1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby's thirty eights. Born on eight seven eighty seven, 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: He's thirty eight, and he's the NHL leader in goals, 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: just two points behind in points. He's captaining a kind 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: of bummy roster to the best record in the league 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: so far, and he's thirty eight. 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Thirty eights. 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Forget about the stats, forget about the record. Watch Sidney 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Crosby play. At thirty eight. He's everywhere two hundred feet. 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Don Lowe in traffic back checks the slot. 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: At thirty eights. 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: He's still got that acceleration through the neutral zone. He 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: makes the other team back up, he makes the fans 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: stand up, and he's thirty eight. Nobody in hockey, and 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: I can't think of well, I mean Brady, but that's different. 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Nobody in hockey, for sure, has ever played like this 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: at thirties. 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: And by that I. 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: Mean nobody, nobody at thirty eights. I never thought I'd 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: think that Sidney Crosby might be might wind up being 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: thought of as the best hockey player ever. 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: And that's still Mario. 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: But Crosby is making an argument because he's played just 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: about the same way at the same level for twenty 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: one years and still is at thirty eight's. Don't take 25 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: this for granted. Acknowledge him. Sidney Crosby is a whirlwind 26 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: with graying hair that he should absolutely die and absolutely 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: will nots. 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: This is the Mark Madden Show. Don't forget. 29 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: You can watch the Stealer game with me at Sidelines 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Beer House in Siwickly on Sunday kickoff at eight twenty. 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Got a lot of stuff to give away, a lot 32 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: of wings to eat, a lot of beer to drink. 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: That's doublem with the Steeler watch party Sunday night at 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Sidelines Beer House in Siwickly. The Penguins are by far 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: the most interesting sports story in Pittsburgh right now. 36 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: I mean Steelers. 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna wind up same old, same old with the 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: Penguins that might yet too, having missed the playoffs the 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: last three years, but look at it right now, look. 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: At the standings right now. 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: And last night they dodged a major bullet because that 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: game had the stench of death for a second after 43 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: blowing a three goal lead again second time in four 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: games in four days, two games four days, but special 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: teams building up two great pks in the third and 46 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: then Rusty scored on the power play. I can't get 47 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: over see it, can't get over it. Forget the stats 48 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: and two goals last night nine four and two. Shid 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: is everywhere at thirty eight all over the ice, this 50 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: burst from Sid and Gino two and maybe even Eric Carlson. 51 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm convinced it's the young guys and probably energizing the 52 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: whole roster. Probably the good start due to the young guys, 53 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: even though the stars are at the top of the stats. 54 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: And how about Kindle directing traffic on the power play 55 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: and telling Carlson where to go? 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: And Carlson did, I laughed at loud. 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Penguins three for five on the power play, lead the 58 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: league in conversion percentage at thirty nine. Most coaches lean 59 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: towards the veteran, but Raquel when he comes back. Kendall's 60 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: got to stay on the number one power play. He 61 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: is playing so well with the man advantage. He is 62 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: giving MWS zero choice. Like I said, playing thirty nine percent. 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Kendall and Sid are the big catalysts, but Market and 64 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Carlson are also playing great with the man advantage. 65 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: And Rusty got the winner last night on. 66 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: The PP with a cross ice feed coming from Evgeni Malkin. 67 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Now the question is hot kindledoo five on five playing 68 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: on Sid's line on the wing, he was a little 69 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: bit far away from Sid, needed to get closer in 70 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: the offensive zone. 71 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: But in the neutral zone and off the. 72 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Rush, Uh played great. I think that that line's going 73 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: to stay together, mainly because it's got no choice. Hollander, Now, 74 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean Raquel's out for I think five more weeks. 75 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: Halland and now out for three months some kind of 76 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: blood caught situation in his leg. But anyway, it's just 77 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: it's just a great, great story. Are the Penguins and 78 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: they play at New Jersey twelve thirty start time tomorrow 79 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: here all the actual right here on the X. Then 80 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: back at home against LA on Sunday night. 81 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: And by the. 82 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: Way, just because they won doesn't mean they should not 83 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: have started morrishoff. And let's even say they do acquies 84 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: some slight bit, the showbiz starts Shill offs the second 85 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: straight game in Jersey tomorrow and put morishoff in at 86 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: home on Sunday against LA. Okay, that's great, but it's 87 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: a NFL Sunday and the Steelers play that night. That's 88 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna be their lowest crowd of the year. If Mews 89 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: sticks to his goaltending rotation, Morishoff won be his home 90 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: debut until November twenty. First, that's a Friday against Nashville. 91 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, against Minnesota, and that's assuming Jari isn't back 92 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: by then. 93 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: Probably won't be. 94 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: But what if he is, Morishoff will come and go 95 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: and the fans will never get a. 96 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: Chance to see him play at home. 97 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: So it was absolutely still even though the Penguins won 98 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: a bad move to not stop Morrishov last night. 99 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: I talked to Andy cot To, the goal tennant coach. 100 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: He gave no comment when I asked him why more 101 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: Shot didn't play, And when I asked him who decided 102 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: that more Shot didn't play? Andy laughed, But I sense 103 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: that those involved in the process might have disagreed. Let's 104 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: keep talking hockey. Let's bring on Tommy Radio. Tom your 105 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: thoughts on the way Sid's playing. The two goals last night, 106 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: leads the league in goals, leads the league in power 107 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: play goals, him playing five on five with Kindle, him 108 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: being everywhere all over the ice all the time. 109 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: At thirty eight. It's incredible. It really is incredible. But 110 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: it's not that surprising. Maybe it's surprising that he's leading 111 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: the league in goals and he's doing it at this level. 112 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: But you always knew his game was going to age 113 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: gracefully if he could stay healthy, and just. 114 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: If he could stay healthy. 