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Speaker 1: Now, News Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday Morning Sports

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Speaker 1: Talk with your host Ken Brew on News Radio seven

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Speaker 2: Well, here on this Sunday, let's do the Matthew. The

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Speaker 2: first football is Sunday in the NFL for us at

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Speaker 2: least until September. Well, come on in Sunday Morning Sports Talk.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you with us. They've been some

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Speaker 2: terrific playoff games so far. If you witnessed any of

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Speaker 2: those yesterday, you know that. And then we've got a

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Speaker 2: bunch more to come. And we're kind of in the

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Speaker 2: middle here, right between the start of spring training and

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Speaker 2: the middle of basketball season. So there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: get to today. And of course this week Duke Tobin

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Speaker 2: spoke to the local media. There were more unanswered questions

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Speaker 2: than questions. In fact, there were a few more questions.

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Speaker 2: And when that whole thing began, I had a laugh

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Speaker 2: just seeing some of the things on Twitter about what

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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin was going to say on Friday. If you've

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Speaker 2: been around on this franchise as long as I have,

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Speaker 2: you know that you don't expect much when you go

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Speaker 2: into those kinds of things. There were some nuggets of information,

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Speaker 2: but by and large, it does not sound like the

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Speaker 2: Bengals are going to be changing the way they go

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Speaker 2: about business anytime any soon. And it sounds like what

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Speaker 2: they're really banking on are the players that they have

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Speaker 2: playing better, and the coaches that they have coaching better,

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Speaker 2: and the scouts that they have scouting better. But the

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Speaker 2: scouts are great, the players are great, and the coaches

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Speaker 2: are great. So that didn't really explain why the Bengals

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Speaker 2: went off the cliff this year. But nevertheless, Duke Tobin

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Speaker 2: did surface and did do a news conference, and anything

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Speaker 2: or anybody that expected anything more than what he gave

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Speaker 2: you on Friday was you are having serious, serious issues

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Speaker 2: with reality. I just it wasn't going to happen. So nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into that in just a little bit. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into the college football playoff today. Before we're all

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Speaker 2: said and done, it's shaping up to be terrific. The

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Speaker 2: best team in the country is in every team at

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Speaker 2: this point, or through at least the semi final. Every

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Speaker 2: team through the semi final was playing hot. They were good,

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Speaker 2: they were playing hot football. But after that dismantlement of Oregon,

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard pressed to look at Indiana and say,

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Speaker 2: unless you have just an overwhelmingly bad night, Indiana is

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Speaker 2: going to be the new next national champion. But we'll

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Speaker 2: see Miami is playing at the hard Rock Stadium at

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Speaker 2: home and in essence in front of a which should

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Speaker 2: be a large home crowd, so we'll see how that

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Speaker 2: plays out as well. But Indiana, if you look at them,

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Speaker 2: they just do so many different things well, it would

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Speaker 2: be very hard pressed to go against them in that game.

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Speaker 2: And I'm certainly not. I'm in with Indiana all the way. Basketball. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: We've got UC and UCF today at five. It'll be

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Speaker 2: right here on seven hundred WWLWUS lost three or four

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Speaker 2: five of the last seven, and that's a five o'clock

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Speaker 2: tip traction that UC was hoping to get this season

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Speaker 2: is simply not there. It just isn't. It seems to

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Speaker 2: be a group of players that have trouble playing well together.

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Speaker 2: They play well enough to make games close, but seem

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Speaker 2: to falter when games are on the line and quote

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Speaker 2: unquote finishing games off. So a win against UCF would

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Speaker 2: be good, if for nothing else than to maybe build

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Speaker 2: and jump. But I don't think you look at that

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Speaker 2: team right now and you say, hey, there's an NCAAA

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Speaker 2: field of sixty eight. Hard, very hard to look at

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Speaker 2: that right now. Meanwhile, you got Xavier. Now, Xavier is

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Speaker 2: not all that much better. Xavier is ten and seven

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Speaker 2: the Big East. They had four starters in double figures.

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Speaker 2: Nice good round scoring from the field. They were thirty

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Speaker 2: seventy five. So that's good shooting from the field. There's

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Speaker 2: no question about that. And I never really felt this

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Speaker 2: with Providence a little bit. Joe van Melissavik eight of twelve,

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Speaker 2: twenty two points in twenty five minutes, really solid. Malik

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Speaker 2: Here's something that I think just tells the story in

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Speaker 2: I thought Xavier kind of toyed with Providence in this game.

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Speaker 2: It's how you protect the basketball. Xavier twenty three assists

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Speaker 2: to it, in a major college Big East basketball team

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Speaker 3: Maybe better like it was at Marquette, but our offense

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Speaker 2: Now Pop is getting better. You're seeing it right in

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Speaker 3: But when we do have that lineup on the court

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Speaker 3: I think we're a very very good offensive team. The

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Tray Carroll is on the court for

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Speaker 2: almost thirty six minutes last night, eight to thirteen, eighteen points.

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Speaker 2: disappear for a little bit and then come back and

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Speaker 2: flash and flash the more. Yes, absolutely, with Carol Snatch

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Speaker 2: I look at him night in and night out. He's

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Speaker 2: a worker. He's going to give you what he gave

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Speaker 2: you last night. He gave you twenty five last night

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Speaker 2: a guy that gives you twenty two points, there is

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing wrong with that. Here he is after the game.

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Speaker 5: Definitely those past couple of games, I haven't been at

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Speaker 5: I just need to stop filing hacking too much. I mean,

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Speaker 2: So next up is Wednesday night against Butler. That's always

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Speaker 2: a great game, regardless of how the teams are doing. Well,

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Speaker 2: those two teams get together, it's a terrific ball game.

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Speaker 2: And then Saturday at the Centas Center it's Saint John's

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Speaker 2: Father against Son. This is like the Shuel Bowl revisit.

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Speaker 2: Remember that back in the nineties Dave and Don at

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Speaker 2: Richard Patino against Rick Patino, and they'll play again a

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Speaker 2: i mean three game losing streak. They had won twice

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Speaker 2: was a long layoff in there, but nevertheless, that was

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Speaker 2: a game they should have won, and they won. Now,

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Speaker 2: the sixty six team and that was kind of cool,

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Speaker 2: sixties nineteen sixty six Kentucky team. They got to mingle

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Speaker 2: too in this game, I thought was, you know, Pope

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Speaker 2: you know the rumblings about Pope. Pope took a team

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Speaker 2: last night that going into that game was nine and six,

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Speaker 2: zero to two in the SEC, and he beat Mississippi State.

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Speaker 2: Mississippi State eight was nine to six as well. So

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Speaker 2: this was another game that was a couple of teams

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Speaker 2: Odegay Oha twenty two points. That's on ten to seventeen,

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Speaker 2: two sixty eight win for Kentucky. Now, after the game,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that impressed Pope was the way

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Speaker 6: I'll be honest with the guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, twenty one assists the most we've had against

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Speaker 2: what happens when you pass the ball to your teammate.

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Speaker 2: A little bit I was really proud of our guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They're at LSU on Wednesday again, UK is ten and six. Miami.

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Speaker 2: You can't, I mean, on my goodness, I mean Travis Steele,

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Speaker 2: for all the struggles he had a savior. He has

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Speaker 2: On Friday Night, goes to Toledo and wins eighty seven

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Speaker 2: it may be. You go seventeen games into your schedule,

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Speaker 2: that includes five games inside your conference, inside a conference

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Speaker 2: that is always competitive. That's getting it done. I don't

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Speaker 2: that big time if Travis Steel's team strings together another

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Speaker 2: college basketball. We told you about UC playing later on today,

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Speaker 2: The NFL playoffs play on later on today. Buffalo at

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville one o'clock kick, Jacksonville at home, giving one and

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Speaker 2: to the forty nine Ers, and then Sunday Night Football

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Speaker 2: eight to fifteen. Tonight, New England at home giving three

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Speaker 2: in that game. And I don't know why. I know

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Speaker 2: if you were watching last night, you know what happened.

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Speaker 2: Two sixty four, two passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown. The

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Speaker 7: That's just an incredible job by all the all the

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Speaker 7: I think that's what twenty five points in the fourth

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Speaker 2: A couple of things that were also huge. Brandy McManus

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Speaker 2: Matt Lukewor, head coach of the Green Bay Packers, about

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Speaker 6: A lot of bad things happen.

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Speaker 8: I think a pivotal part was offensively. We come out

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Speaker 2: And that's the reason why his team is going home

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Speaker 1: I know you're thinking about the next game, Well, when will.

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Speaker 11: You stop and appreciate how special, on how historic all

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Speaker 6: I'm really not thinking about the next game.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about cracking open a beer.

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Speaker 2: But there you go, Signetti after the win the other night,

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Speaker 11: I'm doing well, Kennants back from Atlanta and just ready

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Speaker 11: He's someone that idolizes Tom Brady, and realistically he is

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Speaker 6: And maybe I haven't been around as long.

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Speaker 2: Indiana gets one hundred and eighty five yards on the ground,

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Speaker 2: twenty two, but that game was that, that game was over.

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Speaker 2: It was over probably middle second quarter, but that interception

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Speaker 2: had to just deflate the.

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Speaker 6: Ducks, oh one hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: We watched my friend and I watched the rerun of

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Speaker 11: the broadcast. That TV broadcast did not do the sound justice.

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Speaker 6: It was the modest.

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Speaker 11: Woman I have ever heard in any sport, spanning a

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Speaker 11: lot of games when the angelo Pons grabbed that ball,

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Speaker 11: because that was that was than ninety five to five

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Speaker 11: percentage wise crowd in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: That was not.

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Speaker 11: Indiana's backyard, but they made it a home game and

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Speaker 11: some so right after that, you could tell, oh, wow,

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Speaker 11: this is gonna be different. D'Angelo pon's that interception. They

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Speaker 11: didn't even need the interception for the crowd purposes, and

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Speaker 11: like you said, Oregon march down the field you thought, okay,

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Speaker 11: this could be a game, but they were just playing

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Speaker 11: behind the eight ball. They played against the crowd, they

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Speaker 11: played against just a stout, physical, relentless Indiana defense.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk. Let's yeah, the Indiana defense. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 2: they have got some obviously some terrific players. Aidan Fisher,

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Speaker 2: the senior transfer, he's the mic, he's the middle linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely just terrific. A little bit about him because he

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Speaker 2: seems to be the heart and soul of that Indiana defense.

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Speaker 2: What's his story? How has he progressed this year? For

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Speaker 2: those that might not have seen all of the Indiana games.

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Speaker 11: He went from all Big ten to all Americans in

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Speaker 11: my opinion this year.

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Speaker 6: Kenny, he is the he's.

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Speaker 11: The vocal leader off the field too, but he wears

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Speaker 11: the coach to player dot. So everybody trusts Aidan Fisher

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Speaker 11: and he leads the team in total tackles the.

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Speaker 6: Other night with nine.

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Speaker 11: But it's the guys that surround him that make him

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Speaker 11: so good. He they trust their captain, they trust him,

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Speaker 11: they look to him for every single play. And there's

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Speaker 11: a reason for it because he's earned that spot. He's

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Speaker 11: in his fourth year at Sagetti and defensive coordinator Bryant Haines,

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Speaker 11: who called a spectacular game once again against.

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Speaker 6: A really good team.

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Speaker 11: But Aidan Fisher is one of those guys that he

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Speaker 11: just keeps progressing, he keeps improving his draft stock, but

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Speaker 11: he's not doing it for himself. He does it for

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Speaker 11: his team and that's why that's why he's so good.

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Speaker 2: I watched, obviously, the Ohio State game championship game, and

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Speaker 2: the defense was terrific, and so was a player in

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Speaker 2: that game that I want to give a little bit

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Speaker 2: of attention to, and that was Isaiah Jones, who's an

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Speaker 2: Ohio guy. He's from right up the road between here

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Speaker 2: in Columbus London, Ohio. Had terrific game against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I'll watch him even in games where you look at

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Speaker 2: the numbers and you say to yourself, well, okay, I

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Speaker 2: don't see the numbers, but a boy, did I see

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Speaker 2: him flying around? The UCLA game comes immediately to mind.

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Speaker 2: And then, of course Oregon is probably sick of seeing

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Speaker 2: this dude, because when they played Oregon in the regular

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Speaker 2: season out there in Oregon, guy had three solos, eight

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Speaker 2: total tackles, two tackles for a loss and a sack.

