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Speaker 2: I am back after a wonderful European getaway to Rome,

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Speaker 2: It appears that the government shutdown is going to end tonight,

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Speaker 2: So of course Democrats have a brand new media narrative,

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Speaker 2: new Epstein emails that they claim directly implicate President Trump

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Speaker 2: it is impacting America's young adults and directly affecting America's politics, leading,

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Speaker 2: back to Wisconsin. The dpi's report card scam. Wisconsin's Department

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Speaker 2: In fact, pretty much much everything opponents of these data

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Speaker 2: consume about eight to ten percent of the electricity in

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Speaker 2: the United States. Now that sounds like a lot, right.

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Speaker 2: Air Conditioning consumes twelve percent of America's electricity today, So

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Speaker 2: when you turn on your air conditioning, you are contributing

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Speaker 2: to a bigger strain on the electrical grid than ai

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Speaker 2: data centers are projected to have in five years, when

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Speaker 2: there will be way more data centers in operation. Now,

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Speaker 2: the idea that they're spoiling the natural beauty of the

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Speaker 2: land is indeed a legitimate concern, and the one in

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Speaker 2: Caledonia would have, indeed, I guess, been put on farmland

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Speaker 2: that people didn't want in their backyard. This is a

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Speaker 2: classic NIMBI concern. The overwhelming majority of data centers in

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Speaker 2: the United States are actually in currently existing industrial parks.

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Speaker 2: We're not tearing down farmland, We're not paving paradise to

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Speaker 2: put up not a parking lot but a data center.

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Speaker 2: In fact, data centers right now currently occupy about zero

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Speaker 2: point zero two percent of commercial land. A one hundred

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Speaker 2: acre data center campus typically will employ five hundred high

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Speaker 2: skill jobs. What is the average salary at a data center, Well,

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Speaker 2: the median is about one hundred and ten thousand. And

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Speaker 2: there are always multiplier effects. When you get one hundred

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Speaker 2: two hundred, three hundred, five hundred people coming into an area,

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Speaker 2: you will get new restaurants, you will get new apartment buildings,

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Speaker 2: you will get development because there is more of a

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Speaker 2: demand for whatever it is. And yes, while data centers

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Speaker 2: typically will get tax breaks, property taxes still are massive.

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Speaker 2: In Louden County, Virginia, for example, which is turned into

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Speaker 2: a pretty big data center magnet, they are getting one

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Speaker 2: to three million dollars per acre in taxes every single year.

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Speaker 2: The reality is is that the data centers are going

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Speaker 2: to be built. They're going to be built somewhere, and

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Speaker 2: it is far better to who build them in a

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Speaker 2: of them, because companies are going to build them somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Could be in America, could be in Bangladesh. Frankly, given

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Speaker 2: the massive demand for AI and the manner in which

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Speaker 2: AI is very likely to revolutionize this country, I would

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Speaker 2: much rather have control over where the AI is powered

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Speaker 2: and where the data that powers it is stored. I

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Speaker 2: would rather have them in the United States. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Dan o'donald show Unhinged Lib. Next it is

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Speaker 2: the insanity of the last we.

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Speaker 4: Are is dangerous because he's evil America.

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Speaker 2: Today's unhinged liberal of the day is an unnamed staffer

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Speaker 2: in Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth's office who misrepresented himself as

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Speaker 2: get them released. According to a letter sent today to Duckworth,

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Speaker 2: ICE acting director Todd Lyons said the staffer told federal

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Speaker 2: staffer entered an ICE facility in Saint Louis, Illinois, October

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Speaker 2: twenty ninth, at approximately one twenty nine pm. An individual who,

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Speaker 2: according to publicly available information, is employed as a constitution

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Speaker 2: or excuse me, constituent outreach coordinator in your Senate office,

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Speaker 2: demanded to speak with his client. The staff member allegedly

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Speaker 2: his release from custody, and it by falsifying an official

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Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security form. He did all this to

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Speaker 2: try to get a four time deported drunk driving illegal

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Speaker 2: alien out.

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Speaker 1: Of ice custody. Who does he think he is?

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Speaker 2: Hannah Dugan, That unnamed Tammy Duckworth stafford. By the way,

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Speaker 2: that is a Fox News exclusive story exclusive to I

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Speaker 2: believe Bill Malugin. Yep, Bill Malugin, great reporter, broke that story.

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Speaker 2: He is your unhinged liberal of it. In two thousand

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Speaker 2: the implication of which could be even more dire. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the second hour of the Dan o'donald Show, The

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Speaker 2: to you in just a couple of minutes. Will also

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Speaker 2: bring you everything going on in Washington on a busy

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Speaker 2: day as the House is now debating ahead of a

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Speaker 2: vote tonight to end the government shutdown daily Trump date

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Speaker 2: coming off and at the end of this hour, folks,

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Speaker 2: I am telling you right now you are going to

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Speaker 2: phone on listening to us on the iHeartRadio app. The

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Speaker 2: a heartwarming story that just may leave you in tears.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to oversell it, but I am telling

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Speaker 2: you it's an incredible story about dedication to.

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Speaker 1: Someone some thing. If you will that this.

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Speaker 2: Person didn't even know, I'm telling you, if you are

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Speaker 2: an animal lover, if you are a lover of kids.

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Speaker 2: I had to read this email a listener sent me

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Speaker 2: three times because I just thought it was such a

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Speaker 2: great story. If I am being honest, I believe the

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Speaker 2: rest of the media will pick up on this story,

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Speaker 2: giving me no credit, of course, because I am going

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Speaker 2: to be the one to break it later on this hour,

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Speaker 2: and they are going to be You will see this

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Speaker 2: story on TV. This is a story that is going

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Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with politics other than it

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Speaker 2: as my younger son weirdly, he emailed me today and

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Speaker 2: he said, Dan, I've got to tell you this story.

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Speaker 2: I want to nominate this person for Unsung Hero of

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Speaker 2: the Day. I read the email and said, Wow, I

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Speaker 2: story is so good. Be sure to be listening to

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Speaker 2: the Unsung Hero of the Day later on this hour.

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Speaker 2: in the Fall Fortune Cash Contest in just a second. First, though,

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Speaker 2: it is the daily Trump Day.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired

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Speaker 5: of winning.

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Speaker 4: Trump just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration.

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Speaker 6: It's also a big win for the United States.

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Speaker 1: We have to keep winning. We have to win more.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna win more.

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Speaker 2: President Trump, drop Republicans in Congress or getting a win

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Speaker 2: of sorts, as the government shutdown is going to end

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Speaker 2: at some point tonight or more likely very early tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: The House is going to vote on the spending bill

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Speaker 2: that passed the Senate earlier this week. It will end

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Speaker 2: the longest federal government shutdown in American history. White House

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Speaker 2: Press Secretary Caroline Levitt in her press briefing this afternoon.

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Speaker 7: The Democrats dragged on the government shutdown for forty three days, the.

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Speaker 6: Longest shutdown in US history.

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Speaker 7: But tonight, thanks to Republicans, the White House is very

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Speaker 7: The damage caused by the Democrats with this reckless government

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Speaker 6: It is entirely the fault of the Democrat Party. Just

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Speaker 7: Hundreds of thousands of federal employees have missed their paychecks.

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Speaker 7: Tens of billions in wages and benefits were withheld, impacting

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Speaker 7: Nearly twenty thousand flights at airports across the country were

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Speaker 7: Vacations and work obligations. According to Airlines for America, and

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Speaker 2: President Trump will sign the bill reopening the government shortly

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Speaker 2: after tonight's House vote. It will fully fund the federal

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Speaker 2: permanent job cuts that President Trump enacted during the shutdown,

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Speaker 2: and nothing else, No Obamacare subsidies, nothing Democrats claimed that

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Speaker 2: a look at new leadership in the Senate now. Caroline Levitt,

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Speaker 2: the White House Press Secretary, also today took aim at

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Speaker 2: the new Epstein emails time to be released just as

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Speaker 2: the government reopens to take the focus off of how

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Speaker 2: badly Democrats got rolled, and she raised the point that

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Speaker 2: we discussed earlier. The redacted victim mentioned in those emails

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Speaker 2: is Virginia Giuffrey, who has repeatedly said President Trump did

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing untoward with any underage girl or anyone else.

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Speaker 1: For that matter.

