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Speaker 1: Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, sponsored

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Speaker 1: in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili for

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Speaker 1: a three way or cheese cony today. Feeling good? It's

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Speaker 1: Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati sports station.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Do not adjust your dials. We're actually back.

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Speaker 2: We're actually here on air a full three hours. Wow,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Unbelievable ticket. Thank you to Kentucky basketball. A

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Speaker 2: couple wins in the SEC tournament and we don't get

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Speaker 2: to talk for three days.

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Speaker 3: That's Tony Pike. I'm Austin Elmore. This is Tony Pike's

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Speaker 3: Cincy three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: How nice is this just to be back to be

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Speaker 2: talking sports. I forgot what your voice sounded like. Three

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Speaker 2: full hours. That's right. We're not getting cut off by

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Speaker 2: a pregame show. We're not getting booted because of a game.

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Speaker 2: Well until Friday. Until Friday, when Kentucky plays their first

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Speaker 2: round game at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 3: They play pretty good when they play in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the day. Yes, so, man, they use our spot block.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is good news. Up against Santa Clara three

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Speaker 3: and a half point favorite. That's a small, small margin,

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Speaker 3: only three and a half. It's three and a half. Wow,

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Speaker 3: a small margin for the seven to ten game.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We're talking seating, we're talking march madness. We're

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Speaker 2: talking a tournament bracket which was revealed last night, and

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Speaker 2: now we get to sift through all of it. So

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Speaker 2: we're going to do a lot on this Monday, because

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Speaker 2: not only do we have to talk about the weekend Austin,

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Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic. Not only do we have to talk

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Speaker 2: about ten days away from Red's opening Day, we have

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Speaker 2: to talk about Matt McClain and what he's done right

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Speaker 2: now over the course of spring with six home runs.

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Speaker 2: We've got to get to all of that. We've got

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Speaker 2: a mock draft Monday. What else happened over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati big losers, Oh my god, And I think

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Speaker 3: Grand Canyon Mule up there on the natural grass at

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Speaker 2: Some might say, who was that f C Cincinnati played

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Speaker 3: Tough to find a win if you're the Dominican Republic

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Speaker 3: The World Baseball Classic on just a great call at

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Speaker 3: That's what Mason Miller did, and we sent the Dominicans home.

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Speaker 2: Packing the red, the white, the blue is on an

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I saw I just saw an Instagram post from show Heyotani,

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Speaker 3: Oh so they lost to Venezuela, and show Hey Otani

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Speaker 3: didn't get the results I wanted, and I feel my insignificance. Wow,

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Speaker 3: this is maybe the most popular athlete on the planet.

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Speaker 3: He's the best baseball player on the planet. He's the

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Speaker 3: Shoeo Tani. It was a relatable moment.

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Speaker 2: I think it goes though, to oh, how big the

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Speaker 2: and the World Baseball Classic championship game. But if you're

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Speaker 2: Albert Poolhols has said. Now Austin, Albert Poolhols has achieved

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Speaker 3: Julio Rodriguez said that as well. He said that meant

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Speaker 2: Yes, just an insanement. That's where this has kind of

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Speaker 3: David Bednar doing a lot of as Craft impersonations. Yep,

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Speaker 3: let me load up these bases and then get out

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Speaker 2: That's right. Junior Camon Arow, who had an unbelievable World

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Speaker 2: Team USA advances to to one. The World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 2: is a lot a lot of fun. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. There's a lot of college hoops news

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Speaker 3: Penny's back player from Alabama got arrested. Yes, yeah, drug possession.

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Speaker 2: Thad Mada, former Ohio State coach, Xavier coach, he's the

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Speaker 2: coach of Butler. He's retiring. Bad's hanging it up, Bad's

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Speaker 2: hanging it out. Oh Man. But Penny Hardaway is not

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Speaker 2: he's going back to Memphis. But we'll talk about the bracket,

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Speaker 2: talk about the Miami RedHawks and more as we get

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Speaker 3: By the way, we are doing a tournament challenge that's

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Speaker 2: This is simple.

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Speaker 3: I just retweeted the link. You can find it at

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Speaker 3: audio More. Hopefully Tony will I just did out as well.

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Speaker 2: I just did.

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Speaker 3: It's the Tony Pikes since the three sixty bracket challenge.

