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Speaker 5: Just an FYI, the seeds and julapeno peppers and other

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Speaker 5: peppers have nothing to do with how hot they are.

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Speaker 5: The intense heat caused by a compound called capsaicin is

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Speaker 5: concentrated in a white, spongy membrane or placenta inside the pepper,

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Speaker 5: which holds the seeds. While seeds may seem hot, they

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Speaker 5: are only coated in capsaicin from contact with this membrane.

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Speaker 5: learn more from Paul Charchi and out in Utuh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a thing.

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Speaker 1: Charge that's not cool. I was. I was under the

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Speaker 1: impression I had never eaten placenta. It was offered to

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Speaker 4: And I'm pared like.

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Speaker 4: Is offered placenta for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Here's how it went down. I believe this is tenth grade,

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Speaker 1: ninth grade eating Prairie High School. Okay, science teacher was

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Speaker 4: I was not, though, among those.

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Speaker 1: Who elected to eat these science teachers placenta.

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Speaker 5: Was curious and uh rudderless, and you know, emotionally immature.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there were just so many things that that

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Speaker 1: Well, eating placenta, well now in retrospect, at the time,

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well it sounds like it weighs on your mind.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a person. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's one of yours. How you doing, my friend,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you for asking. Would would prefer

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think there there if there is a

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Speaker 1: the mistake. And I when I was in last Monday,

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Speaker 5: Well, is there any aspect I mean, are we just

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So first, and I feel like this show does

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Speaker 1: as general manager. The obvious one, of course, was the drafts.

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Speaker 5: very excited for Rob Razinski and what this, this whole

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Speaker 5: You know, is there a governor in terms of how

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Speaker 5: The one thing though, that pops in my head is

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Speaker 5: me there there's just there's no way I can ever

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I haven't seen any of that. I have

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Speaker 1: not seen anybody suggests that firing Quaycy automatically makes this

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Speaker 1: was a damaging blow for Quacy. Yeah, and Koc may

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Speaker 5: And just seeing reporting on potential tensions that may or

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Speaker 5: bunker somewhere in Utah. And nine to noon continues on

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Speaker 5: Charchie and joining for a couple more segments here, and

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Speaker 5: let's just let's dig into a charch It's the QB

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Speaker 5: that we had Sam Donald facing, the QB that we

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Speaker 5: all wanted in the draft a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: Drake May, what what excites you most about Sunday's game?

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Speaker 1: Well, plenty there is. I think the Sam Donald redemption

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Speaker 1: arc is nothing short of fascinating. Yeah, I think for

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Speaker 1: reasons you know, every all of your listeners already know

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Speaker 1: the angle on this that I find really interesting is

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Speaker 1: how will Mike Rabel attack the Seahawks. What's the weakness

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Speaker 1: that you go for, because this is a quote he does,

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Speaker 1: a Dan Barrero quote. Team without a weakness. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is a team that finished an offense. They finished third

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Speaker 1: in yards and first in points scored. On defense, they

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Speaker 1: were first in points allowed, they were sixth in yards allowed.

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Speaker 1: There's you know, they were a good run offense. They're

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Speaker 1: a good passing offense. They're a good run defense, they're

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Speaker 1: a good pass defense. There's just not obvious angles with

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Speaker 1: which to attack the Seahawks. And I don't know that Mike.

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Speaker 1: As much as as much as an amazing job Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel has done and as good as Drake may is

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Speaker 1: and is going to be, I don't, man, I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know where you come up with the

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Speaker 1: spots to attack the Seahawks Nordo, And that, to me

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Speaker 1: is is why I think the Seahawks are going to

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Speaker 1: win the things. They just they just don't have an

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Speaker 1: obvious weakness in what they do offensively or defensively.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's kind of crazy. Over the course of

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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 5: I mean you can look, okay, look at the two

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Speaker 5: Rams matchups, in particular, Matthew Stafford and the Rams McVeigh

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Speaker 5: and company. He threw let me see here in there,

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Speaker 5: while the first one, I mean, he struggled and they

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Speaker 5: get out alive with the win. The Rams do, but

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Speaker 5: Stafford throws for a buck thirty. But then in that

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Speaker 5: Thursday Night thriller he goes for four fifty seven. He

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Speaker 5: went for three sixty five. In the NFC title game.

