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Speaker 1: The book is The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the Next Generation

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Speaker 1: I loved what you said. Is the first thing you

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Speaker 4: Adam, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, pick up the book, The Alpha Blueprint. Adam,

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. Having wonderful have a wonderful week.

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Speaker 1: God bless all right, Uh, we'll switch gears and Danny

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Danny, Gary Jeff Hey, great, Great to

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Speaker 1: I know that in your work with a Good Gunbadguy

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Speaker 2: They want to give up our freedom and they know

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Speaker 2: that we real Americans won't let them, and they hate that.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. In the upcoming governor's

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Speaker 1: race you're in New York does does anybody on the

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Speaker 1: right does Stephanic, at least Stephanic have a legitimate chance

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Speaker 1: to beat Kathy Hogle in this governor's race in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixth And what do you.

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Speaker 2: Think when I see local doubtlets, local media outlets say.

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Speaker 3: Local still holds a lead. H They say this a lot.

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Speaker 2: And when I when I see that, I recognize it.

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Speaker 2: When they were talking about Hillary Clinton in the general

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Speaker 2: in the general election, they were saying she's still ahead,

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Speaker 2: she's still ahead, she's still in what happened. But so

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Speaker 2: they need their people to feel good. You remember Democrats

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Speaker 2: and the liberals, they need to be coddled, they need

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Speaker 2: to be they need to feel good. So they're always

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Speaker 2: saying locals in the league. But there's been some polls

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Speaker 2: where Stephanic is showing that she's neck and neck. So

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Speaker 2: I have a good idea that she Stephani could actually

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Speaker 2: take this one because Lee's elden last time around came

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Speaker 2: really close. But I I wouldn't put it past the

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Speaker 2: New York legislature to to make to do some cheating.

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Speaker 2: You know that you never trust trusted Democrats when it

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Speaker 2: comes to that. But so to summarize, the Democrats are saying,

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Speaker 2: the left wing media is saying the hope will still

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Speaker 2: in the lead, but there's some polls coming out this

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Speaker 2: shows disgusted on.

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Speaker 6: Neck and neck.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this is what happens when you get a

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Speaker 1: governor who at first blush in the first allyed what

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Speaker 1: wasn't even elected, was just appointed appointed, appointed.

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Speaker 4: By by Cuomo, and uh then then.

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Speaker 2: You know she and then let me just have been there.

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Speaker 3: Gary.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interrupt you. But then the next time around,

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Speaker 2: she she barely won.

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Speaker 3: And we're talking about a.

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Speaker 2: Democrat majority here, a supermajority in all, and she barely won,

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Speaker 2: but she did have the Democratic machine behind her, which

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Speaker 2: is why she she pulled it off the second time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about that. Well, what's going on with

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Speaker 1: the gun laws as we look to the new year?

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Speaker 3: Dan?

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Speaker 4: What uh? What battles?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys ready to fight to keep people free?

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Speaker 7: Well, we we want right now.

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Speaker 2: The HR thirty eight, which is the Constitutional Concealed Carry

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Speaker 2: Reciprocity Act. That means you'll be able to take your

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Speaker 2: gun regardless of the state you come from, and travel

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Speaker 2: in and out with your concealed carry gun in any

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Speaker 2: state right in the nach and you will be bound

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Speaker 2: by the same you know, concealed carry restrictions of your state,

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Speaker 2: your home state, just like your driver's license. And that's

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Speaker 2: what we really want. And you know, people say, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't, We shouldn't have a permit at all, and

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Speaker 2: I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: But this is a good.

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Speaker 2: Step until we can get ourselves to a place where

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Speaker 2: we can have constitutional carry, which is what our founding

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Speaker 2: fathers always wanted. Constitutional carry. There would be no government

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Speaker 2: issue permission slip needed.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they can't even they can't even vote

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Speaker 1: to keep the government open. How are they, Oh, you're

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Speaker 1: expecting in Congress to pass something that makes so much

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Speaker 1: sense when they can't even fully fund themselves with our money.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You do make it sound ridiculous, I know, but I

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Speaker 2: have high hopes.

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Speaker 4: And the bill again is HR.

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Speaker 2: HR thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Keep your eye on that one, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Just remember thirty eight caliber HR thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Are they still going crazy trying to impose red flag

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Speaker 1: laws across the country?

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Speaker 3: Dan? Oh, of course, red flag laws are.

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Speaker 2: Red flag laws are something that they would just love

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Speaker 2: to have. And I hear Democrats all the time talking

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Speaker 2: about it. Red flag law is probably the most dangerous

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Speaker 2: thing you could you could have because basically it's confiscation

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Speaker 2: without due process. And anybody with red flag laws typically

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Speaker 2: the accuser can be practically anyone and sometimes anonymous, which

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Speaker 2: is scary. So of course they want that. That way,

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Speaker 2: they can, you know, say, oh, well, if they don't

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Speaker 2: get j Walker, he's a he's a risk to society,

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Speaker 2: but don't get his guns, and then we'll figure it

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Speaker 2: out later.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they could actually say I'm a

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Speaker 1: risk to society. They used to say I was a

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Speaker 1: risk to myself, which was probably true.

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Speaker 3: What are you.

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Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, what what are you working on right now?

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Speaker 3: Right now? Yeah, right now, I'm doing a thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned right now with gun free zones, and it's

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Speaker 2: becoming pretty bad across the country. Different states where you know,

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Speaker 2: there's there's laws right now. In New York, for instance,

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Speaker 2: there's a law you know, it still says that you

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Speaker 2: have to put a sign up to welcome guns rather

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Speaker 2: than a sign up, you know, to turning them. So

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Speaker 2: it's called the vampire rule. We call it the vampire rule,

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Speaker 2: and it means that in order to bring a gun

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Speaker 2: into a publicly a publicly accessed private business, you would

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Speaker 2: have to have written permission, in other words, sign on

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Speaker 2: the on the business saying the guns are welcome. That's

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Speaker 2: that's the vampire rule, you know. Vampires. The theory is

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Speaker 2: a vampire couldn't come into your home unless you invited

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Speaker 2: them in.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite, one of my favorite lines

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Speaker 1: from the movie Lass Boys.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well exactly, Well that's what they're you know,

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Speaker 2: that's what they're trying to do with firearms, and nobody's

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Speaker 2: got to put us sign ups saying guns are welcome,

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Speaker 2: because if they do, they're they're going to be afraid

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Speaker 2: of you know, left wingers. You know, you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: Molotov cocktail in their business.

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Speaker 1: Or or you know, right, I said guns were welcome,

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Speaker 1: not molotov cocktails.

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Speaker 4: You commys.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: So that's one thing that I'm concerned with right now

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Speaker 2: is red flag laws. And you want HR thirty eight,

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Speaker 2: and we want our d OJ and Pam Bond to

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Speaker 2: get on board with the removing short barrel rifles, short

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Speaker 2: brow shotguns, and silencers from the National Firearms Act because

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Speaker 2: ultimately it's a registry. It's a gun registry, and we

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Speaker 2: obviously don't want that because once the guns are registered,

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Speaker 2: and then you have red flag laws, you have the

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Speaker 2: access now to confiscate guns and you know exactly where

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Speaker 2: they are. So those are two things that really concern

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Speaker 2: me right now.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is when these red flag laws take

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Speaker 1: effect and they compensate your gun, you've got to wage

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Speaker 1: a long court battle just to prove that you're not

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Speaker 1: a threat to anybody, and so you're out of pocket

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Speaker 1: that money paying for a lawyer and going to court,

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Speaker 1: and then you still may not get your gun back.