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Speaker 2: And he follows that back up with a five solo

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Speaker 2: tackle game against Oregon and a sack and tackle for

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Speaker 2: a loss and a half and pressures Galore. Let's a

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Speaker 2: little bit about a little bit about Isaiah Jones, because

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Speaker 2: it seems to me that he doesn't really get the

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Speaker 2: attention I think he deserves. Do you feel that as well?

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Speaker 11: I think that him nor Elijah Hardy, the other linebacker,

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Speaker 11: get the attention they deserve. Everything really goes to Ayden

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Speaker 11: Fisher deservingly. Should I say that Isaiah Jones and Elijah

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Speaker 11: Hardy make this defense go?

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Speaker 6: Indiana?

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Speaker 11: Brian Aine just runs some incredible scheme. He schemes incredible blitzes.

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Speaker 11: He puts Jones and Hardy in in great positions to succeed.

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Speaker 11: But he flies all over the place, does Isaiah Jones.

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Speaker 11: He he's someone that goes under the radar, But as

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Speaker 11: soon as you see him coming off the edge, it's

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Speaker 11: it's game over if he gets around that offensive lineman

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Speaker 11: or whoever is going to attempt to block me. He

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Speaker 11: won one point five tackles for loss is the other day,

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Speaker 11: and and the sacks might not come in in Indiana

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Speaker 11: really only had three and two of them came from

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Speaker 11: Daniel and Dukeway, but it starts with that, that trio

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Speaker 11: of linebackers with Fisher, with Joanes and with Elijah Hardy.

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Speaker 11: So he's one of those guys that he's stuck around

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Speaker 11: after Tom Allen was tired, he begged to get on

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Speaker 11: to the roster under Kurtzignetti and Brian Taynes. And he's

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Speaker 11: really done a fantastic job. Might not have done a

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Speaker 11: whole lot last year, but he has just gotten better,

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Speaker 11: even more so than Aiden Fisher.

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Speaker 6: Just keeps getting better.

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Speaker 2: And he's really he's only a junior.

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Speaker 11: He'll be back next year and he'll likely be taking

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Speaker 11: that Aiden Fisher role.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're chatting with Josh pos inside the Hall

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Speaker 2: dot com, great destination for all things IU athletics. All Right,

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Speaker 2: here comes Miami. It's a home game for Miami. Miami.

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Speaker 2: Miami has Carson Beck. Carson Beck I think he's forty

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Speaker 2: eight years old. He's running around. He's quarterback in the

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Speaker 2: University of Miami. It's a it's a it's a balanced offense.

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Speaker 2: It's a defense that that seems to play very well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've got they've got cornerbacks that play like

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Speaker 2: a professional, like a professional, like an NFL cornerback. I'm

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Speaker 2: just wondering as you look at Miami understanding they're still standing.

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Speaker 2: So anybody that's made it this far has to be

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Speaker 2: very good and has to be on somewhat of a

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Speaker 2: hot streak. As you look at that game very early on,

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Speaker 2: what do you think Miami does that presents the biggest

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Speaker 2: problem for Indiana either side of the ball.

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Speaker 6: It has to be their defense.

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Speaker 11: Can they Reuben Bain Junior or is one of the

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Speaker 11: best defensive linemen I have seen in college football. We

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Speaker 11: watched in the media hotel, like there's one hundred people,

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Speaker 11: We're all watching the game and oohs and odds every

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Speaker 11: time Ruben Bain did something. So that defensive line for

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Speaker 11: the Ducks, not the Ducks, sorry the Canes. I'm still

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Speaker 11: still in Atlanta right now. Mentally, I guess, but yeah,

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Speaker 11: that's true. But I think that defensively, that defensive front

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Speaker 11: scares me the most. But if you look at Indiana's

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Speaker 11: offensive line that they've they've had a couple of hiccups

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Speaker 11: in games, but they seem to patch it up.

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Speaker 6: So it really boils down to.

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Speaker 11: The trenches as it does in most college football games

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Speaker 11: at this point. But I think if the defensive line

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Speaker 11: play for Miami shows up, then we're gonna have a really, really,

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Speaker 11: really good game.

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Speaker 2: Let's flip that just a little bit. Because Malachai Tony

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Speaker 2: is the big target for Beck. He's got nine touchdown passes. CJ.

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Speaker 2: Daniels is terrific as well, he's got seven. He put

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Speaker 2: in Kielan Marion who has seven, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you've got a trio of receivers that Carson Beck can

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Speaker 2: throw to. And then of course you have Mark Fletcher.

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Speaker 2: Fletcher is he'll probably finish this year somewhere north of

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Speaker 2: eleven hundred and fifty yards. He's their go to guy,

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Speaker 2: and he's averaging five four or five five per game

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Speaker 2: per carry, and he's the guy that go to when

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Speaker 2: they want to run, and they want to run and

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Speaker 2: they want to get the ball in the end zone running.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering, from an offensive standpoint, against that

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Speaker 2: Indiana defense, which has played very, very well, how do

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Speaker 2: you see that scenario playing out?

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 11: You always see this time of your team, unless it's

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Speaker 11: a rematch. You here, Oh, Miami's never seen a team

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Speaker 11: like Indiana or Indiana has never seen an offense like Miami.

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Speaker 11: I think that Miami's really hot right now. They're very streaky.

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Speaker 11: I mean, Carson Beck has been up and down in

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Speaker 11: the two losses this year. He's been he's been strugglings.

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Speaker 11: He's backed up right now. Malachai Tony. You talk about

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Speaker 11: Carson Beck being forty something years old. Mal Kai Tony

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Speaker 11: just turned eighteen a couple months ago, so he was impressive.

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Speaker 11: I think it's Indiana defense. If you give Kurtzignetti and

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Speaker 11: Bryant Haynes time to prepare, they will know everything that

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Speaker 11: you do and everything that you'll run. I think that

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Speaker 11: Miami's offense plays really hard, really quick, like you said,

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Speaker 11: but it's up to Indiana's defense. They they've been able

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Speaker 11: to control the line of scrimmage. They've been able to

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Speaker 11: control everything in front of them.

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Speaker 6: They don't get deep deep. That was a little bit

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Speaker 6: of an issue early in the season.

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Speaker 11: They gave up a seventy five yeard touchdown on the

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Speaker 11: first play of their seat you yeah, and then a

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Speaker 11: big one against Illinois. But that doesn't happen anymore. They've

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Speaker 11: got the guys, so I think this could be a

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Speaker 11: low scoring game, at least for Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Pose inside Thehall dot Com, as he wrote

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Speaker 2: in his game story, making history is all Indiana knows

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Speaker 2: right now. The Hoosiers. I'm not reciting Othello to Shakespeare here, Josh,

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Speaker 2: so just don't get too wrapped up on what I'm

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Speaker 2: doing here. But the Hoosiers, he said, became the first

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Speaker 2: team since eighteen ninety six to score fifty five points

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Speaker 2: or more and win by thirty points or more in

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Speaker 2: seven different games in a single season, two of which

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Speaker 2: came against Top ten opponents. That's just how good it

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Speaker 2: is right now at Indiana and for an IU football fan.

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Speaker 2: All right, Josh, I'll be looking to see what you're

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Speaker 2: right from today on out. But for your time today,

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Speaker 2: thank you and good luck. Enjoy the game.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Thanks, Jed, and I will.

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Speaker 2: This coming Friday and Saturday downtown at the refurbish Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: They just haven't. They took a swing and a miss

651
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: on Kyle Schwarber. They lowballed him by twenty five million dollars,

652
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: thinking that, well, you know, maybe he'd like to come home. Well,

653
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: for that extra twenty five million, he can buy his

654
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: own private jet and come home from Philadelphia anytime he wants.

655
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: They did not make a play for Pete Alonso or

656
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: anyone else. Don't sense that they're in the market for

657
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker. But nevertheless, they did do a flurry of

658
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: activity late last week. They got Spencer Steer to sign

659
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: four million dollars one year contract, Gavin Lux one year,

660
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: five and a half million, TJ Friedel one year, three

661
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: point eight, Will Benson one point seven million, he's back,

662
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: and Matt McClain came to terms for two point three

663
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: million dollars. You put that with Brady Singer and Nick

664
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Lidolo and Tony Santian and it looks like they're rounding

665
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: up the band for a complete runback. But nevertheless, there

666
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: is still time left between now and spring training to

667
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: find somebody to help in the middle of that order.

668
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: Standing by to help us with all of that is

669
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: a guy who covers the Reds for a living. Mark

670
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: Sheldon works for MLB dot com and he covers the Reds,

671
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: and he covers the Reds is I think as well

672
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: as anybody else. In fact, I think there are times

673
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: when I look at Mark Sheldon, who I knew many

674
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: many years ago when we worked together at Channel five,

675
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: and I said, now, there's a guy that's going places,

676
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: and he did. He went to MLB dot com and

677
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: he's joining us right now here on seven hundred WLW

678
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: to talk about the twenty twenty six Reds and Mark Sheldon,

679
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious.

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00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 6: Sunday, fantastic good morning to you and help all as well.

681
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything here is good. Everything there for you is

682
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: about to start exploding because Reds vest is coming up,

683
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: and then right after that it's on a good year.

684
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: By the way, this is something I've always wondered. Do

685
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: beat writers for a baseball team, which is the longest

686
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: of all the sports in terms of where it takes

687
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: place on the calendar? Do you ever get a day.

688
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 6: Off at spring training or just during the season. I get, yeah,

689
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 6: I get days off, you know, a couple here, a

690
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 6: couple of there. I come home for a few days

691
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 6: during spring training, and then during the season I get

692
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 6: a good amount of days off and skip a trip

693
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 6: here and there. So yeah, it's pretty good.

694
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: Oh I don't feel as bad for you now as

695
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: I did about fifteen seconds ago.

696
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 6: So oh, thank you.

697
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: So the Reds did a flurry of activity on the

698
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: contract signing front late last week, and it was basically

699
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: rounding up the old band and putting them in place

700
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: for twenty I didn't see anything that really surprised me.

701
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: Maybe the Singer move, the singer is going to command

702
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 2: an excess to twelve million, But nothing that they did

703
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: with those you know, those restricted free agents, those guys

704
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 2: that can't go anywhere, those arbitration soon to be arbitration

705
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: eligible guys. I had to see anything that that surprised me.

706
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 6: Anything surprise you, No, not really, It's kind of a

707
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 6: perfunctory thing. It's more of a of a nuanced thing

708
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 6: in baseball. These guys are all under club control. It's

709
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: not like they could. They didn't sign, they go somewhere else.

710
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 6: You know, certainly nobody wants to have an arbitration hearing,

711
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 6: neither the club nor the player. And right now as

712
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: the stands, two players and Tyler Stevenson and Graham Ashkraft

713
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 6: have filed and exchange numbers, and it's very possible but

714
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 6: most likely they'll have to have a hearing in the

715
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 6: coming weeks. But yeah, nothing too surprising. I mean, everyone

716
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 6: there's a market number that they all kind of try

717
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 6: to hit for the you know, whatever the year of

718
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 6: service you have. And Brady Singer's numbers in line with

719
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 6: probably where the market is and as a starting pitcher

720
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 6: and based on what he did last season. So I

721
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 6: think it's all pretty much standard stuff free agents.

722
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Speaker 2: We know that they made a shot at Schwarber it

723
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: didn't work out. I'm not sure who else they made

724
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: a play for it. Doesn't sound like Peter Alonso is

725
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: somebody they made a play for. But let's talk about

726
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: free agents that are still available. The guy that's out there,

727
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: and I'm not suggesting he's in the Red's wheelhouse or anything,

728
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: but a guy like Kyle Tucker who wants an inordinate

729
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: contract I think ten to eleven years, somewhere in the

730
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty five million dollar range something like that.

731
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Speaker 2: Does that Domino have to fall before the other so

732
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: called big names that are still out there, Is that

733
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: Domino have to fall before anything else happens.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so. I mean, it does help when

735
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 6: when teams know what they have and then they all

736
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 6: pivot and things like that, But I think in terms

737
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 6: of where the Reds are, that shouldn't affect anything. The

738
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 6: only Domino they were worried about maybe he was a

739
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 6: month ago with Kyle forber and then that all went

740
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 6: to you know, when he went to the Phillies. But

741
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 6: I don't think now the Reds are looking to swim

742
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 6: in that level of the swimming pool. So I don't

743
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 6: think that what goes on on the top will trickle

744
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 6: down too part of the towards the bottom end of

745
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 6: the market.

