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Speaker 1: and it is now up to by most people's count,

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Speaker 1: He's on this thing like white on Rice. He shows

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Speaker 2: Fraud is taking place within the government and the Somali

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Speaker 2: Yet they spelt learning wrong and they said leering. This

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Speaker 2: Try to go inside, it's completely closed and the windows

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Speaker 2: And this is just one of the hundreds of child

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Speaker 1: She has been assigned this whole thing, the whole Minnesota deal.

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Speaker 1: Sloaney seven hundred WLW all week. You know, talking about

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Speaker 1: For immigration studies, some of the disparities. Sixty six percent

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Speaker 1: The thing about that is, Governor, you're probably you know,

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Speaker 4: Sure I was driving around listening and uh, you know

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Speaker 4: you're you're doing a great job on this, but you've

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Speaker 1: You know what, Senator, And not to cutch off, but

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I mean, all through the Medicaid and social service as

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Speaker 5: But on this.

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Speaker 4: Particular subject, I mean, we need to make sure that

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Speaker 4: that deef favor of the state Auditor Davios the Attorney

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Speaker 4: General are looking into this to see are their similarities

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Speaker 1: Are you hearing anything specific, Senator, relative these Somali community

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Speaker 4: I have not heard anything at the state level. I

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Speaker 1: No question, no question. Let me ask you, sir, you've

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Speaker 4: They have just absolutely dropped the ball.

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Speaker 4: Nothing to the magnitude. I mean, you know, a few

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Speaker 4: and you know it's a million, and you know two

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Speaker 1: Nine billion and counting. Well, I'll tell you what, I

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Speaker 1: sure appreciate you calling in center. Did I really do?

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Speaker 1: And call in any time? And we're all going to

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Speaker 4: If I know more, I'll get back to you. Have

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Speaker 4: a good day and happy New Year you too, sir.

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Speaker 1: Thank you? All right. I wasn't expecting that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that he called State Senator Huffman. He is from

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Speaker 6: Are you doing Hey, I'm doing good. I was calling

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Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way, Angie?

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Speaker 6: From the governor all the way down to the inspectors.

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Speaker 1: If that were the case.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, money runs deep and that you know, these daycares

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard the first segment here,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they need to investigate the inspectors too about why

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Speaker 1: No question about it. I really appreciate your call, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Oh are you?

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Speaker 1: Man, I wish I was in Florida. I got too

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Speaker 1: yes this morning, apologize for that. Let's talk to Florida Jef.

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Speaker 3: All right, well that's me.

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Speaker 7: I would like your opinion regarding that individual in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Wall.

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Speaker 7: I can't stand that guy back with the civilian stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 7: let's let the civilians getting It's my understanding. There's no

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Speaker 7: because if you look at his military record, yes, isn't

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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean when when when old hospital medics

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Speaker 7: I'm coming from. So anyway, he my goodness, as the governor,

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Speaker 1: He is in charging with that. There are so many things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the governor is in charge of the national need federalized.

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Speaker 7: This guy ought to be in Leavenworth.

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Speaker 1: I'm wreaking rocks. I'm with you anyway. He's just such

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Speaker 5: He's at too.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, listen.

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Speaker 7: You've gotten my blood pressure up to where it needs

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Speaker 7: to be. I think I'll go fishing now. By the way,

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you what, if you like bass fishing, yes, uh,

432
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Speaker 7: you're you're wishing you were right where I am. I'll

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Speaker 7: bet it is un Have you ever been to the

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Speaker 7: swamp marsh?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I have, no, I have not.

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Speaker 7: If you like catching big bass, go to the swamp

438
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Speaker 7: marsh and some people call it canal fifty four. Okay, buddy,

439
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 7: I'm telling you what. That's where it's at. There you

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Speaker 7: go where I'm going, Well, good luck, Jeff, you know everybody?

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks. Not much of a fisherman, but I'd love

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Speaker 1: to try that. And frankly, given the weather situation, I'd

443
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Speaker 1: rather be where he is than where I am. Okay, Oh,

444
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Speaker 1: this is going to be a good one. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Paul in Westchester. Hey, good morning, Paul, Morning Mike,

446
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Speaker 1: how program? Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I'm fine. I think the first or the second week

448
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 9: when Trump showed up in Washington in January, he fired

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Speaker 9: all of the inspector general that were appointed by Biden,

450
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Speaker 9: and we didn't hear why. But shortly after that the

451
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Speaker 9: USAID fraud scam came up. And I suspect that inspector

452
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Speaker 9: generals are the people that kind of get down in

453
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Speaker 9: the weeds see where the money actually goes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, is that correct? Do you know much about inspector.

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Speaker 1: General I do a little bit, but and I know

456
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Speaker 1: what you're saying too. He did fire a number of them,

457
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Speaker 1: but they were replaced. They were well maybe it was

458
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Speaker 1: all of them, but they were replaced. And here's the

459
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: thing I'll be I'm gonna be respectful because you have

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Speaker 1: been respectful. How can you put it on them? I mean,

461
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't the state and their inspector generals known something

462
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Speaker 1: like about this that's happening in their own state. I

463
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Speaker 1: get it. I get it when all else fails blamed Trump,

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Speaker 1: I get that, But this ain't on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 5: I'm not blaming I'm not blaming Trump.

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Speaker 9: I think when they had the idea of Dose coming in, I.

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Speaker 7: Think they have to look in to see where.

468
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Speaker 5: All these dollars are going.

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Speaker 9: Otherwise it just goes to fraud, like the USA ID fiasco.

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Speaker 9: But I don't know how deep into the weeds they

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Speaker 9: can follow.

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Speaker 5: The dollars well, U s A I D.

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Speaker 1: I mean they cleaned that up real quick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that was the first thing that Doge did,

475
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Speaker 1: or maybe it was even before Dose, when Trump first

476
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Speaker 1: came in. They cleaned that up like too sweet. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's a problem with the IGS,

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Speaker 1: but I understand your point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he knows that they were all feeding into the

480
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Speaker 9: fraud thing, and they're Biden.

481
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Speaker 5: Obviously.

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Speaker 9: Once the Biden people have an idea, they just, you know,

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Speaker 9: give all that.

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Speaker 3: Money away and it just continues.

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Speaker 5: That's a shame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I'm going to look at that.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to look at that now. I have a

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Speaker 1: response tomorrow. But I appreciate your call. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Trump did. I don't think he fired all of them,

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Speaker 1: but he fired a lot of them. And guess what,

491
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't he I mean the Inspectors General under Joe

492
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Speaker 1: Biden didn't do a real good job of finding anything,

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Speaker 1: and again my understanding is they were replaced. But even

494
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Speaker 1: more so, this is not a federal government problem. It's

495
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Speaker 1: not it's the federal government's job to clean it up

496
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: now apparently, But this ain't on the feds. This is

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Speaker 1: on the people in elected and appointed positions in that state.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, I think we've got time for one more. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Matthew. Hey, Matthew, how you doing. Hi?

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Speaker 5: Mike just wanted to call in real quick. I'm actually

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Speaker 5: in Preble County right now work, and I do you know,

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Speaker 5: I have to stay anonymous unfortunately, because, like you said,

503
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Speaker 5: the threat of being accused is you know, yeah, not

504
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 5: a good thing to be accused of being you know, prejudiced.

505
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Speaker 5: But I work in a field where I have to

506
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Speaker 5: go in people's homes a lot, and I travel from

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Speaker 5: county to county and I'm in Montgomery County a lot

508
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Speaker 5: and never going to travel. So I've been in dating

509
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Speaker 5: a lot. And with the Nick Shirley stuff coming out,

510
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Speaker 5: it has kind of opened my eyes a little bit

511
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Speaker 5: about things that I have, patterns that I've been seen

512
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Speaker 5: in the past, and I have gone to apartment complexes

513
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: that are you know, they have doors to the outside

514
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Speaker 5: where you don't have to go inside the building. It's

515
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Speaker 5: like a motel type apartment complex. And I go there

516
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Speaker 5: and the place is pretty much abandoned except for a

517
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Speaker 5: lot of you know, American Africans that are, you know,

518
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Speaker 5: just kind of standing around. And I would go into

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Speaker 5: the apartment and the place looks vacant. Every place looks vacant.

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Speaker 5: And I went in and there was like a woman

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Speaker 5: who was a little delayed, but she was pleasant and

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Speaker 5: she didn't raise any alarms about these people or anything

523
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Speaker 5: like that. So that wasn't a nice super sistic. But

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Speaker 5: in Dayton, you know, you go right down Route seventy

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Speaker 5: and you're in Columbus, that's right second largest And I

526
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Speaker 5: didn't know anything about the Simolians anywhere really, but seeing

527
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Speaker 5: that there's the second largest Samolian population in Columbus, it

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Speaker 5: makes sense they would go down Route seventy to Dayton

529
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Speaker 5: as well and open up these satellite type facilities. And

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Speaker 5: Nick Shirley has exposed not only the daycares and other

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Speaker 5: institutions like that that have been opened up as kind

532
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Speaker 5: of shell institutions that are just leading the federal government

533
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Speaker 5: and state money all that stuff. But he's also uncovered

534
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Speaker 5: home health services a lot too, and home health transportation services.

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Speaker 5: So that raised the red flag for me that there

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Speaker 5: is probably some stuff going on in the Montgomery County

537
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Speaker 5: as well. But also, and I don't want to accuse anyone,

538
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Speaker 5: but this is just something that I picked up on.

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Speaker 5: I noticed a lot of very wealthy Turkish speaking people

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Speaker 5: that I would go into the reality, very very wealthy

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Speaker 5: people living in brand new houses, and I'm like, I

542
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Speaker 5: work my butt off. These people are living better than

543
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Speaker 5: I am. And they all of their families run these

544
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: trucking companies that they would talk to me about. And

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Speaker 5: I started doing some digging on it, and these people

546
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 5: are a time. They pronounce this ah I ska heat

547
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: scot Turkish people that were refugees from the Soviet Union

548
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. They were brought over here in two

549
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Speaker 5: thousand and four to two thousand and six from the

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Speaker 5: US State Department or US Department of State and the

551
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: International Organization of Migration brought the Turkey's families. To date,

552
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Speaker 5: in two thousand and six, they were facing refuge refugee status.

