WEBVTT - The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker -- 12/2/25

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<v Speaker 1>But you l w Gary Jeff Walker sitting down checking

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<v Speaker 1>in reporting for duty on this Tuesday night. How about

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<v Speaker 1>that snow this morning. That'll test your metal and your

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<v Speaker 1>driving skills, and people's driving skills were on full display

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<v Speaker 1>during morning rush hour and really not that bad. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>test the brush, the scraper brush in your back seat too, anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the toughest part of this is cleaning off

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<v Speaker 1>your car. And please, when you clean off your car

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<v Speaker 1>from the snow, get the mountain that's on top of

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<v Speaker 1>your car too, so it doesn't pile into somebody else's windshield.

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<v Speaker 1>On the interstate, we still see people driving around in

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<v Speaker 1>these ig loose It's insane, not just your windows, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole car. It takes a little bit longer, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>damn well worth it. As we get into things tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>What a mess in the state of Minnesota. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a mess for a long long time. The land of

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<v Speaker 1>ten Thousand Lakes and at least a couple million idiots

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<v Speaker 1>who keep on voting for people like Ilan Omar and

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Walls. That scandal, the fraud scandal in Minnesota, that

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<v Speaker 1>Tim tampon. Tim says he's grabbing by both horns and

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<v Speaker 1>throwing people in jail. It's all happened under his watch,

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<v Speaker 1>even with warnings from other lawmakers in that state that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going on, and nothing was done. How about

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars funding Somali terrorist Uh huh, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're finding out. And even the Democrats are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>jump on Governor Waltz now as well as the mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>news because nobody wants him on that debate stage in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight. Can you imagine if that man had

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<v Speaker 1>been elected vice president? On tonight show, we have Corin Clifford,

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<v Speaker 1>who is an independent journalist works for SAT one two three,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get her take on the Tim Waltz Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>scandal and everything else that's going on. On President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>new immigration halts, not just to nineteen countries, He's talked

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<v Speaker 1>about expanding it and kicking some people out of the

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<v Speaker 1>country who don't love our country, and we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>what she knows and thinks about that. Adam Hartage a

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<v Speaker 1>former CIA operative who has a brand new book called

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<v Speaker 1>The Alpha Blueprint, and it's about how to teach your

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the next generation about AI and what is

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<v Speaker 1>real and what really matters looking forward, to that, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Hatter with some tech talk before we're done, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fur Ball Andy Furman. Plus at the top of next hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be repeating Saturday Mornings Rock and Roll Archaeology with

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<v Speaker 1>myself and the music professor Jim Lebarber. For those who

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<v Speaker 1>missed it, we can't podcast it because of the licensing

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<v Speaker 1>rules for podcasts as opposed to our rules for broadcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you didn't get it up at the crack

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<v Speaker 1>of seven thirty five on Saturday, a chance to hear

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and Roll Archaeology, the stories behind the great songs

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<v Speaker 1>one more time tonight. The Nightcap continues in Moments with

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Hartage here on seven hundred WLW, The Apple with

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<v Speaker 1>Adam here on this show on seven hundred WLW. And

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<v Speaker 1>Adam is a former CIAOP officer, and he has written

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new book called The Alpha Blueprint, which is

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<v Speaker 1>meant to teach the next generation how to cope with

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<v Speaker 1>AI artificial intelligence because in many cases, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>are the generation of AI. They are the generation that

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<v Speaker 1>has only known the social media and cell phones and

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<v Speaker 1>connectivity like we never imagined when we were kids. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are some daunting issues there obviously, and it's important

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<v Speaker 1>for the next generation, your children, your grandchildren to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what's real and what's fake. His name is Adam Hartage

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<v Speaker 1>and he is back author of The Alpha Blueprint. Adam Hartige.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me back.

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<v Speaker 3>Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's let's talk about the book before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into anything else. Adam, And we kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thumbnail covered it the last time you were on. But

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<v Speaker 1>why do you feel like this is an important book

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<v Speaker 1>for any parent to have in their possession and to

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<v Speaker 1>have this information in dealing with the realities of the

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<v Speaker 1>technology you today?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I appreciate the question, and I will put

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<v Speaker 2>it this way. I think the conversation that parents need

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<v Speaker 2>to be having with their kids today like before any others. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's this conversation about AI and what it

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<v Speaker 2>means for their future. So, I mean, I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>ten year old daughter and I've got a seven year

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<v Speaker 2>old son. You know, I looked at them one day

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, as a parent, what do I

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<v Speaker 2>tell them in ten years? Do I say, Hey, kids,

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<v Speaker 2>go to college, you know, get a four year degree,

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<v Speaker 2>go work for a fortune. Five hundred company for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years and don't worry, your rop IRA and social Security

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<v Speaker 2>will be there for you at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it occurred to me that that world is

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<v Speaker 2>frankly dead and gone and buried. And you've now got

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<v Speaker 2>companies that are replacing jobs with robots, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>companies that are shying away from humans in preference of

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<v Speaker 2>AI tools, and these are going to be real major

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<v Speaker 2>issues that this next generation and the Gen Z generation

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<v Speaker 2>who's out there now, so there's years are the kids

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<v Speaker 2>who are around twentieth year or so, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>the alphas are you know, the age of my kids

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<v Speaker 2>now the newborns call them the ten or so years

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<v Speaker 2>old And uh, I mean it's I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>a parent is not sitting down, you know, just hoping

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that this that this passes em buyer, they think

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<v Speaker 2>they can keep their head in the sand, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not willing to sit down and have these

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<v Speaker 2>very challenging conversations with their kids about like, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>does the future look like for us as a family.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how am I going to teach my kids

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<v Speaker 2>to to be able to stay relevant, stay solvent financially solvent, mentally.

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<v Speaker 3>Healthy, and all these other things.

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked at that and I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think the answers to these things, and I

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<v Speaker 2>tend to view the world through a Christian lenz and

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<v Speaker 2>so I said, I think the answers to these things

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tend to go back to more timeless principles

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<v Speaker 2>like faith, freedom, fitness, family, you know, foundational principles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one of the bigger things I harp on

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<v Speaker 2>with my kids all the time is I tell them,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are growing up in a world where you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot afford to be a liar. So not necessarily even

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<v Speaker 2>because your dad doesn't want you to be a liar,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's you know, you know wrong, or for moral

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<v Speaker 2>reasons or whatever. I said, you cannot be a liar

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<v Speaker 2>because people in your time, when your adults, will crave

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<v Speaker 2>truth so much, because the world is completely you know,

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<v Speaker 2>meant to pull the wool over their eyes and see them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you look at everything now we have

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<v Speaker 2>from you know, the competitive advertising, the government bureaucracies constantly

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<v Speaker 2>lie too, I mean, endless conspiracy theories which all turn

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<v Speaker 2>out to be true, you know. I mean, it's how

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<v Speaker 2>do you discern truth, and how do you teach your

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<v Speaker 2>children how to discern truth and understand fact from fiction?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I, you know, to go into some of

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<v Speaker 2>the some of the practical stuff. I'm hey, you know

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<v Speaker 2>your dad was CIA. I can tell you what to

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<v Speaker 2>look for. Here's what the lies, Here's what the mapulation,

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<v Speaker 2>here's here's how you can tell when you're being targeted

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<v Speaker 2>or deceived or manipulated. And so I go into some

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really a series of practical field guide type

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<v Speaker 2>letters from a concerned father to his kids in the

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<v Speaker 2>next generation, saying, you know, these are the things you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to deal with. So let's get ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of this now, because we can't just keep our head

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<v Speaker 2>in the sand and expect it. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to become reality, because it's already here today.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is a growing skepticism among teenagers any way.

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<v Speaker 1>A recent study by the News Literacy Project revealed that

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four percent eighty four percent of American teenagers between

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<v Speaker 1>the ages of thirteen and eighteen view the news media

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<v Speaker 1>negatively describing it as fake and biased. So there are

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<v Speaker 1>there are kids do have a radar about what's real

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<v Speaker 1>and it's fake, but it's good to inform them to

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<v Speaker 1>be vigilant, as you're doing in the Alpha Blueprint.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And not only that, I mean, I'm I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>hopeful or for this next for these next two generations,

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<v Speaker 2>both the Ziers and the Alpha kids. I think they're strong.