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Speaker 2: And you want a little statistic on that, I think

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Speaker 2: it's about eighty five percent of the people who get

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Speaker 2: caught up in those red flag laws do not fight

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Speaker 2: it because they who don't have the time or the

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Speaker 2: money or the will.

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Speaker 4: It's a damn shame. All right, Dan Walls, thank you

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 1: Good Gunbadguy dot com still a good place to find you.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yep, gunback dot com.

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Speaker 4: All right, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Danny was Second Amendment hero on the Nightcap back in

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Speaker 1: just a moment. It's always nice to have this young

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Speaker 1: lady on. We only have really talked to her once before,

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Speaker 1: and then I really couldn't talk to her because it

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Speaker 1: was election day and she had absolutely lost her voice.

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Speaker 1: But she is in full throated glory now. Independent journalist

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Speaker 1: Karen Clifford. She covers a lot of things. She covers

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Speaker 1: the whole gamut, from politics to natural disasters and emergencies.

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Speaker 1: She herself lost so much in the Palisades Park fire

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Speaker 1: in California, so she knows of natural disasters and emergencies.

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Speaker 1: And she also was a big fan of SAT one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: dot com. But Karen is with us now to talk

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Speaker 1: about Informed News Network, which she founded this year. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's really laughable that a journalist has to

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Speaker 1: have found the Informed News Network because I see so

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Speaker 1: many so called journalists every day on TV and elsewhere

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Speaker 1: who simply don't act like they know anything. They're not

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Speaker 1: Krin Clifford. Welcome to the Nightcap.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 8: I am so grateful to be with you today. It

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Speaker 8: is basically snowing in Washington, DC. It's about thirty degrees

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Speaker 8: out and it is freezing at the White House yesterday.

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Speaker 8: My toes FROs, my fingers FROs. So I am so

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Speaker 8: excited to get the truths to the public because there

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Speaker 8: is so much uninformed news in the White House Press Corps,

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Speaker 8: in the Senate Press Corps, and now the Pentagon. The

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Speaker 8: Pentagon has created a whole new press corps which is

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Speaker 8: super exciting. Tons of my life friends who are real journalists,

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Speaker 8: like James O'Keefe and Laura Luma, and they have the

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Speaker 8: most amazing press corps now with cam Higbee and so

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Speaker 8: what the Pentagon is doing. I think is super critical

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Speaker 8: to happen for every agency in Washington, DC because there

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Speaker 8: is so much fake news. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 8: you and I were discussing the fout that the White

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Speaker 8: House now has a whole website on white House dot

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Speaker 8: com that exposes the fake news.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, it's about time.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned mister O'Keefe, it's nice to have Project

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Speaker 1: Veritas not have to go undercover. Now they can be

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Speaker 1: out in the open and actually give people the information

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Speaker 1: that most of us want. There was a new study

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Speaker 1: out that showed that a majority of young people and

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Speaker 1: not voters, but thirteen to eighteen year olds, don't trust

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Speaker 1: the news media. I mean a majority of kids just

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Speaker 1: think that it's all fake and biased. So even they

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Speaker 1: know what has been going on in our news media

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Speaker 1: in this country, cared.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And that's what I'm really concerned about because I'm

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Speaker 8: actually in the White House Press Corp. And yesterday I

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Speaker 8: actually was confronted by a couple of the fake news journalists.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say their names, but the bottom

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Speaker 8: line is, you know, one of them's with the independence

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Speaker 8: that the White House is exposing to be fake news,

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Speaker 8: and you know, they are saying crazy stuff, saying President

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Speaker 8: Trump is preasoners. They're saying things like, you know, Pete

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Speaker 8: Headsets doesn't have the right to bomb the drug boats.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's getting ridiculous at this point.

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Speaker 4: These are journalists saying this.

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Speaker 8: They're saying a lot of fake news, and the Trump

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Speaker 8: administration is actually beginning to expose them. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 8: I think that's good for all of us because everyone

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Speaker 8: who pays their cable bill and they paid for these

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Speaker 8: news agencies where they paid for these these news memberships. Okay, Politico,

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Speaker 8: one of my best friends is suing Politico for one

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Speaker 8: hundred and fifty million dollars because Politico wrote fake news

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Speaker 8: about him. Another one of my friends is having.

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Speaker 3: To sue President Trump. Had to sue.

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Speaker 8: President Trump, had to sue CBS, President Trump had to

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Speaker 8: sue YouTube. I mean, it's never ending with the fake news.

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Speaker 8: So where are these news narratives coming from. That's what

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Speaker 8: I'm concerned about. Potentially a lot of these news nerdalists

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Speaker 8: and a lot of these news narratives are people who

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Speaker 8: are real Democrats, people who are real Antifa type liberals,

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Speaker 8: and or being paid for their news narratives. But I'm

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Speaker 8: really worried that there's still is CIA mockingbird media because

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Speaker 8: this is what I'm worried about. I go to all

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Speaker 8: the press conferences, I'm in the White House pretty much

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Speaker 8: every day. There's fifty five seats. Who's actually in those

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Speaker 8: fifty five seats? New media like me, we have to

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Speaker 8: stand on the sides. So what I'm concerned about is

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Speaker 8: in those fifty five seats, I rarely see the same

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Speaker 8: people show up. That's what I'm worried about. So every

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Speaker 8: time there's a new person in one of these fifty

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Speaker 8: five seats, that means that there is someone creating their

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Speaker 8: news narrative and telling them what to say. Their questions

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Speaker 8: are too calculated. Oh so there is a very dangerous

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Speaker 8: component to the news and I do believe it. How

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Speaker 8: to do with the CIA mockingbird media that President Trump

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Speaker 8: hasn't been able to fire yet. The head of the

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Speaker 8: CIA requip we haven't fired these people yet, and I

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Speaker 8: don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's such an entrenched administrative state. I mean, people

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Speaker 1: talk about the deep state and the swamp carenn but

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Speaker 1: it is real. It has been around entrenched in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Unelected bureaucrats and people who want to wield

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Speaker 1: that power without any kind of accountability or responsibility to

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Speaker 1: the voter, which the Constitution doesn't call for a fourth

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Speaker 1: branch of government, but that's exactly what it is, and oftentimes, sadly,

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Speaker 1: it is more powerful than the judicial, the legislative, or

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Speaker 1: the executive branch. And it's been there entrenched for a

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Speaker 1: long long time. You can't root that out in a

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Speaker 1: few months time. But President Trump and the White House

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Speaker 1: have been absolutely efforting to do that.

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Speaker 4: I would, I will, that's what we're fighting.

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Speaker 8: And listen, they have found a way to fund themselves

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Speaker 8: with government grants. So the real news is that these

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Speaker 8: news agencies have found ways to cover themselves. Like NPR, PBS,

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Speaker 8: Political they get government grants. Politico is owned by a

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Speaker 8: very wealthy globalist in Germany. It's not America. First, it's

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Speaker 8: not American. They don't care about America. And so we

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Speaker 8: really need to weed this stuff out, like the Pentagon

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Speaker 8: has just done in their press corps.

