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Speaker 1: They're coming to Missic Lake Amphitheater August sixteenth with special

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Speaker 1: guest six Guns Sally never heard of six Gun Salad.

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Speaker 3: Lord I was born a Rambling, Maine. That's six Gun Sally.

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Speaker 2: A couple thirteen fourteen, pasted in comed East, tennant exciting

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Speaker 2: to lighted to welcome the legendary one Mark Rosen into our.

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Speaker 3: Studios afternoon afternoon to you. Were you there on Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear the booze?

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Speaker 4: Were they? Oh? I'm always there on Sundays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, of course I heard them pretty

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Speaker 5: hard to dorit.

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Speaker 3: Well, you couldn't hear them a little bit, but yeah.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like it was cascading down, but it was,

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Speaker 5: you know, and rightfully so. The fans were upset and

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Speaker 5: after watching three plus quarters. I'm not sure it's a

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Speaker 5: rhetorical question at this point. It's a moot point. But

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Speaker 5: I had the special teams not let the Vikings down

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Speaker 5: on that final kickoff, how much more conversation there would

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Speaker 5: have been about the eighty five yard drive in the

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Speaker 5: final minute that McCarthy led them. Wait a minute, I'm

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Speaker 5: just asking to ask you it's your fallback. I just

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Speaker 5: think that it's not. It would not have erased what

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Speaker 5: we saw obviously for three and a half quarters. But also,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if the question has been posed to

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Speaker 5: Koc this week about the you know, the up temple.

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Speaker 5: It just seemed like I was talking to some of

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Speaker 5: the other guys about it. JJ got into a rhythm.

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Speaker 5: He had to because they had to go down the

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Speaker 5: through a nice pass to Hockinson.

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Speaker 4: He had a ball tip.

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Speaker 5: He completed a fourth down pass to I think Aaron Jones,

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Speaker 5: and then he threw a beautiful pass to Naylor down

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Speaker 5: to Addison. You know, if the Vikings win that game

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Speaker 5: and they go well, I mean McCarthy led them to

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Speaker 5: a winning touchdown the fourth quarter. Again, it doesn't erase

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Speaker 5: what we saw, the inemptness of what we saw on

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Speaker 5: the Josh Freeman like passes that he threw early in

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Speaker 5: the game, in particular about his overall performances, Koc said

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Speaker 5: today that Paul Allen, I'm eager for the cement to

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Speaker 5: start drawing in terms of finishing the product. But I

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Speaker 5: mean there was there's something to be said about it, which,

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Speaker 5: of course naturally gets swept under the rug because the

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Speaker 5: Vikings didn't win the game because the Viking special teams

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Speaker 5: couldn't make.

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Speaker 2: A tackle well in the quarterback couldn't get the ball

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Speaker 2: in the end zone because he kept over throwing wide receivers.

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Speaker 5: So it should never have come down no special tea, No,

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Speaker 5: but it did. I mean that's the welcome to the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I mean that that's what happened. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying that. Of course McCarthy he was.

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Speaker 3: It was if he had played better, they would have

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Speaker 3: wanted to laugh.

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Speaker 5: Well I know about a laugher, but they would have

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Speaker 5: The Bears have been pesky to beat by any standards.

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Speaker 5: Uh and there you know, But yeah, I mean it was.

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Speaker 5: It was stunning. The first couple series I turned you

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Speaker 5: all these games, as you know, at first high pass

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Speaker 5: he threw to Jefferson or airmail that out of third

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Speaker 5: you know, kind of Murder's role of writers. I just

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Speaker 5: And that was that was what was going on. And

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Speaker 5: you see McCarthy walking off the field after the punt

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Speaker 5: team trots on and he's smacking himself in the helmet,

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Speaker 5: like what am I doing? And that went on and

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Speaker 4: But that's why they're the Bears.

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Speaker 5: They they managed to put their opponents in position to

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Speaker 3: They're seven and three, they're in first place.

