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Speaker 1: Who knows from University of Cincinnati are dealing with sleep issues,

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Speaker 1: Sleep center stuff. Doctor Ann Romaker. Welcome to seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: How are you today?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: How big is that hour when it comes down to

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Speaker 1: because I've seen statistics that show some serious consequences for

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Speaker 1: some people when it comes to either even gaining an hour,

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Speaker 1: which I would have thought would have been almost painless

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Speaker 1: and an easy, hiccup free kind of circumstance.

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Speaker 4: Actually, the sensitivity to the changes in light and dark

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Speaker 4: and our body clocks vary from one person to the next.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of a lot of this is inherited, actually,

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Speaker 4: so some people are very sensitive to it, some people

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Speaker 4: not so much. The majority of us can adapt to

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Speaker 4: swings of about an hour a day. They can, We

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Speaker 4: can sort of do that, But there are When I

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Speaker 4: say adapt to that, I mean we can change our

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Speaker 4: sleep schedule fairly easily on our own. But that doesn't

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Speaker 4: take into account our lifestyle and our our current culture.

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Speaker 4: So work still happens. You still can't adjust, you know,

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Speaker 4: when you're going to go to work because your body

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Speaker 4: clock is set at a different time. You can't change

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Speaker 4: the fact that it's darker at different times, and so

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Speaker 4: there's more car accidents because our little like when you're

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Speaker 4: it's darker in the evening and kids are coming home

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Speaker 4: from practice or other activities, there's more likely just by

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Speaker 4: sheer numbers to have more accidents. But because we as

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Speaker 4: a people don't like to go to sleep earlier when

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Speaker 4: our clocks when that's the appropriate thing to do, we

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Speaker 4: get less sleep. And then when we have less sleep,

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Speaker 4: we are not as good at We're not as we're

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Speaker 4: not as coordinated, we're not as thoughtful, we forget things,

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Speaker 4: we get irritable, and so our lives are not quite

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Speaker 4: as good because we're not at our best.

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Speaker 1: So technology advancements of our society and the industrial revolution

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Speaker 1: and everything it has made our lives relatively easy compared

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Speaker 1: to those back in the day when it was literally

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Speaker 1: you know, working to eat and with no power after

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Speaker 1: dark if you had a candle grate, but you were

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Speaker 1: going to go to sleep and get up at the

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Speaker 1: crack of dawn. Effectively, that was natural with the seasons,

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Speaker 1: but we've altered that with all this technology and science

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Speaker 1: and synthetic light and so forth. Were people healthier then

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Speaker 1: or do we not know how they were living? So

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Speaker 1: much back before the advent of all those things I

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Speaker 1: just mentioned.

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Speaker 4: They had other health issues instead of these, They were

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Speaker 4: more likely to die of infection or to be coppered by,

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Speaker 4: you know, in relatively blunt tools or things like that.

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Speaker 1: It's great, shouldn't joke, right, that's not really funny, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so one thing doesn't get you, I

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Speaker 1: guess another will, right, vulnerability wise, But.

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Speaker 4: They know we did try this before, you know, in

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighteen and nineteen nineteen we went to daylight savings

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Speaker 4: time for you know, throughout and again in World War

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Speaker 4: Two we tried it for almost three years, and each

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Speaker 4: time Congress repealed it because people didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: And there's a big push for it now. So you

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Speaker 1: think it's just one of those things that we forget,

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Speaker 1: sort of like basics of hygiene that we found out

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Speaker 1: with the pandemic that obviously washing hands was a stretch

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people and courtesy for our neighbors,

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Speaker 1: but maybe a little bit of a stretch for some people.

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Speaker 1: So we just need to be reminded. I guess of

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Speaker 1: some basic things.

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Speaker 4: Is that it I think so? And how did we

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Speaker 4: come up with our current the standard time where how

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Speaker 4: did that occur? That occur that was people coming together

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Speaker 4: and deciding this is how, this is how we're going

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Speaker 4: to measure time. This is when you know when we're

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Speaker 4: going to give the assigned hours based on the way

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Speaker 4: the sun rises and fall, et cetera, et cetera. But

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Speaker 4: also because our bodies were attuned to that, and so

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Speaker 4: the standard time was actually sort of codified around how

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Speaker 4: the human physiology works. So changing it is like, okay,

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Speaker 4: But the reason it's the way it is is because

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Speaker 4: this is what works best for the vast majority.

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Speaker 5: Of human bodies, some of us anyway.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Ann Romeger of University of Cincinnati Sleep Center talking

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Speaker 1: to issues with the falling back, moving ahead time changed

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Speaker 1: day likes he gets deep and health issues at the

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Speaker 1: top of the list. When I was a kid, not

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Speaker 1: to make this all about me, but springing ahead, you

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Speaker 1: would have thought would have made it harder to get up,

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Speaker 1: get to school on time, into function. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if the sun coming up earlier, springing ahead on

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Speaker 1: top of it, or what I have found historically, and

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Speaker 1: this continues to be the case that springing ahead makes

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Speaker 1: my life easier to wake up and get there at

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Speaker 1: least for a window of time in that change. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the fear of oversleeping and hearing

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Speaker 1: not hearing the alarm or even you know, when I

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Speaker 1: was just a little kid, you know, walking you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple six blocks to school whatever, second third grade,

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Speaker 1: compared to say now where it's a different scenario. And

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Speaker 1: I talk to most people springing your heads the harder

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Speaker 1: part rather than falling back right.

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Speaker 4: But that again goes along with your biology. You may

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Speaker 4: be already sort of a morning have more of a

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Speaker 4: morning phenotype, so that some people love to get up

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Speaker 4: and get going in the morning, or that their body

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Speaker 4: gets them up to get going in the morning, whether

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Speaker 4: they love it or not, but that's their own body clock,

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Speaker 4: so we call them larks. And then there are other

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Speaker 4: people who and more people are evening type people. And

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Speaker 4: the majority of us can go either way depending on

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Speaker 4: what our other responsibilities are. But yeah, everyone's different, and

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Speaker 4: some folks, you know, thrive in one one scenario versus another.

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Speaker 4: But the morning people who do the way you do,

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Speaker 4: who respond the way you do, are about five percent

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Speaker 6: Five percent.

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Speaker 5: And I'm left handed, Holy crap, I'm an anomaly all

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Speaker 5: the way around.

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Speaker 4: You are very unique.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're all special, doctor, and Romaker was still on

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Speaker 1: the big one. So little incremental changes like the nap.

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Speaker 1: I hated naps as a kid. They want to make

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Speaker 1: you have a nap at school and I was like,

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Speaker 1: grown ups don't do naps. I want to be productive.

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Speaker 1: And they would like, just shut up, kid and lay

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Speaker 1: there and be quiet. And now if I could get

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Speaker 1: these little but a little nap is a good thing, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is good for us.

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Speaker 7: You're happy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we have all kinds of things, whether it's over

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Speaker 1: the counter medications, prescription medications, some of which help you

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Speaker 1: hallucinate if you wake up in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: You can cook, you can eat, you can have sex,

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Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals involved with sleep issues. How big of a problem

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Speaker 1: is sleep, either deprivation or other disorders form app to you?

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Speaker 1: Do you name it that you deal with that we

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Speaker 4: Do you think, Well, they're they're becoming more and more prevalent,

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Speaker 4: and the biggest problem has been sleep deprivation. We get

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Speaker 4: busier and busier and we sleep less and less. And

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Speaker 4: that's one of the reasons that daylight saving time. It's

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Speaker 4: probably because if we do sleep about and we don't

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Speaker 4: less from what we were doing before because it's light

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Speaker 4: and we can and we have things to do, and

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Speaker 4: and other you know, youth sports. Sure, you know, playing

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Speaker 4: And so thirty eight percent of teenagers have fall asleep

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Speaker 1: So what's the answer, I mean, because you can't just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a nap, certainly in school. On the job,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of jobs where they embrace the

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Speaker 1: idea of letting you have a nap or taking that

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Speaker 1: you're probably not doing the nap. And other healthy things.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what's going on in our days.

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Speaker 4: Well, the biggest thing for us to do. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it depends on where we are. But first of all,

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Speaker 4: we have to value sleep as opposed to thinking that

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Speaker 4: sleep somehow means that we're lazy and that we're somehow

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Speaker 4: stronger better people for being sleep deprived. So for schools,

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Speaker 4: you know they're already starting to do this is by

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Speaker 4: having a later start time because the school kids' body

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Speaker 4: If you will the class that helps and for us,

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Speaker 4: I think that many people have found that working from

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Speaker 4: home has been very helpful because they could actually often

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Speaker 4: adjust their work schedule more towards their own body clock. Additionally,

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Speaker 4: better for lots of people. I'd like to go to

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Speaker 4: work because I like to have my family. My work

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Speaker 4: and my family life's a little bit separate.

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Speaker 4: The commute is no fun. So having more time to

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Speaker 1: Don't want a sleepless guy in a truck or bus

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Speaker 1: next to me or something like that. Job while let

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Speaker 1: the right thing to stream or read. I've seen people

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Speaker 5: It's just ridiculous. I agree.

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Speaker 1: What am I not asking Doctor Ann Romaker from University

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati talking Sleep Center, sleep disorders and problems. What

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Speaker 1: is relevant to bringing ahead in the spring as far

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Speaker 1: one point something was missed and going to school earlier

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Speaker 1: that I was supposed to because Mom thought I was

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Speaker 1: just honest. It was just because she was like, nah, nah, no,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go there, and nothing was changed.

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 4: I walked into church one Sunday and walked right up

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Speaker 4: to the front to sit down, and it was.

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Speaker 9: They were over because it was well, you missed.

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Speaker 4: It, miss I missed the hour.

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Speaker 1: See oh no, it's time for pancake, and you didn't

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Speaker 5: That's not good anyway.

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Speaker 4: The things that we can do to help our to

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Speaker 4: help us Swiss sleep are to actually, once the time changes,

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Speaker 4: really stick to the you know, go ahead and go

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Speaker 4: can start doing things, you know, fifteen minutes or twenty

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Speaker 4: minutes earlier the week before. Most of us don't manage

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Speaker 4: to do that, but once the new time hits, you know,

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Speaker 4: really stick to it. It's if you can get to

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Speaker 4: sleep a little bit, you know, half an hour earlier

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Speaker 1: Doctor and Romaker, University of Cincinnati, Sleep Issues, Sleep Center.

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Speaker 1: the big one, doctor An Romaker, University of Cincinnati. Thanks

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Speaker 1: that goes along with that, and the one guy. I

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Speaker 1: don't think either one of them should have obviously had

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Speaker 1: weapons in that place, and neither one of them should

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Speaker 1: have had weapons just in general apparently, and they should

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Speaker 1: have been screened going in. And the one guy was

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Speaker 1: defending himself, but he still had a weapon he shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have had. So we do certainly have a problem about

446
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Speaker 1: judgment and about the usage of deadly force and so on.

447
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Speaker 1: I want to know what you think. Let's pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone, give it the finger five one, three, seven, four, nine,

449
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Speaker 1: eight hundred. The big one to Dell Hi dug for

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Speaker 1: f was Stirling on the big one in room for

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Speaker 1: you in this beautiful Sunday, Doug, what's shaking?

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Speaker 12: It is absolutely brings up, sir. I'm going to work

453
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Speaker 12: on a gutter real quick. But so look, I this

454
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Speaker 12: is something that I've dealt with recently. Just spent a

455
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Speaker 12: whole heaping load of money too. I got food over

456
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Speaker 12: forgotten that my firearm was in my center console from

457
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Speaker 12: the night before. I lived in a little bit of

458
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Speaker 12: a rough part of town. It went to the store

459
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Speaker 12: of the night before, left it in there, and I

460
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Speaker 12: was in the wrong. I had an open beer, charged

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Speaker 12: with using a firearm while in dods Kate Well One.

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Speaker 12: I didn't use it anyways, Yes, you gotta. I fought

463
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Speaker 12: and spent a lot of money just to be able

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Speaker 12: to keep my second notent right because I'm usually a

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Speaker 12: very very responsible firearm owner, and I respect the.

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Speaker 2: Right that I still have. You know, you're at the range.

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Speaker 12: With your buddies or something. Stuff can happen, some super

468
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Speaker 12: stuff can happen. I literally read the article about dude

469
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Speaker 12: last night. He also had a mortal across the forehead,

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Speaker 12: so that says a lot about him. What wild dude

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Speaker 12: you shot up with? Clovers, like, come on, you don't

472
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Speaker 12: shoot it nothing. I'm not gonna say. I ain't never

473
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Speaker 12: even let mine go on New Year's Eve. But right

474
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Speaker 12: into the grass, not into the air. They got away somewhere.

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Speaker 1: It's a brutal thing, and I'd never I'd heard about it,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, but I hadn't progressed beyond beating pants and

477
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Speaker 1: pots together as a child. But when I was in

478
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Speaker 1: New Orleans, that woman, it was New Year's we were

479
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Speaker 1: leaving a restaurant, and that the crowd went crazy. And

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Speaker 1: this is before what happened a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: This is quite a while ago, before I moved back

482
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Speaker 1: to Ohio and I we were all trying to figure

483
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Speaker 1: out what happened. And then it was like unbelievable, because

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Speaker 1: it never they do come down. They'll bust up a roof,

485
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Speaker 1: they'll bust up a vehicle, and they'll put a hole

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Speaker 1: in your head too, Doug.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate them.

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Speaker 12: Your bestelling on the radio on seven hundred, brother, I

489
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Speaker 12: wish you were on more than on the Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you the words and your listening. I'm curious,

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Speaker 1: So what happened when that when you went to court

493
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Speaker 1: and all that, you still have your right to have

494
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Speaker 1: the firearm.

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Speaker 5: What what are you doing different?

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Speaker 12: Well, I'll never I'll make sure one I'm not going

497
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Speaker 12: to drive with an open container at that point, had

498
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Speaker 12: my fire I'm not been in the car. I would

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Speaker 12: have got ticketed in sent on my way.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, you know what I mean? But I got you. Well,

501
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: it's relaxed. I think we got a Doug thank you.

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Speaker 1: So if people get calm and relaxed and speak like

503
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Speaker 1: they would if we were just hanging out, and it's

504
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Speaker 1: the sort of the way it goes, but it's tough

505
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Speaker 1: and decisions are a part of that.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know something else that came up just the other

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Speaker 1: day and a friend of mine said that he thought

509
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Speaker 1: it was over the top, and he said he had

510
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Speaker 1: mentioned because we've had conversations off the radio about it,

511
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Speaker 1: off the show and then also on the show here

512
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Speaker 1: and talking about parents who have kids who get their

513
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Speaker 1: hands on weapons and either go commit criminal acts or

514
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Speaker 1: get their hands on parents' guns, or they have their

515
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Speaker 1: own weapons and then they go out and do something

516
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Speaker 1: crazy and insane and dangerous and criminal or otherwise or

517
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Speaker 1: do worse and actually kill people or cause them harm.

