1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Shopshop dot Steelers dot com. This one brought to us 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: by eighty four one er dynasty partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Paul Seiss of the Post because 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: at Paul, you heard me just talk about Aaron Rodgers. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Did he just have a bad game at LA this 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: past Sunday or is it maybe worse than that? Because 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: he looked rattled and disheveled from the get go. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Uh well, I would say, Mark that he probably had 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: a bad game, But I and I don't know that 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: I buy You know, it was that skip by I heard, 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: Uh was that skip Bayliff that was talking about him 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: losing his courage and all this other stuff. I don't 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: know i'd buy that, Mark. I say, what I saw 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: was a quarterback who could get really disinterested really fast, 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, things starting to go south. He could start 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: thinking about being on his fishing boat or whatever, and 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, uh, why am I here in this cold 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: weather getting my brains beat in every week? 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: So I think that he had a vision of what 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was and what Tomlin was, and it's very much 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: disappointed him. 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that's part of it. Uh, part 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: of it and I think again, you know, if if 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: he starts to not have fun, I think that he's 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: probably a guy. You know. I mean, let's face it, 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: it took him three months to come to the conclusion 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: he wanted to play in the first place, So you know, 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: that tells me, you know, his heart wasn't in it. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: I believe why everyone is saying about Russell Wilson, but 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: that guy was trying to get a job. He has 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: agent basically putting his name out there for every job. 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: You know, that guy actually really it looked like wanted 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: to play. I mean, Aaron Rodgers. I'm not saying he 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: didn't want to play, but you know, I don't know 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: that he was, you know, one hundred percent really sold 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: on the idea of they all do one more year. 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: So to me, if it goes south a little bit, 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: which you know it could, I could absolutely see a 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: scenario where we see a lot more of what we 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: saw on Sunday, where he just kind of looked this 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: inner as is sort of like, boy, I really wish 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: I was, you know, on the beach or in his 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: you know, tent doing his whatever he does, you know, 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: is you know, meditation and all that stuff, or whatever 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: he does. I mean, to me, I think that's probably 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: the bigger thing to watch, is is he going to 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: be fully all in if this thing starts to get 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: a little bit tough. 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: Have we maybe overrated a little how Rogers has played 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: so far this season? I think I did. I would 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: rate his play to this point, including the LA game, 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: like a C plus. I mean, he's not been bad, 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: but but you know, he doesn't have a three hundred 54 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: yard game yet either. 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: Paul. 56 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: No, And I don't think the other part of it 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: is I don't think that he you know, he is. 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean I would have to look at the chart. 59 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: You don't have to call one of those nerds that 60 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: looks at all that, you know, the twenty two the 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: all twenty two video and charts everything, But I mean, 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: how many plays over twenty yards have they made? Twenty 63 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: five yards? Twenty you know? I mean, I mean, they 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: don't make explosive plays. And that could be a product 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: to him, but also could be a product of the 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: fact that really he's not playing with a whole lot 67 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: of firepower, and the one guy that's supposed to be 68 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: that guy has probably been the most disappointing player on 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: the roster if you ask me, and that would be 70 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. So, you know, I think he's played well 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of his mates and throws, and he's 72 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: willed this team to win some games they probably wouldn't 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: have won with other quarterbacks, you know, But in terms 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: of the explosiveness of the offense, I expected it to 75 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: be more than it is. 76 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: The Steelers host Cincinnati Sunday. Joe Flacco is going to 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: be a quarterback for the Bengals. Why does Flacco have 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: such success against the Steelers and even more so in 79 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: his journeyman phase. He he's only twelve and eleven lifetime, 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: but you know, he came off the bench to beat 81 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: him with Indy, beat him with Cincy earlier this year. 82 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: What's going on there? Paul Well, I. 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: Think part of it is he is you know, I've 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: seen the defense how many times, you know, and unfortunately 85 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: it's been the same defense for fifteen or what nineteen 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: years now. I think we've seen plenty of evidence to 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: suggest that the Steelers have not done a good job 88 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: under Mike Donald of making their defense creative, different, you know, 89 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: or anything else. Every so often, you know, they're throwing 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: a game like they did last week when they surprised 91 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: the Colts with some things, But for the most part, 92 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: it's the same defense. And I think the other part 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: of it is, you know, he's seen so many things 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's pretty good at, you know, checking 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: stuff down at the line. I mean, if you look 96 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: at what he's done this year, it hasn't just been 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: the Steelers that he you know that he got the 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: best of He's played really well. I mean, you know, 99 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: the reality is if you look at what he's done, 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: I'm glad that Joe Burrow is coming back and all 101 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: that stuff, but I'm not sure that Joe Burrow can 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: help them unless he plays defense. So I think you've 103 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: got a really good veteran quarterback that's seen the Steelers 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: defense a million times and knows exactly what to do 105 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: with Yeah. 