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Speaker 4: Well they're the Bears, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Seven and three, and they're in first place. I know

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Bears John Detroit can't beat anybody. Their offense

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Speaker 5: I mean, golf looked awful.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe the Bears will win it, and then I'll be

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Speaker 5: happy about that if they win. I don't know when

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing Chicago experience some success.

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Speaker 3: I want the Bikes to win the division.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're going to have to rattle off on five

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Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that that.

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Speaker 5: The whole point was that I don't know if if

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Speaker 5: KOs found something in looking at McCarthy going, god, this

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to Well, you.

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Speaker 5: Can't pay, you can't play. No, we can't play for

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Speaker 5: the two minute off This is the old cliche. You

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Speaker 5: can't play your two minute offense tire game. No, I'm

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Speaker 5: not suggesting you can. But he did look more effective.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like the Bears were letting him march down

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Speaker 5: you know, Caleb Williams has to put themselves. He's got

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Speaker 3: Have you changed your mind?

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Speaker 2: When we were talking about the Vikings quarterback decision, there

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Speaker 2: were some people, including me, that thought we should have

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Speaker 2: kept Sam Darnold, or what with Aaron Rodgers. You said, nope,

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Speaker 2: gotta go with the youngster. Have you changed your mind

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: No, only because I still think that for years, the

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Speaker 5: fans in particular, everyone's been clamoring for a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We had one, Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 5: Well, we don't know if he was a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 5: don't know if he was a franchise quarterback. He had

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Speaker 5: then he becomes your franchise quarterback. That's someone you get

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Speaker 5: as a free agent to fill in the blanks and

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Speaker 2: And they traded for him, Yeah, I noally did, but

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Speaker 2: he was can trade for franchise trade for one.

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Speaker 5: Yes, But I'm not you're suggesting. I'm saying they sign

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Speaker 5: free agent. The Vikings have gone down that road many times.

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Speaker 2: So you think McCarthy's got a brighter future than Darnold,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he has a brighter here asking

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Speaker 2: the wrong questions.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm because here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he has a brighter future a

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Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. And we had him, and it could have

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Speaker 2: had him for one hundred million dollars, which was and

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Speaker 5: Would not have signed any of the other guys that

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Speaker 5: they signed, the guys that look at their offensive line,

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Speaker 3: Picks only guy. That and hard Grave finally has played

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Speaker 5: They you know, signing Cashman Van Ginkel. I mean, these

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Speaker 5: these have been signings that have been significant enough. I'm

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Speaker 5: just saying that in general.

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Speaker 2: Well, McCarthy turns into a franchise, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: pay him. Well, so you're gonna have to pay him.

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Speaker 2: If he you're gonna pay him over one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 4: That'd be a nice problem to have.

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Speaker 3: Three, you had the franchise quarterback after last year. He

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Speaker 3: took it to fourteen and three.

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Speaker 5: Well, there are a lot of circumstances, but that's a again,

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Speaker 5: you're identifying as a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got Seattle seven and three. He's been a

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Speaker 5: I just don't think it would have been a whole

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Speaker 5: that playoff game. How would they have change that they

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Speaker 5: that would have meant. I love Sam Darnald. I think

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Speaker 5: I don't know what McCarthy's going to be, but it's

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Speaker 5: it's going to be. I think what really killed him.

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Speaker 5: What was We've talked about this over and over again,

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Speaker 4: He brought up good points.

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Speaker 5: He said, McCarthy when he was at Michigan one of

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Speaker 5: didn't have to be play hero ball.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have to, I.

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Speaker 5: Know, but I'm just saying that it's added to the

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Speaker 5: plus the mechanics of what he's what he's not doing now.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand why mechanically he's having so much trouble.

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Speaker 5: Whether Kosi still talks about him, is that he's a

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Speaker 5: you think you'd see some improvement. And again the last

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Speaker 5: just got to play it through and and see where

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Speaker 5: to wait. It's difficult to tell people. But they made

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Speaker 3: Double thirteen fourteen past common Man Polgram. I think it

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're in too deep now. They got

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Speaker 5: I was out there and I thought over and over again,

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Speaker 3: He struggled last Yeah, they.