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Speaker 1: And my take is simply this, if as a kid

519
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Speaker 1: and I was a young sterling, tiny sterling, and I

520
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Speaker 1: was out and I was vandalizing cars and houses in

521
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Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and my mom would have to of what

522
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Speaker 1: put men in a situation to be culpable for restitution

523
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Speaker 1: repair in making people whole as a result of my

524
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Speaker 1: activities and behaviors. In a court just recently did that

525
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Speaker 1: very thing to some extent with a parent who effectively

526
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Speaker 1: allowed their kid who they knew had mental problems, who

527
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Speaker 1: had issues with violence or at least fixated on school

528
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Speaker 1: shootings and so forth, and then they let him have weapons,

529
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Speaker 1: and then he went out and of course used those weapons,

530
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Speaker 1: and people like, well, that's just it's not the parent's fault,

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Speaker 1: Well when is it. At some point it's the young

532
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Speaker 1: person's fault. And at some point we grow up, regardless

533
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Speaker 1: of where we came from the environment we grew up in,

534
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Speaker 1: how little or how much we have, you are grown,

535
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Speaker 1: you do adult crimes. You're going to do adult cime

536
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Speaker 1: and should be held accountable and responsible. Accordingly, the other

537
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Speaker 1: side of the coin is if momy and daddy facilitate

538
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Speaker 1: that behavior, if mom, me and daddy ignore, turned a

539
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Speaker 1: blind eye, or are indifferent to those behaviors, the dangers,

540
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Speaker 1: the threat that they pose, not just to the neighborhood,

541
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Speaker 1: the community at large, or in the home, or to themselves.

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Speaker 1: Then they have failed. No different than if you manufacture

543
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Speaker 1: a car, or a widget or a pair of headphones

544
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Speaker 1: that may recavic or cause harm in the community, your others.

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Speaker 1: You should be held accountable. I don't think that is

546
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Speaker 1: over the top. You know what point?

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Speaker 7: You know?

548
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Speaker 1: Parents need to stand up and say, you know what,

549
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Speaker 1: we made this, we did this, and this is our

550
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Speaker 1: fault too. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, eight

551
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Speaker 1: hundred the big one your chance to get interactive? Uh

552
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: with me on the big one? And Tom now in

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Speaker 1: seven hundred, wulw Tom, what's going on?

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Speaker 13: Yeah? It's good, good afternoon, I guess it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you lost the hour. It's hard to say. It

556
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be noon yet and it's almost one. I want

557
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: to know where the hour went? Where is the hour?

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Speaker 2: Tom?

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Speaker 13: I'll tell you this. I have a friend of mine

560
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Speaker 13: that's from Michigan who lived in Ohio where I met her.

561
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Speaker 13: If she moved back to Michigan. She called me yesterday,

562
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Speaker 13: so I decided to call her that early. Norman. She

563
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 13: calls on Sunday. I said, you call me an hour early.

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Speaker 13: You called me a day an hour early. It's only Saturday,

565
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 13: so I didn't know that. Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Well, what can you do?

567
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Speaker 7: Right?

568
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 5: They're okay up there. I liked good fish and good

569
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Speaker 5: food too.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, uh yeah, this is this is quite a problem

571
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Speaker 13: for them to rule upon, I think because mentally, who

572
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 13: knows if this guy is saying or I'm saying, there's

573
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Speaker 13: a lot of irresponsible people. That's what really we're talking about.

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Speaker 13: And also parents now too. I don't know how they

575
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 13: were going to rule on this, but I wanted to

576
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Speaker 13: also bring up something they've been advertising on the radio.

577
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Speaker 13: I don't have TV. Uh this burner like, oh sure.

578
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, less less than lethal most of the time, type

579
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Speaker 1: of weapon, yeah, or defense.

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Speaker 13: I'm glad you said most of the time. Because they're

581
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Speaker 13: advertising they say everybody in the family should have of these. Well,

582
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Speaker 13: my god, children get a hold of guns. As it is,

583
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Speaker 13: they get a hold of one of these, if they

584
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Speaker 13: fired into the face of a brother or sister or

585
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Speaker 13: something like.

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah, bad bad things could happen. It's kind of

587
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: tough and you got to have you know lines. I mean,

588
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Speaker 1: I grew up in a household and i'd go to

589
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Speaker 1: my aunt and uncle's house for that matter, and you know,

590
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Speaker 1: hunting people. And they had it was a what do

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Speaker 1: you call it like a shotgun and rifle case or

592
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it where they were stored.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They even had like a deer head on the wall

595
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Speaker 1: with you know, and and and the the little hoofs

596
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Speaker 1: and then the like deer legs holding up like one

597
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: of those weapons in a crossbow. And I knew Tom

598
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: is a very young child that that had on the

599
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Speaker 1: wall those legs holding up that rifle as well as

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Speaker 1: the crossbow that was across the way being displayed.

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00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 5: Uh, was lethal.

602
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: And I knew that it was my ass if I

603
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: picked it up and misused it, let alone messed with it.

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00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 5: And I respected that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, here's also where we are. Parents. In church one

606
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Speaker 13: day a couple of weeks ago, there were two three

607
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 13: year three to four five year old sisters playing with

608
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Speaker 13: one of those smartphones yep, playing games during during services.

609
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 13: And I should see this all the time anymore that

610
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 13: the parents get it. It's not good, not healthy, No

611
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Speaker 13: kind of divides the family. The family is no longer

612
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 13: a unit, they're individual. That's terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of in that situation, it's kind of pacifier

614
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Speaker 1: if it's not loud and distractive to others, and it'll

615
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Speaker 1: keep in quiet. In that case, I can play a

616
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: game or read along. I remember when I was little,

617
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: I go to church, whatever. Sometimes I give me a

618
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: book besides the Bible to sort of keep me entertained

619
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Speaker 1: because obviously it run long. But there's no question the doom,

620
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: scrolling and getting sucked in there in social media stuff,

621
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of dangers, Tom, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: One final question before I let you bounce. I appreciate

623
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Speaker 1: you reaching out with the Supreme Court and the decision

624
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Speaker 1: about the issue of intoxic intoxicants. Do you think it's

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00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: any different for someone who occasionally has beer or or

626
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, some other type of alcoholic beverage or something

627
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: in marijuana, which is at this point legal for adults

628
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: to use recreationally or by way of you know, prescription

629
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Speaker 1: for medicinal purposes. As long as you're responsible with it,

630
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't make any difference that you consume these intoxicants and

631
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Speaker 1: have weapons or no.

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Speaker 7: Do you think well, I think they drop the case.

633
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 13: Myself, a spreme court, I don't think this should even

634
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 13: rule on one way or another. I don't know if

635
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 13: that's possible or not.

636
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: Well, they took the case, take it to the lower.

637
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 13: Put it back down to a lower court.

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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how it goes. Hopefully they make the

639
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: right decision. Tom, I appreciate the call man, and you're listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a quick break, give you a chance to

641
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: get interactive. Coming back as well later. Pat Brenham from

642
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati dot Com covers those reds. He's in the desert.

643
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him. He didn't lose an hour because

644
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: they don't change time in and around Goodyear, Arizona. I

645
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: believe the Navajo Nation maybe is also another area that

646
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: does not switch. But some of the state does, some

647
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: of the state does, and it's confusing. But either way,

648
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: he's not sleep deprived at least by that hour. He

649
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: might have been doing other stuff out there. I don't know.

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00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about one thirty five later on. Also,

651
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: International Studies expert Professor of history and Government Glenn Door

652
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: from Cedarville University going to join me after two o'clock

653
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about what's going on with Iran moving

654
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: forward with the region. I mean, there's so many different

655
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: pieces and parts and layers that go into that. It'll

656
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: be interesting to get his perspective and insights analyzing that.

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Speaker 1: After two o'clock hang out, Lots to do. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying a beautiful Sunday afternoon. Reds baseball coming up

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Speaker 1: about three point thirty five pre game, first pitch just

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Speaker 1: after four, right here from the desert, taking on those Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 5: Seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 12: This a.

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Speaker 5: Who's the Greatest American of all time? I vote for

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Speaker 5: Bill Cunningham.

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Speaker 4: I do too.

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Speaker 5: When I listen to Willie, I feel proud to be

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Speaker 5: an American. Imagine if you're in Luxembourg listening to Willie,

668
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Speaker 5: you'd think, Damn Luxembourg sucks. I want to be an

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Speaker 5: American American dream.

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Speaker 14: Sometimes I wish I could take Willy in my arms,

671
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Speaker 14: say thank you Willy, and plan a big wet one

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Speaker 14: on him.

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Speaker 6: Me too, Me too, Me too, Bill Cunningham tomorrow at

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Speaker 6: twelve noon on seven hundred.

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Speaker 8: W l W.

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Speaker 11: I'm Amanda Knox and in the new podcast Doubt The

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Speaker 11: Case of Lucy let Be we unpack the story of

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Speaker 11: an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 11: But what if we didn't get the whole story?

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Speaker 2: Now it's the moment you look at the whole picture

681
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Speaker 2: of the case collapse.

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Speaker 11: What if the truth was disguised by a story we

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Speaker 11: chose to believe?

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Speaker 5: My God, I think she might be innocent.

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Speaker 6: Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy.

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Speaker 11: Let be open your free iHeartRadio app search Doubt the

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Speaker 6: Let be and listen.

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Speaker 8: Now when you jump on the back of a pole

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Speaker 8: and the case swings.

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Speaker 1: You ever work at the cash register or customer service

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Speaker 1: and have somebody come in and not have a receipt

693
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Speaker 1: and look to return something that they say they bought

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Speaker 1: and they don't have the credit card, You go, well,

695
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: you have the credit card, we can check the receipt

696
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: and then you can compare and contrast. Someplaces it's easier,

697
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: at someplaces it's harder. And I'm not even talking about

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Speaker 1: like fraud. I'm talking about like you've got it, You've

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Speaker 1: had it in the back of your vehicle driving around,

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Speaker 1: if it's small like me, and you're like I've been

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Speaker 1: meaning to bring this back to the store.

702
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 5: I thought I had to receive my wallet.

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Speaker 1: I don't have it, and they kind of look at you,

704
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: and then there's a line, and then you're a spectacle

705
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what, I don't even care,

706
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. I'll take it with me anyway,

707
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: or they'll go well to give you a store credit

708
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: or something along those lines. There are people that aren't

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Speaker 1: innocent in that. There are people that this is their business,

710
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: is a criminal endeavor, and this story out of media

711
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Speaker 1: is a bewildering one to me, and I'm curious working

712
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Speaker 1: in retail, what you've encountered was someone trying to rip

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Speaker 1: you or the store off and bringing stuff back, because

714
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: I've heard some of this stuff is crazy and it

715
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: can be ridiculously expensive, and we all pay the price

716
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Speaker 1: in the end for this. This woman accused of bringing

717
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Speaker 1: in some seventeen hundred or more turns to home Depot

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00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: and a what they call a multi state organized retail

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Speaker 1: fraud scheme, was busted in part for fraudulent cost an

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Speaker 1: excess of two hundred and sixty thousand dollars more than

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Speaker 1: a quarter of a million dollars, which is hard for

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Speaker 1: me to even understand. And it wasn't one store, it

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Speaker 1: was a bunch of these stores, and apparently other people

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Speaker 1: would be involved. There were fake driver's license and IDs

725
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Speaker 1: with which then you kind of go, how do you

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Speaker 1: get a driver's license that's fake, that looks valid that

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Speaker 1: you can go in and do that, which, you know,

728
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions in associated with that. She

729
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: had other you know, aliases, they got store credit, ripped

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Speaker 1: people off in other ways. I guess going along with

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Speaker 1: that would resell some of the products online. In that situation,

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Speaker 1: she'd apparently in a group of these people or at

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Speaker 1: least just her, had gone to a store of Miamisburg,

734
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Speaker 1: also in Milford as well as up I guess we're

735
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Speaker 1: just closer to her home in Madina and some other

736
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Speaker 1: spots that go along with that, and into the Kentucky

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Speaker 1: I just it's amazing. I remember when I worked at

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Speaker 1: the grocery store, and I mean, you're selling food. It

739
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: was a regular grocery store. They called it the grocery bar,

740
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Speaker 1: and I've mentioned it before. I know, don't get annoyed,

741
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: but in this situation, the most glaring thing when it

742
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: comes to theft that comes to mind. Wasn't someone trying

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Speaker 1: to return food or anything else. It was a woman

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Speaker 1: who tried to steal like a frozen turkey and waddle

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Speaker 1: out of the store after checking out with like, I

746
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: don't know, some gum or something inconsequential. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's not like turkeys were ridiculously expensive, and if she

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Speaker 1: was really hungry, a frozen turkey wouldn't have done her

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Speaker 1: any good because you got a thought. You can't just

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Speaker 1: eat frozen bird. It doesn't work that way. And it

751
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: was a whole thing is she was trying to leave

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Speaker 1: the store and then like one of the guys mentioned,

753
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Speaker 1: something started to come at her and then she dropped

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Speaker 1: the bird and a tumbled. It was a big thing,

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Speaker 1: and she was wearing a sun dress. It was just

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Speaker 1: a lot of weirdness. And that's the most glaring thing.

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00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: I was at a big box retailer maybe in the

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Speaker 1: last month or two, and there was someone that they

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00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: had police out front, and I couldn't figure out, you know,

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: and I'm always like, well, is there something involved here

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00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: that I need to worry about? And I got to

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00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: go in and get like, I don't know a drywall

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Speaker 1: and I don't know spackling whatever. And I'm in there

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Speaker 1: and I see that someone had come in and overheard it.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to get into their business, but I

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Speaker 1: kind of dipped into the conversation at least hearing it.

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: And they had brought back like some power tools, and

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00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: apparently they had been They stole from the store the

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00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: same power tools, then brought them back trying to either

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Speaker 1: get money or exchange them for other products, and they

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00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: got caught, and that's what they were dealing with. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, if you work in retail, know what

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00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: you've had to encounter, because it makes it tough for

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Speaker 1: legit customer who has a need to exchange or return

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00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: something sometimes and it's it's crazy. I just don't I

776
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: can't process a quarter of a million dollars worth of stuff.

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00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: If you use the power of that thievery for positive

778
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: you probably can make even more money. That's a serious

779
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: business that takes time, that takes planning, that stakes, strategizing.

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Speaker 1: Five point three seven four nine seven eight hundred, The

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Speaker 1: Big One, talk Back, the iHeartRadio app. Click on that microphone,

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Speaker 1: leave a message. Let's get to Montgomery. And Linda was

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Speaker 1: sterling on the big one. Hey, how are you fine?

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Speaker 15: Just coming back to a uh perfect north It's carnival

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Speaker 15: day out there.

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Speaker 5: Oh nice.

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Speaker 15: They know how to celebrate the end of season.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, and it is close to the season.

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Speaker 1: I know it's sad for a lot of people, but

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's almost shorts weather, and I can

791
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: almost smell the freshly cut grass a great American ballpark

792
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: and the weeds growing in my yard.

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Speaker 15: And there weren't people out there skiing in shorts.

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Speaker 5: So the way it should be, right, good time. That's awesome.

