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Speaker 1: The following takes place between six pm and seven pm.

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Speaker 2: You want answers. I think I'm entitled. You answer the truth.

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Speaker 2: You can't handle the truth.

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Speaker 3: Truth, Truth.

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Speaker 4: All right, good evening, Welcome in. It is six o

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Speaker 4: eight pm. It's Tuesday, December two, and this is RNL

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Speaker 4: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. However, this is

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Speaker 4: not Lance McAllister. It's Tony Pike with you tonight till

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Speaker 4: nine o'clock. Happy to be here on the Big one,

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Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW right down the hall from my normal

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Speaker 4: location on ESPN fifteen thirty. Happy to have you along.

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Speaker 4: Welcome you to be a part of tonight's show. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: seven thousand. We have Bengals galore to get to in

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Speaker 4: our number one, and that will sprinklin to our number

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Speaker 4: two as well. James Rapine, covering the Bengals for SI,

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Speaker 4: is going to join us around six thirty five. We'll

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Speaker 4: talk all things Bengals with him. Seven thirty five tonight,

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Speaker 4: the executive director of the Reds Community Fund, Charlie Frank,

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Speaker 4: is going to join us to talk about what's happening

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Speaker 4: right now with the Reds. It's giving Tuesday, and Charlie

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Speaker 4: Frank's gonna get us all up to speed on that.

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Speaker 4: And yes, I would be remissed if I didn't have

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Speaker 4: a chance to come on seven hundred WLW on the

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Speaker 4: week of the Crosstown Shootout and fail to mention anything

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Speaker 4: with the Xavier Musketeers and the Cincinnati Bearcats. So yes,

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Speaker 4: as we get into our number three we'll talk Crosstown

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Speaker 4: shootout as well. Eight oh five Kegan nickoson Bearcat journal

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Speaker 4: dot Com will join us to talk the shootout, the

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Speaker 4: buzz or lack thereof surrounding this year's Crosstown shootout? Is

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Speaker 4: it a must win for Wes Miller and the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone's in agreement Trick Patino and the Muskies

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Speaker 4: that they get a little bit of a pass this year,

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Speaker 4: and that comes from Musketeer fans themselves. They get a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a pass this year. Is it must

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Speaker 4: win situation for Wes Miller? I also want to know

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Speaker 4: from you the Cincinnati Bearcat football season was blank? Was

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Speaker 4: the football season of success? A failure? A disappointment? Seven

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Speaker 4: wins and what over their posted total? According to Las Vegas,

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Speaker 4: they're Bowl eligible, They're going to be playing in a

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Speaker 4: bowl game. Which bowl game they'll find out on December seventh.

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Speaker 4: They lost four in a rowa in the season. Some

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Speaker 4: would venture to say that is a disappointment. What say

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Speaker 4: you let us know tonight? Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: seven thousand. Also, can we be thankful in this time

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Speaker 4: of the year that the month of November has passed.

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Speaker 4: The month of November not kind for the football teams

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Speaker 4: here in Cincinnati. The Cincinnati Bearcats finished the month of

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Speaker 4: November zh to four. The Cincinnati Bengals, albeit ending the

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Speaker 4: month of November strong, finished one in three. That is,

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Speaker 4: it combined one in seven locally for the Bearcats and

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Speaker 4: the Bengals in the month of November. And yet the

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Speaker 4: Bearcats will go bowling and the door remains opened, albeit slightly,

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Speaker 4: for the Cincinnati Bengals. Week thirteen is officially over in

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Speaker 4: the National Football League. It was a long week that

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Speaker 4: started Thursday night, which finished Thanksgiving Night with the Bengals

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Speaker 4: win over the Baltimore Ravens thirty two to fourteen in

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Speaker 4: a game that saw Joe Burrow drop back to throw

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Speaker 4: thirty two times in the first half forty six times total,

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Speaker 4: but was only sacked one time. No turnovers, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown ran it for five point two yards per carry.

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase one over the one hundred yard mark and

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Speaker 4: only did so, catching half of his targets seven of

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Speaker 4: his fourteen targets, and the much maligned Bengals defense put

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Speaker 4: together what I call their most complete performance of the year.

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Speaker 4: The offensive line is playing better, the protection has been better,

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Speaker 4: the run game has added balance. And there's questions that

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Speaker 4: the Bengals have and some of those questions have already

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Speaker 4: been answered, and some will as the week goes on.

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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson is already doubtful for the game against Buffalo

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Speaker 4: on Sunday. T Higgins is going through concussion protocol. The

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Speaker 4: Bengals hope to get t Higgins back on Sunday. We'll

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Speaker 4: talk a little bit here, and I remember one about

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Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills, but more than anything else, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: the NFL week comes to a close. We are now

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Speaker 4: on to Week fourteen already in the National Football League,

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Speaker 4: and all I see is parody the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: With a win last night on Monday Night Football, the

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Speaker 4: New England Patriots have moved to eleven and two on

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Speaker 4: Football League that possess double digit wins as December gets underway.

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Speaker 4: And yet I would venture to say, if you talk

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Speaker 4: to most and you're putting an amount of money that matters,

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Speaker 4: are the Patriots and the Broncos super Bowl contenders. In

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Speaker 4: the AFC. The Jacksonville Jaguars have eight wins, The Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: Colts have eight wins, the Los Angeles Chargers have eight wins.

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Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills have eight wins. And I think you

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Speaker 4: And then there's a different pack. The Houston Texans winners

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Speaker 4: of four in a row, Davis Mills at quarterback, I

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Speaker 4: think the best defensive front in all of football. Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen thinks so as well. He was sacked eight times

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Speaker 4: by that Texans defense. They're trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: But outside of that, the Chiefs are six and six.

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Speaker 4: Outside looking in, the Baltimore Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 4: are six and six, and the Bengals are at four

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Speaker 4: and eight, and yet it feels like no one would

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Speaker 4: want to play the Bengals if they got in. Moeger

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Speaker 4: mentioned this yesterday on Thetonian Mo Football Show. The Baltimore

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Speaker 4: Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers both had chances this season

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Speaker 4: to essentially end the season for the Cincinnati Bengals, and

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Speaker 4: they didn't do it. And now the Bengals are alive mathematically,

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Speaker 4: they're alive in their playoff hunt. We'll get into that.

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Speaker 4: In the NFC, it's much of the same. I think

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Speaker 4: the Rams are the favorite for me, but the Rams

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Speaker 4: just lost to the Carolina Panthers. The Seattle Seahawks might

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Speaker 4: still have questions around Sam Darnold. They have nine wins

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Speaker 4: and the San Francisco forty nine Ers have won three

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Speaker 4: and I already get nine wins, but you look at

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Speaker 4: their schedule, They've not really played anyone of significance this year.

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Speaker 4: The Tampa Bay Bucks, dealing with a ton of injuries,

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Speaker 4: Is anyone buying stock? And the leaders in the NFC

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Speaker 4: They're on the outside looking in. Eagles are sputtering at

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Speaker 4: eight and four. Cowboys are playing better. But there is

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Speaker 4: more parody as we entered December than I can remember

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Speaker 4: in quite some time. And with that parody also breeds

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Speaker 4: openings not opening for the Cincinnati Bengal Bengals to make

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Speaker 4: some moving here in December, and why not. It's what

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Speaker 4: they've done under Zach Taylor the last three years. In

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Speaker 4: the month of December and January, the Bengals are fourteen

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Speaker 4: and two. Yes, the Bengals fourteen and two through December

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Speaker 4: regardless of how they did it, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 4: how they did it against the Ravens, they're probably going

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills. But it's a chance to go one to

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Speaker 4: oh and if you go one to O this week

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Speaker 4: as a six and a half point underdog, you at

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Speaker 4: least keep your season alive. I'm excited to be here

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Speaker 4: until nine o'clock on seven hundred WOW. It's RNL Carrier

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Speaker 4: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Phone lines are open

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Speaker 4: five to one, three seven, seven thousand, plenty more Bengals

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Speaker 6: Overnight tonight, mostly cloudy. Skies are low down to twenty degrees.

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Speaker 6: We are expecting the sun to return tomorrow. High of

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Speaker 2: and you tell me the first thing that pops into

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Speaker 7: Scott's loan.

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Speaker 2: You cannot say Scott's phone every time?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 7: It a monkey in the jungle.

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Speaker 5: Listening to Scott's.

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Speaker 2: Loan, Scott's Loan, you may become obsessed.

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Speaker 2: A monkey listening to Scott Sloan.

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Speaker 4: Tony Pike. Here in for Lance McAllister James Rapine covering

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Speaker 4: the Bengals for Sports Illustrated. We'll join us after our

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Speaker 4: six thirty break. We got a couple of minutes here.

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Speaker 4: Let's grab our first couple of phone calls of the night.

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Speaker 4: We have John calling in from Boston. What's up John,

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Speaker 4: Tony Pike at night?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 7: How are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 7: I found you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, this is different. It's it's dark outside. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 9: It is and you got snow like we did today.

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Speaker 9: We've got about three inches of snow and the roads

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Speaker 9: were a mess.

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Speaker 7: And I hate the winter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep. It made it a good night to come

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Speaker 4: in late and not early exactly.

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Speaker 9: First of all, I'm ancient, so I've watched the league

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Speaker 9: for a long time and I never remember this.

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Speaker 7: Seam wide open.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it almost feels like you're trying to handicap

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Speaker 9: the Kentucky Derby three months before the race, Like, who

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Speaker 9: knows who's going to be in the playoffs, let alone

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Speaker 9: who's going to be the hot team going into the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Remember the twenty twenty three Major League Baseball Playoffs, you

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Speaker 9: had ninety and seven, the ninety and seventy two Texas

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Speaker 9: It kind of has that feel like, I mean, pick

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Speaker 9: a combination, it could happen.

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Speaker 4: It feels like to me the most ever, get in

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Speaker 9: I was proud of my boy Joe Borrow saying, no,

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Speaker 4: Joining us right now. All those things you are, James,

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Speaker 10: No one listening or anyone related to the Bengals in

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Speaker 10: And there were people saying how Joe Burrow's caught his

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Speaker 10: get it. Pierroon has a ton of value. I also

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Speaker 10: think Chase Brown has a chance to establish himself as

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Speaker 10: one of these elite running backs in the league, and

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Speaker 10: the way he ended the year last year and just

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Speaker 10: wasn't coming off the field at all this year. You

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Speaker 10: do have some maj turon, you can keep them fresh,

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Speaker 10: that's great, but some maj turon needs to be a

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Speaker 10: compliment to Chase Brown. It should not be a fifty

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Speaker 10: to fifty split or anything like that. I would say

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Speaker 10: sixty forty or seventy thirty.

