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Speaker 2: So if you're like me and a big UC basketball fan,

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Speaker 2: Moegger Show and for the radio station as a whole,

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Speaker 1: We've got a shot we can win this division.

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Speaker 2: make our guest wait. So you see wins last night,

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Speaker 1: Tip Off is going to be at six point thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is obviously going to be the third consecutive year

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Speaker 1: How are you No, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully some momentum for this game because of the respective

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt. You know, it is

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm older and off I've watched Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, your boy Joe Frederick tells me there's going to

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Speaker 3: The guys eat up with it. He doesn't accept, you.

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Speaker 3: You saw it last night. His game plan, his recruiting,

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Speaker 4: Louisville's going to be top ten.

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Speaker 3: Both will come in undefeated. I mean, what's not to like?

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Speaker 1: No, you can't beat it.

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Speaker 2: It's a Friday night, it's a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: Those events have gone pretty well, correct.

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Speaker 3: What's great about it, there's still plenty of really good

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Speaker 3: seats left because the tension, and we're used to this.

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Speaker 3: November sales are always a little slow, but it will

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Speaker 3: sell out and it's going. It jumped a ton today,

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Speaker 3: as you can imagine with both teams winning last night.

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Speaker 3: I think the excitements there. Ticketmaster dot com, get your

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Speaker 2: It should be a lot of fun. I love the

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Speaker 2: fact that Cincinnati and Louisville are playing. Hopefully it's something

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Speaker 2: that continues, as does this event. Brooks, We thank you

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Speaker 2: for the time, man, thanks so much. Appreciate it MO

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Speaker 2: anytime that's our guy Brooks Downing BDG Sports. You see

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Speaker 2: chev dot Com. Joe Flacco not throwing today at Bengals practice.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow there but not doing eleven on eleven work,

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Speaker 2: So I guess Jake Browning is getting.

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Speaker 1: All the first team reps. That's great.

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Speaker 2: Bengals and Steelers Sunday at one live on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty and tonight Bengals game plan Wall to wall covered

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Speaker 2: to the Bengals from six to eight on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty as well. Zach Taylor today is saying that Jamar

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Speaker 2: Stewart continues to be considered week to week with his

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Speaker 2: knee injury. Trey Hendrickson is still doubtful for Sunday. Nick

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Speaker 2: Crawl says Hunter Green being traded quote not on the table.

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Speaker 2: GM meetings happening in Las Vegas. College basketball tonight NKU

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Speaker 2: is at East Tennessee State at seven. That game is

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports thirteen sixteen. Also, tonight, Indiana takes on Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Indiana just played a team from Milwaukee this weekend. A

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Speaker 2: hammred Marquette College football Tonight, Miami and Toledo hookup in

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Speaker 2: Oxford at seven o'clock. The RedHawks trying to attain ball eligibility,

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Speaker 2: and the Cincinnati Cyclones played This morning Morning hockey in Toledo,

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Speaker 2: and they fall to the Walleye. Wowye, they fall to

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Speaker 2: the Walleye by a score of three to two, sixteen

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Speaker 2: away from four o'clock. Rick Brewing on Xavier and NKU

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Speaker 2: basketball next, and it's NKU basketball on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

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Speaker 2: The Norse on the road tonight against Kenny Chesney's alma mater,

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Speaker 2: East Tennessee State University, tip off at seven pm.

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Speaker 1: Rick Brewing and Jim kelch will have the call.

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Speaker 2: Rick Colorman on NKU radio broadcasts and the proprietor of

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Speaker 2: Musketeer Report dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Rick, what's up? How's is it? Johnson City, Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: You're all over it.

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Speaker 5: It's nice.

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Speaker 6: It's like the nation's largest collection of chain restaurants.

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Speaker 4: You've ever seen?

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Speaker 1: So, I saw you had lunch of chilies today? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how was that?

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Speaker 5: I'm a chili guy. It was good. It's kind of like.

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Speaker 6: Combining my favorite part of the Mexican food visit, which

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Speaker 6: is the free chips and soda with burgers. So it's solid.

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Speaker 2: I went to Chili's in Florence, uh, maybe a month

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Speaker 2: and a half ago, and I got a burger and

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Speaker 2: the server told me that I have pretty blue eyes.

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Speaker 2: So as far as I'm concerned, chilies can do no wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now I will talk about your fashion Faull pod Chili's

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Speaker 2: coming up here in just a bit, but let's begin

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Speaker 2: with Xavier. A very pleasant topic right now is the

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Speaker 2: Musketeers were smoked by Santa Clara. I think a lot

501
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Speaker 2: of us expected the Musketeers this season to not be

502
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Speaker 2: very good. I didn't expect that. I say this not

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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of a guy looked through a lens

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Speaker 2: of a fan of another team. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I've seen a major, a high major team perform as

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Speaker 2: poorly in a quote by game as whole at home

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Speaker 2: as I saw Xavier did on Monday.

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 6: I think there are so many questions that come from

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Speaker 6: that game, even for someone like me. I mean, you

511
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Speaker 6: were shocked when I said in your studio that I

512
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Speaker 6: thought they were going to lose twenty games this year,

513
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Speaker 6: so I was pretty well aware of the reality that

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Speaker 6: was to come for this team. I would probably lower

515
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Speaker 6: my prediction now I had them around eleven wins, I'd

516
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Speaker 6: probably dropped that to like seven ish wins. Now at

517
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Speaker 6: this point, with the way things are going so far.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, you have your leading score coming into

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00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 6: that game, Elite Mesina Moore not even attempt a shot,

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Speaker 6: just so many different things where you get outscored in

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Speaker 6: the paint the way that they did in that game.

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Speaker 6: I mean, anything that you point to was pretty much

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Speaker 6: a really bad look for this team. And here's the

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Speaker 6: problem though, Yes it was a bad effort. Yes they

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Speaker 6: probably weren't playing hard enough or tough enough for any

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Speaker 6: of those things.

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the.

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Speaker 6: Day, it didn't look like it was just something where

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Speaker 6: oh they didn't show up tonight, and if you played

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Speaker 6: that game ten more times, they'd win seven of them.

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Speaker 6: They were completely outclassed in every way. And in fact,

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Speaker 6: I think if they played that game ten more times,

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Speaker 6: Santa Clara would at least win eight of the ten.

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Speaker 1: It's not all ten.

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Speaker 6: I mean they just looked like clearly the better team.

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Speaker 2: I think there were obviously worlds where Santa Clara won

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Speaker 2: the game. I mean, I get that Herb Scendek has

538
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: been around for a long time. Whatever is Xavier is

539
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: not expected to be very good. There's a difference between

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Speaker 2: losing the game and putting that on the floor. So

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Speaker 2: you know, in this day and age, people go, well,

542
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Speaker 2: that's that's the best, that's the best, that the best

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Speaker 2: roster you could buy. Is that the best roster they

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Speaker 2: could buy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think two things can be true here. One

546
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Speaker 6: is that Richard Patino and his staff were an impossible

547
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Speaker 6: situation when they came in this spring, like into the portal.

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Speaker 6: We talked about that last week on the show, where

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Speaker 6: it's like, hey, all these big football schools with the

550
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Speaker 6: new rules that kicked in on July first, they were

551
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Speaker 6: emptying their collectives, paying a bunch of money up front,

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Speaker 6: and then also after July first, the school has been

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Speaker 6: going the kick in and start paying the players as well,

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Speaker 6: so you're kind of double dipping. We saw, you know,

555
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Speaker 6: we're here in Kentucky spent upwards of twenty plus million.

556
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Speaker 6: Louisville did something similar, and you know, even Cincinnati spent

557
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Speaker 6: well over ten million from according to reports. So you know,

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Speaker 6: Xavier was somewhere in the neighborhood of five and a

559
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Speaker 6: half six million, depending on what you believe. And they

560
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Speaker 6: not only were at that level, but they had replaced

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Speaker 6: their entire roster and it's common to replace you know,

562
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Speaker 6: sixty seventy percent of your roster nowadays, but replacing every

563
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Speaker 6: single minute on your roster is a really difficult task.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's an impossible situation to walk into, especially

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Speaker 6: the in last year's situation in the transfer portal. I

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Speaker 6: don't think they were likely to have a very good

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Speaker 6: team this year, regardless of how they did. I think

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Speaker 6: it's also fair to look at that and say, but

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Speaker 6: you know, Santa Clara Lemoyne Marist, these teams all probably

570
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Speaker 6: aren't spending more than five and a half six million,

571
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Speaker 6: and yes, they don't have to replace an entire roster.

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Speaker 6: But I think that's the concern that people are seeing

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Speaker 6: is like, Okay, we're hoping that you spent that money

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Speaker 6: with the idea of some of these guys are going

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Speaker 6: to be worthwhile players that you can maybe retain and

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Speaker 6: build something around, and so far, they look like they're

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Speaker 6: not good enough to beat mid major teams. And yes,

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Speaker 6: I know there are a lot of moving parts. Yes

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Speaker 6: I know they can improve as the season goes on,

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Speaker 6: but it's hard to imagine what these guys are going

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Speaker 6: to look like when they faced biggest competition here in

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Speaker 6: a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: NK, you played a really good SEC team on Saturday

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Speaker 2: and got smoked.

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Speaker 6: What happened, you know, shockingly, I think I was kind

586
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Speaker 6: of encouraged from an NKU perspective. The big issue they

587
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Speaker 6: faced against Tennessee was that Tennessee had six guys in

588
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 6: their main rotation six eight or bigger, and a couple

589
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: of those guys are like in the six to eleven range.