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Speaker 7: This emails proved absolutely nothing other than the fact that

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Speaker 6: And what President Trump has always said is that he

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Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein was a member at mar A Lago until

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Speaker 7: President Trump kicked him out because Jeffrey Epstein was a

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Speaker 7: pedophile and he was a creep. In this email you

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Speaker 6: it Virginia Guphrey.

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Speaker 7: And it was CBS's own reporting WIJA that recently wrote

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Speaker 7: that President Trump was always extremely professional and friendly to her.

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Speaker 7: And so I think it's a question worth asking the

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Speaker 7: Democrat Party, and you should all go ask them after

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Speaker 7: this briefing of why they chose to redact that name

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Speaker 7: with us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to do that. They didn't do

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Speaker 2: that because the narrative is what matters. The real bombshell

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Speaker 2: out of the new emails that were released by the

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Speaker 2: Democrats on the House Oversight Committee today is that a

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Speaker 2: member of the media, Michael Wolfe, who has actually written

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Speaker 2: multiple books slamming President Trump, was colluding with Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: to try to blackmail Trump over their relationship. Nevertheless, expect

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Speaker 2: dem shut down surrender. Also at that White House press

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Speaker 2: briefing today, FBI Director Cash Petel announced that China has

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Speaker 2: agreed to TITAN regulations on the chemicals used to produce fentanyl.

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Speaker 8: People's Republic of China has fully designated and listed all

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Speaker 8: thirteen precursors utilized to make fentanyl. Furthermore, they have agreed

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Speaker 8: to control seven chemical subsidiaries that are also utilized to

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Speaker 8: produce this lethal drug. Effective immediately, Essentially, President Trump has

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Speaker 8: shut off the pipeline that creates fentanyl that kills tens

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Speaker 8: of thousands of Americans. These substances are now banned and

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Speaker 8: they will no longer be utilized by the Mexican drug

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Speaker 8: trafficking organizations or any other DTOs around the world to

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Speaker 2: Tell said that securing that agreement was the sole purpose

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Speaker 2: of his recent trip to China and comes to me

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Speaker 2: an apparent thawing in trade relations between the Chinese and

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Speaker 2: the US. China's role in the global fitanol trade has

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Speaker 2: long been a massive sticking point for the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: in those tariff negotiations.

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Speaker 1: Vice President J. D.

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Speaker 2: Vance interviewed today by Health and Human Services Secretary Bobby

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior at the MAHA Health Summit, and he discussed

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Speaker 2: the need for contrarians like Bobby Junior himself in the

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Speaker 2: scientific community.

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Speaker 9: There is no way that this country is going to

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Speaker 9: advance unless we're comfortable with people who are willing to

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Speaker 9: challenge orthodoxy.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I think got.

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Speaker 9: So broken, not just about the scientific bureaucracy, but probably

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Speaker 9: it was worse in the scientific area than in most

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Speaker 9: other places.

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Speaker 4: Is we've got to.

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Speaker 9: Be comfortable challenging some of these old orthodoxies. And part

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Speaker 9: of that is welcoming people who are a little unusual,

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Speaker 9: because unless you do that, like you're not going to

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Speaker 9: solve America's problems with Mackenzie consultants who say everything the

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Speaker 9: right way all the time, nose for the McKinsey consultants,

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Speaker 9: because many of whom are very brilliant people. But like

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Speaker 9: you need the consultant mindset, you also need the person

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Speaker 9: who is just thinking about an idea because it's interesting

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Speaker 9: and it's fascinating and it's not being focused on enough

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Speaker 9: in the right way.

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Speaker 2: Vice President Vance also today pledgs that the administration will

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Speaker 2: do all it can to negotiate more favorable deals with

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Speaker 2: drug companies to continue to drive down the cost of

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Speaker 2: prescription medication. New crime number is out of Chicago show

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Speaker 2: President Trump's federal crackdown on crime, dubbed Operation Midway Blitz,

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Speaker 2: has been a massive success.

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Speaker 1: Fox News with the report today.

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Speaker 5: Dan Chez putting a fine point on that, putting out

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Speaker 5: some more numbers, saying shootings, those shootings are down to

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Speaker 5: their lowest in four years, homicides down sixteen percent, and

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Speaker 5: transit crime is down twenty percent among the other numbers

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Speaker 5: going down now. These update includes a list the DHS

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Speaker 5: calls someone was violent criminal legal aliens in Chicago, which

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Speaker 5: include Victor Rosco, a criminally illegal alien from Mexico convicted

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Speaker 5: of first to remurder. This announcement comes weeks of chaotic protests, all.

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Speaker 2: dollar Mega Millions prize. Caroline Levitt also today answered questions

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Speaker 2: at the White House Press Briefing about the affordability issue,

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Speaker 2: which continues to rear its ugly head in President Trump's

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Speaker 2: second term. The president, of course, was elected largely because

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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's yes age and obvious mental incapacity, but

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Speaker 2: really because he and Democrats destroyed.

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Speaker 1: The economy with inflation.

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Speaker 2: He was elected on a promise to make America affordable again,

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Speaker 2: and Democrats, who for ten months have committed political malpractice

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Speaker 2: by not repeatedly hitting Trump on the fact that everything

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Speaker 2: is still insanely exc spens him. I got home yesterday,

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Speaker 2: for example, from five days in Roman, and we had

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Speaker 2: amazing food on our listener trip. I happened to see

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Speaker 2: an ad on the plane home that the McRib is

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Speaker 2: back at McDonald's now. I usually don't go to McDonald's ever.

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Speaker 2: Now that's not like a snobby thing. I love McDonald's,

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Speaker 2: but I'm also forty four years old and getting fatter

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Speaker 2: with each passing day. I can't eat McDonald's like I

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Speaker 2: did when I was a kid, or even in my twenties,

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Speaker 2: when you actually have a metabolism that can handle McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: So I said, you know what, I'm going to treat myself.

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Speaker 2: I want an all American meal. Since we have been

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Speaker 2: eating delicious Italian food for the last six days, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to McDonald's. The rest of my family was sound

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Speaker 2: asleep at about seven fifteen PM because Rome is seven

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Speaker 2: hours ahead of us, so my body right now thinks

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Speaker 2: it is one twenty am. So if I fall asleep

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Speaker 2: in the middle of a sentence, please forgive me. I

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Speaker 2: got a micrib Extra Value meal, and okay, I succumbed

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Speaker 2: to my inner fatty and also got a six piece

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Speaker 2: chicken McNuggets. It was eighteen dollars. Eighteen dollars. I was

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Speaker 2: looking at the menu, the value meal. Do you remember

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Speaker 2: when they had the extra value meal and you could

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Speaker 2: get a double cheeseburger for a buck. Double cheeseburger now

747
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Speaker 2: is three dollars and ninety nine cents. McChicken used to

748
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Speaker 2: be a dollar. This wasn't you know, back when dinosaurs

749
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Speaker 2: roamed the earth, back when I was in high school

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Speaker 2: or college. This was like three four years ago. McChicken

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Speaker 2: is now two dollars and forty nine cents. If that's

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Speaker 2: a value meal, I would hate to see what a

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Speaker 2: regular priced double cheeseburger would be. We have an affordability

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Speaker 2: crisis in this country, ladies and gentlemen, and the President

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Speaker 2: has in fact done all he can to bring down

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Speaker 2: the price of as much as he can. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Levitt during the White House Press briefing today, outlined just

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Speaker 2: what the president has done to try to bring down

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Speaker 2: President Trump and.

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Speaker 7: His administration have done so much to lower prices and

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Speaker 7: increase the economic prosperity of the American people, and this

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Speaker 7: president and his team of amazing economic advisors are going

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Speaker 7: to keep.

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Speaker 6: Working on this issue every single day.

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Speaker 7: In less than ten short months, President Trump signed the

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Speaker 7: largest middle class tax cuts in American history, including no

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Speaker 7: tax on tips, over time and Social Security, which will

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Speaker 7: guarantee that next year Americans are going to put more money.

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Speaker 6: Back into their pockets.

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Speaker 7: The President has completely unleashed American energy dominance to help

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Speaker 7: bring gasoline prices to the lowest in five years, and

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Speaker 7: we expect them to continue to decrease, and it has

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Speaker 7: also lower energy costs overall.

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Speaker 6: There is more work to do.

