1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm for a month fifty five krc he talk station, 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Hey thirty on a Thursday. It means one thing, and 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm always looking forward to this time of week. I 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: heard me the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe joins the show 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: talk about of course, aviation topics. Welcome back, my dear friend. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: It's always great having you on the show. 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: It's a Thursday. Can't get here fast enough, brother. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: I'm glad you say that because I feel the same way. 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: And you know not to labor the point. But I'm 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: sitting in my living room and all of a sudden, 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I hear Jay Ratliffe. Where the hell's that 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: voice coming from. My son was taking your one of 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: your classes on life. He's loving that, by the way, 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: he is all over. My son's one of Jay's students. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, as long as as long as people follow the rules, 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: were in good ship. Oh, he's followed like like you. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Your voice follows you. Sherry and I are at the 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Sand Pearl in Clearwater and I'm going up in elevator 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: and some lady looks at me and says, are you 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: from Cincinnati? And I said, uh yeah, out she goes, 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to recognize your voice. So yeah, you can't 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: get away with stuff where we are. I'm glad it 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: was a good day for me. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, amen, brother, all right. The fastest growing airline 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, drum roll, Maestro Jay Ratliffe. 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: Up forty one percent. We have them in Cincinnati. It's 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: Breeze Airways. Breeze Breeze yep. They started operations in twenty 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: twenty one, low cost carrier bringing in brand new airplanes. 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: They started their operation at the beginning at twenty twenty one. 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: They joined US three years ago. I think it was 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: February of three years ago. And since then they've continue 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: to expand their network. They've added international service and based 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: on the scheduled service from Aviation Analytics from last year 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: to this year, they're operating forty one percent more flights 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: now in early twenty twenty six, and they did last year. 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: And again they started at Cincinnati three years ago, they've 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: grown since. They now provide service to five cities. I 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: think it's true Garlston in San Francisco, and then we 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: get seasonal service to Hartford, Providence and one of my 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: all time favorites at San Diego and the Man that 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: started this airline, started Jet Blue, which we've heard of, 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: also started west Jet, the low cost carrier in Canada. 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: And I think one of his kids may go to 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: school somewhere in the Dayton area, but in college. But 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: they are constantly growing. And I hear from so many 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: people across the country that said, Jay, my wife made 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: a reservation on some airline. I've never heard of Breeze. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: What do you think. I said, Well, look, I've got 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: nothing but high marks to say, but circle back to 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: me after your trip and let me know. And I 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: hear from people constantly saying, oh my gosh, we had 52 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: a great time. They treated us great, the fairs were great, 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: and I wish everybody else could be like this. So yeah, 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled that we've got them in Cincinnati and that 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: they continue to grow well. 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: In growth means maybe adding more cities. And I guess 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of puzzling over that was a pretty 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: random disparate number of a selection of cities. I guess 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't need to get get in the weeds on it, 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: but it seems like a weird how do they arrive 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: at those cities as opposed to some of the other 62 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: ones that we might think. 63 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: Of the analytics that they go through where they determined 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: where are people flying to out of this market. And 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: I can tell you all the different stops that I 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: had in the airline industry. If I was in a 67 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: specific city and there was a lot of people that 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: were flying from our city through a connection city to 69 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: let's say, you know, Boston, the airline said, well, we 70 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: got that many people. What if we did a NonStop 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: from that city to Boston versus everybody being forced to 72 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: go through Atlanta or whatever the city it was, it 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: might happen to be and they will put that service 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: in after they've done an extensive survey, and if the 75 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: market supports it, instead of one flight today, they may 76 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: give them two flights today. It was a lot like 77 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: when Comma Air was here. They decided to run a 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: flight to Manchester and they thought, well, it's thirty minutes 79 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: or whatever it is from Boston, so let's try it. 