115 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: If like, even though he is a conditioning freak, other 116 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: guys who are conditioning freaks is have their bodies break 117 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: down before they turn thirty eight. 118 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: What you said and you're open about how he just 119 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: in the neutral zones still has that burst, still has 120 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: that speed, that explosion get the people on their feet, Like, 121 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: that's unbelievable, maybe the most unbelievable part of what he's 122 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: doing at age thirty eight to still have that kind 123 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 3: of wow factor in his game. 124 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, and that line's playing great. I think 125 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: that Kindall does need to I mean, Sid Todd Gensel 126 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: how to play with them by getting close doing those 127 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: shortgiven gos Don Low, Kindle can do that. He just 128 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: has to figure it out. And I think he's a 129 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: quick study on everything else. Why would this be any 130 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: more difficult. 131 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: For Ben Kindall? 132 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: So uh? I also like that Tommy Novak fit in 133 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: good on the market line. I mean, he's not real 134 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: top six, but any port in the storm, and at 135 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: least he did okay. I love Manta another goal going 136 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: to the net, just you know, getting in there and 137 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: bowling everybody over and the puck lines up in the back, 138 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: So full credit to him. The fourth line don't suck 139 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: even with the chariot, and still don't suck. 140 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: Now. 141 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: The third line, I thought Heinen did okay, but boy, 142 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: this Villy coyven Nanita goal badly. 143 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you about today, 144 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: was what you think Danton Heinen in that third line 145 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: did last night, because that's the big concern with Kendall 146 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: going up the city. 147 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: It was good enough. 148 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: That leaves a hole though there potentially, so if he 149 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: can just kind of steady that and make the third 150 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: line still effective, then are you're good. 151 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: As much as I. 152 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Think Kendall's best position is center for this team right now, 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: he serves the cause better even maybe when you know 154 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, maybe Heinen's the third line center period. Maybe 155 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Kendall serves the cause better at wing because on since 156 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: wing he's productive, He's not going to be productive as 157 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: a third line center, not with the guy he's playing with. 158 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: So maybe this season until they you know, get a 159 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: few more better guys, or Drew Cloyvenan you know, finds himself. 160 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: Maybe Kindle wing is the way to go. Just say it. 161 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, if everybody comes back healthy, though, that bumps Raquel 162 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: to what the third line or would you break up 163 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: the Monsters with brassers getting healthy. 164 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: It would depend on whether I think that that monster 165 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: line with with Malkin, Mantha and Brazil. 166 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: I think Braso is not going to keep it up. Yeah, 167 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: blod he never has. 168 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: Mantha's you know, had a couple of twenty plus goal seasons, 169 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: but I don't believe in Braso nearly as much. So 170 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: it would depend in terms of who plays on Sid's line. 171 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: It depends on who I think would be more productive 172 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: on that line, Raquel or Kindle. And I'm honestly not sure. 173 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: People say Raquel's a thirty goal scorer because he did 174 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: it last year, Well, he hasn't done it that often. 175 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: And I think Kendall has much better upside obviously at eighteen. 176 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: And you said, I think either earlier this week or 177 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: last week, that Sid's got to keep scoring. He's got 178 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: a hunt for goals this year. This team needs a 179 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: big time goal scorer. Sid's got to be in Kendall 180 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: can be that playmaking wing setting Sid up for goals 181 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: as opposed to you know, Raquel being the wing. Sid said, 182 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: so you kind of. 183 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Like exercise that Marner and Matthew's little bit right Toronto. Yeah, 184 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean I would. I mean, Kendall's doing 185 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: a great job there. I sense that Raquel will go 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: back with Sid when the time comes, but at least, 187 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: at least on a team that has almost no depth, 188 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: some options are starting to materialize. 189 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: And if that does happen, Mark, I don't think you're 190 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: going to be that upset about it if Rikel goes 191 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: back to Sid's line, because then you get the monsters 192 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: on the second line, and then you probably have your 193 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: kid line of coiven In centered by Kendall, and then you. 194 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: Have my my. 195 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: My. 196 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Either approval or disdain for that will depend on if 197 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Covid is fine about score goals and if mcgroarty's you know, 198 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: one hundred percent and able to play like we hope 199 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: you can play. That said, I am hardly giving up 200 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: on Covid in uh. You know, I think he's a 201 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: really talented hockey player and I think he'll be Okay, 202 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: I just think right now he's kind of battling himself 203 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: because don't forget he had a bunch of helpers last 204 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: year but didn't score a goal. 205 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: Right still looking for his first NHL goal. 206 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: Do you think he's a case of Once he just 207 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: finds that one, it could potentially be a Floodgate situation. 208 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: Not necessarily, but I think he'll relax and just play better, 209 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: better hockey. 210 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: Right now, he's really kind of flailing. 211 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: Off, being to stick a little tight. Just I need 212 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: he knows in his head, I need to find my 213 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: first goal, and that's never a good place to be. 214 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: Well, nobody wants to not find their first goal. 215 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: So so okay, uh, you can follow me on Twitter 216 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: at mark man X. 217 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: Seven out last night. That was kind of kind of cool. 218 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Washington fans boosting that, and the crowd's going 219 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: to be, you know, Depth Valley when the Kings visit 220 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: on an NFL Sunday before the Steelers play. But the Penguins, 221 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, unless they've been you know, the Stanley Cup Penguins. 222 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: I was going to say the Crosby and his prime 223 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: Penguins been his prime started when he was eighteen, and 224 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: it's still going on today, but I don't know. I'm 225 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: still really mad they didn't play morishoff. Really happy about 226 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: the result last night. Talked to Kindle, good kid makes 227 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: me feel old. Ran into sin when we were both 228 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: leaving the arena. That was fun. 229 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Always great to get an audience with the with the man. 230 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: But uh, and he's a different cat man when it's 231 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: one on one in private, not like in a media scrum. 