1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Kf I am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: the house Whisper on demand on the iHeart radio app 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: A three three, the numeral two asked Dean, let's go 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: back to the phones. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: I want to talk to Nisha. Nisha, welcome home. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: I have a situation going on with my front lawn. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: It hasn't worked its way to the backyard yet, hopefully 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: it doesn't. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: I have this statching going on. 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: I am not sure like what it is. 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: I've been told it's possums. 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: I've been told it's raccoons. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 5: It's like I go out and all my grass has. 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 4: Been ripped up, and I'm getting these false spots in. 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: The lawn and I am not sure how to make. 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: It go away, premature balding of the lawn. Have you 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: have you done any surveillance so I do. 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Have cameras, and I have not I've never noticed any 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: creatures roaming around. 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, it kind I kind of figured that 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: was the case. Yeah, you know a lot of people 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: blame possum and raccoons for messing up lawns, but you know, 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: as if they just get come out in the middle 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: of the night with their shovels and just decide, you 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: know what, let's get under her skin and just take 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: some of this lawn away. It really doesn't happen that way. 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: It's more likely, you know, like the only larger mammal 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: that really terrorizes lawns on a regular basis are you know, 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: like gophers and prairie dogs, those kinds of things that 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: come up from underneath and leave little mounds of dirt, 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: and those are easy to identify because they've left behind 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: the dirt from the tunnel that they've dug. But by 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: and large, you know, I don't know. There's a handful 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: of causes for balding lawn areas. It could be heavy 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: foot traffic, but obviously that doesn't sound like it's a situation. 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Could be poor soil condition that is starting to kind 37 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: of spread. That's a possibility. Of course, you're classic the 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: neighbor's dogs or peeing on your lawn, but that usually 39 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: starts with a noticeable yellow patch first. But when you 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: just find that there's bare soil in the lawn, I 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: have found generally speaking that it's a grub infestation and 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, coross, what is that. It's very simple. 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: There are little tiny little beetles out there that are 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: all around us. And there are some species that like 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: to lay their eggs in the soil of our lawns 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: because they're nicely protected areas. And then as the grubs 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: start to hatch, the little grub beetles, they're feeding on 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: the roots of our grass and as a result of 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: these bald patches start to occur. So it could be 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: any one of those issues. I mean, you could have 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: like a fungal disease or a chemical burn. But I'm 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: putting my money on grubs because by and large that's 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: my experience with this. Fortunately, it's not that difficult to 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: deal with. What you do is, first of all, you 55 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: go get some grub treatment and you will find that 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: on the shelf of just about every garden center everywhere. 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: That you mix into the soil and that gets the 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: grubs under control. They're not spreading everywhere, They're just where 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: the bald patches are. And you rough up the soil, 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: add a little amendment to it, figure out what kind 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: of grass you actually have, add some seed, keep it moist, 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: and you'll grow the grass back. 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: Okay, So add the grub killer and this and fertilizer 64 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: at the same time. 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, good to know. And then you need 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: to reseed that area and keep it extra moist and 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, give the give the new seeds a shot 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: the best fighting chance possible. 69 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: Okay, what do you suggest for watering times? 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: I'm always confused on that. 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: Well, for watering times for a lawn in southern California, 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: it all depends on the efficiency of your sprinklers. But 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: not too long, you know. I mean, most lawns can 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: will water down with good sprinkler system in a half 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: hour or so. It also has to do with your 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: soil condition, whether you've got clay or you know, rocky 77 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: soil or sandy soil. In other words, how well how 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: well your soil holds on to the moisture that's given 79 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: to it. But here's a general rule. There are some 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: guides out there that you can look up and say, Okay, 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: I've got this kind of grass and this kind of lawn, 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: I live in southern California. How long should I be 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: watering my lawn with decent sprinkler coverage? And then what 84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: I like to do? And I think this is just 85 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: the most efficient, most effective ways I like to break 86 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: that up. So let's say, in fact, my smart watering 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: system does that if forty minutes is the amount of 88 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: time that that an area needs to be irrigated, then 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: my smart watering system will break that up into three 90 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: twenty minute sessions that are about a half an hour apart, 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: so that we water a little bit, we let that 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: soak in fully and become fully effective, and then we 93 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: water again and then you know, you understand what I'm saying, 94 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: So breaking it up into two or three cycles. And 95 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: always here in southern California, in the middle of the night, okay, 96 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: not in the early morning when everybody can see the 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: sprinkler's going off. Not during daylight hours. And the very 98 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: simple reason is that sun evaporates water. I want all 99 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: the water going into your soil. Now, this is not 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: true if you live back east, or you live somewhere 101 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: where it's much colder and much wetter, because there we 102 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: want a water during daylight hours so that we're not 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: building up too much water content and creating mold and 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: fungal growth and all of that kind of stuff. But 105 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: not here in southern California. No one in southern CALIFORNI 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: and you should ever see your sprinklers going off unless 107 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: they're up in the middle of the night. That's how 108 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: we take most efficient use of our water. I want 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: it all in the soil and so it's doing its 110 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: job fully and effectively. Nisha, thanks for the call. Go 111 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: check that out. Check out your watering times, and go 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: check out the grub treatments that you'll find at the 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: garden center and also figure out what kind of grass 114 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: you've got and buy that receding mix so that once 115 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: you get the grubs under control, then you know you 116 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: can grow in those patches. It's not a terminal situation. 117 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: You can fix it, I promise. Okay, quick break and 118 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: then more of your calls. Your Home with Dean Sharp, 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: the house Whisper. 120 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 6: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 121 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 6: KFI AM six forty. 122 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: It's an all calls show today. Let's get back to 123 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: the phones. Lydia, Welcome home. 124 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 7: Good morning, Dean. 125 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 5: I have a question that's been posed I think a 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: few times to you or you've explained it, but I'm 127 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: not sure if my problem applies or I have a 128 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 5: problem where we did a remodel box and extension about 129 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 5: in twenty two, so it's been a couple of years. 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 5: Immediately the shower, I thought the water went like hot 131 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 5: and cold. Now we did go. 132 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: From a regular. 133 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: Tank heater to a tank less and this is a 134 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: direct vent tankless waters eater. 135 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: I don't know that. 136 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what information. 137 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 5: You need, but anyhow, it goes from hot to cold. 138 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: I mean, it takes a long time compared to what 139 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: it used to to get hot in my opinion, right, 140 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: and then it goes where it begins to get warm 141 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 5: and then. 142 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: Excuse me, and then it goes cold again. 143 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: And have wait like fifteen seconds in the middle of 144 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: a shower for it to get hot again. 145 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: So okay, I know. 146 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: You mentioned like a recirculation plump and a bridge now, 147 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: but there's actually two things. 148 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: We're actually talking about two different things there, Okay, So okay, well, 149 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: first let's talk about the the the going cold on 150 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: you situation. Okay, the going cold on your situation. Are 151 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: you aware that of any other water being run when 152 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: it does it always do this, no matter no matter 153 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: whether it's the only water that's running in the house 154 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: or does it go cold on you because somebody else 155 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: turns a faucet on somewhere else. Or something like that. 156 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. I'm home of My husband's a fireman, 157 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: so he's often you know, away from home, and so 158 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: I can be home alone. I'm not running anything, so 159 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: I mean I've looked at that, you know, but no, 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: absolutely not. 161 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: Who that was the most important answer to the question. Okay, 162 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to 163 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: tell you that you need to have somebody look at 164 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: that water heater, okay, because a water heater should be 165 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: a tankless water heater should be putting out outputting a 166 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: consistent temperature all the way through. It should not be dipping. 167 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: There may be something wrong with a setting. There may 168 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: be a problem with a thermo coupler or a thermostat 169 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: inside the water heater. There may be an issue with 170 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: gas supplied to the water heater. I literally it could 171 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: be you know, one of ten different things or a 172 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: couple of different things. And I know it's only a 173 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: couple of years old, but you said you were having 174 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: the issue right from the get go, So it is 175 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: time to have somebody take a serious look at the 176 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: water heater because that is not normal and that's not 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: related to the house. Quite often. The reason I asked 178 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: The question is that quite often when it comes to 179 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,239 Speaker 2: tankless water heaters, a homeowner will pick one out for themselves, 180 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: or a plumber will will pick one out, or plumbers 181 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: usually don't make this mistake, but they'll pick