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Speaker 1: Now Sor Presents, no Mark si Own show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Monday already. All right, We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to. We'll go over the oscars, we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that. We'll get to obviously Iran, We'll get to

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Speaker 2: crazy Mom Donnie and what he's up to. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to some more Epstein revelations coming up. Some of the

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Speaker 2: last people you'd think would get implicated in the Epstein

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Speaker 2: stuff are. We'll get to the TSA, the shutdown, and

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Speaker 2: a whole lot more Iran, inside intel from people. War

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Speaker 2: three more weeks, about three more weeks of the war.

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Speaker 2: Straits of horn Moose could be opened by the weekend, possibly,

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Speaker 2: but war about three more weeks.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear this false narrative everywhere if you watch

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Speaker 2: the fake news, that there was no planning. There's no

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Speaker 2: detailed planning on every step of the way. There's detailed planning,

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Speaker 2: contingency plans, contingency plans for the contingency. They've got this

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Speaker 2: all figured out now. Of course, as they say, when

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Speaker 2: you go into where anything can happen and your plans change.

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Speaker 2: But give it about three more weeks gas prices it

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Speaker 2: will spike during this They could hit five dollars a gallon,

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Speaker 2: which media the Democrats are outraged about. Of course, it

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Speaker 2: was five dollars a gallon the whole Biden administration. They

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Speaker 2: never said a word. But instead of four years of

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Speaker 2: Biden gas prices, you're going to get about four weeks

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Speaker 2: up the gas prices. And by the way, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: affect the US as much because we don't really buy

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Speaker 2: that gas. The gas coming out of Iran usually goes

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Speaker 2: to India, China and other countries. We got enough gas

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Speaker 2: to supply ourselves for the next hundred years here in

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Speaker 2: this country. They've lifted sanctions on Russian oil for a month.

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Speaker 2: That way the market will get flooded with more Russian oil.

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Speaker 2: The fact that they lifted the sanctions on Russia for

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Speaker 2: a month indicates that maybe Russia is helping us with

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Speaker 2: some things in Iran. Putin and Trump have been talking,

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Speaker 2: so that gesture from Trump might be in exchange for

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Speaker 2: whatever help Putin has offered. Russian oil, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is dirty, very hard to refine. It's the last oil

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Speaker 2: you want to use, so we don't use it, but

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Speaker 2: it's oil that China and other countries will use. The

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Speaker 2: visit to China, by the way, Trump, President Trump scheduled

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Speaker 2: that's probably going to get postponed. It wouldn't make sense

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Speaker 2: to visit at a time like this, and security wise

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Speaker 2: a nightmare trying to protect the president and all of this.

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Speaker 2: You don't really know where China stands on this whole

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Speaker 2: Iran mess. The Iatola son Iotola Junior, supposedly the new leader.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has seen him. He was blown up in one

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Speaker 2: of those bombing attacks, lost a leg, has been in

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Speaker 2: a coma, facial damage. So you know, when you talk

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Speaker 2: about the cost of the war. By the way, we

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Speaker 2: got the number the cost of the war so far,

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Speaker 2: twelve billion dollars. Twelve billion dollars is the cost so far.

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Speaker 2: And that's a little less than a billion dollars a day.

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Speaker 2: It's expensive, but worth it for what you'll get out

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Speaker 2: of this. You're totally disarming a rand, which is by

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Speaker 2: the way, the first objective. Take away all the threats,

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Speaker 2: That's been accomplished. So it cost us twelve billion. But

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Speaker 2: look at the Iatola cost him an arm and a leg.

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Speaker 2: But now the other thing about the Ayatola, the sun

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Speaker 2: Is intelligence supports are that he's gay. President Trump laughed

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Speaker 2: out loud when he heard this, because the Iyahtola himself

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Speaker 2: leaved in death for gay people. Sodomy is illegal and

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Speaker 2: a capital offence in Iran. Being gay is illegal in Iran,

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Speaker 2: being gay. And so it's a strange situation over there.

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Speaker 2: Iran lashing out. This is their last gasp. They've bombed

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Speaker 2: hit the Dubai airport with a drone, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that were happened to be in Dubai tourist business whatever,

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Speaker 2: Drones are a problem, but bit by bit they'll get

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Speaker 2: them all. There is a marine expeditionary force that's going there,

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Speaker 2: twenty five hundred marines. Now, what this will be used

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Speaker 2: when they do this, they can see where it came from.

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Speaker 2: The strike force will quickly go ashore, take it out

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Speaker 2: of all, if you could even move the tankers, you

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Speaker 2: could have naval escorts, and that's been done in the past.

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Speaker 2: The insurance companies are holding this up. It's basically Lloyd's

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Speaker 2: But more than that, each tanker has a crew of

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Speaker 2: It's not so much the oil or the tanker. That's

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Speaker 2: the loss of life. That's where insurance companies have real problems,

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Speaker 2: it just blow up and kill everybody. So that's that's

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Speaker 2: the problem. But expect the straits of horn Moovese to

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Speaker 2: be open within days, not weeks. It's been closed before

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Speaker 2: every war. Every war we get into in that region,

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Speaker 2: straits of horn Moose gets closed, it gets mined. Remember

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Speaker 2: the tanker wars was closed for a while, So it's

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Speaker 2: happened before. It'll happen again. The Epstein files, we'll get

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Speaker 2: to that coming up. Some really amazing names coming out

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Speaker 2: of there. He speaking of the Iran War, the best

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Speaker 2: poster in the world, John McLaughlin. Do people support this

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Speaker 2: war in Iran? Yes, almost sixty percent fifty eight percent.

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Speaker 2: say that we must finish the job, so the public

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Speaker 2: is behind it. Oscar's last night, Well, Conan O'Brien, everybody

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Speaker 2: thought he did a great job. They don't make an

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Speaker 2: most legendary, biggest comedian on earth. It was Bob Hope

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Speaker 2: And you don't have people like that anymore. You got,

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Speaker 2: a while. And he's geeky and gawky, but he has

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Speaker 4: I'm honored to be the last human host of the

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Speaker 4: Academy Award. Yeah yeah, next year it's going to be

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Speaker 2: A toughs not bad so. And he's got a charm

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Speaker 2: He's not there to entertain you. He's not there to

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Speaker 2: CBS News. There was a presenter or two that yelled

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Speaker 2: look like idiots and they do that Barbara streisand that

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Speaker 2: I don't watch the Red carpet. I don't know any

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Speaker 2: don't know any of it. Well, for people under forty

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Speaker 2: when Streisand comes out, let's say, people under thirty five,

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Speaker 2: when Streisand comes out, they don't know who this is.

