1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Mike Florio will join us in six minutes. We're talking 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: a little Husky hoops. In the three p thirty segment, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: we'll have our fun with Audio and Petros pop Padakas. 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: At four o'clock. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: My chance to speak with Petros, which I don't get 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: very often, so we'll have a fun conversation, Jackson. I 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: have right here in my handy little MacBook, I have 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: the list of Super Bowl champions for the last basically 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: this century, okay, since since twenty twenty. And I didn't 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: really I probably wouldn't have no offhand. I would have 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: guessed I would have been close, but I probably wouldn't 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: have known offhand how many Super Bowls were actually one 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: back to back in the last twenty five years. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: And I know that that should be pretty simple, right, 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: do you know the answer? It'd be two? Correct? You 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: know who it is? 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: The Patriots both times? 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Ah, No, the Patriots and the Chiefs. The Patriots, Patriots 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: and the. 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: Chief They didn't go back to back in that second No. 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: They went two out of three and three out of five. 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Three they did not go but they did not go 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: back to back. 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: And the Rams and Eagles ones were back to back. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: Gotcha, and then Kansas City, of course, in twenty twenty 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: three and twenty twenty. 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Four went back to back. 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: So I mean the bottom line is, folks, the numbers 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: are not in our favor. It has happened twice this 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: century that a team has gone back to back to 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Now, but every Super Bowl champion 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: tells a different story. I think we would all agree, 34 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: even if we took off our green and blue Seahawk 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: hat for a second, I think we all agree that 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are in much better shape right now than 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles were a year ago after winning that 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: For purely money reasons. 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, purely money reasons. 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: And also, you know, I don't think anybody looked at 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: that Eagles team as they saw like they saw everything 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of come together for that Eagles team. But I 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: don't remember anybody starting to talk about longevity dynasty, you know, 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: that sort of thing with the Eagles team, similar to 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: the Rams team that won it in twenty twenty two. 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: They saw an older quarterback in Matthew Stafford. The Rams 48 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: took advantage of that same thing with the year before 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Tampa Bay. Nobody thought Tampa Bay was 50 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: going to rattle off for the next six Super Bowls 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: or go back to back, and it was just kind 52 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: of the right timing. The only time we saw a 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: situation whe were like, Okay, this team's gonna be here 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: for a while is after Kansas City won their first 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs Yeah, and the Chiefs were there for a while 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: by winning three of the next six. They basically lived 57 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship Game every single season for almost 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: a decade. So, but most of the other ones, Denver 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning, I mean that guy was done, like 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: completely done, but they found a way to win the 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Nobody, i mean everybody knew Denver was not 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: going to win another Super Bowl the next year. So 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: the good news for the Seahawks is we're much more 64 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: built to last yeah than most of those other teams. 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: The one thing that we don't have, obviously, that New 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: England and Kansas City had is a top three quarterback 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: of all time in history. We love ourselves some, Sam Donald, 68 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: you and I did the rankings last week. 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: We said, you know what we'll have to do. We 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: were gonna do them again. 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: We'll do him again this week at some point on 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: if we don't by putting the salary cap in and 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: where we'd rank Sam Donald in that panthem. But I 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: think we had him ninth or something like that, nine 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: or ten last. I mean, so we got ourselves a 76 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: good quarterback. We certainly have ourselves a quarterback that can 77 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: obviously win a super Bowl because he did even though 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: he didn't play well, he played unbelievable in the game 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: that got us into the super Bowl. So we're in very, 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: very good shape. But the numbers say it's probably not 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna happen. But what's the number one biggest worry in 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: your mind, Jackson right now of the Seahawks not being 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: able to do what they did. 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: Against Sam Donald. Finally, the clock strikes midnight. The Slipper 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: doesn't fit in that he turns from Cinderella back. I 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: think he's gonna be a pumpkin next Dick. 87 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: That's not what I said. You asked me the fear. 88 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of fears. I really don't. 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: I said it the day after the Super Bowl, and 90 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: I'll say it again, is that this team right now 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: is the clear odds on favorites to win the Super 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: Bowl next year, and they should be. They're the blatant 93 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: favorite to come out of the NFC, and I don't 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: have that many fears. But the fear that I do 95 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: have is that Sam Donald turns back into a pumpkin. 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going I see where you're coming from. I 97 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: disagree on a couple of points. One, I think what 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Sam Donald is now is what Sam Donald is. I 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: think we have seen enough of Sam Donald over the 100 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: last two seasons to know that the quarterback from the 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: Panthers and the Jets is completely in history. But we'll 102 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about that. Maybe you 103 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: and I can broach the subject again tomorrow and get 104 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more deeper into the conversation. 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: But right now we got our friend Mike Florio. 106 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 5: It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks 107 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. 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So I get one on one. 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm at the top of the key, I got the 115 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: ball in my hands. 116 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: I get to go one on one with Mike Florio 117 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: from Pro Football Talk. 118 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 6: How are you, Mike, We're softie. 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: He's in MAUI. Oh jeez, you asked. That's exactly oh man, Yes, he's. 120 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 7: As during the scouting combine NFL offseason in full swing. 121 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 6: Who taps out? Yeah? Who Stucky does? 122 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: Yes he does, Yes, he does. But we are here 123 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: working hard for you, and you are here working hard 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: for us. 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: Let's just start the conversation with you where I left 126 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: it off with Jackson. Where should the Seahawks fan have 127 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: the biggest worry right now in their ability to either 128 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl next year or go to a 129 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year? 130 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 7: New offensive coordinator from outside the building, Brian Floury. What 131 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 7: kind of continuity is there going to be within the offense? 132 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 7: And you couple that with the possibility that Kenneth Walker. 133 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 6: The third will be gone. 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 7: We don't know what's going to happen. We don't know 135 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 7: if he's going to be tagged. The reports are he 136 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 7: likely won't be. We've talked over the past couple of 137 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 7: days with both TM John Schneider and coach Mike McDonald 138 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 7: here in Indianapolis. There's been no indication that they are 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 7: going to tag him. So if he wants to go, 140 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 7: and someone wants the Super Bowl MVP and puts a 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 7: price on him more than the Seahawks will and he 142 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 7: chooses to take it, Walker's. 143 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 6: Going to be gone. 144 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 7: What happens with the running game without Kenneth Walker? The third, 145 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 7: especially when we considered the Zach Charbonay had his ACL 146 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 7: repair surgery late last week. Who's going to be carrying 147 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 7: the ball? Can they rely upon that person to get 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 7: it done? If the running game isn't there, it makes 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 7: it harder for the rest of the offense to operate 150 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 7: the way that it has, So that would be the worry. 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 6: New offensive coordinator. 