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Speaker 15: Okay, So I'm gonna give you a couple extremes. Some

796
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 15: check out at Walmart. I'm a very honest person. I

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Speaker 15: get through and I realized I didn't scan something. There's

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Speaker 15: a person standing there. Nothing caught. I went back through

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Speaker 15: and I scanned the item for which I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't pay right, Yeah, now, which and.

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Speaker 15: I'm trying to tell them, guys, you need to have

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00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 15: a better system. Now to the totally opposite extreme Kroger,

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00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 15: Like I laid down in the self checkout. I laid

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Speaker 15: down a prescription above the bagging area. So I thought

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00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 15: it goes you have laid something down in the bagging area.

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00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 15: And you haven't paid for it, so please remove it.

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Speaker 2: So I had to hold my.

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Speaker 15: Prescriptions of Kroger knows if you are holding something that

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Speaker 15: you haven't paid for it.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure why other places Jump aren't as good

812
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Speaker 15: as Broker. And then at some place that was really good,

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Speaker 15: and then that I thought a stupid move was TJ Max.

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Speaker 15: It used to be they had a separate return plate,

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Speaker 15: so when you want in with a return, you returned

816
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Speaker 15: it before you went shopping. Now you might as well

817
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 15: go shopping. Well, who's to say you get the pick

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Speaker 15: up something?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: You know, So that's all I got but sun topic

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Speaker 15: and enjoy the sunshine.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. I'm gonna try even though I have a

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Speaker 5: window into a hallway.

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Speaker 1: At least I can live vicariously through your you and

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00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: enjoying the Sunday sun. You know something else? And ben

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Speaker 1: in price still just message that Stirling radio on x uh.

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Speaker 1: What about changing stickers and prices?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: That was something they told me to watch out for

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Speaker 1: when I worked at the grocery store. But I don't

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00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: know many places now grocery stores are otherwise? How many

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00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: places actually have a price tag on the stuff I mean,

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00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: maybe if you're buying clothing and there's a tag, but

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you whether you're going to a big

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Speaker 1: box retailer or a grocery store. Pick a brand that

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00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: you may be frequenting. I don't know that anybody still

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00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: has the stickers, and I would have to go. I

838
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: remember that was a big thing, and there's a lot

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00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: of money to be saved now thanks to the bar

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00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: code and inventory automatically being done generally, but it doesn't

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00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: always work because we've I don't know if you've dealt

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00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: with this. You go to the website. It says, well,

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00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: you can have it ordered and delivered later today or tomorrow.

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00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: But there's you know, five of them in stock. Pick

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00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: the name of the store at location, and then you

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00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: go and then it tells you where it is, and

847
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: then it's not there. And then you go to the

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00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: counter and you go, hey, I'm looking for this. It

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00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: says you have five in stock. They go, you can't

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00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: trust the website. I go, well, do you know what

851
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: you have? He goes, yeah, there's nothing there. I said,

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00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: why is it? Say on the website? It's slow, So

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00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: what's the point of it? I don't know. So then

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00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: you're in that weird kind of odd situation that goes

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Speaker 1: with it. But I would have to at the grocery,

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00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, you'd price everything other than the actual like

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00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: produce you couldn't price directly, you'd weigh it or whatever else,

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Speaker 1: and you'd have like the ink little gun that you would,

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00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, go and literally the tops of cans or

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00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: boxes or the stickers, and you'd see people and you

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Speaker 1: could tell that they had tried to peel off a

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00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: sticker because they would be deliberately perforated in parts so

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00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: that if you did it, it would tear apart and

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00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: you couldn't get away with it. But some people were

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Speaker 1: very skilled at it, which again, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: take that kind of time, doing something legal and not

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Speaker 1: thieving from someone might be a better path.

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Speaker 5: It's just bizarre.

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Speaker 1: What if you've seen if you work in customer service

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Speaker 1: with either somebody trying to rip the store off or

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00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: coming in trying to exchange stuff or get a re

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00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: fun for stuff they haven't bought, it's difficult and to like,

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Speaker 1: you know, she just mentioned before I let her go,

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Speaker 1: Su said that I can recall being at a big

875
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: box retailer. I left and there was something in the cart.

876
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: They were checking me out and missed as I was

877
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: loading up the back of the car. I went back

878
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: in with it. It was like a thing of batteries

879
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: and they were like, you got to return. I'm like, no,

880
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: it didn't get wrung out. Here's my receipt. I want

881
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: to pay for it. And they acted like I was

882
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: a unicorn, and she was like, you brought it back.

883
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what else was I gonna do with it?

884
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: And it's just because you know, I hear my mom

885
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: in the back of my head going, don't be a thief.

886
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: Don't be a thief. I raised you better than that.

887
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: Boy to Mount Ora and Mike was sterling on seven

888
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

889
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: How you doing, man, good?

890
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 9: How are you doing today?

891
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 5: I'm doing all right.

892
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Have you been ripped off or or what have you

893
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: seen when it comes to people trying to scam retail stuff?

894
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if it's actually retail, but I

895
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 9: was general manager for McDonald's for like twenty years and

896
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 9: I had a store and I don't say where it was,

897
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 9: but constantly people would come in with their own cups.

898
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 9: I fill up the pop and walk out like they

899
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 9: own the place.

900
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh you mean they wouldn't even offer to pay the

901
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: refill price or anything.

902
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: No, they just come in and fill it up and

903
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 2: take off.

904
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 8: Oh wow.

905
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 9: And I I chased one woman out to the car

906
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 9: and picked on her window and said, hey, you owe

907
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 9: me a buck twenty five?

908
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 5: How'd that go?

909
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 9: And he was digging in her purse and trying, you know,

910
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 9: get me some money. It just it's not you know,

911
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 9: the food cost on that is nearly nothing. Yeah, it's

912
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 9: the point that they just.

913
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: Walk in, principal man and walk out.

914
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 9: And I'm just like them.

915
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: Now, you would appreciate this because of what you're talking about.

916
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: There was a window of time. It's been years ago.

917
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: I went into a sandwich shop and I had at

918
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: that point, I was accumulating these go cups from that

919
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: sandwich shop. I had bought like three of these cups.

920
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: I got a few others and they all had very

921
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: similar coloration and logos. So I brought in the refill cup,

922
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: ordered my sandwich and chips and all the other stuff

923
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: and said I had to refill. And the guy go

924
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: and I filled it and he goes, that's not our cup,

925
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: and he got like aggrabate I said, it looks just

926
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: like the cup you're selling. In fact, it's smaller, right,

927
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: And it was like a big dude, I saw I

928
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: pay the real price. I said, I don't care what

929
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: refaill price. I'm thirsty and I want to eat. And

930
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: I was trying to do the right thing, and the

931
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: guy got mad. I'm like, I can go across the

932
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: street and buy the same cup almost exactly. That's where

933
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: it gets confusing. But just bringing a cup in and

934
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: trying to hi, you know, a penny's worth of soda,

935
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

936
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 9: Now tell you what I would do. People would come

937
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 9: in with Burger King coupons or whatever.

938
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 7: I'd take them, yeah, because.

939
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 9: Like I said, I'd rather they buy their food here

940
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 9: than to go across the street.

941
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 5: All day every day.

942
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 9: It's not like I was being a miser, you know,

943
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 9: and trying pinch pennies. Necessarily. It's just a point of

944
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 9: the audacity to just walk into somebody's place of business

945
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 9: and just fill up and walk out.

946
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 16: Yeah.

947
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: No, that's that. No matter what it is, it doesn't matter.

948
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

949
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it takes some serious stones to think that

950
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: you just walk in someplace, do that and leave. I

951
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: mean that's just crazy. I mean, I feel weird even

952
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: doing it. When I go up and they said, just

953
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: take your lit off and we'll refill it, I'm like, Okay,

954
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: that seems sanitary, Mike. I appreciate the call man. Take

955
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: care of yourself. Glad you're glad you're listening to being

956
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: a part of the show. That that's that's wild, you know,

957
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: the stuff that you come up with and that people

958
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: talk about, or whatever else.

959
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: Some of the other things.

960
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: Wardrobing is is a term for retail returns, where people

961
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: purchase an item, they use it, then they return it

962
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: for a full refund. I can remember in high school

963
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: times around prom season or homecoming, and I went to

964
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: like I think two proms, none of which, by the way,

965
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: were my high school other ones and for some reason,

966
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why it worked out that way. And

967
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I remember the one girl I was going out with

968
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: she was like, I got to return this dress.

969
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 5: We got to keep it nice.

970
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, what, because it didn't even I

971
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: didn't understand what she was saying. She goes, yeah, I'm

972
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna return it, so but you're wearing it. And I

973
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: remember coming home later on and I'm like, Mom, what

974
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: is that she goes?

975
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: You have people do that.

976
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: The other thing is that I mentioned the stolen item

977
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: and then bring it back for a reef or whatever else.

978
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes even though ILL have some type of odd receipt

979
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: where they bought it once but stolen multiple items and

980
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: then try to have a duplicate receipt for that, which

981
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: is odd. Alex, but not our Alex Egan and other

982
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: Alex and sometimes for a long time I thought it

983
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: was the same. And I'm like, but if you're gonna

984
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: act like you're somebody else, maybe change your name. But

985
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: it's not him, a different Alex, you said. He mentions

986
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: the manipulating the price by swapping UPC stickers, which is yeah,

987
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's like the barcode, which is no different

988
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: than the other tags that I was mentioning before. And

989
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: then something else, uh, the empty box return which I've

990
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: never heard of this. And I remember being a kid

991
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: in working at the one place and there was a

992
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: guy who constantly they just made fun of and abused

993
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, you're just dumber than a box

994
00:47:59,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: of rocks.

995
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 5: Well, effectively, it's.

996
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Like returning a box and you either put you know,

997
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: something else in the box that wasn't the right thing,

998
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: or even like a different product, or perhaps fill it

999
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: with other things that are heavy that aren't actually the

1000
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: product and then make it look like it's sealed.

1001
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 5: But how much work do you have to do?

1002
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Couldn't you just go out and do the work to

1003
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: get the stuff that's right? I mean, it is amazing,

1004
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: and the science and the technology with AI, and you know,

1005
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: as they watch people through stores and so forth, sometimes

1006
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: people get yelled at or caught when it's inappropriate and

1007
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything wrong, which is always wild. You

1008
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: can go down the rabbit hole of that on YouTube,

1009
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: which is spectacular, the good or bad of it. But

1010
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: it is just amazing the lengths that people will go

1011
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: to steal stuff. It's just weird. And I just can't

1012
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: imagine accumulating. I mean, I would like to know how

1013
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: many years or if how much time was spent for

1014
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: this woman in whatever group of people she may or

1015
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: may not have been working with, allegedly Mandiga to end

1016
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: up in a situation where she had more than a

1017
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: quarter of a million dollars worth of stuff. And you know,

1018
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: they probably weren't documenting all the thievery that she was

1019
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: involved in. But beyond that, I mean, that's a huge

1020
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: amount of money. I mean, seriously, it's you can almost

1021
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: hear the prices rising as a result of that. She's

1022
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: been ordered to actually make that restitution, but she's going

1023
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: to go to jail, So I don't know whether they

1024
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: make license plates or tricky triangles or whatever it is

1025
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: that they pay you for in very little while you're

1026
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: locked up. That's a significant sum of money to be

1027
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: able to come up with and try to make restitution

1028
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: on perhaps like maybe the rest of her life. I mean,

1029
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's a house depending, you know, or really

1030
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: really nice like man cave or something. I mean, I

1031
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: don't know, you could live really well for a little bit.

1032
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1033
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: One hundred hours of community service too, there's no money

1034
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: in that, so I don't know where she's going to

1035
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: get the restitution. That's crazy. Coming up, by the way,

1036
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: after your one thirty report. Pat Brennan from Cincinnati dot Com.

1037
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: He covers the Reds for the inquiry plus Bengals too,

1038
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: but he's out in the desert where the Reds are

1039
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: going to take on the Diamondbacks three thirty five. First

1040
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: pitch today, we'll talk to him about the Reds and

1041
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: how they're looking, and the World Baseball Classic and issues

1042
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: with Hunter Green and how promising things look moving ahead,

1043
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other stuff. So hang out.

1044
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: There's that coming up as well as doctor Glenn Dur

1045
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: from Cedarville University. We'll talk about what's happening with Iran,

1046
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: the Middle East and the war that has effectively cost

1047
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: us a lot. I got gassed for two eleven the

1048
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: first part. It was like right lead just after I

1049
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: think we went to war just before. And then I

1050
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: got das the other day and it went from two

1051
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: to eleven, and then I got it for like a

1052
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: two ninety nine, and then I see it for three

1053
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: fifty I think across the street. So we're paying there

1054
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: and then it's going to go up again. Not to

1055
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: be the profit of doom, but I'm here to help

1056
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: because there'll be the summer blend. We're enjoying the warm

1057
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: weather a little prematurely, this early spring feeling in this

1058
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: late winter time in the Tri State. Well, when they

1059
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: start putting that summer blend oil and they got to

1060
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: shut down these refineries and then switch over, that's going

1061
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: to cost us too.

1062
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: So I mean, I don't mean to bring you down.

1063
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I do apologize.

1064
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Sandy Collins will bring you up with positive news and

1065
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: information that matters to all of us. Then we'll talk

1066
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: rets and a whole lot more. On a Sunday, Stirling

1067
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: on the Nation Station seven hundred WLW.

1068
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Speaker 8: The world holds its breath after the United States bombed

1069
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 8: Iran's nuclear facilities. Will diplomacy be wess erected from the

1070
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 8: rubble or will the conflict continue? Keep it here for

1071
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 8: the latest updates on seven hundred l dawadu Are tax

1072
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 8: inefficiencies quietly draining your wealth? Scott Hansen here inviting you

1073
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: to an exclusive.

1074
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Web everything getting ready for Reds baseball and the desert

1075
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: taking on those Diamondbacks after the three point thirty Here

1076
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW with a pregame and they're showing

1077
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 1: some dog food ad and there's a bowl of food

1078
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at I'm like, that looks great.

1079
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 5: It makes me hungry.

1080
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm guessing the ballpark food is probably better than that.

1081
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 5: A good year.

1082
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: Pat Brennan covers the Reds and Bengals for Cincinnati dot

1083
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Speaker 1: Com The Inquirer.

1084
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: Welcome to seven hundred WLW. It's been a while.

1085
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: How is the desert treating you?

1086
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: You know, I can't complain about the weather, so I

1087
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: got that much going for me. But I heard it's

1088
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: been nice and Cincinnati two.

1089
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty Maybe it's pretty all right, it's feeling

1090
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: that way. We will will probably, as usual, get spanked

1091
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: one more time. Maybe Alex Egan was mentioning off of

1092
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: the years. It probably like Opening Day, it will snow,

1093
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: which I've seen. Let's help, Yeah, let's help. There's a

1094
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: there's another bat of cold coming for sure. Yeah, don't

1095
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: be the profit of doom. You're bringing me down patch.

1096
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not why we have But that's all right,

1097
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: that's all right. So you the rest of us are

1098
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: dragging a little bit because they stole an hour from us.

1099
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't know where they took it. I don't know

1100
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: where it went. You didn't have to worry about that

1101
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: in Arizona because there's no time change.