746
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Revenue has to have a lot to do with what

747
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: they with what they do. Every major league team, if

748
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: you believe the pundits, if you believe the books, every

749
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: major league team makes money. The Reds would have you believe. No,

750
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: not necessarily, but it would. It would seem to me

751
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: that that the revenue discrepancy in baseball is one of

752
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: the major reasons why that teams like the Reds struggled

753
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: to sign players or play in that water as opposed

754
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: to teams like the Yankees, the Mets, the Cubs, the Dodgers,

755
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the usual suspects. And I don't know what

756
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: the answer is. They try to luxury tax years ago,

757
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: and I guess there's some sort of level playing field

758
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: with that. But the revenues in baseball are just out

759
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: of control. And I know fans don't want to hear

760
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: big markets small, but it is there, and it is real,

761
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: is it not?

762
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 6: It's real. I mean the biggest thing is when the Reds,

763
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: uh make a signing that doesn't work, kind of like

764
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 6: a jam or Candelario, they feel it more. You know,

765
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: they owe him twenty two million dollars when they when

766
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: they let him go in the you know early on

767
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: in last season. But for the Dodgers and for the

768
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 6: Yankee that's a write off. I mean, that's not a

769
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 6: that's that they don't they don't feel that they will

770
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: continue to spend money. And that's that's where the discrepancy is.

771
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 6: Is when the Reds miss on a free agent, it's

772
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 6: it's catastrophic, whether it's Mike Mustakis or that way back

773
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: in the way back machine, Eric Milton, you know, things

774
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 6: like that, or even when they make a huge splash

775
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: on trade for a guy like Ken Griffy Junior. He

776
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: took up a lot of their payroll and they left

777
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 6: them little room to do other stuff. So there's there,

778
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 6: there's more consequences maybe for a small market team to

779
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: to have a free agent come in and then miss.

780
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's deal with reality. Let's talk about

781
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: who is here for this twenty twenty six season. At

782
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: this point. We got tantalized by Sal Stewart at the

783
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: end of last year, and I noticed in these lineups

784
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: you have him Dhing, you have a third base. Is

785
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 2: Stuart a guy they have to have in the lineup

786
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: every night? In other words, maybe not one sixty two,

787
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: but maybe one hundred and fifty games. I mean that

788
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: is that a given if they cannot land some sort

789
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: of a power back between now and opening day.

790
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Speaker 6: It's only a given if he goes to spring training

791
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 6: and shows that he's capable of picking up where he

792
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: left off in September. I spoke to Tum a few

793
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 6: weeks a stove and he and Jim did that. He

794
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 6: lost twenty six pounds, so he's really working on being

795
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 6: more athletic and more more you know, just physically fit,

796
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 6: and that seed to help him on defense. But offensively,

797
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 6: he asked him just be the guy he was. He

798
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 6: hit five homers and led the team in September, so

799
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 6: that's a good sign. But then again, you got to

800
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 6: be careful. You don't want to get too excited because

801
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 6: a guy like Christian V. Carrossi on Strand a few

802
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 6: years ago had a really great end of the season

803
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 6: and he came out was I'm unable to hit the

804
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 6: ball in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five. So

805
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 6: they have to really they have to see. But he

806
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 6: the guy they're going to be counting on it without

807
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 6: adding somebody that the ONUS goes on. Guys like Stuart,

808
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 6: like Noelvie Marte, obviously La de la Cruz, Matt McLean.

809
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 6: They're going to have to level up and provide more

810
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 6: production than even than they did last season.

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Speaker 2: Dane Myers and JJ Blode. Okay, when those signings were

812
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: the one signing and the one trade was announced, and

813
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, I'm thinking, Okay, probably a platoon

814
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: situation in the outfield. Is that where you see them?

815
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: Do they get consistent platoon or is there one guy

816
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: that's going to emerge? I mean, I know it's difficult.

817
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: We still haven't seen either one of them in a

818
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: red uniform, But how do you see that playing out?

819
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Speaker 6: I mean I could see some platoon. I think Myers

820
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 6: is the guy because he's really good on defense. He

821
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 6: could play all three positions. I think he looks like

822
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 6: a guy that could spell Friedel when maybe there's a

823
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 6: really tough left hander or freed will need to break.

824
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 6: He gets banged up pretty you know. The way he

825
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: plays center field, Myers can step in. They haven't had

826
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 6: a true center fielder to back him up the last

827
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 6: season or so, so that Myers can do that left field.

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Speaker 6: That could be a platoon. But there's also it depends

829
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: on what happens with Spencer Steer, he's a left fielder

830
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 6: as well. Yeah, you will Benson out there. You have

831
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 6: Bladey and Myers, so there's a lot of choices, not

832
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 6: to mention some other guys that are in the system still,

833
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 6: whether it's Blake Dunn and resigns and Tyler Callahan. So

834
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 6: there's a lot of choices right now. It's going to

835
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: have to shake out in spring training. Even though Bladay

836
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 6: is you know, he signed a deal, he's no guarantees

837
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: he becomes a regular player. He has to earn it.

838
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 6: I think that's the way it is, and same with Myers.

839
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 6: But right now it looks like I would imagine Blade

840
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 6: is going to be in left field against right handers

841
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 6: and then either Spencer Steer or Myers against left team.

842
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, how does how does this lineup fall?

843
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: In your opinion, if they don't get what they need

844
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: in the middle of that.

845
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: Batting order, well it's gonna be tough. I mean, they're

846
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 6: gonna have nobody really supporting Ellie Day La Cruz, you know,

847
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 6: who batted third but then was dropped at fifth and sixth.

848
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 6: Guys like McClain started up adding second was batting eighth

849
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 6: or ninth. Key Brian Hayes has got a very very

850
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 6: low OPS and heat bats ninth. So basically you look

851
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 6: at it, maybe it's like Treidole, Marte de la Cruz,

852
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 6: dear Stewart, Blade, Stevenson, McLain and Hayes. That's kind of

853
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 6: probably what I would imagine the regular lineup in some

854
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 6: form could look like. But then you can mix and

855
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 6: match here and there. But you know, right now, I

856
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 6: mean this team was like twenty sixth and ops plus

857
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 6: it was twenty first in regular ops. They only had

858
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 6: like nine keington her twenty first in homers, you know,

859
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 6: and that's a great American ballpark, and they are twenty

860
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 6: first in homers. So it's like they it's they would

861
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 6: be relying a lot on pitching, the starting pitching, namely

862
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: run prevention, and then you got you gotta hope the

863
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 6: offense is better than it was last year. It's situational hitting,

864
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 6: hitting an extra inning, scoring runs in general. But if

865
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 6: they can do a little bit better, then you would

866
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 6: think eighty three wins go, that's the base and you

867
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 6: move up from that a little bit, and then in

868
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 6: a division that's pretty winnable. I mean, Milwaukee hasn't done

869
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 6: anything this offseason. The Cubs have started to percolate, the

870
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 6: Pirates have been frisky, but you don't know if those

871
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 6: are the moves that are gonna get them to be

872
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 6: any better than they've been. So the Reds are still

873
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 6: have a chance to do well in the NL Central. However,

874
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 6: adding another bat would really make things a lot better

875
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 6: for them and maybe make them the more closer to

876
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 6: the favorite.

877
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: Mark Sheldon MLB dot com covers the reds our guest

878
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred at WLW. We haven't talked about

879
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: starting pitching. I want to touch on it for a minute.

880
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: The big four are back with the signing of Brady Singer.

881
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: You've got your big four obviously, Gret Green, Lodolo, Abbott, Singer.

882
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: Where does Rhet Lauder fit into all of this? I

883
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: know he was injured for the majority of this past season.

884
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm he had such an upside when he was coming

885
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: through the system. There's still a high hopes for him

886
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: on shore. Does he fit into the twenty twenty sixth

887
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: plan in your opinion?

888
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 6: Well, that's gonna be the best competition of the spring

889
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: training for the least of the Reds. I mean he

890
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 6: got Reht Louder, you got Chase Burns who had an

891
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 6: electric debut as well. So those two guys that the

892
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 6: Louder had a one point one seven ERA and six

893
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 6: starts when he's debuted in twenty twenty fours first pro season. Obviously,

894
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 6: Burns set the world on fire with his UH with

895
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 6: just this ability to get guys to strike out and

896
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 6: throwing a high velocity. And then you also have guys

897
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 6: like Brandon Williamson and Juliann agi Are and you know

898
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 6: there's other names. But yes, rather I would say Red

899
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 6: Louder fits in their plans. But he's going to have

900
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 6: to go out and earn a spot in camp. And

901
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 6: I think that battle for the fifth spot among four

902
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 6: guys really is going to be really fun to watch.

903
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. But what you really need, Mark

904
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: is some drama out there in Goodyear. You need something

905
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: out there to you know, get you to the park

906
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: every day and write, right, you want some drama. You

907
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: just don't want to write about Rehet Louder and can

908
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: he get an to the lineup? You want some consternation

909
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: out there, don't you. I don't know about consternation and drama.

910
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: But I do want something to write about that would

911
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 6: at least make people like open their phones or their

912
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 6: laptops and read it.

913
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it ain't about journalism. It's about clicks, homily kidding, yeah,

914
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: Mark Sheldon a MLB dot com. If you're not reading

915
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: them on a daily basis, you're misinformed, ill informed. And

916
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: if you are reading on a daily basis, well you

917
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: know what he's all about. All right, Stay well. Hopefully

918
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: we get a chance to talk at some point before

919
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: opening day. I'm sure we will. But between now and then,

920
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: stay well, you do the same. They get easy, Mark Sheldon.

921
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: They need a bat in the middle of that lineup.

922
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got to protect Daily Cruise. They can

923
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: move Ellie Daily Cruise all over the lineup. You got

924
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: to have somebody else in there. And I think what's

925
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: hampering them, frankly, is the television contract. They don't have

926
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 2: a TV deal. Fan Duel is, you know, again out

927
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: of the TV business. It was what was it, Diamond

928
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: Sports a couple of years ago, then it became fan

929
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: Duel and it's left a lot of baseball teams like

930
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: the Reds nine to be exact in limbo in terms

931
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: of TV revenue, and that's where if you're a team

932
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: like Cincinnati, that's where you're going to get the money

933
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: to buy players, and they simply don't have that they

934
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: can count on right now. It's not an excuse, it's reality.

935
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: And until they can get that thing stable, I don't

936
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: know how they go out and become major players. I

937
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: think it was a swing and a mess with Schwarberg,

938
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: but at least they took a swing. They missed badly.

939
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: They never played for Alonzo. You got to get you

940
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: gotta get protection in the middle of that lineup, or

941
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: you got a hope, or you got a hope that

942
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: your defense is so good and your pitching is so

943
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: good that it makes up for a lot of what

944
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: you can't do offensively. And those are big ifs and

945
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: big question marks going into goodyear here in about five weeks,

946
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: do they sign somebody to a Pillow contract? Do they

947
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: doing Austin Hayes deal with somebody that's I don't know.

948
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: Payroll is not supposed to increase significantly, but it has

949
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: singers getting more money. Lodolo is getting more money. We

950
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: saw what it took to sign those other players last week.

951
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: And if you're committed to keeping your payroll number at

952
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: what it was last year. I don't know how you

953
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: go out and you and you say you either trade

954
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: or signed for somebody that is making infinitely more money

955
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: than you're willing to spend. Who knows, I don't, You don't,

956
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: They don't. All we know is they haven't done it yet.

957
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: It is ten twenty four on this Sunday, and this

958
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: is seven hundred a WLW.

959
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 12: A lot of people get their kicks talking trash about America.

960
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: That just goes to show how ignorant they are.

961
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 13: Someone needs to sit their butts down and give them

962
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 13: a good solid dose of Bill Cunningham.

963
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: Willie will teach them how lucky they are to be American.

964
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 2: Do they really think it's better in Russia?

965
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 6: Hell?

966
00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: No, bettery.

967
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 6: No one wants to be in Haiti better in Canada.

968
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 4: I don't want poutine.

969
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 6: I want Bill Cunningham. He's a great American. Bill Cunningham.

970
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 6: Tomorrow at twelve noon on seven hundred w l W

971
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 6: John down from my Heart Media here.

972
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Speaker 2: Seven hundred WL company, Welcome back to the festivities. Ten

976
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: thirty eight on this Sunday, reminded once again, after a

977
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: little tantalizingly good weather, that it is still winter. So

978
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: put that in your pipe and carry with you for

979
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: the next couple of days, because apparently winter is not

980
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: done sticking its claws into us here till noon. A

981
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: lot to get to. FC Cincinnati College football playoffs still

982
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: on the docket, and it is officially draft season for

983
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: every team that is not in the and FL playoffs,

984
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: that would include the Bengals. Duke Tobin met the media

985
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: on Friday, and it was not really There were no

986
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: startling revelations other than maybe the scouting staff is going

987
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: to remain as thin as it is right now, and

988
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: other than you know, Tobin taking some accountability for the

989
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: way that this is gone the last several years, and

990
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 2: although not offering specific reasons as to why he thinks

991
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: it's going to get better other than faith in his

992
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: players and his coaches, he did say this.