152 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 7: Changes to the system, changes to the running back position, 153 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 7: Sharbonay recovering from the torn ACL. Can they have the 154 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 7: kind of running game that sets up the play action 155 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 7: the deep shots that we saw from Sam Darnold last year. 156 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 7: That would be the big concern the defense, No concern 157 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 7: the offense. And this is one of the byproducts of 158 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 7: being the Super Bowl champion. You lose your coordinator, and 159 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 7: you're basically starting over with a hire from the outside. 160 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Was the Javonte Williams contract a comp that we can 161 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: use and if so, was it good news or bad 162 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: news for Seahawks fans that want walk her back? 163 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 7: Well, other teams will try to use it as accomparable 164 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 7: because three years, twenty four million dollars, it's eight million dollars, 165 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 7: assuming that the reported number is the real number. 166 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 6: A lot of times the. 167 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 7: Number that's reported has a little bit of fluff in it. 168 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 7: Some incentives or other payments that aren't part of the 169 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 7: base package get counted toward it to get it up 170 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 7: to an eight million. 171 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 6: Dollars per year average. 172 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 7: But you look at Javonte Williams and say, well, okay, 173 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 7: he had twelve hundred rushing yards. Is he a guy 174 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 7: who's a threat to take it to the house anytime 175 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 7: he touches the ball? 176 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 6: Does he have that speed? 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 7: Does he have the ability to contribute in the passing game? 178 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 7: And you know, the Cowboys were in a position where 179 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 7: they were able to squeeze him a little bit. They 180 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 7: like to negotiate directly with the player. I think they did, 181 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 7: and I think their hammer was, Hey, if you don't 182 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 7: do this deal. We'll just go sign another second tier, 183 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 7: second wave free agent for one year three four five million, 184 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 7: like they did with Williams last year and replaced him 185 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 7: that way. So that's going to be part of the 186 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 7: negotiation when it comes to Walker. And the reality is 187 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 7: it doesn't matter because if someone else wants to pay 188 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 7: him more than the Seahawks will, he'll have the ability 189 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 7: to walk away unless they tag him. But the fact 190 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 7: that they aren't saying they're going to tag him means 191 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 7: that they regard fourteen million as way too high. 192 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 6: And who knows what the right number is, and we're 193 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 6: gonna find out. 194 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, the player has 195 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 7: to decide what's right for him. Is staying right for him, 196 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 7: is leaving right for him. But we've seen this a 197 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 7: few times in the free agency era where the Super 198 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 7: Bowl MVP becomes a free agent and walks away. Desmond 199 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 7: Howard did it, Larry Brown did it, and Dexter Jackson 200 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 7: did it. 201 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 6: All since Super Bowl thirty one. 202 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: Mike, we always keep a watchful eye on the division 203 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: rivals of the forty nine ers going to lose Trent Williams. 204 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 6: I don't know whether that's the case. Yet here's the reality. 205 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 7: Someone probably Trent Williams agent, leaked to Adam Schefter yesterday 206 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 7: afternoon as John Lynch, the GM of the forty nine ers, 207 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 7: was preparing to head to the podium that there's a 208 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 7: content tracked impass and Schefter mentioned the thirty eight. 209 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 6: Million dollar cap number. 210 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 7: The reality is Williams is due to make thirty two 211 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 7: million in cash this year. The market's twenty eight million 212 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 7: for tackles. Williams is gonna be thirty eight later this year, 213 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 7: and he's got a ten million dollar payment non guaranteed 214 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 7: that he is due on April one, So the forty 215 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 7: nine ers have some time to let things play out, 216 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 7: let things percolate. They could cut Williams right before April 217 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 7: one if they choose to, and I think another team 218 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 7: would find the money in the cap space at that 219 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 7: point to sign him. 220 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 6: I think the idea was. 221 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 7: To put a little pressure on the forty nine ers 222 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 7: try to get this done. They don't want to pay 223 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 7: him thirty two. It wouldn't be an issue. If they 224 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 7: were happy to pay him thirty two, it never would 225 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 7: have come up. They're trying to come up with a solution, 226 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 7: not reduce the cap number. They want to reduce the 227 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 7: cash number. The question is what's the magic number? And 228 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 7: by putting it out there, it's basically an invitation to 229 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 7: any other team that's here in Indy, and they're all 230 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 7: here to tamper and to make an offer. And then 231 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 7: Trent Williams compares through his agent what another team will 232 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 7: offer with what the forty nine ers are going to offer. 233 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 7: And then when it's time for Williams and his agent 234 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 7: to get the forty nine Ers the final answer, they'll 235 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 7: know what's behind door number two. You're not supposed to 236 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 7: know what's behind door number two, but teams have a 237 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 7: way of making that known to the agent of a 238 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 7: player who's facing one of those ultimatums. 239 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: With the success of guys like Daniel Jones and Sam 240 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Donald that have gone from scrap heap to playing very well, 241 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: is Malik Willis the next candidate for that, I'm seeing 242 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: where he could make up to thirty million dollars a year. 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: My goodness, is that is that accurate? 244 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 6: Well? 245 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 7: And it's not an apple to apple comparison to guys 246 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: like Jones and Donald. Malik Willis is a guy who 247 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 7: at one point was the betting favorite to be the 248 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 7: first quarterback taken in the draft. In twenty twenty two, 249 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 7: he felt around three behind both Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ritter. 250 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 6: In Tennessee. It never really worked out. 251 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 7: Starting into his third year, he was buried on the 252 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 7: depth chart. In late August, he was traded to the 253 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 7: Packers for a seventh round pick. When he has played 254 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 7: in Green Bay, he's got six starts, six touchdown passes 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 7: non receptions, three rushing touchdowns, a Patcher rating north of 256 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 7: one thirty four, completion percentage north of seventy five yards 257 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 7: per attempt in excess of ten. He's been spectacular, but 258 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 7: it's a limited sample size. 259 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: The question is, is there's a team out. 260 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 7: There that looks at what he's done in limited work 261 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 7: and extrapolates that out to a full season and says, 262 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 7: we're gonna pay this guy. And if you get multiple 263 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 7: teams in the mix, you can drive the number up. 264 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: Now, at a certain. 265 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 7: Point, I think it's in Elik Willis's best interest to 266 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 7: take a shorter term deal and prove himself and then 267 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 7: cash in. That's going to be part of the balancing act. 268 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 7: The team's gonna want to do a longer term deal 269 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 7: in case it works out, because if it doesn't, just 270 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 7: tear it up and you move on. You look at 271 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 7: what Sam Darnold got last year coming off of fourteen 272 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 7: wins with the Vikings, three years, one hundred point five million, 273 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 7: thirty three point five million per year. It's hard to 274 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 7: imagine Willis getting thirty. But it all comes down to 275 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 7: how many teams want him, whether or not teams believe 276 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 7: he can be the long term answer. And you just 277 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 7: look around the league where the connections are. The Dolphins 278 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 7: are going to move on from t a tongue a 279 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 7: loo if they can structure a deal that gives Willis 280 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 7: that kind of twenty five to thirty million dollars. 281 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 6: Apy would they do it? 282 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 7: Their head coach knows him, their GM knows him from 283 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 7: the last two years in Green Bay. You've got Matt 284 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 7: Lafour the head coach of the Packers. His brother's now 285 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 7: the head coach of the Cardinals. They're going to be 286 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 7: looking for a quarterback. So there's teams out there that 287 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 7: are going to be evaluating Willis. 