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: And while people are assuming the Steelers are gonna win Sunday, 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: I don't think it's nearly that simple. While I do 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: know the Bengals defense sucks, I know the Steelers offense 109 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: can stop itself, and if Flat Cup comes out and 110 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: has a night, I don't know whether that Steelers offense 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: can keep up. Paul, what say you? 112 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: I agree? One hundred. You know, as bad as the 113 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: Bengals defense is, which it is, you know, the one 114 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: thing they might be able to do is get some 115 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: stops against the Steelers because the Steelers offense is so 116 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: predictable and so you know, mundane and in some ways archaic. 117 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean, all it takes is the Bengals to get 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: three or four stops, you know, and maybe one or 119 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: two of those is actually a turnover and not a stop. 120 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, I agree with you. I mean, the Steelers 121 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 2: will be said on it for a couple of field 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: goals and you know they you know, they have three 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: or four drives that ended either a punt or an 124 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: interception or whatever. You know what I mean. I could 125 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: absolutely see the Bengals is basically score outscoring them and 126 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: winning the game. And I don't know that Blacko's gonna 127 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: go up and down the field like he did the 128 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: last time. But I don't know why there's all this 129 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: like optimism that the Steelers are just well, you know what, 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: it'll be different this time. I don't know that I 131 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 2: completely buy that either. 132 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: Uh is the bloom finally off Tomlin's rose. The national 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: media is having doubts. The local media is having doubts. 134 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: I think even the local fans are having doubts. 135 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, it's fine. It's 136 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: it's finally, I think to the point where when you've 137 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: got guys like Rich Eisen, you know, who's who spent 138 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: the last three or four years scolding anybody from Pittsburgh 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: that had the idea that maybe it's time to move 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: on from Tomlin, When you got guys like that starting 141 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: to say, you know, this might be you know time, 142 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: it might have run its course, this, you know, all 143 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: that other stuff, that tells me that finally people are 144 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: starting to take a look at Mike Tomlin and his 145 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: actual resume over the last fifteen years. As I've said 146 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: many times, you know, really the first three or four years, 147 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: when he had a team that was already built to 148 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, uh, with a you know, with 149 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: a quarterback coming into his primehood. 150 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Already went and Paul had the culture and the leaders 151 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: just as important. 152 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Right, right, right, If you take those first four or 153 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: five years, but his last fifteen years he's basically been 154 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: Marty Schottenheimer, that's what he is. And his last eight 155 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: years he's in Marvin Lewis. So you know sooner or later. 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean, winning in the playoffs has to matter for something. 157 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: And I think what people, uh, these you know, a 158 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: lot of these national guys and you know been you know, 159 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: complete homers for Tomlin are starting to really really take 160 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: a look at it is the fact that you know, 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: he hasn't won in a long long time. 162 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Well, I get angry. I'm mad that he needs eleven 163 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: more wins to pass Chuck Knowle as the all time 164 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: winning a Steeler because no two were not even remotely 165 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: in the same class. And it kind of irks me 166 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: that people see him as a nailed on Hall of 167 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Famer too, because again, like you said, Paul, if you 168 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: look at his resume, he just isn't. 169 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: No. 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, if you if he was, you know, 171 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: say he takes the you don't know who's the team, 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: it stinks Carra I guess Caroline, the Saints or somebody like. 173 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: That, the Giants. People talk about him going to the Giants, 174 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: maybe even being traded to the Giants, which we know 175 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: has no chance of. 176 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: Happening, right of course. 177 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, let's say he takes over our bad franchise 178 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: and has five or six, you know, probably five like 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: say five years where he you know, he has a 180 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of four and thirteens. And in 181 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: this I mean, if his winning percentage gets lowered, you know, 182 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: to a point where you start to look at it 183 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: and compare it to other people, I mean I would 184 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: I would argue that, you know what, he probably could 185 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: coach his way out of the Hall of Fame. I mean, 186 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: right now, his winning percentage is high up, and he 187 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: does have a super Bowl and you know there's a 188 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: number of things like that and the division titles and 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: all that. But if he had another like say he 190 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: has a year this year, we didn't win a playoff game, 191 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: and then he goes somewhere else and has four or 192 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: five years where he doesn't have any success at all. 193 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you, and you know, it's 194 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: it's funny to me. There are whole bunch of people 195 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: that get all works up when you say something to 196 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: the effect of, well, you know, he did win with 197 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: a team built by somebody else. They lose their minds 198 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,479 Speaker 2: and basically, you know, try and say that you're disrespecting 199 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: Tomlin and blah blah blah. The even bring the racial 200 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: stuff into it. And my answer is always this, Why 201 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: isn't George Seaffert in the Hall of Fame? 202 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Why is it Mike Shanahan in the Hall of Fame? 203 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Well, why isn't George Seffert? Why is it? 204 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: Hey? 205 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: How about Barry Switzer? I mean the bottom place? 