232 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: Not that he's bad with the media scrum, but just 233 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: like I said, a different cat I mean that, not 234 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: in a bad way either way, but in a good 235 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: way one on one. Uh. 236 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: And people, how about this? 237 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: People are wearing Kindle jerseys already today at practice. Josh 238 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: Gtsov put a tweet at some guy in the stands 239 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: were in a Kindle jersey. And I've always said somebody 240 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: wearing somebody else's name in number is kind of creepy. 241 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: But the guy was like twice as old as Kindle. 242 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: All right, Uh, we're gonna talk about football at some 243 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: point maybe, but I think we know. 244 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: I don't care. I shouldn't say that, not loud. 245 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: But the Peng wasn't the best story in Time, the 246 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: best story in Ton, But we got some great sound 247 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: about Steelers and Chargers. One thing that we're overlooking. We're 248 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: talking about all the Chalgers there. Their lines beat up 249 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: altsop blah blah blah. Their defense is really badass. It's 250 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of no names. They got guys like Khalil Mack, 251 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: who's kind of washed. But they ranked six and overall 252 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: defense third against the pass. So the Steelers had better 253 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: freaking be able to run the ball or at least 254 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: not abandoned it, you know, at the drop of a hat. 255 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: One O five ninety X, It's the Woody Show Show 256 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: a six, precocious and full of wonderment. 257 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: On one O five nine d X. People are freaking 258 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: out over this year sold out. 259 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Six presented by Capitol Welcome. 260 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Towns a big. 261 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: It's the Mark Man on one O five nine d X. 262 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: We'd to the Steelers in just a little bit, but 263 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: right now we're talking Penguins. 264 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: That game last night with. 265 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Tommy Radio tom they blew the three nil lead in 266 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the third at Toronto and lost. Last night they blew 267 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: a three nil lead and we're tied three to three 268 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: at theater mission. How bad could things have gone if 269 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: they had lost again last night after having led three zip. 270 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: I think it could have gone real bad. I would 271 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: have started to believe that, you know, the bottom was 272 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: going to fall out from the Penguins and they're going 273 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: to start to act like the team we thought they'd 274 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: be at the beginning of the year. And it was 275 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: a mirage in the month of October. But then they didn't. 276 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: They bounced back. They had a really good third period. 277 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Well the two big p ks. Connor Doer like did 278 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeoman's duty on the penalty kill. I can't believe the 279 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: contributions that. I mean, Tommy Novak could yesterday as well. Yeah, 280 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: earned the empty neck goal. 281 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: For those contributions, yeah, I'm not sure you can count 282 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: on that. 283 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: You know that often but from those guys, yeah right, 284 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean they're one of the reasons 285 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: you look at this team and not think it's going anywhere. 286 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean, i mean, somebody got to play. 287 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: Don't you think there's like kind of a symbiotic relationship 288 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: where you've always said, like, the older guys are drawing 289 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: from the veteran are drawing from the young players. But 290 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: then when the older guys are playing to the level 291 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: they are too, the younger guys are like we got 292 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: to keep up. We don't want to let send Gino down. 293 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not sure we're frankly not very good. 294 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Talents like Doer and Novak and Shae and Watherspoon figure 295 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: into that, and Shane Watherspoon are doing incredible is top 296 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: four defense, but which they are. 297 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: Not the defense though in general it has some rough 298 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: patches through games. Mark, I mean she loves in the 299 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: second period, I mean, there was just nothing that guy 300 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: could do. I mean, it was awful for him. I'm 301 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: starting to feel bad a little light in another pinball 302 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: goal though, which you know what I'm saying, though, I 303 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: mean like he was just well no, it's like this 304 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: is you know, one oh one. But they allowed four 305 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: goals in ten minutes at Toronto Monday. They allowed three 306 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: goals in ten minutes last night. They need to work 307 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: on that. And a big part of it is when 308 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: they get a lead. YOI wrote this in this column. 309 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: When they get a lead, they turned to the Harlem 310 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: Globe Trotters. 311 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: They start to play like they used to, like drop 312 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: passes coming through the neutral zone and they just gotta 313 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: shake that permanently because they're not that kind of team now. 314 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: Didn't you think that that was starting to show signs 315 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: of being shaken off at the beginning of the year, 316 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: like they were playing in the Dan Muse structure. You 317 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: think that that's another thing that this. 318 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: No, I think I think it showed up every game 319 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: where they had a lead, like, I think it showed up. 320 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Remember remember they kept they kept conceding to Florida when 321 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: they won down there again. Yeah, I think I think 322 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: we saw what I'm talking about in that game as well. 323 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's what Dan Muse wants to 324 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: have happened. I don't think he wants them to turn 325 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: to the Harlem globe. No, I'm real sure it's so Hopefully, 326 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: hopefully they can figure that out and tighten it up 327 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: and play more of his style. 328 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Remember I said yesterday that even though he didn't show 329 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: it in in preseason, that maybe Ryan Graves in a 330 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: more defensive, systematic method of play like Dan Mws wants 331 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: as supposed to Sullivan, not as much activation or pinching 332 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: by the defenseman, you know, picking your spots, that Graves 333 00:16:59,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: might be better. 334 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: I was wrong. 335 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: He was awful. Heinen was okay. You know, it was 336 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the third center we talked about that a bit earlier, 337 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: but I keep coming back to how great Sid played 338 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: at thirty eight, And I mean this, Tom, what do 339 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: you think. I don't think I'll ever concede that he's 340 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: the best player ever. I think that'll always be Mario. 341 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: And I've always said the top three that you could 342 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: never subtract from and move somebody up into is Mario 343 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: or in Gretzki. But Sid is giving me cause to wonder, 344 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: because again, nobody's ever played like this at thirty eight, 345 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not so sure that somebody's not gonna say 346 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: that he's the best player ever. 347 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: At some point. 