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Speaker 2: They have no idea who this is. And she's talking

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Speaker 2: and apparently Jane Fonda was very upset, very upset that

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Speaker 2: Streisand did the tribute to Robert Redford and said to

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Speaker 2: Rob Reiner. He had some big memoriams this year. Billy

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Speaker 3: Who had the privilege of working with and knowing him

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Speaker 4: All we can say is, buddy, what fun we had

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Speaker 4: storming the Castle?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some good moments. It was about a three hour show,

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Speaker 2: be like in There were times where eight hundred million

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Speaker 2: It's going to come in at like eight nine million.

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Speaker 2: And it's not what it used to be. And people

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Speaker 2: They watch Netflix, and I don't blame them. Why should

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Speaker 2: you go to a theater and you can watch a

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Speaker 2: Four choices? Go on Netflix, what's playing forty thousand choices?

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Speaker 2: And you can watch them the comfort of your own home.

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Speaker 2: The chairman of Netflix was there in the Oscars. Conan

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Speaker 2: O'Brien looked at him.

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Speaker 4: Netflix CEO Ted Sorrandos is here and this is exciting.

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Speaker 4: It's his first time in a theater.

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Speaker 5: This is what they're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Why are they altogether and joining them? Felts At be

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Speaker 2: Well, I can mortify that, all right, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. More Conan.

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Speaker 4: It's the first time since twenty twelve, first time since

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Speaker 4: twenty twelve that there are no British actors nominated for

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Speaker 4: Best Actor or Best Actress. Yeah, British spokesperson said, yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: at least we arrest our pedophiles.

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Speaker 3: So you got that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what that means. We did arrest Epstein,

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Speaker 2: he's our pedophile. We did arrest him. In fact, he

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Speaker 2: died in jail. Actually we arrested him, prosecuted him twice.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Buckley, Big Winner, Best Actress.

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Speaker 6: It's Mother's Day in the UK today, so I would

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Speaker 6: like to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was at an oscar party, hundreds of people

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Speaker 2: Wr Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Patricia

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Speaker 5: Thank you for you?

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Speaker 9: I mean I'm just powerful. Thank you for your letter.

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Speaker 4: It was you know, it was very powerful.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your letter. What a response?

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Speaker 9: Are you making fun of me? That's none?

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Speaker 11: Nice?

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Speaker 2: You know, if you write a letter to the president,

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Speaker 2: This shirt maker writes to every president, whoever's in office,

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 3: You know you were talking about the Oscars last night,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what it was about. It was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was an innocence to it, you know,

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Speaker 2: like Breaking Bad is a brilliant show. It's as good

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Speaker 2: how you doing, Good morning, Mark, that's Mike.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you on some of those old shows. I

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Speaker 2: I know who he was. Yeah, it was a pretty

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Speaker 2: good actor, Glengarry, Glenn Ross and the right stuff I

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Speaker 5: The right stuff I was thinking of Paul thy team,

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Speaker 5: the right stuff. Okay, but you know you're you're an EMC,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's just it was different. Back then.

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Speaker 2: We all knew who everybody was. Today it's all fragmented.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well thanks for calling. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: It's so fragmented. You don't know who anybody is anymore,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about. They'll tell you

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The other thing we're talking about that golden age of

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Speaker 2: It was just bad, cheesy stuff. Hey, the greatest columnist

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Speaker 2: in the in the country, Michael Goodwin, he'll be with

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Speaker 1: To Mark the most show only you.

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Speaker 2: Are well the best columnist in America. Michael Goodwin every

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Speaker 2: Sunday and every Wednesday in the New York Post. You

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Speaker 11: Doing, Good morning? Mark?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. You're right about the media. It's hard to

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Speaker 11: Well, that's the question, right the uh you know, talking

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Speaker 11: Of course, the New York Times stuck with this bland

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Speaker 11: hezeb lah. But the New York Times never made the

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Speaker 11: connection because why ruin a perfectly good story that makes

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Speaker 11: America look bad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's out and out deception. His relatives were

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Speaker 2: Hesbela terrorists. Israel stopped him. The Times they knew all this.

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Speaker 2: Sec chair car talking about sanctioning some of these media outlets.

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Speaker 2: He's right, isn't he.

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Speaker 11: Well? Look, I think I'm not certain of the legal

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Speaker 11: definitions in these cases. But look, I do think that

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Speaker 11: the anti American tone, the anti Israeli tone, of much

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Speaker 11: of the American media is unfooled to display in their

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Speaker 11: coverage of the war. I mean, you do often wonder

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Speaker 11: whose side are they on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whose side are they on? They're just on the

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Speaker 2: Democrat side. They'll just say anything bad about things when

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Speaker 2: the Republican Isn't Is it that simple?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think that's the kind of the spear. The

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Speaker 11: tip of the spear is that they hate Donald Trump,

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Speaker 11: and so anything that would make him look good then

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Speaker 11: has to be you know, defeated in an argument. And

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Speaker 11: of course, in the case of war, you are effectively

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Speaker 11: not just going after the president you're going after the

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Speaker 11: American military and America itself. That's what we're seeing here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Look, they don't have to become but they have to

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Speaker 11: release the fair and accurate in their reporting. But rather

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Speaker 11: they're rushing to judgment in ways that suit their agenda,

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Speaker 11: not the facts.

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Speaker 2: Now, Michael Goodwin, you used to work at the New

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Speaker 2: York Times, do you? Yes, it was not like this.

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Speaker 11: It was a little No, it's a very different place.

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Speaker 11: And I you know, Mike, I still many of the

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Speaker 11: things that I still go by in my own work

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Speaker 11: I learned at the New York Times. I mean the

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Speaker 11: idea that you don't you don't assume what's in someone's head.

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Speaker 11: And I would like our listeners to this. Gaze at

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Speaker 11: the front page of the New York Times one day

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Speaker 11: or any of their stories about Trump and Republicans, and

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Speaker 11: they are telling you what they're thinking. Their motives are

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Speaker 11: always the focus of the attack. It's not that they

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Speaker 11: wanted to do the best. They wanted to do the worst.

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Speaker 11: They wanted to do this their self enriching or whatever.

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Speaker 11: It's constantly an attack on motives. When I was at

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Speaker 11: the New York Times, there was an open rule you

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Speaker 11: don't go after someone's motives because you're not a mind reader.

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Speaker 11: Neither are you a detective.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, hey, mayor mom, Donnie trying to Olive branch

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Speaker 2: wants to meet with Jewish leaders. Then they find out

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Speaker 2: he's only going to be there briefly. It was obviously

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Speaker 2: just a photo op. What is wrong with this guy?