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Speaker 3: So it can go you the way. And it is

441
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 3: possible that McCarthy.

442
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: Figures things out game by game, gets a little bit better,

443
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: gets his eyes in his feet alime, which you probably

444
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,239
Speaker 2: should have learned at the IMG Academy about twenty years ago,

445
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: but apparently he didn't. And if you're able to do that,

446
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: maybe he will. But I think I think it's looking

447
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: more like there's a better chance he's going to be

448
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: more ponder light than he is.

449
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 5: I'm not willing to go down that road yet. I

450
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 5: just think it's far from a perfect science when you're

451
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 5: dealing with it. You can do all the scouting work

452
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 5: you want and all the testing and they do, and

453
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 5: the combines and the measurables and the rest of it,

454
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 5: and you still have to what. You can't figure out

455
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 5: how in real time how a young quarterback is going

456
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 5: to react. You can't duplicate that in any practice, in

457
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: any simulated game until a game situation when you know

458
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 5: you've got a three hundred pound lineman coming out trying

459
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 5: to tear your head off, and are you trying to complete,

460
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 5: you know, as getting getting the play call in. And

461
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 5: it's the complications of these offenses. You know, you have

462
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: to be cerebral enough to figure it all out. There's

463
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 5: a lot that goes into it. And you know, obviously

464
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 5: McCarthy's not ready for all of that just yet, and

465
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 5: that's what they're hopeful that he's going to figure out.

466
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: As this season goes along.

467
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 5: You've still got seven games left, seven long games left

468
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 5: to play.

469
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: And here go ahead.

470
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: Here are the Bryce Young numbers for this year, YEP.

471
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: Starting with the first game of the season against Jacksonville.

472
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: We'll go with yards TDS, interceptions and rating one four

473
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: one toudy two interceptions of forty nine rating against Arizona

474
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: much better three hundred and twenty eight yards, three toties

475
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: at pick, ninety point six against Atlanta one hundred and

476
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: twenty one yards passing, no tudies, no picks, seventy eight

477
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: point six against New England one hundred and fifty yards,

478
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: one tuty, no interceptions, eighty four rating against Miami one

479
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety eight yards, two touchdowns, one tuty in

480
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: ninety point seven rating against Dallas one hundred and ninety

481
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: nine yards, three touchdowns, an interception, A one fourteen point

482
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: eight against the Jets one hundred and thirty eight yards

483
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: with one toutty, no interceptions, eighty eight point four against

484
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: Green Bay three for only one hundred and two yards,

485
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: no tudies in interception, forty eight point three against New

486
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: Orleans one hundred and twenty four yards, no touchdowns, interception

487
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: for sixty two point eight rating.

488
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: Then last week is big game.

489
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: Four hundred and forty eight, three touties, no interception, one

490
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three point two those number.

491
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 3: That's an okay season at best. He's playing better than

492
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: he was. What does that say? That's I'm saying too

493
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 3: much know.

494
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 5: I I don't know how many other quarterbacks you could

495
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 5: probably who are contending type teams have pretty similar numbers.

496
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what Jordan loves numbers are right now,

497
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: and he's been up and down, and you know, we've seen,

498
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 5: like I said, I was reading an article today about

499
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts of all people, the Eagles, who have all

500
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: the poise of a champion and that ability to close

501
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 5: teams out, and we saw it again the other night

502
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 5: against the Kiddies.

503
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: Well, Jordan loves numbers are certainly better, I would think so.

504
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: For twenty four and twenty mane yards has fifteen touchdowns

505
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: and only three hundred seven.

506
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: Well, there you go.

507
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: The quarterback rating is one oh three point two. That's

508
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 3: the total.

