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Speaker 1: But Judge NAP's next Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC

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Speaker 3: Eight thirty two. If you have krcity Talk station. Well

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Speaker 3: at least it wasn't goofy or wacky. That was a

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Speaker 3: rather straightforward introduction. Welcome back to the fifty five KRC

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Speaker 3: Morning Show, my friend Judge Ennena Politano.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes it was, and I think if I have

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Speaker 4: this correct, A thirty eight year old Italian from New

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Speaker 4: Jersey will soon become the hero of the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 4: So I.

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Speaker 2: Have that right.

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Speaker 3: You may maybe collectively we've written off the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 3: your honor. It's like, you want to be optimistic, but

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Speaker 3: they give us no reason whatsoever to be optimistic. So

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Speaker 3: maybe there is an element in there that's optimism.

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Speaker 4: I feel sorry for Joe Burrow. He's such a talented kid,

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Speaker 4: but he just keeps getting hurt. I run over and

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Speaker 3: Well, that came up in conversation early in the program,

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Speaker 3: and I think we're blaming management, coaching staff, the owners

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Speaker 3: things play out over the long term. All right, And

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Speaker 3: I love your column. I don't know if you heard

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Speaker 3: me ask Congress from Massey about the Office of Legal

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Speaker 3: to the American military when we face what he believes

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Speaker 3: to be an eminent threat. Congress Amassy just basically said

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Speaker 3: that that office is really designed to uphold literally anything

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Speaker 3: ask you about what I thought was really I don't

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Speaker 3: know Orwellian the fact that that Donald or rather all

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Speaker 3: the FBI in connection with the January sixth riots, they

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this kind of they have.

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Speaker 4: They have nobody to blame but themselves, right because the statute,

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Speaker 4: the Electronic Privacy so called Electronic Privacy Act, you know,

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Speaker 4: to get metadata. So it's who you called, when you called,

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Speaker 4: I've been condemning this as a violation of the Fourth

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Speaker 4: to them. That doesn't make it moral, and it doesn't

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Speaker 4: to make it even worse, Brian, this does not require

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Speaker 4: a National Security letter Patride Act? That's where one FBI

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Speaker 4: on stored records at your lawyer's office, your doctor's office,

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Speaker 4: this legislation was enacted, but almost everybody else on that

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Speaker 4: Right nobody's ox should be gord. They should follow the

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Speaker 4: I believe it or not, what left wing pinko creep

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Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty six. So this stuff goes way back. It was,

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Speaker 4: of course accelerated after nine to eleven. After nine to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about it. Go about the normal course

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Speaker 2: We can hash that out.

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Speaker 4: Right right, it's it's very, very dangerous. I got a

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Speaker 3: with reckless abandon Judge Jenna Politano, logic, reason is always

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Speaker 4: Right Brian, It's my favorite morning and I love being

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Speaker 3: It is a strain for you to get those words

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Speaker 4: You're on at eleven this morning Eastern. I have the

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Speaker 4: great Colonel Douvas McGregor. Colonel McGregor and I spent a

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Speaker 4: to describe American, not Israeli, American preparations for that war.

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Speaker 4: Does Iran pose a threat to the national security of

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Speaker 2: Not one bit?

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Speaker 4: What we're getting ready.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fascinating conversation, if not trouble and

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Speaker 3: judging and to paulatonom until next Wednesday. God bless you sir.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Brian all the best.

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