1102
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's nice here. But yeah, I thought I

1103
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: thought the uh high branches of our government were our bureaucracy.

1104
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: We're working on this uh this daylight savings thing, trying

1105
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: to eliminate it. I guess that hasn't happened yet.

1106
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: They tried it years ago. I don't know. You can't.

1107
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: You know, you can try to change time, you can't

1108
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: change time. Time changes you. I've heard that somewhere, I

1109
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: don't know where I am. Yeah, I know that was

1110
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: cliche as all hell Sorr was. Yeah, man, it's the caffeine.

1111
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: Everything's fine. All right, let's talk baseball for a minute here. So, uh,

1112
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: let's start first of all, Hunter Green, what do we

1113
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: know about because he was coming back to Cincinnati right

1114
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: to get looked at it and see exactly how he's doing.

1115
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no official updates on Hunter yet.

1116
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 7: You know.

1117
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: Obviously last week it came out that he had been

1118
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: dealing with the right elbow stiffness.

1119
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 7: Dating back to last year.

1120
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: Had gone through a couple rounds of what I would

1121
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: characterize is relatively minor treatment to kind of allow him

1122
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: to work through that. But it obviously after his first

1123
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: start of the spring, he didn't quite bounce back the

1124
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: way he wanted to.

1125
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 7: So the Red has just.

1126
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Decided, whatever this is, we got a nipant in the

1127
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: bud now. So he did go back to Cincinnati. He

1128
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 2: was supposed to see the team doctor Tim Kremchek get

1129
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: an MRI there, and then he'll go out to La

1130
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: to see doctor Neil Latrash, who's a real kind of

1131
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: heavy hitter in this industry with high profile sports figures.

1132
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: I think he's also a team doctor for the Dodgers.

1133
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: But the Reds are still in the process of gathering

1134
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: all the information and we're still kind of in waiting

1135
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: CE mode out here in Goodyear.

1136
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: Pat Brennan, what does that mean for the red starting

1137
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: rotation and opening day because you would figure Hunter Green

1138
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: might be that guy.

1139
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 2: Well, actually, I don't know if he saw this. It

1140
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: just came down in the last thirty minutes. The Reds

1141
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: have named Andrew Abbott their opening day starter, so.

1142
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 7: And that was somewhat to be expected.

1143
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: And that's not really to say with any certainty that

1144
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: I mean there, we don't have official certainty on what

1145
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: Hunter Green is dealing with. But while he's been away

1146
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: seeking medical advice, the Reds shut him down for this week.

1147
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: The earliest, the absolute earliest he would have been able

1148
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: to throw, would have been Tuesday, which would have meant

1149
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 2: a full week of being down.

1150
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 7: And I think.

1151
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: There were people that probably thought Tuesday probably was not realistic.

1152
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: So Hunter's losing time at this stage in spring training,

1153
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: you know time, each missing a day has kind of

1154
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 2: a multiplying factor as we get closer to opening day.

1155
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 2: So whether Hunter Green's injury was serious or not, it's certain.

1156
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 2: And Terry Francona eventually conceded this when we were talking

1157
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: about Hunter when we.

1158
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 7: First learned about the injury.

1159
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: You know, the math is not in his favor in

1160
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: terms of starting the year on time. That doesn't necessarily

1161
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: mean Andrew Abbatt didn't start the year on time. And

1162
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: look at the year he had. He was an All Star,

1163
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: he got some cy Young votes and now he's your

1164
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: opening day starter.

1165
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 7: So no one is precluding.

1166
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: Hunter from having a you know, being a contributing member

1167
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: of this Reds team yet.

1168
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 7: But.

1169
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: It looks very unlike that he would be able to

1170
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: start the season on time at this stage at Sterling.

1171
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: Talking to Pat Brnnan, Cincinnati dot Com covers the Reds

1172
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: for the inquiry, he's out in Goodyear, Arizona and yeah,

1173
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean the hope is that you shut him down,

1174
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: you get him fixed or healthy, mended up, so when

1175
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: he is able to get back out there, that you know,

1176
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't end up being back and forth from you know,

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: injured list or otherwise or damage himself even more.

1178
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: What's this deal with? Like done?

1179
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: I was, I was watching some video and it looked

1180
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: like he jacked up his knee. Was it yesterday the

1181
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: day before? And then I know he had had some

1182
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: problem before that where he was hit by a pitch

1183
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: or something.

1184
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Blake done.

1185
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: It sounds like dodged a bullet. It's a it's a

1186
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: relatively minor knee injury that he's dealing with. And he

1187
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: said yesterday, and Terry Francona said again today that you know,

1188
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: he might miss as few as.

1189
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 7: A couple of days and that'll be the end of it.

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 7: So it was an ugly injury.

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00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: And it happened over on the other side of the

1192
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: valley here in Scottsdale. He came rushing in from deeper

1193
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: in center to shallow center to try to catch up

1194
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: to a kind of a softly hit fly ball and

1195
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: just got just got himself tangled up, and it looked

1196
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: pretty ugly.

1197
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 7: But I think he even said to me in the

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 7: clubhouse yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Once he walked off the field, mostly under his own strength,

1200
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: he started to feel, you.

1201
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 7: Know, a little bit better.

1202
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: He'd had some experience. I think he tore the ACL

1203
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: in that same on that same leg when he was

1204
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: in high school, so he had some awareness of, you know,

1205
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: on top of being a professional athlete, these guys know

1206
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: their bodies so well. He had some initial it was.

1207
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: There was definitely a scare factor for him in the

1208
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: immediate aftermath of going down, But once he started to

1209
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: walk off the field, I think he realized that it

1210
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: was it was an okay situation, and the evaluations that

1211
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: followed that I've kind of more or less confirmed that

1212
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: not a huge deal.

1213
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 7: Good good.

1214
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you hear these stories.

1215
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not always like an a pendant race where

1216
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: somebody's like, now I'm going to suck it up and

1217
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: deal with it.

1218
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 5: My arm can fall off, that I'll have the winter.

1219
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: But going into a season and guys that you know,

1220
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: depending on where they are in their lifespan as a

1221
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: professional Major League baseball player, you kind of wonder how

1222
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: much stuff. Sometimes they keep quiet about aches and pains,

1223
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: but because you know, the season between now in the

1224
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: end of September, that's a long way, and people talk

1225
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: about it being a grind it is.

1226
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 5: It really is.

1227
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 7: It is, it absolutely is.

1228
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: And the thing about Blake Done is I've heard people

1229
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: say that this spring he's looked like a different ballplayer.

1230
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: And he had a stint or two with the big

1231
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: league squad last year and was generally productive and that

1232
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: relatively minor role. But uh, Terry Francona said today, he's

1233
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 2: really been competing and he's one of these guys that's

1234
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: gonna you know, everyone, someone another writer out here said

1235
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: to me about this Reds team. He said, that must

1236
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: be kind of boring covering the Reds right now because

1237
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: most of the roster spots seem to be spoken for,

1238
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: and you know, the pitching is kind of just going

1239
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: to fall into place the way you.

1240
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 7: Expect it to.

1241
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: But now that that hasn't been the case, you know,

1242
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: Hunter Green gets injured, that shakes things up, and obviously,

1243
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: you know you want to see him come back as

1244
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: soon as possible. But and then then you have guys

1245
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: that kind of can show up unexpectedly and fresh really

1246
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: pressed the expected regular players really really hard. Blake Dumb

1247
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: was part of that competition out here. So when push

1248
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: comes to show up, there will be compelling stories coming

1249
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: out of this camp about how close some of these

1250
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: position battles ended up being. And then of course a

1251
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: guy like Blake Dunn, you figure you're him to contribute

1252
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: at some point along the way anyway, because further injuries,

1253
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: future injuries, stuff like that.

1254
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1255
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: Pat Brandon covers the Reds for the inquiries in the

1256
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: Desert Goodyear Arizona Reds and Diamondbacks. Later on four five

1257
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: first pitch pregame three thirty five, I'll take you right

1258
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: up to it. On seven hundred WLW you mentioned the

1259
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: roster spot issues. Uh in how many spots I've heard too?

1260
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 5: Now?

1261
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: Maybe one? But again, you know, constantly it's you know, pitching, pitching, pitching.

1262
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: You can never have enough in a couple of weeks ago.

1263
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, nobody's hurt. Now, you got Hunter Green,

1264
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: you got guys getting dinged up. How are we with

1265
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: roster spots? What do you think who's coming north with

1266
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: the club And it's just a couple of weeks away?

1267
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean it's the you know, I think

1268
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: the guys that are interesting.

1269
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 7: To look at right now, are you know?

1270
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 10: All? Well?

1271
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: I'll do like pitchers versus position players first, you know,

1272
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: Graham Ashcraft is a is one of your leverage relievers,

1273
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: and he's gotten hit pretty hard so far this spring.

1274
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: And you know, Andrew Abbitt got hit somewhat hard against

1275
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: the Giants the other day.

1276
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 7: But you know, it was nice to hear him come.

1277
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: Out afterwards and say like, well, I'm done experimenting and

1278
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm done tinkering. Now I'm going to get down to

1279
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: the business of pitching the way I would in the

1280
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: regular season. At leads to the extent that he's conditioned

1281
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: for that at this point, So you knew that. You know,

1282
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: Andrew was just working on things which you expect at

1283
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: this point. Now we're two and a half weeks away from.

1284
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 7: Opening day, he can get down to business.

1285
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't get the sense that this was a situation,

1286
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: or this has been a situation where Graham Ashcraft was tinkering.

1287
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 7: I think it's just been a little bit of a

1288
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 7: little bit laborious forms.

1289
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: It's been hard for him so far, and I think

1290
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: that was especially evident earlier this past week against Cuba,

1291
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: which was a team that was completely and totally overmatched

1292
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: by by the Reds.

1293
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 7: But Graham had.

1294
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: Trouble in that Gamelyn. Look, I think he'll be fine

1295
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: but you just wonder breaking camp, if you know, if

1296
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: any of if anyone that you figure is sharpeet onto

1297
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: this roster could potentially dig themselves a big enough hole

1298
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: if they can't get out of it, at least for

1299
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: to start.

1300
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 7: The season on time. And then position player.

1301
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: Wise, I think there are four spots available. Jose Travino

1302
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: is clearly an undisputed lock for one of those, and

1303
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: then you have JJ Blade, Dane Myers, who I also

1304
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: think looks good right now. Nathaniel Lowe, who has an

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Speaker 2: incredible story. It's kind of happening in real time at

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Speaker 2: camp right now he's playing.

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Speaker 1: How cool is that to watch, by the way, where

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Speaker 1: you see someone start to shine like him right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's great, and it's the most compelling

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Speaker 2: part of it is that I'm benown to us his

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Speaker 2: mother passed away from a long battle with cancer on

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Speaker 2: March fifth, whatever day of the week that was last week.

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Speaker 2: But he played in that game against the Dodgers that

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Speaker 2: day and hit a home run and we didn't, none

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Speaker 2: of us do about that in the media corps until

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Speaker 2: after the fact, and we just spoke to Nate about

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Speaker 2: it this morning. So he's he's playing kind of to.

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Speaker 7: Honor his mom right now.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's super admirable and interesting. And he's gonna

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Speaker 2: stay in camp. He stayed in camp and is going

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Speaker 2: to stay in camp and try to win a roster

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Speaker 2: spot for himself. So and then you know, look, getting

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Speaker 2: back to the big view of those four available spots

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Speaker 2: bench spots, well, Benson has to be in that conversation,

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Speaker 2: and you know, that's five players right there that you

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Speaker 2: would like to have on this team. But the way

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Speaker 2: I see it, there are only four spots for those

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Speaker 2: five names. And there might be other guys that I'm

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Speaker 2: over I'm overlooking at the moment, but you know that, uh,

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Speaker 2: those are the kinds of Blake don We're just talking

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Speaker 2: about him.

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Speaker 7: He's had a good camp.

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Speaker 2: There are just gonna be these guys are gonna do

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Speaker 2: what the Reds need them to do, which is force

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Speaker 2: Terry Francona and his staff to make really tough decisions.

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Speaker 7: That's ultimately what you want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good spot to be in, right,

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Speaker 1: to make tough choices like that, because then down on

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Speaker 1: the farm you've got other options and ships perhaps later

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Speaker 1: to give guys an opportunity to play elsewhere and bring

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Speaker 1: in talent that can bring you know something later on too.

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Speaker 1: Pat Brennan, by the way, covers the Reds for Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: dot Com. That's the inquiry if you didn't know. He's

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Speaker 1: in Arizona playing and the desert giving us some time

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Speaker 1: on the Big One with Sterling on a Sunday before

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Speaker 1: they play the Diamondbacks four oh five. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about pitching too, and I don't want to twist too

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Speaker 1: far off the beaten path, as Lance would say, but

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Speaker 1: I'm curious the last couple of years we've seen more

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Speaker 1: of these openers rather than starters. And then the issue

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Speaker 1: of bullpen, and we talk depth on pitching and out

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01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: the game. A lot of conversations. I peeped the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks on this. It's interesting to see the

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Speaker 1: progress going where really the differentiation from starting pitching to

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Speaker 1: the bullpen and how guys work that that's maybe more

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Speaker 1: vague or grayer than it's ever been, just because you're

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Speaker 1: looking for somebody to come in and give you four

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Speaker 1: innings or three and it's whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Yeah, I'd say I generally agree with everything

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Speaker 2: you just said. Uh, you know, last year that was

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Speaker 2: the Brent Suter role or or the Nick Martinez role.

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Speaker 2: I mean one of Nick Martinez is many roles for

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Speaker 2: this team, but you had a couple what what guys

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Speaker 2: there who I just amed, who were so well suited

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's extremely interesting, and I guess it's a sort

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Speaker 1: of a transitional period. We got just a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes left the other thing. That's been nice to see.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what Terry Francona has said about this,

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Speaker 1: and obviously you know they've made some changes as far

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Speaker 1: as coaching is concerned. But what we've seen, and we

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Speaker 1: know Suarez has come back into the full home again

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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati and so forth, but we have seen an

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Speaker 1: onslaught of offensive production that has been effectively spectacular. What

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Speaker 1: have they said about what could be if it goes well?

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Speaker 1: More of a murderer's row of consistency in really producing offense?

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Speaker 7: You're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean they scored fifty runs over three games this

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Speaker 2: past week and that was with has you know, Suarez around,

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Speaker 2: he's away at the World Baseball Classic at the moment.

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Speaker 7: Also still hitting home runs there by the way, Yes see, but.

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Speaker 2: You know it's tough to get a read on I

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: think at this point in camp, honestly, you can't read

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Speaker 2: into the stats. We had an interesting conversation in Tito's

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Speaker 2: office this morning, Starling where we were talking about the effect.

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Speaker 7: Of the wind out here that reads.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers game last week on Mark fifth, that where Nate

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Speaker 2: Low hit his home run.

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Speaker 7: The day is Mother Pat. There were ten home runs

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Speaker 7: in that game.