509
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 5: These interceptions are also killing McCarthy and the fact that

510
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 5: the Vikings and we said it, I've said it over

511
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 5: and over again again. Sunday was another perfect example. You

512
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 5: lose the turnover ballot, you're probably going to lose the game.

513
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 5: And the Vikings just can't, for the life of them

514
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 5: create turnovers. They had one the Bears fumbled the ball away.

515
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: He's had eight turnovers the season, and five were against

516
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals, right, I think five in the Bengals game

517
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: thought for touchdowns and so otherwise, I think it's only

518
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 2: either three or four all year turnovers since then.

519
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't.

520
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 5: You know, you can't expect to win games like that

521
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: and you don't you lose a turnover ballet, you're gonna

522
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 5: lose most of those games. And you know, to have

523
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 5: McArthur even work with a short field just once in

524
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 5: a while would be refreshing. But the Vikings defense, you know,

525
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 5: they've gotten better, but they sometimes just luck and sometimes

526
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: it's just they haven't had the skill level to pick

527
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: off passes, and that's that's really hurting them.

528
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: It certainly isn't helping.

529
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: No, it is not.

530
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: Minnesota Golden Golf for football team.

531
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Speaker 1: They are.

532
00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: They've played three really quality teams and number one Ohio

533
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: State right got bead was forty two three. I think

534
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 2: played Iowa, who it wasn't ranked at the time.

535
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: I don't believe.

536
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: I think after that win they jumped to twentieth and

537
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: I think they maybe even eighteenth, but I think they're

538
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: in the top twenty, top twenty five. They got just

539
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: destroyed by Iowa and then they went to Oregon. They

540
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: did score a touchdown. Oh goody, but they got destroyed

541
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: by number eight. I think Oregon was radied at eight

542
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: point into that game. So again, when it comes to

543
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: playing the best teams in the conference, the golfers are

544
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: just woefully.

545
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

546
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 5: They're back in their back of their weight class this

547
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: week and though they're underdogs at regular field against Northwestern,

548
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 5: but the Iowa game sticks out again because the Golphers

549
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 5: have been competitive against the Hawkeyes. That game was just

550
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 5: I mean, from start to finish on national TV. I'm

551
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: still stunned by how nept Minnesota looked. I mean, I've

552
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 5: watched the Iowa play a couple of times and they've

553
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 5: had some success. They've lost a couple of games. I

554
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 5: think they also were but you.

555
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: Know they're.

556
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: They The Golphers made them look like a combination of

557
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: of the Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs and their

558
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 5: prime that day, I mean, Minnesota couldn't do anything right

559
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 5: that day. They and they just just got flat out

560
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: beaten every facet of the game, you know, losing at

561
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: Ohio State the way they did, and I was expecting

562
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: me again almost fill in the blanks with what happened

563
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 5: against Oregon last week, going on the road and playing

564
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 5: that team. Uh, you know that with their speed and

565
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 5: the kind of recruiting they're able to do compared to

566
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: the Gophers, it's it's a mismatch. But it's just these

567
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: these are the games again, like this week, we say

568
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 5: this over and over again. You know, they beat Nebraska,

569
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 5: that was their one big win if you want to

570
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: call it that. This is a game that they have

571
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: to find a way to win. It's like I said,

572
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: they're in back in their weight class and they you know,

573
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 5: in order to move the needle a little bit. You know,

574
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 5: when when beat Northwestern, they're a decent team, they're not

575
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 5: a great team. And the Gophers should be better than

576
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: this right now to capitalize on a game like this

577
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 5: and find a way to win this game. And I think,

578
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 5: you know, Wisconsin's gotten a little bit better. There's a

579
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: little more competitive, but they're not great. They got them

580
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: left on the schedule. Otherwise it's you know, Mini Key

581
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: Car Bowl again, whatever they're going to play in. And

582
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: you know, the recruiting seems to be going well and

583
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 5: signing different players. But I keep talking about how young

584
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: every year. It seems like the Goalers are the youngest

585
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: team in the college football year after year. And I

586
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 5: like the quarterback. I think he's got skill and I

587
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 5: think he could, you know, turn into a very very

588
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: good quarterback. But it's it's the other players around you

589
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: too that you just have to Darius Taylor is any

590
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 5: in one game, and unfortunately the young man can't stay

591
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: healthy and he's in and out of the lineup a lot.