553
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Speaker 5: They were given a lot of incentives and things like

554
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Speaker 5: that that it makes me start to scratch my head.

555
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: Were these incentives? Are these loopholes that these people are

556
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Speaker 5: taking advantage of potentially and getting funded for things that

557
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: they're not. You know, it's I don't want to accuse

558
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Speaker 5: anybody of but it does raise a red flag. It

559
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Speaker 5: looks like the Somalians have done this very easily and

560
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: it's very organized. It isn't just individuals just saying hey,

561
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Speaker 5: I'm going to open up one too. They are being

562
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Speaker 5: they have to be being helped. This has to be

563
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Speaker 5: some sort of organized crime element, whether it's uh, the

564
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Speaker 5: what alf Shabab or whatever they.

565
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: Are, Yeah, that's the terrorist group. That's something a lot

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Speaker 1: of the money's going.

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Speaker 5: To exactly and look at look at Omar for instance, mister. Yeah,

568
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Speaker 5: she her net worth is coming out, that her networth

569
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Speaker 5: has exploded. Yes, her husband owns a lot of companies

570
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: and things like that, but are these shell companies too.

571
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Speaker 5: She has stated, you know, she's a dual citizen. She

572
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Speaker 5: has stated that her priority is not Americans, it is Somalians.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that you know what though, Matthew, Unfortunately I'm running

574
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Speaker 1: out of time though, But I'm glad you bought that

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Speaker 1: final point up. She did say that, and she's probably

576
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Speaker 1: in this damn thing up to her neck. But great call.

577
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: I really appreciate she tipping us off. And hear anything else,

578
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: give us a call, thank you. Yeah, she's not here

579
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Speaker 1: to help Americans, She's here to help people from Somalia.

580
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: Well then what the hell are you doing in the

581
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Speaker 1: United States Congress? You know, hey, we got to take

582
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Speaker 1: a break for the news butt when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember, shortly after the twenty twenty four election,

584
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Speaker 1: whoever was the head of the Democrat National Committee said

585
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Speaker 1: we are going to do this expensive deep dive into

586
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: why our party's gone to crap. We're going to talk

587
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: to this and we're going to talk to that. One's

588
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: going to be expensive, and when we're finished, we're going

589
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: to share it with everyone. Well that's not the case.

590
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Speaker 1: And when we come back, we are going to talk

591
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Speaker 1: to Daniel Greenfield. He's the CEO of the David Horowitz

592
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Speaker 1: Freedom Center. He got that post in twenty twenty five.

593
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: He did a very very good article on just that question.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to mister Greenfield when we get back.

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Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW today obviously Tomorrow, Wednesday,

596
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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, So appreciate the opportunity to pinch hit

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00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: for Scott Sloan. Hey, do you remember after the debacle

598
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: for the Democrats that it was the twenty twenty four elections,

599
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: They were kind of like running around with chickens with

600
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: their heads cut off, thinking what do we do? What

601
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Speaker 1: do we do? Well? They decided the DNC, the Democrat

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00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: National Committee, to put together this very comprehensive and expensive,

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Speaker 1: as I recall, kind of a study, an autopsy, if

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Speaker 1: you will, and they committed at the time that hey,

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Speaker 1: we are going to make this thing public. Well, a

606
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago, maybe it was even last week, they

607
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Speaker 1: renigged on that and said, no, we're not going to

608
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Speaker 1: make it public. They got all kinds of grief for

609
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: that from Republicans obviously, but mainly mainly it seems like

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Speaker 1: from Democrats you got high profile Democrats and Clinton former

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00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: aide you got job Favreau. John Lovett condemned the move

612
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: as unreal and patronizing. Another progressive commentator, Nina Turner, said

613
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Speaker 1: it was a bad move, and activist David Hogg accused

614
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Speaker 1: the Party of spiking an essential review. Now the obvious

615
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: question becomes why didn't they share it? Here to talk

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Speaker 1: about that is David Greenfield. He is the author of

617
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Speaker 1: an excellent op ed in Front Page magazine entitled Democrats

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Speaker 1: can't release their twenty twenty four autopsy because it shows

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Speaker 1: systemic corruption. Mister Greenfield, thank you so much for calling

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Speaker 1: in this morning.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hey. The obvious question, like I said, they did, and

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember they were all over the place saying,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna make it public. We're gonna make

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Speaker 1: it public. And I know that the title of the

626
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Speaker 1: article kind of answers the question. But why do you

627
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Speaker 1: think was there anything in particular? I guess is the

628
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Speaker 1: question that you think kind of spooked him on that,

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Speaker 1: you know, on.

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Speaker 10: The past Party autopsy talks about what we could have

631
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Speaker 10: done differently. You know, we made bad decisions. We should

632
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Speaker 10: not have run on this, We should have run on this.

633
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Speaker 10: In this case, they ran somebody who was mentally incompetent.

634
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Speaker 10: They knew he was mentally incompetent. They collected over a

635
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Speaker 10: billion dollars to do this, and they keep claiming that

636
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Speaker 10: this was some inner circle party decision. No, the entire

637
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Speaker 10: Democratic Party actively cleared the way for Biden to be

638
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Speaker 10: the only candidate. They targeted anybody who even considered running

639
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Speaker 10: against them. They shifted around their primary schedule in order

640
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Speaker 10: to make a clear path for Biden. They moved up

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Speaker 10: South Carolina to do that.

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Speaker 7: So this was a.

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Speaker 10: Systemic party corruption. That's a billion dour fraud. You can't

644
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Speaker 10: even begin to talk about that because if you open

645
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 10: that can of worms, you're dealing not only with massive

646
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Speaker 10: party fraud, you're dealing with the whole question of who

647
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Speaker 10: was making decisions in the White House.

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Speaker 3: What did Kamala know? All that stuff.

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Speaker 10: They can't even begin to talk about that because there's

650
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Speaker 10: criminal materials involved in that.

651
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Speaker 1: No question about it. And I was really surprised when

652
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Speaker 1: they made that commitment because those things are generally in

653
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Speaker 1: house and you know only the party gets it. But hey,

654
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Speaker 1: they did say it. One of your the second reason

655
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Speaker 1: that you list in your op ed it is absolutely

656
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Speaker 1: on the money. The party is to scent into wokeness

657
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: alienated men on an unprecedented scale, leading to major problems

658
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Speaker 1: even with the minority vote, and you know they lost

659
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Speaker 1: their the hispanic vote we gained, But the thing of

660
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Speaker 1: it is the the wokeness. It really was on an

661
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Speaker 1: unprecedented scale. But I don't see them learning any lessons

662
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: from that, do you.

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Speaker 10: You know, after the election they try to pivot a

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Speaker 10: little bit. Gavin News a few other Democrats came out

665
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Speaker 10: and said, you know, I know, maybe boys shouldn't compete

666
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Speaker 10: against growths. That were a limit as far as they

667
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Speaker 10: were willing to go, And mostly they've backpedaled from it afterward.

668
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Speaker 10: California has changed absolutely nothing. They've gone on defending putting

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Speaker 10: men into women's sports. The Washington Post just has a

670
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Speaker 10: new article talking about how a man who competes against

671
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Speaker 10: women is just just so on fair.

672
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Speaker 3: He has no special perks.

673
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Speaker 10: So they've really begun circling break back to that because

674
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Speaker 10: they've decided we can go back to wolkeness, which is

675
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Speaker 10: going to run on affordability.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's an eighty twenty issue, the whole thing

677
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Speaker 1: with you know, boys in girls' sports, and it's been

678
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Speaker 1: consistently that way. I guess they can't see the forest

679
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: through the trees because, as you so accurately point out,

680
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: they're descent into wokeness, alienated men on an unprecedented scale.

681
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Speaker 1: They are now. As a matter of fact, I heard

682
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Speaker 1: this morning, mister Greenfield, that they're now doing something or

683
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: in the process of doing something to try to strengthen

684
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Speaker 1: their vote among men. Did you hear that at all?

685
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Speaker 1: What they're do you have any idea what they're going

686
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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 10: It's the same stuff Kamal was trying to do during

688
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 10: one of her dozen pivots during her campaign. You know,

689
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Speaker 10: it was on the one hundred and seven days and

690
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 10: all that, So she began talking about, I'm going to

691
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Speaker 10: get behind crypto, I'm going to get behind helping young

692
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Speaker 10: men hustle and make money. And I'm going to write

693
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Speaker 10: checks to black men. No way, I can't just write

694
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Speaker 10: to chext to black men. I'm going to write checks

695
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Speaker 10: to young men. It was all the stuff that's I'm convincing.

696
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 10: Bottom line is they haven't actually dealt with the reality.

697
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Speaker 10: This is a party whose classrooms right now these days

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Speaker 10: actually have toxic masculinity classes in high school.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know, really way to win over those

700
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Speaker 8: young men.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're going to teach you that being a man

702
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Speaker 10: is bad, but we're also going to write you a check.

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Speaker 1: In high schools Now I hadn't heard that, you know,

704
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Speaker 1: the college campus is intellectual cesspool, But I know, I

705
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Speaker 1: mean some of the attempted or wokeness that they try

706
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Speaker 1: to teach, some of it even starts in grade school.

707
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Speaker 1: But it seems to me, and I want to see

708
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Speaker 1: what you think about it. Maybe, just maybe, conservatives are

709
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Speaker 1: starting to begin of a little bit of a toe

710
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Speaker 1: hold on college campuses. It's not much, but at least

711
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Speaker 1: it's something. Do you agree or disagree.

712
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Speaker 7: Something?

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Speaker 10: Just to remember that college campuses have shifted dramatically. They're

714
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Speaker 10: majority young women at this point, they're increasingly many of

715
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Speaker 10: the college campuses, the idealing ones, the big ones, are

716
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Speaker 10: increasingly dominated by demographics that are hostile to conservatives. So

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Speaker 10: I think we need to fundamentally transform what college looks like.

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Speaker 3: We need to stop.

719
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Speaker 10: Funding all the various woke ethnic studies, various studies in general.

720
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Speaker 10: We need to actually focus on core competency and core careers.

721
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Speaker 10: So it's fine if we actually want to subsidize the

722
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Speaker 10: engineering department. Should we subsidize the Latino studies department? Not

723
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Speaker 10: so much, I.