206 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: Oh no, I get you Switzer both in hairing and 207 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: championship teams that wasn't seen as their wing. 208 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: But I think, and I honestly think Seffert would be 209 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame if he didn't take the 210 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: job with it with Carolina, because you know, if he 211 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: if he if he just retired, you know when they 212 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: went when his contract was up and they basically said, 213 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: we're moving on on from you in San Francisco. Had 214 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: he retired, I bet you he'd be in the Hall 215 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: of Fame. But he went to where it was at 216 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: Carolina to think for four years, and his teams were 217 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: terrible when he got fired, and you know what, that 218 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: probably is held against them. So I think the similar 219 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: thing could happen with Hamlin. 220 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Paul, I want to get a little quick pit talking, 221 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: because you're a pit guy. Your son played for the Panthers. 222 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: How crazy is it? The Paton Rdoozi said, with college 223 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: game day here with number nine versus number twenty two 224 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, such a tradition. There the fiftieth anniversary of 225 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Tony Dorset going crazy against Notre Dame and establishing pit 226 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: as a power for that era, Nordoozy said, beating Notre 227 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Dame doesn't matter. How crazy is that? 228 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think that he, you know, sometimes 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: says these things that really come back to haunt him 230 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: a little bit, and this one to me, I mean, 231 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's trying to downplay it with 232 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: his players, which I always say coaches are just silly. 233 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: Players know what's at stake, okay, And it doesn't matter 234 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: what us as media guys or we talk about on 235 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: the air, but we write about all week. You know what, 236 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: You can try and downplay games as much as you want, 237 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: but the reality is your players know what's at stake 238 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: and know how big of a game this is. It 239 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. I sent a text to e J. 240 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: Borghetti I said that day when that quote came out, 241 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: I said, EJ, your coach needs you to go come 242 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: save him from himself again. So you know, it was 243 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: one of those things where we were laughing about the 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: idea that you know, sometimes he just says these things 245 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: that are silly. But the reality is, Mark, if they 246 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: win this game, and I think this is something that 247 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: you know is probably not talked about enough, and they 248 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: win their next too, even if the tie breakers don't 249 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: fall their way to get to the ACC championship game, 250 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 2: they could have an outside chance of being in that 251 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: large team at ten and two with three wins against 252 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: ranked opponents against the at the end of the year. 253 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: So like, to me, this is a really big game. 254 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: And and and I think he knows that. I just 255 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: think that he was trying to downplay it for whatever reason. 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: You know, these coaches have all these weird things about 257 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: how all they don't want their players to be tight 258 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: and nervous and all this stuff. Look, your players know 259 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: what's at stake. They're gonna go and they're gonna play, 260 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: and they're either gonna win or lose based on how 261 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: they play. We just stop with this kind of stuff. 262 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: The coaches, you know how they are, they're all in 263 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: the same fraternity when it comes to this kind of paranoia. 264 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Finally, Paul the baseball writer Ken Rosenthal reports that the 265 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: Pirates want to spend in free agency. Sherrington obviously told 266 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: him that because it came out of the GM meetings. 267 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I think it's a plant that 268 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: keeps sucking Pirate fans in to keep them engaged. What 269 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: say you? 270 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I sent an email to the to 271 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: them as well, and I would love to date Holly Berry, 272 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: but I'm not sure. I'm not sure you know what 273 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: that actually means. 274 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: She still looks real good, by the way. I don't 275 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: blame you. 276 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: She's incredible. That's my point. Like, my point is when 277 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: when you know the Pirates are the kings of oh, 278 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna do this, and we'd like to look into 279 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: this or you know, and they leak it out to 280 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: some of the people that I don't know, for whatever reason, uh, 281 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: give them the ability to just basically say these kinds 282 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: of nonsensical things like if you're Ken Rosenthal, you've been 283 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: covering this for how long? You know? Damn well, But 284 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean a thing that this team is not 285 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: going to go out and sign anybody, right, But you know, 286 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: for whatever reason, they just parrot these kinds of talking points, 287 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: and of course, the Pirate hanks in this town and 288 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: then and the goofballs that still believe guess what, They 289 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: jump all over and say, you see they are going 290 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: to do something. 291 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Well, Paul, it's funny you say that because we just 292 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: had the Corsi on and I said that they'll trade 293 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: schemes when he gets a big arbitration award. He said, 294 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: if they do that, that could you turn the fans? 295 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: And I said no, because then they'll just have the 296 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: same investment in Connor Griffin. If you've been screwed by 297 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: the parts for this long, you have Stockholm syndrome, you're 298 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna keep letting it. 299 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: Happen, right, And you're you're exactly right, because if they 300 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: trade schemes, it'll be someone that will be to somebody 301 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: like the Yankees who have a really good farm system 302 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: and the same people that that that put the stuff 303 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: out there all the time on social media basically trying 304 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: to say we're. 305 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: All wrong about the pirates. 