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: And it was so well received. I think at the 81 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: peak there might have been five or six flo today 82 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: back and forth between Cincinnati and there and back. And 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: you know, when you look at it, it was great 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: to see because all they're doing is providing service to 85 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: where people want to fly, and that's what Breeze and 86 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: other carriers are doing. Likewise, if they start to see 87 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: the services a little bit soft, airlines will cancel some 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: of their flights or they will use smaller airplanes to 89 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: do so. So that's one of the things that they're 90 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: always looking at it saying, look, if we're flying too 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: big of an airplane, let's put a smaller airplane in 92 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: there so we can maintain the service. Or it's dropped 93 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: off so much that instead of four flights today, let's 94 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: go with three flights or two flights today. And you 95 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: know that's we've seen delta in American I think United 96 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: also do that here, giving us bigger airplanes in some 97 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: markets because the demand continues to increase and they want 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: to respond to that. 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: Fair enough, we'll pause ring jayrightlif back quite a few 100 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: different topics to talk with Jay about, as is always 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: the case, including sounds like a stack of stupid story 102 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: from a Friday intoxicated passenger removing his clothes during a flight. 103 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: More with Jay Rylif at eight thirty five. Right now 104 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: that you five KRCD Talk Station fifty five KRC fifty 105 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: five KRCD Talk station. We've ever been in a cockpit 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: before A thirty eight If you have KRCD talk station. 107 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: I know Jay Ryd left has i heeart media aviation expert. 108 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: All right, before we get to the naked guy, let's 109 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: what's the story with Air India grounding. It's Boeing sevent 110 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: eighty seven Dreamliners. Is this represented maybe a broader problem? 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: Jay? Yeah, Yeah. What they're saying is that they've they've 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: seen reports of issues with the fuel control switch. So 113 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: because they're saying it's a defect, but really what we're 114 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: looking at is the possibility of a problem. So they're 115 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: airing on the side of caution and they have grounded 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: their fleet if I think thirty eight of these Boeing 117 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: seven eighty seven Dreamliners. So Boeing and the FAA are 118 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: looking into this to see if there's any reports or 119 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: any issues that would support the need for advising other 120 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: airlines of the countries around the world that would be operating. 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: I think we've got just over eleven hundred of these 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: airplanes that are flying right now around the world, so 123 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: if there is an issue there, we'll look at it. 124 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: Of course, Air India had that horrific crash last year 125 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: where one of the crew members apparently turned off the 126 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: fuel that caused it to crash. So I don't know 127 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: if this is something where that I don't know. I mean, 128 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: you know, you look at it legally, you look at 129 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: it operationally, and there's a lot of questions that swirl. 130 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: But at this point in time, no other airlines have 131 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: reported this, so I mean, obviously we'll keep an eye 132 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: on it and see where it goes. 133 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, is this like a I suppose the FAA is 134 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: sort of in a position of like a car manufacturer. 135 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: They determined whether there's going to be a recall or 136 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: like issue a technical service bulletin kind of thing. 137 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And the way it works is we had 138 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: a Southwest Airlines flight that had an uncontrolled engine failure 139 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: where the engine just kind of fell, came apart in 140 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: flight and actually pierced the side of the aircraft and 141 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: forced an emergency landing in Pensacola. And when the NTSB 142 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: did their their work, which is again they're the all 143 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: star team, they said, oops, part of this engines is 144 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: reaching a point of fatigue faster than we thought. So 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: the NTSB told the FAA our recommendation has had these 146 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: engines inspected immediately, so that's what the FAA can or 147 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: cannot do, And instead they looked at the airlines and said, well, 148 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: maybe we can recommend that you do it, but we're 149 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: not going to mandate it. It's totally up to you. 150 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: Even when the engine manufacturer came along and said, wait 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: a minute, we also agree with the NTSB, these need 152 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: to be inspected now, the FAA again said we're going 153 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: to leave it up to the airlines. Eighteen months later, 154 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: the same thing happened over Pennsylvania and a passenger was killed. 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: So a lot of times I grow really frustrated with 156 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: the FAA. I'm not saying yielding to the pressure of 157 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: the airline lobbying group, because there was a great deal 158 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: of cost associated with those engine inspections, but sometimes they're 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: kind of slow, and sometimes there needs to be an 160 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: accident or near accident before we do things that need 161 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: to be done, which again shouldn't be the case, but 162 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: history shows that, sadly, that tends to be what happens. 