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Speaker 4: On the defensive side of the ball. James, I'm fascinated

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Speaker 4: at the continued growth from Miles Murphy, who's now strung

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Speaker 4: together a couple really strong games, and Joseph Osai and

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Speaker 4: it has me wondering. For the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Samar Stewart has been out, Trey Hendrickson has been out,

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Speaker 4: and this was made a topic when Burrow was coming back,

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Speaker 4: and the conversation was starters and really how many reps

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Speaker 4: you can get in a week of preparation leading up

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Speaker 4: to a game. Do you see any correlation in the

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Speaker 4: growth of Osaia and Murphy and the fact that they

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Speaker 4: have been able to take all the reps for the

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Speaker 4: ones and they're they're not splitting reps. They're not looking

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Speaker 4: over their shoulder. They know that they're gonna get the

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Speaker 4: lion's share. Is there value?

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Speaker 10: There?

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Speaker 4: Is there a correlation in the growth we're seeing on

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Speaker 4: the field versus them getting all the reps at practice.

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Speaker 10: There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it, Tony.

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Speaker 10: I'll do it, Tony Pike anology because you're in every

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Speaker 10: day since three sixty into three down the hall on

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Speaker 10: the SDN fifteen thirty shameless plug. Right, you're in every

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Speaker 10: single day, well, when you were spotting and in here

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Speaker 10: and there and filling in promo here and then doing

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Speaker 10: guest spots there and then doing what you're doing now,

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Speaker 10: filling into lance versus the growth you made when you

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Speaker 10: were on air every single day and you knew it, well,

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Speaker 10: of course you're going to grow. Of course you're going

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Speaker 10: to get better. And I think that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 7: Here's the hard part for the Bengals.

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Speaker 10: They have in their minds been in win now mode,

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Speaker 10: not evaluation mode, and so it's hard. Last year, it's

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Speaker 10: it was hard to say, all right, well we're gonna

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Speaker 10: let Miles Murphy take his lumps while we lose games.

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Speaker 10: That we need to be a wing and so I

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Speaker 10: get that. But part of why you brought in Al

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Speaker 10: Golden was to get the most out of these young guys.

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Speaker 10: Part of why Jerry Montgomery is here is to get

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Speaker 10: the most out of these young guys. And don't look now, Tony,

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Speaker 10: but it does look like with those everyday reps that

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Speaker 10: their talent is coming to light and they need to

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Speaker 10: continue to show it now.

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Speaker 7: And that's the big thing.

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Speaker 10: Like, if you're Joseph Osi, you're in a contract year.

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Speaker 10: These five games are ultra like there should be a

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Speaker 10: ton of pressure on him because he could really get

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Speaker 10: paid this offseason by the Bengals or somebody else. And

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Speaker 10: for Miles Murphy, if he closes out this year strong

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Speaker 10: over the next five weeks and who knows, maybe they

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Speaker 10: go to the playoffs, then we're talking about the Bengals

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Speaker 10: picking up his fifth year option, which would have been

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Speaker 10: insane to say two months ago, and yet that's that's

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Speaker 10: what he could play his way into it. By the way,

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Speaker 10: for those that don't know, sixth year option is big money,

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Speaker 10: double digit million dollars, and so that's going to make

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Speaker 10: Miles Murphy a very very rich man. If he's able

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Speaker 10: to his way into that conversation. So both guys have

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Speaker 10: a ton of money on the line, and the Bengals

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Speaker 10: are banking on them to continue their stellar play.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything in particular from a scheme or adjustment

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Speaker 4: standpoint you've seen Al Golden make that has allowed this defense?

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Speaker 4: You go back to the Steeler Game two defense, I

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Speaker 4: mean they offensively, they gave up two defensive touchdowns to

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, So I say the defense gave up twenty.

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Speaker 4: I thought they had a winning performance against the Patriots,

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Speaker 4: certainly a winning performance against the Ravens. Have you seen

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Speaker 4: anything just playing game plan and schematic wise from Al

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Speaker 4: Golden It's been different.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I like how aggressive he's being in the different blitzes.

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Speaker 10: He's dialed up, and I think that's important when you have.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I think they have a decent.

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Speaker 10: Secondary, like I like the Corners. I think DJ Turner

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Speaker 10: and back Hill are really good. Talk about guys you

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Speaker 10: can build around. I think those two guys compliment each

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Speaker 10: other well, dack Hill's versatile, DJ Turner is just sticky

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Speaker 10: in coverage. Makes sense, and so all right, well, how

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Speaker 10: do you get more pressure? Will you get more pressure

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Speaker 10: by blitzing and it's worked. Jalen Davis, Cinos Stone that

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Speaker 10: used those guys in its work to their advantage. Now

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Speaker 10: that needs to continue. Now there's some film out there.

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Speaker 10: Al Golden wasn't known for his blitzing necessarily coming into this,

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Speaker 10: but that's something that they they have to pick into

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Speaker 10: their moments and get the most out of it because

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Speaker 10: it's a flaw of defense. They're so, I mean, they're

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Speaker 10: not going to go out there and hold the Bills

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Speaker 10: to three point and that's it. Like the be a

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Speaker 10: sound tackling team that does the basic stuff, enforce a

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Speaker 10: couple turnovers like but that's it. Be a sound defense

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Speaker 10: that's opportunistic and and forces a couple of splash plays.

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Speaker 10: And those splash plays don't have to be pick sixes.

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Speaker 10: They could be strip sacks like we saw last week.

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Speaker 10: They could just be sacked and tackles for lost plays

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Speaker 10: that change the game. And so we have seen that

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Speaker 10: in recent weeks. You're right, one of the big what

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Speaker 10: if to me is man had the Bengals brought up

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Speaker 10: Joe Burrow, you know, the defense really gave them a

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Speaker 10: shot in that New England game, yep, and had the

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Speaker 10: splash play then did their job. If they continue to

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Speaker 10: play like that, I think they're going to have a shot,

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Speaker 10: not just in Buffalottle, but a shot any team any week,

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Speaker 10: given the state of parody in the.

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Speaker 4: NFL's that's the thing. It can be one thing to say, Man,

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Speaker 4: if they just won the Jets game or they just

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Speaker 4: won the Bears game, they are what they are right now,

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Speaker 4: but they're gonna be dogs this week. You could venture

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Speaker 4: to say they'll probably be favorite in each of the

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Speaker 4: games after this with Baltimore coming here. If that's the case,

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Speaker 4: is there a realistic shot you see them running the table?

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Speaker 4: And if so, how realistic is that playoff chance?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll say this, if they run the table, if

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Speaker 10: you tell me the Bengals get the nine to eight,

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Speaker 10: book those playoff tickets like book it, book the trip

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Speaker 10: like I'll be planning it because it like planning on

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Speaker 10: me going to wherever they play, which very well would

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Speaker 10: be probably at home if they're winning the division, which

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Speaker 10: sounds great to me. Look, this AFC North sucks. Let's

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Speaker 10: call it like it is.

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Speaker 5: They stink.

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Speaker 10: The Baltimore Ravens stink right now, and who knows, maybe

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Speaker 10: they rattle off my games in a row and finish

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Speaker 10: eleven and six. I don't see that happening. I think

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Speaker 10: the Steelers are awful. And so when I look at

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Speaker 10: this division and yeah, the Bengals, they got to play

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Speaker 10: the Bills this week and then they play the Ravens.

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Speaker 10: If you get through those two games, I think you're

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Speaker 10: winning the division. They'll be six and eight. And you

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Speaker 10: look at the Steelers. The Steelers have the Ravens twice,

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Speaker 10: they have the Lions, that.

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Speaker 7: Have the Dolphins.

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Speaker 10: They have the Browns at Cleveland, which I think is

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Speaker 10: going to be a tough game for the Steelers and

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Speaker 10: the Ravens. They play. The Steelers place the Bengals, the

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Speaker 10: Patriots and the Packers. All you need if you're the

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Speaker 10: Bengals is the Steelers to lose two of those games,

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Speaker 10: the Ravens to lose one game other than the game

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Speaker 10: you play, and you win out like that's going to happen.

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Speaker 10: If you win out, I think the losses will happen.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I'm buying the facts. At nine wins wins

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Speaker 10: the division. I just don't know if the Bengals can

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Speaker 10: do that. That's a lot to ask. It just is hey, Joe,

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Speaker 10: win every start, So eight no is a starter right

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Speaker 10: this year, and that's what he would have to do.

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Speaker 10: But I'm not gonna put it past him, and I

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Speaker 10: certainly think they have a shot, which is all you

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Speaker 10: can ask for when you're four and eight a chance.

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Speaker 4: That's all we want. Awesome stuff, James Man, I can't

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Speaker 4: thank you enough for helping me out tonight. What's the

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Speaker 4: easiest way to uh to follow along with everything you

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Speaker 4: got going on around this team?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you can check me out at Tony Pike cantguard

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Speaker 10: me dot com also Bengals Talk dot com, the Lockdown

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Speaker 10: Bengals podcast in Cincinnati, Bengals Talk on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: You're the best, James Man. Thank you so much and

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Speaker 4: I can't guard you bye.

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Speaker 10: I'm about to get that website out right now.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, James, I'm going to it.

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Speaker 10: Appreciate your tone.

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Speaker 4: All right. That's James Rapine. This is RNEL Carrier Sports

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Speaker 4: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 4: All right, seven oh seven. Thanks for joining RNL Carrier

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Speaker 4: Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Tony Pike in for

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Speaker 4: Lance McAllister. Many thanks to James Rapene for joining us there,

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Speaker 4: and hour number one to talk to Cincinnati Bengals. We've

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Speaker 4: got Charlie Frank of the Retz Community Fund, who's gonna

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Speaker 4: give us a caller on seven thirty five to talk

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Speaker 4: about giving Tuesday, Keegan Nickolson and hour three we're gonna

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Speaker 4: spend time in hour three diving in to the Crosstown

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Speaker 4: Shootout and the Cincinnati Bearcats. My question to you as

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Speaker 4: a Bearcat fan football season was blank, success, disappointment, failure.

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Speaker 4: How do you know the football season for the Cincinnati Bearcats?

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Speaker 4: And what's your take on this year's edition of the

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Speaker 4: Crosstown Shootout? Does it feel like there's the same amount

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Speaker 4: of buzz? And I know that the Shootout isn't until Friday,

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Speaker 4: it's only Tuesday. I get that. But something to talk

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Speaker 4: about as we get into hour three. But for now

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Speaker 4: a little more on the Bengals. Some phone calls along

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Speaker 4: the way right now happening live, they are revealing the

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Speaker 4: college football playoff rankings, the final college football playoff rankings

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Speaker 4: of the regular season, the Week fourteen edition. Once those

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Speaker 4: get through, will update you on those and an interesting

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Speaker 4: piece of note to watch for as it pertains to

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Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. Their pass rusher Joey Bosa left the

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Speaker 4: field against the Pittsburgh Steelers with a hamstring injury. He

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Speaker 4: leads the Buffalo Bills with five sacks this season. He

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Speaker 4: does have a big injury history, and the hamstring injury

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Speaker 4: is something to keep an eye on for the Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: Bengal as they had to Buffalo. It would certainly certainly

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Speaker 4: help the offensive line going forward if they don't have

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Speaker 4: to game playing around Joey Bosa and the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 4: We'll get you up to speed on the college football

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Speaker 4: playoff rankings in just a few moments. Let's grab a

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Speaker 4: couple of phone calls here that've been holding on to

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Speaker 4: kick off the second hour. What's going on? Mark? How

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Speaker 4: are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing all right.