592
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 5: Their defense is okay, quite perrich is. You know, it's

593
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: their big name on defense.

594
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: How would it be years he had has he been

595
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: I I think.

596
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 5: He's I think it's been okay. I don't think it's been.

597
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 5: I don't think it's been a standout year for him

598
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: in terms of, you know, he's he was going to

599
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 5: play more offense. I don't think he's played. Uh some

600
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: times I've been watching he hasn't had that much of

601
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 5: an effect on the the offense. Obviously playing defense, returning

602
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 5: punts and kicks, but you know, he hasn't had the

603
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: huge impact that Cooper Dejine had uh at Iowa just yet.

604
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: And again he's it's the second year. But yeah, it's

605
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 5: just these are the games, like on Saturday at the

606
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: golfers have to win.

607
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: They just do. If you want to be looked upon

608
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: as a team. That's you know, I say moving the

609
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: needle a little bit.

610
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: I don't think it matters.

611
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I may not.

612
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not gonna it's not gonna put him

613
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: in a better Bowl game at beating Northwestern. But it's

614
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 5: just but these are the games that you know, as

615
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 5: as a slight underdog, you know, you expect that Minnesota

616
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 5: should be better than if.

617
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: You are resign, if you're resigned to the idea that

618
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: we're going to be a middle of the pack Big

619
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: Ten team, which I am. I don't think we're ever

620
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: going to ever be any better than that, and even

621
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: more so now because of of of nil, because we,

622
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, don't generate the same amount of name,

623
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: image and likeness money as some of the other schools

624
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: do for whatever reasons. And they're there there there there

625
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: are many reasons why. But I never thought they would

626
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: get there even before that, because it's just I used

627
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: to go by historically. Now you can point to Indiana

628
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: and Wisconsin on a few occasions and other clubs. But yeah,

629
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: so if you beat Northwestern, okay, that's great, you know,

630
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: that's nice, But that doesn't to me move the Needle

631
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: and then who do they have after that?

632
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: They have Wisconsins. I think there's only two games left,

633
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: isn't it right? So you beat Northwestern and you beat

634
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: Wisconsin and you go to.

635
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: That would be six and three in the conference, I guess,

636
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: and eight and four overall. And okay, that's fine, But again,

637
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: are you in closer to taking that to really moving?

638
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: And it works like you know what, We're We're getting

639
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: closer to being able to go toe to toe with

640
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: the with the Ohio States, the Michigan's, the Oregons, and

641
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Iowa was in Penn State. Well Penn State was terrible

642
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: this year. But yeah, at that point, well, yeah, I

643
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: just don't see it right now, I don't.

644
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 5: See Well, you always look forward to, I mean, if

645
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 5: you're a big ten fan particularly, always look for to

646
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 5: the Ohio State Michigan game. And I was saying, most

647
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 5: of the time be a toss of a coin in

648
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: terms of really who's favorite this year? Mean, Ohio State's

649
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: got to be two touchdown favorites in that game when

650
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: they play Michigan. They may not be that high, but

651
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it just feels like it's going to be

652
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 5: a dominant type win for Ohio State. I know Michigan

653
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: will get up for the game. I don't even know

654
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: where the game is this year, if it's an an

655
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: Arbor or Columbus. But you know, Ohio State is clearly

656
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: the best team. And you know Ohio State in Indiana

657
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: on the proverbial collision course for the Big Ten championship

658
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: and obviously the playoffs as well. But you know, potentially,

659
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 5: and I think most people are faultue respect to the

660
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 5: buck Eyes. I think looking for Indiana to kind of

661
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: crack through and and continue on with the games in

662
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 5: Michigan this year, Ohio State is it? Yeah, well I

663
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 5: give them a fighting chance, but I don't think much

664
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: much difference.