163 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh gee, and here's the Federal Aviation Emission agreeing with 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the NTSB that, woops, we screwed up our decision to 165 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: allow helicopter routes to operate near a runway at Reagan 166 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: National Airport was a really stupid idea. Woops, sorry are bad? 167 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's sad to see that, especially when you 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: have so many indications of possible problems where it's obvious 169 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 2: something's up, something's going wrong, and it's a matter of 170 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: how many near missus do we need to have in 171 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: the thousands and thousands and thousands before somebody says, you know, 172 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: we're on borrowed time here. But you know, sometimes logistically 173 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: from an operational standpoint, there is sometimes only so much 174 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: you can do, but there's always options. You can either 175 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: throw brottle back on the number of flights going through 176 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: an area, or you can change certain arrival departure patterns 177 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: or in that case, stop the military flights from going 178 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: across the river there like they were doing both in 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: training and transportation. And it was a very very slow process, 180 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 2: which again we had to have the crash before the 181 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: focus was on there. And now the FA is looking 182 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: at creating a separate safety board that is going to 183 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: look at specific things to you know, kind of speed 184 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: things along. Now I would have thought just making the 185 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: FAA better at what they did, if they needed more 186 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: inspectors or what have you would have been the fix. 187 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: But to have a separate entity there I'm not really 188 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: sure of at this point in time. But we'll see 189 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: where it goes, because I don't know. It's a lot 190 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: like having those committee meetings we've talked about where there 191 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: were working on it, folks. We've we've we've got that 192 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: committee that's going to be looking into it. Blah blah. 193 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's it sounds political. 194 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: It does sounds like just adding another layer of government 195 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: to make it look like they're doing something, and ultimately 196 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: it's the status quo, which. 197 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Is which was exactly how the TSA was born, because 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: nine to eleven was not a process or a result 199 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: of a lack of security. It was the protocol at 200 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: the time. But to make people feel like we were 201 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: addressing it, attacking it, we created an entire new government 202 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: body that's got fifty thousand plus new federal employees. When 203 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: George Bush did that as president, I thought, I understand, 204 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: we need to act like we're doing something, but I 205 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: don't think this is it. And I still agree that 206 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: that wasn't the step to take. 207 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: And then brother, all right, let's move over to the 208 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: intoxicated passenger. I love these types of stories. Jay makes 209 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: up the stack of stupid, most notably on Friday since 210 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: it involves naked guy. 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. In fact, the passengers on board called 212 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: this a thrilling situation, so I guess it was fun 213 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: to watch. But it was during an Air Asia flight 214 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: Vietnam to Thailand. You've got a guy on board that 215 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: starts to get agitated, and he starts walking up down 216 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: the aisle saying he wants off the airplane. Yeah, no problem, 217 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: and it's not like you can pull over to the 218 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: curb and let him step out. But he gets into 219 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: this fit and he starts tearing off his clothes all 220 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: the way down to his underwear, and they finally got 221 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: the guy subdued enough where he would sit. The plane lands, 222 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: he jumps up and runs out the front door, and 223 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: instead of going down the jet bridge into the airport, 224 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: he busts through the door and goes down the steps 225 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: to the ramp. Now he's thinking nobody's watching him and 226 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: nobody can see him, so he jumps under a truck, 227 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: a fuel truck, like nobody's going to see him, and 228 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure his legs were hanging out too, so it's 229 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: not like nobody's not going to see him. The police 230 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: were quickly there, obviously and got him arrested. Alcohol was 231 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: certainly involved, I think in excess here. But he's arrested 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: and we'll see where it goes from there. But the 233 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: passengers on board, did they once feel threatened? No. The 234 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: word they kept using was it was thrilling. So I 235 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: guess he was on board entertainment. I don't know. 236 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the circus sideshow of life. Jay Rightft'll pause, 237 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: will bring jayback. 