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Speaker 1: Well, when the taxpayers of Minnesota give a bill million

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Speaker 1: dollars to a terrorist organization in Somalia, you know you

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Speaker 1: know that again, that's something that is just now being reported.

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Speaker 1: It's been going on de facto. For the entire seven

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Speaker 1: years of Tim waltz tenure as governor of Minnesota, there

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Speaker 1: have been twenty eight at least twenty eight large fraudulent

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Speaker 1: thefts of taxpayer money in the name of charity in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota since he's been governor.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if that man was Vice president.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to switch gears Corin and talk about as

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the uninformed news network and the people

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Speaker 1: who are just parroting narratives for globalist and Marxist means

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Speaker 1: in the White House, press corps and elsewhere. This Venezuela

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Speaker 1: drug boat hoax that is now going around and you

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Speaker 1: know something about this, are trying to pit the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of War Pete Hegseth against the commander in chief, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: You can talk to that for a few moments, if

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Speaker 1: you would please.

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Speaker 8: I'm very concerned about that, because that's what these news

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Speaker 8: media agencies that are fake news potential CIA deep state

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Speaker 8: potential agencies that are run and funded by foreign governments

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Speaker 8: that we don't even know where understand, like Politico. Basically,

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Speaker 8: what they're trying to do is pit President Trump against

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Speaker 8: his actual cabinet members. Right now, as you and I

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Speaker 8: are talking, President Trump is having a cabinet meeting. Because

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Speaker 8: this is what they're trying to do. They try to

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Speaker 8: get in between President Trump and as cabinet members. They

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Speaker 8: try to get in between President Trump and his core

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Speaker 8: base of America first patriots and make them fight with

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Speaker 8: each other. And you know, they're accusing President Trump of

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Speaker 8: who knows treason. I mean, this is ridiculous. President Trump

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Speaker 8: is totally within his legal authority to protect us in

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Speaker 8: the United States of America, and everything he's doing is

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Speaker 8: protecting us America first.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 8: So I'm very concerned about this, and I'm grateful that

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Speaker 8: you're letting me talk to you about this because this

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Speaker 8: is the most in banned and censor news and you know,

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Speaker 8: a lot of Americans just can't handle this, and so

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Speaker 8: they just watch the news. It's easy to get to,

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Speaker 8: but it's really time to pick and choose the news

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Speaker 8: that you watch, and it's getting few and far between.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you that the people that I trust

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Speaker 8: in the news are under twelve, potentially ten people and

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Speaker 8: it's not the people you would think. So it's and

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Speaker 8: it changes every month because people are just selling out

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Speaker 8: and I'm just very concerned. I'm worried that a lot

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Speaker 8: of the state news is funded by foreign interests, potentially

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Speaker 8: the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's no question that the CCP has a vested

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Speaker 1: interest in infiltrating and in indoctrinate not only the media

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Speaker 1: but the American public for their own personal gain and

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Speaker 1: their efforts that have gone on now for more than

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Speaker 1: one hundred years to be the dominant power on the

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Speaker 1: world stage. I wanted to talk to you too about

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Speaker 1: what happened sadly Thanksgiving with our National Guardsman Sarah who

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Speaker 1: was murdered and her other fellow National Guardsman from West

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Speaker 1: Virginia who has been clinging to life in the hospital,

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Speaker 1: and this Afghani who was let in by the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration in the wake of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and

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Speaker 1: the thousands of others who came with him, who the

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Speaker 1: CIA says, we're thoroughly vetted, and he had been well

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Speaker 1: known to the CIA and helped them for years in Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: so they felt like he was no threat to come

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Speaker 1: to America and have a life that maybe he was

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Speaker 1: promised by those CIA operatives and this guy, there's no

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Speaker 1: way that they could have vetted eighty six thousand people,

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Speaker 1: especially coming from Afghanistan. And that's why President Trump has

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Speaker 1: been so vigilant and vehement about stopping halting all immigration

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Speaker 1: from all of these countries where they don't love America,

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Speaker 1: they don't love American or Western values, and they you know,

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Speaker 1: the places where there's basically no government whatsoever to even

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Speaker 1: tell you who these people are.

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Speaker 8: Very concerning because I was there actually and I got

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Speaker 8: White House, and we didn't know what was going on.

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Speaker 8: And I was fully prepared because let me just tell

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Speaker 8: you something, I walk around with a bullet priest pack

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Speaker 8: and a satellite phone, and I walk around with my

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Speaker 8: important things like keys and critical credit cards, government IDs

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Speaker 8: in a Faraday bag.

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Speaker 6: And that's what's so.

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Speaker 8: Important, is that I want everyone to go to SAT

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Speaker 8: one two three right now, it's SAT one two three.

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Speaker 8: I want them to go there. And this makes the

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Speaker 8: best Christmas holiday gifts. And I think it's so important

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Speaker 8: to buy as much as you can afford to buy,

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Speaker 8: because everything I get from SAT one two three SAT

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Speaker 8: one two three dot com I use, and so I

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Speaker 8: actually felt safe in this situation I know that sounds crazy.

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Speaker 8: It was really traumatic and I was there and I

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Speaker 8: got caught up. They closed everything off, and first they

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Speaker 8: told me that the two National Guards people were from Alabama,

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Speaker 8: and they first they told me they were both dead.

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Speaker 8: So in the beginning I didn't have right information because

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Speaker 8: the police are known to give us fake information. And

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Speaker 8: then I couldn't stay there until Cashpetel started telling us

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Speaker 8: the real information. There was so much conflicting information, which

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Speaker 8: I think is really important people understand that. And so now,

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Speaker 8: of course you know the twenty year old National Guards women,

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Speaker 8: they're from West Virginia. She has passed. And the other gentlemen.

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Speaker 8: I don't even like to say his name, but pray

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Speaker 8: for him in spirit because he's fighting for his life.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he'll make it. Even if he does

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Speaker 8: make it, it's a tragedy. But thank you God that no

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Speaker 8: one else got sot in the soft fire, because since

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Speaker 8: I have been to the location and the Afghan national

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Speaker 8: was using some type of a handgun and there were

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Speaker 8: lots of bullets everywhere. It wasn't just one or two

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Speaker 8: or three.

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Speaker 4: Arm was shooting.

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Speaker 1: Karin, thank you so much for your time. Ours is

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Speaker 1: UPSat one two three dot com. Let's get that in

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Speaker 1: again for your safety in times of emergency or in

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Speaker 1: the times we live in. I appreciate it and keep

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Speaker 1: up the good work.

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Speaker 4: Karin. Thank you, so God.

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Speaker 8: Bless you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Petere Hedy December two, twenty twenty five. Joining us now

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Speaker 1: for this half hour is a guy that I've been

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Speaker 1: talking to for eons now it seems about the Internet

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Speaker 1: of things world in which we live, AI chat, GPT, hoaxes,

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Speaker 1: things to watch out for on your cell phone, and

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Speaker 1: anything else he can think of that has called from

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Speaker 1: today's tech headlines. And because of his warnings and admonitions

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Speaker 1: to me and to you through the years, I've fended

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Speaker 1: off another attack over the weekend. Dave Hatter from Interest

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Speaker 1: It is here also the mayor of fort Wright.