306 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, then explain how it was an incredible haul of 307 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: all these prospects and wait, do you see what they 308 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: all turn into? You know that's gonna happen. And then 309 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: so to me, I think what's funny, though, Mark is 310 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: I don't think people fully understand this. But if let's 311 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: say Paul Schemes goes out and wins the cy Young 312 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: next year, right, okay, next year, he's still playing for 313 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: the nine hundred and eighty thousand or whatever. But if 314 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: he's going into arbitration on back to back cy youngs, 315 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: what is that are gonna be? 316 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Like, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be, it might it 317 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: might be fifty million, No kidding. 318 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Right now, zero chancel parts are gonna pay that. So 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: to me, you know, I've said to people, it won't 320 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: shock me if at the next trade deadline, you know 321 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: what they trade him. 322 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Paul has always great stuff. 323 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: We'll talk next week, all right, man, thanks, we'll see it. 324 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: That's Paul's ice in the PG brought to us by 325 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: eighty four Longber. We got Tyler Kennedy at the bottom 326 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: of the hour one oh five nine. It's a woody show. 327 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: Way better than NPR Weekend Mornings at six on the X. 328 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: From the one oh five nine, The X Traffic Sense 329 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: The X at one oh five nine. 330 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: Double him on the X. Steelers injury update, Roderick Jones 331 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: did not practice today because he has a groin injury. 332 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: You people wouldn't understand that because you don't have groins. 333 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to get a hold of Brett Hart and 334 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: tell him I still use that line that was a 335 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Brett Hart line during a promo. I'd love to get 336 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: a hold of Brett, Tom producer, get a hold of Brett. 337 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: See if Eve remembers who I am. I think he 338 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: liked me, but you never know from back then. I'm 339 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a new podcast because we need more of those. 340 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: The Kitchuck Brothers are gonna do a hockey podcast. Don't 341 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: have plenty of time because they're always hurt. It's another 342 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: meathead podcast, gonna be just like the Kelsey Brothers podcast, 343 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: except on skates. I hear that SoundBite that I was 344 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: just talking about with Paul Zeis. It's Ken Rosental, the 345 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: baseball writer, about how the Poates are gonna look to 346 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: spend more. Let's hear that yesterday. 347 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 5: I'm talking to some people here just the first day 348 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: of the GM meetings. I heard that the Morlands and 349 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: Pirates are telling agents, Hey, we'd like to be aggressive. 350 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: We'd like to spend a little bit now. 351 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: That can be in free agency, or it can be 352 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: in the matter of taking on salaries in trades. So 353 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: I don't know the exact answered your question, Richard, but 354 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 5: I do expect that we're going to see some of 355 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: this kind of activity, and not just from the big 356 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 5: spending teams that have tons of prospects. You may see 357 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: it from some other clubs as well. 358 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: That's all just a lie. Sherington told him that Rosenthal 359 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: passed it on. Sherrington is a liab beteck. He's suffering 360 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: from liabetes. It's absolute horseman or. The Pirates get that 361 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: stuff out there every year to keep the citizens engaged, 362 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: and then the season starts and the payroll still sucks, 363 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: as does the team. But nothing doesn't need to convince 364 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: the citizens. He needs to convince Paul Skins, because, according 365 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: to NJ dot com that website, which is actually relatively credible, 366 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Skins is telling teammates he has no confidence in the 367 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: Pirates organization that it can't win and wants to play 368 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: for the New York Yankees. You'd have to be a 369 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: fool to believe the Pirates will spend more till you 370 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: see it, And what good player would want to come 371 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh anyway. You got Tommy Famm last year because 372 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: nobody wanted him, nobody wanted him. I bet he goes 373 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: elsewhere this year after Goodyear with the Pirates, Skeen's gonna 374 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: get the cy Young tonight. He's gonna be out of 375 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: here sooner than you think. Sei's just part of a 376 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: good point. What if Skeens wins the cy Young again 377 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: next year and his first arbitration year is on the 378 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: back of winning the cy Young Awards two years in 379 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: a row. He could get a fifty freaking million dollar award. Yeah, 380 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: not that he's gonna pay that. Oh and how I'll 381 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: laugh haha, I laugh at you, not with you. Okay, 382 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Up next, gonna talk uh some hockey with Tyler Kennedy. 383 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: But right now I want to talk bet Parks. There's 384 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: always another way to win on the Bet Parks online 385 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: casino and sportsbook app. It is total NonStop action. 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This report is 413 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: sponsored by Levin Furniture and Mattress. 414 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 7: Partly cloudy skies overnight tonight with low temperatures in the 415 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 7: mid thirties, sunshine at a high round fifty on Thursday. 416 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 7: Tomorrow night clearing and cold with a lone near thirty 417 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 7: black Friday. 418 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: And now the super genius Mark mad how you doing good? 419 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: Mace is always a component of any nice day. Thank 420 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: you for making my day? Yeah what you said? The 421 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: X at one O five nine Penguins are in Sweden 422 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: for two games against Nashville. Joining me now is a 423 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: man who was a hero the last time the Penguin 424 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: went to Sweden, the Stanley Cup CHAMPIONI own nine. He 425 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: is Tyler Kenn TK. You guys started off that season, 426 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup winning season of eighth nine, going to 427 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: Sweden and playing Ottawa. And it says here that you 428 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: scored two goals in a game, were named the first Star, 429 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: and scored an overtime. Tell us the details there. You 430 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: seem surprised, Mark, No, no, no, pleasantly pleasantly so if 431 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: at all? 432 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it was. 433 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: It was just a lot of excitement. Obviously the first 434 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: game of the year, and I was still in my mind, 435 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: still trying to make the team. So when I scored 436 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: the first goal and then they got put out in 437 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: the overtime, again, I was a ball of energy and 438 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: I just had a good opportunity. I came down the 439 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: wing and I ended up shooting through the defenseman and 440 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: snuck in and it kind of started. It kicked off 441 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: a really good year for me. 442 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: That confidence that I got. 443 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: Early in the season from those two goals and being 444 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: over there, being even more part of the team really 445 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 3: helped me really establish that I was an NHL player. 