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Speaker 1: Hear you, And it takes some courage from the college administrators.

725
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Speaker 1: President Board of trustees or whatever to do that, and

726
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Speaker 1: you don't see much of it. But I do think

727
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Speaker 1: you're starting to see a little bit more of it

728
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Speaker 1: along those lines. I gotta tell you, I saw an

729
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Speaker 1: article I forget where it was, I copied it. I'm

730
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Speaker 1: going to talk about it at some point from some

731
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Speaker 1: college professor that said the movie which I just rewatched

732
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Speaker 1: again a couple of days ago, It's a Wonderful Life,

733
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Speaker 1: was racist. It's just that kind of craziness that I

734
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Speaker 1: think gets people scratching their heads.

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Speaker 10: Not all that long ago, Disney Plus and a number

736
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Speaker 10: of other services had warnings on pretty much everything made

737
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Speaker 10: before ten years ago, stating that there's something wrong with that.

738
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Speaker 10: There's stereotypes in there, there's fat shaving, there's something So

739
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 10: every movie I just one, is considered prejudiced.

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Speaker 1: It sure seems that way. I wanted to ask you

741
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Speaker 1: coming out of twenty twenty four election, Republicans look pretty good.

742
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Speaker 1: It seems like that's I'm talking about the poll numbers.

743
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Speaker 1: It seems like that's dwindled somewhat going into the midterms

744
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. You know, the approval rate for Democrats

745
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: for congressional the House was just horrible, and the Republicans

746
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: were about fifteen points up on them. They're about even now.

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Speaker 1: I just thinking, I want to hear your thoughts that

748
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Speaker 1: the average voter, you know, man, woman, whatever, they're so

749
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Speaker 1: busy with their daily lives or or they've been so

750
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Speaker 1: indoctrinated or both, that they're just not tuned in and

751
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: don't care. I worry about that. For a short period

752
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Speaker 1: of time, I actually thought we had a chance at

753
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Speaker 1: keeping the House, which, of course the tradition is that

754
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Speaker 1: the party in power loses seats. Do you have any

755
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: explanation or any thesis on that. Why I thought things

756
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Speaker 1: were going forward, looks like maybe somewhat they're going backward.

757
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Speaker 10: The bottom line is the House is always unpopular, no

758
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 10: matter who's in a true it's west popular than Samali fraudsters,

759
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 10: and a lot of the tree is really voting on

760
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Speaker 10: I'm going into the grocery store and do I like

761
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 10: the prices they see or not. That's what happened in

762
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Speaker 10: the last election. That's like we'd happen in the selection.

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Speaker 10: You know, we've seen actual oppolls and surveys. A lot

764
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 10: of people, Yes, President Trump has done a lot of

765
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 10: great things, a lot of important things are being done,

766
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Speaker 10: but for a lot of the country, they just care

767
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 10: about what's in their wallet, which is understandable, and I

768
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 10: think there needs to be more of a shift to

769
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Speaker 10: recognizing that.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I just looked at him this morning.

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Speaker 1: The economic numbers on his second term, they're not bad

772
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Speaker 1: at all. But that story, of course, is not going

773
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Speaker 1: to get out in the mainstream media in any way,

774
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Speaker 1: shape or form. I wanted to ask you this. You

775
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: brought it up, and I really do want to get

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Speaker 1: your opinion on it. The situation in Minnesota with the

777
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Speaker 1: Somali fraudsters. I'll tell you what, I have never seen

778
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Speaker 1: anything like that, mister Greenfield, and I've been around for

779
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: a while. I mean, did that shock you or are

780
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Speaker 1: you surprised by just the breadth of it.

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00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 10: I began reporting on us back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

782
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 10: they got really bad around the pandemic Carrial government was

783
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 10: just writing checks. But it's the tip of a very

784
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 10: big iceberg. So the Somalis did was they had absolutely

785
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Speaker 10: no self control. So they took a program that was

786
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 10: you know, they could have ripped off from millions, and

787
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Speaker 10: then they took it into the hundreds of millions a year,

788
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Speaker 10: which was you know, complete the lack of self control.

789
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Speaker 10: But they're not the only ones doing this. Unfortunately, our

790
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 10: welfare system is completely covered with fraud and the total

791
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Speaker 10: is over a ten year period would be in the trillions.

792
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Speaker 10: But what they did was just complete, complete robbery. You know,

793
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Speaker 10: they would take a program and just invent one hundred

794
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 10: thousand kids that didn't exist, and when anybody objected, they

795
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Speaker 10: would say you're racist, and they would organize a protest.

796
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Speaker 10: So what's extraordinary about them is just the complete piracy

797
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Speaker 10: of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, And you're right. I mean I've read about

799
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Speaker 1: it a lot because if one thing, it's been a

800
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Speaker 1: boom for talk radio. People want to talk about this,

801
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Speaker 1: and you brought it up. I mean, the acountability part

802
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: of it. Somebody has to be held accountable for this,

803
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: because it's at nine billion and growing. I mean, my

804
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: guess is at the end of the day it's going

805
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Speaker 1: to be a lot more than that. Do you think

806
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Speaker 1: that someone, whether it's the governor, attorney general, whoever, in

807
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: an elected position, will be out accountable for this.

808
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Speaker 10: They should be, But the Democratic Farmer Labor Party, the

809
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 10: guys running the show, are completely in on it, Governor

810
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 10: Tim Wallatz, Tony general'keith, that's Ellison. These were people who

811
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Speaker 10: are actually getting votes, block of votes from the Somali community,

812
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 10: and they were happy to sign off on this. They

813
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 10: probably didn't expect it to get so extreme, but you know,

814
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Speaker 10: it's not their money in the first place, so they

815
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 10: were fine with it.

816
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Speaker 1: No.

817
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 10: They'll be held accountable unless there's federal intervention. Right now,

819
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Speaker 10: we are seeing federal intervention.

820
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. And you know I talked about this

821
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Speaker 1: just before. I don't know. I mean, I would like

822
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Speaker 1: to see some criminal accountability for the two people that

823
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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, the governor and the Attorney general, who,

824
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Speaker 1: by the way, happens to be a good buddy of

825
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: lovable Louis Farrakhn. I think that speaks volumes, but I

826
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Speaker 1: don't know. You know, I'm an attorney. I was a

827
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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney for about twenty years working in federal courts,

828
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Speaker 1: and I started looking. It's hard to find a statute

829
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Speaker 1: that is completely on point Minnesota criminal Code. There may

830
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Speaker 1: be some things, do you think that will eventually happen

831
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Speaker 1: that someone in a position of authority to wit those

832
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Speaker 1: two jokers will be held criminally accountable.

833
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Speaker 10: Well, we've got to take Keith Ellison, Attorney General, Keith

834
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Speaker 10: Ellison meeting with some of the SAMI frausters involved in

835
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Speaker 10: promising him that he would help them out, and they

836
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Speaker 10: talked about supporting him. That's grounds for something. It's not

837
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 10: hard evidence you have to actually go to. You have

838
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 10: to prove that they actually knew what was going on

839
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Speaker 10: and that they covered up for it. And I'm not

840
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 10: saying that there might not be a smoke again like that.

841
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 10: I just wouldn't really hold out hope for it.

842
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Speaker 1: No, And I understand question, and you know, maybe I'm naive.

843
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: I'd hate to think that somebody like those two are

844
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: stuff and money in their pockets like the Biden crime

845
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Speaker 1: family did, but who knows. I mean, this will be

846
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Speaker 1: the last question, and this is one I just I

847
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: need to get an answer to this from someone. And

848
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Speaker 1: I've got the chair of our state party coming on later.

849
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him how in the heck, in the

850
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Speaker 1: vetting process that everyone does both parties for a national ticket,

851
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Speaker 1: how in the heck did all this problem, all these

852
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Speaker 1: problems in Minnesota not get found out about, if you will,

853
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: while they were vetting the governor. Now, Waltz, do you

854
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: have any opinion on that.

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Speaker 10: First, if you disqualify any state governor where there's major

856
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 10: fragu going on on his watch, you wouldn't get any Democrats,

857
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 10: certainly not any Democrat governor that you know. That's all

858
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 10: the qualifying. I mean, you think this isn't going on

859
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 10: in Pennsylvania, You think this isn't going on in every

860
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Speaker 10: state that they'd consider and to This was a campaign

861
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Speaker 10: that was so incompetent, that was so inept that it

862
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Speaker 10: couldn't even bother to write a new party platform for Kamala.

863
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Speaker 5: They used the same old one.

864
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Speaker 10: They couldn't do find and replace the Microsoft word and

865
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Speaker 10: swap out Biden's name with Kamala. This is a campaign

866
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 10: that couldn't figure I how to print lawn signs, but

867
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Speaker 10: spend one point five million dollars, So I'm not surprised

868
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Speaker 10: by anything. They picked the dumbest man around to be

869
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Speaker 10: their public face.

870
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you.

871
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Speaker 10: Would think they would just look at a picture of

872
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 10: Tom Wallis and go, god no, but forget the vedding yep.

873
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: And there again you talk about accountability, Biden skates, I

874
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: mean he skates on anything. And in my personal opinion,

875
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: I probably just too wound up about this. You know,

876
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Speaker 1: Watergate is a parking ticket compared to the millions of

877
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: dollars that the Biden family were cramming in their pockets,

878
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: and it would have peer that he's going to skate

879
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: on that, just like he did with the whole situation

880
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: of bringing the top secret documents out. And you know,

881
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: I've been involved in criminal law for a long time,

882
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: but I have never heard of a senile old man defense,

883
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: which I guess the special prosecutor felt that that was

884
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: appropriate in that case.

885
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 10: And the Bidens remember where amateurs compared with the Clintons

886
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 10: who did this on an even bigger scale and skated

887
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 10: on everything. And the Obamas are just creating their own

888
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 10: political infrastructure and there's been zero accountability there as well.

889
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 10: So at this point Kamala has gone through one point

890
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 10: five billion dollars with that entire campaign. She does not

891
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 10: have a senile old man defense. I mean, may be

892
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 10: a very stupid defense. Yes, I don't think that's a

893
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 10: legal defense.