288 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 6: Because I'm not. 289 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 7: Saying he's going to be a franchise quarterback, but based 290 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 7: on what we've seen it's a hell of a lot 291 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 7: more evidence than we have for a guy who's being drafted. 292 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 7: We don't know whether a guy who's being drafted can 293 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 7: play in the NFL. We know Willis can. The question 294 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 7: is can you do it on a full season basis? 295 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 7: And the question becomes which team is willing to make 296 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 7: the investment? 297 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 6: What's the right number? 298 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 7: But he's gonna get paid, the question is how much 299 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 7: and by whom. 300 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's got a seven four million dollars cap hit. 301 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that is going to be the case. 302 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: So is it a restructure? Is it a kicking can 303 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: down the road? Do they rip it up and give 304 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: him a new deal? What's Baltimore do well? 305 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 7: Steve Ashatty, the owner of the team, said in the 306 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 7: press conference following the firing of former head coach John Harbaugh. 307 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 7: They'd like to work out an extension before the start 308 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 7: of free agency. If not, they'll exercise their prerogative under 309 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 7: his existing contract to restructure kick the can reduce the 310 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 7: cap number. First question is will the Ravens and Lamar 311 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 7: Jackson come together in the short term and do a 312 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 7: deal that would secure his future with the Baltimore Ravens 313 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 7: because he's got littlemate power here. Two more years and 314 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 7: he can walk away and two years. On one hand, 315 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 7: it's a lifetime in the NFL. 316 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 6: On the other hand, it goes by in the blink of. 317 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 7: An eye and he'll be a free agent. Twenty twenty eight, 318 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 7: he'll be a free agent. He can go anywhere he wants. 319 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 7: If he doesn't do a new deal, they're going to 320 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 7: have to entice him to do a new deal. And 321 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 7: he's been wanting a new deal for the last year, 322 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 7: so the market changed. He's a two time MVP. His 323 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 7: average is fifty two point five. The top of the 324 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 7: market technically is sixty, although if you look at the 325 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 7: new money average on the Josh Allen contract it's a 326 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 7: lot higher than that. I think something in the range 327 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 7: is sixty to sixty two would get Lamar Jackson done, 328 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 7: and I've worked out the numbers. It's a three year 329 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 7: extension on the current two year deal. He'll give him 330 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 7: a new five year contract. But if he wants, he 331 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 7: can just make one hundred and four million over the 332 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 7: next two years and walk away. It's going to be 333 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 7: up to him one way or the other. Of the 334 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 7: Ravens are going to reduce that cap number. It's whether 335 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 7: they wave a magic wand and kick the can or 336 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 7: whether it's they work out a new contract. It pays 337 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 7: them at the top of the market. 338 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the Ravens, did we find out yesterday 339 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: from Troy Vincent that maybe the wrong team won the 340 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: NFC North and the Ravens should have been the victors. 341 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 7: Hey, this is something that I've been banging on ever 342 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 7: since it happened. It was December seven, Week fourteen. There 343 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 7: were three highly controversial calls in the Steelers Ravens game. 344 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 6: One. The league admitted the next day that it was incorrect. 345 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 7: It was an unnecessary roughnance call on a leverage issue 346 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 7: with a field goal attempt where a flag was thrown 347 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 7: and it shouldn't have been. Three points came off the board. 348 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 7: The Steelers then scored seven. On the next play. There 349 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 7: was an interception by the Ravens on a path that 350 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 7: was batted caught by Aaron Rodgers. He lost it while 351 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 7: he went to the ground. The ball came out, the 352 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 7: Ravens caught it. They overturned it to a catch and 353 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 7: that's the one that really came in to focus. After 354 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 7: the Bills Broncos playoff game. Because under the reasoning that 355 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 7: the league gave in defending the decision to take the 356 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 7: interception off the board and make it a catch, you 357 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 7: apply that reasoning to the Brandon Cooks play from that 358 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 7: playoff game. It should have been a catch by Brandon 359 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 7: Cooks because he's going to the ground, but he's down 360 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 7: by contact, so it doesn't matter if he loses the 361 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 7: ball if he's down by contact. The league admitted that 362 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 7: was incorrect to overturn the interception and call it a catch, So. 363 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 6: That that settles the issue of Bill's Broncos. We have harmony. 364 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 6: Now there wasn't harmony. 365 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 7: You couldn't reconcile it too by admitting that we've reckoned. 366 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 7: But the Ravens now look at it and say, well, 367 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 7: we got screwed out of that possession, right, And you 368 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 7: throw on top of it the Isaiah likely touchdown that 369 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 7: was taken off the board, and you can make the 370 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 7: argument the Ravens should have won that game, and if 371 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 7: they had, they may have been likely would have been 372 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 7: the AFT North champions, and maybe John Harbod is still 373 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: the head coach of the Ravens. 374 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the slippery slope that we go down, Mike, always 375 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: a pleasure. 376 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week, Seeyboddy, you bet, Mike. 377 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: Florio Pro football talk, all right, when we come back, 378 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the the forgotten team in 379 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Seattle and the Washington Husky basketball team has been forgotten 380 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: for a long long time for obvious reasons. And I'm 381 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: I see a difference in this team and it shouldn't 382 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: be as forgotten this year as it been in the past. 383 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: But there's still some. 384 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: Wards and we'll talk about those what those warts are, 385 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: but we'll also talk about what's right about the Husky 386 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: basketball team. Next on ninety three point three KJRFM. 387 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 8: From the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio. 388 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: Now back to SOFTI on your home for the Huskies. 389 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 8: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 390 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 8: three kJ. 391 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 7: R FM, Welcome back. 392 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: About an hour left of the big Show before kracking Hockey, 393 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: we turned things over to Michael Benton. Does the Kraken 394 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: try to go for their seventh win in their last 395 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: nine games? We kind of forget how hot they were 396 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: because it was a long time ago when they played 397 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: their last game, but they were playing very, very good 398 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: hockey going into the going into the break, and I'm 399 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: kind of thinking that it was good timing because the 400 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: way the Kraken season has gone Jackson, It's been like 401 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: a great two weeks followed by a horrible two weeks 402 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: followed by a great two weeks. So we had our 403 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: great two weeks and then we had the break, and 404 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: I think that eliminated the horrible two week stretch. We 405 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: just erased it, I hope, So now we're gonna start 406 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: another great stretch. 407 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: I'm what I'm most interested with the Kraken right now 408 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: is how much momentum do they and frankly, the whole 409 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: NHL get from Team USA has went on Sunday. 410 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: Do you the viewership know? 411 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: Is the listeners today and tomorrow too with the same 412 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 4: time of game of a four to thirty pre five 413 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 4: o'clock face off, I mean, and the overall fans like, 414 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to take in more crack and hockey now 415 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: because I'm in the hockey mood and I think that 416 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: probably a lot of people around the country are the same. 417 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: No, I think so, And I'm, like I mentioned to 418 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: Ian in the last hour, I'm I'm totally ready to watch. 