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Speaker 6: They dominated points in the pay outscored at NKU by

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Speaker 6: like thirty.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 6: They were rebounding constantly on the offensive end, and I

594
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 6: think that's a legitimate concern for this year for MKU.

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Speaker 6: They're not a very big team.

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Speaker 1: When LJ.

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Speaker 6: Wells is off the floor, I'm concerned about how they'll

598
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: rebound on the defensive end. But they don't face teams

599
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Speaker 6: with those types of front courts in the Horizon League,

600
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Speaker 6: and they got off to a good start physically on

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Speaker 6: the perimeter. They didn't look overmatched. I thought Donovan O'Day

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Speaker 6: and Cal Robinson, the two guys that we talked about

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Speaker 6: after the opener against Juice Claremont, who has scored very well,

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Speaker 6: they still looked the part. They were scoring early and

605
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 6: often in this game for MKU looked like go two

606
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 6: pieces on the offensive end I think overall this team

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Speaker 6: has more offensively. The key will be how quickly can

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Speaker 6: they put it together defensively and can they rebound enough

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Speaker 6: to beat the better teams on their schedule.

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Speaker 2: Tonight NKU was taking on East Tennessee State. Tony Bobbitt

611
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Speaker 2: hit a three point shot against East Tennessee State with

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Speaker 2: about fifteen seconds to go to beat that team in

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Speaker 2: Columbus in the NCAA Tournament in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 2: Should we expect a game that tonight is equally as dramatic.

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Speaker 6: I hope so I'd love to call something like that.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, East Tennessee State's been been pretty

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Speaker 6: good in recent year. Steve Forbes had them going and

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Speaker 6: now Brook Savage had a pretty good season with them

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Speaker 6: last year, and they expect to be decent again this season.

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Speaker 6: They weren't right round one fifty in ken Pom right now,

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Speaker 6: NK You's sitting around two eighty six. So if NKU

622
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Speaker 6: could could pull off a dramatic win like that on

623
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Speaker 6: the road, that'd be something I.

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Speaker 1: Noticed on Instagram.

625
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: He took a picture of your feet at the Chili's

626
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Speaker 2: restaurant you there in Tennessee wearing two different shoes, A

627
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Speaker 2: different shoe on your left foot than your right?

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Speaker 1: Number one?

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Speaker 2: Is this how you've been walking around Tennessee all day?

630
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Speaker 2: And will that be the attire tonight?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So correction, that was back at the hotel. This issue

633
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Speaker 6: was I went to shoot around, went to Chile, came

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Speaker 6: all the way back to the hotel, and then as

635
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Speaker 6: I was like, you know, settling into the hotel again

636
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Speaker 6: and taking off my shoes, I said, what happened here?

637
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Speaker 6: I have two different shoes on, And it's startling to

638
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Speaker 6: know I'm at that age mill where something like that

639
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 6: can happen. But I did do that all day long.

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Speaker 6: I didn't intend to do it, and no one called

641
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Speaker 6: me out on it, which is a little unsettling too,

642
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Speaker 6: because it's like for people just being really nice, hopefully

643
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 6: they just don't even care what I'm doing. They're not

644
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Speaker 6: noticing me. But like what if they were just sitting

645
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Speaker 6: there noticing it and being like, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 5: That guy's a mess, that's how he is.

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Speaker 2: I think what you have learned is an important lesson

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Speaker 2: about people's self absorption.

649
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Speaker 1: Absorption.

650
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Speaker 2: Years ago, I went out and for circumstances, for reasons

651
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Speaker 2: that are wholly unimportant, I only shaved half my face,

652
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Speaker 2: and as I was out, I realize I've only shaved

653
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Speaker 2: half my face. And I was self conscious about this

654
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Speaker 2: all night long, and then about midway through the evening,

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, people are wrapped up in their

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Speaker 2: own tough that me having half my face shaved is

657
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Speaker 2: going to escape everybody's notice because they don't care. And

658
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Speaker 2: I think something similar happened with you.

659
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's right. I don't think anyone really

660
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: cares what's on my feet, so I think that's probably

661
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 6: exactly what happened. Then that's good, But overall, I'm a

662
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 6: little concerned about my own mental state that I can

663
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Speaker 6: walk out of a hotel room with two different shops there.

664
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

665
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Speaker 2: If the biggest issue reflective of your mental state is

666
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Speaker 2: the fact that you have two different shoes on, you're

667
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 2: in really really good.

668
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Speaker 6: Shape, Well there are probably plenty of other concerning signs,

669
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Speaker 6: then I guess, but that's one of them.

670
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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I understand. Rick. Thank you very much,

671
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Speaker 1: Thanks Moll.

672
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Speaker 2: You'll hear Rick tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty NK

673
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: You and East Tennessee State. He will be on the

674
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Speaker 2: call with Jim Kelch yes twenty one years ago in Columbus,

675
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Tony Bobbitt like fifteen fourteen to fifteen seconds, Togo hits

676
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: A three Bearcats trailed most of the day, beat East

677
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: Tennessee State, and then two days later got absolutely annihilated

678
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Speaker 2: by Illinois.

679
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: So there you go.

680
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Speaker 2: Twenty one years ago. Feels like Jess yesterday in Columbus.

681
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Hunter Green's not going to be traded. That's not me

682
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: saying and it's basically Nick Krawl saying it. We'll talk

683
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: about it next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

684
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: Hey, what if you could chase for the cup? Baby?

685
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: Pat pat Cronin, Pat Pat He was on the show,

686
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Hell's Pat Cronan. Pat Noonan was on the show yesterday

687
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: the coach of FC Cincinnati.

688
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Speaker 1: And that's a fun dude to talk to.

689
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Speaker 7: Uh.

690
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: And if you missed that conversation, you can go listen

691
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: to it right now on the iHeartRadio app. We are

692
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: guest free UH for about thirty minutes. Amy Wanger's going

693
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: to join us from Dean Dorton to talk about sports

694
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: and money and betting and so much more. And we

695
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: can't wait. We love having Amy on the show. Five

696
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: point three seven, nine, fifteen, thirty will get you in.

697
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: So the the Major League Baseball GM meetings have been

698
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: happening in Las Vegas, and Nick Krawl is there. Nick

699
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: Krawl has been asked about the possibility of trading Hunter Green.

700
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm reading here from Gordon Wittenbeyer of Cincinnati dot Com,

701
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: and Nick Krawl shoots down the idea that the Reds

702
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: have or are shopping Hunter Green says quote not on

703
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Speaker 2: the table, says he doesn't want to rule anything out,

704
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: but he says he has a difficult time envisioning trading

705
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: the staff. Ace also goes on to talk about the

706
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: need for starting pitching death. Nick Krawl is right, they

707
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: need more starting pitching death. By the way, they traded

708
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: for a starting pitcher during the season last year, that's

709
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: how much they needed starting pitching depth.

710
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Injuries pop up.

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00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't think the Reds have a starting pitcher or

712
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: a young starting pitcher who doesn't have at least some

713
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: injury on their resume, and in Hunter Green's case, an

714
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: injury every single year. But Hunter Green is a cause

715
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: controlled staff ace who yes, I know, pitched very poorly

716
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: in the postseason, but is still one of the best

717
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: pitchers in baseball, and by the way, hence some great

718
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: starts down the stretch that if they don't win those games,

719
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: the Reds don't make the postseason. There is no better

720
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: commodity in this sport then cost controlled staff ace.

721
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Hunter Green is.

722
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: So you do not shop him without trying to get

723
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: back a boatload in return. Or you build your team

724
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: around him and you acquire what you need, and the

725
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: Reds need a lot, you acquire what you need.

726
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know using free agency.

727
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: So the Kyle Schwarber thing continues to come up, and yes,

728
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: it is exceptionally unrealistic, and I hate that it is.

729
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: It's one of the few things I like I hate

730
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: about the Reds that we don't even really turn the

731
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: hot stove fully on because we don't even entertain the

732
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: possibility that they'll go and get the biggest names and

733
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: the biggest stars out there. Sometimes the biggest names aren't

734
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: the best solutions, but we just we discount possibilities before

735
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: they're ever really possible. You may blame the Reds for that,

736
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: You may blame Baseball's economics for that. Some will blame

737
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: the media for that because I've seen that. But I

738
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: hate it. I said this last year. The Pete Alonzo

739
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: thing should have been a thing, but we all knew

740
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't. And that kind of stinks with the Kyle

741
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: Schwarber thing in particular. And I guess when it comes

742
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: to other high end stars. Number one, if it's mo,

743
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber is not going to be the guy they

744
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: get fine. Like fine, we all acknowledge they need pop.

745
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: We all acknowledge they need somebody who can hit the

746
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: long ball, provide some protection to some of the other

747
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: hitters they have. If it doesn't come in the form

748
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: of one of the top of the market guys, where

749
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: is where are those things going to come from?

750
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: Now?

751
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: Some will say, well, they could trade for a slugger,

752
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: and again like would you rather trade good starting pitcher

753
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: or just spend a little bit more money. You'll also

754
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: hear this, well, they can't afford it. Now, this might

755
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: just be a semantics thing, but there is a difference

756
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: between not being able to afford something and not being

757
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: willing to pay for something. There's lots of things I

758
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: cannot afford. I could spend the remaining hour and forty

759
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: nine minutes naming them for you. Lots of things I

760
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: cannot afford. Then there are some things that I can afford,

761
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: but I just I'm not willing to pay the price

762
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: to get I'm told I badly need a new iPhone.

763
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: The iPhone I have works fine, but like I I

764
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: got the I got a I got a twelve Mini, which,

765
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm fine with.

766
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't care.

767
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: I could text, I could tweet, I could listen to

768
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. It takes a picture. I'm good.

769
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: But like everybody in my life.