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Speaker 5: You can kind of look, Okay, well that means and

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Speaker 5: I do feel like, and I'll explain maybe when we

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Speaker 5: get to prop Bets.

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Speaker 1: I think Diggs is going to have himself a game.

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Speaker 5: But outside of that, Baker got him early in the season,

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Speaker 5: and other than that, it's like two thirty the most

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Speaker 5: passing yards they allowed otherwise. So it's just it's ridiculous

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Speaker 5: how evenly matched they are, specifically on the defense, where

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Speaker 5: it's like, okay, just get Traveon Henderson and Remandre moving.

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Speaker 5: Actually they deal with that pretty well, and they forced

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Speaker 5: turnovers and both Romandre and Travion have coughed it up

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Speaker 5: a couple of times. Oh no, we can just get

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Speaker 5: it through the air like Stafford did. Oh wait, well,

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Speaker 5: you don't have Pooka and Stafford. You got Drake and Booty.

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Speaker 5: So it's uh, it is in some ways a team

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Speaker 5: without a weakness. But do you appreciate in any respect

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Speaker 5: the idea that Vrabel Josh McDaniels did. How much do

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Speaker 5: you weigh into the idea? Well, we've been there and

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Speaker 5: done that. You consider that at all?

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh McDaniels is the secret sauce here. I

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Speaker 1: mean you you want you know, he's got Super Bowl pedigree. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know this is not going to be the Moment's

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Speaker 1: not going to be too big for Josh McDaniels, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure. He has guided this offense tremendously this season.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you ask me who's got the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff advantage, boy, it is.

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Speaker 4: It's tough.

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Speaker 1: Right. So Seattle's got Mike McDonald who has been fantastic

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Speaker 1: since he got there, and a Coach of the Year

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Speaker 1: candidate this year. He got Clint Kubiak, who's going to

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Speaker 1: be the Raiders head coach as your offensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: in New England they got Mike Rabel, who I believe

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Speaker 1: last night he did win Coach of the Year. Correct, Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right about that no, he did win. He did.

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels and Troll Williams is a defense corner is

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Speaker 1: really good too, and consider an up and coming guy.

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Speaker 1: So this is a this is a It is just

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Speaker 1: two fantastic coaching staffs, and I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: can I don't know. For me, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I can point to one and go, well, the obvious

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Speaker 1: coaching advantages here, but I feel like Josh McDaniels is

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Speaker 1: the secret X factor, just given all the experience that

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Speaker 1: he's got and the way he has elevated this Patriots

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Speaker 1: offense as one of the worst last year to one

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Speaker 1: of the best this year. To me, just an amazing

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Speaker 1: job by Josh McDaniels, who otherwise I struggle to say

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Speaker 1: good things about Josh McDaniels, but I think you have

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Speaker 1: to give him a ton of credit here.

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Speaker 5: You do now With that said, Seahawks attacking the Patriots

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Speaker 5: offensively with I think Zach Charbonay being out of the

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Speaker 5: mix that hurts them. Now in a single game, maybe

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Speaker 5: it doesn't, but him with the knee being out of

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Speaker 5: the mix, in the way that they mixed and matched

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Speaker 5: Sharbonay with Ken Walker over the course of the season

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Speaker 5: was terrific, and that was you know, that run game,

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Speaker 5: something we dream of here to help support a young QB.

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Speaker 5: That's what they're doing with Sam. But Sam attacking this secondary.

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Speaker 5: It does feel, and I was talking with an analyst

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Speaker 5: earlier just kind of a very ball hawkish secondary at

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Speaker 5: times that there really is an opportunity for Sam, like

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Speaker 5: we're talking like feasting with some chunk plays potentially specifically

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Speaker 5: having Jackson Smith and Jigba in there.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to Kenneth Walker and Zach Scharbona, all right,

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Speaker 1: and you and I are going to differ on this. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was a one two punch and a successful one

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Speaker 1: all season long with Kenneth Walker Zach Sharbonay, which they

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Speaker 1: did intentionally because Kenneth Walker breaks down constantly, right, So

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Speaker 1: I believe that it was one of these situations where

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald Klint Kubiak said, if we think we're a

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Speaker 1: playoff team, and it became apparent pretty early they were,