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Speaker 2: How hard would it be to actually sit down for

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Speaker 2: an hour and listen to people?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a you know, I think he's thinking himself

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Speaker 11: a very deep hole in a lot of ways. Mark,

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Speaker 11: He seems sort of not to care about the basic

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Speaker 11: things that a mayor is elected to do. He seems

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Speaker 11: to be off on his own tension, and there doesn't

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Speaker 11: seem to be any real filter between what he says

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Speaker 11: what he does. With a larger reality in the city

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Speaker 11: is about full steam ahead on the radical socialist agenda.

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Speaker 11: And you know, also with a Muslim situation, he's quick

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Speaker 11: to criticize everybody else, but very slow on that side.

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Speaker 11: So it does look like he's playing favorites. Yeah, in

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Speaker 11: a very dangerous and volatile situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think he realizes a job number one,

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Speaker 2: fill the potholes, you know, get the trains, move all

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Speaker 2: that sort of th.

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Speaker 11: That's right, that's right. Yeah, when you get too far

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Speaker 11: off the core issues that a mayor is elected to do,

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Speaker 11: that's when you really fail. You mean, you come up

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Speaker 11: empty handed and you get entangled in all these disputes

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Speaker 11: that ultimately are meaningless about the job.

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Speaker 2: And he's back to this closed Rikers island. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's no more perfect spot for a prison than on

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Speaker 2: an island, and he wants to move them into the boroughs.

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Speaker 2: This is the foremost crazy idea to Blasio's crazy idea.

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Speaker 11: What's the s Yeah, I agree. I do think the

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Speaker 11: one thing that really will stop that would be the

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Speaker 11: cost of building those jails and the community opposition. Nobody

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Speaker 11: wants a jail in their neighborhood, so I think that

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Speaker 11: will to me run into reality and as it did

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Speaker 11: with build a Bosio and Eric Adams never really embraced

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Speaker 11: that idea. But I'm not surprised that Mom donney thinks

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Speaker 11: it's just a swell thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So will this get better or worse? Will he

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Speaker 2: start to will those big special interests, real estate guys,

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Speaker 2: unions start to dangle things in front of maybe get

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Speaker 2: him in line will it improve it all?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think the one break on a lot of

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Speaker 11: his stuff, Mark is going to be the budget, you know,

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Speaker 11: the downgrade from from you know stable too. I think

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Speaker 11: a negative outlook on the credit It doesn't mean we're

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Speaker 11: approaching bankruptcy. But it's the kind of kind of warning

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Speaker 11: signed that all mayors of all parties have adhered to

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Speaker 11: since the fiscal crisis of the seventies. That was the

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Speaker 11: great learning moment about the dangers of losing access to

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Speaker 11: the credit markets and being viewed as the spend for

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Speaker 11: its Well, that is the sort of thing that he

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Speaker 11: does not pay attention to. It. It could undermine everything

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Speaker 11: he wants to do, in part because all of his

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Speaker 11: ideas are big ticket items, very expensive. So and I

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Speaker 11: think if he gets any of his taxes, he's going

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Speaker 11: to find he probably collects the less money rather the more,

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Speaker 11: because you're going to drive people out of the city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff. Everybody go read his column.

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Speaker 2: You can read his Calm every Sunday and every Wednesday

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Speaker 2: in the New York Post. But all the coms are

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Speaker 2: up on the website. You can go New York Posts

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Speaker 2: website and read them. Michael Goodwin. Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 11: Oh, it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Mark, take care. Hey, coming up, don't forget at noon,

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton, Clay Travis, excellent show at twelve noon and

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Speaker 2: get Bucks new book. It just came out. It's on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: Sean Hannity three o'clock, the most listened to radio show

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Speaker 2: in America. Jesse Kelly at six and you got Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Faylor with him. Oh, it's a really funny show. Every

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Speaker 2: night at nine here on seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Wo News breaks out in every show, Mark Simone on

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Speaker 1: seven ten, wor.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hey, coming up for the next hour, I'll talk

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Speaker 2: about the Oscars. We'll also talk about Johnny Carson, one

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Speaker 2: of the great Oscar hosts for many, many, many years.

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Speaker 2: And we've talked about him before, but usually the stuff

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Speaker 2: you think of when you think of Johnny Carson, But

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Speaker 2: you know, there was another side to him. He was

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Speaker 2: overall a great guy, wonderful guy. But there was a

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Speaker 2: period of a lot of womanizing, cheating on his wife.

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Speaker 2: There was running with the mob where there was a

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Speaker 2: hit out on him. This is right in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the tonight show, and he had to go into

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Speaker 2: hiding for a few days, So we'll get to that

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Speaker 2: other stuff. And this is not just a cheap tabloid.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the greatest Carson historian has documented

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Speaker 2: all of this stuff. We'll get to that coming up

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Speaker 2: in the next hour, and we'll get to crazy mayor Mom,

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Speaker 2: Donnie floundering around, and we'll get back to Iran and

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Speaker 2: a whole lot more in Cuba that could be the

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Speaker 2: next country to get liberated. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 2: the next hour. Hey, spring begins Friday, so you got Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 2: you got three more days tomorrow and then spring. It

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Speaker 2: the first day of spring. Hey, I'm here every day

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Speaker 2: ten to noon, and don't forget if you can't listen

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Speaker 2: ten to noon, or if you've got to miss a

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Speaker 2: show or miss an hour, you can always hear this

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Speaker 2: show by just getting the podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 2: you'll find this show and you can listen anytime day

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Speaker 2: or night. So we'll be back right after the news

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Speaker 2: on seven to ten wor.

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Speaker 1: Back to Marshamore on wor.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to Johnny Carson later this hour, Hey,

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Speaker 2: speaking which Stephen Colbert. Believe it or not, I can

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Speaker 2: talk to believe it. You went from Johnny Carson to

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Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert, this angry, bitter little guy with this twisted

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Speaker 2: up It's called the Late Show, should be called the

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Speaker 2: Hate Show. It's just this hate filled rant every night.

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Speaker 2: They fired him. He's gone, he's just working out the

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Speaker 2: contract which has got This is March April May, so

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Speaker 2: it's about two more months. But CBS is already erasing

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Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert from everything they can. If you go into

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Speaker 2: the Big Broadcast Center fifty seventh and eleventh, when you

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Speaker 2: walk in there, there's pictures of all the shows. As

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Speaker 2: you come down the hallway, the pictures of Colbert and

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Speaker 2: the Late Show have disappeared. They've been taken off the walls.

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Speaker 2: One insider saying it's it's like it never existed at all.

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Speaker 2: Every CBS facility everywhere has taken down all the pictures

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Speaker 2: of Colbert, all the references to Colbert. The network now

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Speaker 2: confirms that when he goes off the air, there will

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Speaker 2: be no sendoff, no goodbye party, no anything. They've had

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Speaker 2: it with this guy. They want nothing to do with him.