770
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: Is bro, you need a new phone. It's okay, It's

771
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: about time. So I look up the latest iPhone, the

772
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: iPhone seventeen, I guess. And I'm as not into the

773
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: up to the minute iPhones as anybody you'll ever talk to.

774
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: And so if I sound out of touch, it's because

775
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: I am, because this world is just not that important

776
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: to me. But I looked it up this weekend. All right,

777
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: what would the latest iPhone cost? There are obviously less

778
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: current models that I could buy for a lot less.

779
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: I saw it for like eleven hundred bucks. Could I

780
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: afford eleven hundred bucks?

781
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

782
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could afford eleven hundred bucks. Am I willing

783
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: to pay eleven hundred bucks for a phone. Absolutely not

784
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: personal preference. Would rather throw my money elsewhere. The Reds

785
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: could afford Kyle Schwarber, Like there is money there. There's

786
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 2: a difference though, between well, they can't afford him, which

787
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: you hear from a lot of people who love to

788
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: root for the spreadsheet, I guess, and that's just not

789
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: something they're willing to pay for. There are some good

790
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: arguments that can be made in favor of and against

791
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: signing a guy like Kyle Schwarber. He is thirty two,

792
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: decent chance his best years are behind him, but I

793
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: would say he's still a pretty good bet to hit

794
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: the ball out of the ballpark thirty five to forty times.

795
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: And if that means I have to pay for an

796
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: extra year down the road in order to get him now,

797
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm willing to do it. There's a difference between we

798
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: don't have the money and we would rather not pay.

799
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: There's a difference between we just don't have the cash

800
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: and we would like to spend our cash on other things.

801
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: This is an example of it, and I've heard it already.

802
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: When they can't afford him, sure they can. First of all,

803
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: they've set a budget, Kyle Schwarber may or may not

804
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: be within their budget.

805
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Chances are he is not. If they really wanted to expand.

806
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: Their budget, they could, like by reaching out to the

807
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: other owners of the team who they never borrow money from.

808
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Like there are ways to do it again.

809
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Man, you may just argue, regardless of what your budget is,

810
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: regardless of what your playing payroll for the upcoming season is,

811
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 2: regardless of what your team's revenues are, regardless of your

812
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: market size, he just doesn't represent a great investment. You

813
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: will find mark general managers. You will find rich owners

814
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: who will look at Kyle Schwerber and go.

815
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of years ago, but not right now.

816
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: I think that's a little absurd, given the fact that

817
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: the dude's a walking home run.

818
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: But okay, but.

819
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Please, maybe just only for my sanity, let's not frame

820
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: it as they cannot afford him.

821
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: They could.

822
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: I will be convinced they can't afford the top of

823
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: line guys when they hold their pockets out and there's

824
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: nothing in them, or when they show us the books,

825
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: or when they tell us they have to sell the

826
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: team asap in order to keep the lights on. None

827
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: of those things have happened. None of those things are

828
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: going to happen. So it really is a matter of

829
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: preference what they prefer to spend their money on, what

830
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: they're looking for in terms.

831
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Speaker 1: Of roster composition.

832
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: They may view the dollar the dollar amount that you

833
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: would throw at one guy is something that would make

834
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: a lot more sense to throw at a whole bunch.

835
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: Of other guys.

836
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: For me, I want the dude who's going to hit

837
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: forty five home runs next year, and that's if he

838
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: hits eleven fewer than he did this season. But there

839
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: is a big, big difference between can't afford and won't pay.

840
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: There are lots of things, lots of things that I

841
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: can afford but I ain't paying for. If I own

842
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: the Reds, I'd pay for Kyle Schwarber because I could

843
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: afford him. Sixteen minutes after four o'clock five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

844
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our phone them. This is ESPN fifteen thirty,

845
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station follows.

846
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 8: You buy Modern Office Methods on ESPN fifteen thirty, the

847
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 8: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

848
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 2: Twenty one after four This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Moegar

849
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: Richard Skinner in just about an hour five one, three, seven,

850
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. Let's take a phone call. By

851
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: the way, thank you for putting up with me. I

852
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: had I was off on Thursday and Friday of last week,

853
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: and when I was off, I got like this happens

854
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: once a year. I got a cold and then the

855
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: cold always ends up screwing with my voice. So it's

856
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: not my usually just booming voice, not quite out one

857
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: well say it. It's about seventy maybe sixty yesterday. It's

858
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: getting incrementally better. So thank you for bearing with me,

859
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: because I hate the sound of it as much as

860
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: you do. Uh, Mike, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

861
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: Mike, Hello, fine mother.

862
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 5: Did you get my email with my apology?

863
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: I did not get your email with your apology because

864
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: I had been very busy today.

865
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: What did you apologize for from my uh?

866
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: For my negative text? I think was the emails I

867
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: was sending you last night, taking my aggression out on you,

868
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 5: and you responded very vehemently with your disapproval, and I

869
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 5: don't blame you, so my bad buddy.

870
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Water under the bridge, Mike, what's on your mind?

871
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 5: Did you happen to get to see the well. I

872
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 5: was glad he talked about the Reds. Did you happen

873
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 5: to see last week? I don't remember what day the

874
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 5: Arkansas Michigan State.

875
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: Game I did.

876
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: Was that a dandy?

877
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: Or what?

878
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 4: Boy?

879
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 5: Here comes Calipari one more time. This guy never quits.

880
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: Man.

881
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: You know, early in the season, probably the most entertaining

882
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: game that I have watched. You know, Cincinnati played them

883
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: in an exhibition game back on the twenty fourth, twenty fourth,

884
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: and twenty fifth, and the main takeaway for most UC

885
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: fans was, holy hell, the Bearcats weren't very good, and

886
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: they weren't that night.

887
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: I thought Arkansas that night was awesome.

888
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 5: They're really fast, whether they're almost too fast, Yeah, they're good.

889
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that was It's funny you say that because I thought, like,

890
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: holy hell, the Bearcats want to play fast. They can't

891
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: play as fast and as in control as Arkansas did

892
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: in a game that didn't count. And I saw that

893
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: to a degree against Michigan State as well.

894
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, and of course, and what a classic matchup is

895
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 5: though in calip Paris, it didn't get any better than

896
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 5: that from a coaching standard, it does not, you know,

897
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 5: one one quick baseball thing and then I want to

898
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 5: talk about Jalen Rivers, okay, because I remember telling Tony

899
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: just my humble opinion when they drafted him. I kind

900
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: of was, I'm always intrigued by these guys out of Miami. Why,

901
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 5: I don't know. And I started reading up on this guy.

902
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 5: Extremely versatile. In his last twenty one games at Miami,

903
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: he played at left tackle. He prefers playguard. He's really intelligent.

904
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 5: He's big, six six, three twenty I believe. And I

905
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 5: saw an interview with him after his first appearance. I

906
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: believe it could have been preseason, but and they were

907
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 5: asking him about his reaction to the speed of the

908
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 5: NFL and whatever, and he was he was just, you know,

909
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: of course, echoing everybody else's sentiments that the speed is

910
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: much greater. But I was just extremely impressed with this guy. Mom,

911
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 5: I think Skuy's a limit with this guy.

912
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 9: I really do.

913
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: Well. You mentioned his size.

914
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: I think they list him as three twenty five, but

915
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: he is six', six so he's got the. Size he's

916
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: played guard and tackle in. College you, know look at

917
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: the very least long, term it feels to me like

918
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: he solves a depth. Issue And i'm excited to see

919
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: where he takes the experience he has accumulated so far

920
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: and takes that in a starting role between now and

921
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: the end of the. Season and we talked about this

922
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: With paul yesterday THAT i don't think it's inconceivable that

923
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: by the end of this year we will know what

924
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: the composition of next year's starting offensive line looks, like.

925
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: And Jalen rivers will be a major reason.

926
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: WHY i you, KNOW i, mean OBVIOUSLY i don't know

927
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 5: What paul knows and what you, know but that's just

928
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: my gut. Feeling and just after listening to the kid

929
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 5: for a lengthy interview was on somebody's, Podcast, yeah but

930
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 5: it was in our locker. Room and his attitude is

931
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: clarity of, speech his. FOCUS i was extremely, impressed extremely.

932
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: IMPRESSED i WATCHED i watched a YouTube video on him

933
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: that he did when he was in school and that

934
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: it was it was after the draft because you wanted

935
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: to learn about some of these. Guys so he is

936
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: a dude who is mom and dad were both in The.

937
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: Navy he was a great high school. Athlete he played,

938
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: basketball he lifted, weights he threw the shot, puts so

939
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: he did a little of.

940
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: Everything AND i thought the same.

941
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: Thing look, Up i'm not gonna lie to you and

942
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: told YOU i knew Who Jalen rivers was before The

943
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: bengals drafted, him but just in the course of trying

944
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: to learn about these.

945
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: Guys of all of.

946
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: The things THAT i watched his conversation with AND i

947
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: don't know who it. WAS i don't know if it

948
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: was somebody who Covers miami sports what it, was but

949
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: it came off as very. Impressive and, look when he

950
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to, play he has taken advantage of.

951
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: It and, look if they're ever going.

952
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: To have an elite offensive line, ever not league, average not. Merely,

953
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: okay the only way that is gonna happen is if

954
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: they can nail it in the, draft which means The

955
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: Amarus mims pick has to work. Out a lot of

956
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: signs pointing to the fact that it will means That

957
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: Dylan fairchild pick.

958
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Has to work.

959
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: Out it certainly may and then if you can get

960
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: a bonus by getting a guy in the fifth round

961
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: to stick as a, starter oh, boy it accelerates that process.