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Speaker 4: By the way, were you were you.

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Speaker 1: Manning the snowplows this morning? Dave and fort Wright?

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Speaker 6: Well and always Gary Jeff, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: And no, I was not managed to snow plows this morning.

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Speaker 6: We have a crack team and our three person public

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Speaker 6: works department and some other folks that come in to

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Speaker 6: get the job done.

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Speaker 1: When you say crack team, are you speaking to their

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Speaker 1: acumen or their addictions their acumen. Okay, okay, very very good.

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Speaker 1: So first and foremost, I wanted to tell you. I

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Speaker 1: think I did call you over the weekend telling you

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Speaker 1: how proud I was that I'd learned from all of

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Speaker 1: your tutelage about phone calls. I got a phone call

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Speaker 1: at nine o'clock on Friday night and i'm you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go to bed to get ready for

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning. And it's a US Bank, so they said.

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Speaker 1: And it was even the number that I use to

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Speaker 1: contact US Bank, the eight hundred number that came up

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Speaker 1: on my phone and said US Bank. So I answered it,

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Speaker 1: and the voice on the other end said, good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, it's even if you were on the

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Speaker 1: West coast, it's not afternoon anymore. Okay, who's this? Well

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Speaker 1: it's evening, thank you sir, Well, good evening. Then this

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Speaker 1: is US Bank fraud Security. Do you know someone named

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Speaker 1: Blah Blah blah in Florida? And did you issue a

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars payment to them through your account?

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Speaker 1: I said no, I don't know anybody in Florida not

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Speaker 1: with that name. And I didn't. That's not me Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: we just want to verify. We need the last four

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Speaker 1: digits of your social Security number just to verify. I said, no,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting the last four digits of my social

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Speaker 1: Security number or any other information for me. By that

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Speaker 1: way over the phone, I did the right thing.

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Speaker 3: Right, Dave, you did?

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Speaker 6: You did, Cary, Jeff, And you know, I've had a

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Speaker 6: similar type of scenario. I want to come back to yours.

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Speaker 6: But like in my case, my wife and I are

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Speaker 6: sitting on the couch. She gets a phone call from

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Speaker 6: purportedly from USAA, that's who we bank with. There's some

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Speaker 6: kind of fraud on your account, blah blah, blah blah.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, okay, this is some kind of scam.

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Speaker 3: Hang up.

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Speaker 6: And you know, then we went and logged into our account,

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Speaker 6: checked to make sure everything was okay, went ahead and

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Speaker 6: changed our paths where it just to be safe. But

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Speaker 6: one of the reasons why this thing is prevalent, right is,

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Speaker 6: first off, it's really easy to spoof a phone number.

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Speaker 6: It takes almost zero technical skill to send a text

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Speaker 6: or make a phone call and make the number that

872
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 6: appears on the recipient's phone any number I want it

873
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 6: to be. You know, the phone system is old. It's

874
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 6: been around for over one hundred years. When it was designed,

875
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 6: it was not designed to stop this sort of spoofing, right,

876
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 6: so it's trivially easy for bad guys to make a

877
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: call appear from any number. So you know, my typical

878
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 6: advice is never answer the phone from a number you

879
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 6: don't recognize if it's important to leave a message. But understand,

880
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 6: even if you recognize the number, like in your case,

881
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 6: it does not mean it's legit, and people really really

882
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 6: need to take that the heart first off. So you know,

883
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 6: if you see a number come across and it looks

884
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 6: like a familiar number, year you trust it and you

885
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 6: answer the phone, which you know in that case, I

886
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 6: could understand why you would. Then you have got to

887
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 6: be immediately incredibly skeptical understand that in many cases, So

888
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 6: is it random chance that you just happened to get

889
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: a call from your bank quote unquote? Maybe you know

890
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 6: in some cases these sorts of phishing attacks. Now, in

891
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 6: text messages it's called smishing, and in voice calls it's

892
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 6: called fishing, but it's all basically the same idea. I'm

893
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 6: just going to blast stuff out there, right, Some of

894
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 6: these phishing attacks are just random. They're just blasting stuff

895
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 6: out and you know, hoping that you won't question that

896
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: that's I don't use this bank. Right, but thanks to

897
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 6: all of the giant data leaks and data breaches we've

898
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 6: had over the years, national public data, for example, billions

899
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 6: of records lost. It's a background check company. Think about

900
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 6: the sense of information you put out there in a

901
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 6: background check. Places you've worked, places you've lived, places you've banked,

902
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 6: all kinds of sensitive stuff. Right, So when the hackers

903
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 6: have access to that information, they can know, hey, when

904
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 6: we send this text or when we make this call

905
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 6: to this Gary Jeff Walker guy, he uses this bank.

906
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 6: This bank's phone number is X. So it is entirely

907
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 6: within the realm of possibility that it's not just random

908
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 6: chance they hit your bank. They're using information that they

909
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 6: have bought, stolen, etc. From all these leaks to target you.

910
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 6: They know you use a certain bank, they know you

911
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 6: use Amazon or whatever. The scam is. Right, So if

912
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 6: you know that the phone number is easily spoofed, just

913
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 6: like an email address is easily spoofed, and and you

914
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 6: know they have all this sensitive information so they can

915
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 6: claim to be from bank x oh, and yeah, they

916
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 6: might even know like, well, you bank a branch such

917
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 6: and such. Just because you're talking to someone that seems

918
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 6: to have information that only that legitimate entity has does

919
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 6: not mean they're legit. And as the FBI says, I'm

920
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 6: reading directly from their know that legitimate companies will never

921
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 6: call you.

922
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: And offer tex support out of the blue. If you

923
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: get a call like this, hang up right. Never let

924
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: someone have remote access to your computer. Never get out

925
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: your credentials, especially if it's financially rate. If you're using

926
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: name of password, it's financially related, because they're going to

927
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: get into your account and lock you out and steal

928
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: your money. And getting back now to this Apple angle,

929
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: So Forbes recently reported on this now and this is

930
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: not an Apple specific problem, but there are sophisticated attacks.

931
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: They've been done to Google users. They're now targeting Apple users.

932
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: Where you get a phone call, or you might get

933
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: a text message with like an MFA code, and then

934
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: Apple is suddenly calling you on the phone.

935
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 6: Right, it'll probably show up with a number that looks

936
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 6: like it's from Apple. This is the tax support scam idea.

937
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 6: You know, once they get into your Apple account, Could

938
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 6: they get into your bank account?

939
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: Could they do?

940
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 6: Who knows what? Hard to say. A lot of people

941
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 6: have the same bad shared passwords. Don't have the MFA

942
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 6: turned on. If you get a call, Apple has very

943
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 6: clearly said they will not call you like this, right.

944
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 6: Google has said will not call you like this. Microsoft

945
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 6: has said they will not call you like this. If

946
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 6: you get a call like this, chance it's a scam,

947
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 6: it's probably enough, yes, and then you go. If you're

948
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 6: worried about it, you go, log into your Apple account,

949
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 6: log into your Google account, log into your Microsoft account,

950
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 6: log into your bank account. Do not click the links,

951
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 6: do not call the numbers, do not take the bait.

952
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: Now, it's it's just as simple as that.