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<v Speaker 2>I think as a group, their ability to sniff out

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<v Speaker 2>bs is better than really any group probably in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Because like my kids, this was so telling. When my

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<v Speaker 2>daughter was I don't know, three years old or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was, and she walked up to the television and

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<v Speaker 2>she started putting her fingers on it, trying to scroll

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<v Speaker 2>scroll the TV, you know, And I'm thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we live out in the country. Our kids

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of technology, you know. They they

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<v Speaker 2>have an iPad.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but that's that's really about it. They spend

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time playing with their friends, playing outdoors,

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<v Speaker 2>playing with the dog, you know, down at the lake,

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. But but I thought, wow, if even my

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<v Speaker 2>daughter only three years old, already looks at the world

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<v Speaker 2>and what she sees is the scrollable screen and she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't understand, you know, even even really how to speak

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<v Speaker 2>very much yet at the age of three, but she

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<v Speaker 2>knows technology. And so these kids are, you know, growing

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<v Speaker 2>up on you know, their fluency level with technology is

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<v Speaker 2>far beyond anything that that people our age, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>can can speak to. But what they don't have necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>is the moral fiber, the grit, the character, the worldly experience,

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<v Speaker 2>the good compass and guideposts to send them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the right directions. And that's kind of what the

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<v Speaker 2>book Little More focuses on, is how to build those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of core foundational things in your children. So and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it, you know, comes back to common sense,

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<v Speaker 2>good parenting, you know, understanding your place in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, as it relates to the almighty and

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<v Speaker 2>high purpose here and turn into you know, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of more timeless, ancient principles that are all

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<v Speaker 2>you know, encapsulated in the Big Book.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was, I was going to mention Adam that

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and I at church this past Sunday. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago. It was testimony Sunday, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people that got up and talked was

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<v Speaker 1>a local youth leader and he said and he's in

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<v Speaker 1>schools with middle schoolers and high schoolers all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, it's amazing how many kids are thirsty

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<v Speaker 1>for the gospel, how many kids are going back to church,

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<v Speaker 1>are interested in learning about Jesus and going to church.

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<v Speaker 1>It it really is happening, not only locally, but all

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<v Speaker 1>over the country free. And it's not just a reflex

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<v Speaker 1>response to Charlie Kirk. It has been going on for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. And you've got to be heartened about that,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you want them to be able to distinguish

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<v Speaker 1>between what is real and true and what's fake, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a few better places to find that out than that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, and they're so used to being manipulated

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<v Speaker 2>and lied to by the media, buy social media. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like a good example is my business

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<v Speaker 2>partner recently single was you know, met a girl on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram or whatever. They went on a date and afterwards

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, man, He's like, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, because physically this person looks nothing like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Instagram profile with all the filters and everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I'm like, yeah, I mean I get.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just one small example, though, but when you're constantly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you constantly have that reality shoved at you,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes it so that you can't really trust anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I tell my kids, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the luxury of becoming a liar, because you

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<v Speaker 2>need your kids, your your co cohorts, your colleagues. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you grow up, will need to know that you

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<v Speaker 2>are a person of character and backbone that they can

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<v Speaker 2>turn to and rely on, because you guys aren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to have much reality other than physical close human contact

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<v Speaker 2>as your community.

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<v Speaker 1>As an EXCIA operative Adam Hartage, what did you make

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<v Speaker 1>of the six elected lawmakers, all with intelligence and military ties,

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<v Speaker 1>telling troops that they can disobey a commander in chief's

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<v Speaker 1>orders if they find that they are illegal. That, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is classics. See I am manipulation in other countries.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it not?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>But well also it's so disingenuous, all of it, because so,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, these people aren't idiots, and so first of all,

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<v Speaker 5>I found it reprehensible, I feeling it completely unprofessional.

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<v Speaker 2>I found it, uh disgusting and you know, wrong. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these people aren't idiots, and so they use

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<v Speaker 2>words like okay, you know, it's your duty to to uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to refuse an illegal order. Yeah, but then

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of imply that Trump's already giving these illegal orders,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, what is the illegal order? This

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<v Speaker 2>is why you have to unpack all these things. So

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<v Speaker 2>because first off, any military officer or any government oath

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<v Speaker 2>of office officer, so like I was a CIA operations officer,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a federal you know, I take an oath

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<v Speaker 2>of office for that. When I was a military officer,

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<v Speaker 2>I took an oath of office for that. And anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who is an officer in the government knows that they

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<v Speaker 2>has not just the right, but a moral obligation and

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<v Speaker 2>a duty to refuse unlawful illegal orders. Everybody knows that right.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we're doing is so dishonest because they they

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<v Speaker 2>say that, but they're trying to make it seem like

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has already issued all of these illegal orders and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going way outside of you know, Uniform Code of

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<v Speaker 2>Military Justice or Title fifty year, Title ten or any

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<v Speaker 2>of the other you know, legalistic stuff. But it's just

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<v Speaker 2>bs and it's designed to manipulate you, pull the wall

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<v Speaker 2>over your eyes and get you going. It's rage bait.

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<v Speaker 2>It's designed to get people going Trump bad, Orange Man bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's doing illegal things and constitutions under threat.

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<v Speaker 3>All this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's disingenuous, it's deceitful, and it's frankly reprehensible. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>tired of the Left constantly putting politics and party over

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<v Speaker 2>duty and you know, the right. I'm just I'm sick

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the Next Generation

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<v Speaker 1>for an AI Future. The author is Adam Hardage, and

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<v Speaker 1>I loved what you said. Is the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>tell your kids is make sure you're not a liar,

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<v Speaker 1>because liars abound everywhere and you don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>known that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Adam, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, No, no, I was just yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that way. You keep your keep your keep your

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<v Speaker 2>fund family, keep them close. You know, I'll always be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave from the front.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all right, pick up the book, The Alpha Blueprint. Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you so much. Having wonderful have a wonderful week.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless all right, Uh, we'll switch gears and Danny

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<v Speaker 1>was my second amendment friend will join us right afternoons,

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<v Speaker 1>which is next on the Nightcap on seven under W

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<v Speaker 1>l W. He is again first time after a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been too long in my opinion, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably my fault. Is the guy who has been shining

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<v Speaker 1>a beacon of light on American freedom and liberty and

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment, the blessed Second Amendment of our United

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<v Speaker 1>States Constitution in the Bill of Rights for over a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the author of the Good Gun, Bad Guy

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<v Speaker 1>series of books.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Former well a former non gun owner kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>who got hip to the truth and has been leading

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<v Speaker 1>the charge for our freedom ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan was is back on the Nightcap.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, Danny, Gary Jeff Hey, great, Great to

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<v Speaker 3>be on your show as always and doing good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to have you back.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving Okay, everything go well with the family and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I ate way too much and now this whole

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<v Speaker 2>week it's nothing but salad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've gone that dramatically, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>backwards in my diet since Thanksgiving, but I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this, I did not want another bite to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>We ate at noon and we didn't eat anything the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the day because dude, I was stuffed.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are, And I kind of ask you

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<v Speaker 1>this every year. But if you've got somebody on your

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas list first and foremost who was interested in being

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<v Speaker 1>a first time gun owner, or you have a gun

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<v Speaker 1>owner on your list, do you have any recommendations?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, this is a tough one because everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is a little bit different. You know, when I started out,

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<v Speaker 2>I started with an LCP three eighty, which was, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, not a good gun to carry if you're

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<v Speaker 2>new to carry. There's there's the shield, and there's some

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<v Speaker 2>other smaller, you know, compact nine milimeters guns that are

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<v Speaker 2>usually pretty pretty good. But I hate to do a

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<v Speaker 2>recommendation because you know, it depends on how you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>carry and carry in your waistband, you're gonna carry in

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<v Speaker 2>your ankle, you're gonna carry in your purse. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things are different. So I would recommend

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<v Speaker 2>go to your local gun shop.

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<v Speaker 4>And just testing out handle them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean, check them out and

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<v Speaker 2>see which ones you like and do you want a

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<v Speaker 2>mechanical safety or not. You know, a lot of different variables,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's hard to really make a recommendation. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot. I mean, there's no limit on the

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<v Speaker 2>models out right now. It's just unbelievable. You have your

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<v Speaker 2>your choice of all sorts of stuff. It's really a

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<v Speaker 2>great time for handguns.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that in your work with a Good Gunbadguy

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com with amal Land that you do some writing

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<v Speaker 1>for them and you do all kinds of stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>video on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>The Loaded Mic show, is that still going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're doing Loaded Mic every week. We're getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for a big Christmas special, which is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We bring in Charlie Cook and John Pech you know,

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<v Speaker 2>good friends of ours also in the Second Amendment world,

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<v Speaker 2>so they come down, they come up to our studio

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<v Speaker 2>in New York and we have a blast. But Loaded

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<v Speaker 2>Mike is still going. It's actually we just got on

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<v Speaker 2>a new network called Spreely, the Spreely Network, which is

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<v Speaker 2>bringing us tons and tons of new fans and viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want, go to Loadedmike dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the show is great. We're having a blast

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good deal, good deal. Did you see the news story?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this somewhere on late night news and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a joke at first, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that we're dealing with a country that's barely a

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<v Speaker 1>country anymore, England. This guy was on vacation in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, this brit and he was in Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>he posted a picture on social media of him holding

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<v Speaker 1>a rifle and he was arrested when he got back

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<v Speaker 1>home for inspiring fear, for holding an illegal firearm. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even in country. He was in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you hear about this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what's interesting if you look at this

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<v Speaker 2>conceptually or you know, ideologically, the Brits they are deadly

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of their citizens having firearms because they remember what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in the Revolutionary War. They tried, they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>take control, but it was the people over here who decided, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to let you do it, and we

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<v Speaker 2>kicked their ass. And the reason we did it was

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<v Speaker 2>because we had firearms. So they will do everything they

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<v Speaker 2>can deter positive any positive, you know, thing about about

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<v Speaker 2>firearms or guns or anything. So I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 2>they did it. I mean, it's it is shocking on

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<v Speaker 2>one level. It's like, how the heck are we, where

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<v Speaker 2>do we? How do we do this? This is just

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<v Speaker 2>so controlling and so but over there, I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 2>because they The worst thing that could happen to them

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<v Speaker 2>right now, the government that is, is their people get power,

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<v Speaker 2>because what's happening right now is are getting overloaded with

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<v Speaker 2>it with Islam, yes, radical Islamist, and they're taking over

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<v Speaker 2>and and they they desperately want their the citizens, the

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<v Speaker 2>good people, to be disarmed so they can have more

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<v Speaker 2>control over them.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's turning into a hell hole over there from

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<v Speaker 2>what I can see, and it's just a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>sad place when you can't defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that unfettered open border kind of mentality. Immigration that's

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<v Speaker 1>been going on in the UK for quite some time now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the mayor of London is is is Islamic

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<v Speaker 1>and has you know, talked about Sharia law.