348 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: Let's forget about Mario he's number one. Let's talk about 349 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: Gretzky and talk about Sid compared to Gretzki. If Sid 350 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: can get to two thousand points as a modern day 351 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: player and play into his forties, not at this level, 352 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: but say this year, next year at this level, and 353 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: then the drop off is minimal, I mean people will 354 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: default obviously too. I'll look at all the points scored. 355 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: Come on, you gotta give it to Gretzky. But I 356 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: mean in a different era. 357 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, Gret's had this vision for the game, 358 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: this anticipation. 359 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: His passing skills were sublime. 360 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean everything you're saying is Sid too, though not 361 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: like gret No, I mean no, not like Gretz. Okay, 362 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: well then said we'll catch him then. 363 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: But well, I mean, I mean, but then again, Sid 364 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: plays two hundred feet, Sid plays don low. Sid hits 365 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: the corners, you know, I mean Gretz, I mean if 366 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: he came back into his defensive zoners because it was lost. 367 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: I mean the same with Mario. 368 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: Now that didn't apply to either in the playoffs when 369 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: they you know, played much, especially Mario Mario. I mean 370 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: it turned out that when he wanted to be, he 371 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: was one of the best defensive centers in the game. 372 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: Who knew. 373 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, yo, I hope he's listening. Yo, 374 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: He tweeted out. I think when Sid not last night, 375 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: but earlier this week. It took Gretz what to get 376 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: his ninth or whatever goal. It was almost the entire 377 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: season at age thirty eight, and Sid didn't like the 378 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: first ten games like whatever, easy stuff. 379 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, when you when you're compared, okay, Sid's like, 380 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: for sure miles better thirty eight year old player out, No, 381 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: he's the best thirty eight year old player ever period, 382 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: and he probably was the best thirty seven year old. Yeah, 383 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how far we go back, but like 384 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: Mario was retired at thirty eight, or like retired young 385 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: because of his bad knee, and they didn't have the 386 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: capabilities surgically then, and Gretz was just an empty jersey. 387 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Well I shouldn't say that because he had a bunch 388 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: of helpers, but he was no threat to score. 389 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: Now, Gordy had sixty five points when he was aged 390 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: thirty eight, twenty five goals. That was nineteen sixty six 391 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: sixty seven. 392 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just know, I mean, he was great. 393 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 3: But no, well, Sid's gonna have more than those points too. 394 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna have more than sixty five points. 395 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: As much as we like the romanticize Gordy, I mean, 396 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: Gordy elbowed people in the face and broke their nose 397 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: and they would joke about years later how it was great, 398 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: Oh Gordy with the elbows. Yeah, I was in the 399 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: hospital for ten days. But Gordy's not a class with Sid. 400 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: He's not. 401 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: No, I'm with you that Sid is a nailed on 402 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: top five player right now. He's probably number four in 403 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 3: my book right now, and I think he he can 404 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: creep into that top three conversation if he keeps playing 405 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: like this, and again if he gets to two thousand points. 406 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that's an unbelievable milestone. 407 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: You know what's amazing is that Sid is tied for the 408 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: league leaguing goals and he always I mean Sid will 409 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: never say it lot he hates the Flyers, but we 410 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: know he hates the Flyers. 411 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: And Cutter Goatier from Anaheim is tied with Sid. 412 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: And he's the guy who got drafted by the Flyers 413 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: and said, nope, I'm not playing there. 414 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: It's perfect. 415 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: Or did he just tell them not to draft them. 416 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 417 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: And you know what else is great, Mark, The Flyers 418 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: are just good enough that I think they're gonna finish 419 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: in the mushy middle. There's no threat for McKenna to 420 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: be a Philadelphia Flyer. That's glorious. 421 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: Well talk has him playing better. 422 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he can't get Mitchkoff going though, and Mitchkoff 423 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: has to be their best player. 424 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: He's the only eye with the capability. 425 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's not turning off Konetski, but I've 426 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: always felt he's. 427 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: Like forget him. 428 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: I hate him. 429 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 2: He's okay, he's pretty good. I hate him. 430 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: He's a villain for sure. In this fire. 431 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: Victoria is kind of fading. 432 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: When it comes to Mitchkoff. There's a lot of talk 433 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: about him just not coming into camp in shape right, 434 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: like he's kind of had to play himself into shape 435 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: throughout the season. That's been the frustration. 436 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: You know what would have really benefited him as if 437 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: the Russians would be in the Olympics, because because he. 438 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: Would go over there and he would train and all 439 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: that suff. 440 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: He would have been more ready for the season because 441 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: he would have been trying to make that team. That's 442 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: why you give Gino a lot of credit. And Gino 443 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: if he can keep this up. Even if he can't, 444 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: but that rest for the Olympics, that's gonna do him. 445 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: A world of good. On the other side, I do 446 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: although it sucks that they're not. 447 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: You know what sucks to it sucks that the cowardly 448 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: bitch ass hockey media, especially those cowardly bitch ass punks 449 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: at the Athletic No offense Josh uh just just won't 450 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: make a deal out of that because they Oh Russian Ukraine, 451 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: what a terrible thing. How can we let these guys 452 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: play if there's a war, I'll tell you how, because 453 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: war in sport should not be related. Politics and sports 454 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: should not be related. I mean, is Fifam Ben the 455 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: bar Israel? 456 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: You know? 457 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think, where do you stop? 458 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: You can't be selective. But that's what dopes like the 459 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: the thought the social police for the athletic wants. 