419 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch way more cracking hockey in March in 420 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: April than I did and listen to it on the 421 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: air as well with with our guy Evert Fitzhugh. Well, 422 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: we had a different game on yesterday on our air, 423 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: Jackson at three point thirty that preempted the show. 424 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: Was so bad, too bad, too bad, the show was preempted. 425 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: I got a chance to instead to watch and listen 426 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: to some Husky basketball yesterday and they got to win 427 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: at Rutgers. And this has been a very, very difficult 428 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: season for Danny Sprinkle, and I wanted to play this 429 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: clip when he was on postgame with Jason and Tony 430 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: yesterday just to kind of give you a sense of 431 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: the exhausted Danny Sprinkle, somewhat beliegued Danny Sprinkle, and yet 432 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: still very proud Danny Sprinkle of his basketball team. 433 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 9: I don't even know if our fans, well, first I 434 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 9: know they don't know what we've been through. They just don't, 435 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 9: Like you can't unless you've been on every trip like 436 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 9: you guys have, and you've seen the travel, the schedule, 437 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 9: the environments we've had to play in, and the injuries 438 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 9: and just the stuff that we're still young I mean, 439 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 9: we are, like, it's crazy that these guys, but I 440 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 9: think they're so young. That's why they just coming back 441 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 9: with a great attitude every day. They don't even know 442 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 9: any better, they really don't. And I know they're exhausted 443 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 9: and it's showed in some games. And you know, yeah, 444 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 9: we disappointed with the Penn State and the and the 445 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 9: Maryland losses that you know, they were close games. But yeah, 446 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 9: but like you can't. You can't tell me our guys 447 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 9: like they don't care and they're not giving the effort. Man, 448 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 9: they just they just are and it's we're gonna have 449 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 9: days where we're running in quick sand. 450 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: But I couldn't tell you. 451 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how proud I am with this team. 452 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: I think it'd be. 453 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Very easy for people to just kind of look at 454 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: the box scores, look at the record and then hear 455 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: it cut like that from Danny Sprinkle and say excuses, excuses, 456 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: particularly because it's the Husky basketball team that's been bad 457 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: for a majority of the last fifteen years. So let 458 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: me just present some facts to you and then you 459 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: can decide whether you think what Danny Sprinkle just said 460 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: is just a bunch of excuses. Or whether you think 461 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: it's legitimate reasons and also reason for optimism for the 462 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: future of Danny Sprinkle basketball at Washington. The Huskies have 463 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: lost over ninety games to injury this season they have 464 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: played They played without Frank Kepnan yesterday, so they have 465 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: had two players on their entire roster available for every 466 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: game this season, Kamari Peterson and Zoom Diallo. 467 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: Those are the only. 468 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Two players that have played every single game this season. 469 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: And if you look at this year, you would see 470 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: the record overall and you'd be like, Okay, who cares 471 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: like they're not even close to good enough to go 472 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: to the NCAA turn even if they had everybody healthy. 473 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, let me also present these facts to you. 474 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: How would this season be different if they could close 475 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: out just a couple of close Big Ten games. They 476 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: are zero to four in conference games decided by four 477 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: or less. If two go the other way, they have 478 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: almost the exact resume as Indiana, and right now, Indiana 479 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: sits squarely in the bubble forty in the net ranking 480 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: and bracketology estimates. Indiana's got a sixty percent chance to 481 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: make the NCAA tournament. It's even if you take if 482 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: you flip the two UCLA games because UCLA is a 483 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: good team, an NCAA tournament team. And here's what happened 484 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: in the two UCLA games. The first game against UCLA 485 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: was very very beginning of the season. Husky's had a 486 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: great comeback at all the momentum at the end of 487 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: the game and zoom Diallo missed a three at the 488 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: buzzer that would have won the game. There's one that's 489 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: a buzzer beater three that zoom Diallo had at the 490 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: at the horn that was missed. 491 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: The other game against UCLA, which was much more recently. 492 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: They led the almost the entire first thirty minutes of 493 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: the game, controlled the game, gave it up and lost 494 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: by four. Having said all that, even though they're zero 495 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: to four in all those games, even though they didn't 496 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: win all those games, they are forty eighth in KEMPALM. 497 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Last year there were one to four. The last time 498 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: this team was four forty eighth was. 499 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: Two thy nineteen, which is the last time they made 500 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the NCAA Tournament, and they were a nine seed at 501 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: forty eighth in KEMPOM in twenty nineteen. The last time 502 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Jackson they finished higher than forty eighth, which is where 503 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: they are right now, and they have a fairly doable 504 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: schedule for the rest of the season, so they get 505 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: very well finish higher than forty eight. The last time 506 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: they finished higher than forty eighth than KEMPOM was fifteen 507 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: years ago. Jeez, this is the best Husky season, arguably 508 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: in fifteen years now. That's not saying a ton because 509 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of really bad seasons through that. 510 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: But what we are missing here by not watching and 511 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: not listening to Husky basketball this season, we are missing 512 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity to see a top two or three player 513 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: in Husky basketball this century in Hanna Seimack, at least 514 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years. I mean, Brandon Roy's number one. 515 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: You can make an argument that Hanna Steinbacher is number two. 516 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: All right, So let's let's take your facts there, and okay, 517 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: let's approach it two different ways, all right. Let me 518 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: first approach it by mister, I don't want to hear 519 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 4: about facts. 520 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: I just want to run with my opinions, okay. 521 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: And like to be fair, I think that there's a 522 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: lot of Husky basketball fans and a lot of Seattle 523 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: sports fans who may have that take, and I don't. Frankly, 524 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: because of the last fifteen years, Dick, I ain't gonna 525 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: be mad at them at all for having that turn. 526 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: They are sure fully entitled. 527 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have five NCAA tournaments in a row and 528 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: had this type of injury season. 529 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: Never be like, oh hey, just a throwaway season. 530 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: So let me first take that personality, and they're probably 531 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: saying themselves, Okay, ninety games missed. That does seem like 532 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 4: a lot. But I wonder how that compares to other teams. 533 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: We had Mike Decorsi on Monday. He was talking about 534 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 4: how for all West Coast teams, it's the injury bug 535 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: is hitting the West Coast teams in the Big ten, 536 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: So it's a it's a definitely a larger problem. The 537 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 4: other thought is this is not the second year where 538 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: Danny Sprinkle's gonna miss the turn, and are we really 539 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: sure that's the right guy in charge? When yes, we 540 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: see what he did at the other levels, but he 541 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: just hasn't proved to be a winner at the Big tenel. 542 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: I think there's there's probably a few other you know, 543 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: cherry picking arguments, you know, trying to pick you know, 544 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 4: I need a lot of a haystack and find the 545 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 4: arguments against, and I think that's fair. 546 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: The other side of it. 547 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: Is kind of going in line with where you're kind 548 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: of stepping in right here, which is that this guy 549 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Sprinkle arrived mid cycle last year, before last season and 550 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: had to revamp a pretty much torn down program. 551 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: Oh he had to scramble. Yeah, total scrambled. 552 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: So last year he throwed out the window. Absolutely. 