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Speaker 2: There was a humongous, stiff breeze blowing out that day.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday up in surprise, the wind was knocking balls down

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Speaker 2: left and right. So you know that's one of the

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Speaker 2: and the wind is just one of the reasons out

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Speaker 2: here that Terry Frankcona just doesn't look at stats, doesn't

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Speaker 2: care about stats, spring training stats. We know the games

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Speaker 2: don't matter, but he doesn't even use the statistics as

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Speaker 2: part of his evaluation, or if he does, it's to

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Speaker 2: the smallest, smallest extent. He's he's an eye test guy,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like, which is refreshing to me. And there

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Speaker 2: are plenty of people in the organizations who are gonna

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Speaker 2: put numbers in front of him and they'll they'll use

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Speaker 2: that information wisely and the way they need to.

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Speaker 7: But he know's a big eye test guy. And but there's.

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Speaker 2: No question, you know, I asked him after they hit

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Speaker 2: the fifty run threshold over the three games. I think

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Speaker 2: that was after the Dodgers game. Uh, I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know you don't care about stats, but at some

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Speaker 2: point this all this scoring and hitting has.

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Speaker 7: To be meaningful.

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Speaker 2: And he said, oh, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 7: I mean he'd rather see them. That's better than the alternatives.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right, yeah, you don't want offensive anemia.

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Speaker 1: Bring home the runs and manufacture what's necessary, whether they

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Speaker 1: go out of the ballpark or not.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see how it comes together.

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Speaker 1: Pat, thanks for making time on a Sunday here, and

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Speaker 1: we lost the hour you didn't so you don't care

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Speaker 1: hanging out.

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Speaker 7: I'll lose it on the back end in a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, added bonus. That's right. You'll be tan,

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Speaker 1: resting and relaxed. Make sure you're ready for snow and

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Speaker 1: welcome down. He's Pat Brennan covers the Reds for Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: dot Com The Acquire Thanks for making time.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you, man, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it, buddy, Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 5: Take care of yourself.

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Speaker 1: More sterling coming back after your two o'clock report we'll

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Speaker 1: talk Middle East issues the Iran wore doctor Glendor from

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Speaker 1: Cedarville University right here with Sterling on the home of

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Speaker 1: the Red seven hundred w WELW, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: I'm Amanda Knox. And in the new podcast Doubt the

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Speaker 11: Case of Lucy let Be, we unpack the story of

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Speaker 11: an unimaginab.

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Speaker 1: Now about what's going on in the Middle East and

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Speaker 1: with the US Israel war against Iran, but someone who

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Speaker 1: does know a thing or two about international studies, an

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Speaker 1: expert in fact, and share a history and government Cedarville

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Speaker 1: University and Beaver Creek City Council member. Holy crap, he's

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Speaker 1: got a lot on his play giving us some time

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday afternoon, Sterling, Doctor Glenn Door, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 5: How are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 6: Yourself?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm okay, I'm missing an hour, but I

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Speaker 1: think I've maybe filled up the vacant hour with the

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Speaker 1: extra caffeine. So I'll try to like throttle it down

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Speaker 1: to be able to have a reasonable conversation. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you making time. As we stand right now

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Speaker 1: a week into this and what seems to be a

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Speaker 1: very widespread engagement of hostilities in and around the region

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Speaker 1: between Bahrain and Kuwait, issues and cutter in Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Iran in questions about the threat of terrorism around

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Speaker 1: that region, but also domestically, how do you see this

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Speaker 1: Iran war thing moving at this point and where we are.

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Speaker 14: If we back up to December of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 14: we saw really significant protests in Iran, really the largest

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Speaker 14: since the nineteen seventy nine revolution, and the regime put

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Speaker 14: it down very very heavy handedly. Internal estimates suggests five

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Speaker 14: thousand dead, but externally some thirty five thousand. It's really

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Speaker 14: been absolutely brutal, coupled with a sputtering economy, a currency

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Speaker 14: that can't really be exchanged on the international market, and

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Speaker 14: a regime that's put together an attempted nuclear weapon where

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Speaker 14: it's spread out across one hundred and thirty sites. The

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Speaker 14: country that's very difficult, is heavily authoritarian, and so in

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Speaker 14: the interim week, certainly a lot of successes in terms

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Speaker 14: of neutralizing major leaders, including the Iyatola, putting a Ran

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Speaker 14: on its heels. Certainly, there's uncertainty around the oil industry

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Speaker 14: and natural gas with the closing of the Strait of Hormuz.

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Speaker 14: But all in all, I think there are some successes.

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Speaker 14: The key question though, is what happens next. Will there

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Speaker 14: be regime change or will this regime continue. It looks

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Speaker 14: like a new iatola will be announced in the forthcoming days,

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Speaker 14: and so really a mixed bag. But in terms of

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Speaker 14: protecting protesters, some good that's come out of.

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Speaker 1: This, Doctor Glendur's they share a history and government, and

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Speaker 1: a professor of international studies Cedarville University was sterling on

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Speaker 1: the big one as we have a history, obviously putting

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Speaker 1: aside very recent issue with the Venezuela, how has the

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Speaker 1: record of the United States been when it comes to

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Speaker 1: taking out these dictators and these hostile threats that we have,

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Speaker 1: and then you know that idea I guess of regime change.

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Speaker 1: And the President has been a very outspoken the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days about saying that he wants a hand

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Speaker 1: in the decision, if not the decision about who runs

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Speaker 1: that country. How likely is that? Is our track record

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Speaker 1: good or bad in these type of endeavors, however many

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Speaker 1: they have been.

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Speaker 14: If we zoom out and go back toward the end

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Speaker 14: of World War Two, it's been over eighty years now

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Speaker 14: since the Third World War, and if we think about

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Speaker 14: the proliferation of nuclear weapons, there are only nine countries

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Speaker 14: that possessed them, and so on that level, the United

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Speaker 14: States has been extraordinarily successful in terms of leading a

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Speaker 14: more peaceful world, limiting especially nuclear proliferation and the possibility

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Speaker 14: of nuclear exchange. But I think your question is excellent

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Speaker 14: on many levels, because regime change authoritarianism is a challenging topic.

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Speaker 14: And even though more democratic countries have emerged since World

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Speaker 14: War II, there are some brutal ones that still remain

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Speaker 14: and some that sometimes flip back, like Iran, and so

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Speaker 14: there are really a handful more of really autocratic regimes

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Speaker 14: from Cuba to Venezuela to Iran that have caused a

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Speaker 14: lot of problems on the world stage and have caused

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Speaker 14: a lot of headlines, and having them change is very,

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Speaker 14: very difficult, and so in that regard, it's very much

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Speaker 14: a challenge because unless you want to do something like

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Speaker 14: Afghanistan or Iraq, that can lead into something much longer

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Speaker 14: and potentially a quagmire and cost a lot of American

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Speaker 14: lives and Allied lives. That's the tricky part of the decision.

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Speaker 14: It's very very difficult to remove these types of dictators

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Speaker 14: people rising up in their countries. That's difficult as well

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Speaker 14: because the regime holds all the guns and as long

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Speaker 14: confiscated the guns from anyone that would want democratic and

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Speaker 14: constitutional change. And so it's a mixed bag. But on

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Speaker 14: the macro level a lot of success stories. On the

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Speaker 14: micro level, there are, unfortunately, these Brudeau regimes that stay

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Speaker 14: in power.

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Speaker 1: Share history and government. At Cedarville University and professor of

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Speaker 1: International Studies, doctor Glenn gore As who we're talking to,

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Speaker 1: was sterling on the big one.

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Speaker 5: In a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: The idea of removing a bad leader, a danger, a

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Speaker 1: threat is one thing, but this is not a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: You know, things happen, Domino's fall, the region has been

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Speaker 1: volatile for as long as modern history, or even before

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Speaker 1: modern history was written. As we look back, religion is

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Speaker 1: always a part of this, and I've heard many a

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Speaker 1: call to my show and others and conversations and people

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Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the Thirteen Virgins or whatever else,

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Speaker 1: and people's difference and ideas of what is moral and

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Speaker 1: not moral in societal differences and expectations. How challenging is

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Speaker 1: it when there are some regardless of faith it following

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Speaker 1: Islam or Christianity, where people look at this as a

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Speaker 1: war of faith in God and not about peace and

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Speaker 1: letting people live their lives as they'd like to.

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Speaker 14: Certainly there's a religious aspect. This is a regime that's

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Speaker 14: formerly twelve Shia Islam. The Shea Pod is the minority

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Speaker 14: of the two larger branches of Islam, and the twelve

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 14: is important because it in and of itself, by its definition,

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Speaker 14: is seeking an apocalyptic confrontation, and it's one of the

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Speaker 14: reasons why by several Iranian presidents, notably mak Mudakmadinajad that

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Speaker 14: served as the president from two thousand and five to

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Speaker 14: twenty thirteen, really try to develop a nuclear weapon to

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Speaker 14: promote this apocalyptic since I say he was the president.

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Speaker 14: There are elections in Iran, although they are very very

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Speaker 14: tightly controlled and very few people can actually legitimately run,

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01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 14: so it's still authoritarian even though they have elections. But

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Speaker 14: to turn the corner on your question in terms of peace,

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Speaker 14: in terms of people that just want a normal country,

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Speaker 14: Iran is a very very young population. It's ninety two million,

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Speaker 14: but its baby boom occurred in the nineteen nineties, making

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Speaker 14: the median age of the late twenties early thirties. And

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 14: this is a population that's online. They're digital natives for

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Speaker 14: the most part. The many are on Instagram. They see

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Speaker 14: what normal countries look like around the world, and really

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Speaker 14: they want a normal country for themselves. They want economic opportunity,

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Speaker 14: they want good employment. All of these things are major

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Speaker 14: pushes behind the protests in Iran. And I think that's

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Speaker 14: the heart of your question, because so many people just

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Speaker 14: want change, and yet a brutal regime that holds the

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Speaker 14: guns is still in power, and they have made life

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Speaker 14: exceptionally difficult for so many.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Glendur, He's pressor in studies cedar of the university,

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01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: was sterling being we're talking about a run and our

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Speaker 1: engagement with him.

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Speaker 5: And I just a body of mine.

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Speaker 1: Gott He's like, it's not a war, Okay, We'll go

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Speaker 1: back to the seventies and when I was a little

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Speaker 1: kid watching the ABC news after school, and then Nightline

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01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: came after that, and day after day adding another day

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Speaker 1: to those hostages being kept there. We never really ended hostilities.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of been a cold war with you know,

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Speaker 1: a sporadic bubbling up like the primordial ooze of ugliness,

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Speaker 1: effectively in the idea of and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm using the term correctly asymmetrical war in where we

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Speaker 1: are now. This doesn't stay isolated to Iran. We've seen

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Speaker 1: it expand there. We know about Hezballah and all the

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Speaker 1: other terrorists of sponsoring that has taken place by the

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Speaker 1: Iranian government. How concerned should we be about our infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: our issues of cyber attack and so forth, to our

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Speaker 1: interest here, our bank account or anything else, because that's

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Speaker 1: something that they have state sponsored, just like Russia, just

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Speaker 1: like China, and even for that matter, just people out

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Speaker 1: there looking to rip individuals off.

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Speaker 14: It's certainly a danger. I wouldn't classify it as the

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Speaker 14: highest highest level of danger by any means, because I

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Speaker 14: would have expected sleep as cells from Hesbala and other

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Speaker 14: terrorist organizations to be activated post Octember October the seventh

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Speaker 14: of twenty twenty three. That would have been my time

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Speaker 14: had I thought it been very very low. In terms

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Speaker 14: of cyber operations, there are large scale attacks that come

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Speaker 14: from inside Iran. Usually Russia is better developed on this level.

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Speaker 14: There are a range of different organizations that are quasi

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Speaker 14: state actors that are linked with the government but technically

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Speaker 14: disconnected with it. That tend to be more dangerous from Russia,

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Speaker 14: but it shouldn't be overlooked in terms of Iranian capabilities

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Speaker 14: and what can happen. But I think it goes back

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Speaker 14: to generic ways of how do we keep ourselves safe online,

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Speaker 14: dual factor authentication, password protection, these types of areas, and

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Speaker 14: really relying on cybersecurity experts within each organization. The NSA

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Speaker 14: as well. Typically I think will be pretty good there.

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Speaker 14: But it's also to say this is a time where

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Speaker 14: vigilance is needed. The larger scale existential danger is a

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Speaker 14: cyber version of nine and I don't know that the

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Speaker 14: Uranians have that kind.

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Speaker 9: Of capability, but we do have to.

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Speaker 14: Walk humbly and be careful in that regard as well.

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Speaker 1: And doctor Glenndur is a Chair of History and Government

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Speaker 1: Professor of International Studies Cedarville University, just up the road

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Speaker 1: Sterling seven hundred WLW. Something that's been talked about and

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Speaker 1: we alluded to earlier. President Trump has talked about wanting

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Speaker 1: to install someone in a position of power and authority

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Speaker 1: to lead run or at least give them a nod

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Speaker 1: of okay, which gets it's kind of highly suspect if

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Speaker 1: somebody said they wanted to pick our leader and so forth.

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Speaker 1: That becomes troubling, especially for young people who may be

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Speaker 1: earning for yearning for freedom. But the other wrinkle to this,

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Speaker 1: and you alluded to it, doctor Dorr, is that the

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Speaker 1: regime has the power. The regime controls the internet, the

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Speaker 1: regime controls the economy, the regime controls the guns of

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Speaker 1: the weapons, and to unlike here, the right to bear

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Speaker 1: arms and defend ourselves from outside or inside threats, depending

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Speaker 1: they don't have that there. How challenging is it to

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Speaker 1: back to them to step up to be able to

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Speaker 1: take over if they can, knowing how large their army is,

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Speaker 1: how well equipped that they are on the ground. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: in moving ahead, it's a lot to ask for them

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Speaker 1: with no way to really defend themselves or make a change.

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Speaker 1: Do we have to bomb them into the Middle Ages

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Speaker 1: or before the Dark Ages?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you've hit the nail on the head,

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Speaker 14: because the regime is very, very tightly controlled, even though

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Speaker 14: there are elections and every now and.

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Speaker 13: Then there are surprises.

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Speaker 14: The ninety seven and two thousand and five presidential elections

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Speaker 14: both yielded unexpected presidents on the world stage, but it's

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Speaker 14: very tightly controlled. Legitimate opposition figures have long been barred

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Speaker 14: from running. In two thousand and nine, there was a candidate,

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Speaker 14: mir Hussein Musavi that probably won the election, but it

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Speaker 14: was stolen from him and given to Ahmadinajad, and so

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Speaker 14: he could be a leader. The Paalavi Shah family has

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Speaker 14: been discussed of bringing them back and having an option

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Speaker 14: in that regard, but it probably will be a multi

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Speaker 14: stage event. I think that the bombing will continue, especially

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Speaker 14: on military and nuclear sites. I think they'll be a

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Speaker 14: drive to really bring the regime to the table and

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Speaker 14: say okay, you can serve out as a caretaker government,

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Speaker 14: but we expect some form of announced election and some

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Speaker 14: form of supervised change that will occur, probably along the

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Speaker 14: lines of what will hopefully happen in Venezuela in the

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Speaker 14: forthcoming months and years. But it's all a big ask

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Speaker 14: because it's getting people that have never really run for

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Speaker 14: office or had experience in a governing office to then

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Speaker 14: take over and lead a country of ninety two million people.

