1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: All right, man, is kind of when I wanted to 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: start with this is you got the Broncos picking at 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: thirty sixty two ninety four. What are like position groups 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: maybe players, Like if you're like in the tiers of those, 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: knowing that you need probably a linebacker, inside linebacker. Yeah, 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: you need maybe a skill position player, whether you're running back, receiver, 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: right end, right, So of those top three picks, kind 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: of where do you where do you see the gaps 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: of the spots to maybe take the best advantage of that. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, when I do mock drafts and 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: get into the back end of the first round for 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: the Broncos, I'd love to get him an inside linebacker. 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: The problem is is that Sonny Styles and CJ. Allen 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: never make it to them when I'm doing the box 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: and so I think that, you know, I'll have mocks 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: right I do other positions for the Broncos, and they'll 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: be like, oh, we need linebacker, and it's like, well, 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm not just going to give you anybody, right, And 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: I think that the beauty of this for Denver is 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: that the linebacker class is uniquely deep this year. 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: It really is. 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: I think that that's what helps go into defense being 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: the strength of this draft, and so you could get 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: inside linebackers round two, round three, even for as late as. 25 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: They are picking. 26 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: So even though I know that that's one of their 27 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: more pressing needs, that's not where I typically look for 28 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: them in the first round. 29 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: Instead. 30 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you look at some of those 31 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: positions where they could get a little bit bigger, they 32 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: could get a little bit faster, whatever it is. Yet, 33 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: normally the running back class is a little bit tricky 34 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: because it's sort of Jeremiah Love and everybody else. 35 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: You feel good about that at number thirty, I don't 36 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: know if I do. 37 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: I feel like i'd feel a little bit better about 38 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: it again, second third round, there's some running backs to like, 39 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: but I think the value is a little bit more 40 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: appropriate there. And so that's why it's always a little 41 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: bit tricky because I would tell you that inside linebacker, 42 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: maybe running back, maybe tight end, dependent on kind of who's. 43 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: There for him. Like let's say Snik's gone. 44 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: Right, and then that's the thing is, like I like 45 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: the depth of this tight end class. 46 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: Do I like a tight end? Two? At thirty? 47 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Stowers is kind of interesting to me because he kind 48 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: of fills that joker role that everybody talked about with 49 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Sean Payton last year, where I know they've got Evan 50 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Ingram and he. 51 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: Sort of filled that. 52 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: But the long term answer for that to me kind 53 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: of is Eli Stouer. So if you think of him 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: that highly as a prospect, that's really kind of like 55 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: the player I feel like fits most for them at 56 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: number thirty instead of maybe pigeonholing those needs right there. 57 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: So I often find myself saying, Okay, if I'm Denver, 58 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: I really do kind of just want to take BPA 59 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: at thirty, knowing that I get running back and insidelinebacker 60 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: around two round three, because I think that's kind. 61 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: Of how the draft sets up for them to be 62 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: able to do that, and I love that. 63 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: People kill me though for the BPA conversation, I don't 64 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: think i've irasked you where do you come down on that? 65 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: So with BPA, it's obviously like every coach is right. 66 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: Like you'd love the flexibility to be able to do that. 67 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: And a long term outlook for the team is always 68 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: just getting more talent whenever you can. 69 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: But the fact of the matter is is. 70 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: That when you are Denver, you are in a winning windows. 71 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: So I think the more you are in your winning window, 72 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: the more responsibility you have to put the best team 73 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: out there and you have to supplement the holes the 74 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: way that you need to in free agency or is 75 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: good you possibly can with the salary cap that you have. 76 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: But the BPA conversation, it's not on the same playing 77 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: fields for a lot of teams. And that's why there's 78 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: no in my opinion, there's not just this like cookie 79 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: cutter blueprint for every team you just follow it no 80 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: matter what. 81 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: It's so much more fluid. 