553 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 4: This is the first year he's had his team together 554 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 4: the way he wants it to be built, and it's 555 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: been completely blown to bits by these injuries. Everything he 556 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: had planned has gone out the window. So I guess 557 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: for me, as somewhere kind of in between, I'm saying 558 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: to myself, okay, A, I hate blaming injuries because as 559 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: a as a Sounder broadcaster and as a Sounder fan, 560 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 4: I've been blaming injuries for years and I get so 561 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: tired of blaming your jies. 562 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: But the realities that do happen. 563 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: I want to see a can Danny Sprinkle have a 564 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 4: team like he assembled his guys stay healthy and then 565 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 4: let me see if he can do it. But if 566 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 4: next season, if we continue to have injuries here there, 567 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: maybe it's not as bad as this year, but we 568 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 4: still aren't a tournament team. Then it's only fair to 569 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: ask the questions if he's the right guy. But when 570 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 4: you when you throw out the Ken Pump stat like 571 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: he clearly he's doing something right. Yeah, because there's the 572 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: makings of a good unit is there, but it does 573 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 4: take time and it does take health for it to 574 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: call come together. 575 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: No, I think that's totally fair, and I think we can. 576 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: We can go into next season saying, hey, you had 577 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: a year where you where you totally revamped the roster. 578 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: Then you had a year where you were just ravaged 579 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: by injury. Okay, we can't have an excuse in twenty 580 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: twenty sixteens. 581 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: Like you just you just can't. 582 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: So, and you're gonna have a lot of these guys back, 583 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: so you don't even have a new rossness. You're still right, 584 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: you said for your star, but you don't. You'll have 585 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys back. So I think I 586 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: think everything you say is fair. But I think it's 587 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: gonna watch the last few games, make your own interpretations. 588 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: Watch Debt Left Shrimp get honored this weekend, this Saturday, 589 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: we're in and we're endeavoring to get Debt Left on tomorrow. 590 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: We're just trying to get to get a time. 591 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: We'll get Debt Left's take on what we just mentioned, 592 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: and also his take on Hanna Steinbach the two greatest 593 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: German Huskies, two of the three greatest German Huskies of 594 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: all time, right Vel Shrimp and Hanna Steinbacher. And well, 595 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Debt Left tomorrow phone with audio coming 596 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: up next. 597 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 8: It's now time for Sufday and Dick's fun with audio. 598 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 8: Jimmy g poll Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. 599 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: Now let's have some fun with audio. 600 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: Let's do that. 601 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: Let's have some fun with audio. 602 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: Four thirty Kracking Today pregame showed Mike Benton five o'clock 603 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: face off as the cracking starts. I mean it's not 604 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: really the second half of the season, but the post 605 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Olympic break, the stretch run of the season. Hey Jackson, 606 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: did you hear that? Sid Dick Former NBA coach stan 607 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Van Gunny. I love Stan Van Gunny. We've had him 608 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: on numerous times. Very very funny. Guy joined Fan Duels 609 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Run It Back show with Chandler Parsons yesterday and talked 610 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: about coaching Dwight Howard in Orlando for five years. 611 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 10: My last question during that time in that team, I 612 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 10: got an inside source, and I need you to confirm 613 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 10: this if it's sure. 614 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: I said. 615 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 10: You used to get pissed at Dwight Howard during her 616 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 10: pregame speeches because he would just constantly fart while you're 617 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 10: trying to get the guys going confirm or denying. 618 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 11: Coach, you know, I would confirm actual. 619 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: I knew if was Dwight. 620 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: I knew it was true, disgusting and awesome. 621 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 11: White could goofer real and have fun. And I remember 622 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 11: having a talk with him once and I said, Dwight, 623 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 11: I need you to be more serious, you know, when 624 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 11: we're preparing And he said, Stan, I've got it all. 625 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 11: I know what you're saying. 626 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 6: I said, and he did. 627 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 11: Dwight's did by far the smartest big guy I've ever coached, 628 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 11: I mean, and it was part of his greatness. And 629 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 11: I said, no, no, I know you've got it, but 630 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 11: then you're distracting these other guys. 631 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 12: Did more on. 632 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 11: What's going on, and Dwight understood that things started to change. 633 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 11: But you know, he was just a fun loving guy. 634 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: Been in that situation before. 635 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: Jackson, Uh not as a youth coach, but a number 636 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: of times as a high school coach, including one maybe 637 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: just a month. 638 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Ago, where breakdown nothin. 639 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: Classic high schoolers. 640 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: Yes, hard to interrupt me. Not before the game, not 641 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: even game day. It's never happened to me before, during, 642 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: or after a game. 643 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: But in practice, practice is over here, come on around, 644 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: all right, good practice today, there's what we did. Blah 645 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: blah blah, here we go and you just get a 646 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: and then of course it's just the everyone's lost like that, 647 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: it's giggles, it's look around, who did that? 648 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: And it's just like. 649 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: I'd also say, like stay Van Gundy is inherently a 650 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: funny human being. He's funny and like he probably brings 651 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: that a little bit on him selly like the locker 652 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: it's clearly he probably develops fun, energetic, laughable locker rooms. 653 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: So Dwight Howard, well done, sir. There are certain coaches 654 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: you would not want to release a flatulence in front. 655 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: Hop is probably number one. Probably not way Bob Knight. Bob, 656 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's definite Mike Krzyzewski probably don't want it. Yeah, 657 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot damn man getting you very 658 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: low down on those lists, as evidently as Dick Famee 659 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: very low down that list on the all right, Jackson, 660 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: Hey Jackson, did you hear that? 661 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 12: Last night? 662 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: In college basketball? Todd rag Duke was leading No. 663 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Ninety six to fifty five with three minutes left to 664 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: go in the game. Kevin Brown and Corey Alexander at 665 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: the call for ESPN and shared some information on the 666 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: historic nature of the blowout. 667 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 13: Notre Dame down forty four at home. This is on 668 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 13: track not the micro. Shrewsbury wants to see this to 669 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 13: be Notre Dame's largest home loss since the fourth game 670 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 13: in Notre Dame men's basketball history against the Chicago First Regiment. 671 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: Sixty four to eight. What's the final score? 672 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: Why are you getting so excited? 673 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 6: Twenty nine eighty ninety eight. 674 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: Why are you getting so excited? 675 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: This Chicago First Regiment? 676 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: Apparently they had some hoopers on that squad eighteen ninety eight, 677 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: eighteen ninety. 678 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: Eight, Jackson, anytime Notre Dame can get clowned in any 679 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: sport is a good addition. Generally agree with that absolutely, 680 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: And to add injury to insult, they mentioned coach Shrewsbury 681 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: there of Notre Dame. He hurt his achilles during the game, 682 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: and so we had to have us he had to 683 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: have a walking boot on for the second half of 684 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: the games. I mean, not only does he get his 685 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: ass kicked by almost fifty, he might have a torn achilles. 686 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: That's a bad day for Notre Dame, and that's a 687 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: good day for the rest of us that don't like 688 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Hey, Jackson, do you hear that? 689 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 6: Oh? 690 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: We gotta go? 691 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: Oh we got it. Oh yeah, we do, we gotta go. 692 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: We got We got Petros waiting in the bullpen. 