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Speaker 2: He's ruined late night television. Something completely destroyed it. He

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Speaker 2: was really first to go total hatred, and then Kimmel followed.

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Speaker 2: Fallon sort of followed, but Fallon's the one guy who

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Speaker 2: could go back to a regular entertainment show at night

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Speaker 2: if he wanted to. Kimmel is too far gone. He

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Speaker 2: just became this angry, bitter guy. Colbert was always just

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Speaker 2: a hate filled, angry guy. So they can't wait to

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Speaker 2: get this thing off the air. The Late Show, The

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Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert Late Show. Now, remember it's in its final

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Speaker 2: month or two. You know, remember when Johnny Carson announced

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Speaker 2: he was retiring, and may have why the last few months,

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Speaker 2: the ratings were through the roof. Everybody wanted to watch

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Speaker 2: his final shows, and all the biggest stars in the

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Speaker 2: world wanted to come on. It was quite a ratings

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Speaker 2: boost those final months. It's just the opposite of the Colbert.

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Speaker 2: He's going off pretty soon and his final months are

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Speaker 2: ratings disaster. In fact, the last month was the worst ever,

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Speaker 2: worst January ever. He had two hundred and eighty five

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Speaker 2: thousand viewers in the demo. Two hundred and eighty five

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Speaker 2: thousand in their demo. Now, normally, you know, in the

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Speaker 2: Carson days, it was eight million, nine million network says

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Speaker 2: the final show can't come soon enough. Now, when they

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Speaker 2: take him off the air, they're not going to put

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Speaker 2: on another talk show. It could be a game show,

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Speaker 2: or it could be reruns. You know, when The Kimmel

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Speaker 2: got pulled off the air for a week, they just

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Speaker 2: ran reruns of Password and it got triple the ratings

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Speaker 2: of Kimmel, So don't think CBS didn't notice it. And

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Speaker 2: to run the reruns of Password, it's free, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: cost anything. So expect Colbert to be replaced with reruns

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Speaker 2: of a game show or CBS drama or something like that,

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Speaker 2: and it'll get double triple the ratings at Colbert and

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Speaker 2: cost nothing. What do they do with that big theater, Well,

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Speaker 2: they spent a lot of money on that theater through

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Speaker 2: the years, the Ed Sullivan Theater, and it's a really

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Speaker 2: good TV studio. So I would imagine CBS keeps it,

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Speaker 2: uses it to do game shows and that sort of

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Speaker 2: stuff out of there. Also, you can make a lot

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Speaker 2: of money renting out the theater as a TV studio.

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Speaker 2: In fact, before Letterman took it over, in between The

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Speaker 2: Ed Sullivan Show and Letterman taking it over, that's what

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Speaker 2: it was. You could rent that theater and millions of

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Speaker 2: shows were done out of there if you needed to

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Speaker 2: rent a studio. Hey, you know the show Access Hollywood

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Speaker 2: gone canceled. Even the top producers were totally unaware it

646
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: was going to get canceled. NBC Universal made the decision Friday.

647
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Access Hollywood got a call after nearly thirty years, canceled.

648
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: That's it, no more Access Hollywood. Why. Ratings were good,

649
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: in fact, they were higher than Extra, but TV viewership,

650
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: Network TV viewership is way way way down. A lot

651
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: less people watch network TV or local stations TV. That's

652
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: who runs all these Access Hollywood. All these local stations

653
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: run Access Hollywood and just doesn't pay to do them anymore.

654
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Viewership is way way way down. So Access Hollywood is canceled. Hey,

655
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: we're talking about potholes before they're still there. This was

656
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: the worst season ever for potholes because of the Remember

657
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: the temperature would go from minus fifteen to seventy five

658
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: the next day. It's that quick temperature shifts that caused

659
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: the potholes, and also the salt and stuff they throw

660
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: all over the road. So it's worse than ever. And

661
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: apparently they don't have enough people to fix it. The

662
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: mayor and others said there'd be two weeks, will fix

663
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: all the potholes. It's not getting done. The union that's

664
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: in charge of all that says they don't have enough people.

665
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: They could use at least two hundred more highway workers

666
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: to get the job done. Say it's the biggest crop

667
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: of potholes they've seen after this brutal winter. But the

668
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: Mamdani promised for two weeks. They say, he is not

669
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: going to happen. Just not possible. Hey, so the Epstein files,

670
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people you know. Sometimes you

671
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: see these business people are Bill Gates or Bill Clinton.

672
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: You're not shocked, and that's how your picture hanging out

673
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: with Epstein. But deep pak Chopra his followers stunned, stunned

674
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: that he's in there.

675
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 9: Now.

676
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: There's some guys that end up in this Epstein file,

677
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: like Dick Cavett. You wouldn't expect him to be in there.

678
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: Woody Allen, but it's pretty innocent with these two. Woody Allen.

679
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: It was remember after the scandal, Woody Allen could not

680
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: get any financing to make movies. All the big studios

681
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: stopped financing his movies, so he couldn't get movies made

682
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: with the big studios or and the Hollywood stuff, so

683
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: he had to go out and raise his own money.

684
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: And the way you raise money is you find wealthy guys, starstruck,

685
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 2: wealthy guys who want to pretend to be a movie

686
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: producer or hang around show business, and they'll finance your movies.

687
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of them, a lot of them,

688
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: not just Woody ell a lot of Scorsese's done that

689
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: with a few films. You just go find some rich

690
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: guys to give you the money. You don't have to

691
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: deal with the Hollywood studio. And these rich guys are

692
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: just as starstruck as anybody. So that's what Woody Allen

693
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: was doing, getting Epstein to finance movies. In exchange, Woody

694
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Allen had to come to his house for a lot

695
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: of dinners, a lot of luncheons, and Epstein would invite

696
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: all of his friends and you could sit there and

697
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: have lunch with Woody Allen, dinner with Woody Allen. It's annoying,

698
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: but he was willing to do it to get the financing.

699
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Woody Allen's close friend Dick Caviot got dragged into this.

700
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Why was Cavot doing it? Well, if you read the files,

701
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: it looks like Cabot wanted a rich guy to finance

702
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: a PBS special he was trying to put together other

703
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 2: Epstein did do that. So that's what I'm now. That's innocent.