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Speaker 7: But again, the President's deregulatory and pro American energy agenda

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Speaker 7: is absolutely going to continue to drive down prices. This

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Speaker 7: formula worked in the President's first term, and we expect

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Speaker 7: that it's going to work again.

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Speaker 2: Well, this may be true, there is one area that

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Speaker 2: is sort of dominating all others when it comes to

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Speaker 2: what really isn't affordable most people can afford an eighteen

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Speaker 2: dollars meal at McDonald's. The people who are more likely

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Speaker 2: to eat at McDonald's though, people who are younger have

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Speaker 2: less money, people who have lower incomes. It's putting a

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Speaker 2: strain on them. But what they're really not able to

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Speaker 2: afford at all anymore is a home. This is causing

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Speaker 2: a crisis that is having effects that people might not

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Speaker 2: think of. It appears now that after last week's elections,

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Speaker 2: the socialist candidate in Seattle is going to win the

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Speaker 2: mayor's election, unseating Bruce Harral, a left wing Democrat to

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Speaker 2: be sure, but not out socialist. Socialist candidate is going

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Speaker 2: to win. Of course, it's a left wing city and

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Speaker 2: there's a socialist on the ballot, meaning it takes a

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Speaker 2: week to count the ballots. Wouldn't you know it, The

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Speaker 2: socialist has gained a whole lot of votes in the

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Speaker 2: week since election day. This follows an open communist being

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Speaker 2: elected in New York City. How did we get to

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Speaker 2: this point where Bernie Sanders is one of the most

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Speaker 2: popular politicians in America. I would pause it that a

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Speaker 2: big reason is because young people the most likely to

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Speaker 2: be open to socialists and communists running their lives can't

802
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Speaker 2: afford home anymore. According to the National Association of Realtors,

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Speaker 2: the median age of first time home buyers is now

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Speaker 2: forty years old. Compare that to a generation and a

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Speaker 2: half ago nineteen eighty one, where the average home buyer

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Speaker 2: first time was twenty nine. Overall buyers two. The median

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Speaker 2: age of your average home buyer median age of all

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Speaker 2: home buyers in the United States, including those who are

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Speaker 2: buying a second home or a third home.

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Speaker 1: You know you move.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about multiple residences. I'm talking about anybody

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Speaker 2: who is buying a home in the United States. The

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Speaker 2: median age right now is fifty six. First time home

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Speaker 2: buyers are now just twenty one percent of the market.

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Speaker 2: That's down from forty percent just seventeen years ago before

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Speaker 2: the housing bubble burst in two thousand eight. The reason

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Speaker 2: homes are no longer affordable. In nineteen eighty, the median

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Speaker 2: home price was forty seven thousand, two hundred dollars. Today

819
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Speaker 2: it's four hundred and fifteen thousand. Now you might be saying, well, Dan,

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Speaker 2: that's just inflation. People in nineteen eighty weren't making nearly

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Speaker 2: as much money that's true. Median household income was seventeen

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars back in nineteen eighty. Today it's seventy four thousand.

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Speaker 2: But the median home price back in nineteen eighty was

824
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Speaker 2: roughly three percent, or three times the median household income. Today,

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Speaker 2: the median home price is eight times the median annual income.

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Speaker 2: The house price to income ratio has nearly doubled since

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. Younger buyers now need massive down payments a

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Speaker 2: record nineteen percent of the price of the home. That's

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Speaker 2: seventy nine thousand dollars that someone needs to come up

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Speaker 2: with in cash. National Association of Realtors now notes only

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Speaker 2: one in seven renters actually earns enough money to qualify

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Speaker 2: for a median priced home today, Ladies and gentlemen, this

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: is an absolute crisis and it is impacting everything. Why

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Speaker 2: young Americans are waiting longer to start families, why they

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Speaker 2: are waiting longer to move out of their parents' home,

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Speaker 2: and why they are increasingly turning to socialism. The new

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Speaker 2: housing crisis. It's a big investigation here on the Dan

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Speaker 2: O'Donnell's show. We will get into it in just three minutes.

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Speaker 2: America's new housing crisis. Home ownership is largely unaffordable to

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Speaker 2: anyone under the age of about forty. That's why the

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Speaker 2: median age of first time home buyers is now forty,

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Speaker 2: up from twenty nine in nineteen eighty one. Now, a

843
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Speaker 2: common refrain for people who bought homes for the first

844
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Speaker 2: time in the nineteen eighties is that, well, our mortgage

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Speaker 2: rates were much more expensive, and that somehow is making

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Speaker 2: up the difference. In fact, every time I talk about

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Speaker 2: this sort of thing, I will invariably get somebody who

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Speaker 2: says that, in fact, I got two on our adventnows

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Speaker 2: dot com talk and text line. In the nineteen eighties,

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Speaker 2: thirty year mortgage rates peaked at about thirteen percent. Homes

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Speaker 2: were a lot cheaper, though two point seven times the

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Speaker 2: median annual income. Monthly payments therefore averaged about thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of someone's annual income. Now mortgage rates are six to

854
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Speaker 2: seven percent, but combined payments now average thirty one hundred

855
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Speaker 2: dollars per year. That is roughly fifty percent of income

856
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Speaker 2: for many young households. The burden of housing costs for

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Speaker 2: young people is astronomically higher than it was in the

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Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties, student loans average about thirty seven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Per bout borrower.

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Speaker 2: Moreover, rents are up twenty percent from twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 2: those eat into savings. The National Association of Realtors says

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Speaker 2: these are the top two barriers to home buying student

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Speaker 2: loan debt and high rent, neither of which were a

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Speaker 2: problem generations ago. College was insanely affordable, so two were

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Speaker 2: cheaper apartments. Not only that, the US is now short

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Speaker 2: about three to five million homes. The two thousand and

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Speaker 2: eight housing bubble decimated housing supply. There were about I

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Speaker 2: would say, give or take a million new housing starts,

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Speaker 2: meaning apartment buildings going up, new houses, new neighborhoods, about

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Speaker 2: a million in twenty twenty five. In the nineteen eighties

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Speaker 2: housing boom there were about two million housing starts per year. Moreover,

872
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Speaker 2: baby boomers in particular, but older buyers generally median age

873
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: of about sixty three. Now, for your average home seller,

874
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: they have give or take three hundred thousand dollars on

875
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: average inequity, and they can therefore make all cash offers,

876
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: which first time home buyers simply cannot. Competition from older

877
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: buyers and baby boomers, in particular, who are not moving

878
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: out of their houses at the same rate at the

879
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 2: same age that their parents' generation the World War Two

880
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: so called Greatest generation did, or generations before them, who

881
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: quite simply died a lot sooner than modern day older

882
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: people because of massive advancements in medical technology. As a result,

883
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: people are living in their homes longer. Not only that,

884
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: though baby boomers are unique in that they're not going

885
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: to retirement communities, they are not downsizing at the same

886
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: level that prior generations did where they would go get

887
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: a condo in Florida or something like that. They're keeping

888
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: the big house and also buying condos in Florida. One

889
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: of the biggest drains on supply, though, has been you

890
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: guessed it.

891
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: Immigration.

892
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: Net immigration, both legal and illegal, has surged to two

893
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: point seven million in twenty twenty two and three point

894
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: three million in twenty twenty three. Pre twenty twenty, pre

895
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, we had about one million people in net migration.

896
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 2: That is more people coming in than who are leaving.

897
01:02:54,040 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: That is added roughly five hundred thousand extra households per year. Now,

898
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: new immigrants, especially illegal ones, they don't buy houses. They

899
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: rent ninety percent of households headed by recent arrivals, those

900
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four are renters.

901
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: Now this floods the rental market. The Center for Immigration

902
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: Studies finds a five percent increase in recent immigrants to

903
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: a given area correlates with a twelve percent rise in

904
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: rents for American born households in affected metro areas. We've

905
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: seen a much bigger than five percent increase in recent immigrants.