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And I 718 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 12: said to my myself, Wow, that's going to be a 719 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 12: real nutcutter. And then I went back to street. And 720 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 12: then I woke up and I watched You know, YouTube 721 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 12: is just amazing the way they put the highlights together, 722 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 12: and it really really saves time and emotional effort. So 723 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 12: I watched it on YouTube and I was able to 724 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 12: absorb it and discuss it with some efficiency on the air, 725 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 12: though I'm not a hockey expert, and that was that, 726 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 12: but it was great. It was a great moment and 727 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 12: all that and a lot of fun for everybody. And 728 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 12: I think easy to root for those guys, no doubt 729 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 12: about it. And it's kind of interesting to watch guys 730 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 12: get their teeth knocked out for their country and then 731 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 12: just go right back and play in the NHL. And 732 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 12: the flip side of that is the NBA and the 733 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 12: load management era and a guy at Kansas who doesn't 734 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 12: want to play letting himself out of the first in 735 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 12: the draft. You kind of juxtapose those two things. But 736 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 12: I think it goes down to something that you know 737 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 12: well covering the sport and I only know peripherally. I mean, 738 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 12: the Kings have won I think it's three championships, three 739 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 12: Stanley Cups since I have been doing media in LA. 740 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 12: And before that, there was that heartbreaking loss against Gosh, 741 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 12: the Canadians with Wayne Gretzky and Marty mcsorley's stick got 742 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 12: they got a penalty because the stick was bent to 743 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 12: my you know, some big controversy that people talk about 744 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 12: to this day, or they did in LA. And just 745 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 12: like you guys used to with the Seahawks before they 746 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 12: won their first title, right, we were so close in 747 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 12: whatever year if it wasn't for that holding penalty against 748 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 12: the Steelers and now, and that's true, that holding penalty 749 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 12: was on my best friend who's passed away since. But 750 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 12: the the linebacker for the Steeler that was rushing on 751 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 12: that play. But it's kind of interesting because those terrible memories, 752 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 12: you know, Bill Buckner, a lot of that stuff just 753 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 12: kind of fades away into memory because these teams end 754 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 12: up winning championships. But I do remember that being the 755 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 12: thing in La Forever was, oh my god, if that 756 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 12: one thing didn't happen, and then they won. It feels 757 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 12: like an abundance of titles since then. And it's not 758 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 12: that important. But dealing with hockey people and covering the 759 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 12: sport of hockey is a totally different animal from the other. 760 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 12: I guess you would say Big three or popular sport. 761 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 12: I mean everybody, Well, I would say that everybody's got 762 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 12: their nuances, right, Baseball players and a lot of things 763 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 12: have kind of evened out because they're all kids and 764 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 12: they're all on the Internet and stuff like that. Like 765 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 12: some of the nuances of our youth, Like the fact 766 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 12: that all the baseball players, no matter who they were, 767 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 12: where they were from, they were all indoctrinated into daytime television. 768 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 12: That used to be a thing for like thirty years. 769 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 6: Right. 770 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 12: Like if you ran up on John Olerud and asked 771 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 12: him about days of our lives, he'd probably go off 772 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 12: because that was like something that they were. 773 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: Hit in the clubhouse before the game. 774 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 12: That's yeah, well there we're sitting around all day in 775 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 12: town playing minor league baseball. 776 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 9: You know. 777 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 12: Now the Internet and video games and all those different 778 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 12: things they kind of even things up. Football players were 779 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 12: always a certain kind of way. I mean, it's much 780 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 12: more of a black culture. So you're doing things that 781 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 12: are popular like that. Like you know, there's not a 782 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 12: lot of baseball teams that would gather around a guy 783 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 12: with a ghetto blaster while he danced, But we did 784 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 12: that all the time by some guy from Saint Louis 785 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 12: on our team just dance around. That's how bored we were. 786 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 12: I mean, we didn't have the internet, you know what 787 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 12: I mean. So anyway, what I'm saying is with all 788 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 12: these different sports, talking to these people is one thing. 789 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 12: Hockey people are by far by far the best people 790 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 12: to deal with in sports. They're the most honest, They 791 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 12: answer the questions the most I think thoughtfully, and I 792 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 12: believe it's because of their junior's programs and the stuff 793 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 12: like that. Most of them. If you're a great hockey player, 794 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 12: if you're thirteen years old, you're gone right from your parents' house. 795 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: You become an adult very quickly. 796 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, you're living in somebody else's house and it's yes, sir, 797 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 12: yes ma'am. And there's a little bit of that in 798 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 12: baseball with the summer would bat leagues and stuff, but 799 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 12: not in the same regard. So what I'm saying is 800 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 12: hockey people, even though I don't understand the sport well 801 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 12: and don't cover it closely, are always the easiest to 802 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 12: root for. And Canadians used to be really easy to 803 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 12: root for. But they seem kind of bitter in this loss. 804 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: But whatever, Oh well, and there's a bit of you know, 805 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a bit sad on the hockey side 806 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: of things, not on the baseball side of things. That 807 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 1: they also lost the World Series by literally one half 808 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: of an inch. They had those two you know, I've 809 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: seen those those two photos juxtaposed in the same tweet 810 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: with the play at the plate and then also the 811 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: wide open back of the net for Canada that they 812 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: didn't end up end up getting and it could have 813 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: been much much different. 814 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: Baseball's is different because he's it's the US of sports. 815 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 6: You know what. 816 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 12: We were just talking about it. You're right, it's their sport, and. 817 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: We beat him at their sport. 818 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: It's like our fifth sport man and and they he 819 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: couldn't beat us at their best sport. 820 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 2: And it just brings a nation man. 821 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 12: Like they dominated the game particulars of the game, but 822 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 12: the part where you win or lose, they didn't obviously, 823 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 12: and that makes people more better if you think dick 824 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 12: of Canada as America's hat. Okay, think of these things 825 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 12: that have happened, the hockey thing, the baseball thing. It's 826 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 12: like one of those scenes in the movie where Cowboy 827 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 12: gets his hat shut off and looks all surprised, like, whoa, 828 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 12: that's that's what's happened to Canada. In fact, we were 829 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 12: just talking about it. One of the Dodger that one 830 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 12: of the guys that travels with the Dodgers radio crew 831 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 12: is here today and he was there in Canada when 832 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 12: they lost Game seven, and we had a guy on 833 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 12: the MLB network. Guy, he's a tall guy, Amsinger. I 834 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 12: remember that guy he's on. He was there. He described this. Yeah, 835 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 12: Greg Amsing, it's a pretty good interview. We had him 836 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 12: on and he described this to us as well, and 837 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 12: they said, like, you cannot imagine the horror in that 838 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 12: stadium when the Dodgers won, Like it was so quiet, 839 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 12: it was like the country just got punched in the gut. 840 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 12: You could hear the Dodgers screaming and yelling in ecstasy 841 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 12: almost completely clearly on the pictures mound and celebrating the 842 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 12: World Series. And you could hear grown men like weeping 843 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 12: babies crying in the stand Like you could really feel 844 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 12: that absolute dejection in that moment. And I can't imagine 845 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 12: this is any better with the women the men, as 846 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 12: you said. And then of course, uh the World Series, 847 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 12: which you guys, I think took some pride in. 848 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: Oh, we were drinking the tears. 