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Speaker 8: You know, I got Tony Pike question.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I asked this question earlier today, but.

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Speaker 11: I wanted to ask Tony pipe out my eyes lying

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Speaker 11: to me that when they added McKinley Jackson to the

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Speaker 11: rotation on the defensive line, they start doing a better

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Speaker 11: job than stopping the run.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's direct. I mean, you could

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Speaker 4: certainly point to that McKinley Jackson has actually been playing

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Speaker 4: in football games, which was a big step from where

651
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Speaker 4: he'd been. I just look at the defense as a whole.

652
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Speaker 4: I think when you look at stopping the run, I

653
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: think McKinley Jackson can play a role. I think others

654
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: play a role. But as James Repeat noted, I think

655
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: there's something to Al Golden and dialing up more pressures

656
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: and putting more pressure in guys at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: I think that's going unto it as well. They're gonna

658
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Speaker 4: get tested this week though, Mark we know Josh Allen

659
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: is a very capable runner and James Cook has been

660
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Speaker 4: fantastic for the Buffalo Bills. That run defense will be

661
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Speaker 4: tested like it hasn't been in quite some time against Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: Okay, my last question for them to win this game

663
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Speaker 8: this week, would it be safe to say they gonna

664
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Speaker 8: They're gonna have to get some turnovers like they did

665
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 8: in his last game for them to have a chance.

666
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: I think turnovers certainly give them the best chance. But

667
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 4: I think if you look what the Ravens did to

668
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 4: the Bengals in the first half and held the Bengals

669
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Speaker 4: to four first half field goals. I think that can

670
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 4: be a storyline as well. This is not as dominant

671
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: a Buffalo team as people thought they were going into

672
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: the to the year. They have struggled at playmaker, at

673
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Speaker 4: wide receiver. They have relied a lot on the ground game.

674
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Speaker 4: So for me, against Buffalo, can you limit their opportunities

675
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: in the red zone to touchdown or to field goals

676
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: instead of touchdowns even if you're not getting the turnovers.

677
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Speaker 4: And I know that the path of victory against the

678
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 4: Ravens was helped with five turnovers that they forced. But

679
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Speaker 4: if you can hold Buffalo to three instead of seven,

680
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Speaker 4: I think you give yourself a good chance because I'm

681
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Speaker 4: confident that the Bengals can score offensively against Buffalo with

682
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 8: Okay, got it. Well, I get off and I'll listen

684
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Speaker 8: to the rest of the show.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Mark, thank you. I mean that to me. Yes,

686
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: if you could go turn the Buffalo Bills over three

687
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: or four times, that would be awesome. But Buffalo, I mean,

688
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: Josh Allen was an MVP for a reason. Buffalo is

689
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: still playing for a lot. They're eight and four. This

690
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: thing could still unrailvle for them a little bit. And look,

691
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: let's face it, whether you're Buffalo, You're Baltimore, or or

692
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: you or any other team in the AFC, your chances

693
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: in the playoffs are better if the Bengals don't make it.

694
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Speaker 4: So make no mistake about it, Buffalo, you want to

695
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: win this game to win. You also want to win

696
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: this game to try to keep the Bengals from making

697
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Speaker 4: this run. And you can essentially end the run. I

698
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: know mathematically it wouldn't, but you could essentially end the

699
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Speaker 4: run if you beat the Bengals on Sunday. I sure

700
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Speaker 4: wouldn't want to be an AFC playoff team. And think, man,

701
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Speaker 4: we should have put the Bengals away when we could

702
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Speaker 4: have at home, Because now the Bengals are getting hot

703
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Speaker 4: and we have that conversation we had last year down

704
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Speaker 4: the stretch. If they just get in, what can happen?

705
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Speaker 4: I think that is a viable, viable possibility. One more here,

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Speaker 4: what's up, Jeff?

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Speaker 8: Hey, how are you doing?

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Speaker 7: Tony good? How are you all right?

709
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Speaker 12: Your question was about the beercat football. Yes, very disappointing. Yeah, no,

710
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Speaker 12: very disappointed.

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Speaker 4: But before I get that that answer from you, Jeff,

712
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Speaker 4: if going into the season, I would have pitched you

713
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Speaker 4: seven and five, would you have felt differently?

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, yes, I thought they were hyped up pretty

715
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Speaker 12: good in the off season about what some of the

716
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Speaker 12: transfers they got in stuff like that. I just you know,

717
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 12: they played the average teams, the above average teams. They

718
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 12: played pretty well when they got into the meet of

719
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Speaker 12: the schedule. I mean they just got beat up yep

720
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Speaker 12: stakes after mistakes and and you know, I don't know,

721
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Speaker 12: I don't know if he's gone away from recruiting Cincinnati

722
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 12: kids and relied more on the transport portal. But you know,

723
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Speaker 12: for that program to be successful, it's got to be

724
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Speaker 12: loaded with Cincinnati kids. You've got to get your older

725
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 12: guys you're saying next guys and some of the more

726
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Speaker 12: were guys. You have to keep those kids in town.

727
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Speaker 12: And we're just not the top twenty you see, didn't

728
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 12: get one of them, not one, And that can't happen.

729
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Speaker 12: Do you know you're close to the program. Does he

730
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Speaker 12: neglect recruiting the area or what's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's it's a couple of different things,

732
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Speaker 4: Jeff One. I think it's a different time when you're

733
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Speaker 4: building your roster. They have they have prioritized the portal.

734
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Speaker 4: And I know that's hard to live and die by that,

735
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: but that's that's been more who they have been. And

736
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Speaker 4: I think the argument to that is looking at a

737
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Speaker 4: guy like Dante Corleone, looking at Joe Royer, who were

738
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: on that roster this year. The years that I was there,

739
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Speaker 4: there was a direct correlation with recruiting Cincinnati and having

740
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Speaker 4: success on the field. The years that Luke Fickle was winning,

741
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: there was a direct correlation with recruiting the area and

742
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Speaker 4: winning on the football field. And I agree, you don't

743
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: have to go far to see why other major teams

744
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: come in to Cincinnati because the football is just that

745
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 4: high calor at the high school level. I just don't

746
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: know how much they prioritize high school recruiting over now.

747
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: The transfer portal that you see, I.

748
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Speaker 7: Just don't get it.

749
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Speaker 12: You know, the top twenty five by a reference before.

750
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Speaker 12: I think Indiana got a couple. Yep, Illinoi's got a couple.

751
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 12: I think Northwestern got one or two, and we got.

752
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Speaker 7: A better program.

753
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Speaker 12: I mean, this program has an opportunity to be special

754
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 12: if you work it the right way. And I just

755
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 12: don't I just don't think it's being done down there.

756
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Speaker 8: I'll leave it at that.

757
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Jeff, I appreciate the phone call. Thank you

758
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 4: for calling in. It's something that I was going to

759
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 4: get to with Keegan at the top of our number

760
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: three because signing day is tomorrow. But I do I

761
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: think there's always been a correlation with the great high

762
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: school football played here in Ohio and a reason why

763
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 4: some of the best teams in the country are coming

764
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Speaker 4: in here to recruit this region as well. Speaking of

765
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Speaker 4: high school football, shout out as well to the Anderson

766
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: Raptors and the Sex Bombers, both teams playing for a

767
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: state championship this coming weekend as well, so shout out

768
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Speaker 4: to them. This is RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

769
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Speaker 4: Kelsey Chevrolet. We'll talk more about those college football playoff

770
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Speaker 4: rankings that were just revealed when we come back on

771
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Speaker 4: seven hundred WLW. Welcome back, Arnel Carrier Sports Talk presented

772
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Speaker 4: by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Tony Pike in for Lance McAllister.

773
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Speaker 4: Thanks for spending part of your Tuesday evening with us.

774
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Speaker 4: Hope you are warm, Hope you're comfortable. Hope you're settled

775
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: in and safe from all the snow. We received earlier

776
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: this morning here in the Tri State area. The college

777
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: football playoff rankings were just released as we went to break,

778
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Speaker 4: and since we have a couple of minutes here, let's

779
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: touch base with that just real quick. Briefly, not many

780
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: changes to the college football playoff rankings in the top ten, however,

781
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Speaker 4: there is some significance after Texas A and M lost

782
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: to Texas, Texas A and M drops to seventh in

783
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: the rankings, so everyone that was behind them just moves

784
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Speaker 4: up a slot. Georgia to three, Texas Tech to four,

785
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: Oregon to five, Old Miss without Lane Kiffen to number six.

786
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: Texas A and M is seven, Oklahoma is eight, and

787
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Speaker 4: then Alabama with their win over Auburn, jumps Notre Dame,

788
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Speaker 4: who stays at ten, but now Alabama is at number nine.

789
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Speaker 4: BYU is officially number eleven, Miami, Texas, Vanderbilt, Utah round

790
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Speaker 4: out the top fifteen. Of course, from the bracket itself,

791
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Speaker 4: it is a little bit different because you're gonna get

792
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: that conference champion. Two levels of the conference champion that'll

793
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: end up being the eleven and twelve seeds. So right now,

794
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: if the bracket were to be played today, the number

795
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: one overall seed, Ohio State would await the winner of

796
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: Alabama and OU Oklahoma. That would be the eight to

797
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: nine matchup. Texas Tech would be the four At the

798
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: top end of the bracket with Ohio State, they would

799
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: play the winner of a conference champion and Oregon taking

800
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: on then Texas Tech. In the bottom half of the bracket,

801
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: Indiana would await the winner of Texas A and M

802
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: and Notre Dame. That is a rematch of an earlier

803
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 4: game where Texas A and M de'd beat Notre Dame

804
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: and that ole Miss the sixth seed would await the

805
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: other conference champion yet to be revealed, and they would

806
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: take on the Georgia Bulldogs after that. So that's how

807
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: the bracket plays out right now. I do think it's

808
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: interesting when you look at Ohio State in Indiana, both

809
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 4: of those teams are in. Nothing that happens this weekend

810
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 4: is going to change that for Indiana or Ohio State.

811
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Speaker 4: How do you coach? How do you prepare in the

812
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: game for Saturday night? That doesn't mean as much now

813
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: because you could very well play that team again in

814
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: the College Football Playoff. Do you hold stuff back? Do

815
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: you keep things vanilla? Do you go all out? How

816
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: do you coach the game if you're one verse two

817
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: knowing that both teams are going to play in the

818
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: college football playoff? Now, what's interesting about the most up

819
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: to date rankings of the teams that are going to

820
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 4: be sitting around watching this weekend? Oregon, the number five

821
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: ranked team, does not play in the Big Ten title game.