704
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: D Pac Chopra, the guru who everybody idolized. This guru,

705
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: this is different. You can read all the emails. You

706
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: can go to the Epstein files. His behavior was pretty

707
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: slimy there. He was all over Epstein. Here's one devoted

708
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: follower of his on Facebook says, I just looked at

709
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: the Chopra emails with Epstein and I am about to

710
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: drown in my own vomit. He wants to go away

711
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: with Epstein on trips and in the invitation he says

712
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: bring your girls. On at least two occasions, Chopra invited

713
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: Epstein to join him on trips to Israel in Switzerland,

714
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: specifically telling him to bring your girls. In the Israel invitation,

715
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: Chopra also suggested Epstein use a fake name if he

716
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: wished Chopra. Another one wrote, God is a construct. Cute

717
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: girls are real. Yeah, a lot of stuff with women

718
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: and Deepak Chopra and then apparently Chopra was quite the

719
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: ladies man. In one email, Epstein's texting him, I liked

720
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: watching you zero in on your prey made me smile.

721
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: The word predator is used. And then there's another one

722
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: from Chopra requests for cute girls. He asked if he

723
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: had found him acute Israeli while he's over there, Epstein

724
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: offered to send two girls to a meditation events Chopra

725
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: was hosting, which Chopra accepted, requesting their names for the

726
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: guest list. Now what does Chopra say about all this? Well,

727
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: he issued a statement on X denying any criminal or

728
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: exploiti of contact. He acknowledged that some past email exchanges

729
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: reflected poor judgment in tone and expressed regret for how

730
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: they might be interpreted. The reports specified that it's unclear

731
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: how old the girls were in the message as well

732
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: how it might be interpreted. I don't know if when

733
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: you're writing Epstein and you say bring your girls, how's

734
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: it going to get interpreted? Hey, there was a noted publicist,

735
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: Peggy Siegel. I think she's kind of retired now. Peggy's

736
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: Siegel throughout the eighties and nineties was the big publicist

737
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: for the movie studios through the big, big, big, big

738
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: movie premiere parties here in New York. Was the nastiest

739
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: person ever, nasty personality. Everybody behind her back, always bad

740
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: motter like crazy. But she was quite the publicist. If

741
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: it was a big event with big, big names, major

742
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: business names, society names, that's who you hired to put

743
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: together the party. Well, nobody was more involved with Epstein

744
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: than Peggy Siegel. Nobody. It was five thousand emails turned

745
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: up just in one year, oh no, ten years, five

746
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: thousand emails in ten years. And why would she do

747
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: this for Epstein? Well, money, he had what's known as

748
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: check's appeal. He would write massive checks. For instance, on

749
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: her birthday party, he sent her one hundred thousand dollars

750
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: as a gift, that kind of stuff. And every time

751
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: he wanted her to put together a party, put together

752
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: a dinner party for my birthday, invite all the biggest

753
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: names in New York. He sent thirty thousand dollars for

754
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: the party they wanted Elton John, So fifteen thousand was

755
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: donated to Elton John's charity. A lot of money was spent.

756
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: Now she lost. I think a lot of the movie

757
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: Studios once it all came out about Epstein, and she's

758
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: really the one that got him a lot of big

759
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: names in New York, but she's getting a lot of

760
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: flak for this now. He's the one that when he

761
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: got Prince Andrew at his house. She's the one that

762
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: threw the dinner party for Prince Andrew, and she got

763
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 2: George Stefanopolis to come, and Katie Kuric to come and

764
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: Stephanoppolis later got a lot of flack for having dinner

765
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: at Epstein's house, and he put out some stupid statement about, well,

766
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: maybe I should have done my due diligence. Well, he's

767
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: supposed to be some sort of a news guy, and

768
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: it was in every news outlet in the world that

769
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: he was convicted of being a pedophile in prison, So

770
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: it wasn't that hard to do the due diligence. But anyway,

771
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: we'll do that. Throughout the week, we'll bring you more

772
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: of these shocking names that are in the Epstein files. Hey, Cuba, Cuba,

773
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: the communist government of Cuba could fall at any moment.

774
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: There were riots in the street this weekend. Rioters attacking

775
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: a communist party building, entering it throwing everything out the windows.

776
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: This is building. It's possible that Iran is liberated. It's

777
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 2: possible Iran gets a new government, is no longer a

778
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: brutal terrorist dictatorship. And it's possible in the months ahead,

779
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Cuba gets rid of communism, goes capitalist. Trump would absolutely,

780
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: without question, deserve a Nobel Prize for all of this,

781
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: because he's been working on this behind the scenes. And

782
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, Cuba is a beautiful Caribbean island. It's in

783
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: total poverty and decay for decades under communism. If you

784
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: liberated it, it would look like Miami. In fact, before

785
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 2: the Communists took over, it looked like Miami. It had

786
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: all the same hotels. Same guy that built the Fountain

787
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: Blue had a hotel in Cuba. The same guy that

788
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: built the Eden Rock had a hotel in Cuba that

789
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: was magnificent. Hotels, the most beautiful beaches, gambling casinos, nightclubs.

790
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: It could go back to that. It could make a fortune.

791
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: So look for that to happen. You know, if they

792
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: need somebody to take over and run Iran, who would

793
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 2: do it well, the Sun of the Shaw of Iran.

794
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: He's been in this country for forty seven years, Reza

795
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: pan La Pavlav, and he's been pushing for decades to

796
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: be the guy to go back and take over. And

797
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: he's been leading, you know, all kinds of events and

798
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: discussions and about going back and taking over. I don't

799
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: know if the White House has any real confidence in him.

800
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with him, He's just he hasn't been there

801
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: in forty seven years, and it's hard to imagine you

802
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: could go back forty seven years later and know what

803
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: the hell's going on or know anybody there. But he

804
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: could play some sort of role in this, he probably

805
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: would not be the new leader. And there's a tremendous

806
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: amount of Persians here in the United States and the

807
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: Persian community. You see them all over in New Jersey,

808
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: Long Island, Sands Point, Great Neck, very very very successful

809
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: business people, very very smart people. So it's a huge

810
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: diaspora of the Persian community. Huge and they've been talking, meeting,

811
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: gathering over the last few weeks figuring out what they

812
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: can do. And these are smart, wealthy guys. They can

813
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: do plenty to help support a new government in Iran.

814
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: So it could happen soon. You know, we've been trying

815
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: to take out the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the Revolutionary Guard,

816
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: the Republican Guard. And they're the vicious ones. They're the

817
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: really ugly, vicious, brutal terrorist ones have been shooting protesters

818
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: and all that. But there's the regular army. We're trying

819
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: very hard not to hit them. The Islamic Republican Iran Army.

820
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: We've been leaving them alone because they'll be needed. If

821
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: Iran gets free, they'll be there. They'll be the new army.

822
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: We'll get rid of the Republican Guard, the regular army

823
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: will take over. It could get pretty interesting in the

824
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: next few months. We'll get to Johnny Carson coming up

825
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: in a few minutes. Interesting stuff that you never knew

826
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: about them. We'll take some calls next eight hundred three

827
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: two one zero seven ten is the number. Eight hundred

828
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: three two one zero seven ten.