906
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: In fact, the Urban Institute in twenty nineteen, before the

907
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: massive Biden wave of illegal immigration, found that a one

908
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: percent immigrant population increase in a given metro area correlates

909
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: to one percent higher rents and prices. One percent rent

910
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: hikes are also found in neighboring areas, as natives say,

911
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: New Yorkers relocate to the verbs as or other metros

912
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: other burrows as illegal immigration spikes crime rates. Now, immigrants

913
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: boost demand, but there's no correlating increase in supply. Again,

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: one million housing starts per year since two thousand and

915
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: eight two million in the nineteen eighties. We need right

916
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: now between one point five million and two million housing

917
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: starts per year just to keep up with the dramatic

918
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: increase in immigration. You combine this with the fact that

919
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: hedge funds, private equity firms, and other corporationsations are buying

920
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: up housing supply to rent either homes out and other

921
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: homeowners are turning their houses into airbnbes or other rental

922
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: properties vacation rentals in areas of Florida and touristy locations.

923
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Speaker 2: For example, we just got back from Rome. Rome is

924
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: getting unaffordable largely because most people, most local Romans don't

925
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: actually live in the city anymore. They turn their apartments

926
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: and there are no houses pretty much in the Roman

927
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 2: city limits all apartments because they've had to keep the

928
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: city as it was since the Renaissance because of historical preservation.

929
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: They're all renting their places out. They're all permanent airbnbs.

930
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: We found the exact same thing when we went to

931
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Speaker 2: Venice a year or so ago. Nobody lives there because

932
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: it's simply unaffordable because you are competing with people who

933
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Speaker 2: are using their homes, or you are competing with companies

934
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: who are using homes to generate income. When there isn't

935
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Speaker 2: supply and there is an increase in demand, price massively

936
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: goes up.

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Speaker 1: So how is.

938
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Speaker 2: This impacting politics? How is this turning a generation of

939
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 2: young people I fear into socialists or even worse communists.

940
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Speaker 2: We'll explore when the Dan O'Donnell show returns. Housing is

941
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: the number one trigger for young people to start thinking, Hey,

942
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: maybe those communists are onto something.

943
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: Think about it.

944
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: Young people get out of college and they make a

945
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: good salary, but they can't afford a home. Not a

946
01:06:52,800 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: McMansion or an awesome house, but a starter home. That

947
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: gets them thinking, Hey, I did everything right, but it's

948
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: the system that's broken and capitalism itself has failed me.

949
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: A Harvard Youth poll released this spring found sixty two

950
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: percent of eighteen to twenty nine year olds believe quote

951
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: capitalism does more harm than good. In twenty sixteen, same

952
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: question was asked, forty two percent of eighteen to twenty

953
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: nine year olds said the same thing. That's a twenty

954
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: point gap in nine years. Top reason stated today that

955
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: capitalism does more harm than good. According to young people, quote,

956
01:07:52,800 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 2: housing is unaffordable for regular people. According to a Pew

957
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: Research survey in nineteen ninety, people under thirty asked does

958
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: hard work guarantee success? In nineteen ninety, sixty eight percent

959
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,480
Speaker 2: said yes, hard work guarantees success.

960
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: What is success?

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Speaker 2: Well, I would define success as being genuinely happy in

962
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: who you are. You have great relationships with your family

963
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: and friends and loved ones. You do something that you're

964
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Speaker 2: passionate about, and you have a nice home, a home

965
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Speaker 2: that you can be proud of. Right, the traditional definition

966
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: of success is what the American dream. Right, the wife,

967
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: the kids, the dog, the picket fence.

968
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Speaker 1: In the suburbs not affordable.

969
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: Sixty eight percent of people under thirty said hard work

970
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: guarantees success in nineteen nine. Do you know what the

971
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: percentage is today? Twenty six percent. If you're wondering why

972
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: so many people in twenty twenty four flocked to Donald Trump,

973
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 2: it wasn't because the under thirty crowds suddenly became way

974
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: more conservative, although I do fundamentally believe that this may

975
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: be the most conservative generation in decades. It's because they

976
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 2: couldn't afford their lives under Joe Biden. Number one reason

977
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: young people said they voted for Trump was to tear

978
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: down the system. Was to make things affordable again, make

979
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: America great again, make America function properly again. Inflation in

980
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: the Biden era largely driven by government handouts and a

981
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,839
Speaker 2: massive increase in immigration, both.

982
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: Legal and illegal, which.

983
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 2: Caused a sudden competition for every single resource imaginable.

984
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.

985
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, ten million people are here that

986
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: weren't just a couple of years ago. We still have

987
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: fundamentally the same number of apartment buildings, fundamentally the same

988
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: number of houses, but now we have ten million more

989
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: people all competing with them. What do you think that

990
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: does to the price of those housing units. What do

991
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 2: you think that does to the price of eggs, of coffee,

992
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: of bacon, of everything. Now imagine that all of the

993
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: people coming in are also getting payments from the government

994
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: that entices them to come in. Now, add to that,

995
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 2: people are living a whole lot longer than they used to.

996
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 2: So your average baby boomer at age seventy four isn't

997
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: going to sell their house. They're in great shape. They're

998
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: planning on living another twenty years. And oh, by the way,

999
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: their kids and grandkids really can't afford to own a

1000
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: house of their own. So mom and dad, grandma and grandpa,

1001
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: they still have to host Thanksgiving and Christmas. And those

1002
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: young people who are getting squeezed out of housing, by

1003
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: all of these downward pressures are all of a sudden

1004
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: taking a look. They're taking a look at Donald Trump

1005
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, he's promising to do something. He's promising

1006
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: to get rid of all of these illegals who are

1007
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: competing with me for those resources, whether it's jobs, whether

1008
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: it's housing, or whether it's basic necessities. And in nine

1009
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: ten months I haven't seen any results. Now we've got

1010
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: this guy in New York City who's promising to take

1011
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: care of everything, to freeze rent, to make sure that

1012
01:11:55,880 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: housing is a basic human right, and I am guaranteed

1013
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 2: to have the apartment or condo or home of my dreams.

1014
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: It's very enticing, and it's the biggest reason that we

1015
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: have a generation of people who view politics not through

1016
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: the prism of ideology or philosophy, but as a purely

1017
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: transactional proposition. I will vote for the person who is

1018
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 2: going to promise to make my life better, as rush

1019
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: Limblaugh very famously said when Barack Obama won a second

1020
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: term in a Nation of Children, Santa Claus wins, when

1021
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: you have got government, and you have got people who

1022
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 2: want to be elected to government promising to give people

1023
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: who truly feel like they have done everything right but

1024
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: simply can't get the American dream. It's more elusive than

1025
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: ever before. That becomes very seductive to them. That's why

1026
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: this housing crisis is threatening to reshape everything in this

1027
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: country if President Trump and Republicans don't.

1028
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: Act and act fast.

1029
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: This, I believe, is one of the biggest, if not

1030
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: the biggest issues facing this country, the housing affordability crisis

1031
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 2: that has priced pretty much everybody under the age of

1032
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 2: forty out of home ownership. We, as you might imagine,

1033
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time on this, the New Housing Crisis,

1034
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 2: a special investigation. We do have three minutes left in

1035
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: this hour. Normally at the end of the four o'clock

1036
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: hour we do the Unsung Hero of the Day. We

1037
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: sort of developed this earlier this year as a companion

1038
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: piece to the unhinged Liberal of the day. Libs always

1039
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: do insane, crazy things, and we wanted to highlight people

1040
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: who do the right thing.

1041
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: Folks.

1042
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: This story is so good I want to do it

1043
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: justice and want to devote a little bit more time

1044
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: to it because it is, honest to goodness, everything that

1045
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,520
Speaker 2: is right about humanity. I think I have sufficiently depressed

1046
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: everybody by talking about the fact that many of your children,

1047
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: or many of you listening, if you're in your twenties

1048
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: and thirties, will never be able to afford your own home.

1049
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna uplift you at the beginning of

1050
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour. I am telling you, folks, you

1051
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: are not going to want to miss this story. It

1052
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: is from right here in Wakshaw County. I believe it

1053
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: is near Slinger. Let me see where the emailer siting

1054
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: with Near Lisbon, excuse me, near Lisbon. It comes to

1055
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: us from the Twin Pines neighborhood, and it is all

1056
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: about the love people have for their neighbors, even complete

1057
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: strangers and puppies. Now, if that doesn't tease you to

1058
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 2: I want to listen after the five o'clock news.

1059
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what well.

1060
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, we also have one thousand bucks

1061
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: on the line in our Fall Fortune Cash contest. We

1062
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: will play one final time today here on the Dan

1063
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: O'Donnell Show. But to wrap things up on the housing crisis,

1064
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: and I suppose we will be talking about this extensively.