822
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 4: Oh Miss number six, does not play in the SEC

823
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: title game. Texas A and M does not play in

824
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: a title game. Oklahoma does not play in a title game.

825
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 4: Texas thirteen outside looking in Miami, outside looking in Notre Dame,

826
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Speaker 4: being an independent outside looking in, which begs the question,

827
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Speaker 4: what's the point of the SEC title game? If you're Alabama,

828
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 4: why would you want to play in an SEC title

829
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 4: game against number three Georgia? Because if you're Alabama and

830
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: you lose the game, does that loss in an SEC

831
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: title game do more damage than if you would have

832
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: just been like Oklahoma this week, sitting around waiting. I

833
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: think that's a viable question. I don't know how much

834
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: Alabama can help their playoff stock by winning. I suld

835
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: think they can hurt their playoff stock by winning. And

836
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 4: it's different for different teams, right, For instance, I think

837
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: the Big Twelve right now is a one bid league

838
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: Texas Tech. However, with Texas Texas Tech ranked four, If

839
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Speaker 4: BYU upsets Texas Tech on Saturday, then I think the

840
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: Big Twelve becomes a two bid league because I don't

841
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: think Texas Tech would drop all the way out and

842
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: by You would then be your automatic qualifier in the

843
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: Big Twelve. So I'm fascinated at the thought of the

844
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: college Football Playoff and how the games that just don't

845
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: mean as much are handled this weekend. Again, how do

846
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: you coach the game? If you're Indiana and Ohio State,

847
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 4: you could very well turn around and play that team

848
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: again in a few weeks. If you're Alabama, do you

849
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: have to win the SEC title game? Can three losses

850
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: keep you in? When you have teams on the outside

851
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: like a Texas, like a Miami. I don't think Vandy

852
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: can reach that far, but you've got Notre Dame in

853
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: the wing, Bama or Oklahoma. It almost becomes a must

854
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: win if you're Alabama. ACC Title game interesting in itself

855
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: because seven and five Duke. After a slew of teams

856
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 4: finished in the ACC with two losses, Duke is playing

857
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 4: Virginia in the ACC Title Game Friday Night, American Athletic

858
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: Title Game, North Texas Tulane, Troy and James Madison. And

859
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: of course, because it just feels like it happens no

860
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 4: matter what every single season, the Miami RedHawks and Chuck

861
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: Martin are back in the MAC Championship this year against

862
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: Western Michigan. At this point, Miami should just get resident

863
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: and see in Detroit. They're at Ford Fields seemingly every year.

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Speaker 4: And this path by Miami has been even more impressive

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Speaker 4: because they did so by moving on from their quarterback

866
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Speaker 4: towards the end of the season and they've still found

867
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Speaker 4: a way to win and gotten themselves again playing for

868
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Speaker 4: a MAC Championship. The other game that will happen on

869
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Speaker 4: Friday night the Mountain West Championship between UNLV and Boise State.

870
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Speaker 4: So a lot of things happening there in the college

871
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Speaker 4: football world. We'll spend more time in the college football

872
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 4: world and college basketball and Hour number three.

873
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Speaker 7: But.

874
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Speaker 4: When we come back, let's switch gears just a little bit.

875
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Speaker 4: It's that time of the year, right Friday was we

876
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Speaker 4: got Black Friday, shopping, Cyber Monday. There's deals everywhere. Then

877
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Speaker 4: you turn the page to what's called Giving Tuesday, and

878
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Speaker 4: the red Community Fund is doing some awesome stuff. And

879
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Speaker 4: when we come back, the executive director of the REDG

880
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: Community Fund, we'll stop by to join us for a

881
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Speaker 4: few moments. Charlie Frank is next on this the RNL

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Speaker 4: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. You are listening

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Speaker 4: on seven hundred WLW seven thirty eight Tuesday evening, RNL

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Speaker 4: Carrier's Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Tony Pike in

885
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: for Lance McAllister. Happy to have you along. It's more

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Speaker 4: of your phone calls in and now our number three

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Speaker 4: five one three seven four nine seven thousand. For now

888
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: we know what it is. We have Black Friday now

889
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 4: on the day after Thanksgiving, and then Cyber Monday happens

890
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 4: that following Monday, and now today it's it's not about

891
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 4: the gifts that you can get, it's it's about giving.

892
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: Giving Tuesday is happening right now and that carries a

893
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: little more weight right now with the Red's Community Fund

894
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: as well. So to help us understand more about what's happening,

895
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Speaker 4: is the executive director of the REDS Community Fund joining

896
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Speaker 4: us right now. Charlie Frank Charlie, what's up.

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00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 7: Hey, Tony.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's uh boy. It's a crazy few days for

899
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 13: your inbox, isn't it? With Black Friday, Feber Monday, and

900
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 13: Given Tuesday. It's a lot to keep tracking.

901
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 4: It is. It's a lot, but we've gotten to the

902
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 4: tail end of it. We've gotten to December second here

903
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: at Tuesday and it is giving Tuesday. Tell us a

904
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: little bit about what's going on and what's happening with

905
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 4: the Reds Community Fund and what they're doing.

906
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, you know, we're we're always trying to make

907
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 13: sure that you know, our key programs are properly funded,

908
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 13: so we are trying to find our our way amongst

909
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 13: all the other messaging that goes on on this day,

910
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 13: and for us, we decided to do something different this year,

911
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 13: and that was to kind of tell the story and

912
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 13: connect the dots. You know, a lot of people, you know,

913
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 13: may be familiar with the Community Fund, with the field

914
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 13: renovation programs and with our youth Academy in the Roselawn

915
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 13: Bond Hill neighborhood, but you know a lot of folks

916
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 13: may not know that. You know, we got about three

917
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 13: hundred and fifty kids that play Red Nike RBI based

918
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 13: on softball. It's about a fifty to fifty uh split

919
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 13: between the boys and the girls. And you know, we're

920
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 13: teams are from ages eight to eighteen. And you know,

921
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 13: these three hundred and fifty that use our academy on

922
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Speaker 13: an almost weekly basis a lot of them more than that.

923
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 13: I mean, these are the primary tenants. I mean, this

924
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 13: is why we really went about the process of raising

925
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 13: the money to build the academy over a decade ago.

926
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Speaker 13: And of those three fifty, about one hundred and fifty

927
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 13: of them are high school aged and for those ninth

928
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 13: through twelfth graders, they are part of our Red's Community

929
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 13: Fund scholars program. You can't opt in or opt out.

930
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 13: I mean, if you want to play Red's Nike RBI,

931
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 13: you're part of scholars Because you know, our goal, Tony,

932
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 13: is to raise major league citizens. You know, you're not

933
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 13: going to be able to send everybody off to college

934
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 13: to play, or to Division one or to Pro ball,

935
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 13: whatever it is. You know, we're trying to get them

936
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Speaker 13: ready for life. And today, with Giving Tuesday, you know

937
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 13: we're asking people to help meet a ten thousand dollars

938
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 13: matching gifts that are board set out where we're providing

939
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 13: scholarships to our thirty two seniors. So for our thirty

940
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 13: two seniors, if you know, if they get to the

941
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Speaker 13: finish line, they're going to get a fifteen hundred dollars

942
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 13: scholarship even without having to apply, because we've been with

943
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Speaker 13: them for a long time. So we're trying to raise

944
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 13: some exposure, you know, for these kids that work so

945
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 13: hard in our game, but also in the classroom and

946
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Speaker 13: outside of it, and then and hopefully have scholarships for

947
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Speaker 13: them by the time they graduate high school.

948
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Speaker 4: That's what I was going to go into next. Just

949
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 4: the support that folks can give, the ways in which

950
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Speaker 4: people can donate. How is that support directly impacting those

951
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 4: those seniors.

952
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Speaker 13: So you know a lot of these young men and women, Tony,

953
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 13: I mean, they're with us for six seven years, you know,

954
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 13: So that the dollars that we raided through the corporate community,

955
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 13: through individual grants and gifts on days like today, through

956
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 13: Giving Tuesday, or through the Red Legs Run some of

957
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 13: other events, these are what keep the lights on at

958
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 13: the Youth Academy, and these are what allow our dollars

959
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 13: to go further so that the kids that play with

960
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 13: us that are you know, playing for a fraction of

961
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 13: the fee that this experience would cost anywhere else. They

962
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 13: get to travel more, they might get you know, a

963
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 13: practice jersey to where since they're with us for twelve months,

964
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 13: they're going to get more resources that we can invest

965
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 13: in the scholars program, more seminars, more workshops that we

966
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 13: can provide for them. We had an NIL workshop within

967
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 13: the last week. We have a new parenting program with

968
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 13: beech Akers to help the parents get more engaged.

969
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 8: You know.

970
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 13: We do a Strength Finders program with different partners so

971
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 13: that the kids have a better understanding of where their

972
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 13: strengths lie, not just as baseball and softball players, but

973
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 13: as young adults. So, you know, every dollar we raise

974
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 13: through the Community Fund throughout the year is again trying

975
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 13: to mbellish these programs, but for tonight, it's to try

976
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 13: to raise money so that we can sure each of

977
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 13: these seniors if they meet the GPA requirement, if they

978
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 13: meet the community service requirement in terms of hours throughout

979
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 13: the year and they all crush it, and if they

980
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 13: attend the minimum number of seminars and workshops, that they're

981
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 13: going to get this fifteen hundred dollars and thirty two

982
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 13: student athletes for us in the senior class. I mean,

983
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 13: that's a big number to RAID and we're you know,

984
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 13: we're grateful to our board for giving us a tremendous

985
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 13: at start, and we're excited to kind of share the

986
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 13: story with the community to let people know how they

987
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 13: can get involved as well.

988
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 4: The Reds Nike RBI program is awesome in itself and

989
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 4: everything that that falls under the umbrella of the Reds

990
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: Community Fund, the red Community Fund scholars. I think it's

991
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 4: important as well. When you think about that, it's it's

992
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: not just the athletic side. You're getting high level baseball

993
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: and softball training, but how important is it with these

994
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 4: athletes that you're getting with that they're also getting the

995
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 4: academic support, the life skills development for these programs for

996
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: these athletes as well. I think it's it's so much

997
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: and in today's where you focus so much on this

998
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: sports specific training that sometimes we lose sight of the

999
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: academic side and just the life skilled development side. And

1000
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 4: I know that's a big focus for you guys as well, totally.

1001
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 13: I mean it is the differentiator for what we do.

1002
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 13: I'll give you an example when when we had the

1003
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 13: ability to travel to Los Angeles before our academy was built.