one out 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: that is undersized for the home. Undersized meaning that, you know, 183 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: the idea of picking a tankless water heater is all 184 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: about how many hot water things do you want running 185 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: all at the same time, and that therefore you get 186 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,479 Speaker 2: a water heater that's capable of that kind of an output, 187 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: so that if you're taking a hot shower and then 188 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: somebody starts doing the dishes, running the dishwasher and the laundry, 189 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: that that water heater has got enough hot running through 190 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: it that it can supply to all of them without 191 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: the temperature dropping. Typically, when a tankless water heater is 192 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: dropping in temperature right in the middle of something, it's 193 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: because another their faucet has been turned on, and therefore 194 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: now it's having to share its hot water load with 195 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: another fixture, and the water heater isn't big enough sized 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: enough for volume to be able to handle it. And 197 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: that's a problem with the selection of the water heater. 198 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: But in your case, no other hot water is running 199 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 2: anywhere else in the house and it's still losing temperature. 200 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: That's a problem with the water heater itself. Now, very quickly, 201 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: let me answer your other question and the question of 202 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: because it's a completely separate issue. Tankless water heaters are 203 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: endless hot water. They are not instant hot water because 204 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: the hot water still has to travel the distance from 205 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: the water heater to get to the faucet that you 206 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: or the shower head that is being used. And so yeah, 207 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: there are ways of getting around that recirculation pump bridge 208 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: valve underneath the furthest sink away from the water heater 209 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: in the house. But just so people know, and it 210 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: is true to a certain degree, some old schoolers are like, 211 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm not going for that tankless thing because my old 212 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: tanked water heater delivered hot water faster. Well, technically, it 213 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: doesn't deliver hot water faster. The water moves at the 214 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: same speed from the water heater to the fawcet. But 215 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: a tanked water heater is sitting there heating water all 216 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: day long. So therefore that heat travels a little bit 217 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: further down the pipe because it's constantly heating it, whereas 218 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: a tank less water heater only heats on demand, and 219 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: because it's not doing any heating of the water, the 220 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: hot water in the water lines in between the water 221 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: heater and the fawcet have a chance to cool down further, 222 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: so the water's traveling at the same speed. The hot 223 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: water is taking just as long to get there, but 224 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: residual hot water from a tanked water heater is a 225 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: little closer to the faucet. This is absolutely true, but 226 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: that's something you can overcome design wise with a recirculation 227 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: pump or a research pump at the very very end, 228 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: they're not very expensive these days, and they'll help draw 229 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 2: that hot water in throughout the rest of the house. 230 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: That's something to consider, Lydia, when you're having a plumber 231 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: look at the situation. But most importantly, what's happening to 232 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: you with this ducking of a water temperature in the 233 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: middle of a shower when no other hot water is 234 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: being used in the house. That's a problem with the 235 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: water heater itself, and somebody needs to take a look 236 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: at Lydia. Thank you for your question and your call. Awesome. Awesome. 237 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: This is why we do this, because we just hit 238 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: a full gambit across the board. All right, more great 239 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: stuff on the way. You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp. 240 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: The House Whispool. 241 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 6: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 242 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 6: KFI AM six forty. 243 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: It's an all calls show today. Let's get back to 244 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: the phones. Hey Scott, welcome home, Hidane. 245 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: I've got the nineteen eighty six house and I living 246 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: Riverside and it's trying to get a little hot. Two 247 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: story downstairs stays ten degrees cooler than the upstairs. My 248 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: question is when it was built, they put the vent 249 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: above the doors for the beardrooms. Can I move those 250 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: vent to like the center or should I move them? 251 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So your concern is that the vents are too 252 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: high and they're not getting the job done. 253 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: Like the airflow I feel would be better in the 254 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: middle of the room or not above. 255 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Vents over entry doors are 256 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: really a hilarious thing. Well, it's not hilarious when you're 257 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: the one suffering with it. It's such a common tract home, 258 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: and you got to understand that they weren't put there scientifically. 