993
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 14: You've got to make the right decisions. It's on me

994
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 14: to point us in the right direction. When we've had failures,

995
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 14: I pointed us in the wrong direction.

996
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 6: We are a.

997
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 14: Highly collaborative football team.

998
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 6: We really are.

999
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 14: We want everybody's buy in on what we're doing. We

1000
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 14: want them to know the why of what we're doing,

1001
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 14: the reasons for the decision, and what the vision for

1002
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 14: the individual players that are here is. We want everybody

1003
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 14: on board with that.

1004
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: But the track record in the draft for any NFL

1005
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: team is not overwhelmingly great. I mean, you could look

1006
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: historically about thirty to forty percent of the players that

1007
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 2: are drafted on draft day go to their team and

1008
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: significantly contribute, not thirty to forty percent, and by significantly

1009
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: can contribute, it's you know, five hundred snaps, three and

1010
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: a half year career, some big plays. It's a fluid figure.

1011
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: But it's not like, hey, you draft, here's your draft class,

1012
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: and eighty percent of this draft class is going to

1013
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: come and really contribute. So if you look at what

1014
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: he's done with Tobin and his staff have done, let's

1015
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: just say since twenty twenty, it kind of falls into

1016
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: that NFL norm twenty twenty, I mean the first three

1017
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: picks they had, you know, basically a fifth grader could

1018
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: have made Joe Burrow, t Higgins, Logan Wilson. After that,

1019
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, they got a Keen Davis Gather not much

1020
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: after that. Twenty twenty one, again a fifth grader could

1021
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: have made the pick, Jamar Chase, and then we got

1022
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: Jackson Carbon in round two who was an absolute whit,

1023
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 2: Joseph Osai in round three, Cam Sample in round four,

1024
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: but then it fall fall off. Tyler Shelvin was not good,

1025
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: Dante Smith in round four not good. They get Evan

1026
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 2: McPherson in round five that seems to have paid off.

1027
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, they got Dax Hill, who was kind

1028
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: of bound his stride here in the last year and

1029
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: a half two years. But then you got Cam Taylor

1030
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: Britt who I think it would be fair to say underachieved,

1031
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: Zach Carter who never achieved, Cordel Volson who was handed

1032
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: a starting job and then he could not hold onto it.

1033
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three Miles Murphy. Everybody is in love with

1034
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: Miles Murphy and what he's done here in the last

1035
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: in the last three or four games, where the hell

1036
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: was he before? Then you can't have a first round

1037
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: draft pick in twenty twenty three and you don't really

1038
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: see him do what you think he's supposed to do

1039
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: until twenty twenty five. They did get DJ Turner, great

1040
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: pick round two, Jordan Battle very good pick round three,

1041
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: Charlie Jones round four, Chase Brown round five, andre Yosivash

1042
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: round six. That was a good draft that exceeded what

1043
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: the NFL averages is for players that come in and

1044
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 2: make an impact. Twenty twenty four, Amarus Mims. It looks

1045
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: like he is solid and a stalwart at right tackle.

1046
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: Maybe someday moves to left tackle. Round two, Chris Jenkins disappointment.

1047
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: Round three, Jermaine Burton absolute unmitigated with McKinley Jackson round three.

1048
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: Never he has nothing about him. Stands out Eric All

1049
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: round four. He's been nothing but hurt. Josh Newton round five.

1050
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: That was good value. I think he's contributed. Wouldn't call

1051
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: him great, but good. Cedric Johnson round six, defensive end,

1052
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: good player. So you get a mixed bag in there,

1053
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: and I think maybe our thinking is clouded because this

1054
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: team has underachieved at key times with key players the

1055
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: last three seeds reasons. But his drafts, if you look

1056
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: at Tobin's drafts, they're about the NFL norm extract Burrow, extract, Chase,

1057
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: extract Higgins, which again, an elementary school kid would have said, yeah,

1058
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: take him now. They committed right about I think the

1059
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: NFL average. But that's not good enough. When you have

1060
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T Higgins and you got

1061
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: to spend money in free agency. You can't bottom feed.

1062
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: You just can't. You can't be that team they've been

1063
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: where they wait and they wait and they wait and

1064
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: then they see what's left. I don't think you're in

1065
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: that position, that position of luxury right now. Neither does

1066
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: Trevor sa Kima. He is the pro football focused draft guru,

1067
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: and he is busily working on the draft guide that

1068
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: will come out here in a couple of months. And

1069
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: so I think I caught him in between teams or

1070
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: positions or whatever. But this is his season, this is

1071
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: draft season, and we are in the middle of draft

1072
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: season right here in Cincinnati. So let's bring Trevor on in.

1073
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: Got him on the line here. Trevor, how are you

1074
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: on this glorious Sunday.

1075
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing fantastic. Like you said, for some teams

1076
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: it's officially draft season. For others it's the postseason. But

1077
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a I'm a Buccaneers fan. Myself. So

1078
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: we're on the draft season. That's that's what it is.

1079
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: That's what it is. If you ask me, So, it's

1080
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: going to be with you, my friend.

1081
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: So I want I just want to before we get

1082
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: any further in this conversation, tell me how this happens.

1083
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: Todd Bowles, who had a team that looked like it

1084
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: could play deep into the playoffs. I think at one

1085
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: point the Buccaneers were favored to win the NFC Championship.

1086
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: His team falls apart at the end of the season.

1087
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: He keeps his job. Meanwhile, in Miami they fired Mike

1088
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: McDaniel on Thursday. And that's a team that you know,

1089
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: legitimately had problems at quarterback, at wide receiver. He seemed

1090
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: to hold it to together. Yet he loses his job

1091
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: and Bowles keeps his How does that happen?

1092
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: I think that when when you look at these two moves,

1093
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: and honestly, like a lot of the moves that either

1094
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: happen or don't happen around this time, Black Monday, black Week,

1095
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 4: whatever they whatever people want to call it, I think

1096
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 4: that a lot of people forget that these teams and

1097
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: these franchises are owned by billionaires who are the ones

1098
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 4: who cut the checks and look at the bottom line

1099
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: and have to do all of this, And to be

1100
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: honest with you, I think the only reason why Todd

1101
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 4: Bowles is still the head coach of the Buccaneers is

1102
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: because he's signed an extension last offseason, and the head

1103
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 4: coaching contracts are fully guaranteed, so if you fire one

1104
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 4: where you're still paying him, he's just not coaching your

1105
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: team anymore. And I think that when you look at

1106
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: the bottom line of I think it was simply the

1107
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 4: Buccaneers did not want to have to pay another coach

1108
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 4: to coach their team and also pay Todd Bowles to

1109
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 4: not coach their team. So I really do think that

1110
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 4: this came down to a money thing, because when you

1111
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: look at situations and winning loss, I mean, the Buccaneers

1112
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: started the year at six and two and they didn't

1113
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: win the most winnable division in the NFL, and that's

1114
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,479
Speaker 4: the and that's that's a major indictment on I think

1115
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 4: what was a underachieving, like you said, season for them.

1116
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: But I really do think that it kind of comes

1117
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 4: down to just it was it was a money thing.

1118
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 4: It's a financial thing.

1119
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it had to be at the end. At

1120
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: the end of the day, all of the answers to

1121
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: your questions in life is money. And speaking speaking of money,

1122
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: you got the Raiders with the number one overall. They

1123
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 2: just told Pete Carroll goodbye, which leads one to believe

1124
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: that whomever they draft will probably be someone that can

1125
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: work with a quarterback. Because I don't think there's any

1126
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: question Fernando Mendoza is the obvious top pick in this draft.

1127
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: So if Mendoza goes to the Raiders, my guess is

1128
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: they bring in a coach that is an offensive whiz.

1129
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: But you have no doubt or do you have a

1130
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: doubt that Mendoza goes number one overall?

1131
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: I think that you know, I won't say no doubt

1132
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: at this point in time, but I'd be I'm at

1133
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 4: like eighty five percent at this point the Mendoza would

1134
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: be number one. The only other player who would go

1135
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 4: number one overall is the Oregon quarterback, and funny enough,

1136
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: we get to see Oregon and Indiana faced off in

1137
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 4: the college Football playoff here, so that'll be fun to

1138
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: get a look at what might be the number one

1139
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: and the number two overall pick in the upcoming draft.

1140
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 4: But it's going to be a quarterback. And I think

1141
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 4: the Mendoza is absolutely in the driver's seat for it.

1142
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think that an offensive mind

1143
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 4: is you know, in uh, it is on the menu

1144
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 4: here for the Las Vegas Raiders, and I think they

1145
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 4: realize that they look at everything else that's happening around

1146
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: the league, and you know what's what's interesting, an interesting

1147
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: dynamic about about to select a young franchise quarterback is

1148
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 4: look at what's happening around the league. If you have

1149
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 4: a defensive minded head coach, he could be.

1150
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 6: A great head coach.

1151
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: But every single year, if you have a good year

1152
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: on offense, your offensive coordinator is getting coached. He's going

1153
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 4: to be a head coach somewhere else. And I think

1154
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers not to bring everything back to

1155
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 4: the Bucks, but they're the example of that. Three years

1156
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: ago they had Dave Canalis as their offensive coordinator. He

1157
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: has one year in Tampa Bay, a good one. Boom

1158
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 4: Carolina Iris head coach, they final Liam Cohen to be

1159
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator to replace him. One year boom. Now

1160
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 4: he's the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. And that's the

1161
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 4: frustrating part of not having an offensive minded head coach.

1162
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: These teams are always trying to find the next whiz kid,

1163
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 4: the next just offensive genius and guru. So I wonder

1164
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: if Mike McDaniel, the guy that we just talked about,

1165
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: I wonder if he's going to be a candidate for

1166
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 4: Las Vegas, a serious candidate there. I wondered the same

1167
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 4: about Kevin Stefanski, now available and out of Cleveland. You know,

1168
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 4: these are offensive minded coaches. Is Clinck Kubiak from the

1169
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks going to get looks at head coach? And

1170
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: if he does, I think that the Raiders will be

1171
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 4: one of those teams. But I do think it's Mendoz

1172
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: at the top, and I think they're going to try

1173
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 4: to pair him with an offensive mind at head coach.

1174
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 2: What do you make of this Mendoza and sign as

1175
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: a package deal to Indiana. That could be just a

1176
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: guy looking for clicks or some brain fart of some

1177
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: guy on one of those ESPN shows, But the fact

1178
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: of the matter is it would be interesting. I just

1179
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: I just can't see Signetti leaving Indiana. I think he's

1180
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: got a good thing going there.

1181
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. I think that one.

1182
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 4: I think that Signetti is just I think he's a

1183
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 4: college football guy. You know, he's been a college football

1184
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: lifer type of a dude, and he just signed that

1185
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: big extension with Indiana. I don't think he's going anywhere.

1186
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 4: And you look at his to say, his track record,

1187
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 4: as he says himself, you know he wins. Google him

1188
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 4: and I love that line from him. It was came

1189
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 4: with so much confidence. It was fun to hear. And

1190
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 4: that's exactly what he's done every step of the way.

1191
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 4: He was He was a saban offensive assistant when he

1192
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 4: was at Alabama, he won when he was at JMU,

1193
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 4: He's now winning while he's at Indiana. I do not

1194
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: think that there is any truth to him making the

1195
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 4: jump to the NFL.

1196
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: With Mendoza around Cincinnati, the buzz is or the desire,

1197
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: I suppose, is that at some point Caleb Downs falls

1198
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: to the Bengals when they pick tenth overall. Now, in

1199
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: your mocked raft, you have him going a few picks

1200
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: ahead of that, you have him going to the Commanders

1201
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: with the seventh overall pick. You have defensive tackle Caden

1202
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: McDonald from Ohio State. The Bengals are weak up the middle, interior,

1203
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: defensive line, linebackers, safeties. So either one of those guys

1204
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: would obviously be a great choice. If at ten Caleb

1205
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: Downs is there, and so too Caden McDonald, what's the

1206
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: choice in your opinion, I.

1207
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 4: Wouldn't say twice about a Caleb Downs to be to pick.