962
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 5: Entirely, Yeah i'm very bullish on. This maybe we're underestimating

963
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 5: where this group can. Go if we get rid Of

964
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 5: Lewis patrick Or patrick and a couple of these other dead.

965
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: BEATS i want TO i shouldn't say that they're playing

966
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: ball and making. Money i'm. Not but you know, what

967
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: one thing he did say that impressed me most was he, said,

968
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: look you got to understand there the difference between college

969
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: and the. Press he, said EVERYBODY i play against up,

970
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 5: here if it's in, practice they're all pretty e weite.

971
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 9: Players they just. Are that's why they're up. Here and people,

972
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 9: said and he, said people have to realize that it

973
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 9: takes a long time for a young guy who's not

974
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 9: used to. This because he even, said sometimes will play

975
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 9: SOME fbs teams or this and, that and you can

976
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 9: kind of put let your hair down a little. Bit

977
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 9: but he, said up, here.

978
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

979
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 5: No matter who you're. Playing, yeah, WELL i think it's positive.

980
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: THING i think the play of the offensive line over

981
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: the last few weeks is. ENCOURAGING i would stop short

982
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: of saying that they're said for the, FUTURE i need

983
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: to see another half a, season and certainly do believe

984
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: That Joe flacco has helped make them look.

985
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: Better BUT i do think that over the last couple of.

986
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: Weeks if you've watched the offensive, LINE i think for

987
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: the most, part you've come away pretty pleased with how they've.

988
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 5: Played, yeah the old man might have to go at

989
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: left tack or he might.

990
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Be the flu but maybe maybe, maybe but he, is

991
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 2: he is under, contract and we'll. See there have been

992
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: times this year Where Orlando brown's played like a guy

993
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: who's your?

994
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: Age, yeah good, Shot, Hey Jeff. PASSING i get a

995
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 5: kick out listening to. Him he's pretty young, guy as

996
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 5: well connected as he, is and once he just looks

997
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 5: a lot younger than he really.

998
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: Is But.

999
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: Patrick will interviewed in the other day and he, said,

1000
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: look do The dodgers have just a lock on On japanese?

1001
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 5: Talent and he, said you, know you really are. Right they,

1002
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 5: do and they've cultivated this over the, years and that

1003
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 5: they've made not just the players In, japan but the

1004
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 5: folks In japan the baseball fans believe that The dodgers

1005
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 5: are proud to all these Good japanese players In dodger.

1006
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: Blue and the sales pitch has. Worked they have a

1007
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 5: first basement over, there and his fifty six home runs

1008
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 5: last year with one hundred and forty some RBIs which

1009
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 5: Means freddy would have to either go to THE dh

1010
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 5: or he WOULD. Dh BUT i thought it was an

1011
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 5: interesting comment that The dodgers have cultivated this relationship with

1012
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 5: The japanese baseball.

1013
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: Word, YEAH i, Mean Shoeo tani did go.

1014
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: To anaheim, first right of, course SO i mean that's

1015
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: that's worth pointing. Out but, YEAH i mean Between, yamamoto

1016
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: who's the Reigning World SERIES, mvp And Roki sasaki is

1017
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 2: on that. Team and you, know if there's a such

1018
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: thing as A Global Baseball Superstar. Show, Hey, odannie The

1019
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: dodgers don't have the market, cornered but they've got some

1020
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: of the biggest. Names my guy got a run, Man, okay.

1021
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 5: Thanks, moll appreciate it all, right four p.

1022
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: THIRTY espn fifteen.

1023
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Thirty we'll talk gambling kind of sports and money With Amy.

1024
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Wagner, next.

1025
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: It's, wednesday which means we talk sports and business and

1026
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: money with our Friend Amy wagner From Dean Dorton Private.

1027
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 2: Wealth she is a wealth, advisor she is my. Friend

1028
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: she's here to make us smarter when it comes to

1029
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: the world of sports and money and.

1030
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Business, amy what's.

1031
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 11: Up, hey how are?

1032
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: You i'm Well i'm.

1033
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: Good this baseball betting, STORY i think is interesting from

1034
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: a number of different. Angles it's not necessarily getting the

1035
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: play that THE nba guys, did but to have a

1036
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: couple of, NOW i guess we'll call them Former Cleveland

1037
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: guardians pitchers who are being indicted because it's being alleged

1038
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: that they were fixing. Pitches because you could bet on

1039
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: the speed of a, pitch you could bet on the

1040
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: outcome of a, pitch and these guys were not necessarily

1041
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: trying to lose games or not necessarily trying to have bad,

1042
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: performances but they were throwing certain pitches and their associates

1043
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: were benefiting from. It SO i think for a lot of,

1044
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: folks you're not going to put the toothpaste back in

1045
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: the two because every major sports league has gotten in

1046
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: bed with gambling. Companies and for full, DISCLOSURE i do

1047
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: spots for. FanDuel i use, FanDuel i like sports, wagering

1048
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 2: but every sports league has partnerships with gambling. Companies in your,

1049
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: opinion how problematic are they and how lucrative are?

1050
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 10: They, WELL i, think first of, ALL i have to

1051
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 10: go back and level that Where i'm coming from, here

1052
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 10: right as as a wealth, advisor as a freinancial. Advisor

1053
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 10: this is not the world THAT i tend to live

1054
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 10: in as far As i'm not a huge sports betting. Person,

1055
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 10: HOWEVER i do have some nephews and a brother who

1056
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 10: are a very big into this.

1057
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: World.

1058
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 10: RIGHT i am more of A, Hey i'm gonna spend

1059
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 10: money on, something it better be.

1060
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 11: A long term play in the, market rather than sports.

1061
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 11: Betting so let's back. Up i'm trying to think of

1062
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 11: how long ago this, was maybe seven eight years. AGO

1063
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 11: i went to my brother's house to watch A Super bowl.

1064
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 11: Game this whole neighborhood was.

1065
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 10: There i'm used to betting on the you fill out

1066
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 10: the little block or whatever they put the numbers, in

1067
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 10: if that's the, score the end of, that, yes exactly,

1068
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 10: Exactly so like in this you might laugh at this

1069
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 10: BECAUSE i think for people in a certain world like

1070
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 10: this is like duh. Amy but my brother had in

1071
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 10: his office projected on the wall an entire spreadsheet.

1072
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 7: Of prop, bets and it was an entirely new, world

1073
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 7: an entirely new concept to me that you could have

1074
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 7: bet on what color gator rade was going to be

1075
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 7: thrown on the winnington coach's. Head at the end of the,

1076
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 7: game like what like was mind boggling to. Me AND

1077
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 7: i think it's just so interesting now because you have these,

1078
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 7: players you have these.

1079
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 11: Coaches let's go back To Pete. Rose that's WHERE i

1080
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 11: always go back.

1081
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 5: To.

1082
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 11: Right vilified obviously.

1083
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 10: For maybe changing the outcome of the, game or betting

1084
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 10: on the outcome of a. GAME i wonder if this

1085
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 10: is from a player's, perspective from a coach's, perspective a

1086
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 10: slightly easier pill to, swallow, right because if you want

1087
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 10: to split hairs, HERE i think you. Can i'm not

1088
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 10: necessarily doing something that's going to throw the outcome of this.

1089
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 11: Game i'm simply saying.

1090
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 10: That the first pitch during this at bet is probably

1091
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 10: going to go directly into the. Dirt so if you

1092
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 10: want to bet on a ball here rather than the,

1093
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 10: strike it's probably a safe, bet, Right AND i think

1094
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 10: that is the slippery slope that this goes.

1095
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 11: Down it's not all.

1096
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 10: Or nothing thing anymore for people who can change the

1097
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 10: outcomes of these. Things these bets allow someone to, Say

1098
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 10: i'm going to put the yellow gatorade in the bucket

1099
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 10: And i'm going to tell a few, people, Right and

1100
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 10: it seems kind of.

1101
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 11: Harmless But i'm not saying it.

1102
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 10: Is But i'm just saying you mentioned the toothpaste coming

1103
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 10: out of the. Tube it's all over the, place you,

1104
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 10: know because it's. Sports betting has changed so significantly over

1105
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 10: the course of even just the past few.

1106
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 11: Years so that's exactly what we have.

1107
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 10: At play, here, RIGHT i mean with THESE nba, players

1108
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 10: you with players with these allegations agains, Straight you've got

1109
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 10: allegations AGAINST i pulled myself out of the.

1110
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 11: GAME i, SAID i was. Hurt that's going to change

1111
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 11: the outcome of the, game which.

1112
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 10: Is very DIFFERENT i think than someone or at least

1113
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 10: someone telling themselves this is very different of this one

1114
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 10: pitch in this one.

1115
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 11: Game that's the only Thing i'm changing, here.

1116
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 10: Right and SO i can't imagine that these props bets

1117
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 10: are going to go.

1118
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 11: Down i'm very slippery.

1119
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 10: Slope but who knows what's going to be happening and

1120
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 10: who would be participating in These AND i think you,

1121
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 10: know as someone who's betting on, these it's just so

1122
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 10: interesting how like instant gratification.

1123
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 11: Is we're no longer even going to wait until the

1124
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 11: end of the game to see the, outcome.

1125
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 10: Right we can bet on what's going to happen in

1126
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 10: the first minute or quarter or whatever you want about.

1127
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: ON i think and it's weird and, LOOK i like sports.

1128
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: Wagering i'm not going to hide from. That i'm glad it's.