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Speaker 1: we need Kenneth Walker to be available and healthy in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. How do we do that, Well, We're going

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Speaker 1: to give put him into basically a fifty to fifty

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Speaker 1: time share with zach Scharbonay. But here's the difference. Kenneth

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Speaker 1: Walker at full health is one of the five six

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Speaker 1: best running backs in the league. He is special, fast,

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Speaker 1: hard to tackle, elusive. He's really good, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's widely recognized as sort of that level of

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Speaker 1: running back in Parks. He's hurt all the time, and

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Speaker 1: they keep monitoring his work. So then when Sharmon Ay

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Speaker 1: does go down, Kenneth Walker's but a freaking beast getting

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Speaker 1: all the carries, and you know, people I think are

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Speaker 1: seeing now just how good he is. And while again

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Speaker 1: never wishing injury on anybody, I think opening the door

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Speaker 1: for Kenneth Walker to get a lot of use is

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Speaker 1: ultimately putting the best running back the Seahawks have on

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Speaker 1: the field for almost the entire game, and I believe

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Speaker 1: that's that's ultimately gonna help help Seattle's chances. But I

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Speaker 1: should mention this Patriots run defense is insane, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know that people are fully aware of how great

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Speaker 1: this run defense is. Can I throw some stats at you?

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Speaker 1: Please do yes? All right? Because this, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is what I do. This feels right in my wheelhouse.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriots in the off season, made one of

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Speaker 1: the great signings that at the time nobody paid any

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Speaker 1: attention to when they signed defensive tackle Milton Williams. And

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Speaker 1: Milton Williams has played. I believe the numbers were now

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Speaker 1: to fifteen games this year. He missed about a month

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Speaker 1: where he was hurt in December. Well, hold on a second, James,

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Speaker 1: Milton Williams, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Didn't pay attention to him. He was one hundred million

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Speaker 4: dollar guy. Charge.

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Speaker 5: He was like he may have been the most expensive

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Speaker 5: free agent and people were paying attention. That was we

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Speaker 5: wanted him. I want Milton Williams on this team because

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Speaker 5: he played half the snaps for Philly. People are wondering, Okay,

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Speaker 5: he's gonna leave him free agency, somebody's gonna overpay him

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Speaker 5: and we're not gonna get you know, the classic forty

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Speaker 5: eight percent becomes seventy percent of snaps and it's gonna

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Speaker 5: drop off.

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Speaker 4: It didn't drop off. This guy's an animal, Charge.

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Speaker 1: He's an absolute animal. I think I think savvy people

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Speaker 1: like yourself tracked Milton Williams. I think if we lined

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Speaker 1: up one hundred NFL fans and said, who does Milton

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Speaker 1: Williams play for? Even right now? With the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: looming just three days away, I believe you would be

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Speaker 1: two days away. I believe we would be sitting at

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Speaker 1: like two percent or three percent. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: average people have any idea. Milton Williams is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair point. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's what the Patriots said. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: bother this. Here's what the Patriots run defense is done.

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Speaker 1: In games with the Milton Williams, they're allowing two point

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Speaker 1: nine yards per carry. Two point nine. That's so good.

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Speaker 1: The next best team is three and a half yards

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Speaker 1: per carry. That's the second best team, let alone NFL average.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots were one and a half yards better than

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Speaker 1: NFL average in run stuffing domination with Milton Williams on

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Speaker 1: the field. And look what it's done in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Last game. RJ. Harvey thirty seven yards on three point

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Speaker 1: eight yards per carry. The week before that in the

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Speaker 1: Divisional round, Woody Marks against the Patriots seventeen yards on

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Speaker 1: one yard per carry. Wild Card Round, Kamani Vidal thirty

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Speaker 1: one yards on two point eight yards per carry. No

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Speaker 1: starting running back was able to top forty nine yards

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Speaker 1: against New England, while Milton Williams on the field. It is,

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Speaker 1: so this Kenneth Walker versus this great Patriots run defense

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Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating. We'll go a long way

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Speaker 1: towards deciding the winner here.

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Speaker 5: No, I love the way you break that down in

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Speaker 5: some ways you're telling me too. I mean that that

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Speaker 5: is one of the great matchups of the game. Kenneth Walker, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I can the beastly nature of him without Charboney, I'm

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Speaker 5: under selling that.