894
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: No it's not. I'll tell you what. I really appreciate

895
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: you spending time with us, mister Greenfield. Some good stuff

896
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: here and hope we can call on.

897
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 10: You again, would be my pleasure.

898
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, sir. All Right, we're going to

899
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: take a short break, come back just for a very

900
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: short period, and then at ten thirty we've got James Hrson.

901
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: He's going to be talking about the Reiner murders. He's

902
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: an attorney. He does a lot of things and possible

903
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: defenses to that, and we'll do that at ten thirty.

904
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Slowey seven hundred WLW for Sloaney

905
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: today and the rest of the week. Well, I know

906
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: y'all heard about it in a case that shocked the

907
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: entertainment world and really everybody in this country. Nick Reiner,

908
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: the son of legendary filmmaker Rob Reiner. Boy he was

909
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: and I know he was to the left pretty much so,

910
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: but had a hell of a career, a lot of

911
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: good movies. He stands accused of first degree murdered, two

912
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: counts of it, murder of his father and also his mother,

913
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Speaker 1: Michelle Reiner. Now everybody is expecting an insanity defense, but

914
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: that defense is fraught with problems, and we're going to

915
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: be talking about that with our next guest, who is

916
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: James Harson, And I tell you what, mister Herson has

917
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: a hell of a background. Every time I have him on,

918
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: I learned something new about him. He is a former

919
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: keyboardist for The Temptations, one of my favorite groups. Mister

920
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: Hearson regularly discusses Hollywood and politics. He's on Fox a lot,

921
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: sEH Hannity, Laura Ingram. He's on a lot of those shows,

922
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: numerous other national TV and radio programs. He's the author

923
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: of the popular weekly Newsmax column, The Left Coast Report.

924
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: He hosts his own daily radio program on a nasty

925
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: syndicated network. In addition to all of that, he teaches

926
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Speaker 1: law at both Trinity Law School and Biola University in

927
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Speaker 1: southern California. He lives in a place I wish I

928
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: was now, Newport Beach. Mister Herson, welcome back to seven

929
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: hundred wlw Oh, it's great.

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00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 11: To be with you. Yeah, sorry, we have to discuss

931
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 11: such a.

932
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Speaker 8: Grizzly cast you.

933
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 11: Rob Reiner's tweets his politics were off the meter extreme left. However,

934
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 11: Rob Reiner, at least I never met him, But I

935
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 11: work in the entertainment field and people love this guy.

936
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 11: I mean, he's very loyal to his friends. He was

937
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 11: I used to say, and he was. He was a

938
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 11: brilliant guy that came from a brilliant family. Carl Reiner

939
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 11: was his father, the famous producer, and nobody you know,

940
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 11: this is when somebody, uh, when a mother and father

941
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Speaker 11: are murdered by their son, it's a Shakespearean tragedy.

942
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 8: You know, it's not Onlye's it's.

943
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 11: Shocking, but you know, we everyone wants to see justice done.

944
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 11: So you brought up the insanity plate and it's hard

945
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 11: for people to believe that actually in California, that law

946
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Speaker 11: is very traditional.

947
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 8: I mean it actually comes Our law.

948
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Speaker 11: Comes from the British law and the rule for insanity

949
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 11: comes from a nineteenth century British case and it's still

950
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 11: the same the McNaughton case, right.

951
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 3: And this is.

952
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Speaker 11: So essentially even though Nick Reiner, it's come out he

953
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Speaker 11: was treating for schizophrenia, he was on some sort of

954
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Speaker 11: medication we don't know yet. That's going to come into

955
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Speaker 11: this case for sure. And the reason everybody thinks that

956
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 11: insanity plea will be brought is because essentially any defense

957
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Speaker 11: lawyer would do that. In this case, you've got a

958
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Speaker 11: real high.

959
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 8: Profile, experienced defense lawyer, and.

960
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Speaker 11: It appears a really high profile, experienced prosecutor. So both

961
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Speaker 11: of these guys have dealt with celebrities and lots of

962
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 11: media and they and they really know what they're doing.

963
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 11: And this Alan Jackson, there's no way that a guy

964
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Speaker 11: that seasoned like that wouldn't try, you know.

965
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Speaker 8: The insanity defense.

966
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 11: But in California it's done. You know, you really have

967
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 11: to show the person did not know what they were doing,

968
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 11: did not understand right and wrong. It's almost like it

969
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 11: wasn't volitional. And there's problems with that in terms of

970
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 11: the just the facts that have already been reported, and

971
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Speaker 11: juries don't like it because in California they require two

972
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 11: phases of the trials. You know, you first have to

973
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 11: prove that the guy actually did the crime, that he's guilty,

974
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Speaker 11: and then there's a second phase where the burden of

975
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 11: proof shifts to the defense and they have to prove

976
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 11: the facts that this guy was insane. They bring in

977
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 11: psychiatric experts and the usual thing. But the jury in

978
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 11: this case, the proof of showing Nick Reiner guilty appears

979
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 11: to be a slam dunk. It's going they're going to

980
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 11: that first phase. The jury's going to say, yeah, he

981
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 11: did it, and then there's going to be the second phase. Well,

982
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 11: he shouldn't be responsible, and there's lots of problems. You know,

983
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 11: he had this alleged argument at Conan O'Brien's house the

984
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Speaker 11: night before. He may have a history of bad blood

985
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 11: in the family, arguing we should sick common in families.

986
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 11: And additionally, it appears from the evidence that Robin Michelle

987
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 11: Reiner were killed while they were sleeping, because it doesn't

988
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 11: seem to be any struggle, at least that's from what

989
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 11: we know. And then the guy had the wherewithal to

990
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 11: leave the scene, to go to a convenience store, to

991
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Speaker 11: go check into a hotel, and it just doesn't you know,

992
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 11: the fact pattern to a jury doesn't speak of a person.

993
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: Who is insane.

994
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Speaker 11: So I think it's going to be a real hard role.

995
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 11: But it's good that it is because the reason why

996
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 11: we have that tradition is because if we made the

997
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 11: insanity plea easy, then basically no one would be in

998
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 11: prison and there'd be no justice and no closure for

999
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 11: families that are victims.

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Speaker 1: You're so right, You're so right. I spent about twenty

1001
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: years I'm retired, thank god, as a criminal defense lawyer,

1002
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: and you make the point in your article that I

1003
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: think it even used one percent of the time, and

1004
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: when it's used, it's almost never successful. Well, I think

1005
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: it was successful in the Reagan assassination case, but in

1006
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: the general public, and you wouldn't expect them to know,

1007
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: but they just don't realize that. Another thing too, mister Herson.

1008
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: You know you've got insanity and then you have competency

1009
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: to stay on trial, two separate things. Do you think

1010
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: competency will be an issue?

1011
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 11: I think they'll make it an issue, but I think

1012
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 11: they're going to be able to establish competency to stand trial.

1013
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 11: But as you know, and I didn't realize you're.

1014
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: A defense floor.

1015
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 11: That's great, you know that this becomes these issues. I mean,

1016
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 11: in California, it'll come up in that second phase, and

1017
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 11: then it also comes up during sentencing to mitigate the sentencing,

1018
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 11: and it's a separate consideration. Then of course, just the

1019
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 11: judge is dealing with it.

1020
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: But it's, as you know, it's.

1021
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: A battle of the experts.

1022
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 11: You know, and in many cases there are very experienced

1023
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 11: expert witnesses who really understand the jury system.

1024
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 8: And when there's a.

1025
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 11: Lot of money, as there obviously is here because Alan

1026
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 11: Jackson is very expensive. They're going to have a top

1027
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 11: psychiatric expert and and so yeah, there, I think Alan Jackson,

1028
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 11: he's already shown by the fact that you know, he

1029
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 11: extended the time for the arrangement, he didn't allow a pola,

1030
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 11: that he's going to make motions. He's he's going to

1031
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 11: have a very vigorous defense and you know, obviously that's

1032
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 11: that's the right of defense and it's really as you

1033
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 11: as a defense layer. No, obviously, the criminal justice system

1034
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 11: has a lot of warts, but it's the best in

1035
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 11: the world. It comes from the British.

1036
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 8: Common law and the idea that we would have.

1037
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 11: A presumption of innocence before we take away a person's

1038
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 11: liberty or we take away, in the case of a death,

1039
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 11: penalty of their life. I mean, this is something that

1040
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 11: we cherish. It is, it's a beautiful thing. And we're

1041
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 11: seeing a guy from a very high profile family who's

1042
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 11: being treated in most part like an ordinary guy, a

1043
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 11: regular defendant. And it's refreshing for us because we've seen

1044
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 11: too many cases where you know, privilege and wealth and

1045
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 11: connections and sometimes political correctness has led to defendants not being.

1046
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 8: Treated the same as ordinary citizens.

1047
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: And so so far, so good.

1048
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: You're right about that, And well you made the point

1049
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: to the defense team. I mean it is strong, Alan Jackson.

1050
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: I mean he represented Harvey Weinstein, Karen Reid, and I

1051
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people know this, Phil Spector.

1052
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: The prosecution team, I think equally as strong, led by

1053
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: A bib Ballly and I hope I'm pronouncing that right.

1054
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: He represented Robert Durst and man, what a what a

1055
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: goofy case that was, and the Menendez brothers so very

1056
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: very good representation on both sides. Let me ask you this,

1057
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: and you know you kind of deal in this world too.

1058
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: Do you think that the judge will permit camera's in

1059
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: the courtroom?

1060
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's it's a real, uh problem. I think.

1061
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Speaker 3: I think it's likely judges.

1062
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 11: Are are leaning that way now, but they have to

1063
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 11: control it, you know. I mean, obviously we saw a

1064
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 11: get out of control going way back in time to

1065
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 11: the OJA case, where it affected the behavior of everyone involved.

1066
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, that case, Andy. But I mean, if I

1067
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 11: I would think for the sake of the family and

1068
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 11: for the sake of the jurors that are likely to

1069
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Speaker 11: be sequestered, it'd be best not to have cameras in

1070
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 11: the courtroom. But this because of the fact that there's

1071
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Speaker 11: this strong news interest from all over the world, the

1072
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Speaker 11: big media outlets will be filing motions with the court

1073
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Speaker 11: and urging, you know, First Amendment protection. So I think

1074
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Speaker 11: it's likely that there's going to be some maybe limited

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Speaker 11: amounts of coverage because this also will be one of those.