1208
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 4: You know, I understand that safety doesn't normally have super

1209
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: high a positional value. Like think of some of the

1210
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 4: best safeties in the league. Right, Antoine Minfield junior, he

1211
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 4: was a second round pick. Kyle Hamilton was even a

1212
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: mid first round pick. Derwin James was a mid first

1213
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 4: round pick himself. Nicky man Worri, we're seeing what he

1214
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 4: is as a hybrid sort of safety, nickel defender, what

1215
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: Caleb Downs could be. He gets selected in the second round,

1216
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 4: So you just don't get a lot of safeties that

1217
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 4: get picked that high. You know, Eric Berry is one

1218
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 4: of the last ones who was picked in the top ten.

1219
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 4: But man, that was so so long ago. It just

1220
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 4: doesn't happen very often. But Caleb Downs to me, is

1221
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: a change the math type of a player. He is

1222
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 4: somebody who when he is on the field, however, offenses

1223
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 4: either break the huddle or adjust with their personnel. If

1224
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: you need him to play in the nickel against a

1225
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 4: tight end, he can do it. If you need him

1226
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: to do the same thing against a shifty wide receiver,

1227
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 4: he can do that as well. You need him to blitz,

1228
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: he can do that. You need him to drop back

1229
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 4: in a free safety spot, He's got the athleticism in

1230
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: the football IQ and the anticipation to be able to

1231
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 4: do it. You want him in a robber roll over

1232
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 4: the middle boom, He's got you to me, he's a

1233
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 4: change the math type of a defensive chess piece. And

1234
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 4: so yes, safeties as a whole don't hold the value

1235
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 4: that you would likely want to pick as a top

1236
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: ten overall pick. Caleb Downs is different. I absolutely think

1237
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: he is different. If he is on the board, There's

1238
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 4: really not many other players I would even consider for

1239
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 4: the Bengals. I don't even know if there is another

1240
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: player that I consider for the Bengals at number ten overall.

1241
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: And they've been trying to replace Jesse Bates here for

1242
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: the last what three years?

1243
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 6: Right?

1244
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean there's a no brainer. Now.

1245
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: I raised the specter of linebacker Rvel Reeves from Ohio State,

1246
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: but then they had two rookie linebackers here last year,

1247
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: and neither one of them set the world on fire.

1248
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they would dip into the pool this

1249
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: early for another rookie linebacker, do you.

1250
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 4: That's what holds me from really having a linebacker here,

1251
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: because I think that linebacker is in was their biggest

1252
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 4: area of weakness. You talk about, this is a team

1253
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 4: that gave up the most yards per game rushing the

1254
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 4: football this past year, and I think that the linebackers

1255
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: were a big reason for that. But linebacker one is

1256
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 4: really difficult to play in the NFL. You're asked to

1257
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: do so much, whether it's spot drop coverage, man coverage,

1258
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 4: blitz a certain run defense, shifting through chaos between the trenches.

1259
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 4: You're just asked to do a lot. And so do

1260
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 4: you expect rookie linebackers to really stand out? That's rare

1261
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 4: in and of itself. So starting two young rookies, I

1262
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: think that as the early part of the season went on,

1263
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: whatever it was Week four, week five, when Logan Wilson

1264
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 4: was kind of benched, and they kind of came to

1265
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 4: the conclusion that like, hey, we're just we're gonna trade you.

1266
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 4: We're gonna let you go somewhere else. I think that

1267
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: Al Golden and Zach Taylor, of course as the head coach,

1268
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 4: just came to the conclusion that they were like, Hey,

1269
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: we're going to struggle this year. Burrows hurt, were probably

1270
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 4: not making the playoffs. Let's just start the young guys

1271
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: at linebacker. See what they've got going into next year.

1272
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: And so all that to say, I think that they

1273
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 4: could potentially add a linebacker, but if they're going to

1274
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a veteran much more

1275
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 4: so than draft even in Rgo Reeves or a Sonny Styles,

1276
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 4: who I actually like more for this team from Ohio

1277
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 4: State at that number ten spot. Talented, Yes, they're worth it,

1278
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 4: but I just the way that I feel Cincinnati went

1279
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 4: about their second level defenders this year, it would surprise

1280
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,480
Speaker 4: me as well if they went linebacker.

1281
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 6: At number ten.

1282
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and me too. Trevors the Kimaprofootballfocus dot Com.

1283
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 2: We're talking drafts. You do have the Bengals taking defensive

1284
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Speaker 2: tackle Caden McDonald from Ohio State. You had another Ohio

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01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 2: State guy. They've been trying to fix the interior of

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Speaker 2: that defensive line for about as long as they've been

1287
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: looking for Jesse Bates's replacement. Chris Jenkins just hasn't cut it.

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 2: McKinley Jackson has been even worse. Bj Hill is aging.

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Speaker 2: Who knows where he goes after this season. McDonald plays

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Speaker 2: the run extremely well, and I think that's job one

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Speaker 2: for this defense is stop the damn run and make

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Speaker 2: the other team one dimensional. It seems like you think

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Speaker 2: that McDonald could come to this league, the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: do that seamlessly. Do you feel that way?

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 4: And again we're talking a little bit about a positional

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 4: or I should say skill set value question here. Because

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Speaker 4: McDonald has an elite run defense grade this season. I

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Speaker 4: believe it's something around a ninety two point one overall

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 4: run defense grade. That's one of the highest in all

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Speaker 4: of college football. He has a solo run stop percentage

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 4: above thirteen percent, again one of the highest rates in

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Speaker 4: all of college football. So this guy can absolutely stop

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 4: the run. The caveat with him or the pushback at

1305
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 4: number ten is he's got a four percent Pastors win percentage.

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Speaker 4: His Pastorge win percentage grade is in the low sixties.

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Speaker 4: He's just not a pass rusher type of a player,

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01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 4: at least not yet, so you have to say to yourself,

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01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 4: we need to be better at run defense. Are we

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01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 4: okay with taking this player here at number ten? McDonald

1311
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 4: could be a target for them, but he could also

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 4: be a target for them if.

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Speaker 6: They wanted to trade down a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Now, Cincinnati's not really a game to get fancy with

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: a lot of trades up.

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Speaker 6: And down a lot of movie. They just don't really

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Speaker 6: do that a lot.

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Speaker 4: But this is a spot where if they want to

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Speaker 4: target McDonald, and they do some they do some intel

1320
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 4: of okay, well, we actually don't think other teams are

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01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: going to be interested until maybe we get close to

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: pick twenty. Maybe you pop back a couple of spots,

1323
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: get an extra you know, third round, fourth round draft pick,

1324
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 4: whatever it is, and then you still get your guy

1325
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 4: a little bit later. That's playing the game of the

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Speaker 4: NFL draft that I think is important. But improving that

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Speaker 4: defensive line. I mean, they haven't had an impact defensive

1328
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 4: lineman since you know acts to be honest with you, like,

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 4: they just they haven't had a player who has been

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01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 4: solid enough for them since since he was in his prime.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's about time that they really invest

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Speaker 4: in it and get somebody who could help.

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Speaker 6: Them in the middle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, because if you're not strong, it doesn't matter whether

1336
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: it's baseball or football. If you're not strong up the middle,

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: you're going nowhere. And unfortunately they or not, well, none

1338
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: of this will change between now and the draft, right.

1339
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: Everything we talked about will be solid come draft day.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't change, it doesn't morph, right.

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Speaker 4: No, of course not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this isn't the only mock drafting.

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Speaker 4: Well well, actually, actually for business, I would say please

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Speaker 4: click on the other mock draft that I'll have between

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01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 4: now and then. But whichever one you read, it's gonna

1346
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 4: be one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 6: You nailed there.

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Speaker 2: You go, all right, Trevor, you're one of our favorites.

1349
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Speaker 2: Stay well. Hopefully we can do this down the road

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Speaker 2: between now and then. Take care of yourself.

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Speaker 6: Okay, absolutely sounds good.

1352
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 4: You as well, Ken, I was gonna be with you.

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs if he's there, snag him, wrap him up

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Speaker 2: and bring him to Cincinnati. Coming up on ten fifty

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Speaker 2: it's two dollars off my pick beer of the week.

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Speaker 15: Well, the holidays have come and gone once again, but

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Speaker 1: Now news Radio seven hundred WLW presents Sunday morning sports

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Speaker 1: Talk with your host, Ken Brew on news Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Yes yes, yes, we have to wait a week and

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 2: a day. But in a week, in a day, we

1384
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: get to college football playoff championship game. And it's in

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: or near i should say Miami, close to that University

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01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: of Miami campus. It figures to be a big time

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: in that town, no question about it. A lot of tourists,

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: a lot of fans, a lot of friends, a lot

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: of distractions maybe for the Miami Hurricane football team. They're

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: head coach Mario Christobaal was talking about that just as

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: the team returned home from winning that semi final game.

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Speaker 16: Well that's what we handle, you know, as coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 16: the bottom line is, there aren't any real distractions.

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Speaker 6: You either make.

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 16: Distractions, you create distractions for yourself, or you create intent

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Speaker 16: and purpose. And that's what we do. We're very regimented

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01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 16: in our schedule. We make sure that we kind of

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 16: get in that submarine and close the walls around.

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Speaker 2: This at whatever price or costs that is. This is

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: a very motivated group.

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Speaker 16: We know that we're going to have to be at

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01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 16: our best and we'll be playing the best team in

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Speaker 16: the country going in and it's.

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: Got to work. Man distractions distractions here, now, a man

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 2: who's never distracted from his job. In fact, he's one

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01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: of the finest college football writers in America. You can

1407
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: find him every single day on cbssports dot com. He

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01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 2: has a good guess of our program and any day, anytime,

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: then we could get Sheehan Hirajah on with us. We

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: know it is going to be a good day. And

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Speaker 2: here he is. Now, Seahan, how are you on this

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Speaker 2: glorious Sunday.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me.

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're back. You know, you lend perspective, a

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01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: real keen eye as to what transpires inside this country

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: with college football. I know Indiana is good. I know

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: Miami is good. I know if I had to choose

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: a team right now, it would be Indiana. But a

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Speaker 2: lot of time between now and game time, crystal Ball

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: this game for us just a little bit. What is

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: the one strength that Miami has that Indiana has to

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Speaker 2: be most concerned about.

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Speaker 13: It has to be their defensive line. I mean, they

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 13: have as good a task rush combination as there is

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Speaker 13: in college football. Rubin Bayne, the unanimous All American, kind

1427
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 13: of leads the way, but a key Mesodor is probably

1428
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 13: the better sort of straight up pass rusher on this team,

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01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 13: and the reality is like Indiana hasn't played a defensive

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 13: line quite like this to this point. Now, they played

1431
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 13: really good defenses.

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Speaker 6: Along the way Ohio State.

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Speaker 13: Of course that game against Oregon Alabama, But this is

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01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 13: a different kind of unit. I think that even you know,

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 13: you look at Miami's two wins, I think that their

1436
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 13: opponents were kind of overwhelmed by what their defensive line

1437
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 13: could do. So certainly, Indiana's offensive line is a strength

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01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 13: of the team. They they they brought back four starters

1439
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Speaker 13: from last year, and they have a unanimous All American

1440
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,799
Speaker 13: as well in Carter Smith. But this is a different kind.

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Speaker 2: Of units, Okay, and that's fair, I think it. I

1442
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: think it's I think it's a legitimate point. But I

1443
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: look at the Indiana offensive line and I see some

1444
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: really good talent, starting with Pat Coogan, the center who

1445
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: transferred in this will be his second college football championship

1446
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 2: in as many years. But tackle to tackle, Carter Smith,

1447
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: Drew Evans, I mentioned Coogan, Bray Lynch, A Janni, amaradaal

1448
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 2: they just seem like they are top to bottom along

1449
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: that line, just solid. How does that offensive line then

1450
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: compare to what you're talking about with the Miami defensive line.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that it matches up really well. And

1452
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 13: you mentioned, I mean four guys back on the roster

1453
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 13: from last year. I think there's been so much conversation

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01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 13: about transferring guys in, but not just in the end

1455
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 13: actually Miami as well. Both of these offensive lines are

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01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 13: primarily guys who have been in the program for multiple years. Again,

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Speaker 13: Pat Coogan, like you mention from Notre Dame coming in

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01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 13: the one transfer, and same actually with Miami center James Brockermeyer,

1459
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 13: who is the one transfer and also got some All

1460
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Speaker 13: American consideration as well. So you know, I think of

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Speaker 13: this unit's going to hold up really well. It's a

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 13: different kind of units than I think that Miami's seen

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 13: the past couple of weeks. Obviously, big strong old you know,

1464
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 13: four of the five players are red shirt juniors or higher.