1129
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: LEGAL i think it's better when it's. Legal, sure BUT

1130
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: i do think it's we've opened up THIS i don't

1131
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: know room where now an athlete can, say, hey, LOOK

1132
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: i wasn't not trying to help our team. Win you,

1133
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: know in the case of THE nba, players they just

1134
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: took themselves out. Right, yeah so, hey you can't accuse

1135
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: me of missing shots intentionally or intentionally playing bad. DEFENSE

1136
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: i just didn't. Play and in the case of these two,

1137
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: CHUCKLEHEADS i still might have retired the. HITTERS i still

1138
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: may have An Emmanuel class's, CASE i still may have

1139
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: gotten the.

1140
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: Safe but in this one particular, instance, YEAH i.

1141
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: Throw a, ball which, which by the, way one pitchers

1142
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 2: all the time will throw a pitch that is not

1143
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: necessarily designed to be a strike where it's it's designed

1144
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: to move the hitter's eye, level not to get too

1145
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: deep into the weeds of.

1146
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: Pitching that to me is going to be really really

1147
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: hard to.

1148
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: Police if we continue to have prop, bets And i'm

1149
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 2: the first to ADMIT i like making prop bet.

1150
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 10: WAGERS i, mean from my, PERSPECTIVE i think they're more

1151
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 10: attractive as.

1152
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 11: WELL i mean BECAUSE i do not Have.

1153
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 10: Moa, eggers you, know reams of knowledge of these. Sports

1154
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 10: BUT i can bet on one thing, right you, know

1155
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 10: and feel pretty good about, it and hey if it doesn't.

1156
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 11: Go AND i think the.

1157
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 10: Reminder THAT i would say here is with everything, like

1158
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 10: it has to be.

1159
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 11: Money that is extra. Money it has to be, money you.

1160
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 10: KNOW i mean what we see when people get into

1161
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 10: major issues with sports betting or any kind of, betting

1162
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 10: is they get in over their heads and then they

1163
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 10: are throwing good money at bad money trying to bring

1164
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 10: things back under their.

1165
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 11: Control once you've lost, control you've lost.

1166
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 10: Control there's there's no just the next, hand just the next,

1167
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 10: bet just the next.

1168
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 11: Game it just doesn't work out that.

1169
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 10: Way so if you're betting responsibly with money, that's by the,

1170
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 10: way not your march for your retirement or your vacation

1171
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 10: or your kid's college. Fund you, KNOW i think that

1172
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 10: that's sports, betting you, know and brought betting too can

1173
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 10: be a lot of. Fun SO i would, say you,

1174
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 10: know one thing is just to think like you, know

1175
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 10: everything in. Moderation but second of, all we're still a

1176
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 10: little bit in the Wild west, here you, know and

1177
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 10: this is all, new and so for an amount of,

1178
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 10: TIME i think you have to, expect as someone who's

1179
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 10: actively participating in, this that they're going to be things

1180
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 10: like this that pop up until we can fully get

1181
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 10: our brains and our hands wrapped around this and provide

1182
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 10: a slightly safer environment for people to.

1183
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 11: Bed and if that is such a thing that could, EXIST.

1184
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: I think also when it comes to the two particulars

1185
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: involved here and even THE nba, guys you, know in

1186
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: each case there may have been a good short term.

1187
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: Reward.

1188
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: Right what's being alleged about these two guys is they

1189
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: made a couple of grand for throwing individual. Pitches and

1190
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: that sounds nice until you put at, risk In Emmanuel class's,

1191
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: case a multi million dollar, contract, right and a career

1192
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: that could end up being so lucrative that it provides

1193
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: his family with generation's worth of.

1194
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 11: Wealth and that's a great.

1195
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 10: Point and, listen this applies to so many other financial.

1196
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 10: Decisions AND i say this to my clients all the

1197
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 10: time when you're making a money, decision playing, right DO

1198
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 10: i throw this pitch and make the five thousand dollars

1199
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 10: Because i'll take the extra five thousand dollars right, now

1200
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 10: not thinking about what happens in the. Future what you're

1201
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 10: not thinking about is there's a couple of people in the.

1202
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 11: Room every time you make that. Decision there's your current

1203
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 11: self and your future.

1204
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 10: Self we're always thinking about the current, self give me

1205
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 10: the money, now not ever thinking about wait a, second long.

1206
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 10: Term this is putting my entire, contract my entire, career

1207
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 10: everything That i've worked for SINCE i was a, kid

1208
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 10: and first touch to, baseball or you, know in our

1209
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 10: kind of everyday, world when we buy the car, now

1210
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 10: when we spend double what we can on vacation or

1211
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 10: whatever that is put money into our four oh one

1212
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 10: k you have to balance right between what we need

1213
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 10: now that's going to make us happy, now that's going.

1214
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 11: To get current needs and also future.

1215
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 10: Needs AND i would argue that's a, balance and of,

1216
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 10: course obviously a balance that these dudes were not striking

1217
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 10: when they chose to make these decisions that have now

1218
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 10: put their career in.

1219
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 11: JEOPARDY i, mean.

1220
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 10: They're facing all kinds of, charges you, know wire, fraud money,

1221
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 10: laundering all of those things certainly not something that you

1222
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 10: want people talking about when they're talking about what kind

1223
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 10: of pitches you're.

1224
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: Throwing Amy, Wagner wealth advisor From Dean. DORTON a couple

1225
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 2: of other. Things really. Quick we talked about the YouTube

1226
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 2: VERSUS espn. THING i guess now YouTube subscribers are getting

1227
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: a twenty dollars credit because they can't watch stuff Like

1228
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: saturday college football ON espn Or monday night.

1229
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: Football is there any end of this in? Sight there's STILL.

1230
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 10: I, mean there's still negotiating, here AND i WONDER i

1231
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 10: don't have YouTube. Tv so a subscription monthly now for

1232
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 10: base is A a subscription is about eighty three. Dollars they

1233
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 10: had kind of thrown out there several several days ago

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 10: that maybe there would be the opportunity to get some

1235
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 10: kind of. Refund now that has come to fruition, after

1236
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 10: by the, way missing you, know two weekends of college,

1237
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 10: football And i'm sure people are.

1238
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 11: Really beside themselves at this. POINT a couple of.

1239
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 10: Things if you're someone who might be getting this, is

1240
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 10: first of, all you should get an email at some.

1241
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 10: Point but, second there's a whole and you, know it's

1242
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 10: like they never make these things. Easy you, know if

1243
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 10: you don't automatically log in and have everything, there you

1244
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 10: have to go to settings and then you have to

1245
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 10: go to, updates and then you have to click through seventeen.

1246
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 11: Different things and then click, clean, clean the refund or.

1247
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 10: Whatever so for those who haven't gott an, email first of,

1248
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 10: all check your inbox to see if it's. There, secondly

1249
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 10: looks like there is a way that you can do

1250
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 10: it through the system as it's set. Up you're just

1251
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 10: going to have to click through several. Things there are

1252
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 10: directions online for.

1253
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 11: That but, listen twenty bucks is twenty.

1254
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 10: Bucks if you're upset that you're not being able to

1255
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 10: watch your favorite sport ball right, now well this is

1256
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 10: a way to at least get something for.

1257
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: It get your twenty bucks and then open a fan

1258
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: duel account and wager it on a, player.

1259
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 11: Wager it on The guardian's. Pictures that's. Right that seems like.

1260
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: To, go all, RIGHT i got SOMETHING i want you

1261
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: to touch on next. Week tell you what it is?

1262
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: Now are you? Ready sound?

1263
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 4: Good?

1264
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: ALL i read a story about HOW ai is going

1265
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: to impact how we buy, tickets especially in the secondary,

1266
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: market AND i want to talk about that next.

1267
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: Week, okay so.

1268
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 11: Many thoughts on. That, Yep i'm ready to go there you.

1269
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: Go all, Right thank you so.

1270
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,680
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Speaker 2: O'clock Richard skinner in just over a half hour on The,

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Speaker 2: bengals who are getting set to Play pittsburgh On. Sunday

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Speaker 2: this is the official home of The. BENGALS espn fifteen

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Speaker 2: Thirty Cincinnati Sports. STATION i can tell, you maybe not

1277
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: so much what's going on in THE nfl right, now

1278
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: BUT i can tell you what's going on in. BASEBALL

1279
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: i can tell you what's.

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01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: Going on with The. Reds they have made A they've

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01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: made a.

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01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 2: Move they have acquired from THE La dodgers Catcher Ben

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01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: Rourtvett rotvett arted last year with The rays and then

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01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: was traded to The dodgers in the three team deal

1285
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: that saw The reds Acquire Zach lttel actually started the

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 2: first two games against The reds for The dodgers in

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01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: the postseason and the first two games of The National

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01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: League Division series Against philadelphia Before Will smith.

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01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: Got back from injury and reclaimed his. Position So Ben rhurtvett.

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: Catcher he has been claimed off waivers by The reds

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: from The Los Angeles. Dodgers NOW i just gave you

1292
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: some background on rotvet him playing in the.

1293
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: Postseason he might be. Going, well what about his.

1294
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 2: Numbers he is a career one ninety hitter across two

1295
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty Seven Big league games with nine home,

1296
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: runs including one last. Season Ben, ROTVETT i Know i'm

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01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 2: excited and you should be as. Well uh four, nine

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our. Number eight sixty six seven two three,

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Speaker 2: seven seven. Six those are our phone. NUMBERS i WAS

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Speaker 2: i was looking up to see The Ben roardvetz. Stuff

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 2: computer completely. Stopped actually had he. Had he drove in

1302
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 2: a run in the first game Against cincinnati and had

1303
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: a couple of, hits scored a couple.

1304
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: Of runs in game.