1065
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: I may at some point this week just open up

1066
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: the phone lines on this because it is such a

1067
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: big topic coming up next hour. I also want to

1068
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 2: talk with Josh Showman, Washington County Executive Republican candidate for governor,

1069
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: because he unveiled a sweeping plan to overhaul elections here

1070
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. I want to highlight that we're going to

1071
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: talk with Josh, coming up in about twenty twenty five

1072
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: minutes somewhere in there. And we also have to get

1073
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: to a vote set on a bill that I've been

1074
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: telling you about for two weeks, if not three, on

1075
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Speaker 2: giving a cartel power to the Native tribes on sports betting.

1076
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Speaker 2: All of that coming off right here on the Dan

1077
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: o'donald's show. It's a story about kids, puppies helping neighbors

1078
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Speaker 2: in need.

1079
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: It is one of the best I have gotten.

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Speaker 2: The unsung hero of the day coming up in just

1081
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: a second. First though, on the Dan o'donald's show. Your

1082
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: five o'clock keyword in the Fall Fortune Cash Contest dollar

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1084
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Speaker 2: You have got until five fifty five this evening to

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Speaker 2: enter the contest for this hour.

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01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: If your entry is picked at.

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01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: Random, one thousand of those dollars in your pocket.

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: All right.

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: We have been teasing this all afternoon, and I promise

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01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 2: you it is worth it. Ladies and gentlemen, it is

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01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 2: time now to name the unsung hero of the DWN.

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 2: Today's unsung Hero of the day is Chris Berger, who

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01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: lives near Lisbon, specifically in the Twin Pines Farm neighborhood,

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 2: and I received the following email from her neighbor.

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: A man whose name is Chris.

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't want to give you his full name,

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: but I kind of already spoiled. It's the same. He

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01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: has the exact same name. Is my son as well

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: as a famous actor. This comes from Chris O'Donnell, Not

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: my teenager, not the guy who played Robin in the

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01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,919
Speaker 2: Batman movies, but the Chris O'Donnell from near Lisbon.

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01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: Here's what he writes, Dan, I would like.

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: To nominate Chris Berger as your unsung hero of the day.

1106
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: A family from a close by subdivision had a six

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01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: month old puppy run away as they brought him home,

1108
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 2: he never even made it into the house.

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,480
Speaker 1: After four cold.

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: Nights on the run, without food, water, shelter, and in

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01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: danger of cars and coyotes. Chris woke up yesterday morning

1112
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: on a mission to catch Tom, the puppy who was

1113
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: seen in her backyard and get him back to his

1114
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: forever home. She contacted the local Humane Society for advice,

1115
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: and on that advice, went to the Humane Society, put

1116
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 2: a deposit on a live trap, bought bacon, vienna, sausage,

1117
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: and liquid smoke to lure Tom into the trap. Meanwhile,

1118
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: she contacted a friend who had a drone with infrared

1119
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: technology to identify heat. She then put a message out

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: onto our Twin Pine Farm's Facebook page asking for volunteers

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01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: to to help the drone footage, help view it and

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: work on getting Tom. My wife and I went to volunteer,

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: not knowing Chris or anyone else who showed up. Another

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01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: person also showed up with another drone two and we

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: were all on her driveway reviewing the drone video and

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: we heard him. We went into the trap. He ate

1127
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: the sausage, but the trap did not close. We reset

1128
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: the trap and left numerous treats to lure Tom back.

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01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: He came back as we were all there on Chris's driveway.

1130
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: We all got down on the ground.

1131
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: Chris grabbed a bag of bacon and threw a few

1132
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 2: pieces in his direction. He took some ate it, and

1133
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: as she was now lying on the driveway, Chris was

1134
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: able to keep throwing bacon closer to her until he

1135
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: was so close she could grab his paws. As she

1136
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 2: did this, myself and one of the drone operators pinned

1137
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: Tom down and grabbed control of him while Chris got

1138
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: a lead on him, opened her heated garage and we

1139
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: brought him inside where he was safe. She got him

1140
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: additional food and water as he began to relax, eat

1141
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: and drink. An hour later, he was reunited with his

1142
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: forever home. If it was not for Chris Berger, who

1143
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: knows when Tom would be caught and safe, she deserves

1144
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: all the credit for catching Tom the puppy, and for

1145
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: that reason, I think she should be your unsung hero.

1146
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 1: Of the day. I told you it was an.

1147
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: Incredible story, Chris Berger, not just your unsung hero of

1148
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: the day, but someone who should be an inspiration to

1149
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: neighbor everywhere. Kudos to you, Chris, and to you other

1150
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: Chris O'Donnell for telling me about this story, which to

1151
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 2: me was truly incredible. Now I myself have a six

1152
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: month old puppy by the name of Buddy. It sounds

1153
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: to me like Tom. The puppy is an enormous puppy.

1154
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: Our puppy is currently about three to four pounds. We

1155
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: got him, I think he was about a pound maybe two.

1156
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: He's a little teddy bear puppy. It's a mix of

1157
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: a be Shon Frieze and a Chitsu. It is about

1158
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: the most fruit fruit dog you can possibly get. Yes,

1159
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 2: my daughter and wife won the battle over.

1160
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1161
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: I had long resisted getting a puppy, but we just

1162
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 2: brought him home the Friday before Labor Day. So we

1163
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: got him when he was two months old. He is

1164
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 2: not yet, he'll be Oh my gosh, he'll be six

1165
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 2: months old on Christmas. He was born on June twenty fifth,

1166
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: so we got him about as young as you possibly

1167
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: could get him.

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01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine if he ran away.

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01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: Before we actually drove to the breeder's house, it was

1170
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: about three plus hours away. The entire family got in

1171
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: the car. I actually took off of work, worked out

1172
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: since I got a four day weekend out of it,

1173
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: and then we drove him back, playing with him the

1174
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: entire time.

1175
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: If we didn't even get him into the house and

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: he took off.

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01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: Now, Buddy is the epitome of an inside dog. He

1178
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: would be way too scared to run away. He doesn't

1179
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: even like walking. We put on his little leash and

1180
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: we'll try to go for a walk outside of our neighborhood.

1181
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 2: He'll just lay down in the middle of the street.

1182
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: He's having none of it. The only time he will

1183
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: walk is when he's walking back to the house. So

1184
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: no danger of Buddy boy running away. But I couldn't

1185
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 2: imagine that pain. I couldn't imagine that hurt for that family,

1186
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: and for Chris to do that for someone she did

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01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: not know. She just happened to see the dog on

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: I would presume a ring, doorbell camera or something like that.

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01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, for anyone else in the media

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: who is looking to contact this person to try to

1191
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: do this, it is a great feel good story. It's

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01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: from near Lisbon, and please contact me. I will gladly

1193
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: give out the contact information of the gentleman who emailed me.

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01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 2: I don't have anything beyond his email, and I guess

1195
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 2: in that sense, I wouldn't be able to verify it's true,

1196
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: except I've got a first person account and he said,

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01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: I don't want any credit.

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01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 1: It was all Chris Berger.

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01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just and maybe it's because we

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: just brought home a new puppy, but I just think

1201
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 2: that is an incredible story. Don't you, even if you

1202
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: don't have a dog, even if you don't have a pet,

1203
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: even if you don't have a kid, even if you've

1204
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: never brought home, if you've never experienced the joy of

1205
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: bringing home a new puppy, or a new kitten, or

1206
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 2: even a new gerbil, a new goldfish. All those of

1207
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: you who are unlucky enough to have your kid win

1208
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: a goldfish at the summer carnival, even if you've never

1209
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 2: experienced that, To just have that level of love and

1210
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: dedication to your fellow human being, to do that for somebody,

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01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: that is very, very cool. Kudos to you, Chris Berger,

1212
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: all right. The House of Representatives is expected to follow

1213
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 2: the Senate's lead tonight and pass a government funding bill

1214
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 2: that would end the longest federal shut down in American history.

1215
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: It also includes a provision that's going to close a

1216
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: loophole in the twenty eighteen Farm Bill, which legalized the

1217
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: sale of hemp derived THC products nationwide. It's been known

1218
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: since as the Farm Bill loophole, and it makes it

1219
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: federally legal to sell any hemp derived THHC products if

1220
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: they contain less than zero point three percent THCHC by

1221
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: dry weight. The sale of hemp and cannabinoids that are

1222
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: extracted from hemp therefore.