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<v Speaker 4>Being the law of the land.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have all these Islamis that are now have

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<v Speaker 1>migrated and they want complete control over the population. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that's that's part of the disarmament move

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<v Speaker 1>as you just mentioned. The other part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't have apparently any kind of protection in

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<v Speaker 1>their own law to keep this from happening, from from

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<v Speaker 1>the government being an absolute answer no matter what the

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<v Speaker 1>people actually want. That's what you get. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>used to be the monarchy. It used to be the monarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's parliament that has adopted the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>We are the kings, we know better than the peasants

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<v Speaker 1>and the serfs, so we will overlord you. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the Islamists have taken charge of that government.

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<v Speaker 7>Any thoughts, Well, yeah, I mean that's the way it's

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<v Speaker 7>always been. The one thing that they hate is, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>people like us who said now I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 7>deal with it anymore. You're done, and took took three

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<v Speaker 7>percent of the population to to take care of business

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<v Speaker 7>and become free, break away, you know, and become free.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>They love that control. That's that's what that's that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they're all about about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's the same it's the same thing here

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<v Speaker 1>with people who oppose your right to own and bear firearms. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got to be constantly vigilant that we do

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<v Speaker 1>not become that society that we fought a bloody revolutionary

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<v Speaker 1>war to break away from. And it's it's a battle

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys and gun owners of America and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of us who believe in our constance, in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill of Rights are fighting every day we.

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<v Speaker 3>Have we're fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fighting against fellow citizens, Democrats, liberals, progress as we're

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<v Speaker 2>fighting against them. Yeah, they're the ones who are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take away I write, that's the most astonishing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to If I wasn't right in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of it, it would be I would look at it

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<v Speaker 2>and go, what's wrong here? What are these people crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>They want to give up our freedom and they know

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<v Speaker 2>that we real Americans won't let them, and they hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you this. In the upcoming governor's

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<v Speaker 1>race you're in New York does does anybody on the

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<v Speaker 1>right does Stephanic, at least Stephanic have a legitimate chance

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<v Speaker 1>to beat Kathy Hogle in this governor's race in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixth And what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think when I see local doubtlets, local media outlets say.

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<v Speaker 3>Local still holds a lead. H They say this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I when I see that, I recognize it.

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<v Speaker 2>When they were talking about Hillary Clinton in the general

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<v Speaker 2>in the general election, they were saying she's still ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>she's still ahead, she's still in what happened. But so

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<v Speaker 2>they need their people to feel good. You remember Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>and the liberals, they need to be coddled, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be they need to feel good. So they're always

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<v Speaker 2>saying locals in the league. But there's been some polls

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<v Speaker 2>where Stephanic is showing that she's neck and neck. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have a good idea that she Stephani could actually

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<v Speaker 2>take this one because Lee's elden last time around came

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<v Speaker 2>really close. But I I wouldn't put it past the

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<v Speaker 2>New York legislature to to make to do some cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that you never trust trusted Democrats when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to that. But so to summarize, the Democrats are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>the left wing media is saying the hope will still

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<v Speaker 2>in the lead, but there's some polls coming out this

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<v Speaker 2>shows disgusted on.

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<v Speaker 6>Neck and neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and this is what happens when you get a

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<v Speaker 1>governor who at first blush in the first allyed what

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even elected, was just appointed appointed, appointed.

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<v Speaker 4>By by Cuomo, and uh then then.

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<v Speaker 2>You know she and then let me just have been there.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to interrupt you. But then the next time around,

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<v Speaker 2>she she barely won.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're talking about a.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat majority here, a supermajority in all, and she barely won,

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<v Speaker 2>but she did have the Democratic machine behind her, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why she she pulled it off the second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt about that. Well, what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the gun laws as we look to the new year?

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<v Speaker 3>Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>What uh? What battles?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys ready to fight to keep people free?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we we want right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The HR thirty eight, which is the Constitutional Concealed Carry

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Reciprocity Act. That means you'll be able to take your

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<v Speaker 2>gun regardless of the state you come from, and travel

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 2>in and out with your concealed carry gun in any

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 2>state right in the nach and you will be bound

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>by the same you know, concealed carry restrictions of your state,

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>your home state, just like your driver's license. And that's

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>what we really want. And you know, people say, well,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>we don't, We shouldn't have a permit at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is a good.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Step until we can get ourselves to a place where

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<v Speaker 2>we can have constitutional carry, which is what our founding

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:46.120
<v Speaker 2>fathers always wanted. Constitutional carry. There would be no government

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>issue permission slip needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean they can't even they can't even vote

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the government open. How are they, Oh, you're

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>expecting in Congress to pass something that makes so much

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>sense when they can't even fully fund themselves with our money.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You do make it sound ridiculous, I know, but I

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>have high hopes.

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<v Speaker 4>And the bill again is HR.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>HR thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep your eye on that one, Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>Just remember thirty eight caliber HR thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they still going crazy trying to impose red flag

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>laws across the country?

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<v Speaker 3>Dan? Oh, of course, red flag laws are.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Red flag laws are something that they would just love

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to have. And I hear Democrats all the time talking

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. Red flag law is probably the most dangerous

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>thing you could you could have because basically it's confiscation

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>without due process. And anybody with red flag laws typically

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the accuser can be practically anyone and sometimes anonymous, which

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>is scary. So of course they want that. That way,

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>they can, you know, say, oh, well, if they don't

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 2>get j Walker, he's a he's a risk to society,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>but don't get his guns, and then we'll figure it

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<v Speaker 2>out later.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they could actually say I'm a

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>risk to society. They used to say I was a

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>risk to myself, which was probably true.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 3>What are you.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 4>But I'm sorry, what what are you working on right now?

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Right now? Yeah, right now, I'm doing a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned right now with gun free zones, and it's

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.959
<v Speaker 2>becoming pretty bad across the country. Different states where you know,

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>there's there's laws right now. In New York, for instance,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>there's a law you know, it still says that you

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>have to put a sign up to welcome guns rather

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 2>than a sign up, you know, to turning them. So

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it's called the vampire rule. We call it the vampire rule,

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and it means that in order to bring a gun

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>into a publicly a publicly accessed private business, you would

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>have to have written permission, in other words, sign on

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.479
<v Speaker 2>the on the business saying the guns are welcome. That's

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>that's the vampire rule, you know. Vampires. The theory is

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>a vampire couldn't come into your home unless you invited

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 2>them in.

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite, one of my favorite lines

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>from the movie Lass Boys.

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well exactly, Well that's what they're you know,

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>that's what they're trying to do with firearms, and nobody's

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>got to put us sign ups saying guns are welcome,

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>because if they do, they're they're going to be afraid

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>of you know, left wingers. You know, you know, uh,

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Molotov cocktail in their business.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Or or you know, right, I said guns were welcome,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>not molotov cocktails.

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 4>You commys.

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one thing that I'm concerned with right now

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>is red flag laws. And you want HR thirty eight,

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.239
<v Speaker 2>and we want our d OJ and Pam Bond to

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<v Speaker 2>get on board with the removing short barrel rifles, short

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>brow shotguns, and silencers from the National Firearms Act because

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>ultimately it's a registry. It's a gun registry, and we

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously don't want that because once the guns are registered,

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>and then you have red flag laws, you have the

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 2>access now to confiscate guns and you know exactly where

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>they are. So those are two things that really concern

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>me right now.

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is when these red flag laws take

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>effect and they compensate your gun, you've got to wage

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a long court battle just to prove that you're not

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a threat to anybody, and so you're out of pocket

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that money paying for a lawyer and going to court,

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you still may not get your gun back.

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>And you want a little statistic on that, I think

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it's about eighty five percent of the people who get

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>caught up in those red flag laws do not fight

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it because they who don't have the time or the

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>money or the will.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 4>It's a damn shame. All right, Dan Walls, thank you

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 4>so much.

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Good Gunbadguy dot com still a good place to find you.

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yep, gunback dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, fantastic.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Danny was Second Amendment hero on the Nightcap back in

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment. It's always nice to have this young

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>lady on. We only have really talked to her once before,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and then I really couldn't talk to her because it

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was election day and she had absolutely lost her voice.

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>But she is in full throated glory now. Independent journalist

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Karen Clifford. She covers a lot of things. She covers

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole gamut, from politics to natural disasters and emergencies.

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>She herself lost so much in the Palisades Park fire

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>in California, so she knows of natural disasters and emergencies.