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Speaker 4: So that that's good to know.

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Speaker 5: But but that then leads to Sam, the man who

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Speaker 5: was formerly on the fan, having to show up with

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Speaker 5: that arm.

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Speaker 1: Sam's gonna there. Sam's gonna have to play a great game.

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Speaker 1: It's going to have to be a lot like the

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Speaker 1: game he just played against the Rams, and you know

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Speaker 1: which he he was phenomenal. You mentioned the numbers. Three

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Speaker 1: hundred forty six yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, a sixty

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Speaker 1: nine percent completion rate. Sam was great in the Conference championship.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have to make some big throws here.

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Speaker 1: The other key matchup that involves Sam and then that

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Speaker 1: maybe you've even talked about Nardo. It's the Christian Gonzalez

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Speaker 1: versus Jackson Smith and Jigbit matchup. Have you have you

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Speaker 1: discussed this much this week?

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Speaker 5: Well just not not specifically with that, but kind of again,

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Speaker 5: the secondary of the Patriots, if there is a weakness

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Speaker 5: that defense, I would say your ability to get it

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Speaker 5: around the gym on them can be at a high

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Speaker 5: level with what Jackson Smith and Jigba has done in

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Speaker 5: combination again with the over aggressive at times mentality of

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Speaker 5: the Seahawks secondary.

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Speaker 1: And Christian Gonzalez is the key guy now, so when

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, he's their cornerback. For people that don't know

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Speaker 1: Christian Goanzalz first round here a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: got hurt early, has been great since he gave up

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Speaker 1: one passing touchdown this year including the playoffs and the

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Speaker 1: opposer the opposing passer rating in Chris Gonzalz coverage fifth

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Speaker 1: best in the league, so he's fantastic. So the way

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Speaker 1: the Patriots is going to get nerdy, so just bear

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Speaker 1: with me, Nardo. The way Patriots deploy Christian Gonzalez is this,

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Speaker 1: if the opponent has a clear obvious number one receiver

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Speaker 1: like the Seahawks, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Gonzalez will shadow

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Speaker 1: that guy. Now that would be bad for Jackson Smith

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Speaker 1: and Jigba. But here's the secret sauce and what I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to do here. When Cooper Cup showed

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Speaker 1: up this year, they moved Jackson Smith and Jigba, who

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Speaker 1: had been the two prior years he had been primarily

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Speaker 1: a slot receiver. Yep, they kicked him outside and let

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup run from the slot. Primarily. Last year, Jackson

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Speaker 1: Smith and Jigga ran seven hundred and thirty three slot routes.

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Speaker 1: This year with Cooper Cup it was only two hundred,

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Speaker 1: but Jackson Smith and Jigba's got all that experience running

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Speaker 1: from the slot. Christy Gonzalez does not play the slot. Ever,

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Speaker 1: he does not shadow into the slot. So watch the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and Clint Kobiak deploy Jackson Smith and Jigba from

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Speaker 1: the slot where they get a fantastic matchup with Marcus Jones,

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Speaker 1: the slot cornerback who allowed the most touchdowns in slot

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Speaker 1: coverage of any cornerback in the league. That's a primo matchup,

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Speaker 1: and I think They're gonna put Jackson Smith and Jigba

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Speaker 1: in the slot for big chunks of this game to

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Speaker 1: avoid Gonzalez and give them a far easier matchup.

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Speaker 4: Man, I love that. All right, here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 5: One more pause, charge, let's rattle through some props and

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Speaker 5: along the way that kind of tells us what we're

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Speaker 5: feeling in this game, and chat a little bit more

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Speaker 5: about Super Bowl sixties. So I'm gonna put you on

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Speaker 5: hold as they will. That's Paul Charchian from his nuke

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Speaker 5: bunker in Utah. One more segment with charts before Alec

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Speaker 5: Lewis if the Athletic joins in the eleven o'clock hour,

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Speaker 5: Nordo in for Pa on the fan.