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Speaker 14: It's a big r but that's essentially what's needed in

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Speaker 14: order to bring a RAN into the family of friendly

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Speaker 14: and the countries that enjoy constitutional rights.

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Speaker 1: International studies expert as well as history and government chair

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Speaker 1: at the Cedar University of Doctor Glendor's was Sterling on

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01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. We built a coalition to go after

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Speaker 1: those responsible for at least is what they told us

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Speaker 1: were responsible for nine to eleven. Effectively, we saw how

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Speaker 1: that went. Building a coalition in a group of allies

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Speaker 1: was what started and became NATO, and you know, going

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Speaker 1: after the Nazis and you know global war effectively World

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Speaker 1: War two. It takes time, moving armaments, moving you know,

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Speaker 1: the equipment necessary, and the individuals who put that uniform

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Speaker 1: on and put their lives in harm's way and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: don't come home a whole or sometimes not at all.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we ask a lot of our allies, not you,

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Speaker 1: our men and women and our families here Stateside, to

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Speaker 1: protect our interest, our safety and security around planet Earth.

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Speaker 1: So it's not fault here, hopefully. My question in relation

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Speaker 1: to that is, just in the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: President Trump has really gone hard, talking bad publicly about

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Speaker 1: the UK and England's involvement. Are being slow to get engaged.

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Speaker 1: How much of an ask how difficult of an ask.

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Speaker 1: On short turnaround with the war, that was fairly obvious

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Speaker 1: we were going to be engaged in some fashion as

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Speaker 1: the navy build up was moving into the Gulf region

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Speaker 1: and some of the aircraft moving into that area wasn't

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Speaker 1: the biggest surprise. But to ask allies to step up

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Speaker 1: and have them want questions answered or to get their

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Speaker 1: ducks in a row, it's a tough spot to put

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Speaker 1: them in.

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Speaker 5: Is it appropriate?

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Speaker 1: And how challenging is it to have America's leader do

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Speaker 1: that to one of our closest historical allies.

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Speaker 14: I think in pop it's the relationship with Kiss, the

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Speaker 14: Prime Minister of the United Kingdom that has led to this.

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Speaker 14: Because UK has long been a very staunch ally. We

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Speaker 14: think of Churchill and FDR in World War II, or

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Speaker 14: Thatcher and Reagan in the Cold War, or Bush and

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Speaker 14: Blair with the Global War on Terror. The United Kingdom

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Speaker 14: was right there. It's been a longstanding NATO ally, an

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Speaker 14: organization founded in nineteen forty nine where the UK has

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Speaker 14: usually been the second of the third in line behind

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Speaker 14: the United States to really try and protect global freedom.

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Speaker 14: But in this moment, Kirstarmer has been a ditherer on

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01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 14: the world stage. He really hasn't acted in ways that

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01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 14: are appropriate. He knows that the Uranian regime is brutalizing

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01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 14: protesters within the country, and he hasn't acted really to

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01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 14: protect British interests in the ways that are appropriate. And

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Speaker 14: Iran actually with its Russia, he drones after the British

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Speaker 14: base in Cyprus in the Mediterranean in the very opening days.

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Speaker 14: And so I think in many ways it's not so

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01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 14: much about the UK because Trump has had good relations

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01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 14: with Prime Minister Boris Johnson for example, Thereesa May before her.

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Speaker 14: It's been a bit of a merry go round in

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Speaker 14: British politics with so many leaders in almost every single year.

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01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 14: But with Starma on the left and in the Labor Party,

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01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 14: he really hasn't been a leader globally in this area

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01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 14: where the United Kingdom has been historically. And I think

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01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 14: he's President Trump is really just trying to cajole Labor

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01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 14: into doing more for Kis Starmer to be more of

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 14: a Tony Blair rather than someone that just sits on

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Speaker 14: the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed this conversation and you've taken time on

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: your Sunday, especially after losing an hour to give us

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01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: some insight perspective overall as to what's going on.

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Speaker 5: So I hope you'll come back hopeless. Hasn't been too

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Speaker 5: painful for you.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Glen Door is the sheriff, History and Government Professor

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Speaker 1: of International Studies Cedarville University and the Beaver Creek City

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Speaker 1: Council member. That's pretty tremendous. Thank you so much. I

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Speaker 1: hope you have a great afternoon and we'll try to.

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Speaker 5: This again hopefully you too.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having me taking.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, take care of yourself your two thirty reports

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of those recently one new this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and Pixar's back with something new too. That they've created

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Speaker 1: something and it looks beautiful to the trailers. I've seen

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Speaker 1: a guy who sees these things. He picks one every week,

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Speaker 1: if you find him a silver gecko on the substack.

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Speaker 1: He was also my partner of the Chubby and Stick podcast.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, Welcome back to seven hundred w welw wis Sterling.

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Speaker 5: What is going on?

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Speaker 18: Oh, not much, just just getting ready to talk to

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Speaker 18: you about the new Pixar movie.

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Speaker 1: I guess right, well, I think so. Yeah, Hopper Hopper,

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Speaker 1: Hopper Hopper has.

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Speaker 18: Nothing to do with the sheriff from Stranger Things. Don't worry.

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Speaker 5: Different things, you.

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Speaker 18: Know, maybe that's what you want and the kids the movie,

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Speaker 18: you could.

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Speaker 5: It might be a little different, little strange for sure.

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Speaker 5: What is this about?

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Speaker 1: Is this about like all creatures in Woodland, creatures, small

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Speaker 1: furry things or what exactly is this?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Okay, so the basic gist of it is, there's this

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Speaker 18: girl who loves this Nate. She lives in a town

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Speaker 18: that's called Beaverton, and she there's her favorite Glenn that

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Speaker 18: she was at with her like her grandmother, and grandmother's

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Speaker 18: passed away. You can't have a Disney movie without a

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Speaker 18: dead parent. Are relative in there somewhere. But so she

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Speaker 18: she wants to save it from being bulldozed for a freeway,

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Speaker 18: and so she's been going toe to toe with the

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Speaker 18: mayor and trying to stop it and everything, and she

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Speaker 18: stumbles upon this technology. I'm not gonna explain how or why,

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Speaker 18: this technology that allows her to basically project her brain,

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Speaker 18: her mind into a robotic beaver that is very realistic,

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Speaker 18: and then she can go talk to the animals and everything,

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Speaker 18: and as the beaver as this as this woodling creature,

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Speaker 18: she starts to try and get them to fight back

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Speaker 18: and everything. And that's the basic gist of it. It's

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Speaker 18: it goes in that line of Pixar high concept movies.

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Speaker 18: This has been a struggle for me for years on

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Speaker 18: the radio. You know, some things are easy to explain

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Speaker 18: from Pixar. A you know, a rat that wants to

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Speaker 18: be a chef, okay, that's gratitude. You know, toys that

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Speaker 18: come to life. But then try to try to blurb

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Speaker 18: in and out, inside out as quickly as you can

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Speaker 18: and it gets a little bit tough. But that's what's

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Speaker 18: so great about Pixar movies is they have these high concept,

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Speaker 18: crazy stuff going on. And Pixar has had some stumbles recently.

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Speaker 18: You know, light Year didn't do well and l e

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Speaker 18: O kind of flopped last year. But this is kind

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Speaker 18: of going back to the original idea well, even though

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Speaker 18: it does kind of have that steal that sort of

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Speaker 18: plot point from Avatar. But I mean, it's a cute movie,

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Speaker 18: it really is, and it does seem at times derivative

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Speaker 18: from some other Pixar movies, but that's because they've there

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Speaker 18: been one like thirty or forty of them by now there's.

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Speaker 5: A lot they have made a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now what do you know about the And I know

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Speaker 1: this is geek stuff that it's not about content of

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Speaker 1: the film, which looks visually stunning, but over that window

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Speaker 1: of time Kevin Carr, by the way, so over Gecko

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Speaker 1: on Substack with Sterling on the big when talking about

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Speaker 1: this new Pixar movie called Hoppers, the visual is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And when they first started doing stuff, we were all

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Speaker 1: blown away then, but they've come a long way. How

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Speaker 1: much different drastically and visually do you think it isn't

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Speaker 1: in what makes it's so much more special.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just technology.

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Speaker 18: I guess, well, yeah, it's it's technology, and you build

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Speaker 18: upon other technology and you get better processing and better

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Speaker 18: computers and different techniques and better emulation processes. I mean,

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Speaker 18: I've had interesting I had had real interesting conversations and

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Speaker 18: interviews with some of the people who work in Pixar.

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Speaker 18: I had the woman I think she I don't think

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Speaker 18: she directs this one, but she's heavily involved in this one.

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Speaker 18: And I talked to her way back when she was

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Speaker 18: working on It's something early. It may have it may

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Speaker 18: have been Mowana, which is a Disney one rather than Pixar,

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Speaker 18: but her entire job was to figure out how to

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Speaker 18: represent water, and we had a whole conversation about that.

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Speaker 18: But they have people, they have dozens of people just

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Speaker 18: figuring out how to make fur look like fur, and

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Speaker 18: how to make the sunlight come through it, and how

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Speaker 18: to make wind move in a natural, chaotic sense. And

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Speaker 18: it's the science and math and artistry is beyond me.

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Speaker 18: But they've got scores of people doing that, and that's

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Speaker 18: that's where the nuance comes in. They've gotten to the

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Speaker 18: point where they can fully animate everything. It's just it's

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Speaker 18: getting more and more realistic without crossing into that on

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Speaker 18: Canny Valley, because again, you still have humans. You don't

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Speaker 18: want them to look too human because they look weird,

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Speaker 18: and so they still got to look cartoonish. So there's

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Speaker 18: a lot of stuff that goes on behind the screens

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Speaker 18: in these kind of movies.

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Speaker 1: How much faster with technology do you think, because I

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Speaker 1: mean you think back to Disney and all the stuff

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Speaker 1: from the early days, some of which now is no

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Speaker 1: longer going to be like it's you know, bit by

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Speaker 1: bit the trademark or service marks are going away. That's

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Speaker 1: why we've seen some bastardization of some stuff that's been made.

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Speaker 18: But like the public domain stuff like Screamboat Willie and

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Speaker 18: stuff like.

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Speaker 5: That windy food movie, Boding Honey and the Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I love that. But they used to draw this.

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Speaker 1: There were animators like rooms and rooms of them with

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Speaker 1: like pencils and ink and stuff. Now it's obviously, uh

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Speaker 1: technology and people behind it with computers.

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Speaker 19: Is it?

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Speaker 1: How much do we know AI in the future of that?

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Speaker 1: I hate to say, and I know everything much like

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Speaker 1: AI AI, everything is AI. But that has to play

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Speaker 1: into this somehow down the line, if not currently.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well yes and no. I mean it's real dicey

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Speaker 18: for these these companies because you know, Pixar does not

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Speaker 18: want to dip into the AI pool because it would

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Speaker 18: be seen as a slap in the face to all

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Speaker 18: the people that work there. I think a lot of

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Speaker 18: and you've got to really kind of parse AI versus

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Speaker 18: what it is, what it's used for, what people use

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Speaker 18: it for, and how they use it, and whether some

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Speaker 18: people want to use it or never use it. I mean,

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Speaker 18: there's a there's a lot of discussion. I know you've

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Speaker 18: had AI people on before, but I don't think there's

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Speaker 18: going to be anything AI in a Pixar movie anytime soon,

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Speaker 18: because Pixar has built itself on the human element of animation.

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Speaker 18: And even then AI is used as a g with

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Speaker 18: Kitchie type thing of you going on Facebook and saying,

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Speaker 18: do an AI portrait of me? Or you want to

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Speaker 18: do something. I want to see a dog riding an eagle,

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Speaker 18: you know, something like that. But that's that's disposable, that's

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Speaker 18: that's there's no market for something like that. You know,

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Speaker 18: like there's an Ohio lottery ad running around. It's clearly AI,

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Speaker 18: and okay, it's the lottery. But like movies like The

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Speaker 18: Bad Guys too. Do you remember that movie that came

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Speaker 18: out a couple months ago. Yeah, that one and other

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Speaker 18: ones that they're starting to do. They're starting to put

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Speaker 18: notices on those that say this is not to be

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Speaker 18: absorbed by AI and put into their database. We prohibit

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Speaker 18: that because there is a huge fight coming, especially in

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Speaker 18: animation and in Hollywood where AI. Because the way AI

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Speaker 18: works is it digests all this other stuff and then

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Speaker 18: kicks it back out and makes it and uses the style,

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Speaker 18: but there's no royalty payment or no or real credit

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Speaker 18: given to what it.

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Speaker 7: Was trained on.

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Speaker 1: I see, and I've talked to experts on that. And

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Speaker 1: I don't mean interrupt, but this is the thing that

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Speaker 1: I can't process. If you and I went into a

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Speaker 1: room and took other people's work and regurgitated it and

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Speaker 1: put our thumbprint on it.

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Speaker 5: We could be sued.

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Speaker 1: But the AI does that, and people go, well, you

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Speaker 1: know it's all out there.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well there's a difference, and that's why I think

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Speaker 18: why they're putting those stamps on it. And we talked

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Speaker 18: about this a little bit with that that that roof

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Speaker 18: type rooftop fight with Brad Pitton Tom Cruise. Yeah, and

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Speaker 18: there's like one with Fanos fighting Darth Vader. Part of those.

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Speaker 18: You're getting those and they look cool, but there's no

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Speaker 18: story behind them, so you cannot make a movie based

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Speaker 18: on that. And they're they're alreadys trying to put safeguards

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Speaker 18: in and there are people trying to use AI to

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Speaker 18: regurgitate scripts, and I imagine you could probably get an

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Speaker 18: AI to regurgitate a you know, like something really cheesy,

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Speaker 18: like a like a Hallmark holity. There's something that follows

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Speaker 18: that exact formula, but you're not going to get a

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Speaker 18: Pixar movie out of it because there's a lot of

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Speaker 18: creativity and that sort of flash of genius that AI

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Speaker 18: isn't even trained to do. They're just, as I understand it, AI,

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Speaker 18: it's a garbage in garbage at type thing. They can

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Speaker 18: only do what they've been taught.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that really is the case in Pixar certainly

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Speaker 1: is not garbage, that's for sure. Even though you know

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Speaker 1: a couple of those, like you said, weren't exactly as

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Speaker 1: popular as they had been.

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Speaker 5: So do you like this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got kids, this is one they're

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Speaker 1: probably it's hard to find a movie that kids don't like,

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Speaker 1: like this.

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Speaker 18: Trying to figure routine right now. So yeah, they're no

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Speaker 18: longer a little one.

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Speaker 5: They're not yours.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, when you see this, do you know,

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Speaker 1: because like when they were little, did you to ever

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Speaker 1: take them to an animated feature that they were like,

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Speaker 1: well this sucks, dad, let's go.

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Speaker 18: Well, they've been the ones they liked more than others.