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Speaker 13: But then also I think that you know, this is

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Speaker 13: this is a different kind of quarterback in Fernando Mendoza

1467
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 13: obviously somebody who's really good at using the pocket. But

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Speaker 13: you know, I think back to that Ohio State game

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 13: down here in Dallas, and one thing was, you know,

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Speaker 13: obviously I think that Ohio State's offensive line had some

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01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 13: issues against Miami's defensive line, but I don't think that

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Speaker 13: Julian saying the quarterback helped them out very much. You know,

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01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 13: I think that he was very statuesque in the pocket.

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Speaker 13: I think that Mendoza, the thing that he's kind of

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01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 13: proven these past couple of weeks is when there are

1476
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 13: those opportunities there to run, he's willing to take them.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it because this quarterback matchup is fascinating.

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01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 2: We all know the season that Mendoza has has had

1479
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: and I think, no, but he sees the field better

1480
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: than Mendoza. He's somebody that understands the concept of what

1481
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: Signetti is trying to do with this team very sharp.

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 2: I look at Carson Beck, who had a wonderful run

1483
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 2: at Georgia, maybe not as great as what he would

1484
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: have expected, but now here he is at Miami playing

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01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: in a championship game. He's older, He's twenty seven years old.

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01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just college football, perhaps in this day

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,440
Speaker 2: and age. But nevertheless, I look at both of these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You might have the next great quarterback in Mendoza in

1489
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: the NFL, and in Beck, you might have the most

1490
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 2: seasoned quarterback maybe in the history of college football. I'm

1491
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 2: just wondering, as you look at the matchup between those two,

1492
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: how do you see the strengths and weaknesses of each.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I think that you mentioned, of course, the experience being

1495
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 13: such a big thing for Carson Beck, and I will

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 13: say I will say I think his I think his

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Speaker 13: age has gotten a little loss in translation. He's actually

1498
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 13: twenty three, about to be twenty four.

1499
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: Looks like he's twenty seven. To me, he could be

1500
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 2: thirty four.

1501
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 13: I know, well, at least at least all we know

1502
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 13: to this point is that he's in his early twenties.

1503
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 4: But you know, he's somebody.

1504
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 13: Who, of course, like you mentioned, started two full seasons

1505
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 13: that Georgia had a ton of success, really had success

1506
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 13: right away. I think that in some ways the structure

1507
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 13: around him that Georgia let him down his second season

1508
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 13: more than he struggled. And I think that since he's

1509
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 13: come to Miami, he's been a really good player. And

1510
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 13: the thing that really stood out to me in the

1511
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 13: last game that they had against against Soul Myths was

1512
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 13: actually that I felt like you saw some of the

1513
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 13: growth that he had over the course of his second

1514
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 13: season at Georgia, where he started being more willing to

1515
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 13: run and take advantage of opportunities. You know, I thought

1516
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 13: that he did a great job of recognizing kind of

1517
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 13: game circumstance and things like that. So I mean, look,

1518
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 13: what with these quarterbacks. I mean, I think Mendoza right now,

1519
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 13: just with his accuracy, is just on another level right now.

1520
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 13: I mean, you see some of those back shoulder throws

1521
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 13: that he's made, some of those touchdown throws. You can't

1522
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 13: throw them better than what they've done.

1523
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 6: I also think that.

1524
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm agreeing with you one

1525
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: hundred percent on that. There's no question, go ahead.

1526
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, But you know, I think that the other thing too,

1527
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 13: is like I think that Carson Deck has had a

1528
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 13: more diversified passing portfolio over his three years than what

1529
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 13: Mendoz has been asked to do. So two really good players,

1530
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 13: two guys who I think will be playing in the

1531
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 13: NFL starting next season. But like you said, I mean,

1532
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 13: it's going to be fascinating how they respond to this moment.

1533
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: Three games I think this year for Beck kind of

1534
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 2: defined him in my mind. And you got to go

1535
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: back in early October. They're playing at Florida. They're playing

1536
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 2: at Florida State. Florida State was a top twenty five

1537
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: team back then, and they win twenty eight twenty two.

1538
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: He's twenty a twenty seven to forty one, four touchdowns,

1539
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: no interceptions. Follows that up, comes home to play Louisville.

1540
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: Louisville beats them at twenty four to twenty one. Beck

1541
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, four interceptions. Follows that up at home with

1542
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: a Stanford win forty two to seven, twenty one to

1543
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight, one hundred and eighty nine yards and a touchdown,

1544
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: no interceptions. So you saw in the Florida State game,

1545
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: great clunker and Louisville. How did he respond? He came

1546
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: back and played really well against Stanford. So I think

1547
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: he's proven that. I speaking of Beck again, I think

1548
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: he's proven throughout the course of this season that just

1549
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: because something goes off the rails for him or off

1550
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: the rails for his team, it doesn't necessarily affect him

1551
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 2: as a trend. Would you agree with that?

1552
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 13: So at one hundred percent agree, And you know, I

1553
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 13: go back to kind of this idea of him stepping

1554
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 13: up and doing the little things well and doing what

1555
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 13: he needs for receeve to win.

1556
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that when when they added.

1557
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 13: Carson Beckett to transfer. I mean, because let's remember last

1558
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 13: year they did the same thing with Cam Mood who

1559
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 13: went number one in the draft and put up four

1560
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 13: thousand yards. I think that people expected it to look

1561
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 13: like this, you know, expected to look like throwing for

1562
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 13: a ton of yards, run for a ton of touchdowns,

1563
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 13: being super productive. But like it hasn't for reasons that

1564
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 13: I think are also to do with how they change

1565
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 13: their offense and instead of you know, being a highly

1566
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 13: you know, a high volume player, I guess you could

1567
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 13: say they've asked them to be a precise player. And

1568
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 13: it's funny. I mean, I was, I was at the

1569
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 13: Cotton Bowl when they played in Ohio States. I don't

1570
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 13: think that people even realized, including myself, that he had

1571
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 13: completed thirteen straight passes for a Cotton Bowl record, right, Like,

1572
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 13: he just has done the little things so well. He's

1573
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 13: kept the team on schedule, he's allowed them to open

1574
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 13: up their running game as well. And I think again,

1575
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 13: like like, certainly I don't know that this was exactly

1576
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 13: what everybody had in mind when Carson Deck transferred to Miami,

1577
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 13: But I think that he's been even more important than

1578
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 13: people realize.

1579
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: Who has the advantage in this game when it comes

1580
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 2: to the run game. Because Miami obviously gets a lot

1581
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: of mileage out of its run game, Indiana has got

1582
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: that two headed threat. I'm just wondering. We talk about

1583
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and receivers so much, invariably a lot of these

1584
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: games come down to run game, take care of the

1585
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: ball and defense. Who has the advantage in run game

1586
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: as far as you're concerned.

1587
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 11: You know?

1588
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 13: And I think this is the moment in college football

1589
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 13: where a running backs have ironically become undervalued in some

1590
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,480
Speaker 13: ways at the college.

1591
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 6: Level at least.

1592
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 13: And I think that Miami has the better running back,

1593
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 13: but I think that Indiana has the better running game.

1594
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 13: And what I mean by that is Mark Fletcher for

1595
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 13: Miami has been just a revelation in the College Football Playoff,

1596
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 13: a huge performance for him against Texas A and M

1597
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 13: as they pull away, finished with over one hundred and

1598
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 13: seventy yards. He is an inside straight line runner, right

1599
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 13: like he is somebody who goes in, pushes his way

1600
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 13: through and keeps running. I think that that's going to

1601
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 13: be really valuable in a moment like this and it's

1602
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 13: worth pointing out one of Indiana's top defensive line and

1603
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 13: Steven Daily suffered a season ending injury after the Big

1604
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 13: Ten title game. Now they've managed to hold up anyway,

1605
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 13: but that's something to watch at least. The thing though,

1606
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 13: is that I think that Indiana has such a diversified

1607
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 13: stable of running backs that it makes it really really

1608
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 13: interesting going against the defensive line like this. The thing

1609
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 13: that I love about Roman hemby their number one back,

1610
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 13: is he, going back to his time at Maryland, has

1611
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,959
Speaker 13: been a player who has just broken so many tackles,

1612
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 13: and I think that Indiana's offensive line has created opportunities

1613
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 13: for him. Then he's taken full advantage of them. But

1614
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 13: they do have backs that can get outside. They do

1615
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 13: have backs that have breakaway speed.

1616
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 6: I think that that's.

1617
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 13: What I like about Indiana is that able to attack

1618
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,879
Speaker 13: you in different ways. But I mean, I think that

1619
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 13: that Mark Fletcher's inside run is just about as dangerous

1620
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 13: as any in college football.

1621
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: We're chatting with Shahan Jiaja. He is the college football

1622
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: guru at cbssports dot com, and we're talking about the

1623
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: championship game, obviously, which is still a week and a

1624
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: day away. The portal is open, and I'm sure you

1625
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: well know, since one of your areas of expertise is

1626
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, Brendan Soorsby might have been the most

1627
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: attractive player in the portal winds up at Texas Tech.

1628
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 2: Pretty solid payday, some habit between five and seven million.

1629
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: I don't know, We'll see, but the fact of the

1630
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: matter is he's gone, and I'm you know, Soorsby was

1631
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 2: kind of found money for UC. There was a transition

1632
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: period in Indiana. He didn't feel comfortable there. Comes to UC,

1633
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,879
Speaker 2: played well, had some trouble with man and man defense.

1634
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 2: They lost five in a last year. They lost their

1635
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: last five in a row this year. I'm just wondering

1636
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: at the University of Cincinnati that now has to replace

1637
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: the quarterback. I'm just wondering what that does to a team.

1638
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Does it turn a team like Texas Tech that had

1639
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: the best team money could buy? It would seem last

1640
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: year the Sowers be coming in there. Is it more

1641
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: seamless than what the University of Cincinnati is going through

1642
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 2: right now? It would seem like the University of Cincinnati's

1643
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: offense is going to get turned on top of its

1644
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 2: head now that Soresby is gone. Am I reading this

1645
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: the wrong way?

1646
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 13: No, I think you're right, you know, to talk about

1647
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 13: the text tech side of things. I mean, I think

1648
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 13: that Texas tech. You know, you saw them, of course

1649
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 13: in the last couple of games of the year in

1650
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 13: the college football playoffs. I mean, this is an offense

1651
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 13: that was very much based on big plays, and when

1652
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 13: they weren't able to create them, they ran into trouble.

1653
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 13: And I think that Brendan Soersby will be able to

1654
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 13: keep them on schedule at a much higher level than

1655
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 13: what Baron Morton did last year.

1656
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 4: Now, I think it's.

1657
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 13: Going to be interesting, right because they do bring back

1658
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 13: they're all three at their top running backs from twenty

1659
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 13: twenty five, but you know that they will have to

1660
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 13: break in some new pieces at receiver after.

1661
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 4: Losing a couple to the draft.

1662
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 13: But I think that what they liked about him, and

1663
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 13: by the way, like Thatch obviously was the program that

1664
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 13: got him, but LSU and Lane Kiffin really wanted running

1665
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 13: Sorsby as well. A lot of places had him rated

1666
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 13: the number one player in the portal, which you know,

1667
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 13: from my perspective, I thought that he was a high

1668
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 13: level quarterback. I was a little surprised he was number one,

1669
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 13: per se. But you know, I do think that that

1670
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,959
Speaker 13: he is going to be an immediate addition that allows

1671
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 13: text of sex to attack the field of different ways.

1672
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 13: When you talked about Cincinnati, I mean, obviously, Thorsby has

1673
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 13: been such a big part of their production the last

1674
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 13: two years, and I mean, this is this is I

1675
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 13: think it's always hard to lose your quarterback. It's always

1676
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 13: hard to lose your quarterback, especially what you didn't expect him.

1677
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 13: Well maybe you expect him to a certain extent, but

1678
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 13: when you didn't plan for him to go when the

1679
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 13: season started, and so no, I mean, I do think

1680
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 13: that this does throw things into turmoil a little bit.

1681
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 13: And this was a roster at Cincinnati that I think,

1682
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 13: you know, frankly, I think underperformed in the latter half

1683
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 13: of the year. I think that, you know, for them

1684
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 13: to start the way that they did and lose out

1685
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 13: the way that they did, I mean, it's disappointing to

1686
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 13: only get, you know, seven wins out of it. So

1687
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 13: I think this does really throw everything the termoil. I

1688
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 13: think that it and you know, sort of introduces a

1689
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 13: new era of Cincinnati football and we'll kind of have

1690
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 13: to see how this staff is able to handle it.

1691
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: This this quarterback that they've brought in here at Cincinnati

1692
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: from Georgia Southern. J. C. French the fourth. I mean,

1693
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: this is a guy that's thrown for over forty three

1694
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: hundred yards the last two seasons, and Georgia Southern was

1695
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 2: a winner at the Birmingham Ble this year. App State.