460 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: There's a precedence too, where you just take the flag 461 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: off their jerseys. You say, you're not representing. I heard 462 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: they don't want to do that. Why I don't know, 463 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: but I heard they don't want to do that. 464 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: That's so dumb. You're robbing, Malkin, you're robbing. I'm just 465 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: telling talking about guys like Malcot and Ovens. They don't 466 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: want to do that. No, the players don't want to 467 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: do it. 468 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: That's okay, okay, Well, you know what, do you want 469 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: to play in the Olympics or not? If it comes 470 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: down to that. 471 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: No, I disagree. I think they should just be able 472 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: to play as Russia. I mean, put it this way, 473 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: if we looked at all the atrocities this great nation 474 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: of ours is perpetrated on the African American and the 475 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: Native American our metal count would be way down, way down. Tom. 476 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk a bit about this this football 477 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: game coming up. You know, I go back and forth. 478 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, if they win, they're in good shape, though, 479 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: aren't they. Because Baltimore plays Minnesota. Minnesota, that's a losable games, 480 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: that's a losible game. 481 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: I think it's their last kind of losable game before 482 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: that Steelers game, because then it's like Browns, Jets, Bengles, 483 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: They're going to run it up on. 484 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy had a good game when they when they wanted Detroit, 485 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: he did. You know what, you know, it sucks. And 486 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: this applies to coyven in two, you know, in a 487 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: much lesser and less visible in terms of the sporting public. 488 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: But whenever, like a heralded young guy plays bad for 489 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: a while, Oh he sucks, he's a buss blah blah blah. 490 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes time. I think McCarthy's gonna be a 491 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: good quarterback. I still think they should have franchised Donald 492 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: for this year. 493 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 3: It's such an up. Donald's a perfect gut of reference too. 494 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: When it comes to that kind of mindset. He sucks, 495 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: he's nothing get rid of him. New York. There's nothing 496 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna get out of him now he's an MVP candidate. 497 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: You sense there's some kind of collusion, and I can't 498 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: think why it would be, but there's some kind of 499 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: collusion to not use the franchise tag in the NFL 500 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: because nobody ever does it. And that situation with Donald 501 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: that was the perfect, you know spot for Minnesota to 502 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: do that with a quarterback you wanted to hold on 503 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to for one more year to try to make the 504 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: most out of the you know, ready to win team 505 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: you had while you transition to the young guy. 506 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: Is the collusion just a result though, if they don't 507 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: want to hear these players bitching and moaning, like why 508 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: the owners callude to take away their greatest asset. 509 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: It never stopped them before. But you're right, I'll put 510 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: it this way. I know that's why TJ. 511 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: Watt too much for too long, and they just don't 512 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: want to hear him whin that's what. 513 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: And they didn't want the fan backlash who think the 514 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: player like, you know what's funny? Usually, like in a 515 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: situation with starting moreshoff. The Penguins fans, especially the social media, 516 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: they agree with everything the club wants, especially younger fans, 517 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: because younger fans are younger people. They just there's such sheep. 518 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: They think they're not with their sheep. They just agree 519 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: with authority while pretending they rebel against authority. But they 520 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: just they're so stupid. They they contradict themselves constantly. But 521 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: but if it comes down to a dispute between club 522 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: and player, they take the player's side, because in the 523 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: case of the TJ. Watt thing, nobody has an Art 524 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: Rooney the second jersey. 525 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: They have a lot of number ninety TJ. Wat jerseys. 526 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 3: Do you think that what happened with Le'Veon Bell spooks 527 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: some teams off too when it came to the franchise 528 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: tag and him just holding out an entire season like that, 529 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: But that should also be a cautionary tale for players 530 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: to add. 531 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh, I think that situation more than anything, Tom was 532 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for Leon be for. 533 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: The players too in the future, like, hey, you sit 534 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: out a year of NFL football, it's tough to get 535 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: back on. 536 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: All right, No moment, We're going to talk a bit 537 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: more about that Baltimore Minnesota game, because I think that's 538 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: a big spot for the Steelers. 539 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: A Mark Mann one O five to nine. 540 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: Tomorrow afternoon, the Pens take on the Devils. Game time 541 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: is twelve thirty. Our coverage starts at eleven thirty. Listen 542 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: to every game and the best Pens coverage on your 543 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: home at the Pittsburgh Penguins five nine b X. We're 544 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 4: adding another show to the Ex's concert calendar. 545 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: Oh they are Green Drudge Age two. 546 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Big weekend. 547 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: I got my Steelers watch party Sunday night at Sidelines 548 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: Berross and Swickly. I got my ball hockey tournament at 549 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: Murray's sport Zone starting tonight and running through the weekend. 550 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: We got Liverpool at Man City. Yikes. 551 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: Then again we killed Madrid well one nil, but we 552 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: badly played him that Sunday as well. And you got 553 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: the River Hounds hosting a Eastern Conference semifinal game Saturday. 554 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: Night at high Mark. 555 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: We got Beato Edrich from that team joining us in 556 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour. But besides the Steeler game, another 557 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: game of interest locally in the NFL as Baltimore plays 558 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: at Minnesota on Sunday. Baltimore's three and five Minnesota's four 559 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: and four, and the Vikings got that huge win at 560 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Detroit last week and maybe JJ McCarthy's coming on from 561 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: Minnesota the young quarterback. Like I said a moment ago, 562 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: when the young guys stumbles, you don't say he's a bust. 563 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: It just takes some diuys longer. Hopefully that's the case 564 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: with Lilly Cloyvenan, the Penguin young Finnish swinger. Minnesota is 565 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: a four point dog and that kind of surprises me. 566 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: With the Vikes being at home, it's a losable game 567 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: for the Ravens and the Steelers need to maintain their 568 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: two game cushion on to Baltimore US and lengthen it 569 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: if possible, because the Steelers will not rally in the 570 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: second half of the season and win the division. 