446 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you were a young guy and you 447 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: consider yourself to be on the fringe, getting a big 448 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: goal like that early that that kind of means a 449 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: lot to the team and kind of get you some gravitas, 450 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 451 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: And you know, when I see Ben Kindle and he's 452 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: starting to score, and you can see the confidence growing 453 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 3: and I and I watch them and I can see 454 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: and I can feel how it feels to score early 455 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: in your career, early in the season, because it's such 456 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 3: a confidence game when you're younger, because you're coming in, 457 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: you're young, you're full of energy, but there's so many 458 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: in your mind. There's so many questions because you go 459 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: from playing with teenagers to playing with adults, and you're like, 460 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 3: am I good enough to play in this league? And 461 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: once you get one or two goals, you're like, no, No, 462 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: I can play in this league. I can play against anyway. 463 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: You kind of almost get like cocky, which you need 464 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: to be because it's really hard to stay in the 465 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: league and you need that to be confident. You know, 466 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: you need to have that confidence. So starting off early 467 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: and being a fringe guy, the more points you get 468 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 3: in early in the season really kind of propels you 469 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: throughout the rest of the year. Because I as a 470 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: player that was a third and fourth line guy, I 471 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: always felt going into the year that pressure to get 472 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: that first goal under my belt, and the longer it lasted, honestly, 473 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: the more I squeezed my sick and when I scored 474 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: those two goals, it was almost like a whole new 475 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: TK coming back to the US and that helps you 476 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: so much. Again, I can't emphasize how much pressure it 477 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: is for a player, as a fringe player or a 478 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: third and fourth line guy to get that first one 479 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: out of the way, because that's what you're looking for. 480 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: You're looking for that little bit of confidence to get 481 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: you going. 482 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: Now, what else do you remember from that trip to Sweden? Specifically? 483 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: Did you go to the Abba Museum? 484 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: You know what mark. I'm gonna be honest, I don't 485 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: remember that much. I just remember, you know, we had 486 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: that scavenger hunt that was just so much fun. And 487 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: you know the guys all being around. 488 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: Now landmarks, what was that about? 489 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: Well, they had a bunch of different like landmarks throughout 490 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: the whole city. So it made you go explore Sweden. 491 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: It made you get out of your room, get to 492 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: know your teammates outside drink. And that's why I think 493 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: it's good for the Penguins because it gets them. It 494 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: gets the new guys very familiar with the older guys 495 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: because when you're in Pittsburgh and you're younger or you're 496 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: new to the team, a lot of these guys have 497 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: been around for a long time and it's hard to 498 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: get time with them, right because some guys they leave 499 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: the rink and they go see their family or they 500 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: have other obligations when they're away. And when you're in 501 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: Sweden that you're with the team, the whole time. So 502 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: when you do stuff like that, you just get so 503 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: close as a team. And when you look at that team, 504 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: we had some real characters on that team, Like we 505 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: had some guys that were a lot like we had 506 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: Paul Vissanette, we had Talbot, we had some. 507 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: Guys turned Cookie Loose and Swede my god, exactly. 508 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: And that's another thing I remember, Like, I think we 509 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: are there for over a week. I think we went 510 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: out five of the seven nights. It was insane. It 511 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: wasn't like we were partying like crazy, but every guy 512 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: would go for dinner. 513 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: It's a bond. It's gonna be awesome, It's got I 514 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: mean that. That's what a great start to a great 515 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: season in so many levels. 516 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that, and I think it's it's good. You 517 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: know again, when you do that, it's so good for 518 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: the guys like you know, the Brunicks, the guys like 519 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: that that need to feel welcomed into the team. Again, 520 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 3: there's still only a month into being on it NHL team. 521 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: They still need that literary reist assurance being around the guys. 522 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: And you know, I would be I would imagine there's 523 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: a lot of pranks going on within the team. There's 524 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 3: a lot of team bonding. I know they did, like 525 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: a sauna and stuff like that. That's what you need 526 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: because all the teams that I ever won with were 527 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: the closest and they had, you know, the characters that 528 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: would bring different characteristics to a team. I was on 529 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: one of the Penns podcasts today and they're like, well, 530 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: tell me about like Dupu and Tealbot, and I'm like, 531 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: it was unique guys that are different and from different 532 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 3: places to make it fun to go to the rink. 533 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: Because when you go to the rink and you have 534 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: Pascal Dupu have it. He used to do this dance Mark. 535 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: Everyone would sit around the dress room and Pascal would 536 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: turn on music and turn the lights down and he 537 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: would do this dance in his jock and it was 538 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 3: it was one of the things that everyone Mark. Everyone 539 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: was crying, laughing. And then you'd have Marc Andre Flurry 540 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: like sewing your pants together. But those kind of guys, 541 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: when you're around them a lot, they're like your brothers. 