1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: We always love to go and see what's cooking at 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the California Science Center. We were able to catch up 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: with the Senior vice president for Special Events at the 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: California Science Center, doctor Diane Purlov, who's here to tell 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: us all about the brand new exhibit, the World of Mummies. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: We all think of mummies as king time, so there's 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: some of that, but there's more than that and this 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Mummies exhibit. So explain to us a little bit what 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: we're going to see when we come to this exhibit. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Well, Mummies of the World has over thirty animal and 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: human mummies from South America, from Europe, from ancient Egypt. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: We have mummies that we have mummies from a crypt crypts, 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: natural mummies from the crypt's, natural mummies from various other places, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: and also intentionally mummified specimens such as the ones you 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: see in the Egyptian gallery. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Okay, now, one of the ones that we saw that 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: is not Egyptian that was really interesting to me. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it was from Peru. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: But it it's a mummy like that looks like they 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: put it in a basket. Yes, can you tell us 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: about that one? 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: Yes, these are basket mummies or bundle mummies, and they 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: come from the Andean region in South America, and this 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: was a common way of enturing and burying people for 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: centuries in that part of the world. It was a 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: very respectful way to bury someone. They would put them 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: as deceased in a fetal position because they felt that 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: it was important for the people to be able to 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: leave this world like they came into this world, it 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: wasn't that nice, and. 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: Then go to the afterlife like that. 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: They would wrap them with the l with linen, try 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: ropes around it, put them in a basket. 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: With some ambulets with food. 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: And then and then yes, and put them in the 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: basket and either be buried in cemeteries or in tombs. 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: So interesting that even though it's in different parts of 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the world, it's similar to what happens with the Egyptian mummy. 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: So you mentioned the amulets and getting them ready for 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: the afterlife, So that is sort of a consistency. 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: We even see that with more modern mummies, like the 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: nineteenth century vash mummies. They were they were found in a. 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: In a church crypt. 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: But he had a cross in his hand, across in 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: his hand upon his chest and another type. There's other 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: mummies that had some amulets with them. And so what 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: that says to me is that these mummies were were 48 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: buried with incredible respect, right, incredible respect, and with an 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: eye toward the afterlife. 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Right? And is this with the mummies? 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: They probably didn't mummify everybody. So was it like dignitaries 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: and leaders and that kind of stuff, or did they 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: mummify everybody? 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, like for instance with the with the mummy, the 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: natural mummification this was this was they would bury everybody 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: like that. Oh like this was this was you were 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: buried in a k underneath your house or in a 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: crypt in the church. 59 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: Gross. 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you would naturally mummify. 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was just like being buried. 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh okay, because it's buried, but some of them naturally 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: mummify because of the environmental conditions. 64 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: Okay. 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Then the but the intentional mummification like the Egyptians, that 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: was this was done uh yeah, the type of mummification 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: we see with the sarcophagus and the beads and all 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: of that, that was more for uh elites, okay. 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: And the really cool thing about the Egyptian the Egyptian 70 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: exhibit that you have is there, there's a sarcophag. It's 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: which is the outer shell, and then underneath is actually 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the mummy. So you can see the inside and the outside. 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: So it's a kind of a really cool thing that 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen. Yeah, as a display, that was intent. 75 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: That was intentional because we wanted people to be able 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: to see the mummy and and this as well as 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: the sarcophagus. 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Well, okay, and then you guys have taken it ae 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: a step further because now we have technology, and so 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: you brought the USC's Keck in and they did some 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: cool stuff with the mummies that you have here. 82 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: All of the full body mummies have CAT scans associated 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: with them already, but with this one, with the Egyptian mummies, 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: we didn't have an existing CT scan. So we partnered 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: with KEK and they did the CT scan for these 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: mummies and they gave us incredible new information that we 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: didn't have before. 88 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Okay, and I want to talk about the one thing 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: that you shared with me, and that is that there 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: was a part of the spine that you had three 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: D printed after the scan, and you can see that 92 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: from two thousand years ago, they did some sort of 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: surgery or something on that spine. 94 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: Yes, this was a lower vertebrae. 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: This was ness Man who lived in the Ptolemaic period, 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: and he had a compressed and is l two lower 97 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: vertebrae that must have been incredibly painful. And they scan 98 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: that and then they did a model of hands on 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: model of it, and you can see that there's a 100 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: hole behind it, like right from the back that goes 101 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: right into that vertebrae. And they can tell that it 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: was man made, that it was not a natural hole, 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: just by the serration around the surface. So they believe 104 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: that it's a sign of trepanation, which is the type 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: of surgery that existed back then, or you would poke 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: a hole, you know, through a bone to try to 107 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: alleviate pain. 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: That's amazing, don't They were doing work? 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: Yes, but there's there. They believe through the research that 110 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: they knew it happened back then. 111 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. But if this was actually that case, this is 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: the the. 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: The only physical example that we have of it happening 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: in an Egyptian mummy. 115 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Okay, and then I want to talk about cats because 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: we know that cats were you know, very highly regarded 117 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: as they should be. Yeah, and you have some very 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: cool a little bit free, hey, but very cool mummies 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: of cats. 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: Yes, we have one intentional mummy of a cat in 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: the Egyptian section, and that is beautiful. And the cats 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: symbolize certain deities and protection of the mummy, so that 123 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: would be buried in somebody's tomb. 124 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: So much to see and so much to learn. I 125 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: love this. 126 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: Now, how long is this exhibit going to be here 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: for people to come see? 128 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: It opens on February seventh and runs through September seventh. 129 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: Okay, great, and then how do we get more information 130 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: about it? 131 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: You can go online to Californiascience Center dot org or 132 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: come to our box office and yet tickets. 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Okay, doctor Burlo, thank you so much for taking some time. 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: This has been so interesting. 135 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait to go and look around the rest 136 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: of the exhibit. We're out and about for mummies at 137 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: the California Science Center. It's a very cool exhibit. It's 138 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: very cool again the California Science Center. It's free to 139 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: go to, but for the special exhibits they do have 140 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: a charge. So if you are interested in going, go 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to the California Science Center's web page and you can 142 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: get all the information it opens on Saturday. Also, if 143 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: you want to see some more of the mummies, I 144 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: have a short video up there now of some but 145 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: mummies who were found under a church and they naturally mummified, 146 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: so it wasn't done like it was in Egypt, but 147 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: they naturally mummified. And then I'm going to post another 148 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: video of the interview that'll have more of the mummies. 149 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: Really cool and very creepy.