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01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: Became legal across Wisconsin.

1224
01:25:51,080 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: THCHCA, Delta eight cbd HHC, and THHCV all legal. If

1225
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 2: the House passes the funding bill, which it is widely

1226
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: expected to, all of those will be illegal. This is

1227
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 2: a very very, very good thing. Now, this is not

1228
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: a debate, ladies and gentlemen, about the legalization of recreational marijuana.

1229
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: It is not. In fact, I.

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01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: Am not at this point going to take a position

1231
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: on it. I am actually opposed to the regulation or

1232
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: to the legalization of recreational marijuana. I recognize that I

1233
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: am in the minority on this one, and I recognize

1234
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: that Republicans are on the wrong side of public opinion

1235
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: on this issue, much like they are on abortion. I

1236
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 2: just believe it is horrible public policy to legalize recreational marijuana.

1237
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: But this isn't about legalization. This is about specifically these products.

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01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: And even if you are the biggest supporter of legalized

1239
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 2: marijuana in Wisconsin, you should be glad that the hemp

1240
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: derived THCHC loophole, the so called farm Bill loophole, is closing.

1241
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Here's why these products are not safe legalized marijuana. In

1242
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: the states that have allowed for recreational drug use, they

1243
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 2: strictly test and regulate all of the products that are

1244
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: sold legally in regulated dispensaries across their states. THCHC products

1245
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin that have popped up over the past seven

1246
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: years at what seems to be fifty percent of the

1247
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: gas stations in this state have no testing requirements, have

1248
01:27:54,040 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 2: no labeling requirements, and often have mass levels of THC

1249
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: in the products, far more than legally allowed because they're

1250
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: not regulated. A study by the Journal of Cannabis Research,

1251
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: which apparently is really a thing, back in twenty twenty three,

1252
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 2: documented over one hundred adverse events of products sold under

1253
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: the farm Bill loophole, including hospitalizations from acute psychosis, vomiting,

1254
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 2: and cardiovascular issues, disproportionately impacting young people who mistake these

1255
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: products for harmless CBD gummies. In fact, a murder that

1256
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 2: shocked Wisconsin and is now getting national attention in Milwaukee.

1257
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: The killing of.

1258
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Ariel Spilner by her alleged friend Jamiica Mills is being

1259
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 2: blamed on extreme heronoia bordering on psychosis because of the

1260
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: use of one of these THHC products. CDC reported a

1261
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 2: ninety two percent spike in Delta eight poison control calls

1262
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: for children who accidentally ingested this stuff from twenty twenty

1263
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty two. Teenagers comprised forty percent of those cases.

1264
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: Now, because of this.

1265
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: More than twenty states have already banned or restricted these

1266
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: sorts of products since twenty twenty one. This has led

1267
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: to a sort of patchwork of regulations that kind of

1268
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 2: does a number on interstate commerce, and it also invites

1269
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: black market THHC products. This has also led to a

1270
01:29:56,360 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 2: huge spike in people using and THC derived products. FDA

1271
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 2: survey from last year found eleven percent of American twelfth

1272
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: graders had used Delta eight in the past year. Before

1273
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, obviously that number was zero. Yes, there is

1274
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 2: the old gateway drug argument that hasn't has not been debunked.

1275
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: Alcohol is every bit the gateway drug that marijuana is.

1276
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 2: But marijuana is indeed a gateway drug, so too is

1277
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: Delta eight. Because these products are not regulated, and because

1278
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 2: there is not the strict enforcement of twenty one and

1279
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 2: up rules to purchase them, teenagers are purchasing them at

1280
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 2: high rates. They are getting much higher than maybe they

1281
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: intend to, thinking that a Delta eight product is just

1282
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 2: like a CBD oil or a CBD gummy. They are

1283
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: often very psychoactive. They are often very very dangerous, spiking

1284
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: heart rates and in one example, leading to such insane

1285
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: psychosis that one friend allegedly shot another. This, of course

1286
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 2: is insanely rare, but it is interesting that this homicide

1287
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: occurred just a couple of days before the twenty eighteen

1288
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 2: Farm Bill loophole is to be closed. Frankly, folks, I

1289
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: don't think it can be closed quickly enough. We will

1290
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 2: talk with Josh Shulman, Republican gubernatorial candidate, on his plans

1291
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: to reform elections in Wisconsin. That's coming up next. We

1292
01:31:55,479 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: are expecting a vote. I'm guessing probably two Democrats are

1293
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 2: going to use the opportunity to debate the Senate's spending bill,

1294
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 2: which would fund government through the end of January. It's

1295
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 2: a continuing resolution that was originally going to fund government

1296
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: through I believe November twenty first, well that's in nine days,

1297
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,919
Speaker 2: so they needed to amend the dates. It just continues

1298
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 2: called a continuing resolution because it continues to fund government

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Speaker 2: at current levels. Democrats got nothing, They caved, they folded.

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Speaker 2: They lost the battle over the shutdown, but it did

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Speaker 2: throw a monkey wrench into President Trump's agenda for forty

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Speaker 2: three days. So maybe, just maybe they won more than

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Speaker 2: they think they did. And yes, I am a big

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Speaker 2: fan of the twenty eighteen Farm bill loophole being closed

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Speaker 2: that allows unregulated THCHC products. Listener reminds me on the

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Speaker 2: advent noos dot com talk and x line THHCA one

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Speaker 2: of these hemp derived products.

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Speaker 1: When you heat it up, i e.

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Speaker 2: When you light it to smoke it, it converts into

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Speaker 2: THHC delta nine. It is the exact same thing as marijuana.

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Speaker 2: That there is no difference between that and marijuana. It's

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Speaker 2: it's a horrible loophole. It always has been, so I'm

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Speaker 2: glad it's going to be closed, all right. One of

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Speaker 2: the best policy proposals I have heard in literally years

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Speaker 2: comes to us for reforming Wisconsin's elections from a Republican

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Speaker 2: gubernatorial candidate and Washington County executive Josh Showman, who joins

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Speaker 2: us live on the phone right now, County executive Showman.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Dan O'Donnell Show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Dan, poff poff pass my friend,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what was that pass? Oh?

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Speaker 1: She's puff past? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you at your local gas station getting some? Are

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Speaker 2: you loading up on Delta nine gummies before the before

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Speaker 2: the loophole closes?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm up by the up, grabbing my stash, just

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Speaker 3: like it's the old Olio days, except now it's weed.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, good I needed that laugh.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure we are the puff puff pass.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But I do want to say, what do you

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Speaker 2: think of that? By the way, what did you think

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Speaker 2: about the fact that we basically had pretty much every

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Speaker 2: single marijuana product currently legal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's an issue that is passed past us,

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Speaker 3: and as conservatives, I think we are spending too much

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Speaker 3: time making arguments that are from nineteen ninety and not

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Speaker 3: enough about arguments that need to happen today. I do

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Speaker 3: believe there are some very serious concerns, as you mentioned

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Speaker 3: just a few minutes ago, about the chemical changes that

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Speaker 3: are being made, not only to marijuana itself, but also

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Speaker 3: these hemp derivatives and THHC. They are increasing the dosage

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Speaker 3: of THHD at such high levels that it's really creating

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Speaker 3: people who are hooked on marijuana. Which sounds like antithetical,

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Speaker 3: but you know this isn't the Ditchweet of the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 3: This is something different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I.

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Speaker 3: Think we need I think we need a reasonable solution

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Speaker 3: with sensible regulation. I'm just not sure exactly what that is.

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Speaker 3: I think we need to have a blue ribbon commission

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Speaker 3: and really take a look and study what is the

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Speaker 3: sensible regulation we need. And quite frankly, this is something

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Speaker 3: the federal government needs to get their act together on.