829
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: Always this step ahead of the news. Here's more Marks

830
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: imone on seven ten. Wr.

831
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: Hey, let's take some calls. Let's go to Bonnie and

832
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 2: Toms River. Bonnie, how you doing.

833
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 12: Hi, Mark? I was just wondering this guy they put

834
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 12: in charge of Iran, the Sun. Yeah, he's pretty banged up.

835
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 12: I mean he's performed and he's in a coma. Is

836
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 12: it sort of like the Weekend with Bernie thing where

837
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 12: they prop them up and he waves yeah.

838
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

839
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: He's kind of the Joe Biden of Iraq. Now yeah,

840
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 2: they actually think he well, some think he's dead. There's

841
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: no confirmation that he's actually alive. It's been reported he

842
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: lost a leg in the bombing, facial lacerations, he was

843
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: in a coma, and.

844
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 12: Some of them I heard last night they think he's gay.

845
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gay, which is pretty funny because in Iran

846
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: that's illegal and they'll hang you if you're gay. So

847
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: so it was always said that the Iotola himself never

848
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: wanted his son to take over, and they said the

849
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 2: reason was they didn't want to get into this family

850
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: dynasty because that's what they had with the Shaw. But

851
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: could also be that he knew his son was gay

852
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: and that doesn't fit with what the Iranian government believes.

853
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: Let's go to Phil in Northport. Phil, how you doing?

854
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: Yes?

855
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 13: Hello, Hello Mark, And just kudos to whose cadets put

856
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 13: it into that miserable human being that killed the lieutenant

857
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 13: colonel in Arlington, Arlington, Virginia. And why didn't the governor

858
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 13: of Arlington, Virginia make one word about this.

859
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: You mean the governor of Virginia. All right, Well, anyway,

860
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: she's a left wing cook. She's not going to say

861
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: a word about it. But you've had the worst coverage

862
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: of everything we're talking about this last hour with Michael Goodwin,

863
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 2: just absolutely. For instance, the Michigan shooter, the guy who

864
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: tried to run over the kids, I mean, this awful terrorist,

865
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: and the New York Times and others put out this

866
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: narrative that he was so driven, so crazy because his

867
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: brother had been killed and an Israeli airstrike, his brother

868
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: in Lebanon was killed and in his early airstrike it

869
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: was very you know, to get sympathy from this is

870
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: what the New York Times and others wrote. Well, it

871
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: turns out it was true. The reason he was killed

872
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: he was a Hesbala terrorist. They forgot to mention that

873
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: in the article. They deliberately didn't mention it in the article.

874
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: You've had this kind of stuff going on. That's why

875
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: the FCC chair is warning these media outlets. They also

876
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: reported the story about we lost six ships, six ships

877
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: were sunk in or rent. None of this was true,

878
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: completely false, but major news outlets all ran this story.

879
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: That's why they're talking about FCC crackdown. Let's go to

880
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: Vincent and Brooklyn. Vincent, how you doing.

881
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 10: Good morning, Mark, I'm okay, Good morning, Mara, Mark abb

882
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 10: A girls Bamberger. The governor Virginia pulled the bait and switch.

883
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 10: She ran as a moderate, and now she wants to

884
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 10: tax anything walking, even cockerroaches and water bugs. Mark, I'm

885
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 10: sure you heard about Mandami's latest boneheaded plan. He wants

886
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 10: the state to low the inheritance tax threshold from seven

887
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 10: million dollars to seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and

888
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 10: he wants an inheritance tax rate of fifty percent.

889
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Now, if you have inheritance, the first seven million is

890
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: not taxed, he wants to make that the first seven

891
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: hundred thousand, which, now explain this to me, though federal

892
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: inheritance tax about fifty percent, isn't it?

893
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 11: No?

894
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 10: Actually, and you got to make you got to really

895
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 10: be inherit a lot of a lot, a lot of buddy, No,

896
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 10: it's not not that what there is tax on. Like

897
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 10: if somebody in New York, and that's upfront, if let's

898
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 10: say your mom leaves a bank account in trust for

899
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 10: you if it's over thirty thousand dollars, they put and

900
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 10: this was years ago. I don't even know what it

901
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 10: is now. They put a lock on that accountant to

902
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 10: get you paid a tax up front, and you get

903
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 10: a clearance, a statement of clearance from the state tax Department,

904
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 10: and you present it to the bank and they'll free

905
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 10: up your money. I heard an economist over this weekend

906
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 10: talking about real estate in New York. And this person

907
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 10: knows about economics, but does not know about real estate.

908
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 10: He was saying that you could buy the average house

909
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 10: in New York City. You could you buy one for

910
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 10: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. No way, you can't

911
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 10: even even in Brooklyn. The average co op let alone

912
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 10: of Manhattan goes for at least a million dollars. Block.

913
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 10: I was offered the beginning the last week for one

914
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 10: of my properties. I was offered a straight up deal.

915
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 10: We would have went to the lawyer's office and closed

916
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 10: five million dollars for one of mine. A good dollars.

917
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: Very good. Now, listen, the argument against the inheritance tax

918
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: is this is money that people have earned, and they've

919
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: already rational wealth, they've already paid tax on it when

920
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: they earned it, they paid the tax. So you're taxing

921
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: the money that's already been taxed, which is.

922
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 10: And they paid tax on and when they invested in

923
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 10: the dividends, the interest, they paid tax on it, when

924
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 10: they put it in the bank and everything. And so

925
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 10: it's robbery. And that's this is how you create generational wealth.

926
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 10: And Montami and these communists they don't want that. They

927
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 10: want everybody to be in the poorhouse. Now they're the

928
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 10: only ones conducted to eat steak and lobster. And they

929
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 10: complain about our military men and women who were fighting

930
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 10: for us having a stake or lobster didn't what they

931
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 10: added their mind.

932
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: Yes, as a matter of fact, Vincent, great, thanks for calling.

933
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: That's another example of fake news. They printed the story

934
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: as if Hexath had ordered millions of dollars of taking

935
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: lobster for himself. It was for the troops. They also

936
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: failed to mention this has done a lot. When troops

937
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: are about to go into combat, you spend a lot

938
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: of money and give them one incredible meal before they

939
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: go off to off to war. Hey, when we come back.

940
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: The Johnny Carson, expert of the world, he wrote it

941
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: just came out the greatest book about Johnny Carson. But

942
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: there's a dark side to Carson you may not have

943
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: known about. We'll get to that next on seven to ten.

944
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: Wor give woor o, Bri said on the iHeartRadio app

945
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: to hear Marximone and all the wr hosts in an instance.

946
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Now back to the Mark Simon show on woor.