1305
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: Two those playoff games were just over a month. Ago

1306
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: they feel like a lifetime. Ago the postseason in baseball

1307
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: was so. Long there's been so much football stuff going,

1308
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: On lots of Different balls were juggling that The reds

1309
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: in the postseason feels like forever. Ago Joe flak who

1310
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 2: not throwing At bengals practice, today WHICH i don't know

1311
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: if that is a shocking, development but it's an eyebrow raising.

1312
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: One it's not a new.

1313
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: One he didn't throw in The wednesday before their last

1314
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: game against The Chicago, bears and we saw how well he.

1315
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 2: PLAYED i think the question that looms over this team

1316
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: is one will last coming up in the five o'clock,

1317
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: hour Plus uce wins last, Night kentucky loses last. Night

1318
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: The bearcats now played the team that Beat kentucky a

1319
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: week From. Friday we'll get to that coming up in

1320
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: the five o'clock hour as well ON espn fifteen, Thirty

1321
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station, Live Bengals Nation, Lives What's up moweg

1322
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: OR espn fifteen. Thirty thanks for listening. Today hopefully you're

1323
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: having like the most Awesome wednesday of all. Time bengals

1324
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: game plan an hour from, now as soon as we're

1325
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: done With Dan, Horden Dave, lapham two guys who have their.

1326
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: Voices this is the Bud light five O'clock Happy. Hour

1327
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: it comes your. Way thanks to our friends at Bud,

1328
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: light easy to, drink easy to. ENJOY i could go

1329
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: for a nice cold Bud light right. NOW i may

1330
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: have had one after THE Uc dayton game last, night

1331
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: The bearcats winning over The flyers at the Fifth Third.

1332
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: Arena you, know we started the show by talking about.

1333
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 6: It.

1334
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: Tonight i've probably HAD i don't, know eight to.

1335
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 2: Ten conversations with people either via text or here in

1336
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: the office or at lunch. Today twenty four, turnovers, yes

1337
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: twenty four. Turnovers, now there's two different ways to look at.

1338
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: That from A uc, perspective one, is holy, hell is

1339
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: this team going to be that sloppy with the? Basketball

1340
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: because if, so they're in for some. Beatings they're in

1341
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: for some beatings in The Big. Twelve they're in for

1342
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: a beating Against, louisville in for beatings against teams Like

1343
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: clemson In.

1344
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: Georgia that is not good enough and like looming over this,

1345
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: season at least the beginning of.

1346
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: It from a Bear cap perspective is this last year's

1347
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: team underwhelmed a year ago at this, TIME i think

1348
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: there are a lot of us And i'm raising my.

1349
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: HAND i think there are a lot of us who

1350
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 2: were almost taking AN ncaa tournament bid last, season for,

1351
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: granted and as it turned, out they didn't come even.

1352
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: Close it's a thoroughly disappointing. Season and it was a

1353
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: season THAT i think of a lot of folks Put

1354
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: West miller squarely in their, crosshairs and, so you, know

1355
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: and then you kind of saw how things unfolded once

1356
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: the season, ended, RIGHT a team filled with players that

1357
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: collectively kind of felt like they. Underachieved saw those players

1358
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: go to other. Programs some of them have gotten their

1359
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: seasons off to very good. Starts they didn't go you

1360
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 2: know LOWER i was gonna, say fps they didn't go

1361
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: to mid, majors know if they went to places Like,

1362
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 2: Baylor Saint, John's Penn, State, northwestern.

1363
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: They didn't go To division two.

1364
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: Schools so good, players but the pieces last year never

1365
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: really completely. Fit and because of, THAT i think there's

1366
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 2: this skepticism ABOUT uc basketball coming into this season and

1367
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: a little jadedness and a little, wariness.

1368
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: AND i think a real sense OF i need to

1369
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: see it BEFORE i believe it with this.

1370
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: Bunch and so you might win a, game and they,

1371
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: did and you might do a lot of things well

1372
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: in that, game which last, night you see did but

1373
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: you're looking for a lot of reasons to suggest that

1374
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 2: this season is going to be dramatically, different dramatically, different

1375
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: and it's hard to feel that way when you watch

1376
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: them be as sloppy with the basketball as they've been

1377
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 2: over their first three, games AND i think in particular

1378
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: last night now to a, degree the other way of

1379
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: looking at things, is, yeah they turned it over twenty four.

1380
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: Times they also won relatively.

1381
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: Comfortably dayton was obviously very complicit in its own, demise

1382
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 2: missing all those outside, shots the worst outside shooting performance

1383
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: BY ud team in eleven, years and as the game went,

1384
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: ON i, think in particular in the second, half lots

1385
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: of really good looks FOR, ud.

1386
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: But The bearcats did turn it over twenty four.

1387
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: Times also missed a ton of free, throws and they've

1388
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: been a bad free throw shooting team so far in

1389
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 2: the first three, games miss. Fourteen last night the percentage

1390
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: was like sixty percent on a night Where Dayde thomas

1391
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: went ten for.

1392
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: Ten it's kind of hard to do as a. Team

1393
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: but those are things that you can.

1394
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: Fix those are things that you can, Address those are

1395
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: things that you could put in the rear view mirror

1396
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: and almost reverse over the course of an entire. Season

1397
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: if they, do there's lots of things to suggest this

1398
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: team could be pretty good this.

1399
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: Year if they, don't, well.

1400
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: Then what has become painfully familiar FOR uc, fans myself

1401
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 2: included is having The bearcats and they not pop up.

1402
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: On the screen On Selection. Sunday we will, see we will.

1403
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: See but, yes twenty four turnovers last. Night that ain't

1404
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna cut it in most, games the games against better.

1405
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: Competition eleven after five, o'clock and it ain't gonna cut

1406
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: it Against. Louisville THEN i thought they were the bigger

1407
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: story last night Than kentucky. Was although The wildcats JUST

1408
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: i simply think offensively in the two stretches where they

1409
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: dug themselves an eighteen point hole in a twenty point,

1410
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 2: hole just offensively weren't good enough and didn't rebound the

1411
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: ball well. Enough they had some of their own issues.

1412
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 2: Defensively that's always the case when another team scores in

1413
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: the mid. Nineties but A uk team that at times

1414
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: this year very early has looked awesome offensively had their

1415
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: moments last. NIGHT i thought when they cut it to

1416
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: four in the second, HALF i legitimately thought they were

1417
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: gonna win the, game but you can't dig those holes

1418
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: they dug last.

1419
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: Night and they did primarily because of their.

1420
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: OFFENSE a couple Of bengals notes Before Richard skinner joins

1421
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: Us Joe flacco not throwing, today which was kind of

1422
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: the plan a couple of weeks, ago and then he

1423
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: threw On, thursday played in the game On. Sunday The

1424
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: Joe flacco story should be right now out the best

1425
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: in The National Football. League it should, be but it's

1426
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: not because The bengals aren't, winning and a quarterback can

1427
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: do a lot of cool things, statistically and it doesn't

1428
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: matter if his team doesn't, win even if his team

1429
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: not winning is not his.

1430
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: Fault he should be the best story in THE nfl right, now.

1431
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: Getting traded by The browns to The, bengals having a

1432
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: couple of days to prepare for his first, game almost

1433
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: instantly looking the, part helping them upset The, steelers helping

1434
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: them score eighty points over the course of their next two.

1435
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: Games he should be the best story in THE nfl right.

1436
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: Now my guess Is Joe burrow gives it a go

1437
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: On thanksgiving Against baltimore and if The bengals are five and,

1438
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: six it's gonna feel like game on. Anything shy of,

1439
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: that there's gonna be a good question about how much

1440
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: sense it makes to have him out. There WHAT i

1441
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: wonder is what happens If Joe flacco turns into a. Pumpkin,

1442
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 2: now turning into a pumpkin might not mean that he

1443
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: becomes a completely inep. Quarterback turning into a pumpkin means

1444
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: he's not as awesome as he has. Been we have

1445
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time over the last year and

1446
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: a half watching The bengals waste awesome individual game and

1447
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: season long. Performances it's kind of disfranchise as identity right,

1448
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 2: now right they waste great quarterback. Play six times Since

1449
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: week three of last, year The bengals have scored more

1450
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: than thirty points and. Lost that shouldn't happen to your

1451
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: team six times in a. Decade it's happened six times

1452
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: in a season and a.

1453
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 4: Half that's.

1454
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: Remarkable When Joe burrow is having great, games it's just

1455
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: it's the. Norm it's what he's supposed to. Do Joe

1456
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: flacco has had a great, career terrific. Career eighteen. Years

1457
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: Super BOWL mvp made a lot of. Money he played

1458
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: on a lot of different teams like, that dude has,

1459
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,480
Speaker 2: had especially for a guy coming From, delaware a terrific.

1460
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Career but it still feels like his play over the

1461
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks is not the.

1462
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: Rule it's the, exception as awesome as it has, been

1463
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: even if you acknowledge that he's got the easy runway

1464
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: of having guys Like chas And higgins to throw, to.

1465
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: Feels like the.

1466
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: Exception what happens if the exception is not the rule On?

1467
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: Sunday what happens over the next couple of? Weeks and

1468
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: LIKE i asked this, RHETORICALLY i don't think there's an.

1469
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: Answer the answer should, Be, Well Al golden's unit steps, Up.

1470
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

1471
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: Guess and If i'm wrong about, this, MAN i am

1472
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: wrong about. This it's really hard to score eighty points

1473
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 2: over two. Games it's hard to average. Forty bengals offense

1474
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: might may play really well Against New, england probably not

1475
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 2: gonna score.

1476
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: Forty what happens if they don't score forty On?