238 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, So like the woman in Fort Lauderdale 239 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: years ago was walking through the airport solely taking off 240 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: her close every fifteen twenty steps, A lot of men 241 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: consider that thrilling as. 242 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: Well, maybe even some women. Don't go away. We have 243 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: a couple more topics go and of course get a 244 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: hub delay as we always do at the end of 245 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the segment with Jay Ratliffe. One more stick around fifty 246 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: five KRC Men Trump Hey, forty eight Happy Friday Eve 247 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: tomorrow on the fifty five KERC Morning show Tech Friday 248 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter and Congressman Warren Davidson returns tomorrow, icently 249 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: called Congressman Taylor, Congressman Davidson earlier he didn't mind that 250 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: that was actually a compliment. But that's tomorrow and today 251 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: we are talking as we always close out the show 252 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: three segments with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Rattlifte the new 253 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: mandate not two hours of cockpit recording, but twenty five hours, 254 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: which sounds we're talking about cockpit flight recording, Jay, Yeah. 255 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: One of the two block boxes is the cockpit voice recorder, 256 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: the CBR, and it is it's on a loop of 257 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: two hours, and the National Transportation Safety Board for a 258 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: number of years has told the FAA, look, we need 259 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: more than two hours when we're doing an investigation because 260 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: sometimes we need more because of what's going on during 261 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: the flight, and having a short two hour loop is 262 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: just not enough, and they wanted something twenty five hours 263 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: or so. So it finally got to the point after 264 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: I think the NTSB has been asking for this since 265 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and it was last Friday that the Fighter 266 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Aviation Administration said, Okay, we are going to now finalize 267 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: our rule to require cockpit voice recorders to retain twenty 268 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: five hours of data for all passing your planes. I 269 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: believe beginning next year in twenty twenty seven, and they're 270 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: going to replace that with that two hour loop. This 271 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: is already being done in Europe where airlines or airplanes 272 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: are designed to collect that twenty five hours of the 273 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: voice recordings. They've been doing that for three or four years, 274 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: maybe five at this point in time. So I'm really 275 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: that the FA's taking this needed step because all it's 276 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: going to do is make it easier for them to 277 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: do their job. And again, they're the all star team. 278 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Anytime we've got an accident or near accident, that's the 279 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: team that's dispatched to investigate it. They learn a lot, 280 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: and then they turn those findings over to the FAA, 281 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: who can, if they so choose, implement some of the 282 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: changes that have been recommended after the investigations concluded. 283 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, I can only imagine the two hour requirement was 284 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: back in the days when maybe data storage was really 285 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: expensive or something. But in these modern times, I mean 286 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: data storage. 287 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: Is also cheap. You look at how aviation was thirty 288 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: forty fifty years ago. To our loops were fine because 289 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: what ended up taking place is most of the time 290 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: the flights were short segments where most of the flights 291 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: were at under two hours because you know, before the 292 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: days of the hub and spoke distribution, you'd have a 293 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: flight from Cincinnati to the West coast. It might make 294 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: three stops or four stops. It was still a wreck flight. 295 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: It was not NonStop to the ultimate destination, but it 296 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: would make several stops in between. So you know, two 297 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: hours was something that was okay. Pilots haven't been incredibly 298 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: excited about that because they feel like the airlines could 299 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: use that if they wanted to try to get rid 300 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: of somebody that's making a lot of money under some 301 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: little technicality of some kind. So there's concern on their part. 302 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: But again, the FAA is moving forward with this and 303 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm very pleased to see. 304 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: It, and the FAA is on the job looking into 305 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: a close call, this one at the San Antonio Airport. 306 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: What's the story behind this one? 307 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: Jay, We had a southwest flight that was cleared for 308 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: takeoff and it started rolling down the runway increasing speed. 