571 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: If the race tightens up, the Steelers have the. 572 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Lead in the division, then you keep it, make it 573 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: as big as possible, and grind the second half of 574 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: the season out. If the Steelers increase their lead from 575 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: two games to three this weekend by beating LA and 576 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Baltimore loses at Minnesota, they're gonna win the division. Tom 577 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Baltimore is minus one forty to win the AFC North. 578 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: The Steelers are plus one forty. That's on bet Parks 579 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Vegas is certainly steadfast with favoring Baltimore, aren't they, And bet. 580 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 3: Parks they really are. And even when you look at 581 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: the Ravens Vikings game, Vegas really loves the Ravens there too, 582 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: favoring them by four and a half on the road 583 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: against the team that's five hundred. So yeah, they're just 584 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: enamored by Baltimore. I kind of still see where they're 585 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: coming from, though, Like I still kind of lean towards 586 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 3: them winning the division. But regardless of what happens between 587 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: the Ravens and the Vikings Mark, if the Steelers beat 588 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: the Chargers, I think they set themselves up gloriously to 589 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: at least hold the Ravens off. They can just earn 590 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 3: a split between the Ravens there and then take care 591 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: of this against the team they're supposed to they should 592 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: win the North. So this week's game, Sunday's game is huge. 593 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: Well, Baltimore's won two in a row now, and like 594 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: you said earlier, this game at Minnesota is like probably 595 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: the last truly losable game for the Ravens, Like they'll 596 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: be favored in every game. 597 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: The rest of the way, don't you think, Well, last 598 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: losable game until they meet the Steelers first. But they 599 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: do have the Patriots and the Packers later in the season. 600 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: But where is the December seventh game at the day 601 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: that will live in infamy. 602 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: It's in Baltimore. 603 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: Baltimore will be favorite for that game. In that game 604 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: for sure. 605 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: No matter what, you matter, what happens between now and then, 606 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: Baltimore or will be favored. 607 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: But Baltimore. 608 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: They won two in a ronof just starting one and five. 609 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: And to me, the big thing about their perceived renaissance 610 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: is their defense has allowed thirty nine points total in 611 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: the last three games, and that's after doing just horribly 612 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: to start the season on route to that one in 613 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: five start, and especially that defense playing much better in 614 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: the round. 615 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: That's the scariest part is that the Ravens seem to 616 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: have figured it out on the defensive side of the ball. 617 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: Because Lamar, before he got hurt, was playing unbelievably at quarterback. 618 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: And I knew he was gonna come back this year. 619 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: I knew he'd be great. I knew the offense would 620 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: be fine. It was that defense maybe would be the 621 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 3: bogie that you know, they'd have to score thirty eight 622 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: to forty points a game, and they just weren't going 623 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: to be able to do that. But if that defense 624 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: starts to come around, I mean, it doesn't even have 625 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: to be a great defense, it just has to be adequate. 626 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: Hold team's like twenty to twenty five points, and that 627 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: offense will take care of the rest. Well. 628 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Van Noy, who's pretty good for Baltimore on that defense. 629 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: He talked about the pass coverage in pass rush sinking 630 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: up that each has to help the other, and you 631 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: look at the Steelers, that's certainly the case there too. 632 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: In today's NFL top you one hundred percent need covered 633 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: sacks because the quarterbacks get rid of the ball so quick. 634 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: And that's why I want the Steelers to play more 635 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: press man, especially with Porter, to just just make the 636 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: quarterback hold onto the ball a bit longer. I'm not 637 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: saying that TJ. Watt should never go sack because the 638 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: quarterback gets rid of the ball quicker, but let's at 639 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: least try to make them hold onto it. 640 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: And I completely agree with that tactic when you look 641 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: at an approach against the Chargers this week, mark because 642 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: don't you just think they're gonna quick game the Steelers? 643 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: What else are they going to do without their offensive line, 644 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: it's gonna be max protection. It's gonna be get the 645 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: ball out quick. You gotta go press man on those 646 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: receivers so Herbert can't just catch the snap and throw 647 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 3: a quick slant like Flacco was kind of doing to 648 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: you in that Cincinnati game. 649 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: I still think Watt has to line up in different 650 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: spots along the defensive line, like Micah Parson in Green 651 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: Bay and Miles Garrett Cleveland going wide so much just 652 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: feeds into the quarterback using that quick release and running 653 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: away from what. 654 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: And doing all the things they do to try to 655 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: neutralize what. 656 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: Because when you're making forty one million, I always go 657 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: back to what Mario said, I make the most. I 658 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: got to do the most what being chipped double teamed 659 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: the other team running away from him. That's not a 660 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: good enough excuse for him not putting up numbers. And 661 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why he's so against it. Oh why 662 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: because he's a conceited meathead who looks at Parsons and 663 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: Garrett changing their games as admitting a weakness and I 664 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: can just do it my way because I'm better than them. 665 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: No, it's a strength to change your game. It's a strength. 666 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: To adapt. 667 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: But you don't think that's what he's thinking. 668 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're right, But maybe he should take a 669 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: page out of his own teammate, Jalen Ramsey's book and notice, Hey, 670 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: he's transitioning to safety right now. He is embracing that 671 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: and moving around on this defense. It's paying off. It 672 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: might extend his career. Maybe I can be a much 673 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: greater impactful player more consistently in the latter's age of 674 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: my career if I let my coaches move me around 675 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: a little bit, put me in advantageous matchups. 676 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: Uh. Did you see Kenny Pickett played last night in 677 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: that game between Denver and the Las Vegas Raiders. 678 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: I didn't see it. I found out today. What's amazing. 679 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: So he's got pass oh for one this year and 680 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: he came in earlier this year and fumbled a snap. 681 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: I mean, just a perfect Kenny Pickett season. 