542 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: And even you know, when I broke in, me and 543 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: l Tang were rookies and those guys used to do 544 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: so many you know, pranks against us. But I loved 545 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: it because it made me feel like I was like 546 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: their younger brother, and that's what made you know, that 547 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: team special. And I think it's such a great thing 548 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: for the young guys and the old guys to go 549 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: on these little, you know, series, because it makes you 550 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: close to the team and you just spend more time 551 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: and it's like that bonding that sometimes it gets two 552 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: routine ish, going to the same places every time and 553 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: sitting with the same guys. You know, when you go 554 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: to Philadelphia, guys go to the same restaurants, you go 555 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: to New York. You know, it gets really routine ish 556 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: when you go there. No one knows anything, so everyone 557 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: has to come together and figure out what to do. 558 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's a lot of fun. 559 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to Tyler Kennedy here on the X. You 560 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: can see him on Sport and at Pittsburgh on Penguin 561 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: Game Nights TK. When you played for the Penguin, the 562 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: coach Dan Bosman, he was really big on practicing the shootout, 563 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: wasn't he. 564 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. 565 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: He was real big, And you know, I think we 566 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: probably did it after every second practice, and I felt 567 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: like that extra point in the shootout meant, I think 568 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: there was a lot more attention to that shootout. That's 569 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: when they really actually started to really look at players, 570 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: to really take it a lot more serious. In that 571 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: shoot It used to be like, you know, just sending 572 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: your best two players. Then in my air with Dan, 573 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: he was like, no, no, we need guys that are 574 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: real that we know have a really good chance. And 575 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: they used to start in practice, you know, we'd have 576 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: guys doing their move and the more you practice, just 577 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: like everything, you just get better at it. And the 578 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: one thing I'm surprised Dan used to send chrys Latang, 579 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: And I think it's really good to send a young 580 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: player because a lot of these guys, a lot of 581 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: these goalies they've seen sid, they've seen Milkin, they've seen Latang, 582 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: they've seen some of these guys. When you look up 583 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: the ice and you have a guy that you've never 584 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: even seen the league, you have no idea any of 585 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: his tendencies, Like if you have Ben Kindall coming down, 586 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: you would have no idea what his thought process exactly. 587 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: And I do think that throws some goalies off. Again, 588 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: when you think of chrys Latang, he used to do 589 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: so many shootouts at the very beginning, and he was 590 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: so good at him because no goalie had to read 591 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: on him, right, no goalie knew who this guy was, 592 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: why he was a defense and taking a shootout he 593 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: was so successful. So I'll be interesting to see when 594 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: they get the next shootout if they changed the lineup 595 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: of who's shooting. 596 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: Well because practicing, which they had not been I mean, 597 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: Sullivan never practiced it at all, and News didn't n 598 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: till this week. 599 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like, honestly, like when you think of how 600 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: we've not made the playoffs out of the you know, 601 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: the two three points, like if we would have won 602 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: some of those games in a shootout, like that would 603 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 3: have put us into the playoffs, you know. And I 604 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: think they're finally especially with News. I think he's adapting 605 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: really quick right now. And I think it does show 606 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 3: he's a good coach because, like you said, Mike Sullivan, 607 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: he was here for how long. They never practice and 608 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: it's like, dude, we had Like I feel like Philadelphia 609 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: Flyers picked up Trevor ziegris purely pretty close to just 610 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: on a shootouts performance because. 611 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: It's a big factor, a big factor. 612 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: Huge factor, and you can see if people are like 613 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: taking this a lot more because it means a lot 614 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: And again, I just feel that the Penguins understand and 615 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: there they're adapting to what they need. And when you 616 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: see Dan News within the first twenty games already okay, 617 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: we need to be better at the shootouts and starting 618 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: to practice, I'm like, Wow, this guy he's adapting and 619 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: he's he's making things work, like he's working on the 620 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: craft of making this team get those extra points in natchet. 621 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: And observing TK who can do it and who can't, 622 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: which you know, other than that, like you said, a 623 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: lot of teams just send their best players. But what 624 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm worried about is the goal tench because Shiloffs has 625 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: allowed seven goals in eight shootout attempts Jari historically he's 626 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: not been better. How can you make the goalies improve? 627 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: I guess practice helps. And if Shiloffs continues to struggle 628 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: at this level and practice, would you sub in the 629 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: other goalie if he gets to a shootout again? I 630 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: know nobody does that, but you need those points. 