259 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: They were put there economically. You know, you would think 260 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: in one house a little bit more ducting. It's no 261 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: big deal, right, It isn't. When you take a look 262 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: at your entire tract and the thousand or so houses 263 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: that went into the entire track, then everything that's just 264 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: a little bit more is something that the builder's generally 265 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: speaking cut back on the developers so that they didn't 266 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: have that one larger line item. And for those of 267 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: you who are like, why is he making such a 268 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: big deal about vents over doors? I kind of like 269 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: my vent over my door in the bedroom because when 270 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: I walk in, I don't see a vent anywhere, you know, 271 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: because it's back behind me and everything looks pristine. Well, 272 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: you're right, one way to hide a vent so that 273 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: as you walk into the room there's no view of 274 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: it anywhere. However, if somebody likes Scott, my house is 275 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: not staying cool the way it needs to. Especially if 276 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: I've got a two story home, there's a very very 277 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: good reason not to have the vent over the entry door. 278 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: And maybe your house is working for you in your 279 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: situation just fine. But it's got a two story home, 280 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: there are events. You know, it's hotter upstairs than it 281 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: is downstairs. Classic situation. You know, it's called science because 282 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: heat rises and cold air descends. These days, brand new 283 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: HVAC systems, there are ways to resolve that issue. Scott's 284 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: real issue though, right now, is he's staring at the 285 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: fact that in a typical tract home built in the eighties, 286 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: you've got vents above the entry doors, right up above 287 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: the door, blown into the room. And it seems at 288 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: first like that's kind of a cool place to place. 289 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: Event you don't see it when you walk into the room. 290 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: It's back behind you, it's up over your head. Esthetically, 291 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: as a designer, hey, if the science worked, if the 292 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: physics of it worked, I'd be all in favor of 293 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: all vents above doors when you walk in. I'm in 294 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: favor of putting you know, smoke detectors right up there 295 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: for the exact same reason, so we don't have to 296 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: see them out on the ceiling or the you know, 297 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: the far wall of the room. Why don't I want 298 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: to have the vent there. It's a very very simple, guys, 299 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: want you to think of your home, your air conditioning system. 300 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: You've got to realize that it's a recirculating system for 301 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: all of those small vents that are blowing into rooms, bedrooms, 302 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: family rooms, living rooms, kitchens so on. There is also 303 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: and depending on the size of the home, maybe more 304 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: than one. There are some large, much larger vents which 305 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: are the return air vent. Okay, the ducks that are 306 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: blowing into the house, into the room where you feel 307 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: air coming out of them, those are supply vents supplying 308 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: air into a space, and then there is a return 309 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: vent is literally sucking air out of the room, okay, 310 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: and that's what is creating the current of air flowing 311 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: in your house. If you were to take a sheet 312 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: of paper while the AC is running and go over 313 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: to the return air vents or large vents are usually 314 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: found in ceilings of hallways, or if your AC unit 315 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: is located inside the house, like it's a vertical unit 316 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: inside a closet where the furnace closet is, then quite 317 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 2: often and very likely the big vent right underneath that 318 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: closet door is the return air vent. Anyway, they're huge 319 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: compared to the other vents because they have to take 320 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: in as much air as all the other vents in 321 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: their little system are putting out. If you were to 322 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: take a piece of paper while it's running and put 323 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: it over that vent, you will find out that the 324 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: paper just sucks right up to it because it is 325 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: sucking air out of the room, all right. The point 326 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: being this, all central HVAC systems with forest air are 327 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: operating on a recirculation principle. That means if we were 328 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: to put a fog or a gas that's visible in 329 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: the room, you could see that coming out of the 330 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: vents eventually turning around and heading towards the return air. 331 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: That would be so illustrative to most homeowners. To drive 332 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: my point home, and it's simply this. In order to 333 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: cool a room, we need to get that cool air 334 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: crossing the majority of the airspace in the room. The 335 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: best place to put a vent to cool and or 336 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: heat a room is as far away from the exit 337 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: point of that room as possible. Like I said, most 338 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: tracked homes, there's going to be a return air vent 339 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: out in the hallway. And your HVAC system is not 340 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: some high pressure system where it's fire hosing air into 341 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: a space. So what's happening is if that bedroom door 342 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: is open for the system to work optimally, it should 343 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: be air is popping out of the vent over the door. 344 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: It's getting maybe a quarter of the way into the 345 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: room before the suction that the return air vent is 346 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: creating in the hallway pulls it back out and into 347 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: the hallway. So this is the case, and people will 348 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: notice this, Scott, You will notice this. People who have 349 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: doortop vent for their HVAC system have very very cool hallways. 