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>And she also was a big fan of SAT one, two, three,

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>dot com. But Karen is with us now to talk

0:33:55.360 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>about Informed News Network, which she founded this year. And

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really laughable that a journalist has to

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>have found the Informed News Network because I see so

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>many so called journalists every day on TV and elsewhere

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>who simply don't act like they know anything. They're not

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>informed on anything. They just parent talking points that have

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>been sent out by whatever their powers at V are

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Krin Clifford. Welcome to the Nightcap.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you?

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 8>I am so grateful to be with you today. It

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 8>is basically snowing in Washington, DC. It's about thirty degrees

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 8>out and it is freezing at the White House yesterday.

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 8>My toes FROs, my fingers FROs. So I am so

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 8>excited to get the truths to the public because there

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 8>is so much uninformed news in the White House Press Corps,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 8>in the Senate Press Corps, and now the Pentagon. The

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 8>Pentagon has created a whole new press corps which is

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 8>super exciting. Tons of my life friends who are real journalists,

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 8>like James O'Keefe and Laura Luma, and they have the

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 8>most amazing press corps now with cam Higbee and so

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 8>what the Pentagon is doing. I think is super critical

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 8>to happen for every agency in Washington, DC because there

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 8>is so much fake news. As a matter of fact,

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 8>you and I were discussing the fout that the White

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 8>House now has a whole website on white House dot

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 8>com that exposes the fake news.

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.879
<v Speaker 4>Yep, yeah, it's about time.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned mister O'Keefe, it's nice to have Project

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Veritas not have to go undercover. Now they can be

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>out in the open and actually give people the information

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that most of us want. There was a new study

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>out that showed that a majority of young people and

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>not voters, but thirteen to eighteen year olds, don't trust

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the news media. I mean a majority of kids just

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.919
<v Speaker 1>think that it's all fake and biased. So even they

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>know what has been going on in our news media

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in this country, cared.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And that's what I'm really concerned about because I'm

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 8>actually in the White House Press Corp. And yesterday I

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 8>actually was confronted by a couple of the fake news journalists.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't want to say their names, but the bottom

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 8>line is, you know, one of them's with the independence

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 8>that the White House is exposing to be fake news,

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 8>and you know, they are saying crazy stuff, saying President

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 8>Trump is preasoners. They're saying things like, you know, Pete

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 8>Headsets doesn't have the right to bomb the drug boats.

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's getting ridiculous at this point.

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 4>These are journalists saying this.

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 8>They're saying a lot of fake news, and the Trump

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 8>administration is actually beginning to expose them. Yeah, and so

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 8>I think that's good for all of us because everyone

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 8>who pays their cable bill and they paid for these

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 8>news agencies where they paid for these these news memberships. Okay, Politico,

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 8>one of my best friends is suing Politico for one

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 8>hundred and fifty million dollars because Politico wrote fake news

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 8>about him. Another one of my friends is having.

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 3>To sue President Trump. Had to sue.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 8>President Trump, had to sue CBS, President Trump had to

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 8>sue YouTube. I mean, it's never ending with the fake news.

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 8>So where are these news narratives coming from. That's what

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 8>I'm concerned about. Potentially a lot of these news nerdalists

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of these news narratives are people who

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 8>are real Democrats, people who are real Antifa type liberals,

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 8>and or being paid for their news narratives. But I'm

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 8>really worried that there's still is CIA mockingbird media because

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 8>this is what I'm worried about. I go to all

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 8>the press conferences, I'm in the White House pretty much

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 8>every day. There's fifty five seats. Who's actually in those

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 8>fifty five seats? New media like me, we have to

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 8>stand on the sides. So what I'm concerned about is

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 8>in those fifty five seats, I rarely see the same

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 8>people show up. That's what I'm worried about. So every

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 8>time there's a new person in one of these fifty

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 8>five seats, that means that there is someone creating their

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 8>news narrative and telling them what to say. Their questions

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 8>are too calculated. Oh so there is a very dangerous

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 8>component to the news and I do believe it. How

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 8>to do with the CIA mockingbird media that President Trump

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 8>hasn't been able to fire yet. The head of the

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 8>CIA requip we haven't fired these people yet, and I

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 8>don't know why.

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's such an entrenched administrative state. I mean, people

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>talk about the deep state and the swamp carenn but

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>it is real. It has been around entrenched in Washington,

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 1>d C. Unelected bureaucrats and people who want to wield

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>that power without any kind of accountability or responsibility to

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the voter, which the Constitution doesn't call for a fourth

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>branch of government, but that's exactly what it is, and oftentimes, sadly,

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it is more powerful than the judicial, the legislative, or

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the executive branch. And it's been there entrenched for a

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>long long time. You can't root that out in a

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>few months time. But President Trump and the White House

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>have been absolutely efforting to do that.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 4>I would, I will, that's what we're fighting.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 8>And listen, they have found a way to fund themselves

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 8>with government grants. So the real news is that these

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 8>news agencies have found ways to cover themselves. Like NPR, PBS,

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 8>Political they get government grants. Politico is owned by a

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 8>very wealthy globalist in Germany. It's not America. First, it's

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 8>not American. They don't care about America. And so we

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 8>really need to weed this stuff out, like the Pentagon

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 8>has just done in their press corps.

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, when the taxpayers of Minnesota give a bill million

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars to a terrorist organization in Somalia, you know you

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>know that again, that's something that is just now being reported.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It's been going on de facto. For the entire seven

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>years of Tim waltz tenure as governor of Minnesota, there

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>have been twenty eight at least twenty eight large fraudulent

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>thefts of taxpayer money in the name of charity in

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota since he's been governor.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine if that man was Vice president.

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to switch gears Corin and talk about as

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the uninformed news network and the people

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>who are just parroting narratives for globalist and Marxist means

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>in the White House, press corps and elsewhere. This Venezuela

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>drug boat hoax that is now going around and you

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.320
<v Speaker 1>know something about this, are trying to pit the Secretary

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of War Pete Hegseth against the commander in chief, Donald Trump.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>You can talk to that for a few moments, if

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you would please.

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 8>I'm very concerned about that, because that's what these news

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 8>media agencies that are fake news potential CIA deep state

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 8>potential agencies that are run and funded by foreign governments

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 8>that we don't even know where understand, like Politico. Basically,

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 8>what they're trying to do is pit President Trump against

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 8>his actual cabinet members. Right now, as you and I

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 8>are talking, President Trump is having a cabinet meeting. Because

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 8>this is what they're trying to do. They try to

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 8>get in between President Trump and as cabinet members. They

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.919
<v Speaker 8>try to get in between President Trump and his core

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 8>base of America first patriots and make them fight with

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 8>each other. And you know, they're accusing President Trump of

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 8>who knows treason. I mean, this is ridiculous. President Trump

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 8>is totally within his legal authority to protect us in

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 8>the United States of America, and everything he's doing is

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 8>protecting us America first.

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 8>So I'm very concerned about this, and I'm grateful that

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 8>you're letting me talk to you about this because this

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 8>is the most in banned and censor news and you know,

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 8>a lot of Americans just can't handle this, and so

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 8>they just watch the news. It's easy to get to,

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.720
<v Speaker 8>but it's really time to pick and choose the news

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 8>that you watch, and it's getting few and far between.

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 8>I can tell you that the people that I trust

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 8>in the news are under twelve, potentially ten people and

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 8>it's not the people you would think. So it's and

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 8>it changes every month because people are just selling out

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 8>and I'm just very concerned. I'm worried that a lot

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 8>of the state news is funded by foreign interests, potentially

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 8>the Chinese Communist Party.

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's no question that the CCP has a vested

0:42:55.120 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>interest in infiltrating and in indoctrinate not only the media

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>but the American public for their own personal gain and

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>their efforts that have gone on now for more than

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>one hundred years to be the dominant power on the

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>world stage. I wanted to talk to you too about

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>what happened sadly Thanksgiving with our National Guardsman Sarah who

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>was murdered and her other fellow National Guardsman from West

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Virginia who has been clinging to life in the hospital,

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and this Afghani who was let in by the Biden

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>administration in the wake of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the thousands of others who came with him, who the

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>CIA says, we're thoroughly vetted, and he had been well

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 1>known to the CIA and helped them for years in Afghanistan,

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>so they felt like he was no threat to come

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to America and have a life that maybe he was

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>promised by those CIA operatives and this guy, there's no

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>way that they could have vetted eighty six thousand people,

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>especially coming from Afghanistan. And that's why President Trump has

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 1>been so vigilant and vehement about stopping halting all immigration

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 1>from all of these countries where they don't love America,

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't love American or Western values, and they you know,

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>the places where there's basically no government whatsoever to even

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>tell you who these people are.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 8>Very concerning because I was there actually and I got

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 8>stuck in a lockdown. We got locked down at the

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 8>White House, and we didn't know what was going on.

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.399
<v Speaker 8>And I was fully prepared because let me just tell

0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 8>you something, I walk around with a bullet priest pack

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 8>and a satellite phone, and I walk around with my

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 8>important things like keys and critical credit cards, government IDs

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 8>in a Faraday bag.

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 6>And that's what's so.