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Speaker 2: hour from nine am till five pm Turkey words. Learn

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Speaker 5: Speaking of back, Paul charchiing is back for one more

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Speaker 5: segment and you can chat about the Super Bowl. We

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Speaker 5: ch had about vikings. But the real reason that we

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Speaker 5: have Paul Charchi and join or is for his big

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Speaker 5: thoughts on the NBA trade deadline, and uh, charch we

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Speaker 5: didn't get you, honest, we got Io Desumu and uh

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Speaker 5: so he's going to offer some pop as a guard

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Speaker 5: and excited to see what he can do here. Once

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Speaker 5: once he joins the team, puts on the jersey and

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Speaker 5: starts playing.

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Speaker 4: But we were.

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Speaker 5: Texting back and forth about Mike Conley coming back. Mike

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Speaker 5: Conley gets traded, he gets traded again, he gets released,

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Speaker 5: and it sounds like Mike Conley is going to finish

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Speaker 5: out the season.

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Speaker 4: It was the plan all along.

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Speaker 5: You save a little cash, you get under the apron

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Speaker 5: or whatever the super tax bit is. And and Conley

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Speaker 5: returns to the how what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well, they needed they needed a true one, somebody that

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Speaker 1: can distribute the ball, somebody that can you know, be

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Speaker 1: a They needed a point guard. And what what else

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Speaker 1: were you going to do at this point to find

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Speaker 1: a point guard who could be any better than Mike Conley.

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Speaker 1: And so, you know, the move's great. Everybody loves Conley,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, personally, we still feel like that's

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Speaker 1: he's you know, we know we know the limitations that

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Speaker 1: he's got at this stage of his career, but I

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Speaker 1: think now it's great to have great to have him

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Speaker 1: back and know that you've got another just set of

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Speaker 1: veteran hands to uh to help help you with some

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Speaker 1: ball distribution and play play a little bit of defense.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, h welcome back. Good to have him back.

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Speaker 5: Good to have him back, and at the stage of

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Speaker 5: his career, maybe some of his impact.

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Speaker 4: And value is kind of off the court.

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Speaker 5: Kind of that that veteran leaderships, steady eyes and steady mind,

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Speaker 5: that that's in the mix with those cats. So good

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Speaker 5: to have Mike Conley back to the Super Bowl. When

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Speaker 5: you send your your mini Tolstoy, as we've come to

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Speaker 5: affectionately call it, I noticed you included some Super Bowl props.

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Speaker 4: I have found some of my own.

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Speaker 5: So I'm just going to kind of give you the

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Speaker 5: floor over the next few minutes, and this will kind

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Speaker 5: of tell part of the story of how you see

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Speaker 5: the game laying out. Are there some props you're pumped

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Speaker 5: to put out there into Sunday's game?

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Speaker 1: Maybe we alternate him. You've got some props ready too.

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Speaker 1: Here's an oddball one for you. Uh see, how traded

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Speaker 1: for Rashid Shahed has been slam dunk great trade. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Shaheed is on the last year of his deal. I

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Speaker 1: think Shied's gonna want to stay at the team. Just

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Speaker 1: brought up a Super Bowl and he feels such a

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Speaker 1: great need for this team. But we're gonna highlight Rashid

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Speaker 1: not as a kick returner, oh, not as a deep

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Speaker 1: ball receiver, but as a rusher Nordoh yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: highlight Seattle wide receiver Rashid Shaheed over three and a

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Speaker 1: half rushing yards. In some ways, it's just the simple.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots allowed the most wide receiver rushing yards in

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Speaker 1: the entire league, which is an esoteric stat but the

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Speaker 1: Patriots were worse, and since Rashid Shaheed's trade to Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Shaheed leads all wide receivers in rushing yards. So you

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Speaker 1: could just stop there, but I gotta add just a

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Speaker 1: little bit more detail. New England allowed eight wide receiver

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Speaker 1: rushing yards per game. S Heed only needs to get

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Speaker 1: to three and a half rushing yards. The Patriots allowed

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Speaker 1: the second most yards per carry by wide receivers nine

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Speaker 1: yards per carry, So this is if he gets just

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Speaker 1: the one carry, it likely goes eight or nine yards

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Speaker 1: on average, and that's way over the three and a

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Speaker 1: half rushing yards he needs to hit. There's also a

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Speaker 1: edible angle on Rashid Shiheed's first run will be over

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Speaker 1: one and a half yards and I think that's an

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Speaker 1: easy one too, So I think he gets the one carry. Here.