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Speaker 3: You click the link, you enter the pass code. The

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Speaker 3: pass code is Tony Pike's pass key, and we'll we

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Speaker 3: don't have a sponsor Pride. Here's no prize up for

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Speaker 3: this is love of the game. Love of the game,

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Speaker 3: doing it every year. Right now, we've already got I

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Speaker 2: When do you start filling a bracket out? Because I

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Speaker 3: I don't sit here and pretend to know everything about

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Speaker 2: That's a Dayton game on Wednesday, of course, I just

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Speaker 2: you know now Miami and SMU both eleven seeds. I

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Speaker 2: When we come back from our first break. Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Your voice? A little horse? It is a little horse weekend.

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Speaker 2: How'd it go? Man? It was awesome? You're feeling all right?

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. I was disappointed. I heard you were

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about Red's opening Day, and a whole lot

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Speaker 2: more this this time right now Austin. For the NFL

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Speaker 2: and NFL news is still happening right now. I believe

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Speaker 2: today the trade was announced that the Jets have traded

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Speaker 4: Hey, Google, what's happening to Predomo.

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Speaker 2: To the United States States? Tell you what? That's what

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Speaker 3: moved and they don't make the NCAA tournament. So it's

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Speaker 3: time to move on, and I think Wes will land

434
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: on his feet. I think he'll have opportunities. I think

435
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: it was really classy based off the reports, I don't

436
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: know that we've seen anything official yet that he and

437
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: the university are going to make this official after April first, yep.

438
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: And he's going to leave money on the table because

439
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: he wanted things to go amicably and to leave on

440
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Speaker 3: good terms. I think UC fans should be extremely appreciative

441
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Speaker 3: of that. I think the UC program should be extremely

442
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Speaker 3: appreciative of that, And I think that's a classy thing

443
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 3: to do. Wish it would have gone differently, but I

444
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: understand that if you are the program that you say

445
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: you are, and you want to be that program moving forward,

446
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: you just can't sell that to fans. You can't sell

447
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 3: that to season ticket holders, you can't sell that to donors,

448
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: you can't sell it to boosters, you can't sell it

449
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Speaker 3: to sponsors. That that's the guy we're going to move

450
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Speaker 3: forward with again. Yeah, and so for that reason and

451
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: winning being paramount, I think you have to move on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't really know what the direction

453
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: will be next. I know, at least too, I think

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00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: I like and I think it's the contingent of Bearcat fans.

455
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: The name Jared Calhoun has been thrown around a lot. Now.

456
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: Calhoun is a head coach at Utah State. They have

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Speaker 2: another conference title. They were seeded I thought very unfairly

458
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Speaker 2: as a nine seed. But Jared Calhoun was a graduate

459
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Speaker 2: from the University of Cincinnati in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 2: He coached on the staff under Bob Huggins for the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bearcats, and he has been extremely, extremely successful and

462
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: has done things at Utah State with very minimal resources

463
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: that it's hard to do in today's college basketball. He

464
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: is my number one, my number two, and my number

465
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: three After that, I think the list could get dicey

466
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: and Austin. That's the thing to me that makes this interesting.

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00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: I think Jared Calhoun is a home run. I don't

468
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: know how many doubles and triples are after him if

469
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: it gets to it, though. Yeah, right, I guess that's

470
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Speaker 2: that's the hard part.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like those one or two linebackers ye're

472
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Speaker 3: available in free man.

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00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: That guy is a home run grand slam. The guy

474
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Speaker 2: next might be a single, might be all. I haven't

475
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Speaker 2: dove into it as much because for me, it's Calhoun

476
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: or bust right now. You got to go big if

477
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: you're John Cunningham and the University of Cincinnati. Or what

478
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: we could do is we go today Austin. We could

479
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: throw out names of coaches that you just got to

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00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: make say no, Well, I'm not gonna lie to you.

481
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Speaker 3: The went over to our friends at Bearcat Journal, yea

482
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Speaker 3: and checking out the board and some of the names

483
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Speaker 3: that are on there. By the way, I mean Chad

484
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: and Keegan in those guys, this is good for this

485
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: is good for business for them when it comes to

486
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Speaker 3: a coaching change.

487
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: Careful though, because he's talking about the World Baseball Classic

488
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: last night and sending out photos and people are thinking

489
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: that that's because you see like they're zero in our coach. Really,

490
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: he's just talking about Aaron Judges' throat.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's going on with Keegan is this is a

492
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: brilliant social media strategy. Keegan's a blue check mark guy,

493
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: much like myself, and there's money to be made on

494
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Speaker 3: that channel. And if you understand what your audience wants

495
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: and what they are looking for, you can tap into

496
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: that a little bit while also, you know, being very straightforward.