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:15.800
<v Speaker 8>Important, is that I want everyone to go to SAT

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:19.959
<v Speaker 8>one two three right now, it's SAT one two three.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 8>I want them to go there. And this makes the

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 8>best Christmas holiday gifts. And I think it's so important

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 8>to buy as much as you can afford to buy,

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 8>because everything I get from SAT one two three SAT

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 8>one two three dot com I use, and so I

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:39.720
<v Speaker 8>actually felt safe in this situation I know that sounds crazy.

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 8>It was really traumatic and I was there and I

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 8>got caught up. They closed everything off, and first they

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 8>told me that the two National Guards people were from Alabama,

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 8>and they first they told me they were both dead.

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 8>So in the beginning I didn't have right information because

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 8>the police are known to give us fake information. And

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 8>then I couldn't stay there until Cashpetel started telling us

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 8>the real information. There was so much conflicting information, which

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 8>I think is really important people understand that. And so now,

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 8>of course you know the twenty year old National Guards women,

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 8>they're from West Virginia. She has passed. And the other gentlemen.

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 8>I don't even like to say his name, but pray

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 8>for him in spirit because he's fighting for his life.

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he'll make it. Even if he does

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 8>make it, it's a tragedy. But thank you God that no

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 8>one else got sot in the soft fire, because since

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 8>I have been to the location and the Afghan national

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 8>was using some type of a handgun and there were

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 8>lots of bullets everywhere. It wasn't just one or two

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 8>or three.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Arm was shooting.

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Karin, thank you so much for your time. Ours is

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>UPSat one two three dot com. Let's get that in

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>again for your safety in times of emergency or in

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the times we live in. I appreciate it and keep

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>up the good work.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Karin. Thank you, so God.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 8>Bless you, thank you.

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Petere Hedy December two, twenty twenty five. Joining us now

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>for this half hour is a guy that I've been

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>talking to for eons now it seems about the Internet

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>of things world in which we live, AI chat, GPT, hoaxes,

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>things to watch out for on your cell phone, and

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>anything else he can think of that has called from

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>today's tech headlines. And because of his warnings and admonitions

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to me and to you through the years, I've fended

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>off another attack over the weekend. Dave Hatter from Interest

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>It is here also the mayor of fort Wright.

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 4>By the way, were you were you.

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Manning the snowplows this morning? Dave and fort Wright?

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 6>Well and always Gary Jeff, thanks for having me on.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 6>And no, I was not managed to snow plows this morning.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 6>We have a crack team and our three person public

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.919
<v Speaker 6>works department and some other folks that come in to

0:47:58.920 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 6>get the job done.

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>When you say crack team, are you speaking to their

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 1>acumen or their addictions their acumen. Okay, okay, very very good.

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>So first and foremost, I wanted to tell you. I

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>think I did call you over the weekend telling you

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>how proud I was that I'd learned from all of

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>your tutelage about phone calls. I got a phone call

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>at nine o'clock on Friday night and i'm you know,

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to go to bed to get ready for

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning. And it's a US Bank, so they said.

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was even the number that I use to

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>contact US Bank, the eight hundred number that came up

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>on my phone and said US Bank. So I answered it,

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and the voice on the other end said, good afternoon.

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, it's even if you were on the

0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 1>West coast, it's not afternoon anymore. Okay, who's this? Well

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>it's evening, thank you sir, Well, good evening. Then this

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>is US Bank fraud Security. Do you know someone named

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Blah Blah blah in Florida? And did you issue a

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred dollars payment to them through your account?

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I said no, I don't know anybody in Florida not

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:27.320
<v Speaker 1>with that name. And I didn't. That's not me Okay, well,

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>we just want to verify. We need the last four

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>digits of your social Security number just to verify. I said, no,

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting the last four digits of my social

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Security number or any other information for me. By that

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>way over the phone, I did the right thing.

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.879
<v Speaker 3>Right, Dave, you did?

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 6>You did, Cary, Jeff, And you know, I've had a

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 6>similar type of scenario. I want to come back to yours.

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 6>But like in my case, my wife and I are

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 6>sitting on the couch. She gets a phone call from

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 6>purportedly from USAA, that's who we bank with. There's some

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.760
<v Speaker 6>kind of fraud on your account, blah blah, blah blah.

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 6>And I'm like, okay, this is some kind of scam.

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:05.919
<v Speaker 3>Hang up.

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.800
<v Speaker 6>And you know, then we went and logged into our account,

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 6>checked to make sure everything was okay, went ahead and

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 6>changed our paths where it just to be safe. But

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 6>one of the reasons why this thing is prevalent, right is,

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 6>first off, it's really easy to spoof a phone number.

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 6>It takes almost zero technical skill to send a text

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 6>or make a phone call and make the number that

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 6>appears on the recipient's phone any number I want it

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 6>to be. You know, the phone system is old. It's

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 6>been around for over one hundred years. When it was designed,

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 6>it was not designed to stop this sort of spoofing, right,

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 6>so it's trivially easy for bad guys to make a

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 6>call appear from any number. So you know, my typical

0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 6>advice is never answer the phone from a number you

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.840
<v Speaker 6>don't recognize if it's important to leave a message. But understand,

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 6>even if you recognize the number, like in your case,

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.879
<v Speaker 6>it does not mean it's legit, and people really really

0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 6>need to take that the heart first off. So you know,

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.839
<v Speaker 6>if you see a number come across and it looks

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 6>like a familiar number, year you trust it and you

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 6>answer the phone, which you know in that case, I

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 6>could understand why you would. Then you have got to

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 6>be immediately incredibly skeptical understand that in many cases, So

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 6>is it random chance that you just happened to get

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 6>a call from your bank quote unquote? Maybe you know

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 6>in some cases these sorts of phishing attacks. Now, in

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:29.359
<v Speaker 6>text messages it's called smishing, and in voice calls it's

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 6>called fishing, but it's all basically the same idea. I'm

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.279
<v Speaker 6>just going to blast stuff out there, right, Some of

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 6>these phishing attacks are just random. They're just blasting stuff

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 6>out and you know, hoping that you won't question that

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 6>that's I don't use this bank. Right, but thanks to

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 6>all of the giant data leaks and data breaches we've

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 6>had over the years, national public data, for example, billions

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 6>of records lost. It's a background check company. Think about

0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 6>the sense of information you put out there in a

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 6>background check. Places you've worked, places you've lived, places you've banked,

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 6>all kinds of sensitive stuff. Right, So when the hackers

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 6>have access to that information, they can know, hey, when

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 6>we send this text or when we make this call

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 6>to this Gary Jeff Walker guy, he uses this bank.

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 6>This bank's phone number is X. So it is entirely

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 6>within the realm of possibility that it's not just random

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 6>chance they hit your bank. They're using information that they

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 6>have bought, stolen, etc. From all these leaks to target you.

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 6>They know you use a certain bank, they know you

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 6>use Amazon or whatever. The scam is. Right, So if

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 6>you know that the phone number is easily spoofed, just

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 6>like an email address is easily spoofed, and and you

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 6>know they have all this sensitive information so they can

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 6>claim to be from bank x oh, and yeah, they

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 6>might even know like, well, you bank a branch such

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 6>and such. Just because you're talking to someone that seems

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:54.799
<v Speaker 6>to have information that only that legitimate entity has does

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 6>not mean they're legit. And as the FBI says, I'm

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 6>reading directly from their know that legitimate companies will never

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 6>call you.

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 2>And offer tex support out of the blue. If you

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:08.319
<v Speaker 2>get a call like this, hang up right. Never let

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 2>someone have remote access to your computer. Never get out

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>your credentials, especially if it's financially rate. If you're using

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>name of password, it's financially related, because they're going to

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 2>get into your account and lock you out and steal

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.320
<v Speaker 2>your money. And getting back now to this Apple angle,

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 2>So Forbes recently reported on this now and this is

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:29.720
<v Speaker 2>not an Apple specific problem, but there are sophisticated attacks.

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>They've been done to Google users. They're now targeting Apple users.

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Where you get a phone call, or you might get

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 2>a text message with like an MFA code, and then

0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Apple is suddenly calling you on the phone.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, it'll probably show up with a number that looks

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 6>like it's from Apple. This is the tax support scam idea.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 6>You know, once they get into your Apple account, Could

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 6>they get into your bank account?

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Could they do?

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 6>Who knows what? Hard to say. A lot of people

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 6>have the same bad shared passwords. Don't have the MFA

0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 6>turned on. If you get a call, Apple has very

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 6>clearly said they will not call you like this, right.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 6>Google has said will not call you like this. Microsoft

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 6>has said they will not call you like this. If

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 6>you get a call like this, chance it's a scam,

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 6>it's probably enough, yes, and then you go. If you're

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 6>worried about it, you go, log into your Apple account,

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 6>log into your Google account, log into your Microsoft account,

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 6>log into your bank account. Do not click the links,

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 6>do not call the numbers, do not take the bait.

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Now, it's it's just as simple as that.

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:36.879
<v Speaker 1>It's bogus because they've already told you they're not going

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>to call you regardless.

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.319
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, you just you're right.

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 1>You just got to be vigilant and be aware that

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 1>this stuff is going on, and that's why we're here

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about it. Child safety advocates warned parents to avoid

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>avoid AI toys this Christmas. We kind of talked about

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the Teddy Bear describing sexual fetishes and the like.