953
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: It's bogus because they've already told you they're not going

954
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: to call you regardless.

955
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: So I mean, you just you're right.

956
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: You just got to be vigilant and be aware that

957
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: this stuff is going on, and that's why we're here

958
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: talking about it. Child safety advocates warned parents to avoid

959
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: avoid AI toys this Christmas. We kind of talked about

960
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: the Teddy Bear describing sexual fetishes and the like.

961
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: This is an extension of that, is it not.

962
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 6: It is Gary, Jeff. I mean it's the idea that

963
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: I mean. First off, as we've discussed before, Internet are

964
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 6: things devices aka smart devices, which includes toys children's toys,

965
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 6: have been a concern for some time. I mean the

966
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 6: literality is probably going back more than ten years that

967
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 6: you don't have to look too hard to find all

968
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 6: kinds of privacy and security flaws in these children's toys

969
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 6: that connect to the Internet, whether it's you know, known vulnerabilities,

970
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: whether it's recording that you don't understand. Because keep in mind,

971
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 6: many of these toys have cameras and microphones in them,

972
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 6: because that's how you interact with them, right. You know,

973
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 6: we've seen stories over the years of web cameras getting

974
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 6: packed and weird people talking to people's kids for these things.

975
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 6: If you have a toy that can connect to the internet,

976
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 6: you know, ask yourself, did the toy manufacturer focus on

977
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: the privacy and security of this device and of my

978
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 6: children playing with it? Or do they focus on things

979
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 6: like market share, speed to market, and ease of use?

980
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 6: And you know, that's that's my issue with the so

981
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 6: called smart devices across the board is as a consumer,

982
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 6: they are not focused on their privacy and security. They

983
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 6: are not focused on protecting you. They're focused on selling

984
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 6: as much of these things, many of these as they can,

985
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 6: to as many people as possible, making it as easy

986
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 6: to use as possible so people will use them, and

987
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 6: then collecting as much data as possible to you know,

988
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 6: further monetize your data. So when you give your kid

989
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 6: a toy like this, again, forget the AI piece for

990
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 6: a minute, just right off the bat, you know, do

991
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 6: you did you change the default password? Do you know

992
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 6: how to set it up for software updates so that

993
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 6: eventually there's not a vulnerability in the kid's toy that

994
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 6: allows hackers to get into your home or office network

995
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 6: and do much more nefarious things. Then you throw in

996
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 6: the AI angle. I mean, you and I have talked

997
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 6: about this before. It's well documented if you go look,

998
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 6: you know, there's all kinds of issues with AI making

999
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 6: people lose their minds, AI telling people to do crazy things.

1000
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 6: In this specific Teddy Bear story where a researcher was

1001
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 6: purposely trying to see what it would do, and you know,

1002
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 6: was asking questions about like hey, where can I get NDS?

1003
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 6: And the AI in this thing told the kids like, oh,

1004
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 6: they're usually in the kitchen and such so as a

1005
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 6: cautionary tale. Now, you know, my kids are not of

1006
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 6: an age where this would matter anymore, and I don't

1007
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 6: have any grandkids yet. But I'm sure you know what

1008
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 6: I'm going to say next, which is, there's absolutely no chance,

1009
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 6: no chance I would give my young children or my

1010
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 6: grandchildren any kind of AI internet connected toy. Do you

1011
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 6: understand what it's recording when it's recording? Do you want

1012
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 6: your kids' conversations to be sucked up, analyzed, sold to

1013
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 6: someone else, or conversations you might be heaving with your

1014
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 6: kids that you don't understand are being recorded. Do you

1015
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 6: really want your kid exposed to some AI bot that's

1016
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 6: telling them who knows what without any real oversight over it?

1017
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 6: Like you could at least have on a computer or

1018
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 6: a tamphlet or something. In my mind, and there is

1019
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 6: just no way you could justify getting a young child some.

1020
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: Sort of toile like this, no doubt.

1021
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 6: Stay away from these things, or at least at least

1022
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 6: do your research and vet them.

1023
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: Carefully, care more more carefully than probably some of the

1024
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: Afghanis were vetted when they came into the country. Dave

1025
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: Hatter is with us for another quick segment. We'll come

1026
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: back and talk about SMB's what they are and how

1027
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: they can protect you this holiday shopping season.

1028
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: And we just had cyber Monday yesterday.

1029
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter on the Nightcap back in just a moment

1030
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: our it Guy Tech Talk Doomsday. Dave with the aluminum

1031
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: foil hat securely placed on his head so the aliens

1032
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: cannot read his thoughts. Dave, what are SMBs and this

1033
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: is some kind of layered security, but I don't know

1034
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: much about it. And how can SMBs so called protect

1035
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: you this holidays season from cyber threats?

1036
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they're what they're talking about here. This is

1037
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 6: an article from a chief security officer online, and they're

1038
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 6: they're warning small businesses, small medium businesses, that's what they

1039
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 6: mean by S and D in this case, are always

1040
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 6: under attack because they typically don't have the deep pockets,

1041
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 6: they don't have the resources, they don't have the experienced

1042
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 6: team that larger companies have to depend against this and

1043
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 6: also normally during any kind of holiday extended off time,

1044
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 6: you're going to see increased attacks on businesses. You know,

1045
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 6: what bad guys like to do is assuming they can

1046
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: get a foothold in your environment, whether that's somehow they

1047
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 6: find a vulnerability in your firewall or some smart IoT

1048
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 6: device that's not set upright, or they just are able

1049
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 6: to compromise someone's identity right, they're able to guess the

1050
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 6: username and password or get a user name of password

1051
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 6: up the dark web, they get in and in many cases,

1052
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 6: if they're going to drop ransomware, which is you knowftware

1053
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 6: that encrypts your data to shuts your systems down and

1054
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 6: then you have to pay to unlock it, and they

1055
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 6: usually steal the data too. So when you say, oh, hey,

1056
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 6: I listened to Old Dean's Day Dave Hatter, I got

1057
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 6: a good backup. I don't need to pay your ransom

1058
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 6: because I can just wipe my systems in the store

1059
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 6: and go on about my business. Then they'll threaten to

1060
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 6: release your data online unless.

1061
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: You pay right.

1062
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 6: It gives them extra leverage to extort you even if

1063
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 6: you're not down because of the ransomware. So what they

1064
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 6: like to do is wait till a holiday weekend.

1065
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: You know, if you.

1066
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 6: Have a three day weekend coming up, if they can

1067
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 6: launch their attack let's say on a Friday night, knowing

1068
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 6: no one's going to be back in the office until Monday.

1069
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 6: They can inflict maximum damage. Right there's no one paying attention.

1070
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 6: They can hit the maximum amount of systems. They can

1071
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 6: inflict maximum damage, thus increasing the likelihood you're going to pay.