497
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: And to Keegan's credit, he said, I promise I won't

498
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: do cryptic tweets about UC's coaching shirt search. That's Chad

499
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: Brindle's job, and he doesn't do it for free, but

500
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: can understands that where he's at right now, you can

501
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: you can make a few bucks on social media if

502
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: you tap into it in the right way. Let's although

503
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: it's freaking hard now thanks to Elon, he keeps making

504
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: it harder on us.

505
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: Just try and try, try and pay him a bills.

506
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Speaker 2: Then let's have some three as we go today. Let's

507
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: just randomly throw out some head coaching names that the

508
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Speaker 2: Bear Catch should make. Say no, Okay, Billy Donovan, that's

509
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: a heck of a start. Make Billy Donovan say no.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with Dave. Billy Donovan. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more of David phone calls in berg A lot

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Speaker 2: coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, Cincinnati Rags, de Bear God.

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Speaker 7: defensive third basement in baseball, but some say the Reds

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Speaker 7: might have the best defensive player in baseball because key

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Speaker 7: Bryan Hayes might be both. Hayes won the National League's

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Speaker 7: Gold Glove Award for third baseman last season after splitting

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Speaker 7: the year between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. In his two months

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Speaker 7: with the Reds, he often showed off his excellent defensive form,

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Speaker 7: and for the fourth time in five years, Hayes led

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Speaker 7: all third basemen with nineteen defensive runs saved. The Reds

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Speaker 7: won't be asking Hayes to do a ton with his back,

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Speaker 7: but he did hit fifteen home runs for the Pirates

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty three, and for what it's worth, he

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Speaker 7: did homer in his Red State U last July. Meet

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Speaker 7: Red's third Baseman. Keep Bryan Hayes.

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Speaker 6: For more player profiles, keep it here on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: It's Mad Bowen here from Lost Culture. iHeartRadio station. All right,

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Speaker 2: welcome back, ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm just gonna start throwing

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Speaker 2: out names all right now, Kelvin Samson, Mike Brown, every

536
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: time they the Bearcats, raising about UC basketball and the

537
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: heritage in the history here, Kelvin Samson, make him say no.

538
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: Richard Patino? Okay, now, I think you'd start with Rick.

539
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you say, okay, Rick, how much respect can

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00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: you really get in the Big East. You just won

541
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Speaker 2: the conference outright, and you won the conference tournament. You

542
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: beat Yukon two out of three times. Yukon's a two seed,

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Speaker 2: and Rick you're a five seed? Yeah, you know where

544
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: you won't be a five seed? Come and win the

545
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Big twelve? Do you make Rick Patino say no? Can

546
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: you imagine Rick versus Richard in the shootout? I would

547
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 2: love it. I bet money on Richard. Oh boy, Now

548
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: if you do look at some of the message boards,

549
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: there are legitimate folks out there Austin that are adding

550
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: to these message boards. You got to make Bobby Hurley

551
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: say no. Bobby or Danny Dan Well both Bobby's unemployed

552
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: right now too, Dan Hurley, I would start with Dan.

553
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: So Dan two seed at Yukon has turned down multiple

554
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: NBA jobs, the Los Angeles Lakers being one of them. Now,

555
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: Dan noted die Hard Bengal fan, former ruler of the Jungle.

556
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Can Joe Burrow Jamar Chasing Company make a pitch to

557
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: Dan Hurley to get him to be the head coach

558
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: of the UC Bearcats. And if so, do you then

559
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: have to make Dan say no twice?

560
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: The Bearcats were very close to landing Joe Burrow all

561
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: those years ago, and I mean, I think if you see,

562
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: we're smart, they'd reach out to their former offensive coordinator

563
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor. That's right, And I'm sure there are still

564
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: plenty of friends. You know, the Bengals. Oh, U see

565
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: a favor for all those years of using the practice bubble.

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00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: You're right, So maybe to the Bearcats and a steak

567
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: in the Bengals and.

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00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: You guys put a package together to help us get

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Speaker 3: dead Hurly.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

571
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Speaker 3: If John Cunningham were smart, and I believe he's a

572
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: smart man, he would at least consider something like that

573
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: knock on the door. I'm not kidding, by the way,

574
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: what about Like I'm not even being facetious, I'm not

575
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: being a smart ass, Like, I'm dead serious. If you're

576
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: serious about turning the program around, you should spare no

577
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: expense to try to get your guy.