1076
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 8: If a trial occurs.

1077
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 11: Because we don't know if there's going to be a plea,

1078
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 11: then I think the public is so interested it'll be

1079
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 11: it won't be quite the Oja case, but it won't

1080
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 11: be something that people want to watch.

1081
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: No question. Last question, I'm kind of coming out of

1082
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: left field on this, mister Herson. But the thing about

1083
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: it is Alan Jackson, he ain't working cheap and Nick

1084
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: Reiner on his own probably doesn't have a penny. Do

1085
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: you know under California law. I thought somebody said that

1086
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: if you are the cause or if you murder someone,

1087
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: you cannot financially benefit from them. Now I have heard

1088
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: that a trust was set up obviously before this by

1089
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: Nick's mother and father. I don't know, but the family,

1090
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: I guess a sister spoke out and seems to be supportive.

1091
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: That's just a big can of worms. I wanted to

1092
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: see what you thought about it.

1093
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 11: Well, on the first point, reportedly, I don't know this

1094
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 11: for a fact. The report they're reporting that Alan Jackson's

1095
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 11: usual fee is near a million dollars. I mean he

1096
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 11: is a he's the top on the West Coast for sure.

1097
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 11: But the topic dealing with high profile which you know,

1098
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 11: high profile case where you have to deal with the

1099
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 11: media gauntlet virtually any time. So January seventh, I'll have

1100
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 11: the arraignment. Alan Jackson is going to have to go

1101
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 11: out there and he's going to be swarmed. That there's

1102
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 11: a certain level of experience and expertise and knowing how

1103
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 11: to deal with these high profile cases and and how

1104
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 11: to instruct their their clients to deal with it and that.

1105
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 11: So the question is that I mentioned some million dollars,

1106
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 11: where's the money coming from? And the press is asking

1107
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 11: that question. Obviously, I would think it's from a family

1108
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 11: member who loves Nick and who is well off or

1109
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 11: maybe more than one.

1110
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 8: And that's where it's coming from.

1111
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 11: As to the idea of the defendant not gaining you know,

1112
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 11: a pecuniary interest somehow in the murder or yeah, there

1113
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 11: is I think there's like the equivalent of a son

1114
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 11: of Sam law in.

1115
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 8: California, and uh, that is going to.

1116
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 11: Be an issue, That's what And it's it's it's very

1117
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 11: sticky because we're talking about both Michelle and Ross. There's

1118
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 11: a there's a trust, there's an estate, uh, and there's

1119
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 11: the usual tug of war and a family. So it's

1120
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 11: going to get very like hairy state planning litigation following

1121
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 11: this case.

1122
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 8: So it's a yeah, it's more.

1123
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 11: It's a more complex case than just first degree murder,

1124
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 11: which already is it's fairly complex.

1125
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 8: So but it seems, you know, and that.

1126
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 11: What we're seeing is a real attempt I mean even

1127
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 11: the fact that this guy was held over he's in prison.

1128
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 8: And he's you know not there doesn't.

1129
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 11: Seem to be any special treatment. And the celebrity thing

1130
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 11: cuts to way. On one side, you know, people sometimes

1131
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 11: get overly tough, overcompensating judges get overly tough, and on

1132
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 11: the other side, juries get starstruck. So so it's really

1133
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 11: the jury selection is going to be as it always is,

1134
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 11: as you know, is going to be crucial and you're

1135
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 11: not going to find jurors who are unfamiliar with Rob Reiner,

1136
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 11: I think, and unfamiliar with the case.

1137
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: It's basically going to be a.

1138
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 11: Thing where during wad dire jury selection, the lawyer who's

1139
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 11: choosing the jury, they're gonna have jury consultants of course

1140
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 11: looking up the backgrounds and everything else. But to you,

1141
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 11: as a trial er, you know this. You're looking in

1142
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 11: the juror's eyes and the jurors making promises that they're

1143
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 11: going to be in marshall and at the end of

1144
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 11: the day, that gut feeling, you know, whether this tour

1145
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 11: is really going to meet their oath is going to decide.

1146
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 11: Probably a good percentage of whether a peremptory challenges is

1147
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 11: whether juror stays.

1148
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: And so but I you know, we're kind of almost

1149
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: out of time, misters, and I'm sorry.

1150
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 11: Juries are a blessing. I the jury system agree. It's

1151
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 11: beautiful thing. It doesn't always work, but it's the best

1152
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 11: thing out there.

1153
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with you more, sir, Thank you so much.

1154
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: This has been very helpful and I hope we can

1155
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: call on you again.

1156
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 3: Well.

1157
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 11: Thank you and thank you for your service as part

1158
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 11: of the criminal justice system.

1159
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, sir. All Right, As a matter

1160
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: of fact, I spent fifty one years in the criminal

1161
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: justice system and one one way, shape or form. And yeah,

1162
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 1: after fifty one years you want to I have good

1163
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: memories and good experiences, but boy, it just wears on

1164
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: you after a while. Anyway, we have to take a break,

1165
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: but when we get back. I'm really looking forward to

1166
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: this True crime detective JT. Townshend has been I guess

1167
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: the number of times on shows here. He is out

1168
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: with another book, a new book, and looking forward to

1169
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 1: talking to it. It's actually a kind of a revision

1170
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 1: or a supplement, I think, to one of his previous books,

1171
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: but new stuff. And he's good no matter what. So

1172
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: make sure you stay around and listen to him. Mike

1173
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Allen in for Sloaney seven hundred WLW News Radio seven

1174
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday Midday. I knew I

1175
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:48,440
Speaker 1: would do that at least once. No, it is not Saturday,

1176
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: and the show is not Saturday Midday. I'm in for

1177
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: Sloaney today and the rest of the week too, and

1178
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: then of course Saturday Saturday Midday. Hey, true Crime detect

1179
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: the JT. Townsend He's written a number of books. I

1180
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 1: like him all he is out with an update of

1181
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: the of a former book. I believe the book was

1182
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: Queen City Notorious, great book in and of itself, and

1183
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: I do have to say this, and I'm not just

1184
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: saying it one of the best books I've ever read

1185
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: true crime. Whatever is his book, Summer's Almost Gone. It's

1186
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: about the brick and murders, but JT also weaves in

1187
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Strangler. You can't put it down, or at

1188
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: least I couldn't, but at any rate, want to talk

1189
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: to JT about the new book. And JT thanks so

1190
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: much for calling in this morning.

1191
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 12: Mike, always a pleasure being on with you.

1192
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: Give us a give us kind of a preview, JT.

1193
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: Because it's not out yet, or is it?

1194
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 12: It is out? Okay, it is out.

1195
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 7: You know.

1196
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 12: I wrote Queen City Gothic was my cold case book

1197
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 12: with thirteen cold cases, you know, Mike. After I wrote that,

1198
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 12: the detectives I worked with, mostly retired guys, said hey,

1199
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 12: can you write a book before we catch the killers?

1200
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 12: Because we look like Keith on Cops. So I dedicated

1201
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 12: Queen Say Notorious to them with a dedication justice maybe blind,

1202
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 12: but she can see in the dark. And the book

1203
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 12: never sold. Really it never got picked up by major

1204
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 12: distributors like Baker, Taylor and Ingram. I had a terrible

1205
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 12: cover on it. The cover just didn't do this book

1206
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 12: any good. And it came out in twenty fourteen, my

1207
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 12: sophomore slump. You know, Gothic and Summer's Almost Gone were

1208
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 12: regional bestsellers. So I put this back out there, got

1209
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 12: a sinister cover, brand new interior layout, and this time

1210
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 12: we get justice.

1211
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

1212
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, It's interesting that you mentioned what

1213
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned before, JT. And kudos to you for at

1214
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 1: least trying that, because you know, I like to read

1215
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: these things, and of course I was involved in it

1216
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: for a fifty one year in one way.

1217
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 8: Or that you were.

1218
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: But somebody writing something good about the cops, I'm all

1219
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: about that.

1220
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 12: But anyway, exactly, Yeah, people tend to like mystery, but hey,

1221
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 12: how about some justice?

1222
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, every once in a while. Now,

1223
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: what's cool about this update, JT? Is I understand it.

1224
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: At least some of the updates you kind of wrap

1225
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: around the Seven Deadly Sins, which I think is really interesting.

1226
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: If you wanted to pick out a couple of them

1227
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: to talk about, I'll let you do it. On your own.

1228
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 12: I've got him. I mean, I think even certainly older

1229
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 12: listeners will remember the name Edith Clump. Oh yeah, how

1230
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 12: can you forget Edith Clump. This was a nineteen fifty

1231
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 12: eight torch slang love triangle where she killed her lover's wife, Mike.

1232
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 12: This would be a lifetime movie today. Yeah, what a

1233
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 12: saga on this. And she had false Hopkins defending her.

1234
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 5: He was the king, Yeah, he was.

1235
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 12: She's sentenced to death in the electric chair, the governor

1236
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 12: at the time to sow. Two days before the execution,

1237
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 12: they give her truth serum and she sweaves a whole

1238
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 12: different story blaming her victim's husband, and desal commutes her

1239
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 12: to life in prison a day before the execution. And

1240
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 12: he lost his race for the governor after that, and

1241
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 12: he was never in politics again. This is just a

1242
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 12: sordid love triangle tale. And Edith Klump, the blonde, the

1243
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 12: spelt blonde temptress. This thing's got everything would want in

1244
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 12: a lifetime movie.

1245
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 7: Yep.

1246
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: And a lot of armor like that, I guess.

1247
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, And that would be the seven deadly sin of envy.

1248
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 12: I've got one. This is back in nineteen thirty seven.

1249
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 12: The sin is gluttony. This guy named Teddy Haun handsome guy,

1250
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 12: good family, married to a beautiful wife and had younger,

1251
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 12: had a young child. But this guy was like Ted Bundy.

1252
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 12: He was taking women out on dates, beating them unmercifully,

1253
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 12: not raping them or anything. And it finally culminated in

1254
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 12: the beating, stomping, and biting death of a young woman

1255
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 12: in that inwood Park dance pavilion on Vine Street. And

1256
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 12: I've seen pictures of what he did to this woman

1257
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 12: and she's unrecognizable. They had a spectacular trial and he

1258
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 12: ended up in the electric chair in nineteen thirty eight.