665
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to talk about Sam Darnold and

666
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: his ghosts, I think Ohio State as.

667
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: Ghost Oh boy, did they ever?

668
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: I think?

669
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know again, you can use this if you want.

670
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: When Ohio State and that school up north get together,

671
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: you can throw the records out the window.

672
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: Normally you can.

673
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: I think you can. Yeah, I mean you could. Last year.

674
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ohio State was were they never won last year

675
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: when the two teams, but I think they were. I

676
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: believe in Michigan won the game. Yeah, So it could happen.

677
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 2: Did Ohio State win last year? They finally win last year.

678
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: I don't even recall anymore. I know that Day had

679
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: had his problems with them. Let me see if I

680
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: can find the score.

681
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, what they had talked about was that's the

682
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: way it is actually at at the Ohio. That's great

683
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: that you won the national championship, but you lost a missigan.

684
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: That's what That's all that matters. It really does carries.

685
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: It carries a lot of weight. Your golfer team five

686
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: of the last six, or I mean a Wolves team

687
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 2: five of the last six, well, all they do is win.

688
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: They're just gelling and stacking.

689
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 5: Me boy, well they're stacking against teams that you know,

690
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: are under five hundred. They haven't beat a team of

691
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: the winning record yet. And that's there's a lot more

692
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 5: to come with that. But we've also seen this team

693
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: stub its toe against these teams like well, Dallas Mavericks

694
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 5: have always been a really very good basketball team. Now

695
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 5: they're just a wreck and they're playing another one, uh,

696
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: the worst team, arguably the worst team in basketball tomorrow,

697
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 5: Washington is in town.

698
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: And these are teams you have to put away.

699
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it's you don't have to apologize for beating them,

700
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 5: but you'd be nice to beat a team of the

701
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: winning record.

702
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: I know they got a couple other games.

703
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: They got Phoenix's Friday night on the road, that's the

704
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 5: team of the winning record, and then next week they

705
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: got their first matchup on the road against the thun

706
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: which will be kind of their first big test of

707
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: the season. But yeah, I mean, it's you're getting Last night,

708
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't a banner game. Ian Randall and

709
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 5: Edwards I think were combined nine for thirty from the

710
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 5: field and they still won one hundred and twenty to

711
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: ninety six. Nas Reda is working into shape and looking

712
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 5: really good. I mean coming off the bench. You know,

713
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 5: he had his he had twenty two points and he

714
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 5: had twelve rebounds, and you know NAS's had, you know,

715
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: after some deep personal family issues, has been kind of

716
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 5: rounding into shape and playing better and getting some quality minutes.

717
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 5: And you know there's still I think you know, Rob

718
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: Dilliham played more, you know, and that's the advantage you

719
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 5: have to have when you play teams like this, as

720
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: you like to call them the Oswalds. You got to

721
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 5: get your bench some quality time on the court and

722
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: know who to count on when it's necessary.

723
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 3: Bear je is the coach doing that? Is he playing?

724
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

725
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: He last night?

726
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: They did.

727
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: Last night they did, but I mean not not until.

728
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't like all those guys were still

729
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 5: in single figures. I think for for well minutes, Jillian

730
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: played thirteen minutes up, Leonard Miller even played ten minutes.

731
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: And you know, but Clark is kind of a regular

732
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 5: off the bench. I wouldn't count him as a guy

733
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 5: that doesn't get playing time. He's almost their first guy

734
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: off the bench, not along with Nas. But yeah, they

735
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: put him away. And man, Dallas, what I mean Hooper Flags,

736
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 5: you know, a young, good looking player, but man, oh man,

737
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: they got a mess there right now, and that's why

738
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 5: they fired the GM and they got guys hurt.

739
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: Kyrie is still out.