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00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: Let me throw you, let me throw a couple more

579
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Speaker 2: names at you, Bruce Pearl, No, thank you, I mean,

580
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Speaker 2: Bruce has made himself look terrible on these selection shows.

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Speaker 2: What about Jay Wright? Jay Wright, maybe he's got the itch?

582
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Speaker 2: What about Sean Miller? What about Chris Mack?

583
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't Now, I'm not interested in Sean Miller because

584
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Speaker 3: you want to talk about being a pain in the

585
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: ass in the post game, he'd make Wes Miller look great.

586
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't like Sean Miller. Can you imagine what the

587
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: rivalry they'd probably make and Xavier as if it's mac.

588
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: Sean Miller would probably make Dan and Terry go upstairs

589
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: and they make him call him on the phone after

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Speaker 3: the games.

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: All right, I like our hot board we got together

592
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: right now. I mean this is a scorching, scorching board

593
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: we have right now. And of course, you know a

594
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Speaker 2: lot of these coaches are are in the NCAA tournament Austin,

595
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Speaker 2: so maybe you got a little bit of time.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of UC fans say, well, half

597
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: the city's already named Calhoun up there in Clifton.

598
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: It's kind of a natural fit for What about what

599
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: about Travis Steele?

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Speaker 3: Okay, sure, huh? What about he's got deep pockets?

601
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: What about Deebs? I'm sure, he's getting a lot of interest.

602
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: What about a guy with Cincinnati ties, especially on the

603
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Speaker 2: West side, Pat Kelsey at Louisville.

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Speaker 3: Do you think if you see, could give Travis Steele,

605
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: like a couple more variations of that Cadillac hat that.

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Speaker 2: He where Now we're talking maybe now we're talking that hat?

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00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: What about what about Kelsey at Louisville? Sure? Why not

608
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: make the call? Yeah? I mean the ACC stinks.

609
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they doubled their number of bids this

610
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: year from last year, but still they still stink.

611
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to play us F in round one?

612
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: I mean, really, do you think John Schier forever just

613
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: wants to be under the Mike Krzyzewski umbrella? Do you

614
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: think he wants to branch off? Well, let's move on

615
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: Mike Krzyzewski. What's he doing?

616
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: Great question? What about Roy Williams? He's already you cats.

617
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: He's a big West Miller guy.

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Could you imagine we people were freaked out for

619
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Speaker 2: a long time that Hubert Davis wasn't going to pan out?

620
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Speaker 2: What about getting Hubert from North Carolina? Uh No, I

621
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Speaker 2: don't know that. I want that you think ISO really

622
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Speaker 2: wants to retire? A Sparton. Yes, okay, what about Matt's

623
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Speaker 2: name is on the football facility? What about Matt Painter?

624
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is? Perdue, you know what

625
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: that wants to get. Fran McCaffrey. Oh, he's back in

626
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: the dance, you know. I bet on's out. Mark Fiel, Oh,

627
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's got to be tired against Saga. Right,

628
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure go somewhere else, aultivate a program.

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Speaker 3: You gotta worry about the hurricane or the earthquakes out there.

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00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Here's here's what we're getting at. There's plenty of names

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Speaker 2: out there. Go knock on some doors, make people say, no,

632
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: what are we waiting for? Jared Calhoun? He's he's playing

633
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament. He's coaching. Yeah, well he might

634
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: be playing as well. But you get what I'm saying

635
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: is you got time. You at least got a week here.

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00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: Let's go through. Let's go through some of this. What

637
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: about Mark de Rosa. What's Tubby Smith doing these days?

638
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no. This notes

639
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: might one out Alabama after his second leading scorers got

640
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: a pound of weed on him.

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Speaker 3: This, this might sound crazy, this might sound crazy, but

642
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: no no, no, no, hear me out, John cal Perry,

643
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Speaker 3: coach Cal. Coach cal wanted to come to Ohio State.

644
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Speaker 3: Ohio State didn't have a lot of great decision makers

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: up there when it comes to basketball. Okay, okay, I

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Speaker 3: mean I am I nuts on that. No, I mean no,

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Speaker 3: he just won the SEC. Only took him a couple

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Speaker 3: of years at Arkansas. I know he's been known to

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Speaker 3: get a wild hair now and then, man, he is

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Speaker 3: who's the guy from the Reds that he is? It

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Speaker 3: is he like related to TJ Friedel or something? Wasn't

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Speaker 3: there a story about that. There's something there, there was

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Speaker 3: some sort of relation. There's something there.