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Speaker 1: Patriots saw the sixth most wide receiver rushing attempts one

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Speaker 1: per game. Shaheed was third in rushing attempts by wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna get that rushing attempt and

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Speaker 1: it'll go over three and a half yards.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I love it, and there's there's facts,

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Speaker 5: there's statistics, there's some science behind it.

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Speaker 4: I dig that.

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Speaker 5: I usually go a different route when I do Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl props. I want some fun and I want some

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Speaker 5: boomer bust to it. So I'm gonna hit you with this,

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Speaker 5: Rashid Shahied, I actually have one for him.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting it.

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Speaker 5: I'm getting four to one odds that he has a

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Speaker 5: thirty plus yard reception in Sunday's game.

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Speaker 4: Now he has in total.

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Speaker 5: Of course, you mentioned half Saints half Seahawks sixty catches

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Speaker 5: this year including the playoffs, for seven hundred and thirty

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Speaker 5: eight yards. Two hundred and ten yards of that, or

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Speaker 5: about thirty percent of his production, came on four total

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Speaker 5: catches of fifty one, eighty seven, thirty three and thirty nine.

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Speaker 5: This is an absolute four to one boom er bust.

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Speaker 5: Probably odds are it's a bust, But I'm I'm putting

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Speaker 5: some cash on Rashid Shahed with a double move, a bite,

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Speaker 5: a deep ball. Can't run Kenneth Walker to save their lives.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna stretch it with Rashid Shahed on Sunday and

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit that one.

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Speaker 1: You know that's Shahed is. He just needs to make

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Speaker 1: one guy miss.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: You hate it to catch the ball.

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Speaker 4: Somebody misses, now gone.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, wherever you are in the field,

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Speaker 1: there are few players in the NFL that can turn

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Speaker 1: a short gain into a long one. And she Heed's

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Speaker 1: also great with the long bomb. By the way, one

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Speaker 1: of the best deep ball receivers there is because he

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Speaker 1: gets separation. He's so fast. You know, we had mentioned

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Speaker 1: last segment Patriots have one star cornerback, christigan Zalez, and

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Speaker 1: it falls off pretty hard after that. If chrisigan Zalez

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Speaker 1: is on Jackson Smith and Jigba, Rashid cheat's got a

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Speaker 1: path to really very favorable coverage opportunities and that that

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Speaker 1: might be the difference here.

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Speaker 4: What what do you what?

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Speaker 5: You're you're all over Remandre so a few minutes left.

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Speaker 5: Why why are you so in on Remandre? What?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: What's peaking your interest in him? Ramandre Stevenson, prop bet Wise.

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Speaker 1: Romandre and Trevion Henderson over on receptions?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: The Seattle has allowed Seattle's a great defense has already discussed,

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Speaker 1: but they have one weird Achilles heel running back receptions. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Seattle allowed the most running back receptions during the regular

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Speaker 1: season and then in the playoffs. Christian McCaffrey was on

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Speaker 1: his way to a massive receiving game before he got

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Speaker 1: hurt and the evens he had five receptions and basically

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Speaker 1: a half last week or two weeks ago. Last game,

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Speaker 1: Kien Williams of Blake Korm combined for five receptions, forty

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Speaker 1: six receiving yards, and a touchdown for Henderson. Get this,

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Speaker 1: Seattle gives up so many running back receptions that the

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Speaker 1: number two runners are almost always paid. In eighteen of

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Speaker 1: nineteen Seattle games this year, the opponents have had a

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Speaker 1: second runner get one or more reception. Trayvon Henderson's line

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Speaker 1: is point five receptions. Oh wow, so all you have

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Speaker 1: to do is just get the one reception. Eighteen out

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Speaker 1: of nineteen, Nordo and so like that. And then also

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Speaker 1: for Remandre, he's going to get the majority of these

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Speaker 1: receptions probably, But again, this team that gives up eight

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Speaker 1: running back reception, sorry, six running back receptions a game,

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Speaker 1: I like Rmandre to go over eleven and a half

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Speaker 1: receiving yard And here's why, and more crazy esoteric stuff

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Speaker 1: that you only really get on Super Bowl Week. Ramandre

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Speaker 1: Stevenson ranks number one on targets of at least twelve

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Speaker 1: are yards in the NFL across all running backs. He