740
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 5: And you know, they're four and four and eleven right now,

741
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 5: the Dallas Mavericks, and they've always been, you know, contending

742
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 5: team and right there at the the finish line, and

743
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: now they're the.

744
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: Wolves are beating the teams are supposed to be right,

745
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: but they're losing to to to the quality team.

746
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: And that's what has to change.

747
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: I lost to the Lakers. They lost to the Nuggets.

748
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: I lost the Lakers a second time. They they lost

749
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: to the Knickerbockers.

750
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: Yep, and then they.

751
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: And they lost to the Nuggets again.

752
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then they're they're they're being the MAVs

753
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: and the Kings and the Jazz and and those clubs.

754
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: That's again, you're supposed to do and they've not done

755
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 5: that the last couple of years. And situations which are

756
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 5: almost kind of embarrassing sometimes. But play eighty two of

757
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 5: these things and you're going to have bad nights, but

758
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 5: hopefully they'll be all take care of business. You know,

759
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: Washington's just awful. I don't even know how they can

760
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: feel the basketball team. I can't imagine going to a

761
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 5: game there. Just here's a couple of tickets go.

762
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm reminded by a couple of text messagers. Michigan did

763
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: win last year thirteen to ten. Because if you're a member,

764
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: there was there was the the rumor that if Ohio

765
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: State didn't then turn around and win the national championship that.

766
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: Day was going to get fired. Thay goodbye it because

767
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: he couldn't beat Michigan.

768
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: He could have beat that school up North and then

769
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 2: someone else said, last year was the big flag planting

770
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: fight after.

771
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: The Big Blue One, And I remember that now, Big Blue.

772
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: One at at the Ohio State and they went to

773
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: the center of the field to put their flag down,

774
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: and then that's when Ohio State players went berserk and

775
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: there was pushing and shoving in.

776
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: The hole the crazy.

777
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, it's you want Iowa planting their flag

778
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: and middle of running in Bank Stadium.

779
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: I think, uh, did you put up with that?

780
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: Mark?

781
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: Well?

782
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 5: I think a member of Wisconsins Wisconsin taking the acts

783
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 5: and pretending to chop down the goal.

784
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: I remember that.

785
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't like that one.

786
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: Of course, you didn't know you liked this wild club though,

787
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: now don't you?

788
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean once Halloween, once we got out of

789
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: the month of October tenby are we six one and

790
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: one in November?

791
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: Correct?

792
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

793
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: What do you think of him? Now you're gonna be

794
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: heading down to Saint Paul that.

795
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: You like in November to remember, there you go. You're

796
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 5: gonna head down eventually, Yeah, I hope. So it's kind

797
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 5: of busy right now, but a lot of holiday stuff

798
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: and everything. But to see the Springsteen movie last I

799
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: didn't watch the second of the Wolves game. What no

800
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 5: I was that I went to see the Bruce Springs movie,

801
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 5: which with a bunch of friends I was. I enjoyed

802
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: it a lot. Jeremy White, I think the guy, you know,

803
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 5: it's he was terrific as Bruce. And it's based on

804
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: his album Nebraska, and you know, the nineteen eighty two

805
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 5: album when he was really at his lowest point in

806
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: his life and dealing with a great deal of depression

807
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: and you know, kind of flashing back to how abusive

808
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 5: his father was, et cetera, et cetera. So it wasn't

809
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: just a you know, a love story about his Bruce's

810
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: music and how I turned into Bruce Springsteen. But yeah,

811
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: I I I enjoyed it. It was really well done,

812
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: kind of a different glimpse of him. Would you recommend

813
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: people go see it?

814
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: I would? I would.

815
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 5: I mean it's hard to I mean, I mean, you know,

816
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: you watch movies like that and I'm Rammy Mellick played

817
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 5: Freddie Mercury and you know, and in Queen from Queen,

818
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: but it's it's hard to play. You know, what's that

819
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: Shallow May played Dylan want of, you know, phenomenal performance

820
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: and I think Jeremy White's every bit as good as

821
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 5: a young Springsteen uh during this time in nineteen eighty

822
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: one eighty two and his ups and Islands. It's difficult

823
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: to kind of pull that off, to kind of suspend

824
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: your belief and realize you're you're watching an actor play

825
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: a iconic uh person like Bruce Springsteen.