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Speaker 2: Coach cal likes the Reds. He's been known to go

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Speaker 2: to the Reds fan who right now? And I'm not

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Speaker 2: even I'm not this is the best I love this.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even trying to be annoying. What's the best

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Speaker 2: job open right now? I don't know what jobs are open?

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Speaker 2: All right? You see okay, Arizona State, No, Syracuse. Is

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Speaker 2: Syracuse still that good of a job. Yeah, I'd say

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Speaker 2: it's probably a Boston College, Georgia Tech Provident. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no. So you've got with the big twelve ties

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Speaker 2: and a good foundation of money support to the nil.

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Speaker 2: With those things alone, it's not like it's not a

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Speaker 2: job people would want, didn't. I see UNC Greensboro as open. Well,

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Speaker 2: that might be closed for West rather very soon.

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's coming back. Yeah, kind of like

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Speaker 3: a Sean Miller Zavier thing. Yep, but interesting. I think

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Speaker 3: you see your Syracuse is the top job available. And

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Speaker 3: if you're looking at the big twelve and the dollars

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Speaker 3: that the university has spent, sure it's not a bad job.

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Speaker 2: So swing for the fences. If you're John Cunningham, clip

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Speaker 2: that segment so we can send that down to the

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Speaker 2: university so they can get a hot board together. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they're listening, so they can get a list together.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back. Let's grab a

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Speaker 2: couple of phone calls to finish out the hour. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about the NCAA tournament. We've got Bengals reds and

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Speaker 2: so much more between now and three o'clock on this

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Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals, ESP fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports

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Speaker 2: Station WC. Welcome back, it is since he three p sixty.

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Speaker 2: We're back on the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take some phone calls, which means Austin the

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Speaker 2: first time since Tuesday and we've had a chance to

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Speaker 2: talk to any callers. Let's take some calls. We'll parlay

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Speaker 2: that into the NCAA tournament conversation to kick off the

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Speaker 2: second hour before we get the talkbacks, Randy is calling in.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Randy?

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Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys doing man?

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Speaker 2: Good? Great?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 8: Hey? Do you have enough faith or do you have

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Speaker 8: any faith in Cunningham to make the right decision on

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Speaker 8: this hire based on his past hirings. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 8: he brings in Wes Miller from a mid major school.

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Speaker 8: Now everybody's throwing out Jared Calhoun's name. He's a mid

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Speaker 8: major cook. The situation that you see basketball is in

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Speaker 8: right now, you need a big name to come in

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Speaker 8: and turn this around. I mean, they've been set back

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Speaker 8: five six years now, Tony and a mid major coach

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Speaker 8: just isn't gonna do it. You need a big name

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Speaker 8: to get in here. And I don't have enough confidence

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Speaker 8: in knowing that are Yeah, the ad that.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna make the right choice, Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 2: what makes this difficult is there's just not the track

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Speaker 2: record there now. I will say I do think he

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Speaker 2: got it right with Jordan Bischel. Jordan Bischel and you

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Speaker 2: see baseball right now fourteen and five one of the

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Speaker 2: best Big twelve teams, if not the best Big twelve

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Speaker 2: team playing right now. But outside of that, Katrina Merriweather

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Speaker 2: and the women's basketball program, I think the jury is

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Speaker 2: still out with Scott Sadderfield. There are a lot of questions,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's a fair concern when you're going

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Speaker 2: into now an extremely important higher, not just for you

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Speaker 2: see basketball, but for the future of this program as well,

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Speaker 2: because you're in a very delicate spot right now where

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Speaker 2: you don't want to be the bottom part of the

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Speaker 2: Big twelve going forward. You've got to get yourself back

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Speaker 2: up into the conversation. This coaching Higher is going to

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Speaker 2: be a big part of that. There's just so many

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Speaker 2: questions I have with the Higher itself. But I think

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Speaker 2: it's a fair criticism at this point to wonder.

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Speaker 8: That, yeah, because I mean, I just don't have confidence

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Speaker 8: in the guy based on the hires so far as

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Speaker 8: far as the football and the basketball team's team has gone.

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Speaker 5: And again.

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Speaker 8: You know Jared Calhoun. Okay, great, you know your tall

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Speaker 8: value wherever Necky is it's a mid major school.

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Speaker 3: You need a.

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Speaker 8: Proven guy in here. And you know, whether you can

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Speaker 8: law one of these big name coaches here or not,

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Speaker 8: that's yet to be seen. But I just think you

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Speaker 8: need a name to come in here that's going to

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Speaker 8: draw the recruits in and get the fan base back

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Speaker 8: on board with this thing. Tony. I just don't have

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Speaker 8: faith in Cunningham that he's going.