849 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: We were drinking the Blue Jay fans tears after that game. 850 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,479 Speaker 1: And I cannot think of a World Series that more. 851 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Mariner fans were so one sided on. We were all 852 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: Dodger blue because we've found out we kind of already 853 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: knew that Blue Jay fans were d bags. We've found 854 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: out over the two weeks prior to the World Series 855 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: how big of d bags blue Jay fans were. 856 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 12: Yeah, I and that surprised me a little bit too, 857 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 12: because you know, you listen to the Blue Jay song 858 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 12: and it's so nice. 859 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 6: You ever heard that song? 860 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: I have Blue Jay, Let's play ball? 861 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 12: And you know, you think the Canadians is very benign people, 862 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 12: but apparently not the case when it comes to sports. 863 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. 864 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 12: It was a fun It was a fun, unifying moment, 865 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 12: I suppose at a time of trouble, in. 866 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: A time of truel And speaking of time and trouble, 867 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how how where you stand on talking 868 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: politics on your air when it intersects with sports, But 869 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: certainly politics and sports have intersected this week without question, 870 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: with the criticism of the team that the team took 871 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: for you know, agreeing to go to the State of 872 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: the Union address and the convert you know, laughing at 873 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the in the locker room. Where did 874 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: you have you addressed that on the air And where 875 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: do you stand with all that criticiz? 876 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: I don't care. 877 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 12: I mean the Dodgers go to the White House and 878 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 12: somebody from the La Times always writes an article and 879 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 12: tries to shame them. And you know, the media is 880 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 12: a certain kind of way, so if it goes the 881 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 12: other way around, it doesn't have as much. But I 882 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 12: do think it's a I think it's trying to I 883 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 12: think it's trying really hard to insert whatever public narrative 884 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 12: that everybody has to deal with in their daily lives 885 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 12: when you go run around and ask people at the 886 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 12: Olympics or at tennis tournaments or wherever. Of course, if 887 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 12: the US team wins, the President's going to get involved. 888 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 12: He was involved in the last thing he's involved in sports, 889 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 12: And I think it's something that people have an opportunity 890 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 12: to insert something in and get people to react to 891 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 12: it and act one way or another. I don't think 892 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 12: it's a big deal whoever is in power as far 893 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 12: as the presidency, that people go to the White House 894 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 12: and have that experience or talk to the president on 895 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 12: the phone or even act like, you know, he's not 896 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 12: a hitler, so that's good. I don't think it's that 897 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 12: big of a deal. But people that I love and respect, 898 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 12: you know, write those articles and get all hufffled and 899 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 12: hufflepuffed about it like the Harry Potter Place, and I 900 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 12: think it's a sad place to put our energy. I mean, 901 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 12: we work in the toy department as the sports people, right, 902 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 12: and if you want to talk about that stuff, there's 903 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 12: plenty of outlets to do it and get people to 904 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 12: be mad at you or happy with you. But I mean, 905 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 12: I think one of the things about the shows that 906 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 12: we do, or the least that I try to do, 907 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 12: is to keep people from really noticing what way I 908 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 12: lean in that regard. It's not about that at all. 909 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 12: It's about a break from that and just trying to 910 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 12: enjoy whatever our commonality is as people in a town 911 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 12: that enjoy the sports. And I do think that. I mean, 912 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 12: I understand there's always going to be some element of it, 913 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 12: and there always has been, right long before I was born. 914 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 12: You think about Jesse Owens, and I mean that was 915 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 12: political and that's something that nobody looked down on in 916 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 12: America at the time. 917 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 2: Right at. 918 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: Four Olympics, politics is always interjected and. 919 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 12: No one's mentioned like, hey, Russia was pretty good in hockey, 920 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 12: where were they for this? You know, we're acting like 921 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 12: they just don't even exist, you know, So there's always 922 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 12: some there's always something going on. But I do think 923 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 12: in this, in this particular regard, it's it's a it's 924 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 12: it's shoehorned in. 925 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: You may have already answered this question at the beginning 926 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: when you said you went back to sleep after seeing 927 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,479 Speaker 1: that the game was tied. 928 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: But I mean, are you as invested? 929 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 12: I mean I checked on the phone, gotcha, like you know, 930 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 12: to see the score, like you know, on a website, 931 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 12: not even like you know, turning the game on. 932 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: Are you as invested in the Olympics in general as 933 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: you used to be? 934 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 2: Or did you were? You never? 935 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 12: You know? I think it just depends. 936 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 6: Uh. 937 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 12: There's some Olympics that I've gotten really into and really enjoyed. 938 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 12: The one with Bob Costas and Pink Eye. I I 939 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 12: couldn't tear myself away. I just couldn't, you know. I 940 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 12: mean the stories intrigue you, right, I mean, the Olympics 941 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 12: are just like any football game every once in a while. 942 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 12: I mean the other day I was just sitting around 943 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 12: and I turned on a women's basketball game and it 944 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 12: was that big the big wide girl, Audie Crooks. Crooks 945 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 12: at Iowa State and then these long girls with glitter 946 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 12: in their hair from TCU and they're going back and forth, 947 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 12: and you know, it was a crazy and I was like, 948 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 12: I was into it, you know. I mean, I don't 949 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 12: have a dog and any I've been to ames, you know, 950 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 12: I've done a lot of horn frog games, but you 951 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 12: know what I mean. So so it's kind of like 952 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 12: that for me. If there's something that interests me about 953 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 12: and I'll watch it. And sometimes the Olympics happen and 954 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 12: there's things happening in sports in the town and they're 955 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 12: just kind of peripheral thing and you say, oh, yeah, 956 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 12: they ran out of condoms, and you use a story 957 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 12: like that, you know, without really watching. I mean, we 958 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 12: got the Summer Olympics coming here, and we're going to 959 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 12: show our ass to the whole world. 960 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, is it going to be a nice, cleaned 961 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: up ass. Oh, it's going to be dirty. 962 00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 2: Yes, Why did you clean it up? 963 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: Me? 964 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 5: Yeah? 965 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 2: You go down the skin row. Tell me what the. 966 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 12: Dude, we have three towers right like they were showing 967 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 12: the pat Riley thing the other day. 968 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're like. 969 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 12: Hey, look at all these statues you got over here. 970 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 12: There's magic, there's Kobe, there's you know, chick hern at 971 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 12: the desk and blah blahah bee and you look at 972 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 12: it and it's like, oh my god, there are those 973 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 12: three zombie towers in the background that are covered in 974 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 12: graffiti that are filled what's right, the most vile hive 975 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 12: of murderers and psychos and deprivation. 976 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 2: Like, my god, what's going on in there? 977 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, right across the street, and it's like the shadow 978 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 12: of one of the of one of the venues, one 979 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 12: of the crypto Staples Center, whatever you would call it. 980 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 12: I mean, we're a we're in a tough way. We're 981 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 12: gonna have the World Cup here too, and there's gonna 982 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 12: be World Cup games. It's so far. And they'll do 983 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 12: what they did in Inglewood, like when the Super Bowl 984 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 12: was here. They'll clean it all up and move everything. 985 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: Well, you got the super Bowl again next year too. Yeah, 986 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you got all sorts of stuff in the 987 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 1: next three years. 