1477
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: Sunday you, Know Zach taylor said he thinks this is

1478
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: a championship caliber defense like, that that's a thing that

1479
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: he talked about after the bye or during the bye,

1480
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: WEEK i should, Say, okay that better happened, Now like

1481
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 2: you've shown faith in the, Coordinator you've shown faith in

1482
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: the guys on. Defense no changes were. Made that means

1483
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: your faith gets rewarded, now not Once burrow comes, back

1484
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: not In. December so like that's the storyline of the

1485
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: game to. Me can The bengals put themselves in a

1486
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: position Where Joe burrow is getting closer and it? Matters

1487
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: and if the answer is, yes at some point it's

1488
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to come because the defense did something.

1489
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: Good where can you count on this defense to do something?

1490
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: Good and the arrow is pointing at the key decision

1491
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 2: makers because with the benefit of a season's worth of

1492
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: evidence to suggest that maybe they're not where they need to,

1493
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: be defensive coaching staff or any number of these, players

1494
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: they maintain the status. Quo does maintaining the status quo

1495
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: have a short term? Payoff if it, doesn't On, sunday

1496
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: they're going to lose it does then maybe game on

1497
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: sixteen minutes after five, O'clock Richard skinner.

1498
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 8: Next queenati brought to you an Buy, Postman law And

1499
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 8: Vice Skyline chile ON espn fifteen Thirty The Cincinnati he's With.

1500
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: Local twelve And local twelve dot.

1501
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: Com he joins us On. Wednesdays bengals play The. Steelers On,

1502
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: Sunday skinny is. Here how's it?

1503
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: Going it's?

1504
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 4: GOING i Mean monday was the THING a couple of

1505
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 4: us on the, BEAT i think believe when we were

1506
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 4: asked to come down there a little bit early that

1507
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 4: one o'clock from moved Up Zach killer press conference if

1508
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 4: someone was getting, fired and boy were we, wrong and

1509
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 4: and and the news that we did get should have

1510
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 4: been met with more than the shoulder shrug THAT i gave. It, Like,

1511
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 4: OKAY i, mean you, KNOW I Joe burrows great and,

1512
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 4: all but uh and. Bust somehow this defense gets? Better

1513
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 4: does it?

1514
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 11: Does is?

1515
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 4: It is it gonna matter record? Wise and does it

1516
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 4: matter at? All?

1517
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah and that's that's not your fault for shrugging your.

1518
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: Shoulders it's not my fault for shrugging my. Shoulders it's

1519
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 2: the fault of this. Defense, yes, no no.

1520
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 4: DOUBT i mean that's the. Thing so here in the second,

1521
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: year second half or after the after the bye, week

1522
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 4: what's changing for the. Better it's actually kind of, changing

1523
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 4: maybe for the. Worse If Trey henderson doesn't, Play he's

1524
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 4: already been announced as doubtful By Zach, taylor which what

1525
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 4: means he's not going to. Play so can the rookie

1526
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 4: linebackers take a step?

1527
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Forward?

1528
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah? Maybe Can Miles murphy show a?

1529
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: Pulse?

1530
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 4: Okay maybe Can Gino stone And jordan battle? Tackle? Okay?

1531
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: Maybe Can I'll golden find a magic elixistematically for his

1532
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 4: island have missed the? Toys? Okay? Maybe, boy that's a

1533
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: lot to hope for Man and as we always, know

1534
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 4: hope is hope is is not a. Plan so, Again

1535
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 4: i'm all For Joe burrow coming. BACK i just hope

1536
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 4: he's not coming back quarterbacking the three and eight or

1537
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 4: if he comes back to The buffalo game a three

1538
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 4: and nine team and playing at the string in a losing.

1539
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 4: Season at that, point all the thrill of that wears

1540
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 4: off because guess, what that lingering issue of this defense

1541
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: being awful lingers into the, offseason and AS i think

1542
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 4: we all, know this is not a one off season Sixty.

1543
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: At that, point should he even?

1544
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 4: PLAY i say, Yes it's what he does for a.

1545
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 4: Living if he's fully and Again i'll give you a CAVEAT.

1546
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 4: MO i he's got to be fully, healthy not LIKE

1547
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 4: i feel, OKAY i feel, GOOD i feel LIKE i

1548
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 4: can play through. This, no you feel one hundred percent

1549
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 4: fine and you go out there and. PLAY I i

1550
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 4: guarantee you if when he if and when he does,

1551
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 4: that AND i do think he does that at some,

1552
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 4: point whether it's The buffalo game or you, know he's

1553
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 4: targeting That thursday Night thanksgiving. GAME i think for him

1554
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 4: it's just he's just so darn. Competitive he wants to,

1555
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 4: play but you gotta and if there's no, game, TAM i,

1556
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: mean the guy can tell YOU i feel, great and

1557
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 4: he shows himself. Great he's not limped around because he's

1558
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 4: grit in his. Teeth you, know hopefully doctors can figure

1559
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 4: out if he's one hundred percent and he can be.

1560
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: HONEST i think he needs to be honest. Here i'm

1561
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 4: one hundred, percent, Man i'm good to. GO i don't

1562
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 4: think he was ever honest with the cast, situation and

1563
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 4: it lingered for a, while and so just be honest.

1564
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 4: Here if you're not good to go and it's a lost,

1565
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: season you don't need to push. It. Man we'll pick

1566
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 4: this into the offseason and get you a hundred percent

1567
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: by next. Year but if he feels one hundred percent

1568
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 4: and he wants to put four or five games more

1569
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 4: under his, belt more power to. HIM i don't think

1570
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 4: anybody should blame him for.

1571
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 12: That would they use any of that time to change

1572
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 12: how they play? Offensively that's a good question, too because

1573
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 12: it you, know we talked about this When Jake browning

1574
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 12: came in in twenty twenty three and went under center,

1575
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 12: more and they did some more play action stuff and

1576
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 12: some more bootleg, stuff and they ran the ball better

1577
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 12: and all those.

1578
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 4: THINGS i sure. Hope so you, KNOW i know what he.

1579
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 4: LOVES i get that you want to cater to what he.

1580
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 4: LOVES i, mean cater to what he. Loves got you

1581
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 4: almost five thousand yards passing in forty three twenty the last,

1582
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 4: Year so that was. Great and the offense isn't the.

1583
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 4: Issue AND i think that's the. Thing the offense isn't the.

1584
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 4: Issue it hasn't been the. Issue can it be an

1585
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 4: issue in a single game? Occasionally? Sure Can Can joe

1586
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 4: being in the shot dollar time mean it be a problem? Occasionally?

1587
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 4: Sure but when you're putting up those kind of, numbers

1588
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 4: and you know you score thirty three points or more

1589
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 4: and lose four games last. Year it's the defense, man

1590
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 4: that's What that's what. IS i JUST i wrote that.

1591
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 4: Today this is all. About this isn't about any other

1592
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 4: than what does this defense show us this? Week what

1593
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 4: does it show us that it does? Better does it tackle?

1594
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 4: Better does it rush the passer? Better does it have

1595
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: to run? Better and by, BETTER i, Mean i'm not

1596
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 4: talking about holding The steelers to ten. Points by, Better

1597
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 4: i'm just talking about keeping you in the game for goodness,

1598
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: sakes and the offense not having to go out and

1599
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 4: put up thirty five points and forty points to. Win

1600
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: because that's as Great Asyo flaco was. Playing that's just

1601
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 4: not sustainable for any. Team, again we saw. This you're

1602
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 4: With Joe burrow playing.

1603
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: Quarterback is it time to refer To Shamar stewart's rookie

1604
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: season as a?

1605
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 4: Wash? YEAH i thought you were gonna use the word,

1606
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 4: bust AND i hate to do that, early So i'm

1607
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 4: glad you. DIDN'T i think a wash is a good

1608
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: word for. THAT i don't think he's gonna play this,

1609
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 4: week and who knows how long that's gonna. BE i

1610
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 4: Mean zach said today it's it's a week to week.

1611
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 4: Thing but he's played in five games and in five

1612
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 4: games he has six, tackles two of them. Solo good for.

1613
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 4: Him he got two solo stops in five, games no quarterback,

1614
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 4: sacks and one quarterback. Hit wash is a good. WORD

1615
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 4: i just hope that we're not talking about him in

1616
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 4: terms Of Miles murphy as next Season lingers and then

1617
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: the season after, that and we want to give it

1618
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 4: one more old good college. TRY i just hope we're not.

1619
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 4: There BUT i, mean, again this was this is the

1620
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 4: fear for everybody of freak on tape can be freakish at,

1621
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 4: times and things he does but just doesn't. PRODUCE i,

1622
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 4: mean why would you go against what he did in

1623
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 4: college and, go, yeah but he he's got these. Traits,

1624
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 4: okay that's all well and. GOOD i love the traits.

1625
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 4: TOO i love the traits in the third and he

1626
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 4: had a first round, grade SO i shouldn't ding him for.

1627
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 4: That he did have a first round grade from a

1628
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 4: lot of. People but at what point you, go, well

1629
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 4: he had a sack Against Bowling, green in a sack

1630
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 4: Against Arkansas state or whoever it. Was, boy he's gonna sack,

1631
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 4: college or if he's gonna SACK nfl, quarterbacks you ain't

1632
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 4: getting home in THE. Sec and it's hard to get

1633
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 4: home in THE, sec, RIGHT i mean THE nfl dudes

1634
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 4: all over the. Place what makes you think you're getting

1635
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 4: home in? COLLEGE i, mean excuse me in the.

1636
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 2: Pros, so you, know we talk a lot about the

1637
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: fact That Duke tobin hasn't everybody cross and everybody's cross,

1638
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: hairs and folks want to see.

1639
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT i thought he was the.

1640
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 4: One O'CLOCK i thought he was the one o'clock. CALL i,

1641
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 4: really you, did my witness. MOW i thought he was

1642
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 4: the one o'clock.