947
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know there's been a lot of books about

948
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson, but nothing like this. The Definitive Ultimate Johnny

949
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: Carson book came out last year. I urge you to

950
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: get it. It's the greatest book ever on Carson. It's

951
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: uncovered everything you could ever know about him. It's called

952
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: Love Johnny Carson. It's by Mark Malkoff. He also does

953
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: the Carson Podcast. There's about four hundred episodes you can

954
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: listen to with anybody and everybody that was ever involved

955
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 2: with the Tonight Show. But get the book, Love Johnny Carson,

956
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: by Mark Malcoff. You won't be able to put it down.

957
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: And he's with us now, Mark Malkoff, how you doing, Mark.

958
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Nice to talk to you again.

959
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: Hey, Oscars. Last night made me think of Carson. He

960
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: has been how many years was the Oscar host many years.

961
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: It was four or five years. He was the only

962
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: Oscar host in the history, no teleprompter, no q cars.

963
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: He memorized everything. The opening monologue, he would edit the

964
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: jokes in his head depending on how he did with

965
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: the crowd with each shoke. I mean that guy was

966
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 4: on a different level as a host, probably the greatest

967
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: Oscar host of all time.

968
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that with the Tonight Show. You know,

969
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: got like Jay Leno had to work on the monologue

970
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: to get the jokes in just the right order. But Carson,

971
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: you're right, on the Tonight Show would just jumble up jokes,

972
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: moving around on switch whatever he had to do. And

973
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: I think the only hoster ever that do that right.

974
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: Everyone else had the cue cards.

975
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was at Johnny was effortless. I

976
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 4: mean he had a phote, he took a photograph, a

977
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: memory class, and he could learn. He learned Russian, he

978
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: learned Swahili, he took Spanish classes and between shows in

979
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: Las Vegas. I mean the guy was unbelievable in terms

980
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 4: of his intellect.

981
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you should get the book Love Johnny Carson,

982
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: and the book is wonderful. You're gonna love Johnny Carson

983
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: even more when you read it. But we've had you

984
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: on a number two. We never talked about the bad stuff.

985
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: I thought we'd just well. During the New York years.

986
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: He was a big drinker and apparently a lot of affairs, cheating,

987
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: not just him but the wife too.

988
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 4: Correct that's true. I mean Johnny would talk on the

989
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 4: Tonight Show about how we struggled with drinking. It was

990
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: one of those things in New York where he was

991
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: so famous. He would go into a restaurant or a

992
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: bar and people would constantly be sending over drinks, and

993
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: he tried to be polite, take a sip, and he

994
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: was a lightweight, so after few drinks, as Carson acknowledged,

995
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: he would turn into Attila the Hunt. And in the

996
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: spring of nineteen seventy one, Johnny was at Jillies on

997
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: fifty second straight World's Fame as Jilly's Sinatra Territory. He

998
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: was with Ed McMahon and Ed's manager Robert Coe, and

999
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 4: Carson had way too much to drink, and mobster Joey

1000
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: Gallo had just gotten out of prison after serving a

1001
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: decade who was locked away just got out. As at Jilli's,

1002
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: Gallo is with his girlfriend, goes to the bathroom. Gallow

1003
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 4: does and Johnny unfortunately didn't remember this because he was drunk,

1004
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 4: but he did something highly inappropriate to Gallow's girlfriend. Jilly

1005
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: Rizzo told ed get Carson the blank out of here,

1006
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 4: which he did, and then Gallo came back and discovered

1007
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 4: what Carson did, and he put a hit on Johnny's life.

1008
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 4: And two things happened. One, Carson wisely got his good

1009
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 4: friend Frank Sinatra to intervene. Sinatra new Gallo. He knew

1010
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 4: some of the mafia figures. So Sinatra sat down with Gallow.

1011
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 4: They need a favor, and he said, anything, I need

1012
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 4: you to leave Johnny Carson alone. And Galo got really upset,

1013
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 4: but he said, you tell Carson the only reason he

1014
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: lives and breathes is because he knows Frank Sinatra. And

1015
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: then the second thing is NBC. Carson was twenty five

1016
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 4: percent of NBC's profits at one point, and to appease

1017
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: the acting mafia don in New York City, Joe Colombo,

1018
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: NBC News they aired a positive story in nineteen seventy

1019
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 4: one on Joe Colombo and his Italian American Civil Rights

1020
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: League for no reason, I mean, I watched it with

1021
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: my own eye.

1022
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: And you don't mean they ran a piece during the news.

1023
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean they created a primetime special for this, right

1024
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: they did.

1025
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: It was was prime time because they would have higher ratings.

1026
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 4: They were really worried about this and it aired in

1027
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: primetime and I look at that and I was like,

1028
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: it was just why would they do this? And they

1029
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 4: just you know, Carson was their cash cow. I mean,

1030
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: he was the most important person to the network and

1031
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 4: then Bob Hope. So they did that, and that was

1032
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 4: how Johnny was able to keep his life. I mean

1033
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 4: he would go to the Copa cabana and Jerry Vale

1034
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: was opening up the Copa and Carson again, two drinks

1035
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: and he was gone, and it was it was. He

1036
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: ruined Jerry Vale's entire premiere and Carson Jerry Vale's a.

1037
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 4: Carson apologized for decades.

1038
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 10: The show.

1039
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you just did not want to be around Johnny.

1040
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 4: But he would talk about it on the Tonight Show.

1041
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: We talked about it with Mike Wallace. It was a

1042
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: struggle of his. Really didn't get a hold of it

1043
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: until nineteen eighty two after he got unfortunately arrested for

1044
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: drinking and driving and three months prior on the Tonight Show,

1045
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: he was warning people you do not want to drink

1046
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: and drive during the holidays. And then three months later,

1047
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: of course, Johnny, but it was a struggle of his

1048
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: and then obviously the marriage is married. Four times he

1049
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: would talk about the struggles. But yeah, unfortunately in nineteen

1050
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: this has also happened in nineteen seventy one, Johnny. This

1051
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 4: was wife number two, Joe Anne, who was the one

1052
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 4: that really convinced Johnny to take the Tonight Show because

1053
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 4: Johnny and everybody said, don't you don't want to take

1054
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: over for Jack part, No one's going to succeed. She unfortunately,

1055
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: had caught Carson in some compromising situations with women, and

1056
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 4: she wanted to make Carson jealous. So she was going

1057
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: on the weekends to race car, drive races, race car

1058
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: She loved race car driving. She started having an affair

1059
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 4: with Peter Revson, a race car driver, a playboy race

1060
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: car driver, who's the heir to the Revlon throne. That's

1061
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: what the media said. Carson found out he had a

1062
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: she had a secret apartment, and he had a private

1063
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 4: investigator who you were actually friends with. Carson was crying

1064
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: when he found out that joe Anne was cheating on

1065
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: him and changed the locks on their apartment and it

1066
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: was over. And it was a really, really sad thing.