1004
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 13: So this is going back to maybe twenty eleven, twenty twelve,

1005
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 13: and we saw the very first urban youth academy, the

1006
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 13: one that Joe Morgan inspired Bud Seely to build, and

1007
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 13: the one that Hunter Green came through and JP Crawford

1008
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 13: and you know, Dominic Smith, a lot of you know,

1009
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 13: terrific uh, you know, players of color that have made

1010
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 13: their way up to the Big League. That facility had

1011
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 13: a Hall of Fame wall, and that Hall of Fame

1012
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 13: wall was young men and women who excuse me, young

1013
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 13: men that had signed pro contracts. That was their measuring stick.

1014
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 13: And when I was there, I was really inspired by that,

1015
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 13: you know, because I understood that's what the game needs.

1016
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 13: They need to get more black and brown kids back.

1017
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 8: To this game.

1018
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 13: But at the same time, when we got home and

1019
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 13: we were processing a lot of things that we've seen,

1020
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 13: we realized that that's right for MLB in Constant California.

1021
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 13: It's not who we want to be here at Cincinnati

1022
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 13: and Greater Cincinnati, norn of Kentucky, South East Indiana. I mean,

1023
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 13: we want to be something that helps young men and

1024
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 13: young women and our Hall of Fame wald Tony has

1025
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 13: as many young women on it as young men. And

1026
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 13: of this group of about you know, thirty to forty

1027
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 13: kids that have come through our program and earned scholarships,

1028
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 13: I would say at least a third of them are

1029
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 13: still coaching volunteering, and they, to a person, will tell

1030
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 13: you that they got just as much out of the extracurricular,

1031
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 13: out of the education, out of this, you know, the

1032
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 13: life skills piece of it. There are plenty of great

1033
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 13: baseball on softball travel programs, but that's what you're looking for.

1034
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 13: We're very lucky in this community. We've got great options

1035
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 13: all over the place, but we're we're asking kids and

1036
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 13: families to take on as a different mindset that you know,

1037
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 13: we're trying to build the complete person in the Major

1038
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 13: league citizen because you know, it's only once in a

1039
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 13: great wild that we're going to be able to send

1040
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 13: a young person to a D one program or have

1041
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 13: them sign a cook contract.

1042
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: Charlie, I know that donations themselves can be anything from

1043
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: small to large, twenty five to fifty hundred more on

1044
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 4: on this Giving Tuesday. I know that there's the dollar

1045
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 4: for dollar match as well being put up by the

1046
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: REDS Community Fund Board of Directors. So for those interested

1047
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: in being able to impact or to make a donation,

1048
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: how do they go about doing so?

1049
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, thanks, it's REDS dot com slash Giving Tuesday, and

1050
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 13: that'll stay open. Of course, we're trying to get to

1051
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 13: that ten thousand dollars match tonight, so we will appreciate

1052
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 13: the amount of interest that they're staying already, you know,

1053
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 13: through the red social media sites and and email changes

1054
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 13: that have gone out, there's been a great response. But folks,

1055
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 13: the easiest way to do it is red dot Com

1056
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 13: slash Giving Tuesday, and again you can help us sort

1057
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 13: of reach this goal the stream of ours to make

1058
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 13: sure that not only every young man and woman from

1059
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 13: the senior class this year has got the opportunity to

1060
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 13: have fifteen hundred to put towards college. But you know

1061
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 13: what I mean, a lot of these kids, you know,

1062
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 13: may not go straight to college. They may go to

1063
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 13: a junior college, they may go to a trade school,

1064
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 13: they may go to the military. We have a young

1065
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 13: men last year that went to the Coast Guard Academy,

1066
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 13: So I mean, we just want to make sure that

1067
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 13: they're moving in the right direction. And Reds fans and listeners,

1068
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 13: so I can help us get there. And again it's

1069
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 13: Reds dot Com Slash Giving Tuesday.

1070
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 4: The Giving Tuesday part alone is incredible and especially this

1071
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 4: time of the year, and to be able to have

1072
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 4: an impact like folks can have. I'll also urge folks

1073
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: to go check out just the Reds Community Fund and

1074
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: their website just to see everything that you guys have

1075
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 4: been able to do since your inception in two thousand

1076
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 4: and one. Again, you're using baseball and softball as a

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Speaker 4: way to improve the lives of youth that are right

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Speaker 4: here in our community. So whether it is events or

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Speaker 4: outreach initiatives or ways that folks can get involved the

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Speaker 4: Reds Youth Academy, there's so many different things that you

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00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: guys cover. What's the one stop shop, Charlie, that that

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: folks can just get more acclimated and have a better

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: understanding of so many there's so many things under your

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00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: guys umbrella. What's the easiest way that folks can just

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Speaker 4: learn more about everything the REDS Community Fund does.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the easiest way is to go to Reds dot

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Speaker 13: com slash community that can introduce you to not only

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00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 13: a lot of the fundraising events, whether it's our Red

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Speaker 13: Legs run, whether it's opening to a block party or

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Speaker 13: the Reds Community Fund telethon. But also you know, fifty

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Speaker 13: fifty rapful of home games and how folks could play that.

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Speaker 13: But there's information on all of our youth programs, so

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 13: you know, if you're a fan of the Reds, if

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00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 13: you're a fan of the game, you know, and how

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 13: many people that are from this community don't have it

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00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 13: in our blood to some level. You know, I think

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 13: it's important to know what your hometown team has been

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Speaker 13: up to in this space for the last twenty five years.

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Speaker 13: And you know, our Youth Academy just you know, we

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Speaker 13: could go Thursday, you know, help serve seventeen hundred and

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Speaker 13: fifty meals in partnership with Freesource Food Bank, so you know,

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Speaker 13: we had our GM Brad Metter and you know radio

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Speaker 13: broadcaster Tommy Trawl with us handing out meals. So you know,

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Speaker 13: I mean it's our academy gives us that opportunity to

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Speaker 13: really touch lives on an everyday basis. It's an incredible privilege.

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Speaker 13: But Reds dot com slash community, We'll let you know,

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 13: and it will also help you. If you're a family

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Speaker 13: that's recently new to this area, you're trying to figure

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Speaker 13: out how your children could get involved in the game.

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Speaker 13: You know our website can help you there as well.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Frank, the executive director of the Red Community Fund,

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Speaker 4: on this Giving Tuesday. Charlie, it's always good to catch up, Man,

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00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: and I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoy and appreciate everything you guys

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Speaker 4: are doing with the Red Community.

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Speaker 13: Hey, we appreciate all your support over the years, Tony.

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Speaker 13: Our community fucky to have you as well. And I

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00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 13: got to tell you what you said at the outset

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Speaker 13: is so true. I mean, you know, and we're all

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Speaker 13: in the holiday spirit right now of trying to get

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Speaker 13: organized ahead of whatever holidays to celebrate, you know, to

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Speaker 13: have the to have that day of giving, to have

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Speaker 13: that intentional day where you know, we're people in your

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Speaker 13: community and well beyond our focused on helping you know,

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Speaker 13: all these various nonprofits. It's it's a great addition to

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Speaker 13: the season. So I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic edition and we can't thank you enough. That is

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Speaker 4: Charlie Frank, Charlie, we'll talk again, Sue Man.

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Speaker 7: Thank you okay, thank you, Tony there.

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Speaker 4: He is the executive director of the Reds Community Fund.

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Speaker 4: That is Charlie Frank awesome, awesome stuff from the Community Fund,

1131
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: and and even better to see what the Reds are doing,

1132
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Speaker 4: it's Reds dot com slash Giving Tuesday. You can find

1133
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Speaker 4: out more information and make a nation as well when

1134
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Speaker 4: we come back. I know this is football driven. I

1135
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 4: get to do it every single day for three hours

1136
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: down the hall on Sincy three to sixty. Get to

1137
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: talk about the Bengals every single day. This week's a

1138
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 4: little bit different, and it's still Bengals because it's the

1139
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Speaker 4: Bengals and the Bills and the Bengals are still alive.

1140
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Speaker 4: But we're not talking much UC football. We're talking about

1141
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Speaker 4: the Crossdown Shootout. If you were born and raised in

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Speaker 4: this area, you know what Friday means to both of

1143
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 4: these schools, To Xavier to Cincinnati, both teams coming off

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Speaker 4: a win last night. For the Xavier Musketeers a little

1145
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: bit easier. They beat up on Saint Francis ninety six

1146
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Speaker 4: to seventy four. Xavier's winners of three games in a row.

1147
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Speaker 4: They had that stretch where they lost to Santa Clara

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Speaker 4: and Iowa. Since then, a win against Old Dominion. They

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Speaker 4: took Georgia to the finish line. They lose that game

1150
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Speaker 4: seventy eight, seventy seven. Since then, a ten point win

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Speaker 4: against West Virginia, a win over Texas A and M

1152
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Speaker 4: Corpus Christy, and it went over Saint Francis last night.

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Speaker 4: For the Bearcats, it has not been as easy. They

1154
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: lost that game to Louisville. They came back and beat

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Speaker 4: the New Jersey Institute of Technology before falling to Eastern

1156
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Speaker 4: Michigan last Wednesday, sixty four to seventy six. They did

1157
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Speaker 4: bounce back last night and beat Tarleton State, although they

1158
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 4: were only up two and a half. That all culminates

1159
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Speaker 4: Friday night in the Crossdown shootouts. So we'll talk to

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Speaker 4: Keegan nickoson when we get back Bearcat Journal dot com.

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Speaker 4: To get us started at an hour number three, It's

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Speaker 4: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet right here

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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Speaker 4: One final time, One final hour, RNL Carrier Sports Talk

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Speaker 4: presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I am Tony Pike in for

1167
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: Lance McAllister. Just tonight back at the normal slot tomorrow

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Speaker 4: right down the hall on ESPN fifteen thirty for sincey

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: three sixty from noon to three. If you listen weekly

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Speaker 4: to sincey three sixty, you know our next guest. He

1171
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: joins us each and every Thursday, and yet there's so

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Speaker 4: much going on this week that he's going to join

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Speaker 4: me tonight as well. Covering the Cincinnati Bearcats for Bearcat

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Speaker 4: Journal dot Com. Kegan Nicholson, what's going on, Kegan?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing great, as you know, I've never been better.

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Speaker 4: Keegan, How excited are you that the month of December

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Speaker 4: is here? The month of November not so good for

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Speaker 4: the Bearcats four losses in football and a lost to

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Speaker 4: Eastern Michigan and basketball. You've got to be a static

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Speaker 4: that we're in December.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you know that meme, but it's

1183
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 7: that like kind of dog looking figure sitting in that

1184
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 7: kitchen when it's on fire and he just says, this

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Speaker 7: is fine. That's basically what the end of October and

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Speaker 7: all of November felt like. Tebergham Cincinnati. But I'm glad

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Speaker 7: cross overseason is over and I can just focus on basketball.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 4: Let's get football out of the way first and then

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Speaker 4: turn our attention to the shootout. Let's just make this

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Speaker 4: very simple. If you would have told a lot of

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Speaker 4: people before the year seven and five that hits the

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Speaker 4: over for the Vegas win total, I think there was

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Speaker 4: a large contingent of fans that would have said, yes,

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Speaker 4: seven and five kind of feels like where that conversation

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Speaker 4: would be, okay, the way in which seven and five happened,

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Speaker 4: losing four down the stretch. How do you how do

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Speaker 4: you view the UC football season? Was it a success?