1643
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: Call you thought when when he got the call to

1644
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: come down there that The bengals had an, announcement you

1645
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 2: thought it was going to Be Duke tobin gentt.

1646
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 4: Let, GO i.

1647
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Did does that mean that you believe that is on

1648
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: the table when the season?

1649
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 4: ENDS i it MEANS i think it should. BE i

1650
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 4: THINK i Know i've written the piece that's kind of

1651
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 4: called through his head and pointing the finger blame it himy.

1652
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 4: NIGHT i get. You you can people on the flip

1653
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 4: side can, argue you, know he built some pretty good

1654
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 4: rosters in, in you, know under the Mar in The

1655
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 4: Marvin lewis. ERA i Think marvin had a little more

1656
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 4: say so Than zach did when it came to to

1657
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 4: draft and personnel and those, things AND i think he

1658
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 4: wrestled some of that away When zach became the head.

1659
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 4: Coach and in, fact we had a coach told us

1660
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 4: a couple and this wasn't off the, record this is

1661
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 4: on the record that you, know we asked where does

1662
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 4: the buck stop when it? Comes he, goes, well the

1663
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 4: buck stops At Duke, okay that's that's that's where the buck.

1664
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 4: Stops we're gonna go with. That the buck stops At Duke.

1665
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 4: Tobin so at what point do you, say, yeah, man

1666
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 4: we got to really fix this, defense and we're gonna

1667
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 4: let you be the guy to try to fix. It,

1668
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 4: no you've done all these recent, drafts had been with

1669
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 4: the knowledge that you're superstars and you knew who they,

1670
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 4: Were tea And jamar And. Joe and then you Signed

1671
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 4: Orlando brown for a nice piece of change because you

1672
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: didn't have a left Tackling i'm fine with. That you

1673
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 4: went to the free age, murder got probably the best

1674
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 4: guy available at the, time and you're paying him. Accordingly

1675
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 4: you started drafting on the other side of the, ball

1676
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: KNOWING i have guys on rookie contracts before, me and

1677
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 4: none of them are for the most, part other THAN

1678
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 4: dj turnering to a degree back till none of, them

1679
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 4: or in, fact in some, cases they're an unmitigated. Disaster

1680
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 4: i'm not a HUGE pff. Guy it has its, place,

1681
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 4: Right But Demetrius, knight WHEN i wrote a piece last,

1682
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 4: week was ranked eightyeth eighty two linebackers in the league FROM,

1683
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 4: pff And Brett carter was rank eighty. Two you, know

1684
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 4: and your eyeballs kind of see, that, right, like, yeah

1685
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 4: they're they're. Struggling and Again i'm gonna give them benefit of.

1686
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 4: Doubt two rookies playing side by. Side that shouldn't. Happen,

1687
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 4: honestly that shouldn't. Happen it did by, default and here we.

1688
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 4: Are they have to play through. Mistakes now. Again that's

1689
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 4: the one that's my one grown hope is, That, okay

1690
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 4: these guys have seen a bunch of. Things they had

1691
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 4: a week to. Decompress where it's not prep, prep prep.

1692
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 4: Prepp let's go, again prep, prep, Prepp let's go. Again

1693
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 4: so week to maybe even look at their own stuff and, go,

1694
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: Man i'm a. MESS dupd this and this and. This

1695
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 4: i'm capable of fix. It that's my one small hope

1696
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 4: On defense is those two guys finally start to get, it,

1697
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: because LIKE i, said i'd like to See jordan haadling ginostone.

1698
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 4: Tackle i've got two seasons worse of evidence to shows

1699
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 4: they just are not going to do. It it just doesn't. Happen.

1700
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 4: Correct so you, Know i've seen this pass rush look

1701
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 4: like literally velcro where they rush and they get stuck on,

1702
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 4: dudes and it's not like a series here and a

1703
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: down there and a series there and a series. Here

1704
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 4: they just get. Stuck and, oh by the, way they're

1705
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 4: after best pass rusher this week in all? Likelihood so

1706
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 4: what makes me think that's going to be? BETTER i

1707
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 4: hope it. IS i, mean don't get me, WRONG i

1708
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 4: know you hope it. Is BUT i think we've got

1709
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 4: a pretty good level of, evidence not over nine, games

1710
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 4: but over two seasons worth that it's a lot of personnel.

1711
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 3: Issues.

1712
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: Correct so WHAT i was going to ask is you

1713
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 2: mentioned looking At Shamar, stewart not seeing any production but

1714
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: taking him because you love the. Measurables If Duke tobin

1715
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: is still running things this, offseason could you see a

1716
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: philosophical shift where they want to emphasize a little bit

1717
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 2: more of what a guy actually does when he's on.

1718
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: TAPE i, sure.

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Speaker 4: Hope, SO i, MEAN i think you're starting to get

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Speaker 4: mounty evidence that traits don't don't really win a lot

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Speaker 4: of times here that, yeah you gotta have. TRY i,

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01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 4: mean just because you had sixteen sacks At army per

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Speaker 4: se as a six to two hundred and forty five pound,

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01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 4: end doesn't MEAN i need to take you as a

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01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,519
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01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 4: was a kid a couple of years ago that everybody

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01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 4: fell in love with and he was a great story

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01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 4: and he had a bunch of sacks At, army but

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01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 4: it's like too, small. MAN i get what he's, done

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Speaker 4: but he's just too.

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Speaker 5: Small that the flip side of that, is though.

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Speaker 4: You know the pace kids from you, SEE i, mean

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Speaker 4: he was a, munster productive player in college and then

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01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 4: all of a, sudden every day, Ever i'm, like, yeah

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Speaker 4: but he doesn't have any measurables.

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 5: Whatsoever and in some cases that's.

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Speaker 4: FINE i brought a blank on the linebacker From miami

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01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 4: many years, ago was a tackling, machine was like five foot.

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Speaker 1: Eleven BUT i MEAN i should remember the.

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Speaker 4: NAME i just. Don't and sometimes the measurables you outplay the,

1741
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 4: measurables and those are the Guys i'd rather risk taking

1742
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 4: on the guys that outplay the measurables and the guys

1743
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 4: that have the measurables and don't play to that. Level

1744
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 4: what makes you think they're gonna do at a level.

1745
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 4: Higher it's a great.

1746
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: QUESTION i don't have the, answer but thank you as.

1747
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Speaker 6: All.

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Speaker 4: Man, hey by the, way you see turn you see

1749
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Speaker 4: to turn the ball over?

1750
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Speaker 1: Again oh, thanks that's uh, yeah that's one and twenty

1751
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Speaker 1: con since last.

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Speaker 4: Night, Yeah i's. Yeah, No, hey, listen you win turn

1753
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 4: the ball over twenty four times by by a dozen.

1754
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 4: Points good for, You good for.

1755
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Speaker 2: You that's, right, skinny thanks so. Much you bet think

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Speaker 4: COM.

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Speaker 2: Uh bengals injury, report the first one for the week is.

1763
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,520
Speaker 2: Out Joe burrow is on, it limited in his, participation

1764
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 2: which is of no surprise to. Anybody you may have.

1765
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 2: Heard joe is coming off a toe. Injury Joe flacco

1766
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: did not go. Today Trey hendrickson did not go. Today

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Speaker 2: samaj Pen ryan no surprise, here did not go.

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Speaker 1: TODAY. Uh they're still calling schre Or.

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Speaker 2: Stewart week to. Week the official injury report has him

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Speaker 2: ON it no practice. Designation bengals And Steelers sunday at.

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Speaker 2: One bengals game plan tonight at six ON espn fifteen,

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Speaker 2: thirty the Game sunday ON espn fifteen thirty as. Well

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Speaker 2: Nick crawl at THE Mlb General managers meetings In Las vegas,

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Speaker 2: says Trading hunter green quote not on the table.

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Speaker 1: Good it shouldn't.

1776
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 2: Be cost control staff faces And hunter may have fallen

1777
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: out of disfavor with you because of how he pitched

1778
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 2: in the. Postseason then to a, degree that's. Fine that's

1779
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: the next two steps he has to. Make Or number,

1780
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 2: one get through a full season. Healthy number two pitch

1781
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 2: better in big. Games now he pitched well in a

1782
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: lot of games down the. Stretch pitch very well game

1783
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Speaker 2: against The, cobs game against The, Mats but on his

1784
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Speaker 2: next shot on the postseason, stage which.

1785
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Speaker 1: We all hope he, gets is gonna have to pitch.

1786
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Speaker 2: Better college basketball, TONIGHT nku is on the road Against

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Speaker 2: East Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: State that game is gonna tip off at seven.

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Speaker 2: Pm you could listen to it with pregame coverage beginning

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Speaker 2: at six thirty On Fox sports thirteen to. Sixty also,

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Speaker 2: Tonight indiana takes On Milwaukee college. Football, tonight it's The

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Speaker 2: cradle Of coaches game for The Miami RedHawks AS mu

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Speaker 2: takes On. Toledo that game starts at seven. O'clock Red

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati cyclones today by a score of three to two

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Speaker 2: man there's how they, played and there's what they. Did

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Speaker 2: how they played wasn't. Great the fact that they. Won

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Speaker 2: i'm talking ABOUT u see here at the end of the.

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Speaker 2: Day if that's all that matters to, you that's one

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Speaker 2: thing at the end of the day for a lot

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Speaker 2: of folks about how they. Played the turnovers were way too.

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Speaker 2: Many that's going to have to be better Against louisville next.

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Speaker 2: Week Chad brendle joins us on the show. Tomorrow we

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Speaker 2: The bearcat football team with a massive game Against.

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