1072
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 6: So this article is basically saying, hey, it's a small business,

1073
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 6: you need to understand these things. They got an interesting

1074
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 6: static here small and medium sized businesses. Twenty nine percent

1075
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 6: of businesses with fewer than twenty five employees and nearly

1076
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 6: one in five mid size businesses have or have experienced

1077
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 6: a ransomware attack in twenty five nineteen percent of them. Sorry,

1078
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 6: that didn't come out very clear, And again, ransomware can

1079
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 6: be an existential threat. If you don't have good backups

1080
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 6: and you don't pay the ransom where they decide not

1081
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 6: to give you the decryption key, well, your systems are

1082
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 6: just wrecked. And you know, can you survive that hard

1083
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 6: to say. But the point they're going to make also

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Speaker 6: is Windows ten with end of life, which means no

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Speaker 6: more security updates for Microsoft, and they're saying you need

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 6: to take a multi tiered approach. You want technological tools

1087
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 6: in place, things like anti virus, email spam filtering, DNS filtering,

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01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 6: to try to block the bad guys. You want training

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Speaker 6: in place so that your team is aware of the

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Speaker 6: kind of threats they're going to face, like phishing and

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Speaker 6: social engineering and sense worth. And then you need systems

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Speaker 6: in place so that if and when an event does

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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 6: occur you do have a successful cyber attack, you can

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Speaker 6: contain it and re cover quickly from it. Where the

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 6: minimum downtime the minimum costs to you. I mean, this

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Speaker 6: is the stuff we're to preach in every day as

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Speaker 6: a business Cary Jess. You know, there's nothing you can

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Speaker 6: do to make yourself your business completely impervious to this stuff,

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01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 6: but there are things you can do focused on risk

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Speaker 6: to make your business a much and frankly yourself a

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Speaker 6: much more difficult target. You know, as.

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Speaker 1: Especially with a small business. H It's it's hard to

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: The reason you have these systems in the first place,

1104
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: is it it makes it easier for you to run

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01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: with the skeleton crew of people, a small amount of people.

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01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: But if it would be practical and you can fairly

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: easily do it, isn't it good to have a hard

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Speaker 1: copy backup of all the important stuff that you've got.

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Speaker 6: Uh, certainly, you know one of the things that's interesting.

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Speaker 6: You know, I recommend every business have an incident response plan,

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 6: an ideally cybersecurity insurance. Ay, just going through the insurance

1112
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 6: process will help you understand what insurance companies see his

1113
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 6: threats and things you need to depend against, and then

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01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 6: an incident response planned. Okay, if and when I have

1115
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 6: an incident, it doesn't have to be a cyber attack.

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: It could be my server crashed, we had a tornado. Whatever,

1117
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 6: my systems are down right, what do I need to

1118
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 6: do to recover? Who do I need to call so

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 6: that when that crisis hits you're not scrambled around? And

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Speaker 6: the reason I bring that up is because people will

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01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 6: often create these things, keep them in a digital format only,

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01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 6: and then they lose it when the system crashes. So yes,

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Speaker 6: having a hard copy, a secure hard copy in a

1124
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 6: safe or something of critical data is always a good

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 6: backup approach to make sure that if and when your

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 6: systems crash, you know you're good to go. Now. I

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 6: will also throw out one key idea and the world

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Speaker 6: of backups, you'll hear about the backup rule of three

1129
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 6: to two one. This works well for individuals too. But

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Speaker 6: the idea of the backup rule of three two. One

1131
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 6: is you have for any critical data, anything you can't

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 6: afford to lose, you have three copies of it. The

1133
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 6: production copy you're working off of, the other copy stored

1134
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 6: on a different medium could be an external disc, could

1135
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 6: be a network attached storage or whatever. And then a

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01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 6: third copy that's off site, ideally in some sort of

1137
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 6: cloud based backup that's happening automatically, so that even if

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Speaker 6: the two copies on site are destroyed somehow, you can

1139
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 6: still fall back to a third copy that it's safe

1140
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Speaker 6: somewhere else. Yeah, you know these are all and that

1141
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 6: speaks to the resiliency idea that, Okay, when an event occurs,

1142
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 6: doesn't have to be a cyber attack again, could be

1143
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 6: a natural disaster. You've got something you can fall back on,

1144
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 6: an ideal. You're testing it to make sure that it's

1145
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Speaker 6: available and workable when you need it.

1146
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: Great information. Dave Hatter as always my friend. Thank you

1147
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: again and sleep tight. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 6: Always my pleasure.

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01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 2: Thanks Gary, Jeff, you got it.

1150
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Speaker 4: Dave Hatter with us on the nightcap.

1151
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: We'll be back to wrap up with the fur ball

1152
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: in minutes afternoons. Ah do I long for these conversations.

1153
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm like a junkie. I'm like scratching it in my arms,

1154
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: and I'm freezing cold all a sudden and then sweating

1155
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: the next because I got to get my fix of

1156
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: the fur ball. I'm like a junkie on the streets.

1157
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: It's and and now I get my dose. I get

1158
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: to to as the as the junkies say, I get

1159
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: to get well for a few minutes. So here is

1160
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: my fix of Furman on a nightcap on seven hundred

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: w L W Oh did you bring this stuff?

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01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: Andy?

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01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: The stuff? Yeah? I always bring this stuff. You know

1164
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 3: that I'm ready for you.

1165
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: Okay, good boy boy, I'll tell you what. The DT's

1166
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: are terrible when I when I don't get enough Andy Furman.

1167
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 4: And now I know.

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: There's something wrong with you. I guess you can think

1169
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: get a life, But you know, there's there's so much

1170
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 3: out there, and really and truly, I think we've got

1171
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: to lead off for college football because that's the story

1172
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: of the day right now. And one of the stories

1173
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: obviously was Lank kissing. And it's really a funny story

1174
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm on the weekend. I'm on Sunday

1175
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: morning on Fox Sports Radio, and I saw the show up,

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01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: say hey, Lane, where you're going because you said Saturday

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: you're going to make a decision be at Florida or LSU,

1178
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: and ended up going to LSU. And you know, after

1179
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,959
Speaker 3: a while that kind of got old.

1180
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: And here's the deal.

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01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 3: I mean, the grain standing was disgusting. I really believe

1182
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: that you're hurting the school. You're you're hurting the kids

1183
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: that you recruited for that school. And I'm so happy

1184
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: they a thought the arrector and to a president that

1185
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: started to put the lock and bolt on his office

1186
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 3: door and say, you know what, you want to go

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Speaker 3: to LSU. God bless you get the hell out. Here's

1188
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 3: a guy who has always been one step out the

1189
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Speaker 3: door wherever he's been. He was fired on the carmack

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Speaker 3: at the tarmac, I mean on the at the airport

1191
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Speaker 3: when he was coaching USC. He coaches a Tennessee for

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Speaker 3: what they were seven and six.

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Speaker 4: He got fired there.

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Speaker 1: They threw him out of Knoxville, that's for sure, real quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so the guy's been all over I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's like a like a fifty nine and eleven record

1197
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: at open as he's done, Well, why not stay there,

1198
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: you know, build a legacy over there. I get it

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Speaker 3: for his contrast to be close, like seventy five seventy

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01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: eight million dollars in LSU, A lot of pressure on

1201
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: him over there. But you know, here's the thing. There's

1202
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Speaker 3: something wrong with this system. When a coach who takes

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Speaker 3: the team to the college playoffs, the SEC you know,

1204
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: playoffs whatever it may be. Yeah, and then all of

1205
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: a sudden he's going to both and leave. And you know,

1206
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Speaker 3: at least he talked about it. I mean, Brian Kelly

1207
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 3: was worse. He just left. He didn't say a word.