82 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: For example, like a team like the Jets, Jets are 83 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: a couple of years away, they're a full BPA team. 84 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Like just take whoever is the most talented player the 85 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Bronco is you know kind of are because every team 86 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: kind of is. 87 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: But at the same time, like, yeah, you need you 88 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: need to really think about it. 89 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Like if you go best player available at thirty, like 90 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: we just kind of outlined, like I like for Denver, 91 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: you then pretty much have to make it happen with 92 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: running back and linebacker soon after that, and. 93 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: You can still do that. 94 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: I think that's what people get a little bit worried 95 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: about is when you go PPA and you kind of, Okay, 96 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: maybe it's not this exact position of need, you still 97 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: have the opportunity. 98 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: To address that, the responsibility to do so just heightens. 99 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: So I think that's to me, the. 100 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: Team building conversations that you have with VPA. It's just 101 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: it's different. 102 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: For every situation. It really is. 103 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I agree with you, But then it gets into the 104 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: whole conversation of first first rounders start. And that's where 105 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fans, especially like last night was John A. Barn, Yeah, 106 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: who played limited snaps in a very loaded secondary, right, 107 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: people are upset. 108 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: About that, sure, and I can I can understand that 109 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: a little bit because but that's a little bit of 110 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: I think that sometimes not always, but sometimes a little 111 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: bit unfair when it comes to the hindsight, because you 112 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: might have needs manifest throughout the year. You did so 113 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: at the end of the year, you could say to yourself, like, 114 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: why we picked John ay Barron. 115 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: We could have picked this position because we were so 116 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 3: weak at it. 117 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: You could have, you know, the coaching staff could have 118 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: been like, we didn't think we were going to be 119 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: out week. 120 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: In that position. She kind of never know. 121 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: But like Barn for example, as a best player available 122 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: type of approach, like he might give them not just 123 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: flexibility in the secondary in his first and second year 124 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: because of what he could do as a safety, as 125 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: an outside corner, his then inside corner, all the kind 126 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: of stuff, but he also gives them the ability to 127 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: stay ahead of things contractually as well. Right, Like what 128 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: happens with Briley Moss. Okay, well, are you moving on 129 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: from him? You don't have to give him a. 130 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: Second contract because he's been a little bit up and down. 131 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: You're cool with moving Johnny Barron in that spot, probably, 132 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: And you've then got a cost controlled player at a 133 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: premium position at outside corner that you really need for 134 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 2: a team. 135 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: That's going to compete at the highest level to go 136 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: after a Super Bowl. 137 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: So I think a lot of things get layered into 138 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: that conversation, and look, generally, yeah, you want your first 139 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: round picks to be impactful. 140 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: They don't have to be impactful in year one depending 141 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: on what team they go to. 142 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: The Broncos you're a damn good team, right, I mean, 143 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: the Broncos have a really really good defense, a really 144 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: really good secondary. Most of the other teams in the NFL. 145 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: He's a starter and He's probably a starter for the 146 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: majority of the time that he's on there. The idea 147 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: with him is that you go, it's less of to me. 148 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: To me, first round picks are less of they've got 149 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: to start right away, and it's more of are they 150 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: two contract guys. I don't love the phrase. I don't 151 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: love the phrase, oh, you drafted me have for ten years? 152 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: Because what players you have for ten years? For Hall 153 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: of famers? 154 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: Right? 155 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I just said that this guys would be in 156 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, So like, I don't like using that. 157 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: I don't like using the ten year thing like some 158 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: people do. What I'd say is that if you are 159 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: picking a first round, first round player, they. 160 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: Need to be a two contract player for you. 161 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: You need to they need to be playing well, and 162 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: you need to be building around them to where you 163 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: are comfortable signing them to a second contract. That's how 164 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: I would view first round days, not as much of 165 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: they've got to play right away. 166 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: It's great if they play right. 167 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: Away, don't have to, but they do generally need to 168 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: be guys that you're given to second contracts. 