826
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, I enjoyed it. It was it was It

827
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: was good.

828
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: What are your plans for this weekend?

829
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Then?

830
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: What do you what do you got going the rest

831
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: of the weekend?

832
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: This week?

833
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: I got a fashion show on Friday night with Fashion Well,

834
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 5: I'm involved when it's a it's a fundraiser for the

835
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: Minnesota it's the hospital. What am I thinking of? Masonic

836
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: Children's Hospital. Yeah, yeah, it's a big fundraiser. A lot

837
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: of a lot of people are being asked to model.

838
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: Are you modeling?

839
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: I'm modeling with Karen and for we're doing that right.

840
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: Bathrobes from I wish is that what you're modeling? Those

841
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: white bathrooms?

842
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: That's funny.

843
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 3: From the found that would be that would be you

844
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: know what we should have done.

845
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: I mean it's too we should we should walk out

846
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 5: with our dress clothes underneath and have the bathrobes on overneath.

847
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 5: That would be a as long as I live, I know.

848
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: So that's.

849
00:39:59,840 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: You.

850
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's on yeah, Friday night, Yes, I believe. So

851
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: I got to look at my all my calendar, you know. Yeah,

852
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: so that's going on Friday, and I don't know what

853
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: else is going on Thanksgiving. No, I'm I got my

854
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 5: show here. I I really don't travel anymore to these games.

855
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 5: So I got my pregame show to do on Sunday morning,

856
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 5: probably watching it, watching it from my friendly confines of

857
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: my home after the show is over at eleven. And

858
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 5: then Thanksgiving next week already, my goodness, Wow.

859
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay at Detroit and I don't know. I know

860
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: Dallas is in the other game, but I don't three

861
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: of them, but I don't know who Dallas is playing.

862
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 4: I don't either.

863
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't know there's an AFC game. I'm assuming I

864
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: don't know who's.

865
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 4: Playing either at Thursday night. That makes makes it difficult.

866
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: How about a Roger the broken left for wist he

867
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: will not need surgery.

868
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 5: According to the reports that I play, they play the

869
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 5: Bears this week, right, I think they you gotta play,

870
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: you don't you do?

871
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: Eat some dirt and rub some robo tustin left left wrist.

872
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: I had a quarterback last night check Sometimes it looks

873
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: like he's thawing with his left hand.

874
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: But you got to play them that game in Pittsburgh

875
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: or Chicago. I don't know.

876
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know it's a big one.

877
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: Are in first place and you're disjusting the.

878
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Speaker 4: Bear I'm not I'm not listening.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy for Kevin Warren and all all the folks

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Speaker 5: that were here from Chicago over the weekend. Courtney Cronin

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Speaker 5: and saw a lot of friends from Chicago work for

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Speaker 5: the Bears this weekend. I was very happy for him.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't happy for him anyway. Well, I wasn't happy

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Speaker 5: they won the game.

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Speaker 3: I think it sounds like you like this Bears cloth.

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Speaker 4: I like the people who work for the Bears. I don't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want them to win the game. Get my loyalties.

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Speaker 5: My wife works for the Vikings. I've been a Viking

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Speaker 5: fan longer a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's true too. We'll see you tomorrow two o'clock, right,

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Speaker 2: I will be here. Yes, that's the legendary one. Tanna

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Speaker 2: Be Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: A great job. You as well, we joy to visit

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Speaker 3: with you today. We're back tomorrow at twelve noon. Big

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Speaker 3: Ticket and Brett Blake Moore our next here on the fan.

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Speaker 2: God God, good night Books, and good night missus Calabashi.

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Speaker 4: We're heaving.

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Speaker 3: That's a bunch of my workee.

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