631 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: Well. I think the NHL is getting so advanced right, 632 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: and I think what you're gonna start seeing is before 633 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: every game there's a sheet and it's got a rundown 634 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: of every player with their tendency. You know, we can 635 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: pick anyone. Say let's just go with Trevor Zegers. We're 636 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: just talking about high end skill. Make him play like 637 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: this is what it would stay on this piece of paper. 638 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: Trevor Zegers, elite playmaker, great shootout guy, you know. Make 639 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: him play well in his own end and you'll be successful. 640 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: But what I think now is going to happen is 641 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: I think the coaching staffs are going to start being like, hey, 642 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: these are they're four shooters in the shootout. These are 643 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: his three moves. So I think the goalies are more 644 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: prepared on the tendencies of the guys coming at them right, like, 645 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: you know, when they have that little bit of break 646 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: where everyone comes into the bench. I think you're going 647 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: to have someone telling the goalie or even before going, 648 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: hey we play Philly Ziegers comes in real wide, comes 649 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: in slow, tries to go five. 650 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Hole, don't they dk? 651 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 652 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: But I've never seen them ever watch just shootout. 653 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: They've watched good Point, they watched. 654 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: The power play, penalty kill, all that stuff. I don't 655 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: think they've ever sat down and be like, Okay, if 656 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: we get in the shootout situation, especially with the teams 657 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: we play a lot right right, like Philadelphia and New 658 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: York Long Island, you should know their three guys in 659 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: the shootout in what their tendencies are. 660 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: Now you and by the way, shootout stats is it's 661 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: like the dark web TK. It's tough to find. But 662 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: but I have you done as zero for three in 663 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: the shootout? Is that correct? 664 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 665 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 3: I get I was really honestly, I was really good 666 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: at the HL and that those moves didn't work in 667 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: the NHL. 668 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not trying to ridicule, but what makes a 669 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: good shooter in the shootout? 670 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 3: Well, I think one confidence. I think you know, you 671 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: don't realize when you play in a game, you realize 672 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: there's eyes on everyone, But when the games on the 673 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: line and you go and you pick up that puck, 674 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 3: you got to have a calmness, a belief in your skill. 675 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: And sometimes I feel like that pressure got to me 676 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: and my moves. 677 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: Wouldn't be rock solid. 678 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: When you see guys that come in they have a 679 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 3: lot of moves in their bag, like say, they have 680 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: four good moves depending on where the goalie is in 681 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: the net, and they don't think about it, it comes 682 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: like second nature right when you think of guys like 683 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 3: one of the best was Eric Christensen. His hands were 684 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: so good, but he did never really have to look 685 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 3: at the puck. He already knew. 686 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: It was like a breakaway. He took it like a breakaway. 687 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: It was real smooth, exactly, but his eyes were on 688 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: the goalie, seeing where he was in that and how 689 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: he moved back or where he was. Because now what 690 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 3: you're seeing is, you know, the really good guys in 691 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: the NHL, what they're doing now is either they're going really. 692 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Wide and going lateral, or. 693 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 3: They're slowing down and trying to get the goalie out 694 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 3: of position by going really fast. 695 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: It's unnatural. Like you said, crusher, he just took it 696 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: like a breakaway. And it's funny too because he had 697 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: a variety of moves TK. But but you know how 698 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: many times did he just open up the guy under 699 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: the blocker with that forehand, I mean just a little 700 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: dip of the shoulder and bang, and like you said, 701 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: so natural. 702 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again it some guys have like I obviously 703 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 3: teach hockey, and some guys just have that ability to 704 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: score goals and find the holes and do those little hitches. 705 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, like roller hockey, guys that play 706 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: roller hockey and then they come to ice, their their 707 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: movements and their little wageiss and how they dangle is 708 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: like unbelievable because they have no choice, you know. And 709 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: when you see guys that go in right like I 710 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: when I teach, I'm like, this kid's a roller hockey 711 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: or a deck hockey. His hands are unbelievable, right, Like 712 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: he he's got that in tight space. Space is hands right. 713 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 3: But when you see Eric Christensen, he'd come in and 714 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: again he he already knew what he was going to 715 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 3: do off the goalie. And now I feel like it's 716 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: everything's such a such a science, and there's so many 717 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: guys getting these private like, yeah, they think too much, 718 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: but I do think that's the way the game's going. 719 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 3: Like it's you know, everyone's trying. It's so competitive that 720 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: if anyone could get an edge on someone, they're gonna 721 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 3: do it. You know. That's why all these guys have 722 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: their own skill. 723 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: Guy. 724 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: But you know, when you do change speeds and you 725 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: do go lateral, you're trying to throw the goalie off 726 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: his angles. And sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't you know. 727 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 3: But that's that's what I'm seeing now. And it's like 728 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: you can tell those top guys have such a plan 729 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: and have a thought process way before they pick up 730 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: that puck. 731 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: TK, great stuff, Thank you for taking the time. Hey, 732 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: if it would have been up to me, I would 733 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: have let you take a lot more shootouts. 