309 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: But then we had a small, smaller aircraft General Aviation 310 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: at the other end of the runway that took a 311 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: wrong turn onto that active runway and was actually turned 312 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: and taxing somewhat slowly towards the Southwest plane, so we've 313 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: got two planes pointed at each other. An air traffic 314 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: controllers spotted this smaller airplane and immediately ordered Southwest to 315 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: cancel their takeoff, and I mean the voice on the 316 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: air traffic control tape. He was definitely trying to get 317 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: Southwest's attention to try to stop their takeoff. They did. 318 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: The two aircraft didn't come any closer than I think 319 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: about two thousand feet, but still, when you've got one 320 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: accelerating to more than one hundred and fifty miles an hour, 321 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: that distance can be close rapidly. So the FAA will 322 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: be having a conversation I am sure, with the pilot 323 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: of that smaller aircraft. But this is just another one 324 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: of these incidents, and they happen not frequently, well they do, 325 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: but the air traffic controllers do such a good job 326 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: of making sure that if there's any ground equipment or 327 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: any aircraft where it shouldn't be, they'll tell airplanes to 328 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: go around to stop their taxi or takeoff. And even 329 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: though they're understaffed, they do an incredible, incredible job, and 330 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons I'm still very very pleased 331 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: that President Trump is made it early in his administration 332 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: a priority to fix that, to get the thousands and 333 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: thousands of air traffic controllers that we need hired or 334 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: trained quickly, so that in the next four or five years, 335 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: because that's how long it takes to train everybody, get 336 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: them back on the job. So these men and women 337 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: don't have to work six seven hour or day work weeks. 338 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: They can actually have a day offer, oh my gosh, gas, 339 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: a weekend off. Yeah, and not be as exhausted as 340 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: these people are right now. 341 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: No question about it. And that's a stressful job, as I 342 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: think you certainly know that, all right. And before we 343 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: get the hubbed layers, we have well idiots doing idiot 344 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: things because they're idiots, apparently, Jay, another laser incident. 345 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlotte American Airlines thirty one to fourteen final approach, 346 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: when someone on the ground pointed one of these powerful 347 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: handheld lasers at the plane. And you know, I've talked 348 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: about it before. These lasers can actually cause temporary blindness 349 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: to a flight crew because it hits the cockpit ceiling 350 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: and it illuminates it to such an extent that they 351 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: lose their site. In fact, we've had some pilots that 352 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: had to retire because they've lost vision a in an 353 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: eye because of these laser attacks. The last year that 354 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: we've seen a full year of report, I think was 355 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The FA had ten nine and ninety 356 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: three of these laser strikes that were reported. And look, 357 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: if you get caught with this year talking about the 358 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: thirty two thousand dollars minimum fine can reach up to 359 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and you can go 360 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: to prison for five years. So it's stupid and sadly 361 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: we don't catch enough of these people because once the 362 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: aircraft is hit, as they're you know, at that critical 363 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: moment of flight, take off the landing, for them to 364 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: have to relay air air traffic controller where the idiot is. 365 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: At many times it's you know, half a mile or 366 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: a mile behind him at that point in time, and 367 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: to give an exact location is very difficult. Now, we 368 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: did have one of these people that experienced karma when 369 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: he pointed one of these at a helicopter that was 370 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: a sheriff's helicopter and they chased him down ain't got him, 371 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: And I was glad for that, but if you ever 372 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: see somebody that's acting in this kind of manner, please 373 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: stop them because they're putting people's lives at risk when 374 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: they're like, ooh, I wonder if I can you know, 375 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: paint this airplane that's flying over, because it can actually 376 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: blind the pilots and cause a crash that could actually 377 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: kill people. 378 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: Anyhow, I don't understand people's actions some days. 379 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: Finally, alcohols involved in Alcohol is involved in some of those, 380 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: my friends. 381 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: I bet you're right, yes. And finally, we always part 382 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: company on hub delays. How looking out there for air travel. 383 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: Jay, Chicago, Detroit, Tampa, Orlando. Weather delays with snow in 384 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: the north and a lot of rain through the south, 385 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: that's going to give us some weather related delays approaching 386 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: an hour. But all in all pretty decent I mean 387 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: for February weather, so minimal delays and if you picked today, 388 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: pretty good day to fly it. 389 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: Jay Ryler, Thank God for you. Love having you on 390 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: the show. It's great information and sometimes quite comical. And 391 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: look forward to having another talk with you next Thursday. 392 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, my friend, and as always 393 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: up as to health and loved you in your better 394 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: half