988 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 2: In your time. 989 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 12: LA can kind of absorb these things, yes, in a 990 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 12: way like a punch. But the Olympics are not that way. 991 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 12: I think I think the first week of the Olympics 992 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 12: when they were here in eighty four, obviously it's a 993 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 12: different town. But when they were here in eighty four, 994 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 12: I remember the first week being like no one was 995 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 12: on the roads because everybody was so scared of traffic, right, 996 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 12: And then the second week it was like karmagan, which 997 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 12: is what they call. 998 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 2: It, like, oh, this isn't bad, let me go back 999 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 2: to work again. You know, I saw Petross Moapaeggs joining us. 1000 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: I saw this story about Alyssa Loo, the skater, and 1001 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: how much, yes, and how much money her dad spent 1002 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 1: on her kate skating career. 1003 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: Did you did you see that? 1004 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 1: The number he says he estimates upwards to a million 1005 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: dollars he is spent on his daughter's skating career. It 1006 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: does try and it's just I mean, it's just stunning 1007 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: to but I mean, I don't know how much do 1008 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: you know you spend on your kids youth sports? 1009 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 2: But it can get I got very very expensive. 1010 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 12: One word for you, dick less less Yes, well, yes, 1011 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 12: less than a million. 1012 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: I can guarantee I've spent less than a million as well. 1013 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 12: But well, there are some sports you know that one 1014 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 12: is in particular. You know, hockey is very expensive too 1015 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 12: because of the ice part and the and the traveling 1016 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 12: around to other places that will play you in places 1017 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 12: like southern California where there's no ice outside kind of thing. 1018 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 12: But there's some sports like white boys sports like like 1019 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 12: Little League Baseball. Yes, travel, Yeah, that dads can really 1020 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 12: have the opportunity to throw money at it. Like, there's 1021 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 12: plenty of people that will help you burn your money 1022 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 12: for bats, for hitting lessons, for you know, hitting clinics, 1023 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 12: for Hinner's house, you know, batting place at the mall, 1024 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 12: to you all all the different things, the sliding gloves, 1025 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 12: the the bruce bolt gloves and all the different stuff, 1026 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 12: you know. I mean, they find a way to really 1027 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 12: suck you dry. It's like going to Disneyland, except it's 1028 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 12: not as entertaining. So there's a I mean, I enjoy 1029 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 12: watching the kids compete, but as far as you sports go, 1030 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,879 Speaker 12: it's it's a great way to burn out your kid 1031 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 12: by the time they're thirteen. 1032 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question. 1033 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 2: That's why it was great though. 1034 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: When we when we talked to Bo Jackson bow Nos 1035 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 1: at the at the Super Bowl, I mean he talked 1036 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: about He's spent a good four or five minutes talking 1037 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 1: about how important it was to not specialize your kid 1038 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: in a sport. I mean, we were here, we are 1039 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: talking to the great, in my opinion, the greatest athlete 1040 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: of my lifetime. And he's like, are you kidding me? 1041 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: Like you you cannot do that. You have to just 1042 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: allow you have to allow your child to play whatever 1043 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: they want to play and allow them to develop skills 1044 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: in a multitude of sports. It's only going to enhance 1045 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: whatever sport they end up wanting to play. 1046 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 2: Down the road. 1047 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 12: Some of the best people, I mean, I always think 1048 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 12: about Andrew Luck who was a soccer player, grown up 1049 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 12: in Europe part of the time because his dad was 1050 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 12: out there Oliver with NFL Europe. I think about Sam 1051 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 12: Darnold was not just a basketball player, but he was 1052 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 12: the league MVP two years in a row at San 1053 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 12: Clementy High School playing basketball and every quarterback. A lot 1054 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 12: of them that I played with, Mike Van Rapphors, Carson Palmer, 1055 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 12: they were they were all basketball starters. Even Mark Sanchez 1056 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 12: was a starter on the basketball team. And I think 1057 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 12: we've gotten I mean, baseball is its own thing, but 1058 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 12: I think we've gotten a little bit away, hopefully from 1059 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 12: discouraging kids from playing more than once. 1060 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 2: Benchelam swinging back a little bit. 1061 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 3: I've gud the last one. 1062 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,479 Speaker 12: I think it is because because we see that being 1063 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 12: more well rounded is a better thing not only for 1064 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 12: your body, but probably for your staying power. If you're 1065 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 12: going to playing for you know, into your twenties, if 1066 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 12: you're kind to do something into your twenties, you know, 1067 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 12: doing it when you're ten years old without any kind 1068 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 12: of respite, Which is what these a lot of these 1069 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 12: people are asking is I don't think is very feasible. Well, 1070 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 12: a lot of these kids, how we create a twenty 1071 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 12: three year old failure? 1072 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 3: That's right. 1073 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: And a lot of these kids, if they play one 1074 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: sport and they're just so serious and a lot of 1075 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: them attach their identity to that sport, So if they 1076 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: happen to fail in that sport, even for a short 1077 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: period of time, they think they're a failure as a person. 1078 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 1: Where if you have lots of different interest and lots 1079 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: of different skill sets, I mean, I will go back 1080 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: to a list of Loomis. 1081 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 2: She's a perfect example. 1082 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you saw her gold medal 1083 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: winning performance, but she just skated with joy and free 1084 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: and they told the story before the her performance was 1085 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 1: she quit? I mean, she just flat out quit skating 1086 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: for like eighteen months and said, I've had enough. 1087 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore. 1088 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: And she went off with her friends and she traveled 1089 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: and she did this, and she got She went to 1090 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 1: a ski trip with her buddies and she had such 1091 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 1: a great time skiing. 1092 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 2: She was like, you know what, I want to kind 1093 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 2: of try this again. But she didn't. 1094 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: Ident She no longer identified herself just as a skater. 1095 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: So when she got back to skating, she was like, 1096 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: you know what if I fail, I fail, I know 1097 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: I have a great life outside of skating now. And 1098 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that lifted her 1099 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: up to that gold medal because she wasn't. 1100 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 2: She wasn't as nervous as all the other people were. 1101 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 12: Try taking eighteen months in football, you come back, get 1102 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 12: your head punched, clean up. 1103 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 2: That's right, there's no question about that. 1104 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm not frolicking around the ice. Oh my god. 1105 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 2: Well, Petros's it's always a pleasure. 1106 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 6: You're the best, dick. 1107 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 12: It's always great to come. 1108 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you. Speaking of ice, we 1109 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: we got the resumption of cracking hockey. You know, we're 1110 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: fighting for the Stanley Cup. Playoffs here in Seattle for 1111 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 1: the first time. 1112 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 12: And if you heard about that, so I thought you 1113 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 12: were like going to ask me another political question here. 1114 00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 12: Speaking of ice, Yeah, you're the best brother. 1115 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk to your kids. Sounds good. 1116 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: Petro's poppadakas And yes, speaking of ice, the one you 1117 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: skate on. 1118 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 2: The Cracking go for their seventh win in the last nine. 1119 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: If it all goes right in the Western Conference to 1120 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: night around them, they can find themselves in the fifth 1121 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: seed in the playoff race. 1122 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 2: When we start the show tomorrow. We'll talk to you tomorrow. 1123 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 2: Crack in Dallas,