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Speaker 4: But you know, Carson just I mean temptation with the ladies.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't turn it down. He didn't turn them down

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Speaker 4: very often.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So so he's cheating with other women and she's going

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Speaker 2: away every weekend to go watch race races. But is

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Speaker 2: that smart that your husband's a cheater and you leave

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Speaker 2: them alone on the weekends.

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Speaker 4: That I just don't know about that. It was one

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Speaker 4: of those things where Johnny, for whatever reason, and men

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Speaker 4: of his generation thought it was totally fine for the husband.

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Speaker 4: There was nothing they would say, it was nothing emotional

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Speaker 4: about it, just physical. But if their wives did it

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Speaker 4: for whatever reason, it was like the worst thing that

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Speaker 4: they could possibly do. But yeah, Joanne was probably not

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Speaker 4: smart about that. And then she of course moved to

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Speaker 4: California and moved with Truman Capodi, who also has neighbors

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Speaker 4: with Johnny and the un plausa. Can you believe this?

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01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 4: Bobby Kennedy, Truman Capodi, David Suskin, Angela Lansbury, Yule Brenner.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was just a cavalcade of talent in

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Speaker 4: this one place. And then yeah, Truman Capodi in White

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01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 4: number two moved to la and they lived there until

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Speaker 4: they passed away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that un Plaza back in nineteen sixty four

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Speaker 2: sixty five, that was the premier apartment building of New York.

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Speaker 4: It really wise. I mean it was that's where Johnny

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: met Sonny Werblin, who owned the New York Jets, who

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Speaker 4: became his business partner, and they opened the clothing line

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Speaker 4: and made Johnny a rich ben.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now, hey, get the book. Most of it is positive

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: and Johnny Carson, if you think that's true, wonderful guy.

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Speaker 2: We're just focusing on the bad stuff here first because

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Speaker 2: we never got to it before. And there were people

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Speaker 2: that got themselves banned from the Tonight Show because Johnny

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: would have a problem with him.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: You know, I talked to four hundred people when I'm

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Speaker 4: talking to people that were on the very first show,

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: like mel Brooks, to people that were you know, one

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Speaker 4: of the last guest in nineteen nineties, so you have

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Speaker 4: thirty years of people. The one thing Carson did to

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01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: test it was rudeness, especially to his staff. And he

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Speaker 4: was you know from Nebraska, and he was very much

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Speaker 4: about having good manners. And Jerry Lewis was really rude

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Speaker 4: to Carson's staff, and Carson said, he is never coming back.

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Speaker 4: He would not tolerate rudeness, He would not tolerate comedians

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Speaker 4: coming on that for that we're debuting that did material

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Speaker 4: that might offend his audience. So unfortunately, Ellen DeGeneres on

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01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 4: her third appearance, did an offensive joke that Carson asked

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Speaker 4: her not to do, and she did, and she was

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Speaker 4: banned on the show. From the show, So there were

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Speaker 4: a bunch of people, maybe like thirty people that were

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Speaker 4: not welcomed on the show any I mean, William Shatner

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: was somebody that wouldn't let Johnny get a word in,

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Speaker 4: and Johnny detested that, and then Shatner turned his back

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Speaker 4: to Carson to talk to the previous guests, Buddy Hackett,

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Speaker 4: and then Shatner back then, you weren't allowed to believe

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Speaker 4: it or not. You remember this. You weren't allowed to

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Speaker 4: say what network your show was on unless it was NBC.

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Speaker 4: They say, on another network, And of course Shatner says,

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Speaker 4: watched me Saturday nights on ABC. TJ. Hooker. So Johnny

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Speaker 4: basically said three strikes, you're out, and we go into

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Speaker 4: everyone that was banned and why they were banned. Rich

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Speaker 4: little to this, almost to this day would he asked me,

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Speaker 4: why do you know why I was banned? And I

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01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: was able with my reporting to figure that out why

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Speaker 4: these people we were gone from Carson's show and even

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Speaker 4: his friend Carl Sagan, the famous astronomer, unfortunately after ten

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Speaker 4: or twelve appearances, was banned from the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he remained friends with him. He'd still go

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Speaker 2: to dinner with him.

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Speaker 4: He did, unfortunately interrupted Carson twice during this segment to

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Speaker 4: correct him, and it was very abrupt, and Johnny was

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01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: embarrassed and thought it was poor man. And he never

1142
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 4: had him on. He did stay friends with him, you know.

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Speaker 4: He would have dinners with Carl Sagan. He with Jim Fowler,

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01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: the wildlife expert. He went to San Diego to see

1145
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: the animals with with Joanah Embery at the San Diego Zo.

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Speaker 4: Just a really really interested man in how things work.

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Speaker 4: He really loved New York. I mean he pitched to

1148
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Speaker 4: Mickey Mantle in nineteen sixty two on the Tonight Show.

1149
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: He played with the Jets at the polo grounds. He

1150
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: was diving out of planes. I mean, Mark, you and

1151
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: I talk about Johnny in the New York Years. Unfortunately

1152
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: most of that footage is gone. But Johnny was on

1153
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Speaker 4: a different level, jumping out of airplanes, racing an Indiana

1154
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Speaker 4: motor speedway with Hernelli Jones, going over one hundred miles

1155
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Speaker 4: an hour. It's a really, really fun thirty years to

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Speaker 4: look at.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a great book. I urge everybody to get it,

1158
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: the new book, and it's got all kinds of great

1159
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: things about Johnny Carson and everything you never knew about him.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating. It's called Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malcof.

1161
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: Now for those are gonna write to me, what was

1162
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: the name of that place? Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malkoff.

1163
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: Get the book. You're gonna love it. And listen to

1164
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: the Carson Podcast. He's got four hundred episodes that are amazing.

1165
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: But get the book, Love Johnny Carson, Mark Malkoff. It's

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Speaker 2: on Amazon. Mark Malkoff, we'll do it again soon. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for being with us.

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Speaker 4: I would love that yet. We have some new episodes

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Speaker 4: coming out and always good talking to you. Mark. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, take care. Hey, don't forget. Curtis is now

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Speaker 2: on the Morning show, Curtis and Larry, Curtis Lee, Larry Minti.

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Speaker 2: It's every morning, six to ten, seven ten wor here's more.

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Speaker 1: Mark Simone on seven ten wor.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're out of time. Lousy weather today, but spring

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Speaker 2: begins Friday. I'll see you tomorrow ten o'clock, seven to

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Speaker 2: ten wor