169 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: Last one here for you and I always love having 170 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: you on. But I definitely wanted to get into some 171 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: of that because everybody, as we talk about this, I'm 172 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: fine if they don't going defense the first round, even 173 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: though it's a load of defense. Like you said, linebackers. 174 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: Certainly that everybody wants skill position. They want wide receiver, 175 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: running back, tight end, that kind of thing. For a moment, 176 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver, who are a couple of guys? 177 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: Let's you had to wait till day two? Okay, who 178 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: are a couple of guys? Day two? And beyond that 179 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: you kind of. 180 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think the wide receiver classes is pretty deep. 181 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean, like Elijah, I don't think he's going to 182 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: be athletic enough to be, you know, considered. 183 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: In the top forty. But I really like who he 184 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: is as a receiver. 185 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: I think he wins in the very subtle ways that 186 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: are translatable to the NFL. Really good off of his releases, 187 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: really creating that subtle separation. He's good as a contest 188 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: to catch guy. His team at Omar Cooper Junior are 189 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: like as well. But if you do, I mean we're 190 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: walking around here in India. Maybe he's gonna be your 191 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: first round pick the way people are talking about so, I. 192 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 3: Don't know, but those are two guys that I like there. 193 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: If you need a vertical stretching guy, I think that 194 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Chris Brasel's got some talent for you to be able 195 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: to do it. But of course, like I think the 196 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: Broncos have a lot of vertical stretching players on their team. 197 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: But like mal Chai Fields from Notre Dame is a 198 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: contest to catch guy, you know, Ted Hurst from Georgia 199 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: State is another contest to catch guy like these dudes 200 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: who are bigger can play on the line of scrimmage 201 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: for you, can play that X role. I think that 202 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: those are the guys that when I think of Denver, 203 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: I think of that. There's certainly tight end as well, 204 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: you know, like you look at some of the more 205 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: receiving tight ends I mentioned he lifest hours. Justin Jolie 206 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 2: from Enci states in the conversation as well, Michael Trigg 207 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: from Baylor, I think a lot of people have talked 208 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: about him as a Broncos sort of target for what 209 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: he could do as an athlete at tight end, but 210 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: that to me is sort of either a bigger receiver 211 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: or like a bigger tight end type of a player 212 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: that can play inside and out for you. 213 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: That's Those are some of the names that I look 214 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: at for. 215 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Some engineering price goes in the first round or around there. 216 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Who's whose Day two running backs you like? 217 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: I mean Jonah Coleman's my Jonah Coleman's my RB two 218 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: because I view him very similarly to how like Kirom 219 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: Williams is so effective with the rams, where like Jona 220 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: Coleman's not gonna run very fast. 221 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: I don't care. 222 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: I don't see him runing fasten his tape. He's not 223 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: good because he run fast. 224 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: He's good because of all the other stuff, the contact balance, 225 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: the yards after contact, the mistackles, force per attempt, all 226 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: that good stuff. What he could be as a receiver, 227 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: how he could play for you as a blocker on 228 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: third down situation. So I like him as RB two. 229 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: If you have a chance to get him. He could 230 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: probably need to take him in the second with that 231 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: late second round pick. But he's somebody who would be 232 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: in that conversation. But then the other name that I'll 233 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: throw out there is is Emma Johnson from Nebraska. 234 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, now he's he's similar to like R. J. 235 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: Harvey, So it's not like a smash and dash type 236 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: of a combination. But it is another player where if 237 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: you that archetype and that's the guy that you want 238 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: to bring in. I mean, he's got some very quick footwork. 239 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: He can make you miss in a phone booth. He's 240 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: very very quick. I'm very interested to see what he 241 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: runs and what his overall long speed is. But man 242 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: just consistently making guys miss this past season, really high 243 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: rushing grades from PFF because of it. The efficiency, the elusiveness, 244 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: all that is there for him. And so those are 245 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: two players who I think probably come to my mind 246 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: immediately when it's guys who I think can have an 247 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: impact right away you talk about you can talk about 248 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: some running backs a little bit like later in the 249 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: draft where it's like okay, like yeah, depth players, maybe they. 250 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: Turn out to be something for you. But those are 251 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: two I'd keep an eye on.