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Speaker 3: What is there like twenty eight states or something like

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Speaker 3: that that not legalized. Like it's over, guys, let's have

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Speaker 3: something that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: No that I could not agree more with that, Nor

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Speaker 2: could I agree more with your election overhaul. This just

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01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 2: makes way too much. Finally getting rid once and for

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Speaker 2: all of the thoroughly corrupt Wisconsin Elections Commission. And yes,

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Speaker 2: I do say that advisedly. There is no other way

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Speaker 2: to describe this. So it abolishes WECK, It establishes uniform

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Speaker 2: voting rules, It moves all statewide elections to November, which

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Speaker 2: just makes sense. Other states will do, stop the charade

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Speaker 2: that these elections are nonpartisan, cleans up the voter roles,

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Speaker 2: and allows for the counting of absentee ballots the day

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Speaker 2: before election day. All of these are beyond common sense ideas.

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Speaker 2: Can you run down them for our listeners and explain

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Speaker 2: why we so badly need these reforms?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I think common sense is you

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Speaker 3: hit the nail on the head. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you start the big thing, the big ticket item,

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Speaker 3: and that's abolishing WACK. I worked as a municipal clerk

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Speaker 3: under the Government Accountability Board. They were a disaster. The

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Speaker 3: legislature changed it, including my primary opponent who voted for it,

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Speaker 3: to make it suck just a little bit less with

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Speaker 3: the Wisconsin Election Commission, but I will tell you it

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Speaker 3: still sucks. There. You articulated it very well. The Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: Election Commission is nothing more than a system of three

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Speaker 3: Republicans and three Democrats that are designed to fail. It's

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Speaker 3: designed to anything that's controversial. It's going to end in

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Speaker 3: a stalemate by design.

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Speaker 2: And that means it goes, and that means it goes

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Speaker 2: to the all Democrat staff. Their decision is the thing

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Speaker 2: that carries the day.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what a scam, right, And I mean flashback

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Speaker 3: to twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, when everybody is

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Speaker 3: extraordinarily upset about the all of the allegurate election irregularities

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Speaker 3: in twenty and we go to our elected officials and say,

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Speaker 3: we need some accountability. Something's got to happen. And what

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Speaker 3: do the people in Madison do. They point the finger

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Speaker 3: at the Wisconsin Election Commission and say, oh, that's not

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Speaker 3: our responsibility. And what are the people at the Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: Election Commission do? They point out the legislature and say

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01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 3: they need to change the laws. And now we've got

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Speaker 3: citizens of them of Wisconsin who are supposed to elect

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Speaker 3: people in charge of things, running around in circles and

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Speaker 3: able to accomplish nothing. The point of this reform, the

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Speaker 3: biggest ticket item on this list, is to put the

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Speaker 3: hands that put the power back where it belong, in

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Speaker 3: the hands of the people, push power back as close

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Speaker 3: to people across the state as possible. You're going to

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Speaker 3: see this as a huge theme of the all of

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Speaker 3: my campaign. By having an elected official in charge that's

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Speaker 3: not to say that there won't be administrators who are

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Speaker 3: running things just like any other department anywhere. But when

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01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 3: we have an elected official in charge, if that's those

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Speaker 3: same types of election irregularities happen. Now we have somebody

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Speaker 3: we get to vote on in a November election, when

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01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 3: we have the maximum amount of voters and that people

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Speaker 3: can hold accountable. That's how we do things in America.

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Speaker 3: We don't anoint people to run to be appointed to

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Speaker 3: sit on an election commission that are accountable to nobody.

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Speaker 2: And I guess, just to play Devil's advocate, though, what

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Speaker 2: we have seen from a number of secretaries of state,

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Speaker 2: and that's where the power usually is. Vess the are

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Speaker 2: you saying we should go back to having the secretary

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Speaker 2: of state run elections in Wisconsin? Is that the elected

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Speaker 2: official or would there be like an election t czar

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Speaker 2: or something like that that would be constitutionally created.

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Speaker 1: I think you would.

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Speaker 2: You would probably have to transfer the power back to

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Speaker 2: secretary of state.

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Speaker 1: If I'm guessing, I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's the logical first step, first position you think of.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's now thirty two, if I'm

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Speaker 3: not mistaken, thirty two states that have the secretary of

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Speaker 3: state that runs elections. It doesn't matter to me, though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we decide we have the Lieutenant governor

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01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 3: who currently that position currently has no responsibilities whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: True, or the.

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Speaker 3: State treasure which he equally has what I think now

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Speaker 3: a mop closet for an office, and he.

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Speaker 1: Sits on one board. And that's pretty much in all right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the point being like, there has to be

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Speaker 3: somebody that the people can hold accountable. I just don't

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Speaker 3: trust the politicians in Madison or anybody else. So old

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Speaker 3: folks accountable, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Let me play, Let.

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Speaker 2: Me play Devil's advocates though. You just said I don't

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Speaker 2: trust the politicians in Madison, Well, we would then be

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Speaker 2: voting for a politician in Madison to do this. And

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Speaker 2: let's face it, I mean we have Democrats control every

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01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 2: executive office in Wisconsin save for one of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. That is the truth.

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Speaker 3: But our American system of a republic, a constitutional republic,

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01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 3: allows us to elect our elected officials the people the

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Speaker 3: state of Wisconsin. No matter who they choose, it's their choice,

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01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 3: but you get that choice every four years. I get

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Speaker 3: I get that. It's frustrating. And having been an appointed clerk,

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Speaker 3: I know the responsibilities. But let's let's get a little

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Speaker 3: bit more local, because I think that's where it makes

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01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 3: the most sense. We do this seventy two times over

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Speaker 3: in Wisconsin with partisan elected county clerks. Good point, they

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Speaker 3: run elections at the county level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. That's a great point.

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Speaker 2: And we also we also have municipal clerks who are

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Speaker 2: running it in the thousands of cities and municipalities in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: So I even those are elected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I completely I completely get where you're

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Speaker 2: coming from on that one. And you know, it does

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Speaker 2: make a lot more sense. I mean, it's clear the

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin Elections Commission and the would you would you keep

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01:41:56,360 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Ethics Commission or with that power also be

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Speaker 2: vested in the Secretary of State or some other constitutional officer.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I don't. I think the election the FXS Commission

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Speaker 3: seems to be functioning well. I don't hear a lot

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Speaker 3: of complaints about about how they operate. I'm certainly open

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Speaker 3: to that. With the legislature, as you as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: like the legislature is the body that has to do this,

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Speaker 3: but the governor, the governor is elected to lead. And

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Speaker 3: this is a massive issue that I hear everywhere I

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Speaker 3: go in the state. It's a top five issue for voters.

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Speaker 3: They want to they want to know there's a high

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Speaker 3: degree of integrity and fidelity. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: they want secure and verifiable elections.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's it.

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Speaker 3: It's not too complicated.

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Speaker 2: Now, why do you think I have been fighting for

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Speaker 2: this for years and have run into a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of opposition. Why do you think there is such opposition

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Speaker 2: to counting the damn absentee ballots the day before the

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Speaker 2: election when clerks, Yes, they are busy setting up for

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Speaker 2: the following day, Election Day, first Tuesday and Nova, whatever.

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Speaker 2: But wouldn't you rather have these ballots counted during the day,

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Speaker 2: not at ten o'clock at night, in full view of

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Speaker 2: Republican election attorneys, and not in some back room somewhere

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Speaker 2: like we saw in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I think the trust in our system has

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01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 3: been so eroded on both sides of the aisle, even

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Speaker 3: back when Hillary Clinton was claiming the election was stolen

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Speaker 3: on both sides of the aisle, that people don't know

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Speaker 3: whether they can trust somebody trust that type of a

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Speaker 3: process either. It's why this is such a big issue.

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Speaker 3: And everywhere I go. I visited all seventy two counties

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Speaker 3: in one hundred and twenty seven days. I've now visited

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Speaker 3: thirty on the second go around. I hear it time

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Speaker 3: and again. It's not just a Republican issue. Moderates and

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Speaker 3: liberals who are reasonable, we'll talk about this out loud.

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Speaker 3: They know having vote. I mean, look at the results

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Speaker 3: that there's clearly Democrats who voted for the voter I

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01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 3: d constitutional amendments. They know that that elections that are

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01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 3: secure and verifiable are foundational to our constitutional republic and

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01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 3: we have to get things like this STUFFE.

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Speaker 1: Why do you want to move all elections to November.