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Speaker 5: To do that.

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Speaker 8: I really don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fair. Randy, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: the phone call. Have a great day. You know, Austin.

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Speaker 2: I think there is a sum of that out there.

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Speaker 2: There should be. You should be skeptical and and I

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Speaker 2: get the pushback of Okay, Utah State. Do you go

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Speaker 2: get a proven guy that's done it at a high level.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where you got to trust how you go

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Speaker 2: about the hiring process. You know, remember the was it

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Speaker 2: Corey Evans the GM we talked so much about before

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Speaker 2: the season. What's his role in this? You know? And

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Speaker 2: one thing I'll push back on Randy on I think

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Speaker 2: Wes Miller got some good players here to Cincinnati Dylan

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Speaker 2: Mitchell is an All Big East player for Saint John's

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Speaker 2: who just won the regular season and the and the

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Speaker 2: tournament for the Big East at Saint John's. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of players that are doing a lot

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Speaker 2: of good things. I think Wes got good players here.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think they fit together and I don't

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Speaker 2: think he can coach them. But it is that that's

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Speaker 2: an interesting dynamic as we go down this stretch. Mark

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I got two things. I need Tony Pike to

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Speaker 5: make it make sense. How the Orlando Brown get a

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Speaker 5: two year contract extension after what we've seen the past

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Speaker 5: couple of years, Yeah, can you can you? I was

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Speaker 5: scratching my head after I saw that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was a surprise to me, essentially because

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Speaker 2: the last time we spoke last week, we talked about

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Speaker 2: Orlando Brown junior kind of be in the weak spot

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Speaker 2: on that offensive line and if you do enough in

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Speaker 2: the offseason, can you attack offensive line with pick number

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Speaker 2: ten potentially? And then to see that extension, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was the same way. I was a little bit puzzled

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Speaker 2: by it as well. But I believe Austin By and

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Speaker 2: I don't have it in front him, but I believe

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Speaker 2: they freed up some cap space with the extension as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that I think is the biggest thing is he's

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Speaker 3: not overly expensive at that position. I think he's seventeenth

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Speaker 3: among left tackles when it comes to the average annual

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Speaker 3: value for him. It basically kicks the can down the

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Speaker 3: road in terms of fire his replacement. And when you

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Speaker 3: have other needs in the draft that you didn't address

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Speaker 3: in free agency, instead of spending a pick on a

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman or a tackle, Dave decided, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: we'll get one more year of Orlando Brown junior and

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Speaker 3: maybe address that down the line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, one one last thing with UC basketball. I

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Speaker 5: had this bad feeling when they let Hugs go, But

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Speaker 5: I thought Mick Cronin did a pretty good job. Agreed,

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Speaker 5: but it never seemed it never seemed like to me

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Speaker 5: that he was embraced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that was one of the most difficult

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Speaker 2: jobs to take at that time because Bob Huggins was

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Speaker 2: so beloved beloved by the fans of Cincinnati that it

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Speaker 2: felt like whoever got the job next it was going

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Speaker 2: to be impossible shoes to fill. And Mick Cronin had

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Speaker 2: a lot of success here, but I think so many

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Speaker 2: people were still just so fresh to the idea of

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Speaker 2: Bob Huggins not being there that it made it a

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Speaker 2: very hard coach to follow.

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Speaker 5: Could it Is there a chance that they could bring

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Speaker 5: Mike Cronin back? And I'll get off and listen to.

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Speaker 2: Your answer, Mark, I appreciate it, Thank you. Would that

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Speaker 2: be one of the names, Austin, if you're John cunning,

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Speaker 2: hand of your at least reach out to probably, I mean,

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Speaker 2: guys went to a final four. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: you reach out to it, but you have internal conversation.

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Speaker 2: At least someone at least has to bring it up

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Speaker 2: some consideration. Someone at at the table's got to at

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Speaker 2: least bring it up. Yeah. Uh, one more quick here

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Speaker 2: before we forget it. Break.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Mick is very happy. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 3: like la. I also would say, I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: very happy in general. I think he's just kind of

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Speaker 3: a curmudgeon, but sometimes that works.

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Speaker 2: True on this book. Let's get a break. We'll finish

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Speaker 2: up these phone calls when we come back and talk

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Speaker 2: about the NCAA tournament as well. Thanks to our friends,

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Speaker 2: here at Skyline and now number one on ESPN fifteen

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