1259
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: Do you happen to remember who the judge was? JT.

1260
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 12: I'm just killing in thirty eight, I do not, But

1261
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 12: I'm telling you, Mike, if they hadn't caught this guy,

1262
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 12: they got him after his body count was one, they

1263
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 12: hadn't caught him, he'd have been Cincinnati's answer to Ted Bundy.

1264
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh jeez. Let me ask you this question, and let's

1265
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: use this one as an example. You decide, as an

1266
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: author and true crime detective, you want to write a

1267
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: book about Teddy Hines and his murder. What do you

1268
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: do then? Do you try to get the old records,

1269
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: the old files from the investigators, the transcript of the trial,

1270
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: or how do you go about that? JT.

1271
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 12: I tell you, nineteen thirty seven probably would have been

1272
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 12: difficult to get any of those records. I did pull.

1273
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 12: I did pull all the newspaper copies. But I'll tell

1274
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 12: you what you had in nineteen thirty seven, Mike Detective magazines. Yeah,

1275
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 12: and there were over seven different articles about this Teddy

1276
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 12: Hines murder in the in What Park dance pavilion, and

1277
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 12: they really sensationalized everything. He was devastatingly handsome. He denied

1278
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 12: it all the way till they sat him in the chair.

1279
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 12: He denied the whole thing, but he did it. Hard

1280
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 12: to get those records, I think, come back then, I gotcha,

1281
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 12: But we had one agreed. Vintent Perrin shot Francis Rawson

1282
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 12: in her Clifton mansion. She was the third wealthiest woman

1283
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 12: in Cincinnati. She was the widow of Henry Rawson, he

1284
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 12: was the meatpacking king of Porkopolis in nineteen twenty four,

1285
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 12: and he shot her at dinner, actually during the dessert course,

1286
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Speaker 12: in front of the help, and then went on the run.

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Speaker 12: And he was the first Cincinnati man to be found

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Speaker 12: not guilty by reason of insanity. Really, a lot of

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Speaker 12: people think it was George Remis right, but vint and

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Speaker 12: Perrin was actually the first and he never got out

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Speaker 12: of the insane asylum and died. And this was nineteen

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Speaker 12: twenty four. This crime happened. But this would be like

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Speaker 12: the mother or the wife of a retired P and

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Speaker 12: G exec today being shot in her Indian Hill mansion

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Speaker 12: by her son in law. It was scandalous, absolutely scandalous.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you about this one because it

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Speaker 1: kind of piqued my interest a little bit lust Robert, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's new.

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Speaker 12: We're just looking at that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Robert abohead plans for Buxom nurse Wanda Cook in

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four, but something went horribly wrong in his

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Speaker 1: hotel Love nest. Did girlfriend Alice Ewing hold the key

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Speaker 1: to this crime? Tell us about that one?

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Speaker 12: Well, I remember this. I think a lot of people

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01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 12: older listeners might remember Wanda Cook. This was a trunk murder.

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Speaker 12: They've they've got a trunk in Cleveland that's starting to smell,

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Speaker 12: and they open it up and they find this dismembered

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Speaker 12: body of this nurse Wanda Cook in Cleveland, and within

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Speaker 12: twenty four hours they had arrested Robert Abbott his girlfriend

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Speaker 12: Alice Ewing, and they had a spectacular trial for this.

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Speaker 12: Abbot was convicted, Alice Ewing took a deal to testify

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Speaker 12: against him. But the detective work in this was phenomenal.

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 12: They didn't even know who this victim was, much less

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Speaker 12: connecting her to Abbot and Ewing. Within twenty four hours

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Speaker 12: they had them both arrested. It was a three state investigation, Kentucky, Ohio,

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Speaker 12: and Pennsylvania. They nailed them both. This is why I

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Speaker 12: wrote this book and dedicated it to the detectives. You know,

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01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 12: the detective work, you know, dogga detectives and relentless prosecutors

1319
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 12: much like you were, Mike Riveting trials in this book

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Speaker 12: and justice. I mean, we've got at least three electrocutions

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01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 12: in this book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 12: It actually put people to death back then.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, JT. When you started talking about it, I recognized,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. A guy by the

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Speaker 1: name of Dennis Whitehead wrote a book Murder, Murder, and

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: Mayhem and the Queen City pretty darn good, and he

1328
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: does talk about that. But let me ask you about

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01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: that sloth, Let me read it for you. When her

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Speaker 1: adoptive mother tells her to move out in nineteen sixty nine,

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Speaker 1: twenty three year old Barber Shut brutally murders her on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday morning and then leaves for her writing lesson.

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Speaker 1: That's I was.

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Speaker 12: I think I was a sophomore in high school. This

1335
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 12: is in the Clifton gas Light district. Her mother, Jane Shoot,

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Speaker 12: was the most prominent female psychiatrist in the city, and

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Speaker 12: she was attractive, forty two year old married to a

1338
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 12: seventy year old man. She told him that morning she

1339
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Speaker 12: was going to leave him, and they had adopted Barbara,

1340
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 12: and she said, you're going to have to move out.

1341
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 12: You're going to have to be out on your own.

1342
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 12: And she ended up shooting her mother three times that morning,

1343
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 12: beating her to beating her with a fireplace poker actually

1344
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 12: just dislodged her ear, and then went out for her

1345
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 12: writing lesson. And they had a spectacular trial with this one,

1346
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 12: and she claimed she was covering up for her father,

1347
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 12: but in reality she did actually do the murder, and

1348
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 12: a real spectacular trial. Lots of allegations of adultery, lesbianism.

1349
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 12: There was a headline Who's on trial here? The killer

1350
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 12: or the victim? And you know, again this is again

1351
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 12: in a nice neighborhood. And I should mention, Mike, all

1352
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Speaker 12: the killers in this book, these aren't gangsters or miscreans.

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01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 12: These are the killers next door. These are all normal

1354
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 12: everyday people you might have lived next door to that

1355
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 12: ended up committing sensational murders.

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Speaker 1: It makes it makes it interesting, especially, you know, if

1357
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: it's to me my wheelhouse where I recognize some of

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01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: the names. Unfortunately you only have a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm gonna ask to JT. Every

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Speaker 1: time we talk, I ask you about it there and

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01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: let me let me tell my listeners there is no

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Speaker 1: one in this city or elsewhere in the year twenty

1363
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: twenty five who knows more about the brick and murders

1364
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: than this man on the other end of the line. JT.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's all. It's all coming back down to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: you know, Mike, I've got Parabond Labs with CC Moore

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01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 12: standing by to do a new DNA analysis and we

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01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 12: need one. Last time they ran it was a two

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Speaker 12: thousand and two and that was prehistoric.

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Speaker 5: Times for DNA it was just starting.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it was pretty much just starting. I've got Parabond

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01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 12: Labs chomping at the bit for this case. I can't

1373
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 12: seem to get the Coroner's office to work with them.

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Speaker 12: Once Parabon comes on, I would step out of the

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 12: way and they would specifically work with the corner And

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01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 12: I'm not sure what's going on. I've talked with her.

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01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 12: She claims the evidence is is scant and nothing will

1378
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Speaker 12: come up to what they would need for DNA. And

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Speaker 12: I reminded her at the time, they don't need anything

1380
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 12: more than a spec now touch DNA. You can get

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01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 12: DNA out of anything.

1382
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,799
Speaker 1: Well, what would be the items?

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01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 12: They've got the semen, they've got the hair, and they've

1384
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 12: got the cigarette butts, But what would be the iteested

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01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 12: to pay for it?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 12: And I still stand by that offer. I will pay

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01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 12: for this testing. I'm meant a little bit of a roadblock,

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Speaker 12: and we'll see what happens on that.

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Speaker 1: What items would be tested? JT Probably quite a few

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: of my guess clothing and others.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's another thing, Mike that blows my mind about

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 12: this case. There's a picture of mel Ruger in my

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 12: book with thirty boxes of evidence going to the FBI.

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Speaker 12: R So where are they the FBI on it? And

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Speaker 12: there was a piece of tape on Jerry Bricker's face

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Speaker 12: that was from the house.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's brought in veiny tape, right, wasn't it specifically.

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Speaker 12: Where it used to tape a gag over his mouth?

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Speaker 12: And where is that tape? They would get DNA off

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01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 12: that tape. It was a heap fact, it would be

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01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 12: a rich source of DNA.

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01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is, you know, and I

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01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: remember reading about that too and in your book. Uh,

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01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, it was some tape that is

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01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: kind of exclusive to vets. And of course you know,

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01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: we all know who the mainess.

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 12: We've got a prime suspect is a vetinary and it

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 12: was a vetinary tape and it was an inch and

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01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 12: seven eighths wide. That's an exceptionally unusual with for tape.

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01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 12: And they weren't able to trace it. They did find

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01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 12: it was manufactured in Barrington, Illinois, and amazingly enough, our

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01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 12: suspect owned property up there. Hey, there you go on that.

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, want time to shield for my book now, that's exactly.

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01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I saved time for that.

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01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: JT tell people how you can get it.

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01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 12: Well, I've got copies that Snapdragon bookstore on the West Side.

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01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 12: If you haven't been to that bookstore. It's in an

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01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 12: old George Remas mansion. They've got trap doors, secret ladders,

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01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 12: Snapdragon bookstore that I'm gonna check it out. It's brand new.

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01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 12: The house that's in is spooky as heck, and there's

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01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 12: a tunnel, secret ladders, trapdoors. Apparently it was an underling

1423
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 12: of George Remas that has escay patches. I got signed

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01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 12: copies there. I've got signed copies at Joseph Beth if

1425
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 12: you want to get it on my website and all

1426
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 12: copies are signed. I'm offering a five dollars discount at

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01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 12: www dot JT town dot com. All you need to

1428
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 12: put in the discount code is w LW take five

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 12: dollars off all copy signed and real quick.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think people think that these crimes we're seeing

1432
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 12: today are just otherworldly, so bizarre, so strange. Read this

1433
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 12: book and you'll see that these killers back then they

1434
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 12: were just as shocking, just as monstrous, just as bent

1435
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 12: and twisted as the killers we have today. I agree,

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01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 12: nothing has changed.