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Speaker 18: Pixars the the key with Pixars. Pixar always does stuff

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Speaker 18: that's cute and vibrant and entertaining that kids are going

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Speaker 18: to like, even the High even something like which has

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Speaker 18: a lot of adult themes and ideas in it. And

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Speaker 18: why I say adult themes, I don't mean like X

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Speaker 18: ray and I'm just talking about like grown yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: but then it still has the dog that talks you

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Speaker 18: know what I mean, and which was named Kevin. The

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Speaker 18: bird was named Kevin.

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Speaker 5: That's right up.

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Speaker 18: So that's what Pixar is really good at. That's kind

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Speaker 18: of where they're masks ll at, where they can do

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Speaker 18: the cute stuff that gets the little kids engaged, but

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Speaker 18: it also has the story elements that the adults like

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Speaker 18: and so in terms of Hoppers, it's cute forest creatures

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Speaker 18: doing funny things. So yeah, kids are gonna like it, right,

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Speaker 18: but adults can appreciate it because it goes deeper into

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Speaker 18: that and it's a deeper cut, and that's what makes

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Speaker 18: a really good movie. Uh, even though at times this

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Speaker 18: does at certain times it kind of feels like it's

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Speaker 18: replaying some of Pixar's greatest hits. But like I said,

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Speaker 18: they've done a couple dozen movies, so you're gonna you're

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Speaker 18: gonna try the name ground again.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think that's the case.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Carr by the way, sober Gecko and

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Speaker 1: substances where you can fine, he'll pop int your mailbox.

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Speaker 1: He's had this long series. I think it's The Rabbit,

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Speaker 1: right or something like that. That's then the.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's a that's a novella that I had been

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Speaker 18: eching out over the week.

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Speaker 5: Which is great.

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Speaker 1: You just sort of here's a little bit, here's a

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Speaker 1: little bit, here's a little bit more. That's good marketing.

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Speaker 1: I like the way that works. Yeah, all right, so

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Speaker 1: Hopper sounds like it might be something now, and I

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Speaker 1: know I don't some of this you've seen maybe some

1966
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Speaker 1: you have it. Uh there have been a multitude of

1967
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: hockey movies lately, and I know there's another new one

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Speaker 1: that just came out this weekend or at least maybe

1969
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Speaker 1: streaming called Young Blood. And there's also another Frankenstein or

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Speaker 1: Bride the Bride, which is another the Bride of.

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Speaker 5: Frankenstein Bride an exclamation mark it does. It's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: Uh So it's just odd that we have this window

1973
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Speaker 1: of time where I can't recall when there were, oh,

1974
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of hockey movies. Here, here's a and

1975
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Speaker 1: I know there've been a variety of Frankenstein type films,

1976
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: but you know the Guermo del Toro thing, which I

1977
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Speaker 1: thought was cool.

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Speaker 5: Now this is the Bride.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like a, here's some hockey movies,

1980
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Speaker 1: here's some monster movies.

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Speaker 5: Very od.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 18: I don't know if Young bloods and theaters. But of

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Speaker 18: course I'm assuming that's a remake of Blood from the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, jack that Yeah, he's like he's a dagging kid.

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Speaker 5: He's an Ohio guy rob Law movie. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 1: So So there you go, Rush Jackson and you were

1989
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Speaker 1: having a mind meld.

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Speaker 18: Kevin, there we are. Yeah, you know, I got that

1991
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Speaker 18: Bulkan strategy going on.

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Speaker 5: But you know, The Bride.

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Speaker 18: What's interesting. I've not seen The Bride. I'm very curious

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Speaker 18: about it. I understand it's very chaotic and it's not

1995
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Speaker 18: for everyone. I think it's I think it's great that

1996
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Speaker 18: like Maggie Jillenhall, who the actress Maggie Jillenhal directs that. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: and I like the fact that she's swinging for the

1998
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Speaker 18: fences and it's so completely wholly different than her last movie,

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01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 18: which was this sort of this relationship drama with Olivia Coleman.

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Speaker 18: I can't remember the name of it. Yeah, Oh, I

2001
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 18: love Lybia Coleman. But this one's just kind of off

2002
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 18: the charts in terms of craziness. But also I've heard

2003
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 18: it's kind of like so crazy it doesn't quite give

2004
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 18: you necessarily what you want. But you know, it's not

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Speaker 18: a straight up redew of the Bride of Frankenstein, and

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01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 18: it's certainly not a redew of the Bride, which would

2007
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Speaker 18: start staying in Jennifer Beals back in what nineteen eighty six? Yeah,

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Speaker 18: but I mean I love the if Frankenstein is such

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01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 18: as it's such a it can be done in so

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Speaker 18: many different ways. It is. It's that kind of movie

2011
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Speaker 18: that you can keep redoing it, and you can do

2012
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Speaker 18: the original kind of you know, one to one comparison

2013
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Speaker 18: of what was written in eighteen eighteen, or you can

2014
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 18: do a modern remake of it, and you can do

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01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 18: and you can really you can delve deep into some

2016
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Speaker 18: of the concepts in there. I mean, Mary Shelley was

2017
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 18: it's a genius piece of work. If you've not read it,

2018
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 18: it's very flowery a little bit. Yeah, I mean so,

2019
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Speaker 18: I mean it's almost poetic in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 18: But it's a fantastic book too, which rarely is given

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Speaker 18: the actual treatment of the book. Think everyone kind of

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Speaker 18: diverts to the Boris Karloff, the James Wayal film from

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Speaker 18: nineteen thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what's interesting. And I just just

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Speaker 1: searched on this, and you would know better than I would.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if this is legit or not.

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Speaker 1: I just want I asked how many Frankenstein movies have

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Speaker 1: been made? Sixty five, it says, and they say about

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Speaker 1: forty of them. Depending on how you look at it

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Speaker 1: would qualify, you know, if you're like being real, I

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Speaker 1: guess serious about limiting access.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean like the actual Frankenstein's story. But I mean,

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Speaker 18: you know there's a been. I mean does that include

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Speaker 18: young Frankenstein and then does that include like Ghost of

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Speaker 18: Frankenstein and Son of Frankenstein.

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Speaker 1: See, I've got questions. Now you're answers and you're giving

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Speaker 1: me more questions.

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Speaker 5: That's not helpful. That's not how we're supposed to work.

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Speaker 18: But Frankenstein shows up just in just in the universal

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Speaker 18: running he shows up like six times. I mean, what Frankenstein,

2041
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Speaker 18: Bride of Frankenstein, Son of Frankenstein, Ghost of Frankenstein. Then

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Speaker 18: he shows up and franklyntein meets the wolfsman Frankenstein, House

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Speaker 18: of Dracula, House of Frankenstein. And do you count the

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Speaker 18: monsters as a as a TV because that's.

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Speaker 5: A Franken Frankenstein too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: See, I don't even know. So what qualifies just general?

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Speaker 1: Is it like creatures that have been pieced back together

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Speaker 1: counts as a Frankenstein even if you don't give it

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Speaker 1: a Frankenstein name.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the rules are.

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Speaker 18: I would say if you just say a straight up

2053
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 18: Frankenstein movie it involves the creator and a monster.

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Speaker 7: Of some sort.

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Speaker 18: Okay, but I mean, you you there's a lot of

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Speaker 18: stuff that that is that that is its own frank

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Speaker 18: It's like there's so many versions of Pigmalion. You got

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Speaker 18: you know, my fair Lady, you got pretty Woman, and

2059
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Speaker 18: and so you know, I'm trying to think of a

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01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 18: good example of a you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 18: stories that are Frankenstein's stories where somebody makes that a

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Speaker 18: product of their own creation comes back and bites him

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Speaker 18: in the tail.

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Speaker 5: Is it wrong for me to say that I think

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Speaker 5: that the bride? Uh? Is she somehow kind of dothy

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Speaker 5: hot to me?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: You know, I get that. I mean Jesse Buckley's hot

2069
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Speaker 18: because she's probably gonna win the Oscar for Hamnet, which is.

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Speaker 5: A very great Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, because we're about out

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Speaker 1: of time, that's that's basically a story of Shakespeare and

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Speaker 1: how he put together one of his stories.

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Speaker 18: Well, yeah, because it's it's based on the death of

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Speaker 18: his son, right, yeah, and that's that's sort of the

2076
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Speaker 18: tragedy is what spawned Hamlet, you know what some people

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Speaker 18: would consider his greatest play.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we've gone so deep into the woods and

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Speaker 1: out in a multitude of ways, and it makes me

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Speaker 1: want to watch the movies. But I have audio to create,

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Speaker 1: Silver Gecko on Substack. I'm sorry, I'm fine, all right,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Carr. Thank you. We'll talk to you, lady. I

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Speaker 1: I always love the conversation just because I am an idiot.

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Speaker 1: Dumb things as an adult listen regularly, I say dumb

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Speaker 1: things from time to time. You talk for three four

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Speaker 1: hours at a time and see if you can remember

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, let alone keep it straight all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's difficult on my best of days. A kid, I

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Speaker 1: mean next level right. And I mentioned this because most

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Speaker 1: of us, if you've had kids, you know they do

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Speaker 1: dumb things. And you were probably a child at once yourself,

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01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: and usually it's how it works, and you may have

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01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: done something odd, ridiculous or strange or otherwise in general.

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Speaker 1: And the headline the other day, if somebody send me this,

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Speaker 1: so thank you, I think it was a Calvin from

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Speaker 1: the West Sides. All it said, not the West End

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Speaker 1: where FC Cincinnati plays later the whole nother thing. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a seven o'clock tip kick a three year

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Speaker 1: old kid. Three year old boy stuck inside claw machine

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Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks after a toddler was rescued

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Speaker 1: from the same game. So one of the claw machines

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Speaker 1: that you just pump money in like crazy. You either

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Speaker 1: get tickets or hope to get a stuffed animal or

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Speaker 1: some type of toy or whatever junk out of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean that in the nicest the way. It's always

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Speaker 1: high end chotski, you know that, And this happens a lot.

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine rescue a first responder like you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: probably get these calls on occasion. I know the er

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01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: gets these calls on occasion where kids get stuck inside

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Speaker 1: something or have hurt themselves in a strange or unusual way.

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Speaker 1: And it even happens to us adults. When I worked

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Speaker 1: at the put putt golfing games, I don't remember anyone

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01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: getting stuck inside the claw machine, but it was much smaller.

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Speaker 1: There were small toys, small stuffed animals, don't you know.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have imagined you'd have to be an infant

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Speaker 1: to get up in there. You see people try to

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Speaker 1: reach their arms up. I'm wondering if you've had a

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Speaker 1: kid stuck on a claw machine or what other type

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Speaker 1: of thing your kid has been stuck in, or maybe

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Speaker 1: you got stuck in, or how you hurt yourself. That

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01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: could be traumatizing, to say the least. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

2158
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: seven thousand, eight hundred the big one. School teachers see

2159
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 1: it all the time. There was a kid, I think

2160
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 1: it was in my elementary school times, or maybe middle

2161
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: school whenever, if it was you first started to get lockers.

2162
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 5: And I remember there was a kid.

2163
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he got himself stuck in the

2164
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 1: locker or if he was stuffed into a locker, which

2165
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: may bring back like horrible bad feelings memories and flashbacks

2166
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: for some I may have been picked on and made

2167
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 1: fun of as a kid, but never stuffed into a locker.

2168
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: But that kid got stuck. I don't think they called

2169
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 1: for medics, but it's one of those things that happened.

2170
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 1: Wondering what you've dealt with or otherwise and odd injury situations.

2171
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 1: And I was just talking to Sean McMahon about this

2172
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: off the air. As a kid in elementary school, I

2173
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: remember with some bodies of mine walking home from school.

2174
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 1: It's probably six or seven blocks, a few blocks away

2175
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: from me J Brown Elementary School. I'm walking backwards, sort

2176
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 1: of half jogging, I guess, walking quickly, talking to these girls.

2177
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Some buddies of mine with me were all doing the

2178
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 1: same thing. And then I go to turn around and

2179
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 1: continue walking forward rather than backwards, and I turned right

2180
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: around into a steel post for like a stop sign

2181
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 1: or a a street sign of some sort, and it

2182
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: was just embarrassing as all get out. And then I

2183
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: ended up having a crease on like part of my

2184
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: forehead and down my face, which lasted a few days,

2185
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: and it came with a story that now I get

2186
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: to share with you here, so I guess it was

2187
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 1: worth it over time, but embarrassing, to say the least.

2188
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: There was no like, hey girl, how cool am I?

2189
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: It was Oh, look, I can't walk and talk at

2190
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: the same time. Look out for the signpost. So I'm

2191
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: just wondering what you've dealt with as a kid or otherwise.

2192
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: I just don't First of all, the claw machine thing

2193
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: is weird to me because I just find it hard

2194
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 1: to process that it would have happened more than once,

2195
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 1: and probably now the machine's a nuisance and a liability.

2196
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how insurance works with that, but that's

2197
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: probably somewhat troubling. And maybe you'd want to keep track

2198
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: of your kid in this situation. But kids get stuck

2199
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 1: in stuff all the time, whether it's like the stuff

2200
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: along like steps going up or down, you know, and

2201
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: then in the rail that'll happen. I remember there was

2202
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 1: a kid just like in Christmas story got his tongue

2203
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 1: stuck when we were kids. So it may have been

2204
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: like a fence like post or something like a chain

2205
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 1: link fence. It was one of those where an older

2206
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 1: kid that you can't do that, and then the kid

2207
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: did it, and then it may or may not have

2208
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: been me. I can either confirm her tonight on know

2209
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,679
Speaker 1: nothing about it, but then you try not to rip

2210
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: your tongue off in that type of situation. Five went three, seven, four, nine, seven,

2211
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: eight hundred, The Big One. Sean McMahon was producing the show.

2212
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 1: Mister McMahon, he was talking off there you had some

2213
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 1: other type of issue where you nearly cost your self

2214
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: serious harm or other type of problem.

2215
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you referring to the the lawnmower incident I

2216
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 3: was telling you about. Well, there was that in a

2217
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 3: door or something, right, Yeah, a couple of stories here.

2218
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 5: I'll try to keep him quick.

2219
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 3: But when I used to do I used to do

2220
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 3: landscaping back during COVID twenty twenty good gick.

2221
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

2222
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 3: It was a little stressful, admittedly, and part of that

2223
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 3: was because I was cutting, you know, grass hills over

2224
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 3: on the west side of town, and it's pretty hilly,

2225
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 3: you know, on the far west side out in the Cleaves,

2226
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 3: Miami Town area. So we were at this one house

2227
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 3: and there was a fence line along the side of

2228
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 3: this house that kind of cut off where the backyard was,

2229
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 3: and there was a hill and that hill sort of

2230
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 3: had like a valley to it, I guess is the

2231
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 3: best way to describe it. So there was you know,

2232
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 3: the left side would go down, the right side went down.

2233
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 3: They met in the valley, and I was going down

2234
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 3: the less steep side, tried to go back up the

2235
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 3: steeper side, and then my mower started sliding down back

2236
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 3: down the hill because it was still kind of muddy,

2237
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,680
Speaker 3: and then it got pinned against the fence line and

2238
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 3: I had to look at my boss and be like, hey,

2239
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 3: my mower stuck.