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Speaker 4: Was it a disappointment? How do you Where does that

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Speaker 4: fall in for you?

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Speaker 7: It's it's a weird one because I think I agree

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Speaker 7: that if you asked me before the season, if they

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Speaker 7: were seven and five, would it be a success. Personally

1204
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Speaker 7: for me, I was much higher in Cincinnati before the

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Speaker 7: season than a lot of people were. I predicted that

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Speaker 7: they would go nine to three. I just saw all

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Speaker 7: the talent on offense, all the talent that they were

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Speaker 7: able to bring back, and kind of the culmination of

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Speaker 7: the first two years was year free and this is

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Speaker 7: going to be the best chance by far out of

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Speaker 7: the three years to get to their goals. And I

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Speaker 7: think like you said how seven and five happened was

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Speaker 7: the biggest difference maker, and just the continued struggles in November,

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Speaker 7: which is the most important part of the season, and

1215
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Speaker 7: how a lot of the losses are because of self

1216
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Speaker 7: and afflicted wounds and you're not just going out and

1217
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Speaker 7: getting beat really bad like you did it into Utah.

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Speaker 7: In a way, it makes it worse because it feels

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Speaker 7: like it was right there for the taking, and it's

1220
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Speaker 7: right there for the taking, and then you have a

1221
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Speaker 7: fumble in the red zone or you don't conform, you

1222
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Speaker 7: don't convert a fourth and one at the goal line. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1223
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Speaker 7: So it's just I don't think it was a success.

1224
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Speaker 7: I also don't think it was an abject failure. The

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Speaker 7: only thing that I would say is how can you

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Speaker 7: capitalize on this year and to next season like you

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Speaker 7: did after twenty twenty four. And that's where things start

1228
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 7: to get a little mushy from me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the question around Brendan Soarsby. I saw the answer

1230
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Speaker 4: he gave to you, which was vastly different than the

1231
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Speaker 4: answer he gave a year ago when asked about coming back.

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Speaker 4: Corleone Royer Golday, A lot of the offensive line that

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Speaker 4: was so good. That there are so many meaningful pieces

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Speaker 4: of this team and good players that will not be

1235
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Speaker 4: here next year. That is a huge question mark. I know,

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Speaker 4: signing day is tomorrow. I know there's a a completely

1237
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Speaker 4: different offseason. Anything big expected from a signing day standpoint.

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Speaker 4: And do you feel like this staff is recruiting Ohio

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Speaker 4: as much as they need to?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they're recruiting Ohio pretty well. I think

1241
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Speaker 7: when I looked earlier today was seven or eleven of

1242
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Speaker 7: the guys that they currently have committed are from the

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Speaker 7: state of Ohio, kind of scattered across Columbus Northern Ohio.

1244
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Speaker 7: And then you've got a J. Kurty some Task and

1245
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Speaker 7: Evan Weinberg from Springboro kind of a semi local guy.

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Speaker 7: In terms of what could happen, you know, I wouldn't

1247
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Speaker 7: be surprised if you saw some trips away from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 7: in large part because of the end of the season

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Speaker 7: and a lot of these guys are going to be

1250
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Speaker 7: entertaining offers from other schools that might have a little

1251
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Speaker 7: bit more money, and then they're going to have to

1252
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Speaker 7: balance it with Okay, well, if I have to make

1253
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Speaker 7: a decision for myself, do I want to go to

1254
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 7: a team that lost four years or four games to

1255
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Speaker 7: lose the season, and then it's seven and five. Maybe

1256
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Speaker 7: this team might offer a brighter future. So there could

1257
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 7: be some slips away. There could also be some slips

1258
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Speaker 7: to Cincinnati that wouldn't shock me at all. But as

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Speaker 7: we get into this day and age in which it's

1260
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Speaker 7: a lot of money and a lot of transactional stuff,

1261
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Speaker 7: you never know what can happen. And here can take

1262
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Speaker 7: up an offer very late.

1263
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Speaker 4: Kicking his cross down shoot that week. I don't know

1264
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Speaker 4: if you're aware of that, because I know it took

1265
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Speaker 4: you a little bit to probably get over what you

1266
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 4: witness against Tarlton State last night. I know I struggled

1267
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Speaker 4: getting over that last night. Let's backtrack just a little bit.

1268
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Speaker 4: Let's go back to last Wednesday, the loss against Eastern Michigan.

1269
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Speaker 4: How alarming was like I viewed this loss. I said

1270
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Speaker 4: it on social media. I thought it was the worst

1271
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Speaker 4: loss I've watched as a Bearcat basketball fan. I remember

1272
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Speaker 4: they lost to Colgate. I remember that was also John

1273
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Speaker 4: Brandon's first year. Yeah, you look at Eastern Michigan. They

1274
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Speaker 4: didn't have anyone go off for thirty points. It was

1275
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Speaker 4: kind of balanced scoring. They didn't make twenty threes, they

1276
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 4: only made seven threes. It just felt demoralizing and I

1277
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 4: can't shake that feeling. How did you view what you

1278
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 4: witnessed last Wednesday, the night before Thanksgiving against Eastern Michigan.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. It was really weird because I'm watching

1280
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Speaker 7: the entire game and it's like you said, Eastern Michigan

1281
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 7: wasn't shooting the lights out, like when I think of

1282
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 7: those kind of under the radar, scrappy teams. A lot

1283
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 7: of people remember this game, but when Marshall came to

1284
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 7: fitzerd Arena and I think it was twenty sixteen maybe,

1285
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Speaker 7: and they aid like twenty two threes and I think

1286
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 7: the final of that game was in the eighties. For Copaine,

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Speaker 7: it's a floater at the buzzer to win. That's the

1288
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 7: kind of game where, okay, you can't really do much

1289
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 7: about a team that's just making every shot they take,

1290
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 7: and Eastern mission was not doing that. The effort and

1291
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 7: intensity was not there for Cincinnati, and west Miller called

1292
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 7: it out after the game. He saw guys like Sincy Harrison,

1293
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 7: Dane Thomas do everything they possibly could. They try to

1294
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 7: give a spark, but then it's just the defense would

1295
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 7: fall through and then the offense was non existent. And

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Speaker 7: you know, it was definitely the worst loss in west

1297
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Speaker 7: Miller's tenure. From a purely analytical standpoint at numbers, it

1298
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 7: wasn't the worst ken palm loss. I think they lost

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Speaker 7: to East Carolina, which was about fifteen spots worse and

1300
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 7: ken palm than Eastern Michigan was. But that was in

1301
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 7: year one, and this is in year five, when you

1302
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 7: have all the investment, when you had the talent, when

1303
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 7: you built your foundation, when the roster is suppose to

1304
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 7: make more sense and fit together better, and yeah, you're

1305
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 7: missing Jalence Lesting, you're missing Baba Miller. Absolutely that played

1306
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 7: a factor, and I think if Baba Miller plays in

1307
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 7: that game, they would probably win. But that is no

1308
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 7: way to say that they should have any excuse for

1309
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 7: losing that game at home, especially with how they had

1310
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 7: played against Louisville and how they looked pretty good. So yeah,

1311
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 7: it was I'm not a huge John Rothskin guy, but

1312
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 7: as a pio mer, brutality is a very accurate representation

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Speaker 7: about how that felt.

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Speaker 4: So then you fast forward to last night, you get

1315
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 4: back on the basketball court. You're playing a team in

1316
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: Tarleton State who without what their top without six or

1317
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 4: seven players over sixty percent of their scoring, and yet

1318
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 4: it's a two point lead at the half. It was

1319
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 4: sloppy at the end of the half with the turnovers.

1320
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: What were you able to take, if anything, from a

1321
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: positive watching this team last night, maybe even in the

1322
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 4: second half making some threes and the balance that they showed.

1323
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 4: But what do you take from last night to look

1324
01:09:59,400 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: forward to Freud?

1325
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, the positive is that Baba Miller got back into

1326
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 7: the lineup and got the rough knocked off. Other than that,

1327
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 7: I would say that they made a lot of shots.

1328
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 7: They had a really good three point shooting night. Dade

1329
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 7: Thomas made five threes. Kirk Cresa made six threes for

1330
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 7: the first time since I think twenty twenty four, maybe

1331
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 7: late twenty twenty three, So the ker Cresa, a guy

1332
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 7: that has struggled from three, had.

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Speaker 8: A good night.

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 7: Other than that, you don't really see many positives on Hillery.

1335
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 7: He had a Tony Smell line like have you seen

1336
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 7: that of Tony where it's zero zero? I that was

1337
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 7: like they reminded me of the Howard game when we

1338
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 7: all watched the Howard game at Howard and the guy

1339
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 7: kept on yelling mouse in the house, Like I guess

1340
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 7: Mustapha Sham just doesn't react well when he has a guard,

1341
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 7: like a sixty seven forward guarding him in the paint.

1342
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 7: Because you think you should have twenty five points and

1343
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 7: twelve rebounds, he has your points. He was ever for

1344
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 7: one from the field, the three rebounds in four blocks. Yeah,

1345
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 7: so I don't even know what happened with that, but yeah,

1346
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 7: there isn't much positive Keith on Tylor. Your backup point

1347
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 7: guard plays four minutes. I asked Wes about that, and

1348
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 7: he just says it was a coach's decision and doesn't

1349
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 7: elaborate on it at all. And then ironically, when your

1350
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 7: backup point guard doesn't play that much, your old point

1351
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 7: guard is in the stadium watching five roads.

1352
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we doing? They were showing them on

1353
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 4: the jumbo tron, Teak And what's going on with Gisel James.

1354
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, there were a lot of people were not happy Tony.

1355
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 7: If I see him come out in the uniform, I

1356
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 7: will pack up and leave. I will leave the sent

1357
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 7: off center. Yeah, there were a lot of Cincinnati people

1358
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 7: who were not happy with the jumbo tron operators. When

1359
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 7: that happened, I don't think that's where you want to

1360
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 7: be at from a PR standpoint. But nevertheless, Wes Miller

1361
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 7: said after the game, he's always been enrolled at you see,

1362
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 7: So he was dismissed from the team, but like I

1363
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 7: guess technically still allowed to be on the team because

1364
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 7: he was enrolled. But you didn't comment on his official

1365
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 7: status and say like, hey, he's he's back on the roster,

1366
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 7: he's back on the program, that kind of thing. So

1367
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 7: it's still up in the air from from some standpoint.

