day I didn't do it. But man, I got 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.560 socked with it walking out the door today. But hey, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.240 that's Cincinnati. That's why there are so many people here 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.000 that get colds, I think. But one of the things 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.040 that's going on, and what we've talked about this a 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.880 lot on my Saturday show, is the situation in Minnesota 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:02.400 with just the unbelievable ram but fraud that's going on there, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.760 and it is now up to by most people's count, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:11.200 at least nine billion. That's billion with a be, you know. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.560 And it's our money. Most of it's federal, some of 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.920 its state. If it's federal, I mean literally, it's coming 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.079 out of our pockets and it just gets worse. Hey, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.280 I got a clip I want to play for you 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.200 here what this is. Let me set it up. There's 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.440 a podcaster. He's also an independent journalist, Nick Shirley. Apparently 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.680 he's pretty popular podcaster. I've not seen his show yet. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.960 He's on this thing like white on Rice. He shows 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.240 up to this daycare center in Minneapolis that's getting I 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.880 think about four million bucks from the government. And I'm 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.080 gonna play the clip. Obviously it's it would be better 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.280 on TV, but you still get the gist of it. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.400 He shows up with a camera at this place. It's 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.240 the something Learning Quality Learning Center. The only problem is 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.000 they learning l EA R I N G. So I 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.080 don't think a lot of learning goes on there. But 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.960 if you could play that clip please, if. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.760 Fraud is taking place within the government and the Somali 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:16.800 population here, this building alone, quality learning center is a daycare. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:20.720 Yet they spelt learning wrong and they said leering. This 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.240 daycare alone, in twenty twenty five has received one point 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.200 nine million dollars from the government. And the strange things 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:33.040 about these childcare centers is there's no one here right now. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.280 It's midday on a weekday, and if you were to. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.720 Try to go inside, it's completely closed and the windows 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.560 are all blacked out. No one's working midday children should 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.080 be in here, and this place is licensed for ninety 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.320 nine children. And this is the outside. There's no windows, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.480 no nothing. And like I said, they literally spelt the 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.400 word wrong on their sign. This is open and blatant 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.960 fraud taking place here inside of Minnesota. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.400 The government is complicit with this. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.160 And this is just one of the hundreds of child 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.040 daycare centers here inside of Minneapolis being ran by the 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.120 Somali population. It's sad that it's happening here in Minnesota, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.040 and instinks that's happening and it's being labeled on the 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.240 Smali population. However, that's just the facts of what's happening 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.080 here inside of Minnesota. One point nine million dollars for 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:24.160 this daycare center that can't even spell learning, you. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.080 Know what I mean. It would be funny if it 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.080 weren't so sad. He's talking about one point nine million. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.040 I think that's what's limited to that that learning center. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.279 I guess you're gonna do some leering there, not learning. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.440 And it's four million bucks altogether for whatever the I 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.120 think there's two or three of them combined. But I mean, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:49.000 either way, it's incredible, just the the HUTSPA to try 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.680 to pull something like that off. And you know, you 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.560 ask yourself the question, at least I have a million times, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.440 how could this happen? How could this happen? And it 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.760 did happen, obviously, But how come somebody didn't do anything 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.919 about it? I mean, that's what's amazing. You talk about 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.320 Tim Waltz, the governor. Frankly, I think he's a buffoon, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.719 and he proved himself to be a buffoon in the 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:17.760 presidential election. Of course, he was Kamala's VP running mate. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.240 You're not going to tell me he didn't know about this. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.320 It's incredible. Hey, there's a group that is called the 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.560 Center for Immigration Studies, respected group. I think it's been 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.719 around for I don't know quite a while, it's been 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:37.280 I think since nineteen eighty five. Well, they did a 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.360 deep dive into this thing. Here's the thing. Some people 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:45.560 on the left and in Minnesota that are I guess, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.320 for lack of a better word, sticking up for the 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.240 people that are involved in this. And you know, you 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.640 knew they would say, well, this is horrible. You know, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.880 you're all jumping on these Somali citizens there, you know, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:01.640 these poor you know, uh, with good and tensions immigrants, 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.400 blah blah blah blah blah. But just take a listen 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.040 to this for a minute. Okay, again, this is the 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:13.040 Center for Immigration Studies. They found that, and I would 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.719 challenge if you want, because I did it too. Look 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.640 check it out, Center for Immigration Studies. Okay. They found 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:25.279 out that eighty one percent of Somali headed households in 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:31.760 Minnesota use one or more forms of welfare. Eighty one percent. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.960 So here's the breakdown. Twenty seven percent of that eighty 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:42.440 one is they're on cash welfare, fifty four percent that's 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.160 not part of the eighty one are on food stamps, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:52.920 seventy three percent on medicaid, and for households with children, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:57.280 the numbers are even higher. Eighty nine percent on welfare, 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:02.760 eighty six percent on Medicaid, sixty two percent on food stamps, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:08.359 twenty three percent on cash welfare. Now, what they did 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:13.920 they compared that to the situation with public assistance and 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.520 welfare to native born Minnesotans, not people that have come 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:23.640 into the country recently. They compared it and obviously the 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.880 native born Minnesotans have a much lower rate twenty one 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:33.600 percent on any welfare six percent on cash welfare. The 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.840 question is this then, I mean people are being criticized, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.920 people on the right, Republicans for taking shots at the 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.560 Somali community there. Well, I mean, you just heard the numbers. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:50.400 Why wouldn't you do that? You know, we don't have 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:56.840 to like every group that trespasses into our country. And 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.040 you know, Trump said it, and he caught all kinds 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.480 of crap ford this. This is a population that is 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:07.040 doing nothing positive for our country. And I think if 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.880 there were some examples of that, and I'm sure there's 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.840 probably some minor examples, but if it were a big deal, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.000 you'd be hearing about it. You'd be hearing about it. 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.040 And you know, the whole thing is you just keep 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:25.040 asking yourself, how could this have gone on? Janie Heisel 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.960 is a reporter for The Epic Times, And if you're 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:32.720 not familiar with the EPO Epic Times Epoch, you should be. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.240 It's a great publication. Been around a couple of years now. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:41.120 Janis former local reporter here in Cincinnati, is a senior correspondent. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:45.880 She has been assigned this whole thing, the whole Minnesota deal. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.760 She's been out there, She's interviewed people, newt Gingrich even 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:55.240 commented on her reporting that her reporting is right on, 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.280 and she's doing a public service by doing what she's doing. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.600 At any rate, she's a frequent guest, it's been almost 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.040 every week now on my Saturday show, and she's got 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.640 it nailed. And some of the things that she is seeing, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:15.520 it's the same thing. I mean again, people say, well, 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.280 we didn't know this was going on. That's just really 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.200 just a hard thing to stomach. So we have not 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.480 seen or heard the last of it. It's only going 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:31.280 to get worse at some point, at some point, either 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.960 the FEDS or the state. The FEDS more likely, I 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.120 think they're going to start looking at the governor and 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.520 some of the other elected officials, the AG being one 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:46.240 of them, for some potential criminal charges. There is no 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.360 evidence yet none, and I want to be clear about that, 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:55.120 that anybody's stuffing money into their pockets. But in criminal law, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.760 and I've leave in the federal Code too, there is 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:05.840 provision for something called gross negligence, where someone an elected official, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.400 for example, can be indicted and charged with that if 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.960 their negligence in office was so bad that it gets 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.880 close to crossing the line into some kind of theft situation. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.800 You know, Tim Wultz's a buffoon. I don't know him. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.760 I know of him just from the reporting, I don't 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.360 think and I'd be surprised if he was shoving money 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.840 in his pocket. I think he just thinks, you know, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.760 all these people they need help, blah blah blah. You 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.240 know if they cheat a little bit, you know, too bad. 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.960 Well that ain't gonna cut it either. Anyway. It gets 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.600 worse as a day goes on. But we're gonna stay 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.280 on it. Let's do this. Let me take a short 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.880 break and then we'll be back. Mike Allen in for 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:54.640 Sloaney seven hundred WLW all week. You know, talking about 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.839 this Minnesota thing. As I said, you ain't heard the 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.199 last of it. Just a few more things from there. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:05.720 For immigration studies, some of the disparities. Sixty six percent 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:11.000 of Somali refugees live in or near poverty versus twenty 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:16.200 percent of native born Minnesotans. Again, you know, I don't 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.040 think you can get on people, at least individually for 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.600 being in poverty unless you know they can work, and 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.439 they don't. But sixty six percent of the Somali refugees 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.480 live in or near poverty, versus twenty percent of native 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:38.119 born Minnesotans. The language barrier. Sixty percent of Somali refugees 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:43.199 speak English poorly. Forty percent lack a high school diploma. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:48.080 The reason for saying that is to point out that 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.960 the people that are saying, and they do this all 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.680 the time, you know, they are a huge part of 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.280 the community. They contribute blah blah blah. I'll tell you 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.360 I've been following this. Janis Heisel of the Epic Times 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.520 has been following this, and to the best of my knowledge, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.679 I've not heard one example, not one. And again, you 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.080 know you can say, well, Mike, you know they're African 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:19.120 American or their Islamic and therefore you are a racist 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:24.080 or in an an islamophobe. No, no, I think a 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:30.000 person is in their rights to say this community, they're 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.000 just not helping, because that is the case with the 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.480 Somali community. The other thing too, and this thing hasn't 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:43.000 been fully investigated yet. But yesterday I believe the FBI 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.280 cash Battel said he is directing the resources of the 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.680 investigatory resources of the FBI to this. And I heard 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.600 somebody squealing about, well, this is just a big political 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.200 play Now I'm sorry. You know, when you're talking about 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:05.040 nine billion dollars and counting, and frankly, I mean my 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.040 opinion is it's going to go way beyond that. No, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:13.120 it's not stern something up for political purposes. And you 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.400 know here's another thing too, And we have got coming 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.160 on Alex Trant to feel you. I believe Alex is 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.240 going to be on at eleven thirty this morning. He 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.800 is the chair of the Ohio GOP. I'm going to 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.920 ask him. Okay, Tim Waltz was the was Kamala Harris's 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:33.959 choice to be his running mate for vice president. Now, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.559 I always thought, and my experience has been for something 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.679 like that, potentially, you know, if something horrible happens to 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.719 the president, the highest office in the country, but if 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.760 that isn't the case, vice president the second highest office, 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.079 if you will, you would have a proper, complete and 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.160 full vetting of the situation. You know, they go out 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.880 and hire law firms, They spend buku hundreds of thousands 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.280 of bucks, probably millions of bucks to get that person vetted. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:12.480 And how could they have missed this situation that's cooking 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:17.120 in Minnesota. I mean, maybe they didn't and maybe they 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.440 said Hey, commally, you know, you need to know that 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.840 this is potentially out there, and she just said, I 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.400 ain't worried about it. It's really I mean, Kamala Harris 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.240 answer problems, Lord knows, but it's really hard for me 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.760 to believe that she would have been that negligent in 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.400 doing that. So I think that's a question that needs 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.560 to be answered. Doesn't really make a lot of difference 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.200 at this point, but there's a lot of people that 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:46.760 are curious about it and talking about Waltz. He's running 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.760 for reelection. This would be his third term. I guess 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.680 they don't have term limits for state elected office like 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.080 we have here, So I mean he's on the ballot, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.520 he's running, but I think there now about seven or 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.400 eight other people who are challenging him. And the question is, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.880 I mean, does he make it to election day because 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.880 he's getting pounded every day and justifiably so he makes 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.240 a big deal. Last week, I guess he appointed some 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.440 you know, anti fraud czar, and you know he's got 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.720 the bravado up there. If you commit fraud in Minnesota, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:28.480 you're going to prison. So I'm appointing dude the anti 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.479 fraud czar in Minnesota. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:32.320 You know. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.640 The thing about that is, Governor, you're probably you know, 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.760 three four five years too late on that. Where were 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.920 you again? I would posit that there is no way 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.280 that he could not have known about this. It's just 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.560 too much money going back and forth and again with 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.400 the FBI being involved in it. One of the allegations 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:59.760 is and what people think probably did happen a portion 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:04.880 of that, a portion of that going to terrorist organizations. 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.600 And if that's the case, then I think it's Katie 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:12.920 bar the door on the criminal charges with respect to that. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.080 As I said, and you know, when I was the 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.680 prosecutor and more, when I was criminal defense lawyer dealt 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.800 with the federal criminal Code a little bit, not a lot. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.280 As a defense attorney, I did. There is a federal 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:32.160 criminal charge for just about anything. So I just did 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.800 just a brief search of Google search, really no intense 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:41.080 legal research. But there is a federal statute eighteen US 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:46.160 Code to forty two. It punishes elected officials or officials 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:52.160 in general who willfully deprive individuals of constitutional rights. But 0:16:53.000 --> 0:17:01.280 that requires intent beyond mere negligence. Although concepts like deliberate indifference, 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.280 which means you know about a substantial risk and you 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.760 don't do it. So the case law indicates that deliberate 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:15.680 indifference in specific context. Now, mainly these kind of charges 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:21.360 come from a brutality a federal prison institution, but it's 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.000 not limited to that. Bridge negligence was another one that 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:31.280 I found, and willfulness coupled with corruption it covers the 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.000 broader abuse. So I guess what I'm saying here is 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.879 there is a chance that federal charges could be filed 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.400 against the governor and others. And I wouldn't say that 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:46.280 willy nilly unless I thought there was a good reason 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.840 for it. At the end of the day, I don't 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.760 know that the Feds will prosecute them. They have been 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.000 prosecuting pretty diligently the lower people that they have caught 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.919 red handed in the scandal, and some have gone to prison, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.200 not nearly enough of them. Oh, there's also a state 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.199 statue that I found in Minnesota that I think is 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:11.280 like right on the money on this thing. Minnesota law 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.879 includes a like Ohio law includes a general statute for 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:20.200 misconduct of a public officer employee. The statute is six 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:26.000 O nine point four to three. It criminalizes specific actions 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.880 such as and listen to this intentionally failing to perform 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:36.560 a known, mandatory, non discretionary ministerial duty. Well, what that 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.600 means in plain language is you could have criminal liability. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.280 And it's a misdemeanor, misdemeanor in Minnesota as well as Ohio. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:49.280 But you might have that liability if you intentionally failed 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:54.080 to perform a known duty. And you make a strong 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.520 argument known duty to a governor of a state is 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.159 to at least report court to law enforcement and do 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:09.000 something about widespread corruption that's now at nine billion dollars 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.600 and counting. I mean, it seems pretty clear to me, 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.920 but you go on to say, and this is for me, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.720 I think it's probably fairly accurate. The applicability of this 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.719 statue to the governor's actions or an actions is a 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:30.680 complex legal question, involving interpretations of mandatory duty and intentional failure, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:35.200 which usually require a knowing what they call culpable mental state, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.360 rather than simple negligence or poor judgment. But I don't know. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.600 I mean, I do think you could make an argument 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:46.719 that that kind of a charge would be something that's appropriate. Anyway, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.680 I'd like to know what you think about it. Seven 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.600 four nine seven thousand one eight hundred. The big one 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.359 are the numbers. If you want to be a part 0:19:53.800 --> 0:20:01.720 Mike Allen Infrasloane seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back, Mike 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.679 Allen and for Sloaney seven hundred WLW Hey. We have 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.560 a very important person that called in and want to 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.360 talk to him, and that is State Senator Steve Hoffman. Senator, 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:14.920 thank you so much for calling in. 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.320 Sure I was driving around listening and uh, you know 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.320 you're you're doing a great job on this, but you've 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:28.199 missed one one point, especially here in Ohio. The second 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.600 largest Somali population in the nation is in Columbus, Ohio. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.600 You know what, Senator, And not to cutch off, but 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.400 I've mentioned that a number of times on my Saturday 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.640 show and I keep hearing and maybe you know, sir, 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.359 specifically what they're looking at up there, but boy, that's 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.320 out there and I've heard it. I think a lot 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:48.320 of other people have too. 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:49.399 Oh. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.160 I mean, all through the Medicaid and social service as 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.359 a snap, we need you know that the President talks 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.640 about you know, fraud, waste and abuse. We could save 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.120 millions billions of dollars. 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:02.159 But on this. 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.040 Particular subject, I mean, we need to make sure that 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:10.320 that deef favor of the state Auditor Davios the Attorney 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.440 General are looking into this to see are their similarities 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:19.080 and do something about it here in Ohio because you know, 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.320 you know the prosecutor in Franklin County and in the 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.000 City of Columbus, you know they're not going to do 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:29.480 a thing right because you know they will be just complacent, 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.000 just as the people in the governor in Minnesota. 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:38.159 Are you hearing anything specific, Senator, relative these Somali community 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.160 up in Columbus that you can mention that they might 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.399 be looking at. I would guess it's probably similar to 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.879 this stuff. But you know, I got callers coming in, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.159 calling in and saying there is something that's going to 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.359 blow real soon, but they didn't really know what it was. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.280 I have not heard anything at the state level. I 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.520 think that there's a lot of similarities that have to 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.359 be looked at, and if there is something, you know, 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.800 we need to prosecute them and stop the fraud here 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:07.760 in the state of Ohio. But if there isn't, that's 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:09.959 that's great too, But we need to look into it 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:11.960 because of the similarities. 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.200 No question, no question. Let me ask you, sir, you've 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:18.520 been around a while. Uh, have you ever seen anything 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:24.479 anywhere approaching the magnitude of this thing in Minnesota? 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.040 They have just absolutely dropped the ball. 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:27.920 Yeah, there is. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.360 Nothing to the magnitude. I mean, you know, a few 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.439 times a year you hear somebody that you know that 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.440 overinflated the number of people at the daycare center, or hey, 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.119 we're going to overbuild these these people and our and 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.760 our nurses never actually went out and saw the client, 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.080 and you know it's a million, and you know two 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:52.480 million dollars, but to get to nine billion is just unbelievable. 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:56.000 Nine billion and counting. Well, I'll tell you what, I 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.600 sure appreciate you calling in center. Did I really do? 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.080 And call in any time? And we're all going to 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.560 be keeping an eye on Columbus and see what's popping 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:03.960 up there. 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.480 If I know more, I'll get back to you. Have 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.960 a good day and happy New Year you too, sir. 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.360 Thank you? All right. I wasn't expecting that, but I'm 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.880 glad that he called State Senator Huffman. He is from 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.639 the fifth Senate district covers part of my old stomping 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:24.200 grounds up there in Preble County, Pickway and places in between. 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.320 But I'm glad that he called. Hey, let's go back 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:32.240 to the phones. Let me talk to Angie in Kentucky. 0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:38.160 Are you doing Hey, I'm doing good. I was calling 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.520 to let you know that there is no way the 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.120 government is not in on the Somalia taxpayer fraud from 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:45.160 the feel that way. 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.200 Why do you feel that way, Angie? 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.000 From the governor all the way down to the inspectors. 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.640 Because my dad owns the car lot and didn't put 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.280 a forest sale as is sticker in one of his 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.439 windows and had to go to court. So there's no 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.160 way the government doesn't know about it. 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.760 You know, I tend to agree with you, but again, 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.159 it's just hard for me to fathom. And you know, 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.760 like I said, I've been around a while that an 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:16.880 elected official, let's just say Governor Waltz knew about this 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.160 and didn't do a damn thing. Now what people are 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:23.480 speculating that he did know about He had to know 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.199 about it, but not only him, but other people up 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.320 there too. They didn't want to do anything about it 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.800 or say anything about it because they would be called racist, 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:35.119 you know, and that's just not right, and that's a shame. 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:36.040 If that were the case. 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:41.439 Yeah, money runs deep and that you know, these daycares 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.320 have to be inspected, so yeah, well I need to 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:46.560 check their pockets too. 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:47.120 Well. 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.960 I don't know if you heard the first segment here, 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:54.080 I played about a minute clip of an investigative journalist 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.480 and a podcaster that showed up last week at one 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:03.879 of these leg daycare centers. It was the Something Learning Center, 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.520 but they couldn't even spell learning right, and I guess 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:12.200 there's just like nobody there. They had the windows rolled 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:16.240 up and covered up. So yeah, I mean people, you 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.720 would think that at least the citizens would have known 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.800 about it, But I think we've just seen the tip 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.359 of the iceberg here, Angie. 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.320 Yeah, they need to investigate the inspectors too about why 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:31.720 they're not doing their jobs and fraud in the taxpayers. 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:36.120 No question about it. I really appreciate your call, thank you. Yeah, 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.800 you know, as far as know about it, they had to. 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.760 They had to, and it's in my opinion, I think 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.840 an opinion a lot of others at least gross negligence 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.359 and possibly something even more than that. Hey, let's talk 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.720 to Jeff up in Zenia. Hey, good morning, Jeff. 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.159 I'm in Florida. 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:57.040 Oh are you? 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:57.360 Oh? 0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.840 Man, I wish I was in Florida. I got too 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.480 yes this morning, apologize for that. Let's talk to Florida Jef. 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:05.560 All right, well that's me. 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:13.160 I would like your opinion regarding that individual in Minnesota. 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:13.560