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01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: I agree. Hey, JT. Hope we can call on you

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01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: again and let me tell people do it. Go out

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01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: and get those books because they're every book that he's

1440
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: put out. It's a good read. Thanks again, JT.

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01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 12: Okay, Mike, always a pleasure.

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01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bye bye. You know I mean that too,

1443
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: And that just so everybody knows. I don't get a

1444
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: cut of anything, but the man is just very good

1445
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: at what he does. And everybody on the West Side,

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01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,440
Speaker 1: I believe, is interested in the brick a case. Summer's

1447
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: almost gone and I think you can still get that

1448
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: one too. Anyway, we have to take a break up.

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: When we get back, we're talking politics, and we're talking

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: politics with the chair of the Ohio Republican Party, former

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: Hamilton County Judge Alex Trant. To feel you. So we'll

1452
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: be talking to Alex about the races coming up in

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01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six when we get back. Mike Allen Saturday

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01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: Midday in for Slowey seven hunderd WLW. Mike Allen in

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01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 1: for Sloaney Today, Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday. Well, there's a

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: lot going on in the political world. All eyes are

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01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: turned to twenty twenty six and the midterms not only

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01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: midterms for Congress, but also every state constitutional office. Here

1459
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: to talk about how we the Republicans look in those

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: races and other things is Ohio GOP chair and former

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01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: Hamilton County judge Alex Trant. To feel you, Alex, Thanks

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01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: for joining us this morning, Mike.

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Speaker 7: Good to be with you. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year,

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01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 7: and glad.

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01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: To be with you you too, buddy. Thank you. Hey, listen,

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01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: the first thing I wanted to ask you about is

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01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: the race for governor. Republican candidate of course is Viviake Ramaswami. Well,

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01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: he just kind of blew everybody out of there, right

1469
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: out of the chute, and he's not going to face

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01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: any primary challenge that I know of. Here's a question

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01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, boy. When he came out,

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01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 1: his poll numbers were great. It looks like now and

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01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I've looked at a couple of them. I got the

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01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: Emerson poll in front of me. They're about even now.

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01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: What is your take on that? Is it something to

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: worry about or not?

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01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 7: Well, it's not something to worry about. Just to make

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01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 7: sure the record's clear. The filing deadline is February the fourth.

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01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 7: There's some clamoring about a primary. But I can tell

1480
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 7: you right now that in Ohio, the Ohio Republican Party

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01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 7: is endorsed to vake every Okay wide elected officials save

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01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 7: one or two of endorsa. He is raising records amounts

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01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 7: of money, Mike, I mean, his his fundraising totals that'll

1484
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 7: be out soon are going to blow the doors off

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 7: of the competition. Which you know, Mike is a as

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01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 7: an operator in this political steer. Money matters, but they

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01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 7: gets filled up rooms around Ohio. He you know, he

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01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 7: goes to these annual dinners of the county Republican organizations

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,640
Speaker 7: and sells them out. He goes to to Miami University.

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01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 7: There's there as students out the door lined up to

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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 7: see thea bake Ramaswamie. I mean almost they almost Charlie

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01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 7: Kirk style kind of exciting for him among young voters.

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01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 7: So you know, look, I mean these polls are going

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01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 7: to be what they are. The internal polls have a

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01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 7: vake up better than what you're seeing. The Emerson pole

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01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 7: always skewed a little bit democratic, but again, straight talk here.

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Speaker 7: This is a mid term cycle. Anyone who pays attention

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01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 7: to politics knows that midterm cycles are generally, you know,

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01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 7: a little harder on the party in power at the

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01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 7: White House. And that's just a natural phenomenon, you know,

1501
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 7: And uh, it tends to be that voters, you know,

1502
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 7: of the part in power sometimes get a little complacent

1503
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 7: and they we're seeing a little bit of that in

1504
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 7: the polling. And it's one of the reasons, you know,

1505
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 7: I never miss a chance, and I'll take it really quick, Mike.

1506
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 7: I promise to tell every single person listening today, if

1507
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 7: you have three hundred and eight days until of a

1508
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 7: midterm election, you must if you're a supporter of President

1509
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 7: Donald Trump, you must make a note to get out

1510
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 7: in because the Democrats, right, Mike, you know this, that

1511
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 7: the Democrats take control, they take the speakership, We're going

1512
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,879
Speaker 7: to see more impeachments. We're going to see steming his agenda.

1513
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 7: We might see a flood on the open border situation.

1514
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 3: Again.

1515
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 7: You know, a lot of bad things are going to happen.

1516
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 7: So we just need all of our great Republican voters

1517
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 7: to show up three hundred eight days in today is

1518
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 7: the election. So look, I mean answer your question. We're

1519
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 7: going to fight this all the way to the end.

1520
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 7: From a vague. He's a different kind of candidate in

1521
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 7: the sense that there's incredible grassroots energy, an amazing amount

1522
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 7: of resources flowing to him, and he's a supremely talented.

1523
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 5: Hard working candidate. So we feel very very good about

1524
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 5: the governors race in Ohio.

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01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 7: Especially by the way, I can't miss taking a shot

1526
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 7: Amy Act. It is the face of COVID. Shut down

1527
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 7: your schools, shut down your businesses. So, you know, we

1528
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 7: like our argument.

1529
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: The theak is one of the best political speakers I

1530
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: have ever seen. I mean, the dude is amazing. You

1531
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: could give him the phone book and he could start

1532
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: reading it and make it interesting. So very impressed with him.

1533
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. Like you just said,

1534
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: you hit on something though, Alex that I think is

1535
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: just so key. You obviously recognize that Donald Trump's voters,

1536
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 1: the mega voters, they have a history of not getting

1537
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:40,759
Speaker 1: out unless Trump's on the ballot. Is RP doing anything

1538
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: to address that or is there anything that you can

1539
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: do other than what you just said?

1540
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, and the answer is yes. It's the number one

1541
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 7: thing we talked about at the Ohiowa Republican Party.

1542
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 5: You know, without getting in all the.

1543
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 7: Details, giving away all our secrets.

1544
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Mike, you know this.

1545
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 7: The data is such now, you know you can do

1546
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 7: between polling and modeling of voters and all the you know,

1547
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 7: all the data that's available, almost too much data on

1548
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 7: every single voter, we can all but predict who those

1549
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 7: people are who we think are going to stay home.

1550
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 7: So we have a plan. We're funding to this plan

1551
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 7: again without giving it all away. This is all we

1552
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 7: really talk about, and that is making sure we have

1553
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 7: a solid list of those voters, and we'll be able

1554
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 7: to go county by county, whether it's Hamilton, Butler, Warren,

1555
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 7: Claremont County, anywhere you know that's listening today, we will

1556
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 7: be able to say in your county, these are the ten, twelve,

1557
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 7: fifteen to five thousand wherever that number is, voters who

1558
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 7: generally vote for President Trump but just kind of sit

1559
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 7: out the mid term. You know, they're not as energized.

1560
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 7: So we're going to know who they are. That's the key,

1561
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 7: and we've got, you know, the next three hundred days

1562
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 7: plus to talk to them and remind them of what

1563
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 7: I've just said, and that is, if you believe in

1564
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 7: President Trump, you believe in his agenda, you believe in

1565
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 7: tax cuts, and you believe in no tax on tips,

1566
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 7: and you believe in a sealed border, if you believe

1567
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 7: in peace, record piece all over, you've got to go

1568
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 7: out and vote in the midterms. So we're going to

1569
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 7: that's what we're doing. We're we're going to target those

1570
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 7: voters very scientifically, very methodically and talk to them, whether

1571
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 7: it's by text, by phone, call, by knocking on their door,

1572
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 7: delivering mail. And then you know, the final thing, Mike,

1573
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 7: is we are going to with every thing. I've got

1574
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 7: asked and plead of this great president to cub to Ohile,

1575
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 7: and I was pleased to see his chief of staff

1576
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 7: Stay in an interview last week. I believe that, you know,

1577
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 7: President Trump is going to get out of campaign hard.

1578
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 5: He always does that.

1579
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 7: So that's that's the intention here is to all of

1580
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 7: you above, get our grassroots voters energized by talking to them,

1581
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 7: Get the president here, get all of our stars here,

1582
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 7: you know, get Vice President Vance here, anything we could

1583
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 7: do to remind people of the importance of turning out

1584
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 7: and voting in the midterms and twenty twenty six.

1585
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what your answer indicates to me

1586
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: that you guys are ready for this because I mean,

1587
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: it's so crucial, as you have just laid out. I'm

1588
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: really glad to hear that, Alex. He just pivoting here

1589
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. The Senate poll Ohio twenty twenty six.

1590
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: It looks like Sharon Brown and John Houston are pretty

1591
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: even at this point. I mean, I guess the same

1592
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: argument or theory applies in that race. If the bag

1593
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: of people get out and vote the party line, which

1594
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: if they get out I think they will, He and

1595
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 1: the other constitutional hawshers are going to be fine. Would

1596
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: you agree?

1597
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 5: Well?

1598
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 7: I do. And you know that Sam Emerson poll that

1599
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 7: you cited actually has John Houstead with a lead on

1600
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 7: Shared Brown. That's not a surprise to us. Sharon Brown

1601
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 7: on a known commodity. Yeah, he is a known commodity

1602
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 7: to Ohio. And I mean that in a negative sense.

1603
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 7: Sharon Brown does not match up with Ohio values. He

1604
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 7: voted as you know with Elizabeth Warren, he voted with AOC.

1605
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 7: This is a far left guy, Sharon Brown. And he

1606
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 7: will he'll come on TV with his fuel code of

1607
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 7: his teams and try to convince Ohioans that he has

1608
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 7: something that he is not what he is Mike is really,

1609
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,959
Speaker 7: he's just he is out of the mainstream of Ohio politics,

1610
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 7: which is why the voters rejected him for a first

1611
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 7: time candidate and Bernie Marino last year. So look, the

1612
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 7: playbook is there for us. Ohioans know what they get

1613
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 7: with Sharon Brown, which is just a rubber stamp for

1614
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 7: the far left agenda. You know that has put this

1615
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 7: country in a tough spot that President Trump is having

1616
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 7: a ballot out of I mean, he was Joe Biden's

1617
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 7: best friend. Here he and Chuck Schumer. We're having dinner

1618
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 7: in Columbus. So you know you can't have Sheriff Brown

1619
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 7: again in this date. He's he is a far left guy,

1620
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 7: out of the mainstream of politics. But John Houstad is

1621
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 7: well known to voters. He's never lost the state wide election.