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 4>This is an extension of that, is it not.

0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 6>It is Gary, Jeff. I mean it's the idea that

0:55:09.239 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean. First off, as we've discussed before, Internet are

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 6>things devices aka smart devices, which includes toys children's toys,

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 6>have been a concern for some time. I mean the

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 6>literality is probably going back more than ten years that

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 6>you don't have to look too hard to find all

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 6>kinds of privacy and security flaws in these children's toys

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 6>that connect to the Internet, whether it's you know, known vulnerabilities,

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 6>whether it's recording that you don't understand. Because keep in mind,

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.280
<v Speaker 6>many of these toys have cameras and microphones in them,

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.839
<v Speaker 6>because that's how you interact with them, right. You know,

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 6>we've seen stories over the years of web cameras getting

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:47.320
<v Speaker 6>packed and weird people talking to people's kids for these things.

0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 6>If you have a toy that can connect to the internet,

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, ask yourself, did the toy manufacturer focus on

0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 6>the privacy and security of this device and of my

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:59.320
<v Speaker 6>children playing with it? Or do they focus on things

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 6>like market share, speed to market, and ease of use?

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 6>And you know, that's that's my issue with the so

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 6>called smart devices across the board is as a consumer,

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 6>they are not focused on their privacy and security. They

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:16.400
<v Speaker 6>are not focused on protecting you. They're focused on selling

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 6>as much of these things, many of these as they can,

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 6>to as many people as possible, making it as easy

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.279
<v Speaker 6>to use as possible so people will use them, and

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 6>then collecting as much data as possible to you know,

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 6>further monetize your data. So when you give your kid

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 6>a toy like this, again, forget the AI piece for

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 6>a minute, just right off the bat, you know, do

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 6>you did you change the default password? Do you know

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 6>how to set it up for software updates so that

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 6>eventually there's not a vulnerability in the kid's toy that

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 6>allows hackers to get into your home or office network

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 6>and do much more nefarious things. Then you throw in

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:50.879
<v Speaker 6>the AI angle. I mean, you and I have talked

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 6>about this before. It's well documented if you go look,

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, there's all kinds of issues with AI making

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.240
<v Speaker 6>people lose their minds, AI telling people to do crazy things.

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 6>In this specific Teddy Bear story where a researcher was

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 6>purposely trying to see what it would do, and you know,

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 6>was asking questions about like hey, where can I get NDS?

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.399
<v Speaker 6>And the AI in this thing told the kids like, oh,

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 6>they're usually in the kitchen and such so as a

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 6>cautionary tale. Now, you know, my kids are not of

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 6>an age where this would matter anymore, and I don't

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.720
<v Speaker 6>have any grandkids yet. But I'm sure you know what

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to say next, which is, there's absolutely no chance,

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 6>no chance I would give my young children or my

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 6>grandchildren any kind of AI internet connected toy. Do you

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 6>understand what it's recording when it's recording? Do you want

0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 6>your kids' conversations to be sucked up, analyzed, sold to

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:45.560
<v Speaker 6>someone else, or conversations you might be heaving with your

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 6>kids that you don't understand are being recorded. Do you

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 6>really want your kid exposed to some AI bot that's

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.080
<v Speaker 6>telling them who knows what without any real oversight over it?

0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 6>Like you could at least have on a computer or

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 6>a tamphlet or something. In my mind, and there is

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 6>just no way you could justify getting a young child some.

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Sort of toile like this, no doubt.

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 6>Stay away from these things, or at least at least

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 6>do your research and vet them.

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Carefully, care more more carefully than probably some of the

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Afghanis were vetted when they came into the country. Dave

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Hatter is with us for another quick segment. We'll come

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>back and talk about SMB's what they are and how

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>they can protect you this holiday shopping season.

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 4>And we just had cyber Monday yesterday.

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Dave Hatter on the Nightcap back in just a moment

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>our it Guy Tech Talk Doomsday. Dave with the aluminum

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 1>foil hat securely placed on his head so the aliens

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:54.640
<v Speaker 1>cannot read his thoughts. Dave, what are SMBs and this

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is some kind of layered security, but I don't know

0:58:57.000 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>much about it. And how can SMBs so called protect

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you this holidays season from cyber threats?

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so they're what they're talking about here. This is

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 6>an article from a chief security officer online, and they're

0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 6>they're warning small businesses, small medium businesses, that's what they

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 6>mean by S and D in this case, are always

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 6>under attack because they typically don't have the deep pockets,

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 6>they don't have the resources, they don't have the experienced

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:28.920
<v Speaker 6>team that larger companies have to depend against this and

0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:33.439
<v Speaker 6>also normally during any kind of holiday extended off time,

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 6>you're going to see increased attacks on businesses. You know,

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 6>what bad guys like to do is assuming they can

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 6>get a foothold in your environment, whether that's somehow they

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 6>find a vulnerability in your firewall or some smart IoT

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 6>device that's not set upright, or they just are able

0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 6>to compromise someone's identity right, they're able to guess the

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 6>username and password or get a user name of password

0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 6>up the dark web, they get in and in many cases,

0:59:57.480 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 6>if they're going to drop ransomware, which is you knowftware

1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:02.840
<v Speaker 6>that encrypts your data to shuts your systems down and

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:05.480
<v Speaker 6>then you have to pay to unlock it, and they

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 6>usually steal the data too. So when you say, oh, hey,

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 6>I listened to Old Dean's Day Dave Hatter, I got

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 6>a good backup. I don't need to pay your ransom

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 6>because I can just wipe my systems in the store

1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 6>and go on about my business. Then they'll threaten to

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 6>release your data online unless.

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<v Speaker 3>You pay right.

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<v Speaker 6>It gives them extra leverage to extort you even if

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 6>you're not down because of the ransomware. So what they

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<v Speaker 6>like to do is wait till a holiday weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you.

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<v Speaker 6>Have a three day weekend coming up, if they can

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<v Speaker 6>launch their attack let's say on a Friday night, knowing

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:36.360
<v Speaker 6>no one's going to be back in the office until Monday.

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<v Speaker 6>They can inflict maximum damage. Right there's no one paying attention.

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:43.160
<v Speaker 6>They can hit the maximum amount of systems. They can

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 6>inflict maximum damage, thus increasing the likelihood you're going to pay.

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<v Speaker 6>So this article is basically saying, hey, it's a small business,

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.400
<v Speaker 6>you need to understand these things. They got an interesting

1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:57.840
<v Speaker 6>static here small and medium sized businesses. Twenty nine percent

1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 6>of businesses with fewer than twenty five employees and nearly

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 6>one in five mid size businesses have or have experienced

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<v Speaker 6>a ransomware attack in twenty five nineteen percent of them. Sorry,

1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 6>that didn't come out very clear, And again, ransomware can

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 6>be an existential threat. If you don't have good backups

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<v Speaker 6>and you don't pay the ransom where they decide not

1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:21.400
<v Speaker 6>to give you the decryption key, well, your systems are

1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:24.400
<v Speaker 6>just wrecked. And you know, can you survive that hard

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<v Speaker 6>to say. But the point they're going to make also

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<v Speaker 6>is Windows ten with end of life, which means no

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<v Speaker 6>more security updates for Microsoft, and they're saying you need

1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:37.160
<v Speaker 6>to take a multi tiered approach. You want technological tools

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:41.520
<v Speaker 6>in place, things like anti virus, email spam filtering, DNS filtering,

1:01:41.920 --> 1:01:44.600
<v Speaker 6>to try to block the bad guys. You want training

1:01:44.640 --> 1:01:47.040
<v Speaker 6>in place so that your team is aware of the

1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 6>kind of threats they're going to face, like phishing and

1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:52.880
<v Speaker 6>social engineering and sense worth. And then you need systems

1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:55.480
<v Speaker 6>in place so that if and when an event does

1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:58.760
<v Speaker 6>occur you do have a successful cyber attack, you can

1:01:59.080 --> 1:02:01.520
<v Speaker 6>contain it and re cover quickly from it. Where the

1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 6>minimum downtime the minimum costs to you. I mean, this

1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 6>is the stuff we're to preach in every day as

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.840
<v Speaker 6>a business Cary Jess. You know, there's nothing you can

1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.840
<v Speaker 6>do to make yourself your business completely impervious to this stuff,

1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:15.080
<v Speaker 6>but there are things you can do focused on risk

1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:18.600
<v Speaker 6>to make your business a much and frankly yourself a

1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:22.400
<v Speaker 6>much more difficult target. You know, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially with a small business. H It's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>The reason you have these systems in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>is it it makes it easier for you to run

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<v Speaker 1>with the skeleton crew of people, a small amount of people.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it would be practical and you can fairly

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<v Speaker 1>easily do it, isn't it good to have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>copy backup of all the important stuff that you've got.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, certainly, you know one of the things that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I recommend every business have an incident response plan,

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<v Speaker 6>an ideally cybersecurity insurance. Ay, just going through the insurance

1:02:56.600 --> 1:03:00.320
<v Speaker 6>process will help you understand what insurance companies see his

1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:03.080
<v Speaker 6>threats and things you need to depend against, and then

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<v Speaker 6>an incident response planned. Okay, if and when I have

1:03:06.000 --> 1:03:08.080
<v Speaker 6>an incident, it doesn't have to be a cyber attack.