1368
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 4: You know, when the season started, I'm asking Xavier fans

1369
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 4: and what's the expectation this year, and they're kind of

1370
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: laying it out as there were no expectations there. There's

1371
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 4: a pass right now for Richard Patino. But I do

1372
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 4: know that their team has gotten better every time I've

1373
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 4: watched them. I know, I know Patino seed is not warm.

1374
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: Is Friday night a must win for west Miller in

1375
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 4: the Crossdown Shootout?

1376
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 7: I I don't think it's a must win because if

1377
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 7: he loses and makes the tournament, he's probably good to

1378
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 7: come back for another year like that. That's the standard

1379
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 7: right now. But if he loses, and I've bos Chad

1380
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 7: Brendle said this after the Eastern Michigan loss, that will

1381
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 7: be used as proof or as a reason to why

1382
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 7: they would fire him at the end of the season,

1383
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 7: Like you only got one win against Xavier, You should

1384
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 7: have probably beat them in twenty twenty three when you played,

1385
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 7: and you should have beat them in twenty twenty five

1386
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 7: when they had a year one roster and looked really

1387
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 7: really disappointing to start the season and then started slowly

1388
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 7: kind of getting better. But right now, I don't know

1389
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 7: if I'm gonna say that Cincinnati is going to win

1390
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 7: that game with any sort of confidence. Like what this

1391
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 7: team has shown through the first is seven eight games

1392
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 7: of the season, I don't know if they can go

1393
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 7: into that tough environment with this group that they have

1394
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 7: and make the necessary plays to win. They just really

1395
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 7: haven't proven that they could do that outside of the

1396
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 7: Dayton game. So yeah, it's it's a it's a bad

1397
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 7: situation for west Miller and his team right now because

1398
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 7: fans are going to go into that game expecting to

1399
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 7: and win handily, and how they're playing right now, I

1400
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 7: just don't see that happening.

1401
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 4: The shootout itself. I've always wondered about the rivalry games

1402
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 4: in today's college athletics, because you know, gone are the

1403
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 4: days where you have a roster full of full of

1404
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 4: four and five year guys that get this rivalry or

1405
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: maybe even grew up around this rivalry. You got a

1406
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 4: lot of guys now that are transferred in, they're still

1407
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 4: new to campus, they're still new to the city. Is

1408
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: there an understanding, Like I know Wes talked about it

1409
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 4: a little bit last night, but do you sense that

1410
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 4: there is a standard in a tone being set by

1411
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 4: Wes Miller about how important this game is on Friday.

1412
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1413
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 7: I think he definitely thinks it's important because I know

1414
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 7: how much he loves to compete. Like in all our

1415
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 7: conversations that we've had, and the vibe that I've gotten

1416
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 7: from him is there's nothing that he loves more than

1417
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 7: competing and being put in these kind of atmospheres. So

1418
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 7: he fully understands it. I think what you say, with

1419
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 7: the roster turnover and all that kind of stuff and

1420
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 7: the new players, I just think this rivalry at the

1421
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 7: end of the day doesn't mean as much as it

1422
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 7: did in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen. And it's also

1423
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 7: not just the roster turnover. It's also both programs have

1424
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 7: combined to make the tournament four.

1425
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 10: Times since twenty eighteen.

1426
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 7: Maybe, like when you look at it, this used to

1427
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 7: be a game where both teams were ranked consistently, like

1428
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 7: it was really good programs with really good coaches, really

1429
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 7: good players that we're going to end up playing in

1430
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 7: the NBA. And also it was like fans loved all

1431
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 7: the players on each team, Like think about getting the

1432
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 7: root for Sean Kilpatrick and Gary Clark and Joe Cumberland,

1433
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 7: Troy Copain, Kevin Johnson, Cashmire Wright. That's just not really

1434
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 7: true anymore. You don't really build that bond and want

1435
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 7: to see these got these specific guys succeed in addition

1436
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 7: to seeing the team succeed. So yeah, it's definitely weird,

1437
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 7: weird time. But you know, all you need is a

1438
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 7: punch thrown and then the rivalry is back on. I

1439
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 7: don't I don't know if that's going to happen now,

1440
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 7: but that could really happen in any game. Because David

1441
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 7: Thomas ad ejected against both con st so you never know.

1442
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 4: I would be remiss if I don't backtrack and at

1443
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 4: least ask you this because my own mental and really

1444
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 4: physical well being is on the line here.

1445
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 8: Uh.

1446
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 4: Do you have an indication in which bowl game the

1447
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: UC football team will be playing in?

1448
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 7: I've heard rumblings of the Rate Bowl and Scenic, which

1449
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 7: I think is better than.

1450
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 4: Listen Kegan as as a dad, as a dad who

1451
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 4: missed Halloween and left the day after Thanksgiving. If I

1452
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 4: have to explain or talk my wife into leaving on

1453
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 4: Christmas night for a bowl game, I will be moving

1454
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,879
Speaker 4: in with you at some point. Can we do anything

1455
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 4: else with the Rate Bowl?

1456
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 7: Tell the kids you have all their presence in Phoenix.

1457
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 7: You have to go and get them. That's yeah, unbelievable.

1458
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 4: All right, I'll take report. I never thought i'd say

1459
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: that in my life, but give me sh report. Unbelievable.

1460
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 4: That's awesome, Keiegan Man, I can't thank you uh enough

1461
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 4: appreciate you joining us. What's the easiest way for listeners

1462
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: that uh that aren't familiar with your work to follow

1463
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 4: along with more of your work?

1464
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1465
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 10: Follow knickus some forty two on X and then make

1466
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 10: sure you.

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Speaker 7: Subscribe to Bearcat Journal. I'm gonna have a ton of

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01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 7: signing Day stuff. Gonna have a ton of danger stuff

1469
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 7: coming up. It's a it's a packed week, so it

1470
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 7: should be fun.

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Speaker 4: Chigan, Thanks man, we'll talk soon.

1472
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 7: Thanks Henny, Too.

1473
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 4: Keig and Nicholson Bearcat Journal dot Com on this the

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: week of the Crosstown shoot I it just it means

1475
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 4: so much here in the city of Cincinnati. I love

1476
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 4: and hate the shootout week all at the same time.

1477
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 4: But we'll spend more time and as we go we'll

1478
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 4: talk more Bearcats. We'll talk some Muskies when we come back.

1479
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1483
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 4: more UC Xavier football, basketball, whatever you want to do.

1484
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Speaker 4: It's Crossdown shoot Out week Giving Tuesday as well. Hope

1485
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 4: you're having a great evening. Let's go back to the

1486
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 4: phone lines. Flip, what up?

1487
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 7: How are you doing?

1488
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm good?

1489
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 4: How are you?

1490
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 7: I'm good, buddy, I'm lonely down here in Charlotte, but

1491
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 7: I just it's been down bad.

1492
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 4: Well you're in Charlotte, but you're a Steeler fan, so

1493
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be down bad, Nick, because you you got

1494
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 4: rid of Darius Lay and you just got Adam Thielen.

1495
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 7: We just got older out some way to the Steelers

1496
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 7: continue to age themselves. I proposed my trade to you,

1497
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 7: but we'll keep it silent because who knows who's listing.

1498
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 4: You're down bad though, because of our Cincinnati Bearcats.

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01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 7: I'm assuming. I just don't get it, Tony, I don't

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Speaker 7: get it. This doesn't seem like there's any light at

1501
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 7: the end of the tunnel here, and dare I say,

1502
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 7: I feel very post Huggins Nancy Zemfish to where we

1503
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 7: just don't see the improvement coming in the near future.

1504
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 7: It just seems like we're lost. I think in all fronts, football, basketball.

1505
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 4: I think that to me is the it's the most

1506
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 4: worrisome part because I get Scout Saddlefield saying, well, you

1507
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 4: went from three wins to five wins to seven wins.

1508
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 4: I get that, and I support that, but it's the

1509
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 4: way in which they did it, and for football, you

1510
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 4: just leave. You lose such a big part of your

1511
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 4: core that you had coming back to this year, and

1512
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 4: to start November you were you were in the driver's seat.

1513
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 4: You were seven and one, top twenty five and you

1514
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: were in the driver's seat to play for a Big

1515
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 4: twelve title, and you completely collapse down the stretch. And

1516
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 4: yet I think, Nick, if there are people that are

1517
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 4: asking between Scott Saderfield and Wes Miller, the feeling around

1518
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 4: Wes Miller, I think is a little more worrisome because

1519
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 4: it's year five and a lot of the conversations people

1520
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 4: are having are the same ones that we're had in

1521
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: year one.

1522
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 7: I agree, Tony, it's just tough.

1523
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 14: You know, we we not you and I, but as

1524
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 14: a state university pay coaches and administrators and awful lot

1525
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 14: of money to produce put a product on the field

1526
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 14: that's worth and worthy of our of.

1527
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 7: Our fandom and our allegiance, and we're not getting those things.

1528
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 7: And I think it's it's difficult, right, Like it's a

1529
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 7: sin sinty sports fan thing, right. I wasn't always that

1530
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 7: growing up, and I'm not always that when the professional

1531
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 7: ranks are playing, but in between there I am, and

1532
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 7: it's it is disappointing, and I don't know what the

1533
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 7: answers are that. So I'm going to ask you, when

1534
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 7: do we get out of this mediocrity? How do we

1535
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 7: step out of it? Will we well? Will will the

1536
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 7: powers that be he finally makes decisions that put us

1537
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 7: in that trajectory. I'm not overly confident, but we can

1538
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 7: be hopeful.

1539
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1540
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 4: I think that's the ultimate question. Now for the Bearcats.

1541
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 4: I went into last year and I thought that I

1542
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: liked what UC had on the roster. And I went

1543
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 4: into this year and I thought, man, I like what

1544
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 4: they have on the roster. I think they've spent the

1545
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 4: money necessary to compete in the Big Twelve. And another

1546
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 4: thing I worry about openly is if you look at

1547
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 4: what players are doing right now that left this team

1548
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 4: from last year, Dylan Mitchell, Arrington Page is averaging fifteen

1549
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 4: points a game for Northwestern. You look at Dan Skillings

1550
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 4: at Baylor. Connor Hickman has averaging fifteen points a game

1551
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 4: at Charleston, couldn't get on the floor at Cincinnati. I

1552
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 4: go back to watching Mustapha Chom last night, took one

1553
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 4: shot attempt as a center who had a height advantage

1554
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: all night. I just worry because it's year five, and

1555
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: my biggest concern is a UC sports fan, and is

1556
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 4: if you wait until it's too long. Can you ever

1557
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 4: get it back? That I think is the biggest worry.

1558
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: In sports, and we have to xavior on Friday, and on.

1559
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 7: Friday it's tough. Listen, it's been good. I appreciate you

1560
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 7: taking my call. I appreciate you shouting out and picking

1561
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 7: my high school, London Red Raiders London for the past

1562
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 7: few weeks.