1696
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: But he's playing, he's been playing. He's been playing teams

1697
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: like app State, Old Dominion Marshall, And there's a little

1698
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: bit of a difference between that kind of competition and

1699
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: what he's going to face in the Big twelve. The comparison,

1700
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 2: I guess, not in talent, but perhaps in resume would

1701
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: be shambless. And what he's done at Mississippi. How much

1702
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: do you think competition transfers from a level like Shambliss

1703
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 2: and in this case JC French fourth to the next

1704
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 2: level Shambliss seems to have handled it very well. Is

1705
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 2: there that much of a difference between that level of

1706
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 2: football that French played the last two years and what

1707
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 2: he's going to play now in the Big twelve? Or

1708
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 2: does it not matter any more that much in college

1709
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 2: football because of the portal, and because talent abounds at

1710
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 2: so many different positions, either through the portal or through recruiting.

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01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 2: You follow what I'm saying.

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01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that I think that it's an interesting question, right.

1713
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 13: I mean, look, I think that Trinidad Chambliss is quite

1714
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 13: an outlier when it comes to transitioning up levels so seamlessly,

1715
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 13: you know.

1716
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 6: And and when you're talking about.

1717
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 13: Chamblis, I mean, Chambliss was obviously a player who was

1718
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 13: transcendent at his previous stop at Fair State. So you know, look,

1719
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 13: jac French coming in, He's a player that I really

1720
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 13: liked when he entered the portal. I thought that he

1721
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 13: was a Power Conference player. I think that it's a

1722
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 13: it's a nice get by Cincinnati.

1723
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 6: You know, it's going to be.

1724
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 13: An interesting transition.

1725
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 6: When he was playing.

1726
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 13: When he was playing at Georgia Southern, he obviously played

1727
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 13: in a very past happy offense. And for people who

1728
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 13: don't know, like Georgia Southern historically is a very option

1729
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 13: driven program. They've only really changed since Clay Helston has

1730
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 13: come in, and he is a very pass happy coach

1731
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 13: obviously dating back to his.

1732
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 6: Time at USC.

1733
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 13: You know, I think that French you saw some of

1734
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 13: the upside. I mean, he played pretty well in their

1735
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 13: game against USC earlier this year. You know, he threw

1736
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 13: for two touchdowns, he completed over half his passes. But

1737
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 13: you know, also I think that he had moments where

1738
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 13: he struggled. I think, you know, that old dominion where

1739
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 13: he really has to finished under a one fifty and

1740
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 13: an interception. Like I think that this is a situation

1741
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 13: where he is a boom or bus prospect. He is

1742
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 13: somebody who again has had highs and lows in his

1743
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 13: career at Georgia Southern, and I expecture that's going to

1744
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 13: be the case in the Big Twelve as well. I

1745
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 13: think they are gonna be moments where he goes out

1746
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 13: and probably loses some games. But I think that bringing

1747
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 13: a player who's thrown as many pass as he has, who's,

1748
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 13: you know, is as relatively efficient as he's been, I

1749
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 13: think that's a good get for Cincinnati and at least

1750
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 13: helps to keep the trains on schedule.

1751
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's all you can expect at

1752
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: this point. Hopefully he can come in and it may

1753
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: even be a different look for them completely on offense,

1754
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 2: he has a lot of the players, a lot of

1755
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: the receivers, a lot of the folks that sores Be

1756
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 2: work with on offense, they're losing a lot, They're losing

1757
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: some great offensive lineman. But nevertheless, the beat goes on.

1758
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't stop, because if you stop, everybody else in

1759
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: the portal keeps chugging right along. All right, Shehan, great stuff,

1760
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: good insight, and we'll enjoy the game together and hopefully

1761
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:06,719
Speaker 2: down the road we can do this again.

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01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks for what you for having me.

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01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is Shahans jar Roger. Yeah, the portal is.

1764
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't open at this time of the year,

1765
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 2: but I don't know what a good time of the

1766
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: year is for that to open. Maybe if it's all

1767
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: said and done, maybe after the last game, the College

1768
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 2: Football Championship game, maybe then open it. But honestly, I

1769
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 2: think losing Soresby is huge. Every UC fan knows that,

1770
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: even though he struggled down the stretch man and man defenses.

1771
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by French though, I am. I'm intrigued by

1772
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: the fact that he came from that kind of offense,

1773
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: and we'll see if that translates into a different look

1774
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 2: offensive late for UC. Who knows, don't know it's fitting

1775
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 2: the pieces together, and sometimes they don't always fit that well.

1776
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: Coming up on eleven thirty News Radio seven hundred WLW.

1777
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 17: NFL Playoffs, Let's Go DraftKings, sportsbook and official sports betting

1778
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 17: partner in the NFL makes every moment feel bigger in

1779
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 17: the postseason the game shit.

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Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW Welcome back on this Sunday. Tomorrow is Monday.

1781
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 2: I know that's breaking news. Tomorrow is also the day

1782
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 2: that FC Cincinnati players and coaches gather at the training

1783
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 2: facility in Milford, Ohio to begin the journey of the

1784
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six season. Yes, it is here already, just

1785
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: seems like yesterday. But and there will be four exhibition

1786
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 2: games and some tournament games, and then of course the

1787
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: MLS regular season. Then, of course the LS regular season

1788
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: will get flipped in twenty twenty seven, and that will

1789
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 2: turn Kevin Wallace completely around. Kevin Wallace is one of

1790
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: the hosts of the Wildly Popular since he postcast a

1791
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 2: podcast devoted entirely to FC Cincinnati. I think they've got

1792
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 2: another sort of podcast the group that does that, that

1793
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 2: also delivers a great amount of content with regards to MLS.

1794
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: But he's most important in the fact that he is

1795
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: the leader of the since He Postcast, and he is

1796
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 2: Kevin Wallace and he's with us right now to talk

1797
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 2: about the start of the twenty twenty six MLS season. Kevin,

1798
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 2: how are you on this glorious Sunday.

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01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 6: I'm doing great.

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01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 18: Ken the season it feels like it ends, but it

1801
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 18: never ends.

1802
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: It is the never ending story. It is the never

1803
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: ending story. Now, let me ask you a question because

1804
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm confused. But I'm confused easily, so can I very

1805
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 2: basic question. The name of your podcast is the since

1806
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 2: He Postcast, right.

1807
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 6: Correct?

1808
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay? But on Twitter are you are you known as

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01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: the since He post or post Sinsey? Because I have

1810
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,520
Speaker 2: trouble finding that sometimes.

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01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 18: Look, whoever came up with all of this and who

1812
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 18: knows who did that was not thinking about the end

1813
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 18: user in mind. So we have an outlet, the post

1814
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 18: since Y. We have written content. We actually have one

1815
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 18: paid writer. We're looking to add another paid writer this

1816
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 18: season to write during the course of the season. And

1817
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 18: that's the website. People can go there. And then the

1818
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 18: podcast that the post since He puts out is the

1819
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 18: sincey Postcast.

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01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'm still confused, but Nevertheless, it's called the

1821
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: since he postcast. Now Kevin tomorrow, they players gather, let's

1822
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 2: just talk about twenty twenty six and how the roster

1823
01:36:54,000 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: will look different. It's still a Denky E Vanders centric team, correct.

1824
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 18: Yeah, this team is built around Dan k Vander. The

1825
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 18: two of them had incredible individual seasons. Not a whole

1826
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 18: lot of interplay between them, but that is still the

1827
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 18: main focus of this roster build in this team in

1828
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 18: twenty twenty six.

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01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got den K, You've got a Vander.

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01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 2: Talk about the back line. I'm my Osca is still back.

1831
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 2: I think Haglan is back. But the back line always

1832
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: seems to go through injuries. There's always somebody hurt or

1833
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: somebody's hurt. What does the back line look like now

1834
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: that they've added Kyle Smith, A local kid kid, he's

1835
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: thirty three, a local guy who has spent his most

1836
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 2: recent professional career with the Orlando Football Club. What does

1837
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 2: Smith bring to the mix in that back line?

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01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 18: Yeah? I if folks enjoyed the play of Yu Yaku

1839
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 18: over the last few years he was he was known

1840
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 18: as our Swiss army knife. Wherever we needed somebody, you know,

1841
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 18: a backup player on the field.

1842
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 4: Yu Yakubo was usually that guy.

1843
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 18: I think it's there to imagine Kyle Smith as the

1844
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 18: sort of defensive yu Yakubo. He has experience at left back,

1845
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 18: at right back, at defensive midfield, and at center back,

1846
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 18: so I suspect.

1847
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 4: He will be.

1848
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 18: Featured whenever somebody else isn't able to go.

1849
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll.

1850
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 18: Be the first choice in any position, but.

1851
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 4: He may very well be the second.

1852
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 2: Choice in every position. Okay, this team last year it

1853
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 2: seemed like for long stretches was challenged in putting the ball,

1854
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: as they say in the back of the net. Why

1855
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 2: should that change this year or is it going to

1856
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 2: change much this year?

1857
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 18: So there's two things that you can sort of hang

1858
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 18: your hat on. So yes, obviously there were the struggles

1859
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 18: last year, but going into this year, we have Evander

1860
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:10,759
Speaker 18: and den Kay with a full preseason to work together.

1861
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 18: Obviously the rest of the offense will be there as well.

1862
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 18: But last year, Evander.

1863
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 11: Made it into the team like.

1864
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:22,759
Speaker 18: A week before the season started, and there really wasn't

1865
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 18: a moment to breathe to sort of reassess what they

1866
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 18: were doing. So I think having that time is going

1867
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 18: to be helpful. Last year, Luca Orshano struggled. He did

1868
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 18: not live up to his twenty twenty four self. He

1869
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 18: is no longer on the team, or at least expected

1870
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 18: to no longer be on the team. I don't think

1871
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 18: everything is official, but he is in Mexico right now.

1872
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 18: He has no intention of being with Cincinnati, and all

1873
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 18: of the rumors, all of our reporting at the Post

1874
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 18: suggests that Brian Ramirez from Ecuador will be his replacement.

1875
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 18: On paper, this looks like an upgrade, so I think

1876
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 18: you can get excited about that. And then the final

1877
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 18: point of optimism is and I think we mentioned this

1878
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 18: the last time we spoke on this program, is f

1879
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 18: Ccincnati made a change in offensive coordinator or whatever the

1880
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 18: equivalent is in soccer Dominic Kannear left the coaching staff,

1881
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 18: and Brett Utley, a coach who just won the MLS

1882
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 18: next Pro youth, you know, the second team league, joins

1883
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 18: the f C Cincinnati staff. He's seen as a bright

1884
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 18: offensive mind and somebody who might breathe some new life

1885
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 18: into this offense.

1886
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 2: And the guy from Ecuador is Brian Ramirez. Is that

1887
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 2: who's going to be Rishano's replacement. Was that his name

1888
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Brian Ramirez.

1889
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian Ramirez.

1890
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 18: He plays for ldu Qito. Folks might remember that is

1891
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 18: the former club of the now deceased Marco and Gulo.

1892
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 18: Sadly so an interesting f C Cincinnati there, but Ramirez

1893
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 18: in the South American Champions League the Copa Libertadores had

1894
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 18: tied in the leader of assists in that competition, which

1895
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 18: is a heck of an accomplishment for any team from Ecuador.

1896
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 18: He's gotten looks with the Ecuadoria national team. He's very,

1897
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 18: very good and naturally plays that position. Or Shawna was

1898
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 18: sort of transitioned to that spot, this guy has played

1899
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 18: it for a long time now.

1900
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So they train a week now beginning tomorrow in Cincinnati,

1901
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 2: then heads of Florida and they're down there, I think

1902
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 2: through February sixteenth. They're in Florida for a while. The

1903
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 2: eighteenth they have qualified for the CONCACAF Champions Cup Round one.

1904
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 2: So that is that's the first actual match of twenty

1905
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 2: twenty six and the opener in MLS is against Atlanta United,

1906
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 2: which I believe is at TQL on a S. It's Saturday,

1907
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: February twenty first, so we're within five weeks of Conca Calf,

1908
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 2: and we are also within about six weeks of the

1909
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 2: actual opener in MLS. This Ramirez guy, you think he'll

1910
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 2: be here by the time they dropped the ball here

1911
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: on on concor Calf.

1912
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 18: Look, I don't want to get anybody.

1913
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 2: In trouble, Nory, I will care. We don't care. But

1914
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 2: were we exceling getting people in trouble on the show?