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<v Speaker 6>It could be my server crashed, we had a tornado. Whatever,

1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:13.960
<v Speaker 6>my systems are down right, what do I need to

1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:15.960
<v Speaker 6>do to recover? Who do I need to call so

1:03:16.000 --> 1:03:19.080
<v Speaker 6>that when that crisis hits you're not scrambled around? And

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<v Speaker 6>the reason I bring that up is because people will

1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:24.520
<v Speaker 6>often create these things, keep them in a digital format only,

1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:27.600
<v Speaker 6>and then they lose it when the system crashes. So yes,

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<v Speaker 6>having a hard copy, a secure hard copy in a

1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:35.080
<v Speaker 6>safe or something of critical data is always a good

1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:38.240
<v Speaker 6>backup approach to make sure that if and when your

1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:41.160
<v Speaker 6>systems crash, you know you're good to go. Now. I

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<v Speaker 6>will also throw out one key idea and the world

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<v Speaker 6>of backups, you'll hear about the backup rule of three

1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:49.560
<v Speaker 6>to two one. This works well for individuals too. But

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<v Speaker 6>the idea of the backup rule of three two. One

1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:54.600
<v Speaker 6>is you have for any critical data, anything you can't

1:03:54.640 --> 1:03:57.520
<v Speaker 6>afford to lose, you have three copies of it. The

1:03:57.520 --> 1:04:00.920
<v Speaker 6>production copy you're working off of, the other copy stored

1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.800
<v Speaker 6>on a different medium could be an external disc, could

1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:06.640
<v Speaker 6>be a network attached storage or whatever. And then a

1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:09.400
<v Speaker 6>third copy that's off site, ideally in some sort of

1:04:09.400 --> 1:04:13.120
<v Speaker 6>cloud based backup that's happening automatically, so that even if

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<v Speaker 6>the two copies on site are destroyed somehow, you can

1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:19.000
<v Speaker 6>still fall back to a third copy that it's safe

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<v Speaker 6>somewhere else. Yeah, you know these are all and that

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<v Speaker 6>speaks to the resiliency idea that, Okay, when an event occurs,

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't have to be a cyber attack again, could be

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<v Speaker 6>a natural disaster. You've got something you can fall back on,

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<v Speaker 6>an ideal. You're testing it to make sure that it's

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<v Speaker 6>available and workable when you need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Great information. Dave Hatter as always my friend. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>again and sleep tight. We'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Always my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Gary, Jeff, you got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Dave Hatter with us on the nightcap.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back to wrap up with the fur ball

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<v Speaker 1>in minutes afternoons. Ah do I long for these conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a junkie. I'm like scratching it in my arms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm freezing cold all a sudden and then sweating

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<v Speaker 1>the next because I got to get my fix of

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<v Speaker 1>the fur ball. I'm like a junkie on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and and now I get my dose. I get

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<v Speaker 1>to to as the as the junkies say, I get

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<v Speaker 1>to get well for a few minutes. So here is

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<v Speaker 1>my fix of Furman on a nightcap on seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>w L W Oh did you bring this stuff?

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<v Speaker 4>Andy?

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<v Speaker 3>The stuff? Yeah? I always bring this stuff. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm ready for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good boy boy, I'll tell you what. The DT's

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<v Speaker 1>are terrible when I when I don't get enough Andy Furman.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I know.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something wrong with you. I guess you can think

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<v Speaker 3>get a life, But you know, there's there's so much

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<v Speaker 3>out there, and really and truly, I think we've got

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<v Speaker 3>to lead off for college football because that's the story

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<v Speaker 3>of the day right now. And one of the stories

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<v Speaker 3>obviously was Lank kissing. And it's really a funny story

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, I'm on the weekend. I'm on Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>morning on Fox Sports Radio, and I saw the show up,

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<v Speaker 3>say hey, Lane, where you're going because you said Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to make a decision be at Florida or LSU,

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<v Speaker 3>and ended up going to LSU. And you know, after

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<v Speaker 3>a while that kind of got old.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the grain standing was disgusting. I really believe

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<v Speaker 3>that you're hurting the school. You're you're hurting the kids

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<v Speaker 3>that you recruited for that school. And I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 3>they a thought the arrector and to a president that

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<v Speaker 3>started to put the lock and bolt on his office

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<v Speaker 3>door and say, you know what, you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to LSU. God bless you get the hell out. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who has always been one step out the

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<v Speaker 3>door wherever he's been. He was fired on the carmack

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<v Speaker 3>at the tarmac, I mean on the at the airport

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<v Speaker 3>when he was coaching USC. He coaches a Tennessee for

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<v Speaker 3>what they were seven and six.

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<v Speaker 4>He got fired there.

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<v Speaker 1>They threw him out of Knoxville, that's for sure, real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, so the guy's been all over I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like a like a fifty nine and eleven record

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<v Speaker 3>at open as he's done, Well, why not stay there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, build a legacy over there. I get it

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<v Speaker 3>for his contrast to be close, like seventy five seventy

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<v Speaker 3>eight million dollars in LSU, A lot of pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>him over there. But you know, here's the thing. There's

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<v Speaker 3>something wrong with this system. When a coach who takes

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<v Speaker 3>the team to the college playoffs, the SEC you know,

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs whatever it may be. Yeah, and then all of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden he's going to both and leave. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at least he talked about it. I mean, Brian Kelly

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<v Speaker 3>was worse. He just left. He didn't say a word.

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<v Speaker 3>He just didn't show up at the banquet for the

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<v Speaker 3>University of Cincinnati. So they got to do something right

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<v Speaker 3>now with this. And you know, I applaud Old miss

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<v Speaker 3>for not letting them coach in the playoff game, silly

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<v Speaker 3>because his coaching would just more or less talk to

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<v Speaker 3>these kids to tell him to go with it. Tell us,

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<v Speaker 3>you well, recruiting them while he's coaching them.

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<v Speaker 4>Andy, You're not the first person.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, almost everyone including the people inside the bubble

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<v Speaker 1>of the coaches and administrators, are saying that college football

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<v Speaker 1>is broken.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, how would you fix it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Number one, you know the portal for the college

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<v Speaker 3>kid for transferring and college football is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>open during the college football playoffs, which is so ridiculous

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<v Speaker 3>because here's the deal. If I'm a kid at school X,

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<v Speaker 3>and I get a great offer monetarily to go to

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<v Speaker 3>a college, and say, wait a second, you know, why

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<v Speaker 3>would I go to a playoff game and endanger my

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<v Speaker 3>monetary economics for an injury? Last factor, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to play. I'm going to both. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>into the portal, I'm gonna go to the school. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's something wrong, I mean, and I don't understand how

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<v Speaker 3>these guys could get in a room and discuss this

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<v Speaker 3>and not look at the downside of what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>The portal should be done after the entire football season,

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs at all are finished. During the playoffs, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely correct on that. I don't think that you

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<v Speaker 1>should have this revolving door while a national championship is

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<v Speaker 1>at stake.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, honestly, as far as exposures concern the publicity,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the top players who in fact would put

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<v Speaker 3>their names in the portal, they'll get more play, more

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<v Speaker 3>publicity than maybe the games themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like omentually Baseball, they're small enough to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>look we're looking at the hold all trades of big

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<v Speaker 3>announcements during the World Series. I get it. The World

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<v Speaker 3>Series is the showcase. They're in the center stage and

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<v Speaker 3>everything else is an ancillary. Let that go roll up

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<v Speaker 3>to someplace else. A lot of people it takes sense,

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<v Speaker 3>it really doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people said about the old system we got.

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<v Speaker 1>There's twelve team playoff. They just announced the teams earlier tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that, you know, it's better for the teams

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<v Speaker 1>to on the field decide the national championship. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can't disagree with that instead of a computer placing four

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<v Speaker 1>teams in there and having a couple of Bowl games

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<v Speaker 1>to determine it. But it's twelve teams too many, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>you think.

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<v Speaker 3>You think it is, But it's not too many for

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<v Speaker 3>the pocketbooks. That's the thing. Well, you know when they

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<v Speaker 3>have a question that Chris collins Worth the Wayswoman is

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<v Speaker 3>if you have a question, you know the answer is

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<v Speaker 3>follow the dots. Is always about the guelt, the green cabbage,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what it is. It's all about the money.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what this is. And I remember way back

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<v Speaker 3>when when they never even had a championship game played

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<v Speaker 3>for college football. It was the Associated Press and the

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<v Speaker 3>United President the Nationals. They chose the college champion, AP champion,

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<v Speaker 3>and the UPI champion. So at least they're playing, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember your last year and the year prior

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<v Speaker 3>to that, they had four teams, and it was so

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<v Speaker 3>excited because look, the team had to get one loss

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<v Speaker 3>and basically you're on the hook. One loss, you may

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<v Speaker 3>not get in. And that team that was fifth, pressing

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<v Speaker 3>its nose against the glass. There was always a great story,

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<v Speaker 3>a controversial story. Should they have gotten it? Should they

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<v Speaker 3>have made it? Now with twelve, you're gonna get teams

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<v Speaker 3>with two losses for sure, and maybe several with three.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and again, you know, what's the point in

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<v Speaker 3>playing throughout the entire season is you're going to play

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<v Speaker 3>again and meet the same teams again.