1563
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 4: London, appreciate that shout out to London. You got the

1564
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: kids are in bed? Are you are you guys like,

1565
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 4: has the elf come back?

1566
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 7: You guys?

1567
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 4: Do the elf on the shelf?

1568
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1569
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 7: We got to get that before we lay down, because

1570
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 7: you know, once you lay down, it came over. There's

1571
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 7: no waking back up trying to move that thing to

1572
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 7: get up earlier in the morning.

1573
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 4: Well, Flip, thanks for listening, Thanks for calling.

1574
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you bet, buddy, I appreciate it.

1575
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, that that to me is a majority of

1576
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 4: the conversation I have with former teammates of mine or

1577
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 4: fans of the University of Cincinnati is there is a

1578
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 4: genuine and legitimate concern around the University of Cincinnati. Let's

1579
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 4: grab one more phone call before we take a break.

1580
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 4: Steve is calling in, what's up?

1581
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 7: Steve Steve can Tony, can you hear me?

1582
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1583
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: I got you, okay, kid.

1584
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 7: I love your show during the day. I listen to

1585
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 7: talk back all the time. I try to rip on

1586
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 7: Audi as much as I can, but he's sabots me.

1587
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 4: That's fair. I get it.

1588
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 7: Anyway.

1589
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 3: God bless you, you know. But uh, my point is

1590
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 3: is whether you're talking reds or Bangles or FC or

1591
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 3: the new where they're going to do build up pavilion

1592
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 3: or something like that all along the river. I'm an

1593
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: old guy and I've been going down to a river

1594
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 3: front or since they tore down the old one over

1595
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 3: by highway. First time I went to a game, I

1596
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: was like six years old and my daddy hold my hand.

1597
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 3: And the first thing is shocked me in my whole

1598
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 3: life was I saw some guy laying up on the

1599
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 3: steps in the way everything and said I need food.

1600
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: And ever since, the whole thing has gotten even a

1601
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 3: little bit worse over time, and I've gotten to the

1602
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 3: point where I won't go to these venues. I'm a

1603
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: disabled be one hundred percent. I would love to go

1604
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 3: down there, but I can't get through a lot of

1605
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: those neighborhoods are put up with the crime that goes

1606
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 3: on when I park, and and my point is is

1607
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: why do they keep cramming stuff down there where people

1608
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 3: like me won't go? And then they wonder why they

1609
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 3: can't buy players because they can't sell them the seats,

1610
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 3: And it's it's perpetually a big problem. It's been going

1611
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 3: on for decades, and I should would like to see

1612
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 3: them do something about it, whether they're busting us in

1613
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: or training us in, or some way we can get

1614
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 3: there safely and leave safely without being a constant. That's

1615
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 3: that's my whole.

1616
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 4: Point, Steve. I thank you. I appreciate your phone call,

1617
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 4: thank you for listening. That's the stadium stuff to me.

1618
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 4: I just not a venture I go down. I love

1619
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 4: the venues in Cincinnati. I like, as much as it

1620
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 4: pains me to say, I like going into the Cintas

1621
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 4: Center on Friday Night. I think that's a world class venue.

1622
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 4: What they've done to Nippert Stadium and Fifth Third Arena,

1623
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 4: the upgrades coming to pay Corps in Great American Ballpark,

1624
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 4: and obviously what TQL Stadium means is awesome for the

1625
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 4: city of Cincinnati. We'll put a bow on this. We'll

1626
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 4: wrap things up when we return RNL Carrier Sports Talk

1627
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 4: presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WLW. Welcome back,

1628
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 4: RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Tony Pike.

1629
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: I'm in for Lance McAllister. Back to my normal station tomorrow.

1630
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,799
Speaker 4: That's right down the hallway here in our Kenwood studios

1631
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 4: on ESPN fifteen thirty for Sincy three sixty from noon

1632
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 4: to three. So would love to have you join us

1633
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 4: for that as well. Appreciate you listening in throughout the

1634
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 4: evening tonight. There's a lot of good college basketball happening

1635
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 4: right now. Duke took a massive lead. Florida has closed

1636
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 4: the gap right now in the sec ACC Challenge, Duke

1637
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 4: leading Florida forty to thirty three. Tennessee and Syracuse are

1638
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 4: in a good one right now. Nine o'clock top of

1639
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: the hour, Connecticut against Kansas and then nine thirty North

1640
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 4: Carolina against Kentucky. That's some blue blood basketball being played

1641
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 4: tonight on a Tuesday night here in December. Also give

1642
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 4: shout out to Charlie Frank of the REDG Community Fund,

1643
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 4: the executive director of the REDG Community Fund, who gave

1644
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 4: us some great stuff talking about giving Tuesday. Check them

1645
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 4: out at the redg Community Fund and see how you

1646
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 4: can be a part of that as well. Also thanks

1647
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 4: to Keegan Nikison to set the stage for the Bearcats

1648
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 4: and for James Rapine who got us all set with

1649
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: the Bengals and the Buffalo Bills coming up on Sunday.

1650
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 4: It's a massive game on set. There's no downplaying anymore

1651
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 4: of the Bengals games. They are all massive, right like this.

1652
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 4: This this isn't reinventing the wheel. I'm not telling you

1653
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 4: something that you don't already know. But again, the month

1654
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 4: of November was awful for football. The Bengals and Bearcats

1655
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 4: canbine to go one and seven on the month. One wins,

1656
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 4: seven losses in eight hours opportunities. That one win is

1657
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 4: a game for the Bengals that kept their season alive.

1658
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about this, and I know

1659
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 4: Mullager hit it with a rocky boyman. December and January

1660
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 4: have been good to the Cincinnati Bengals over the last

1661
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 4: three years. They are fourteen and two over the month

1662
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 4: months of December and January and the AFC North is

1663
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 4: the path. Is anyone scared of the Baltimore Ravens right now?

1664
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 4: Are you scared of the Pittsburgh Steelers right now? One

1665
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 4: of the best memes that I've seen come out is

1666
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 4: that Aaron Rodgers looks like he should be in the

1667
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 4: movie Home Alone as one of the wet bandits. And

1668
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 4: now I can unsee it. But that's who Pittsburgh is

1669
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: right now. Pittsburgh is not dominant. Baltimore is not dominant.

1670
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 4: We talked earlier in the show about just the parody

1671
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Who is dominant in the NFL right now?

1672
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 4: Because going into last week I would have said, well,

1673
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 4: that's easy, it's the Rams, and then the Rams lost

1674
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 4: to the Panthers, and maybe you could try to make

1675
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 4: the argument that it is Maybe the Buffalo Bills are

1676
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 4: that team in the AFC. I've watched Buffalo lose to

1677
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 4: the Dolphins, the Falcons, the Texans. I don't think Buffalo

1678
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 4: is that team. I don't know if Kansas City. The

1679
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 4: crazy thing about Kansas City is if they were to

1680
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 4: get in, they probably would be that team that people

1681
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 4: would fear. But right now they're occupying the ten seed

1682
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 4: in the AFC. The Colts are sliding, the Chargers are sliding,

1683
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 4: the Jaguars. If there's anything about what the Jaguars have

1684
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 4: done that tells you it's coaching matters. I think Liam

1685
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Cohen's a really good coach and I think he's made

1686
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 4: a huge difference with that Jaguars team. But the two

1687
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 4: top seeds in the AFC, New England with eleven wins,

1688
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 4: Denver with ten, I'm just not sold. So if you're

1689
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 4: the Bengals, do you fear that? I don't think so.

1690
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 4: Let's be honest. For the Cincinnati Bengals at four and eight,

1691
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: nine and eight's gotta do it. Joe Burrow alluded to

1692
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: that himself. But at nine and eight, I legitimately think

1693
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals get in to the playoffs. And at

1694
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 4: nine and eight, if the Bengals get into the playoffs,

1695
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 4: who wants to play them? At that point? That would

1696
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 4: mean they would be winners of six in a row.

1697
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow's eight to no going back to last year

1698
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 4: as a starting quarterback, he's won his last eight. That

1699
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 4: would mean them winning six more in a row. Who

1700
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 4: wants to play them?

1701
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 8: Now?

1702
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 4: They are underdogs, and rightfully so against Buffalo six and

1703
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 4: a half point underdog. Will they be an underdog to

1704
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens, I don't think so. I think they'll

1705
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 4: be a slight home favorite. Will they be an underdog

1706
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 4: on the road at Miami? Now Miami is playing much better,

1707
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 4: but I still think the Bengals with Joe Burrow, go

1708
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 4: into that as a slight favorite. Are they favored at

1709
01:30:54,560 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 4: home against the Arizona Cardinals and the Cleveland Browns? I

1710
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 4: think so. So what you have in front of you

1711
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Speaker 4: if you're the Cincinnati Bengals, it's Sunday, And yes it

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Speaker 4: is game by game, it's week to week. I fully

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Speaker 4: get that. But if the Bengals get by Sunday, what's

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Speaker 4: the conversation now become of? Okay, can you win four

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Speaker 4: in a row as favorites? Because I think they're favorite

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Speaker 4: in all four? This is the game. Sunday is the game.

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Speaker 4: Win Sunday, and let's jump back into this. A lot

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Speaker 4: of people are still hesitant. It's a lot that still

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Speaker 4: has to happen. I think the Bengals are favored in

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Speaker 4: their final four when Sunday as an underdog at Buffalo,

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Speaker 4: and I think this gains traction all over the place

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Speaker 4: that the Bengals can legitimately legitimately make a run at this,

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Speaker 4: especially because no one else in the AFC seems to

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Speaker 4: want to do it. Teams have lined up to have

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Speaker 4: their chance. The Steelers on Thursday Night Football when they

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Speaker 4: came to Cincinnati, they had the chance to deal the

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Speaker 4: final blow to the Bengals. They didn't. The Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 4: on Thanksgiving Night had a chance to deliver the vinyl

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Speaker 4: blow to the Bengals. They didn't. Buffalo in the AFC

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Speaker 4: has a chance to deliver a final blow to the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: That's what the Bengals look to fight against on Sunday

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Speaker 4: on the road an Orchard Park against the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 4: This has been so much fun for me, from the

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Speaker 4: Bengals in our number one to James Rapine joining us

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Speaker 4: to the conversations in Hour number two. Charlie Frank Keegan

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Speaker 4: nickoson getting a set up in Hour number three with

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Speaker 4: a huge week for the Cincinnati Bearcats with the Crosstown

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Speaker 4: Shootout and the Cincinnati Bearcats football squad so much around

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Speaker 4: this time of the year to be thankful for. I'm

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Speaker 4: thankful to have an opportunity to sit here and talk

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Speaker 4: about sports each and every single night. So thank you

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Speaker 4: for listening. If you're so inclined, tune in tomorrow and

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Speaker 4: every day from noon to three for SINCY three sixty.

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