2240
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 5: I can't gout. He's like, you, I told you not

2241
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,520
Speaker 5: to do that, and I was like, I'm sorry I did.

2242
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 3: I thought I could get out of it, and you know,

2243
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 3: he had to go grab one of my other coworkers

2244
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 3: and you know, we had to like pull it out

2245
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 3: of this hill and he's like, all right, leave that

2246
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 3: area alone, Like what does we wag it?

2247
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, my bed. So it's good.

2248
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: I've done the weed whacking when I was in mower

2249
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: broke in the past, and I'm like, well, I better

2250
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: I can't let this keep growing. I better get the

2251
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 1: weed whacker out. I don't want to be the guy

2252
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 1: with that yard, right, But not getting stuck in that

2253
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: situation that that could be dangerous too, if you're you're

2254
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: sliding around and it's still engaged. Yeah, that's one of

2255
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: those where people panic and then really bad things.

2256
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2257
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 3: And it was one of those big, uh sort of

2258
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 3: industrial mowers too.

2259
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 5: Those are fun. Yeah, they can do bad, bad things fast.

2260
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2261
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't like cutting on hills with those,

2262
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 3: like they're they're really they'd be great for like my

2263
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 3: parents yard, which is really flat and there's small hills,

2264
01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 3: but you could still cut it with that. But you know, yeah,

2265
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 3: when you start to slide down the hill with this

2266
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 3: thousand pound mower and you like you can't, you don't

2267
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 3: have any control over it, it gets a little sketchy and

2268
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 3: uh yeah, it kind of creeped me out. And I

2269
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'm staying away from any hill

2270
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 3: as much as I can. So I saw from that

2271
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 3: point on, I looked at other miler coverers like, hey,

2272
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 3: I can't do this, can get you do it for me?

2273
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 5: Well, you do the backyard where you know your limitations.

2274
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you know your spot you got

2275
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 1: like I stick this, I'm not going to do it.

2276
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all right.

2277
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned something else too, because I was talking

2278
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: about like being dumb and hurting yourself. I don't know,

2279
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if you clawed climbed into a claw

2280
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: machine or not. Probably not. I don't know how many

2281
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 1: people do that. But you mentioned something else that is

2282
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: in relation to just like me turning around and walking

2283
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 1: into a sign, which is pretty swift.

2284
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 3: Oh god, this is one of my best college stories,

2285
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 3: if not my best. I bounce back and forth, but

2286
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 3: this one is one of the two that I have

2287
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 3: that's really good.

2288
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 5: And basically, I was talking to a teacher.

2289
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 3: I was in a room that was very rectangular shaped,

2290
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 3: but there was one corner of the room where the

2291
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 3: door was, and that part of the wall kind of

2292
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 3: jutted out into the room, and so it kind of

2293
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 3: created this corner that stuck out. So I was walking

2294
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 3: backwards talking to my teacher and I was like okay, bye,

2295
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 3: turned around and bam, there was the corner right there,

2296
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 3: I spacked myself right above the left eyebrow and I

2297
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 3: was like, oh that hurt. I turned around and it

2298
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 3: was kind of embarrassed, like, oh, nobody saw that. And

2299
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 3: then I walked out the door and I was like, man,

2300
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 3: that actually hurt. I like, dad, my hand on my

2301
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 3: forehead and I'm like, oh, that's a little bit of blood, okay,

2302
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 3: And then I dabbed it again. I was like, oh,

2303
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 3: there's more blood, and I was like, that's not busted

2304
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 3: wide open.

2305
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2306
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2307
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 5: I went into the bathroom.

2308
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 3: When I was I looked and I was like, oh,

2309
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 3: there's there's a distinctive, like one inch laceration above my

2310
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:13,839
Speaker 3: left eyebrow.

2311
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 5: And then I like looked in the mirror and.

2312
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 7: I was like wait a minute.

2313
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 3: And then I pulled it apart and I was like, oh, no,

2314
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:20,839
Speaker 3: that's like a deep cut.

2315
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 5: And I had to I had to go in. I

2316
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 5: had to like start calling people.

2317
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 3: So for whatever reason, my first instinct was I gotta

2318
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 3: call my boss, who was the video director at UC

2319
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 3: for the UC football team.

2320
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know why that's the first

2321
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 5: place I can go.

2322
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 3: It's like they gotta have medkids there or something call

2323
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 3: to him and he's like, all right, whatever you do,

2324
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 3: don't show me.

2325
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't do well with blood, please do

2326
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 5: not show me.

2327
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, we go in can't

2328
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 3: find a med kid or anything like that, and uh,

2329
01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 3: I call my parents. My parents like, okay, just try

2330
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 3: to figure it out. I went down to like the

2331
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 3: third floor of the athletic building. They gave me a

2332
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 3: butterfly stitch, which didn't last very long. I was having

2333
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 3: problems with my computer and then I was I was

2334
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 3: messing with it, and I forgot to mention this part

2335
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 3: to you. So the butterfly stich kind of held it

2336
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,120
Speaker 3: together for a little bit. And I'm messing with my computer.

2337
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to pull something out of the usbst the

2338
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 3: the us B ports on the side of the computer,

2339
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 3: and I end up smacking the top of the laptop

2340
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 3: back into where I had just cut my head open

2341
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 3: and reopened the wound nice.

2342
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh great, that's a wonderful.

2343
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 3: So I looked at the it people, I was like,

2344
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,839
Speaker 3: I gotta go and go to the hospital.

2345
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 5: Get a call from my boss.

2346
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, the head trainer you see football, who's

2347
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 3: name Aaron. I'm blanking on his last name. I'm sorry, Aaron,

2348
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 3: but my boss is like, hey, go downstairs the training room.

2349
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 3: Aaron will fix you up and you'll be fine. And

2350
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 3: I remember I walked in. There's all these athletes around

2351
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, hey, I've got this paper towel

2352
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 3: like if a wall. I was like, don't mind meet

2353
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, like they're getting their feet taped up and

2354
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 3: they've got like, you know, real injuries, and I'm just

2355
01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 3: like some some dingis who walked into the corner of

2356
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 3: a of a door, of a wall and you know,

2357
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 3: split my head open. I walk into Aaron's office, the

2358
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 3: head trainer, and he's like, how did this happen? I

2359
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 3: explained the whole story, and he's like, all right, fixes

2360
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 3: me up. And he's like, if you do anything done

2361
01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 3: like this ever again, he's like, just call me or

2362
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 3: just come here, like I'll fix you.

2363
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good. A little needle and thread, duct

2364
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 1: tape or maybe super glue. But see, and then you

2365
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: you effectively you saved yourself what like.

2366
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 3: A hospital real trip to the hospital, and potentially some

2367
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 3: insurance money for my parents or you know, whatever the case.

2368
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 5: Because I was like eighteen at the time.

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Speaker 1: See that's adapting an overcoming to the problem.

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Speaker 5: That's good, you know.

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Speaker 1: And see the thing with the kids after you get

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Speaker 1: to be a toddler's age and beyond that, I think

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Speaker 1: college age is probably when you might be trying to

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Speaker 1: climb into things like a claw machine and then maybe

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Speaker 1: avoiding a door or wall.

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Speaker 5: But that's just me.

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Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen some fun stuff when I was

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01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 3: in college. We all, I think most of us have.

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Speaker 3: But that's exactly right. Yeah, it is a lot to

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Speaker 3: see in a lot of good times. Yeah, well, I'm

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Speaker 3: glad you survived and you get like a cool story

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Speaker 3: about your you know scar well or a scar on

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Speaker 3: your head.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: And no trauma like the kid who might like never

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Speaker 1: be able to go to like a chuck e cheese Again.

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Speaker 1: Within the claw machine there is mister McMahon keeping us

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Speaker 1: on time, on track, and of course sharing his classic

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01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 1: story of bonehead moves, which we all have our share.

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Speaker 1: A little earlier, by the way, I talked to Pat Brennan.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Sean, I want to make sure I

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01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: said that all the think too. Yeah, Pat Brennan covers

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01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 1: the Reds for The Inquirer and had him on the

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01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 1: line from Goodyear earlier. We're talking about Hunter Green. Of course,

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01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: now Andrew Rabbit's got the caality he'll he'll be opening

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Speaker 1: Day Starter, which is coming up fast here downtown by

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01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 1: the River, Great American Ballpark, and here on the Big One.

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01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Of course, talked about a whole bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 1: The podcast will be up later, but one of the

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01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 1: other things that came up was about roster spots and

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01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 1: how much room there is and who's making inroads to

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01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: somehow make the team, whether like Low or anybody else.

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01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 1: Here's what Pat Brennan had to say earlier here with

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Speaker 1: me on the Big One.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean it's the you know, I think

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01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 2: the guys that are interesting.

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01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 7: To look at right now, are.

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01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 2: You know I'll do like pictures versus position players. First,

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01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, Graham Ashcraft is a is one of your

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01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 2: leverage relievers, and he's gotten hit pretty hard so far

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01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:17,839
Speaker 2: this spring. And you know, Andrew Abbitt got hit somewhat

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01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 2: hard against the Giants the other day.

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01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 7: But you know it was nice to hear him come.

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01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 2: Out afterwards and say, like, well, I'm done experimenting. I'm

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01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 2: done tinkering.

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01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 12: Now.

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01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to get down to the business of pitching

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01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 2: the way I would in the regular season, at least

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01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 2: to the extent that he's conditioned for that at this point.

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01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 2: So you knew that, you know, Andrew was just working

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01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 2: on things which you expect at this point.

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01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:42,400
Speaker 7: Now we're two and a half weeks away from.

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01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 2: Opening day, he can get down to business. I don't

2425
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 2: get the sense that this was a situation, or this

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01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 2: has been a situation where Graham Ashcraft was tinkering. I

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01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 2: think it's just been a little bit of a a

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01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 2: little bit laborious forms. It's been hard for him so far,

2429
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 2: and I think that was especially evident earlier this past

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02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:06,400
Speaker 2: week against Cuba, which was a team that was completely

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02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:12,680
Speaker 2: and totally overmatched by by the Reds, but Graham had

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02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 2: trouble in that game. Look, I think he'll be fine,

2433
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:22,480
Speaker 2: But you just wonder breaking camp, if you know if

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02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 2: any of if anyone that you figure is sharpeet onto

2435
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 2: this roster could potentially dig themselves a big enough hole

2436
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 2: if they can't get out of it, at least for

2437
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:36,160
Speaker 2: to start the season on time, and then position player wise,

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02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 2: I think there are four spots available. Jose Travino is

2439
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 2: clearly an undisputed lock for one of those, and then

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02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 2: you have JJ Blade, Dane Myers, who I also think

2441
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 2: looks good right now, Nathaniel Lowe, who has an incredible story.

2442
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 2: It's kind of happening in real time at camp right now.

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02:00:57,440 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 7: He's playing.

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02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 1: How cool is that to watch, by the way, where

2445
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: you see someone start to shine like him right now?

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02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's great, and it's the most compelling

2447
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 2: part of it is that, unbeknownst to us, his mother

2448
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 2: passed away from a long battle with cancer on March fifth,

2449
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 2: whatever day of the week that was last week. But

2450
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 2: he played in that game against the Dodgers that day

2451
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 2: and hit a home run and we didn't, none of

2452
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 2: us do about that in the media corps until after

2453
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 2: the fact, and we just spoke to Nate about it

2454
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 2: this morning. So he's playing kind of to honor his

2455
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 2: mom right now, and that's that's super admirable and interesting,

2456
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 2: and he's gonna stay in camp. He's stayed in camp

2457
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 2: and is going to stay in camp and try to

2458
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 2: win a roster spot for himself. So and then you know,

2459
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 2: look getting back to the big view of those four

2460
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 2: available spots bench spots. Well, Benson has to be in

2461
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 2: that conversation, and you know that's five players right there

2462
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 2: that you would like to have on this team. But

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02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 2: the way I see it, there are only four spots

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02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 2: for those five names. And there might be other guys

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02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 2: that I'm over I'm overlooking at the moment, but.

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Speaker 7: You know that.

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02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 2: Those are the kinds of Blake Don We're just talking

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02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 2: about him. He's had a good camp. There are just

2469
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,520
Speaker 2: gonna be These guys are gonna do what the Reds

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02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 2: need them to do, which is force Terry Francona and

2471
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 2: his staff to make really tough decisions.

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Speaker 7: That's ultimately what you.

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02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 1: Want difficult in that situation or exactly what you look

2474
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 1: for this Pat Brnn and covering the Reds, So from

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02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: the Inquiry talking to me earlier from the desert and

2476
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:41,080
Speaker 1: Goodyear Reds and Diamondbacks getting at it shortly, David Armbrewster,

2477
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna get you teed up with the inside pitch. Tommy

2478
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: Thraw the Cowboy with the call Good Show Today. Doctor

2479
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 1: An Romaker on sleep issues. Doctor Glenn Door from Cedarville

2480
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: University on the Iran situation. A whole lot of other

2481
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 1: stuff going on. Good conversation, Kevin Carr. And here's a

2482
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: little sound too that Ydy gave us. You know, mister

2483
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:02,400
Speaker 1: Abbott is now going to be the number one, at

2484
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: least at the start of the season. He will get

2485
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: opening days start. Here's what he had to say about

2486
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:08,000
Speaker 1: that earlier too.

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Speaker 16: You know, I think it's awesome, you know, I I

2488
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 16: don't take anything for granted. I'm honored to Representaincinnati and

2489
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 16: let Dad, I know. It's being there and seeing how

2490
02:03:15,480 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 16: big of a holiday and how big it celebrated. It's great,

2491
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:20,839
Speaker 16: you know, being having the chance with all the teammates,

2492
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:22,200
Speaker 16: with all the talent we having this team means a

2493
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 16: lot to me too. Any one of those guys deserve it.

2494
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 16: But I'm excited to take the ball and give it

2495
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 16: my all.

2496
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 7: Your thoughts about the transition from last year this year

2497
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 7: and how different it.

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Speaker 5: Is, I mean, started started really at the bottom.

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Speaker 16: It's hurt dur spring training, late start, you know, just

2500
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 16: trying to get by, get through healthy, and then you know,

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02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 16: kind of turn it into a really my best one

2502
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 16: so far. I mean, obviously build on it, learn from it,

2503
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 16: and it's a new year. This year, so guys are

2504
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 16: gonna have different approaches and be ready for you. So

2505
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 16: you know we're changing as they are, and just super

2506
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 16: excited to do that again.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 1: That is today's announcement and the comments about that from

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02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 1: a rabbit, he'll be your opening day starter coming up

2510
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 1: here with the Reds with the Red Sox, but that's

2511
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away. They take on the Diamondbacks

2512
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 1: pre game straight ahead. You got a davitr Armbrewster with that,

2513
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned in of course, Cowboy and Tommy Thrall

2514
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: with the call. Thank you Sean McMahon. Keep me online

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Speaker 1: and on time, Alex. You get a bunch of other

2516
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 1: good conversation today. Have a good week. I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon.

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