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<v Speaker 1>I just but this also allows even with twelve teams, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>it also allows for teams to be pressing their against

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<v Speaker 1>the glass. Now with only two losses. My Vanderbilt Commodores,

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<v Speaker 1>darn Well should have be considered for and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they were at a certain point. But you know teams

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<v Speaker 1>like that who had incredible seasons. You know, Vandy has

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<v Speaker 1>never won ten games in any college football season ever

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<v Speaker 1>in their entire school history.

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<v Speaker 4>They won nine. The last time they won.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine games was nineteen fifteen, and they had this remarkable

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<v Speaker 1>ten and two season. They their last game they beat

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<v Speaker 1>their rival ut on Tennessee's field. Tennessee was ranked nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt fourteenth. But even at ten and two in the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, are on the outside looking in more

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<v Speaker 1>than likely, and and everybody else, like you said, you

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<v Speaker 1>got you got two loss teams. Notre Dame gets the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of being Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the key, you know. You know what. Obviously Myami

1:12:00.320 --> 1:12:03.040
<v Speaker 3>of Florida beat not to Dam early on, and they've

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<v Speaker 3>been ranked a head of notes. There's been rent a

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<v Speaker 3>head of them all season long. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always going to be an argument right there. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think this Miami team is one of those teams

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know what you're going to get on any

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<v Speaker 3>given Saturday. There they're one heck of a team and

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<v Speaker 3>an explosive team, but maybe the competition they played against,

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<v Speaker 3>they only played as good as a competition in their conference,

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<v Speaker 3>which was not that great of a conference. And the

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<v Speaker 3>downside of Vanderbilt is the conference they playing. It's so strong,

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<v Speaker 3>the Big Ten obviously, and the SEC one two or

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<v Speaker 3>two one, if you will, as far as college football

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<v Speaker 3>powers are concerned. That's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's pretty and maybe there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many teams in the conferences. It's pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty telling that the Big Ten championship coming up

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend is one versus two in the nation, Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State versus Indiana. That could that has the potential, that

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<v Speaker 1>is all the earmarks of being a national championship game

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<v Speaker 1>right there, without the playoffs exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a shame, isn't it. It really is, because

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<v Speaker 3>that game maybe better than the national championship game. Seriously, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I may have more interest.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a shame for Hoosier fans. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're right about that. I mean, and again,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the bottom line is this. If it's about

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<v Speaker 3>the money, let's go one step further. I mean you

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<v Speaker 3>could turn on any talk radio show in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>sports talk, national locos may be I promise you I

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<v Speaker 3>promise you they cannot get away without talking about gambling,

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<v Speaker 3>and get I get the reason why. It's it's part

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. To me, it's killing the game. And

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<v Speaker 3>as long as they're sponsoring these shows, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about them. I hear it all the time. I

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<v Speaker 3>hear it all you. Look, I'm very fortunate because I

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<v Speaker 3>work at Fox Sports Radio, and yeah, they do talk

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<v Speaker 3>gambling on the shows, and they have the shows on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>You know whose favorite? How many points? Because I work

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<v Speaker 3>with a guy by the name of Bucky Brooks who

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<v Speaker 3>played in the NFL and he works for the Jackson Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not permitted to talk about gambling because he works

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<v Speaker 3>for the NFL, which I love because I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about gambling. There are too many great stories

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<v Speaker 3>out there. You want to talk about gamb Look, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not opposed to it. I worked at racetracks most of

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<v Speaker 3>my life, But go ahead and gamble. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>people want to tune on a radio show to hear

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<v Speaker 3>odds and lines about games about hosts that have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea how they could predict the game. Because look what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening in the NFL this year. You can't even predict

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<v Speaker 3>the game the other day that Carolina was going to

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<v Speaker 3>beat the Rams. Are you kidding? You just can't predict it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I talk about it. You know, there are better

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<v Speaker 3>stories out there and game stories rather than just talk

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<v Speaker 3>about points and gambling. And I won't do it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have predicted that the Giants were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get crushed last night by New England. Well that was

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<v Speaker 1>a runaway train from the start of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And well what about the Giants kicker? Oh the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the game? Oh did you see that?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't see the end of it because I

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<v Speaker 4>turned it off already. It was over. It was thirty

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<v Speaker 4>to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it on social media, and look, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>watch the end of the game because it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gone. Really, but you know, really and truly he

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<v Speaker 3>missed it. Looked like he just stopped before he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to kick the foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that was early. That was earlier in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>On social media after the game. But yeah, and the question,

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<v Speaker 3>the question arises has to arise, like was he doing

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<v Speaker 3>that because of the odds on the game? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>with the points. There's a cloud over every game right now,

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<v Speaker 3>especially basketball. Would happen in the NBA and now maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even football. If the guy drops the pass in the

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<v Speaker 3>end zone and the game is not covered by the

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<v Speaker 3>x amount of points, the question is going to be risen.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, did he do it on purpose? Off?

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<v Speaker 1>And And it's all because of the prop bet angle.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you can bet on an individual player, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not even a maybe not even a starter, who is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something or do this or do that

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<v Speaker 1>during the game instead of just what what's the outcome

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, what's the point spread?

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<v Speaker 4>When they get down.

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<v Speaker 1>To the the micro cosm of a game and they

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<v Speaker 1>get to individual players and you know, field goal attempts

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<v Speaker 1>and people are betting on that, that is what opens

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<v Speaker 1>the door for all kinds of fraud and the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of integrity because of gambling.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go on stuff further. You say it opens the door,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you this. The door's open. The door

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<v Speaker 3>is oh right, I mean the door. I mean what's

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<v Speaker 3>happened in the NBA would happened in Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I think there's a cloud over professional sports.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that anytime something like that happens, a mispitch,

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<v Speaker 3>a drop ball, whatever it may be, the question is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be risen like, oh, did he do it

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<v Speaker 3>on perfect? Was he brought up? Or gamble is involved?

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<v Speaker 3>Was Vegas involved?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys?

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to get rid of the prop bets. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to because you're never going to betting.

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<v Speaker 3>Governor the one in Ohio has done that, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 3>is great, but you know one state. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>is that going to do? You bet in Vegas? That's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna not gonna change things. The pro bit Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>People people are you to doing prop bets now?

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<v Speaker 1>So even if you made them technically illegal, there's still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be illegal betting going on on prop bet

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<v Speaker 1>prop bets and players. I mean, because you, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the door is open, Pandora's box has had the lid

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<v Speaker 1>lifted off, and this is what we've got.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, here's my question to you. I'm really I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so out of it with betting. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know what a prop bet is. But some

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<v Speaker 3>of the wines says he wants to eliminate prop bets

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<v Speaker 3>in Ohio. I have a phone, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>go to one of these betting sites. I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>could still better prop bet correct. Sure you sure you could?

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<v Speaker 3>Around you know, he's eliminating prop bets and casinos. I

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<v Speaker 3>would think that's where they're eliminated.

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<v Speaker 4>At the sports books.

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<v Speaker 3>But in other words, I have a phone, and if

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go to bet USA or at MGM,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be, on my phone, I could make

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<v Speaker 3>a prop bet correct.

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<v Speaker 1>You certainly could. All right, I'm sure I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the prop bet police aren't banging down your door five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after you get off the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Handy, right there you go. It's just, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I say this not because I'm opposed to gambling.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the purity of sport and it's really been

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<v Speaker 3>taken away right now. It really has been. It has.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I just all do.

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<v Speaker 1>All of our innocence has been lost, Andy, all of

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<v Speaker 1>our innocence. There's no more innocence.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, if someone went to bet that Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow is going to pass to three hundred yards this

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<v Speaker 3>week in their football game against Buffalo, and he's got

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<v Speaker 3>to eighty to eighty going to the fourth quarter and

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals hand the ball off the entire fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 3>to run out the clock. Don't you think someone's going

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<v Speaker 3>to say, wait a minute, someone had to bet that

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<v Speaker 3>throw the three hundred yards. He didn't do it, because

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<v Speaker 3>that's why they handed the ball off and ran the

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<v Speaker 3>football and didn't pass. Those are the things that are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing, one thing hasn't changed, Andy, was that the

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<v Speaker 1>house always wins and and the bookies always know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen pretty much, And the only time they

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<v Speaker 1>question the legitimacy of betting is when they don't win.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as as long as the bookies are always

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<v Speaker 1>on point with their point spreads and all their other

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<v Speaker 1>bets is long. It's when there are anomalies and the

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<v Speaker 1>house loses, that's when they look into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's my question. Everything for years betty was legal

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<v Speaker 3>in England, and I have all the soccer leagues over there.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't really read or heard about so much controversy

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<v Speaker 3>there as we have here. I do I do understand

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<v Speaker 3>why why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the paraphrase Sam wis, you don't live in England

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<v Speaker 1>you live in Cincinnati. Andy, Listen, I gotta go. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time tonight. As always, I

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<v Speaker 1>got my fix while I'm going home in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's late.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy drive carefully. Thank you all right, my friend. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>see you soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>The fur Ball on a Tuesday night. Back to wrap

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