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Speaker 3: He just didn't show up at the banquet for the

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Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati. So they got to do something right

1210
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 3: now with this. And you know, I applaud Old miss

1211
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: for not letting them coach in the playoff game, silly

1212
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: because his coaching would just more or less talk to

1213
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Speaker 3: these kids to tell him to go with it. Tell us,

1214
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: you well, recruiting them while he's coaching them.

1215
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Speaker 4: Andy, You're not the first person.

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01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: In fact, almost everyone including the people inside the bubble

1217
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: of the coaches and administrators, are saying that college football

1218
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Speaker 1: is broken.

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Speaker 4: Now, how would you fix it?

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Speaker 3: Well? Number one, you know the portal for the college

1221
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 3: kid for transferring and college football is going to be

1222
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Speaker 3: open during the college football playoffs, which is so ridiculous

1223
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: because here's the deal. If I'm a kid at school X,

1224
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: and I get a great offer monetarily to go to

1225
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Speaker 3: a college, and say, wait a second, you know, why

1226
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 3: would I go to a playoff game and endanger my

1227
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Speaker 3: monetary economics for an injury? Last factor, I'm not going

1228
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 3: to play. I'm going to both. I'm going to go

1229
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 3: into the portal, I'm gonna go to the school. So

1230
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: there's something wrong, I mean, and I don't understand how

1231
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: these guys could get in a room and discuss this

1232
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 3: and not look at the downside of what they're doing.

1233
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Speaker 3: The portal should be done after the entire football season,

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: playoffs at all are finished. During the playoffs, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: make any sense.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct on that. I don't think that you

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Speaker 1: should have this revolving door while a national championship is

1238
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: at stake.

1239
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Speaker 3: And you know, honestly, as far as exposures concern the publicity,

1240
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 3: I think the top players who in fact would put

1241
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Speaker 3: their names in the portal, they'll get more play, more

1242
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 3: publicity than maybe the games themselves.

1243
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Speaker 2: You don't want to do that.

1244
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Speaker 3: I mean, like omentually Baseball, they're small enough to say, hey,

1245
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: look we're looking at the hold all trades of big

1246
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: announcements during the World Series. I get it. The World

1247
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: Series is the showcase. They're in the center stage and

1248
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 3: everything else is an ancillary. Let that go roll up

1249
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: to someplace else. A lot of people it takes sense,

1250
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Speaker 3: it really doesn't.

1251
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Speaker 1: A lot of people said about the old system we got.

1252
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: There's twelve team playoff. They just announced the teams earlier tonight.

1253
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: They said that, you know, it's better for the teams

1254
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Speaker 1: to on the field decide the national championship. And I

1255
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: can't disagree with that instead of a computer placing four

1256
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: teams in there and having a couple of Bowl games

1257
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: to determine it. But it's twelve teams too many, Andy,

1258
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 1: you think.

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Speaker 3: You think it is, But it's not too many for

1260
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: the pocketbooks. That's the thing. Well, you know when they

1261
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: have a question that Chris collins Worth the Wayswoman is

1262
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: if you have a question, you know the answer is

1263
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,839
Speaker 3: follow the dots. Is always about the guelt, the green cabbage,

1264
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: and that's what it is. It's all about the money.

1265
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: And that's what this is. And I remember way back

1266
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: when when they never even had a championship game played

1267
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: for college football. It was the Associated Press and the

1268
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 3: United President the Nationals. They chose the college champion, AP champion,

1269
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,839
Speaker 3: and the UPI champion. So at least they're playing, okay.

1270
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Speaker 3: And I remember your last year and the year prior

1271
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 3: to that, they had four teams, and it was so

1272
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: excited because look, the team had to get one loss

1273
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 3: and basically you're on the hook. One loss, you may

1274
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 3: not get in. And that team that was fifth, pressing

1275
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 3: its nose against the glass. There was always a great story,

1276
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 3: a controversial story. Should they have gotten it? Should they

1277
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 3: have made it? Now with twelve, you're gonna get teams

1278
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: with two losses for sure, and maybe several with three.

1279
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: You know, and again, you know, what's the point in

1280
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: playing throughout the entire season is you're going to play

1281
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 3: again and meet the same teams again.

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Speaker 1: I just but this also allows even with twelve teams, Andy,

1283
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: it also allows for teams to be pressing their against

1284
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: the glass. Now with only two losses. My Vanderbilt Commodores,

1285
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: darn Well should have be considered for and I'm sure

1286
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: they were at a certain point. But you know teams

1287
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: like that who had incredible seasons. You know, Vandy has

1288
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: never won ten games in any college football season ever

1289
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Speaker 1: in their entire school history.

1290
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Speaker 4: They won nine. The last time they won.

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Speaker 1: Nine games was nineteen fifteen, and they had this remarkable

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: ten and two season. They their last game they beat

1293
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: their rival ut on Tennessee's field. Tennessee was ranked nineteenth,

1294
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt fourteenth. But even at ten and two in the SEC,

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Speaker 1: they you know, are on the outside looking in more

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Speaker 1: than likely, and and everybody else, like you said, you

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Speaker 1: got you got two loss teams. Notre Dame gets the

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Speaker 1: benefit of being Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: That's the key, you know. You know what. Obviously Myami

1300
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: of Florida beat not to Dam early on, and they've

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 3: been ranked a head of notes. There's been rent a

1302
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 3: head of them all season long. I mean, you know,

1303
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 3: there's always going to be an argument right there. And

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 3: I think this Miami team is one of those teams

1305
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: you don't know what you're going to get on any

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 3: given Saturday. There they're one heck of a team and

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01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: an explosive team, but maybe the competition they played against,

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 3: they only played as good as a competition in their conference,

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: which was not that great of a conference. And the

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 3: downside of Vanderbilt is the conference they playing. It's so strong,

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 3: the Big Ten obviously, and the SEC one two or

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 3: two one, if you will, as far as college football

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Speaker 3: powers are concerned. That's just the way it is.

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty and maybe there's.

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 3: Too many teams in the conferences. It's pretty.

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty telling that the Big Ten championship coming up

1317
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: this weekend is one versus two in the nation, Ohio

1318
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: State versus Indiana. That could that has the potential, that

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: is all the earmarks of being a national championship game

1320
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: right there, without the playoffs exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: And that's a shame, isn't it. It really is, because

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 3: that game maybe better than the national championship game. Seriously, well,

1323
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 3: I may have more interest.

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Speaker 4: It's not a shame for Hoosier fans. I'll tell you

1325
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 4: that right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're right about that. I mean, and again,

1327
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 3: I mean the bottom line is this. If it's about

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01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: the money, let's go one step further. I mean you

1329
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 3: could turn on any talk radio show in the country,

1330
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 3: sports talk, national locos may be I promise you I

1331
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: promise you they cannot get away without talking about gambling,

1332
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: and get I get the reason why. It's it's part

1333
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: of the game. To me, it's killing the game. And

1334
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: as long as they're sponsoring these shows, they're going to

1335
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 3: talk about them. I hear it all the time. I

1336
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: hear it all you. Look, I'm very fortunate because I

1337
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: work at Fox Sports Radio, and yeah, they do talk

1338
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 3: gambling on the shows, and they have the shows on Sunday.

1339
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 3: You know whose favorite? How many points? Because I work

1340
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: with a guy by the name of Bucky Brooks who

1341
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: played in the NFL and he works for the Jackson Jaguars.