1915
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 2: Go right ahead?

1916
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 18: Perfect, perfect, Well, I would just say, if you hear

1917
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 18: reports of a unnamed trialist in the preseason camp, it's

1918
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 18: probably Brian Ramirez.

1919
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Right, or a witness in a grand jury indictment, yes,

1920
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 2: because they would that would be the legal term. But

1921
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: the Ramirez guy sounds like he could be He could

1922
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 2: be pretty good. Okay, got that. Now on other things.

1923
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Speaker 2: So we're going to play MLS twenty twenty six. After

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, all hell breaks loose, right, there's going

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Speaker 2: to be like a mini season as they flip to

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Speaker 2: a schedule that mirrors the EPL. Can you explain that

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, So for a lot of the rest of the world,

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Speaker 18: not the entirety of the rest world, but for a

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Speaker 18: lot of the rest of the world. The soccer season

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Speaker 18: runs from roughly August until May, with usually some sort

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Speaker 18: of winter break or a couple of week hiatus somewhere

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Speaker 18: in the deepest, darkest parts of the winter, and Major

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Speaker 18: League Soccer has resisted doing this for some time, but

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Speaker 18: now they have reached the point where they think that

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Speaker 18: Major League Soccer will benefit tremendously from.

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Speaker 4: This switch, and it does a couple of things.

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Speaker 18: The two biggest things right away are this, It lines

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Speaker 18: up the buying and selling seasons with Europe and largely

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Speaker 18: with South America, which will help MLS teams in theory

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Speaker 18: acquire better talent cheaper. So right now MLS teams their

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Speaker 18: primary buying time is when the rest of the world

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Speaker 18: is not trying to sell players, so it makes it tricky.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 18: The other thing is, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 18: sports fans can appreciate this, Major League Soccer is currently

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Speaker 18: putting its playoffs and championship games up against college football,

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Speaker 18: the NFL, college basketball, you name it, the NHL, NBA,

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Speaker 18: you name it. They're fighting against it. If they can

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Speaker 18: put the playoffs in May, you're dealing with sure some

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Speaker 18: NBA playoffs and then very early season baseball and suddenly

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Speaker 18: Major League Soccer has sort of the most important games

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Speaker 18: going on in a lot of their markets during a

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Speaker 18: time of the year where the weather is generally perfect,

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Speaker 18: and it should create a better, cleaner playoff experience that

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Speaker 18: should have at least a little bit more of the

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Speaker 18: media limelight to itself. And I think MLS really wants that,

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Speaker 18: and I would say they really need that. They just

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Speaker 18: get buried under all the other sports right now.

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Speaker 2: But from a scheduling standpoint, what does that do? Because

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Speaker 2: I keep hearing there's going to be this mini season

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Speaker 2: before they actually get into that schedule change. Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that what's going to happen?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so you end up in this awkward spot where

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Speaker 18: you've decided, Okay, we're going to start the season in

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Speaker 18: the fall, so what do you do with that previous spring?

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Speaker 6: And other leagues.

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Speaker 18: Around the world have done this before. The MLS is

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Speaker 18: definitely not the first league to make this transition. So

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Speaker 18: there are a couple options on the table. One is

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Speaker 18: what Russia did actually a number of years ago, which

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Speaker 18: they did a really long season that was a year

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Speaker 18: and a half long. So rather than have a sprint season,

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Speaker 18: they just made the twenty twenty sixth season end in

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Speaker 18: May of twenty twenty seven. That would be the Rushian equivalent.

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Speaker 18: The other option is you do your normal season in

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Speaker 18: twenty twenty six as usual, and then you just come

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Speaker 18: up with some sort of mini tournament to cover that

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Speaker 18: period from yeah, roughly February to June or July, and

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Speaker 18: then you will start afresh, start anew.

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Speaker 4: In the fall of twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 18: They have not released.

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Speaker 4: A format for that.

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Speaker 18: My guess would be you play everybody in your conference

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Speaker 18: and then there's some sort of playoffs, but okay, I

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Speaker 18: don't know exactly what that's gonna look like.

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Speaker 2: Now, there'd be a break obviously from whatever that tournament was,

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Speaker 2: for maybe a month, month and a half, and then

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Speaker 2: you get into yeah, you get into Okay, you really

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have to train because you're just down for a month,

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Speaker 2: month and a half, couple of exhibitions, and boom, you're

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Speaker 2: back on your feet, right.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And that middle of the summer is usually reserved

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Speaker 18: for national team tournaments anyway. So this year, for example,

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Speaker 18: the World Cup will be happening in the US, but

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Speaker 18: you also have South American and European and African tournaments

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Speaker 18: that happen Asian tournaments that happen usually during those summer months,

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Speaker 18: so it makes a lot of sense to be taking

1999
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Speaker 18: a break anyway. F C Cincinnati fans know this struggle

2000
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Speaker 18: when say Miles Robinson or somebody else has to take

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Speaker 18: leave from f C Cincinnati for a long period of

2002
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 18: time to go play with the national team. This schedule

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Speaker 18: change should minimize, if not completely eliminate that problem.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, that explains it there, Kevin. That's why we

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Speaker 2: like you on the show. Well, keep our eyes open

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Speaker 2: for Brian Ramirez, anticipate Kyle Smith as everybody gathers in

2007
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Speaker 2: Milford tomorrow to begin the twenty twenty six preseason training

2008
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 2: and whatnot Again, The wildly popular since He postcast is

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01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: one of one of their podcasts, and on Twitter it's

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Speaker 2: called something completely different called what is it called again?

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Speaker 18: On Twitter, you can find us at the post sens.

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Speaker 2: Oh since the Okay, yeah, somebody was drinking that night.

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Speaker 2: And you've got another show that's totally dedicated to MLS

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Speaker 2: and that's called The Gam. Is that what it is?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: The World's gam World Soccer is known as the World

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Speaker 18: Gam or the World Game. MLS has a salary mechanism

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Speaker 18: known as gam. We're trying to be clever here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of like with your ex account. Okay, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: stay well, we'll be in touch. Tell Grayson and the chef.

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Speaker 2: We said hi, and the chef is now at Fred

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Speaker 2: Newton's House of Beans right in Westchester. Brent just opened up.

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Speaker 2: He's the head chef up there, am I right?

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Speaker 18: Uh yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think he's He might just be the Sioux chef.

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Speaker 18: I don't want to. I don't want to give him

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Speaker 18: too much.

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Speaker 2: Glory here because people have asked Kevin, you stay well

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Speaker 2: and we'll be in touch.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: There is Kevin Wallace from the Sincey Postcast, which is

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Speaker 2: also known as the Post Cincy on X. Okay, it

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Speaker 2: makes sense a lot of people listen to it. Coming

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Speaker 2: up at eleven fifty four News Radio seven hundred wlw

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Speaker 2: ough we're going to be so late for the concert.

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Speaker 2: We should be there by now.

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Speaker 6: Just need to make a little deep FMW two three

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Speaker 6: three BG, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Time is tight, it always is anyway. It was a

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Speaker 2: Riproarn show. I think we learned a lot. We'll see

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Speaker 2: about the Reds and adding a bat the Bengals who

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01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 2: now can concentrate on that tenth overall pick as well

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Speaker 2: as hopefully diving into the early part of free agency

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Speaker 2: and whether or not the game at Miami one week

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Speaker 2: from tomorrow night between the Hurricanes and Indiana is a

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Speaker 2: distraction from Miami. Now, it's great to be in it,

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Speaker 2: but when you have family members and friends and everybody

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01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 2: bugging you for tickets, maybe not so much. And of

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Speaker 2: course FC Cincinnati starting to practice and get ready for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth season tomorrow. Keep your eyes open

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Speaker 2: and your antenna up for all of that as we

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Speaker 2: stand up and salute the greatest country that God ever created,

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Speaker 2: and stand by for sterling on the home of your

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds seven hundred w LW, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: The Nation Station seven hundred wl and Pellow windows and

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Speaker 1: doors of Quater, Cincinnati. Honor our service men, women and America.

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Speaker 18: What kind of person can take two parents away from

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Speaker 18: such young children, and just two beautiful people away from

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Speaker 18: this earth?

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Speaker 19: This is the Noon Report. I'm Sandy Collins breaking. Now

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Speaker 19: we may have an answer to that thought. Please say

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Speaker 19: they now know who killed the Tepees Spencer from Mason, Ohio,

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Speaker 19: his wife Monique. They say it was Monique's ex husband,

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Speaker 19: Michael McKee. Who is he He's an Ohio State College

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Speaker 19: of Medicine graduate twelve years ago, a vascular surgeon now

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Speaker 19: working in Chicago, and he is sitting this morning in

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Speaker 19: the win Obago County jail facing murder charges.

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Speaker 20: Court records obtained by our affiliate WSYX show Monique was

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Speaker 20: married to McKee in twenty fifteen, divorcing in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 20: saying they were in compatible. The Tepee family releasing a

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Speaker 20: statement thanking law enforcement, writing in part, Monique and Spencer

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Speaker 20: remain at the center of our hearts, and we carry

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Speaker 20: forward their love as we surround and protect the two

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Speaker 20: children they leave behind.

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Speaker 19: That is Olivia Rubin now. McKee's car was tracked down

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Speaker 19: through flock cameras in Chicago, where he lives. He reportedly

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01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 19: works at OSF Saint Anthony Medical Center in Rockford, Illinois,

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Speaker 19: about ninety miles out of the city. His employer is

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01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 19: reportedly cooperating with authorities. McKee also went to high school

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Speaker 19: here in Ohio in Zanesville. He played football there at

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Speaker 19: the high school, earning an honorable mention all state honors

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Speaker 19: in his senior year. The only criminal record this man

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Speaker 19: has he is accused. The accused double murder has traffic

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Speaker 19: tickets and now a murder charges. Now the latest traffic

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Speaker 19: and weather together. No highway issues right now. That two

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Speaker 19: seventy five crash over by Eastgate is now gone.

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Speaker 15: We stay cold throughout our Sunday as temperature struggle to

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Speaker 15: reach the low thirties with mostly cloudy skies through the

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Speaker 15: evening and overnight hours. Those clouds will clear, temperatures fall

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Speaker 15: down to the low twenties when you wake up tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 15: We are back above average though on our Monday low

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Speaker 15: forties with some sunshine from a severe weather station. I'm

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Speaker 15: nine first warning meturologist Cameron Harden on news Radio seven

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Speaker 19: Sun and clouds out there right now, taking a look

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Speaker 19: at the temperature we've got about. Let's get an update

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Speaker 19: now twenty eight degrees at news Radio seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 19: News is a service of Coordinated Financial plan. There was

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Speaker 19: a carjacking this morning ending in a rollover. Had a

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Speaker 19: very wild, long and fast police pursue the driver running

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Speaker 19: from them and rolling that vehicle on seventy four.

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Speaker 4: Here's some of what we heard this morning. Not get

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Speaker 4: them out right now.

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Speaker 6: For one occupant on the ground, one.

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Speaker 4: He is complying, just waiting for the dog to come out.

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Speaker 19: After a car jacking on seventy one southbound at MLK,

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Speaker 19: Harrison Avenue. One person at least taken into custody. We

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Speaker 19: haven't received any other word from police. A crash near

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Speaker 19: New Richmond sent four people to the hospital yesterday morning.

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Speaker 19: The driver of a car went left of center hit

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Speaker 19: a car driven by twenty six year old Kyla Young.

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Speaker 19: She and a passenger were taken to the hospital with

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Speaker 19: minor injuries. The other driver, forty one year old Jesse Herndon,

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Speaker 19: and a passenger, Sally Patrick, are being treated as well

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Speaker 19: at UC Medical Center. They had serious injuries. Batavia troopers

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Speaker 19: are figuring out who is at fault there. Goubernatorial candidate

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Speaker 19: Amy Acton and running mate David Pepper are highlighting housing

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Speaker 19: affordability in their first public appearance together at a roundtable

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Speaker 19: in Bexley, outside of Columbus. Panelists shared stories of rising

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Speaker 19: utility bills and escalating costs that are driving young people

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Speaker 19: away from Ohio. Acton, who experienced homelessness as a child,

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Speaker 19: says that housing will be a top priority for her campaign.

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Speaker 19: The pair blames jerrymandering at the state House for allowing

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Speaker 19: corruption to take hold. Finally, Bob Weir of The Grateful

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Speaker 17: some of the band's biggest hits, including the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 17: classic Truckin'. The band released thirteen studio albums and dozens

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Speaker 2: Where was seventy eight?

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Speaker 4: I'm Jim Ford, I'm Sandy Collins.

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