682 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I wasn't Josh Show. 683 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: We had the game on his computer screen, but I 684 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: wasn't watching closely and honestly didn't care enough to check 685 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: out exactly what happened. But I guess Gino Smith got 686 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: hurt and Picket when went in. But then I mean, 687 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: did he come back out? We should look that up 688 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: because I sound dumb when I talk out of my 689 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: ass about something. But I kind of assumed that Gino 690 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Smith got hurt. Pickett went in threw a pass and 691 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: they said, ah, wait, Gino, you're not that hurt. Get 692 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: back in there. 693 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: Shoot him up again and make sure he goes completely numb. 694 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: Get him out there. But for real, how bad is 695 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett when the Raiders suck as bad as they have? 696 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: Gino Smith has sucked all year, and Pete Carroll will 697 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: not go to him, no chance, under no circumstances. Picket 698 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: starter game for me? 699 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: Well, I want to I. 700 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: Want to talk about Kenny Pickett in a very frank 701 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: manner as I have before. And you're a Pit fan, 702 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: so you gotta, you know, take it and Barrett and 703 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Grin tom Bits. But Kenny Pickett never should have been 704 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: a first round pick. Kenny Pickett probably was never good 705 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: enough to even play in the NFL at all. Look 706 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: at this bum, He's a bum. He's an ef and bum. 707 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: Don't smirk at me like that. I'll jump across this 708 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: console and choke you. Kenny Pickett, uh never should have 709 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: been drafted the first round. Only one team wanted to. 710 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: Only one guy with that team, Tomlin wanted to. He's 711 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: a journeyman, Tom, He's he's still within the parameters chronologically 712 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: of his first contract. He's with his fourth team. He's 713 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: an absolute effing bum. He should be embarrassed, ashamed of himself. 714 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you, except for he probably should 715 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: have been drafted, like fifth, sixth round something like that. 716 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: He should have been a free agent. He should be 717 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: able to Steelers practice squad right now. But he won 718 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: an ACC championship. Mark throwing him throw. It's a pretend conference. 719 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: Nobody gives a frig about that. He should be on 720 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: the practice squad right now. Pickett should throwing balls to 721 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Marquez Valdez Scantling. By the way, did you see there's 722 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: a report that he's gonna go right on the active 723 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: roster and get. 724 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: A helmet on Sunday. 725 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: What's that about? I mean Rogers, this whole song and 726 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 3: Dan Rogers, he's on the practice squad. I'm not gonna 727 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: talk about him. 728 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: Well, you heard Valdez Scantling sitting right next to Rogers 729 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: saying this guy wanted to be here for how long? 730 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 2: Which begs the question, why didn't you get here sooner? 731 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: Right? I mean Rogers. If Rogers wants him to dress, 732 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: he will dress. Not the Rogers is to the naked. 733 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: I thrown his weight around that much. Since you know 734 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: in that vein you know roster wise, depth chart wise, 735 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: since arriving with the team. Let me ask you this. 736 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: If Valdez Scantley does get a helmet, who doesn't. 737 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 3: Probably would have to be like Roman Wilson. 738 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: Right, even though that's absurd. 739 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: His Coronic's gonna get one because of his role in 740 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: the run game, right, and because he's just a tough receiver. 741 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: You win like Pursuda. 742 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Pursuda and he knows more about 743 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: football than I do, but he likes do you win? No, 744 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: it was Kobali. Kabali said, you win with guys like 745 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: Skoronik win. What what did he win? 746 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: Who do he ever beat? 747 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 748 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: But Skarroonic's gonna stay on the field. He's before before 749 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: the Steel I can tell you until he won a 750 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: super Bowl. Because the ninth receiver, I should know that. 751 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: I have no idea. It wasn't following Ben Scaronick's career closely. 752 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's that's where this show's probably gone south. 753 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: Tom and I didn't care about the game last night, 754 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: so I'm not sure why pick it went in and 755 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: out of the game. 756 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: I don't care about Ben's Kroonick's career. 757 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't know where he was. Yeah, go ahead, he 758 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: was a RAM for three years. 759 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: Oh did he win there? 760 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 3: He did win. He's a super Bowl champion. 761 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: Well, it's like Kabali said, you win with guys like 762 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: Ben's karonik Uh. Last night was was Pittsburgh Knight at 763 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: the Penguins game, and they had all the Pittsburgh mascots 764 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: there except for Danny Smith. 765 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 5: One O five nine one as your shot at X 766 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: Drug Cash see what I did there thirteen times a 767 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 5: day nine pm. The X will give you the keyword 768 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 5: at the top of every album. Enterady w x D 769 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 5: and you could win one thousand dollars. 770 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: With that much money, you can buy like ten coffees. 771 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: You know what. 772 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 5: I was homeschooled. I'm not good at mouth. Listen all 773 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 5: day for your chance. Has some extra cash on one 774 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 5: oh five nine the X. 775 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 3: From the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This report is 776 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: sponsored by Flynn's Tire and Auto Service. 777 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: Closing out the week with occasional rain today high in 778 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: the low sixties, clearing skies overnight. 779 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: Come Dude Free Show on one DX. 780 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: The pregame show brought to us by our good friend Shanderovia, 781 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: Shandorovitch and Fishman, the personal injury experts. 782 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: They got your back, not your wallet. 783 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: Uh. Last night was Pittsburgh Night at the Penguins game, 784 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: which makes me wonder what the other nights are. Because 785 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: the team's from Pittsburgh and all the home games are 786 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. 787 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 2: You can't really have safe Meadville Night. 788 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: But the mascot's rotten for Steely mcbeam the river Hound. 789 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: I think his name's Ammo, the Pirate Parrot. The perogis, 790 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: of course Iceberg. That's his home turf. The Parogies were 791 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: at the River Hins playoff game last week and they 792 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: were right in front of me Don below. When I 793 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: was in Tofi's owner's box, Tuffy Shallenberger and I started 794 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: telling you you're part of a con, you're helping not 795 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: in cheat the city, and they I don't think you 796 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: can flip me off with those big hands, Tom. I 797 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: think they're frozen that. 798 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: Way, right, yeah, right, But they're probably doing it inside 799 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: the costume. I would love that to carry over to 800 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: actual Pirates games, though. Could you imagine if there was 801 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: just some acid being thrown at the Perogies when they 802 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: get on the field. 