1342
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 3: He's not permitted to talk about gambling because he works

1343
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: for the NFL, which I love because I don't want

1344
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: to talk about gambling. There are too many great stories

1345
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: out there. You want to talk about gamb Look, I'm

1346
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: not opposed to it. I worked at racetracks most of

1347
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 3: my life, But go ahead and gamble. I don't think

1348
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: people want to tune on a radio show to hear

1349
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: odds and lines about games about hosts that have no

1350
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 3: idea how they could predict the game. Because look what's

1351
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: happening in the NFL this year. You can't even predict

1352
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 3: the game the other day that Carolina was going to

1353
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 3: beat the Rams. Are you kidding? You just can't predict it.

1354
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: So I talk about it. You know, there are better

1355
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: stories out there and game stories rather than just talk

1356
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 3: about points and gambling. And I won't do it, and

1357
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't do it.

1358
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: You could have predicted that the Giants were going to

1359
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: get crushed last night by New England. Well that was

1360
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: a runaway train from the start of the game.

1361
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: And well what about the Giants kicker? Oh the end

1362
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 3: of the game? Oh did you see that?

1363
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 4: No, I didn't see the end of it because I

1364
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 4: turned it off already. It was over. It was thirty

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01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 4: to fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I saw it on social media, and look, I didn't

1367
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: watch the end of the game because it was kind

1368
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 3: of gone. Really, but you know, really and truly he

1369
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: missed it. Looked like he just stopped before he was

1370
01:14:59,200 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: going to kick the foot.

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was early. That was earlier in the game.

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01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: That wasn't at the end of the game.

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 3: On social media after the game. But yeah, and the question,

1374
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: the question arises has to arise, like was he doing

1375
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 3: that because of the odds on the game? I mean,

1376
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: with the points. There's a cloud over every game right now,

1377
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 3: especially basketball. Would happen in the NBA and now maybe

1378
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: even football. If the guy drops the pass in the

1379
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: end zone and the game is not covered by the

1380
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: x amount of points, the question is going to be risen.

1381
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 3: I mean, did he do it on purpose? Off?

1382
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 1: And And it's all because of the prop bet angle.

1383
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: And when you can bet on an individual player, maybe

1384
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: not even a maybe not even a starter, who is

1385
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: going to do something or do this or do that

1386
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: during the game instead of just what what's the outcome

1387
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: of the game, what's the point spread?

1388
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 4: When they get down.

1389
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Speaker 1: To the the micro cosm of a game and they

1390
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: get to individual players and you know, field goal attempts

1391
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 1: and people are betting on that, that is what opens

1392
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: the door for all kinds of fraud and the lack

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: of integrity because of gambling.

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 4: That's it right there.

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01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 3: I'll go on stuff further. You say it opens the door,

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. The door's open. The door

1397
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: is oh right, I mean the door. I mean what's

1398
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 3: happened in the NBA would happened in Major League Baseball.

1399
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: I just I think there's a cloud over professional sports.

1400
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 4: Right now.

1401
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 3: And I think that anytime something like that happens, a mispitch,

1402
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: a drop ball, whatever it may be, the question is

1403
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: going to be risen like, oh, did he do it

1404
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 3: on perfect? Was he brought up? Or gamble is involved?

1405
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 3: Was Vegas involved?

1406
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 4: Guys?

1407
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 3: It's terrible, it really is.

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: You got to get rid of the prop bets. That's

1409
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: the only way to because you're never going to betting.

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: Governor the one in Ohio has done that, yeah, which

1411
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: is great, but you know one state. You know what

1412
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 3: is that going to do? You bet in Vegas? That's

1413
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,440
Speaker 3: not gonna not gonna change things. The pro bit Vegas.

1414
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 4: People people are you to doing prop bets now?

1415
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: So even if you made them technically illegal, there's still

1416
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: going to be illegal betting going on on prop bet

1417
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: prop bets and players. I mean, because you, like you said,

1418
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 1: the door is open, Pandora's box has had the lid

1419
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: lifted off, and this is what we've got.

1420
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: But okay, here's my question to you. I'm really I'm

1421
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 3: so out of it with betting. I have no idea.

1422
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: Now I know what a prop bet is. But some

1423
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 3: of the wines says he wants to eliminate prop bets

1424
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 3: in Ohio. I have a phone, and I want to

1425
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: go to one of these betting sites. I guess I

1426
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 3: could still better prop bet correct. Sure you sure you could?

1427
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 3: Around you know, he's eliminating prop bets and casinos. I

1428
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 3: would think that's where they're eliminated.

1429
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 4: At the sports books.

1430
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 3: But in other words, I have a phone, and if

1431
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 3: I want to go to bet USA or at MGM,

1432
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: whatever it may be, on my phone, I could make

1433
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: a prop bet correct.

1434
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: You certainly could. All right, I'm sure I'm sure that

1435
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: the prop bet police aren't banging down your door five

1436
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: minutes after you get off the phone.

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01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: Handy, right there you go. It's just, you know, and

1438
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 3: I do. I say this not because I'm opposed to gambling.

1439
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 3: I love the purity of sport and it's really been

1440
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: taken away right now. It really has been. It has.

1441
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 3: I mean, it's bad.

1442
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 4: I just all do.

1443
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: All of our innocence has been lost, Andy, all of

1444
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: our innocence. There's no more innocence.

1445
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: In other words, if someone went to bet that Joe

1446
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 3: Burrow is going to pass to three hundred yards this

1447
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 3: week in their football game against Buffalo, and he's got

1448
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 3: to eighty to eighty going to the fourth quarter and

1449
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 3: the Bengals hand the ball off the entire fourth quarter

1450
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: to run out the clock. Don't you think someone's going

1451
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: to say, wait a minute, someone had to bet that

1452
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 3: throw the three hundred yards. He didn't do it, because

1453
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 3: that's why they handed the ball off and ran the

1454
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 3: football and didn't pass. Those are the things that are

1455
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 3: gonna happen stuff like that.

1456
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: One thing, one thing hasn't changed, Andy, was that the

1457
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: house always wins and and the bookies always know what's

1458
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: going to happen pretty much, And the only time they

1459
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: question the legitimacy of betting is when they don't win.

1460
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: As long as as long as the bookies are always

1461
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: on point with their point spreads and all their other

1462
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: bets is long. It's when there are anomalies and the

1463
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,440
Speaker 1: house loses, that's when they look into it.

1464
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 4: Otherwise.

1465
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: But here's my question. Everything for years betty was legal

1466
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: in England, and I have all the soccer leagues over there.

1467
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 3: I haven't really read or heard about so much controversy

1468
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: there as we have here. I do I do understand

1469
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: why why is that?

1470
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: Well, the paraphrase Sam wis, you don't live in England

1471
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: you live in Cincinnati. Andy, Listen, I gotta go. Thank

1472
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: you so much for your time tonight. As always, I

1473
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: got my fix while I'm going home in a few minutes.

1474
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: It's late.

1475
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 3: Enjoy drive carefully. Thank you all right, my friend. I'll

1476
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 3: see you soon.

1477
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 4: Bye.

1478
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: The fur Ball on a Tuesday night. Back to wrap

1479
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Speaker 1: up next