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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Our number three is Cincy three sixty here on ESPN

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: I'm Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 3: We've talked a lot of football over the first couple

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Speaker 3: hours of the show. I want to split it up.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit of Bearcat football,

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Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit of baseball, and

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about it with a guy who

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Speaker 3: can now do both. I guess he could always do both.

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Speaker 3: But his name's Jeff Carr from the Locked On Reds podcast,

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Speaker 3: and he joins us. Now, Hi, Jeff, how are you.

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Speaker 4: Austin. I'm doing awesome.

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Speaker 5: We got a chance to be Bowl eligible in October

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Speaker 5: for the Bearcat.

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Speaker 2: This is looking yeah, tell me about this.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I'm scrolling through Twitter and I

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Speaker 3: see Jeff Carr hosting the Locked On Bearcats podcast. How

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Speaker 3: did this happen and what can people expect if they

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Speaker 3: listen and follow along.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's It's been something I've talked about a little

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Speaker 5: year with our college channel manager at Locked On, and

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Speaker 5: I just decided to take advantage of the opportunity definitely

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Speaker 5: talking all things Bearcats athletics. Of course, right now football

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Speaker 5: basketball season with a couple of scrimmages coming up, and

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Speaker 5: we'll talk you know, a little bit of baseball here

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Speaker 5: and there when baseball gets going later on in the year,

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Speaker 5: and it's going to be all about UC athletics, you know,

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Speaker 5: five days a week. I mean, the same deal as

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Speaker 5: Locked On Reds, just you know, talking Bearcats athletics.

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Speaker 2: Now, if I'm not mistaken, you're a Bearcat football season

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Speaker 2: ticket holder and have been for a while? Am I am?

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Speaker 2: I right on that?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, seven, this is my seventh year doing it now,

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Speaker 5: law and he's hadn't even longer going back to the

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Speaker 4: So you know, we've seen it all.

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Speaker 3: You've seen a few things, to say the least with

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Speaker 2: What excites you the most about the Bearcats, It's.

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Speaker 5: Got to be the offense, And honestly, it's at the

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Speaker 5: having watched enough Bengals games and then also going Bearcats wise, like,

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Speaker 5: it's so refreshing to watch a good unit up front

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Speaker 5: really blocking for both the running game and the passing game.

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Speaker 5: Like I mean, Brendan Stores has only been sacked one

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Speaker 5: but that's why I expect them to just absolutely dominate

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited to see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what does that do for the fan base? You

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Speaker 3: How much does that help just the brand of UC

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Speaker 5: it's time for Scott Saderfield to stand up and show

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Speaker 5: us who he is this season, because I get it.

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Speaker 3: My favorite stat I saw is that the Bearcats are

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Speaker 5: It's effective and like the most frustrating way to watch,

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Speaker 5: But we know that at some point you're gonna mess up.

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Speaker 3: You've think for Wes Miller and the basketball team?

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Speaker 5: This year got to be the tournament. Whether it's a

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Speaker 3: Talking to Jeff Carr locked on Bearcats and one half

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Speaker 3: the LCS. What is the biggest what stands out to

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Speaker 4: They have got to bring the power.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's so ironic that that is the

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Speaker 4: They will do that.

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Speaker 5: I would say we probably see him around May, maybe June.

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