1622
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,839
Speaker 7: We really like our chances with Senator Tuesday.

1623
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: I do too. And boy, I'll tell you what, we

1624
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: got to take all those constitutional offices. I got to

1625
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,799
Speaker 1: ask you this, and I might have asked you before

1626
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: the first district congressional race. The first district now is

1627
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: a little bit actually seems to me a lot more

1628
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: friendly to Republicans to where we have a solid, solid chance,

1629
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: and I would think probably better than even at this point.

1630
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: But there are I believe three candidates running. Is O

1631
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: ARP or has O rp uh endorsed anyone in that

1632
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: race or will they?

1633
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 7: The answer is, we have not endorsed anyone in that race.

1634
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 7: I don't anticipate an endorsement there. You know again that's uh,

1635
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 7: I'm keeping my options open because I don't ultimately know

1636
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 7: where we go. But I don't see that we have

1637
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 7: the three you mentioned.

1638
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 5: There's two really.

1639
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 7: Solid candidates and a fellow named Eric Conroy. Well, I'm

1640
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 7: sure you might like because he's an elder graduation. There

1641
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 7: you go an nfella named Steve Urpak who's equally he's impressive.

1642
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 5: He's a dentist.

1643
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

1644
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 7: He lives in Warren County, really interesting background. So look,

1645
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 7: we we love all of our our primary contestants the

1646
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 7: same at this moment. And uh, look, I mean there

1647
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 7: are people sometimes who think that there's some smoke filled

1648
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 7: room that maybe I'm in charge of in Columbus deciding

1649
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 7: who gets the run where that's not you know better

1650
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 7: than anybody might that that's just a false And right

1651
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,919
Speaker 7: now we've got a couple of guys running the primary

1652
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 7: primaries could be healthy sometimes. You know, look, Donald Trump

1653
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 7: had to win a Republican primary to be our nominee

1654
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 7: for president, and Bernie Marino had to win a Republican primary.

1655
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 7: So you know, we'll have that, we'll have that process

1656
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 7: play out, and I you know, again, I don't foresee

1657
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 7: an endorsement there, but I will tell you this, and

1658
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 7: I just won't come into surprize. We can do way

1659
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 7: better than the current occupant of that's Greg Landsman. He's

1660
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 7: another guy who's just voting the party line with Democrats

1661
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 7: in Washington. He does not represent the values of Ohio

1662
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 7: and he's been, you know, he's been nothing but an

1663
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 7: obstacle to passing this incredible agenda that President Trump has

1664
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,520
Speaker 7: put forward, like again feeling the border, lowering your taxes,

1665
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 7: you know, cutting regulations to grow businesses, all the great

1666
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 7: things we've seen. So we can do better, and we

1667
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 7: will have a candidate and we will rally around whoever

1668
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,839
Speaker 7: that person is who emerges from the primary.

1669
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about that one, Alex. But just a

1670
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 1: little bit of advice, not that you need it, but

1671
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: when things are kind of even, uh, you always go

1672
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: with the elder guys. So I just want to make

1673
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: sure you knew that.

1674
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 7: Why am I not surprised there's not a no kills

1675
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,480
Speaker 7: guy in the race. So I'm a little conflicted.

1676
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well, hey, let me ask you this question. I've

1677
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: been dying to ask you this mess this what's going

1678
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: on out there in Minnesota. It's just unbelievable. I've never

1679
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: seen anything close to it. I assume you haven't either.

1680
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: Just your thoughts on that. And here's something specific, and

1681
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to ask you this. Okay, you got

1682
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris running for president. She picks him as her

1683
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: running mate. I mean, don't they vet those people? I

1684
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: know they do vet them, But how in the hell

1685
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: did that get by her team? Or maybe it didn't

1686
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: she just didn't care. I'm just curious about that.

1687
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, well, you know, look, she was not

1688
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 7: a competent leader, so something her her vetting team clearly

1689
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 7: missed it on him. Look, there's a lot that's been said.

1690
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 7: I'm not sure I'm going to offer a whole lot

1691
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 7: new on the Tim Walls Minnesota situation other than just

1692
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 7: to say this, this is exactly the kind of swamp

1693
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 7: style politics that elected that got Donald Trump elected in

1694
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 7: the first place. Americans know that this kind of fraud

1695
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 7: and waste and abuse to buy votes is happening. That's

1696
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 7: exactly what happened in Minnesota. The governor there, needing a

1697
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,799
Speaker 7: particular constituency to be with him, was afraid to challenge

1698
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 7: what was happening in this particular immigrant community. You look

1699
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 7: like I love immigrants.

1700
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 3: I am.

1701
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 7: My parents were immigrants from Greece. It's not about race,

1702
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 7: it's not about immigrants. It's about fraud and crime. And

1703
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 7: what happened there is exactly why the American people turned

1704
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 7: to a total outsider in Donald Trump. Tim Walls is

1705
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 7: an old school political guy who knows better than anyone

1706
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 7: Mike had to dole out favors in exchange for votes.

1707
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 7: That disgusting relationship between your tax dollars and buying votes

1708
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,480
Speaker 7: must stop. Donald Trump ran against it, but Bake Ramaswami

1709
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,839
Speaker 7: will run against it. We need these these outsider voices

1710
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 7: who come out and they're a voice for you, the people.

1711
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 7: What's happening there, though, is exactly why Donald Trump has

1712
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 7: been elected president twice, because the American people know that

1713
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 7: kind of garbage goes on and it must stop. And

1714
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 7: last thing, Governor Tim Wallash should resign tomorrow. Oh yeah, press,

1715
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 7: and he's up its game. They need to investigate. They

1716
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 7: need to be covering this in the same way that

1717
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 7: that young twenty three year old YouTuber has investigated it,

1718
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 7: and he needs to resign as a sign of accountability

1719
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 7: in Minnesota.

1720
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 1: It's all about accountability. Hit the nail on the head

1721
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: and we talked about that earlier in the show. I mean,

1722
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: the dude shows up, the podcaster guy, nobody's there. It's

1723
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: called something learning center. They didn't spell learning right, and

1724
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 1: apparently like four million bucks was pumped into that thing.

1725
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: It's it's incredible, you know, And I won't ask you

1726
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: this unless you care to weigh in. I just kind

1727
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: of looking around doing some informal legal research. At some

1728
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 1: point I think the elected officials, to wit, the governor

1729
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: and the Attorney General of Minnesota, they ought to be

1730
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: considered for that on I don't know, some kind of

1731
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: gross negligence thing, but it's just it gets worse every week.

1732
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're following her. Janis Heisel of

1733
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: The Epoch Times is a guest a frequent guest on

1734
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: this show. She is all over at alex to the

1735
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,959
Speaker 1: point where she was recognized by none other than Newt Gingrish.

1736
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: Her reporting a new put a thing in that, Hey,

1737
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, you're doing a great job out there. Keep

1738
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: it up. I guess there's a question in there somewhere.

1739
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: But I guess, as in your prior roles as a

1740
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: prosecutor and judge, do you think there's a possibility that

1741
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: that would happen, assuming I guess this is a big

1742
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,560
Speaker 1: assumption that none of those people are shoving money in

1743
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: their pockets.

1744
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 7: Well, I sure hope that they're fully investigated, and you know,

1745
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 7: like like any other good lawyer, you know, I'm going

1746
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 7: to allow them a presumption here, but at this point

1747
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 7: I'm going to tell you that they better be investigated.

1748
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 7: But the other thing that you said very quickly is

1749
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 7: that at least one outlet, Epoch Times, is covering this

1750
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 7: just just for fun, and it was painful. This morning,

1751
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 7: I tuned into the Today Show at seven AMS. You know, Mike,

1752
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 7: those those morning shows are particularly egregious because they've got

1753
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 7: such a big followership, the cash couts for the networks.

1754
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,799
Speaker 7: So I thought, you know what, I've followed this story

1755
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 7: breaking all weekend. One hundred million views by this young

1756
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 7: man if you know what we're talking about. By the way, yes,

1757
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 7: because you did follow the mainstream news. But there's a

1758
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 7: huge Minnesota fraud scandal. Anyway, I thought the Today Show

1759
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 7: has to at least give it a mention.

1760
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:50,759
Speaker 5: No, Mike, they talked about the weather.

1761
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 7: They talked about that Malaysian plane crash from eleven years ago.

1762
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,799
Speaker 7: You know, they talked about you know, Russian but the

1763
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 7: Ukrainian peace, which is a legitimate way to talk. But

1764
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 7: I will tell you these other things, the weather. How

1765
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 7: many more weather stories are we going to get when

1766
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 7: we have what is the biggest fraud scandal into the billions.

1767
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,759
Speaker 7: I'm a guy that once was on the national presidential ticket.

1768
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 7: They would just never imagine if this was Sarah Palin

1769
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 7: to Alaska and on her watch. I mean again, we're

1770
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 7: going back some years, right, Mike, But imagine a person

1771
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 7: who's been on the national ticket for the Republican Party

1772
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,600
Speaker 7: having this kind of fraud happening in their state. The

1773
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 7: mainstream press would be all over Yeah, and they're not.

1774
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 7: It's just about practice. But you know it's it's it's

1775
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:34,440
Speaker 7: me belly yaked.

1776
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: About the press.

1777
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 5: I could do it every minute of every day.

1778
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 7: I'm thankful that Elon Musk and Twitter exists, and that

1779
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 7: we have some independent people out there shining the light

1780
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,480
Speaker 7: of the public on this horrible fraud and this swapish behavior.

1781
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 5: So that's my fake on that.

1782
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Not only that, thank God for Fox News. Hey, we're

1783
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 1: out of time, Alex. Really appreciate your time this morning

1784
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: and hope we can call on you again.

1785
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 5: Great American, My happy New Year to you.

1786
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. All right, boy, he's charged up, and

1787
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that. Hey, we are out of here.

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Speaker 1: I will be back tomorrow. Mike Allen's seven hundred WLW