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Speaker 1: has the longest average distance of target among all running

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Speaker 1: backs is Ramandre Stevenson. They throw to him downfield. He

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Speaker 1: ranks number one on receptions of over twelve are yards

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Speaker 1: and he ranks number one on yards gained on passes

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Speaker 1: of over twelve yards. And again it's Romandre over ten

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Speaker 1: eleven and a half receiving yards. So I think he

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Speaker 1: gets he gets some at least one longer reception, and

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Speaker 1: he can cash in on the over eleven and a

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Speaker 1: half longest receiving yards against the team that gives up

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Speaker 1: the most running back receptions in the league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ramandre Stevenson, you can get him eight to one

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Speaker 5: on a thirty plus catch. You can get him three

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Speaker 5: to one on a twenty plus reception. I like those angles.

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Speaker 5: So once again you are fact and I am field charge.

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Speaker 5: Because here's where I'm at. We'll say goodbye Diggs. Stefan

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Speaker 5: Diggs as in over under on receptions four and a half.

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Speaker 5: I just think that's an overall day in this game.

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Speaker 5: I think there's an element here with Diggs where I

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Speaker 5: think he had five or six hundred yard games all season,

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Speaker 5: and the targets have really fluctuated week after weeks, so

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Speaker 5: you can't really find a trend there. But this is

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Speaker 5: the game where Diggs is available. This is the game

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Speaker 5: where Diggs is always open, and this is the game

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Speaker 5: I think where Drake may sees that as his outlet

865
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Speaker 5: in his safety net. So I'm getting three to one

866
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: on seven or more catches from Stefon Diggs. I'm also

867
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Speaker 5: believing that Diggs leads the team in receiving, which leads

868
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 5: me down this road. I can get three to one

869
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: on seventy plus receiving yards for Stefan Diggs in this game,

870
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 5: and if he eclipses the century mark, I can get

871
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: nine to one on Stefan Diggs having one hundred yard

872
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 5: game in the Super Bowl. I'm taking a field based

873
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 5: swing that win or lose. I think Digsy is the

874
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Speaker 5: star of the show for this offense on Sunday and uh,

875
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: and he's gonna get me paid on a few of

876
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: those props.

877
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: It to me, it all depends on if Devon Witherspoon

878
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: is going to shadow him. Because the Patriots aren't deep

879
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: at wide receiver you alluded to this earlier. They've got

880
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: Digs and then it falls off to like Keisham Bouti

881
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: and mccollins. Devon Wetherspoon is awesome. And if they decide

882
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: that they're going to put Witherspoon in a shadow situation

883
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: on Diggs, I think that's it. I think Diggs is done.

884
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: But if they don't, then I'm then I'm with you

885
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: on this. So I think there's it's a there's a

886
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: high I think I consider that a high risk, high

887
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: reward maneuver and hopefully it'll pay out for you.

888
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 5: You think you think Witherspoon is talented enough to follow

889
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 5: Digs all over the field, because the way that you

890
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 5: were talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's aging. I mean,

891
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: it ain't like it used to be, but it can

892
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 5: still be pretty good. Digs can play any spot out there,

893
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 5: and you think Witherspoon can can trail him the whole way.

894
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: Hallway.

895
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: Witherspoon's awesome. He's Pro Football Focus is second highest graded cornerback.

896
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: He's one of the best young cornerbacks in the league.

897
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: Great young players.

898
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: I I think, given where Diggs is in his career

899
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: arc you know, still coming off the injury, I just

900
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't I think if Witherspoon goes on Diggs, it's

901
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: lights out for Biggs and they get the Patriots are

902
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to win other ways.

903
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 5: Like Kaishan Boody, this is this isn't going well. I'm

904
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 5: gonna lose all my money on these prop bets.

905
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: My goodness.

906
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: But that's only if they do that.

907
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: It's all They might just I don't know, they might

908
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: just play.

909
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: They might just play a bunch of his own. Have

910
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Witherspoon on one side of the field, although they usually

911
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: plays all over the field, you know, But so I

912
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: know I could be wrong about that. Nick am and worry.