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01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:27,440
Speaker 3: Bottom line is we pretend like April is nonpartisan elections,

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Speaker 3: and yet everybody knows. It's the worst kept secret in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes it's not even a secret. Lately, the Supreme

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01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,560
Speaker 3: Court justices have been running with labels behind their names. Essentially,

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Speaker 3: these are partisan races, and there's such a small number

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Speaker 3: of people that are voting in April as compared to

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Speaker 3: any November election. There's a small segment of Wisconsin who

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01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 3: are actually voting. I think we should have the maximum

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01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 3: amount of people possible, and quite frankly, I also think

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01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 3: the way we do our primaries doesn't make any sense

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01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,759
Speaker 3: at all. The fact that there's only twelve weeks between

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01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 3: the primary in August and the gubernatorial election in November

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01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:09,560
Speaker 3: is a joke. And you know, meanwhile, the president the

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01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 3: primary is in April and they have the whole entire

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01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 3: summer to campaign. People get a chance to actually study

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01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 3: the candidates and understand the issues, not to mention the

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01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 3: fiscal portion of it, which is important, but secondary to

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01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 3: all of that. I think we need to have all

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Speaker 3: of these elections. And I think the election of Jill

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01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 3: Underly is a perfect example. If people would have known

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01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 3: what they found out this October about all these sexual

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01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 3: obevians still having licenses and kind of being swept under

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01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,559
Speaker 3: the rug, if they would have known that in November,

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01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 3: there's no way she gets there's likely no way she

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01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 3: gets re elected. Now we've yeah, So I mean it's

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01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 3: a perfect example. And if you have the maximum mode

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01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 3: of voters, you've got a lot more people in the

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01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 3: pool who are like, wait a minute, what is going

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01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 3: on over there. I think it's a totally different, different

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01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 3: game and the same can be truated for Supreme Court

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01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 3: races essentially become de facto partisan races.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I do not have a single thing in this proposal,

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01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Josh that I disagree with. Josh Shauman, Washington County Executive,

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01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor. Thank you, as always, do appreciate

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01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 2: you taking the time, sir, and great proposal.

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01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 3: I bravo, thank you very much.

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01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 3: Please go to Josh Shulman dot com to learn more.

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01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 3: And let's push the power back to the hands of

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01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,440
Speaker 3: the people. Let the people decide.

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01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 2: Could have said it any better myself. Showman by the

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01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 2: way spelled sccho E m A and Dan O'Donnell's show

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: coming right back. Really do like Shawman's ideas for reforming elections.

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01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: This is something that is long overdue. The Wisconsin Elections

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01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 2: Commission has proven itself over multiple and I mean multiple

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01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 2: election cycles, not just the debacle that was twenty twenty.

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01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 2: It is proven itself to be thoroughly and utterly in

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01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 2: the tank for Democrats. There's just no other two ways

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01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 2: about it. None. The idea behind it was that there

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01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: would be three appointed Republicans, three Republican appointed members and

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01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 2: three Democrat appointed members, and in order to do anything

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01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:26,480
Speaker 2: there would need to be bipartisan agreement.

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01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: The problem though.

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01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: Is that whenever there is a three to three tie,

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01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: and there is always a three to three tie, the

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01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:40,799
Speaker 2: recommendation of the staff is what carries the day. Guess

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01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 2: what political persuasion every single staff member of that organization

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01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 2: just happens to be, including its director Megan Woolf, who

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01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 2: Republicans tried to get rid of but could not.

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01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 1: They're all Democrats.

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01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 2: They're all Madison liberal Democrats, last one of them. They

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01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 2: have been openly violating state law by refusing to clean

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01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:12,799
Speaker 2: up the state's voting roles. They have refused to cross

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01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:19,560
Speaker 2: check voting roles with DMV driver's license records. They have refused,

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01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 2: refused to the point where they had to be sued,

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01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 2: where a judge in Waukeshaw County had to tell them, hey,

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01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 2: you need to check to make sure there are no

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01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 2: illegal aliens or other people who are not legally authorized

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01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 2: to vote on Wisconsin's voter roles. They said, Nah, We're

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01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 2: just not going to do that. Why what you administer

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01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 2: Wisconsin elections? What possible reason could there be not to

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01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 2: do that unless you want people who are not legally

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01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 2: authorized to vote to be on the voter rolls and

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01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 2: thus able to vote. There is no other There's no

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01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 2: other explanation none. Wisconsin's voter roles should be constantly cleaned up.

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01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 2: We can do this algorithmically. And oh, by the way,

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01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 2: if someone is inadvertently removed from the voter rolls and

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01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: can't vote, guess what, They can register same day. They

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01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: can literally when they go to vote on election day,

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01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 2: when they go to vote early, they can register to

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01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 2: vote and vote at the exact same time. There is

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01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: no harm that could possibly be incurred. But yet, no, no, no, no, no,

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01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: we can't. We can't clean up the voter rolls. The

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01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 2: one that just gets me every time, and it's Republicans

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01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: who are primarily opposed to this, is counting the absentee

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01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 2: ballots the day before. Why are we allowing them to

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01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: do this under cover of darkness on election day when

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01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 2: Republican election attorneys are spread so thin. Get them all

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01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 2: in one spot, do it at this central count. First

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01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 2: of all, I would get rid of Central count this

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01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 2: notion that we ship the ballots off to some other

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01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 2: place for them to be run them through the machines

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01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 2: where they are. How is that so difficult? But this

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01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 2: idea that we should be counting them at all hours

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01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 2: of the night instead of when we very easily can

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01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 2: the day before, when the clerks, when the election workers

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01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 2: aren't really doing all that much. Yes they're getting ready

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01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: for the elections, but they can certainly run the ballots

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01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 2: through the machines. And moving elections to November makes a

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01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 2: lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: It just does.

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01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:00,759
Speaker 2: Vote for it. They can be nonpartisan races. You don't

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01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:04,799
Speaker 2: have to put Republican or Democrat on the actual ballot.

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01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 2: Why we have a random day in April as an

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01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 2: election day is just beyond me.

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01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: All of these make a whole lot of sense. We

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01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 1: will be back.

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01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 2: Had to do a quick segment because we have one

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01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 2: last commercial break to get to here on the Dan

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01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 2: o'donald Show.

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Speaker 1: Have no fear, We.

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01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Are back in just a second. Welcome back to the

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01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 2: Dan o'donald Show. The Milwaukee Bucks are in Charlotte to

1621
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 2: take on the Hornets tonight.

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01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:38,600
Speaker 1: And don't look now. But if it wasn't for VJ. Edgecomb,

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01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:40,719
Speaker 1: you could make.

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01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 2: The case that Konk Nipple of Wisconsin Lutheran he went

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01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 2: to Duke for college, is on pace to be NBA

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01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. He was taken fourth overall by

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01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:56,839
Speaker 2: the Hornets, and he is playing up to his draft status.

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01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: He's averaging sixteen point seven point per game, six point

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01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 2: four rebounds, three assists per game, as well shooting forty

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01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 2: five percent from the field. He can score in a

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01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 2: bunch of different ways, and in fact, about a week

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01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 2: or so ago in Miami, he dropped thirty on the Heat.

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01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 2: Always good to see a local kid make good. Meanwhile,

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01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick and Canipple's teammate at Duke,

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01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, has been struggling a little bit, primarily because

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01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks tried to move him to point guard.

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01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 2: He is a natural wing and he is a generational player,

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01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 2: says everybody who has ever watched the kid play. But

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01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 2: he's been playing on a position now. Because of that,

1640
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 2: and because of the fact that he made the absolute

1641
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 2: worst trade in franchise history, the Mavericks finally fired their

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01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 2: general manager, mee Go Harrison. Little known fact about Harrison,

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01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Do you know? He was the executive at Nike who

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01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: argued against signing a young player from Davidson College by

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01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 2: the name of Steph Curry. He honestly said, no, we

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01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 2: should not sign Steph Curry, and yes we should trade

1647
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 2: away Luka Doncic to the Los Angeles Raiders. Good riddance.

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01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 2: I would talk folks briefly about that Monday night football game.

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01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 2: Frankly I didn't see it because it went on at

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01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 2: what four am my time. I was in Rome, had

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01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 2: a just incredible time. We are out of time for

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01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 2: today's program, so maybe I'll talk about some of our

1653
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 2: experiences in Rome and why you absolutely have to get there.

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01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,519
Speaker 2: But alas we are out of time, talk to you

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01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,679
Speaker 2: tomorrow three h six right here on the Dan o'donald Show.