350 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: That's because the hallway is getting the benefit of all 351 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: of that cold air, not the rooms. If we were 352 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: to imagine the air flowing into that room, it's only 353 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: going in maybe best case scenario, fifty percent of the 354 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: way in before it turns and is being pulled back 355 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: out again down the drain as it were. So yeah, 356 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: you're absolutely one hundred percent correct. If you've got attic space, 357 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: if you've got room, even if you know, if you're 358 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: serious about downstairs rooms, if you want to open up 359 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: some drywall and run ducting as far into the other 360 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: side of the room as possible, it's just a few 361 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: more feet and it's not that expensive for the homeowner 362 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: to pay for because it's a one off. It was 363 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: expensive for the developer to pay for a thousand times over, 364 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: and that's why they chinched on the HVAC system. So, yes, 365 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: knowing that the air that's in the room is going 366 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: to be sucked out of the room by the return air. 367 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: We want that air on the far side of the room, 368 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: so as it's being sucked out, it's passing through all 369 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: the airspace in the room and doing its damn job. 370 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Scott? 371 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 4: Thank you, Dean, That's what I was thinking. But you're 372 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: the best. You and Tina are both the best. How's that? Oh? 373 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, she will very much appreciate hearing that she actually 374 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: is the best. I am her sidekick in life and 375 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: happy to be number two in that woman's life. But 376 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: thank you very much, Scott. Good luck on that. Usually, 377 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: especially for those upstairs rooms which are so critical for you, 378 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: you've got attic space above it, and so moving those 379 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: vents from over the door you have a little drywall 380 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: patch there, But moving them from over the door to 381 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: the far side of those bedrooms shouldn't be that big 382 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: of a deal and really kind of a minimal expense. 383 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: Then you will see a massive difference. Not going to 384 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: solve the whole upstairs downstairs temperature deferential, but at least 385 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: the upstairs rooms will have a fighting chance. More of 386 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: your calls on the way you're listening to home the 387 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: Dean sharp the house Whisper. 388 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 6: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharps on demand from 389 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 6: KFI AM six forty. 390 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: I want to talk to Stephen. Hey, Stephen, welcome home. 391 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 7: Hello Dean. I'm so glad to talk to you. You know, 392 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 7: I have a tankless water heater. I just replaced it. 393 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 7: Actually the first one died after fourteen years. And I 394 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 7: want to add a recirculation pump under my kitchen sink, 395 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 7: but I don't have a dedicated return line for the 396 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 7: research pump. I found several products that'll do it, but 397 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 7: I'm a little concerned of how they work, so I'm 398 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 7: hoping you can give me some guidance. 399 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: The world of recirculation pumps has changed radically over the 400 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: years here and fairly recently too, in terms of construction innovations. 401 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: Right over the last ten years, there's been a radical change, 402 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Especially over the last five years. It has truly truly 403 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 2: taken hold, so much so that the research pump that 404 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: I'm about to tell you about, and I'm not talking 405 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: about a brand, I'm talking about a style. There are 406 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: a lot of brands out there. You can shop those 407 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: out for yourself. But the research pump style or concept 408 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: that I'm about to tell you about in southern California 409 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: and throughout the state in many places has been now 410 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: adopted as a requirement for new home builds and for 411 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: major remodels. That's how important it has become because it 412 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: is a water saving recirculation pump that does not require 413 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: a dedicated return line. So what we used to do 414 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: and what we still do, Okay, what we still do 415 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 2: if we know that we're building a custom home from 416 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: the ground up, and the client'sy like, listen, I just 417 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: want hot water everywhere, at every sink and every faucet 418 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: all the time, right, I don't want to wait two 419 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: minutes for the hot water to show up. Then what 420 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: we will often do still today is instead of plumbing 421 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: out the hot water system like a tree branch, like 422 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: a tree coming out from the water heater, that branches 423 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: out and keeps breaking off into smaller and smaller lines 424 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: until it eventually reaches every source like the tub and 425 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: the sink in the bathroom and so on. We will 426 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: take each one of those and return them back in 427 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: a loop back to the water heater, and that allows 428 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: us to put a recirculation pump on that just keeps 429 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: hot water moving through those lines, because the reason why 430 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: the hot water disappears is that it sits there for 431 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: an hour or two or three or however long you 432 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: haven't used the hot water, and it cools off, right, 433 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: it cools off sitting in the pipe, all right. So 434 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: the brilliance of the new fangled recirculation pumps and that 435 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: is so much in the pump itself, but in this 