913
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of that secondary for Seattle, Yeah,

914
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: what a great draft pick he was. We talked about

915
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: him as a potential Viking yes, heading into the draft,

916
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: as we were talking about all the possible things that

917
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota could do with their draft pick last April, Nick

918
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: am and worry who they're using in the slot and

919
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: is just obliterating opposing runners on his side of the field.

920
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: What a great hit he has been for the Seattle

921
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: front office. That's you know, while we're talking about the

922
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Seattle secondary, we should mention him too.

923
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: Well.

924
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 5: That just brings us is as we put a cap

925
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 5: on this whole thing, charge and can't thank you enough

926
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 5: for joining Is this this brings us back around to

927
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 5: the beginning when we were talking about Quac and our

928
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: favorite team. If you really want to find yourself on

929
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 5: a Friday in a nuclear bunker in Utah slamming your

930
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 5: forehead against your desk, just go on the internet. Pull

931
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Speaker 5: up Vikings draft history and pull up Seahawks draft history,

932
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 5: and you see the difference between what John Schneider and

933
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 5: that group have done over the last several years and

934
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: what our favorite team has done or more importantly not

935
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: done in the draft. And maybe that can just be

936
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: like a super Bowl. Just make it a yearly, annual tradition.

937
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: You do this with the Chiefs a few years ago

938
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 5: do this with the Patriots.

939
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: It it's brutal what we've seen.

940
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable what both the Patriots have done. You mentioned Milton,

941
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 5: and they had to go maybe a little more free agency,

942
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 5: but the drafts. Just the overall production of John Schneider

943
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 5: in that front office in Seattle, it's a freaking plus and.

944
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: I think that's why they're gonna win on Sunday.

945
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Hey plus, Yeah, and let's let's give a tip of

946
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: the cap to Minnesota native Trent Kirchner Fulda, Minnesota. I

947
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: believe Saint John's graduate and he is basically second in

948
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: command in that front office behind John Schneider. He's the

949
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: vice president of player personnel and he's done. I think

950
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: college is his I think he orients a little more

951
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: towards college. But the Seahawks have just crushed their drafts,

952
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: including Gray Zabel. Remember how much we wanted him for

953
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: the to find his way to the Vikings, and you know,

954
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: Seattle wisely ended up taking him in the in the

955
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: first round of last year's draft, and he has just

956
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: been an anchor on that offensive line. Every bit is

957
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: as good as we had we thought he might be.

958
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: And it would have been nice. Had he fall into

959
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: the Vikings, I'd like to think we would have taken

960
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: him there.

961
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 5: Well, they got this undrafted Bison cat there to Sundell.

962
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: He might be their starting center. He was nicked up

963
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 5: for a while, but he's undrafted. And guess what we

964
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: found out yesterday Pa had Steve Hutchinson on the show.

965
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 4: No big deal. Hof.

966
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: Hutch has been having some conversations and maybe doing some

967
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 5: consulting work. So Hof finding maybe the next left guard

968
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 5: in the NFL. Not that Zabel was his secret, but

969
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: but Hutch certainly maybe had part of that chat when

970
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: it came to choosing him.

971
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Speaker 1: So so, why would Hutch do that to us? Why

972
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: would Hutch do that to us? He he he hurt.

973
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Speaker 1: The Vikings can't do that now, I'm believe. Come on,

974
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Hutch Viking for life, and you know, and he was

975
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: back what he was doing with the Seahawks. Remember how

976
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: acrimonious it was when he left the Seahawks. They were

977
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, the poison pill all that stuff. Yeah, I

978
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: don't want to find out that Hutch did his dirty

979
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: like that.

980
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 5: He went to a Super Bowl with him. There's no

981
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: doubt you are the very best. Thank you. For spending

982
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: an hour with me. Thank you for the props and

983
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: the stats and the facts. I'm more of a feel

984
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 5: guy myself, but we're going to catch up again soon. Man,

985
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 5: really appreciate you hanging out today.

986
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great chatting with you, and I hope

987
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to talk soon. My man. By

988
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Nordo and Brett. Great to chat with you behind the

989
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: scenes as well. Thanks for your help today, No problem.

990
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 5: That's Paul Charchi in from Utah joining us as part

991
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Speaker 5: of a Friday Feast final hour. We're gonna have a

992
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Speaker 5: few short segments with Alec Lewis of The Athletic that's

993
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Speaker 5: next on the Fan