734 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, either either barred down mark or I'm missing the net. 735 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: But it's gonna look hard. 736 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 2: You know again. 737 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 3: You know what though, like it was one of those 738 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 3: things that when I broke into the AHL, a guy said, TK, 739 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: you're gonna get an opportunity to shoot out. You're you're 740 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 3: I was like a third round pick, but you're gonna 741 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: get opportunity. He just said, TK, you gotta have a 742 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 3: move that you know how to do with speed or 743 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: without speed that you never that you knew how to 744 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 3: sell it right. You just need to be really good 745 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: at one. And I was good at one. But if 746 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: the goalie didn't bite on that first move, I was 747 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: I was in trouble. And sometimes he didn't, so again it. 748 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: Was it's nerve wracking. 749 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: I I still remember, you know, you pick up the 750 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 3: pocket eat my heart rate was like one thirty, you know, 751 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: like it was up there. I don't think everyone was 752 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: up there, but I don't think that was part It 753 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 3: was part of my game, but it wasn't so I 754 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 3: still it was still fun to be picked. 755 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: I feel like it could have gone better given more chances. 756 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: That's TK. I'm doublem try to ask. It's not time 757 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: to ask Mark anything eight three three four one two 758 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: w xdx. That's eight three three four one two w 759 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: xd x. 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With the betting scandals hitting basketball and baseball, 778 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: do you think that football and hockey or possibly next. 779 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: I think those games are tougher to fix visa v 780 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: prop bets, don't you? I mean, what prop a football 781 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: player or a hockey player that's easily done? 782 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 3: I don't know, bumbles, maybe I don't know something. 783 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: No, no, but but don't forget like like Will Bond said, 784 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: the Cleveland pitchers, for example, throwing a ball in the 785 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: first pitch that doesn't affect the game's outcome. The basketball player, 786 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: the sub guy begging off injured to hit the under 787 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: minutes played prop that doesn't affect who wins the game. 788 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: So while it's not harmless, I see Will Bun's point 789 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: about being why should I care if those guys get punished? 790 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: I get it it's against league policy, but it doesn't 791 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: bother me as a sportsman, because again, the outcome was 792 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: not affected. 793 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 2: Correct. 794 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, can you think of even one bet in 795 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: hockey or football that would be easily reached by one player? 796 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: To be honest, though, I can't, but. 797 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean the goalies could leak in enough to hit 798 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: the over, but I mean that would affect the outcome. 799 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: I think like in Ortiz, the pitcher for Cleveland. I 800 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: think him throwing a ball on the first pitch to 801 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: win five grand or whatever it was. Maybe it was 802 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: the other pitcher that did that to win that. But 803 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: it's no real harm done. You're not throwing the game. 804 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: You're not really even double crossing your teammates. Let's go 805 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 1: to a talkback. 806 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 8: Hey Newman, here, the other day you played the clip 807 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 8: of Rex Ryan using the expression feet for hands to 808 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 8: describe Steeler receivers. I was curious whether you think he 809 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 8: considers that to be a compliment given his sexual proclivities. 810 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: Well, he's a foot fetish guy, and I would think 811 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: that feet for hands is a way of life for 812 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. Good stuff, Newman. Let's go to a talkback. 813 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 8: Double m Why don't fans understand no player in their 814 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 8: prime is trying to play for coach T. 815 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if that's true, but I think 816 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm like Tomlin, maybe for the wrong reasons, maybe because 817 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: he's a player's coach to a distracting to a negative 818 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: degree rather but like a Santi Samuel Jr. Who's like, 819 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: you know, who knows if he can play or not 820 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: the after the spinal fusion, and you know who knows 821 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: what world he's gonna step into. I don't care why 822 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: he came to Pittsburgh because I don't think he's gonna help. 823 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: He might, I'd risk it. I'd start him this week. 824 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: I would barely having been on a team, but I 825 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: would to see if he can help with Jamar Chase. 826 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: I would. But I wish if guys want to come 827 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: to play in Pittsburgh because of my Tomlin, I wish 828 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: that he would attract better players. But as far as 829 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: Samuel goes, he came to Pittsburgh not because of Tomlin, 830 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: no matter what anybody says. He came to Pittsburgh because 831 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: their defensive backfield stinks and he feels like he can 832 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: get on the field right away. Aaron Rodgers came to 833 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh not because of Tomlin, but because nobody else really 834 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: wanted him. Let's go to Ryan, Ryan, you're all with 835 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: double M. 836 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, have you seen a new show with Ray 837 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 3: Seahorn at Floribus. 838 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: No, it's a good. 839 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 3: That's not bad. 840 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 2: What's It's some sort of. 841 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 3: Weird u Tokyo with like I'm a zombies, but they're 842 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: not zombies. They are still like alive. 843 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: It's okay, weird utopia kind of zombies. Nope, not interested, 844 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: Let's go to a talk back. 845 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: Mark. Does a city O coach get an apology if 846 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: he's able to rebound and get the Steelers to a 847 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 3: playoff win? 848 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: If he wins a playoff game, I ain't gonna apologize 849 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: because that's what he's supposed to do and we've waited 850 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: long enough for it. But well, he ain't gonna so 851 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: it don't matter.