436 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: tiny little device called a bridge valve. A bridge valve 437 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: is a device that gets mounted underneath a sink, the 438 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: sink in question, and it gets mounted in. What it does, 439 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: it's a one way valve that actually joins the hot 440 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: water supply to the cold water supply underneath the sink. 441 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: Now why is this important? And what it does is 442 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: it allows you then to mount a small recirculation pump 443 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: that draws hot water off of the hot water line. 444 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: And even though there isn't a return circuit, what it 445 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: does is it draws hot water off the hot water 446 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: line and it pushes that hot water into the cold 447 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: water line, so that you get the action of a 448 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: recirculation pump. But we're not we don't have to run 449 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: a return circuit and we're not wasting water because it's 450 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: still your water. It sits in the cold line and 451 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: it cools off and it becomes cold water for you. 452 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: So that's how they work. And this this little brilliant 453 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: one way valve called a bridge valve in combination with 454 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: the recirculation pump. Now, configuring a re circ pump is 455 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: something that you can do a number of different ways. 456 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: You can put a recarc pump under every single sink 457 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: in your house. It's a little overkill in most homes. 458 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: The way that we like to do it typically is 459 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 2: if you're only concerned about getting the hot water at 460 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: the kitchen sink immediate, then fine, just put it right 461 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: under the kitchen sink. But if you have a sense 462 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: of the way your plumbing is kind of bridged out, 463 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: one way to do it is you take the sink 464 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: that's furthest away from the hot water heater, the furthest 465 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 2: end of the tree branch, as it were, the furthest 466 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: branch on the very end, and you put the recirc 467 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: pump there on a timer, on a regular rotating timer, 468 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: so that it fires on and it pulls a little water, 469 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: and then it turns off that it fires on and 470 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: pulls a little water and it turns off, and the 471 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: net benefit of that it's drawing the hot water through 472 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: all of the main branches and getting hot water closer 473 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: to all of your with one research pump properly located 474 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: under the right sink, so you can do it under 475 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: every sink. You could do it under one sink that 476 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: you want to prioritize, or you can run it at 477 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: the end of the very very furthest branch in the 478 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: house and you'll get hot water quicker out of all 479 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: your sinks and all of your appliances. It won't be 480 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: instant it's not instantaneous, but instead of like waiting two minutes, 481 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: you know you're waiting ten seconds and that well, and 482 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: instead of. 483 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 7: Dump on how many gallons of water down the sink, 484 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 7: and then I don't waste the water and my kitchen 485 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 7: sink is ideal because it's the furthest away from everything, 486 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: and it'll cover my bathrooms, my laundry room. 487 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: All that perfect good. 488 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 7: I guess my only concern is there's nothing on the 489 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 7: back end, and so there's got to be a check 490 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 7: valve or something back there to keep water from flowing 491 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 7: in the wrong direction as it's using the cold side 492 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 7: as the return pipe, and that's want to make sure 493 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 7: I'm not going to pipes or you know. 494 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, not at all. No, that is what the bridge 495 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: valve is. The bridge valve is essentially a check It 496 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 2: serves as a as a bridge between hot and cold. 497 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: Like I said, it's a one way valve. It allows 498 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 2: hot water to move into the cold. It does not 499 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: allow cold to come back into the hot. It is 500 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: both a bridge and a check valve. It in no 501 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: way threatens your plumbing system. They are approved, they are embraced, 502 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: and everybody really who can afford to get one should 503 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: get one. These research bumps, by the way, they range 504 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: in value anywhere from like the mid two hundreds to 505 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: the mid three hundreds and three hundred bucks three point 506 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: fifty or so two fifty to three hundred dollars. And 507 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: the check valve itself is you know, the bridge valve 508 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: is you know, it's like a sixty dollars item. So 509 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: it's a really really good setup. And I wouldn't worry 510 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: about your plumbing in any way, shape or form, Steven. 511 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: It's one of the it's one of the things water 512 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: heaters only. Does you know one of our sponsors is 513 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: one of the the benefit ads that they do to 514 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: a house when they're installing a new water heater. So anyway, 515 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: a really really good system and great questions, Stephen. It 516 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: allowed me to explain this to everybody who is listening, 517 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: and that's one of the reasons why we take calls. 518 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: Not only answer your question, but answer the thousands of 519 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: other listeners who are having the exact same situation in 520 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: their house and have that same question in their mind 521 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: but didn't call. 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