803 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: Like boom Gone too Far acid? 804 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: I was just heckling, what do we got from the 805 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peas and Hogies, which 806 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: is great on Root eighty eight in Bethel Park. 807 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: For today's trifector, Mark, I've got three things that the 808 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: Steelers better do against the Chargers. They should be embarrassed 809 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: Monday morning if they fail. Number three, they got to 810 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 3: pick off Herbert. They got to force turnovers. The Chargers 811 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: have given the ball up twelve times this year, that's 812 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: third most in the NFL. And Herbert's thrown eight picks 813 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: this year. That's third most by any quarterback in the NFL. Now, 814 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: he don't care about throwing picks, but you got to 815 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 3: take of that. You gotta capitalize, grab a couple and 816 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 3: overs off of him. 817 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: I agree, but here's my disclaimer. They had no turnovers, 818 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: no sacks against Green Bay. They can't rely on turnovers 819 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: and sacks. I mean, you should get some every game, 820 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: but their best chance is getting a quantity of one 821 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: or the other or both like they did this past week, 822 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: and that's just not always going to happen. 823 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: It's not, but they have to rely on that. That's 824 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 3: the makeup of their defense. 825 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: And that's why they're probably not going that far. 826 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: Number two, you mentioned how great the Chargers defense is 827 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: as far as pass defense is concerned, but you can 828 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: get them on the ground. They give up four point 829 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: eight yards per carry. Only five defenses are better, and 830 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: they give up an explosive run rate of eight percent. 831 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: Only three defenses are better there, So you better be 832 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 3: able to run the football. Good thing. The Steelers ran 833 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 3: for one point seven yards per carry last week. 834 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: Well, you can't abandon the run, even if you do 835 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: have a rough time of it. It was only one 836 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry. And I still think they 837 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: abandoned it too early. 838 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: I think so too. And then Green Bay especially, they 839 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: abandoned the run. They had a lead coming out of 840 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: halftime with the ball, Warren got three carries in the 841 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: second half. 842 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: Well, that that's the thing. Well, they had to lead 843 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: this past week against Indy. 844 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: They could insult run. Yeah, I mean it was a 845 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: game in Indy that was begging you to run and 846 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: kill the club. 847 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: And I think even though I've been up and down 848 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: and I've said lately he's been improving, I don't think 849 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: Warren's number one back because that offensive line is improved 850 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: by Leaps and Bot absolutely, and Warren's still not getting 851 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: enough done. 852 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: He took a big step back last week's disappointing but 853 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 3: number one that Chargers depleted offensive line, the Joe Alt effect. 854 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: They're one and two without Joe Alt five and both 855 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: their starting tackles and one of their bathrooms correct done. 856 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 3: Both their starting tackles are now done for the year. 857 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: They lost Slater at the beginning of the season. Now 858 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 3: Alts done. They need Dan Moore Junior. They should get 859 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 3: on the phone with the Titans. 860 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: Tennessee to late Tennessee's like one win, right. 861 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too late. They should have traded for you. 862 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: Dan Moore Junior. He really has helped them. 863 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 3: But you got a feast. You've got to get pressure 864 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 3: on Herbert and that's kind of twofold because they're gonna 865 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 3: get the ball out quick. So your corners they better 866 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 3: be pressing and they better get sticky in coverage on 867 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: those defense on those wide receivers. 868 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: I've been saying both on Twitter and he that the 869 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: big thing with the Charges is they played tough, hard 870 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: nosed football. 871 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: They punching him up. 872 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Pittsburgh prided themselves on the Steelers being that way. However, 873 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: a false narrative that's grown to be so then they 874 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: responded to me. 875 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's not that big of no, you got to 876 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: play football. 877 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: Come on. 878 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: You know what I could see happening too. The Steelers 879 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 3: totally sucking against the run again, and that is just 880 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: giving the Chargers a life raft if they can run 881 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 3: the ball and not have to worry about Chargers, yes, 882 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 3: and not have to worry about Herbert dropping back and 883 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: passing too much. And that's Herbert running too. By the way, 884 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 3: He's the leading rusher as far as quarterbacks are concerned 885 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: this year. That's a problem. 886 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: Do you know? 887 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I covered Jim Harbaugh for an entire week once when 888 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: he was the Colts quarterback. The year the Steelers beat 889 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: Indy in the AFC Championship Game and went to the 890 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Foster Dallas as the Post Gazette then, and 891 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: the Post Cazette sent me to Kansas City to cover 892 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: the the Indye Kansas City game, which Indy pulled an upset. 893 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: So I went to Indianapolis and it was snowing like 894 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: crazy there, like I could barely get from the motel 895 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: to the Colts practice facility. But I wrote stories about 896 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: the Colts every day. And Harbaugh for a guy who's 897 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of a dig very forthcoming and easy to work with, 898 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: and even easier to work with. The Colts head coach 899 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: then was a former Steeler quarterback Ted Marchibroda, who when 900 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: I told I was from Pittsburgh, kind of really warmed up. 901 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: He was like this likable old guy. And it's one 902 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: of those deals. 903 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: Where I think because Harbaugh saw his coach like was 904 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: okay with me, he was maybe more okay with me, 905 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: but they were both great to work with. 906 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: Harma almost pulled that off too, that Hail Mary at 907 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 3: the end of the game looked like he almost caught 908 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 3: that in the end zone. 909 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: It's like when Nicky six liked me with Motley Cruze 910 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: back when because I was friends with Pete Way, the 911 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: bass player was wasted in UFO and NICKI idolized Pete 912 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: and then I got Nicky drugs and that was even 913 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: you know, a bigger deal to him one oh five 914 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: to ninety X