WEBVTT - Off Season Dodger Talk (2-3-26) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.280 This is off season Dodger Talk. 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.600 Get in on the show by calling eight six six 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:10.600 eight seven hashtag Dodger Talk and now your host, David Basse. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.960 Welcome to Dodger Talk, one of two shows we have 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:19.000 for you this week. David Vase with you until eight 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.640 o'clock tonight here on AM five to seventy LA Sports. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.079 Our next show is going to be Thursday night at 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.680 seven o'clock. Miguel Rojas and Max Munsey are going to 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.320 join us on Thursday night tonight. We've got a great 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.240 show for you because I feel like people are ignoring 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.360 the fact that in Major League Baseball games this year 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:46.879 there is going to be a significant rule addition technology wise, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:52.080 as the automated strike zone is coming to Major League 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:57.520 Baseball games, not just spring training games, but actual major 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:03.200 league games. It is being implemented where a batter, the catcher, 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.360 or the pitcher can challenge balls and strikes twice. You 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:12.480 got two challenges for nine innings, and from my understanding, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:16.440 if it goes extras, you'll be given one extra challenge. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.240 So if you challenge a pitch and you're wrong, you 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.119 lose that challenge. There is no going back, and that's 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:29.080 happening this year, and I have some questions, so I 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.959 thought i'd bring in our resident umpire who has been 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.800 on the show a few times, and that is thirty 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:40.399 year Major League veteran umpire Brian Gorman, who lives in 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:45.800 the Knejo Valley and also is a Major League Baseball observer. Basically, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.560 he's watching the umpires the games and kind of just 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.880 gathering information on how umpires do individually as a crew. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.880 He's out at Dodger Stadium virtually every home game, so 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.480 I've gotten to know Brian Gorman, who actually was the 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.120 home played umpire the day that Sean Green had his 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.760 four home run nineteen total base record setting day back 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.000 in two thousand and one. So Brian Gorman is going 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.360 to educate us and maybe clarify some of the questions 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.799 I have about this automated strike zone that's coming to 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.359 Major League Baseball. Brian Gorman is going to join us 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.280 at seven point thirty. We have phone lines open at 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.639 eight six, six, nine, eighty seven, two five seventy. Did 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:36.079 you even know this was coming into play? And basically 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.400 it's trying to generate more offense where the edges of 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.400 the strike zone may be eliminated to try to force 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.120 pitchers to come more into the strike zone and not 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.600 risk getting a fifty to fifty call going against them. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.600 Did you even know the automated strike zone is coming 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.080 into play in twenty twenty six major league games? I 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.120 feel like many of you were not aware of this, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.080 and that's why I wanted to shine a spotlight on 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.440 it tonight, especially with Major League umpire Brian Gorman at 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.640 seven point thirty. And did you see it in spring training? 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.320 Did you like it in spring training? Major League Baseball 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.480 in the Commissioner's office is telling us that you wanted this, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.360 You gave good reviews to this in spring training last year. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:31.320 And my biggest question is David vasse strike zones a 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.840 lot different than Ronnie Fossio's strike zone. And if you 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:40.520 remember watching Ricky Henderson, he was whatever height he was, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.760 but when he got into the batter's box, he was 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.800 dramatically bent over at the waist, so his height was 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.240 a lot different in the batter's box than it was 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.680 standing straight up in left field. Have they accounted for that? 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:01.520 We'll ask Brian Gorman eight six six two five seventy 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.000 is the phone number coming up in fifteen minutes. I'll 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.080 let you know about a former fan favorite that is 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.360 back on the open market that could find his way 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.120 back to the Dodgers. But I wanted to tell you 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.479 about my day. You may have heard Petros and Money 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.240 mock me for speaking to a fraternity, but you know, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:27.080 I have preconceived notions about frat guys and they're usually accurate. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.919 Look at Matt money Smith frat guy, Bullseye one hundred 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.840 percent frat guy. I'm sure you're not shocked knowing that. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.320 But anyway, I talked to a group of very nice 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:42.720 fraternity men. The Sigma Chi Alumni Los Angeles chapter today 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.599 held a small gathering for Joe Davis, who was part 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.880 of that fraternity at his college in Wisconsin, a very 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.760 small college. And I love how he said it because 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.000 he kind of tore down the walls as why he 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.080 joined this fraternity because he did play football there and 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.640 it was kind of a fraternity for athletes at this college. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.839 But anyway, the story goes back a year ago where 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.360 I was contacted by a member of the Sigma Ui 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.279 Los Angeles chapter that wanted to honor Joe with this 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.719 honor of being a significant sig and I guess to 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.960 be able to get that honor, somebody has to write 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.320 a letter to vouch for the person's character. And I've 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.680 known Joe Davis since the first day he started with 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:37.279 the Dodgers and have never wavered in liking him. I 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.120 like Joe Davis personally, and also he's pretty good at 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.000 what he does, right. I like him and I respect 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.200 him because he's always prepared. He puts in the work, 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:53.760 and he's the best baseball broadcaster right now in America, 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.760 arguably top five. We all have our biases, but I 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.680 would put him in the top five. How about that, 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.120 We'll agree. But for a guy that took over for 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:08.560 the legend, not just a legend, but the legend. Not 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.280 too many people succeed as much as Joe Davis has succeeded, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.719 and a lot of that has to go to his characters. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.640 So I was more than happy to speak on his behalf, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.800 write that letter on his behalf. And it was a 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:26.000 good group of guys. And Patrick Muldoon, legendary actor, Daytime Star, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:31.200 also Saturday Morning Cameo Star. He did play Jeff at 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.280 the Attic who stole Kelly Kapowski away from Zach Morris. Ronnie, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.880 this is legit stuff. If you want to see my 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.840 picture with Muldoon, who is an LA native, grew up 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:47.480 in sam Pedro, knows the Papadakus as well, loves the Dodgers, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.000 is going to join us on Dodger Talk next week. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.920 You can find our photo with Muldoon at officially vass 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.800 on Instagram. But nonetheless, there was a Q and a 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:03.359 session after Joe made his small, short speech, which we 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.719 all appreciated. And a guy that has accomplished as much 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.520 as he has and is in the middle of his 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.640 career doesn't need to go on with a speech speech speech. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.880 Only guys that have not accomplished a lot need to 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.960 remind us how much they've done. But nonetheless, there was 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.560 a Q and a session after, And I don't know 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.280 it sparked something inside of me because multiple people at 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:28.280 that luncheon were asking him how does it feel to 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.680 fill the shoes of Vin Scully? And I don't know 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.800 that just rubbed me the wrong way because it's not 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.600 like it's his first year. I think this is his 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.840 tenth eleventh year doing this since then retired. And my 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.800 thing is, and I think we all have to come 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:50.480 to that conclusion, nobody is ever going to be Vin Scully. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.240 Once you come to that realization, I truly believe you'll 0:07:55.240 --> 0:08:00.840 appreciate Joe Davis as much as you should. And at 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.000 that luncheon, I said, you know what, it's at the 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:08.360 point now that when Joe Davis isn't calling games, we're saying, 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.320 is that person good enough to fill his chair? When 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.560 Joe Davis is not calling a Dodger, Fox eleven or 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:21.040 Fox Sports game, that guy has to fill Joe Davis's chair. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.440 And I just wanted to share with you some of 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.440 the moments that Joe Davis has called in the last 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.200 three years. And the final call is not even a 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.040 Dodger call. It's one of my favorite Joe Davis's call 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:38.000 from the twenty twenty three NLCS Bryce Harper's humongous home run. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:42.080 So just to remind you how good Joe is, here's 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.480 a reminder. Here's the O two pitch bounces coming up. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:54.160 Stabat that chap you dona come out? The Dodgers stand 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.720 tall head when called du back, titles. 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:03.920 Taylor the Tyne run or says deliveries prevent hits about. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:15.040 Right field, sees gun jibby mate junny Game one of 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:31.199 the World Series, drilled on the field in deep held 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:37.400 con no way the girl Rojas. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.880 Dave Roberts playst gun the guy haven't had a head 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:50.520 in a month. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.360 Hit of the ninth thirty of Game seven, he said, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:56.600 a tiny home run. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.000 I'm a seven pitch Shepherd gets some of. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.760 Their little seventh fail doctors save. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.719 Those are just a few of the highlights of the 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.160 big calls Joe Davis has had on a national stage 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.360 in the last three years, and thankfully a lot of 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:34.920 them are Dodger calls. But that Phillies, Diamondbacks NLCS, Joe 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.920 Davis made me want to watch it. And that call 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.840 that Bryce Harper home run to me, when you say 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.920 Joe Davis is probably the second or first call that 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.559 comes to mind, right after his call of Freddie Freeman's 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.800 walk off Grand Slam in Game one of the twenty 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.000 four World Series. So my point is, and this got 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.160 stirred up around the parade time and World Series. Look, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.000 when Joe calls a die and them being in the 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.079 World Series and everybody having a lot of jealousy and 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.040 envy of the Dodgers, He's going to take the brunt 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.040 of it. He's never going to win, and Joe buck 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.880 faced the same thing. One team's fan base believes that 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.360 he's a homer for the other and vice versa, and 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:23.240 that just comes with the job. But I love Vin Scully. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.600 I will keep Vin Scully's calls alive on Dodger Talk 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.719 as long as I'm doing it, no matter what day 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.319 of the week it is. But once you come to 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.920 the realization that there is never going to be another 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.000 Vin Scully and you can enjoy his calls all you want. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.400 Joe is one of, if not the best, of the 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:48.560 current broadcasters in baseball right now. And don't let Mad 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.559 Dog Russo know that he was at FanFest hugging it 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.319 up with other players. But my point to all that 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.800 him hosting the parade maybe a little too soon for 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.000 everybody else. The World Series was over, he wasn't calling 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:06.240 it anymore. He went back to being the Dodger broadcaster, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.000 and in fact, he was the Fox Sports broadcaster before 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.400 he was the Dodger broadcaster. So I just wanted to 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.719 set the record straight on all that. I never talk 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.960 about Joe but today you know that was my experience 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.760 in life, So just wanted to bring that up and 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:27.040 as we Vin Scully generation fans would try to replicate 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.640 his calls. Now kids ten eleven years old are doing 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.120 the same thing, but it's Joe Davis's calls that they're 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:39.080 replicating and trying to emulate. So just keep that perspective. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.400 And in my mind, since Chick Hern and Vin Scully retired, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.719 there's only two guys that have come close to you know, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.640 I don't want to say filling their shows, but I'll 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.360 just say this period, the two best Laker and Dodger 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:58.320 broadcasters since Chick and Vin retire, respectively, have been Spirodidis 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:03.880 and Joe Davis. Period. My apologies if I offend anybody else, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.280 but that's that's facts, and that's the reason why the 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.800 Sigma Chi Los Angeles chapter Jim Lawson asked me to 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.959 write that letter. If I didn't like Joe Davis or 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.440 didn't respect him, or didn't think he was a good guy, hey, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.080 I wouldn't have showed up today, and first and foremost, 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.439 I wouldn't have even give I would have ignored that 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.120 message that was sent to me via social media. So 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.920 that's the record, and hopefully you appreciate all our guys. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.000 Tim Neverritt Stephen Nelson, Joe Davis, Rick Monday, who is 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.520 the longest active tenured Dodger broadcaster. Rick Monday's been in 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:45.000 the booth since nineteen ninety three. And this upcoming season 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.880 is going to be the fiftieth anniversary that Rick Monday 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.280 saved the American flag at Dodger Stadium. That's going to 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.240 be celebrated. So be ready and we will all celebrate 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.400 with Rick Monday. Eight six six, nine eighty seven two 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.160 five seventy is the phone number when we continue on 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.400 Dodger Talk your phone calls, and also I'll let you 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:09.400 know which former Dodger is available. Will the Dodgers bring 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.319 him home? We'll find out next right here on a 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.960 five to seventy LA Sports. Coming up in fifteen minutes, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.880 you'll hear from former Major League umpire now MLB observer 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.800 quote observer Brian Gorman, who in some ways works with 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.280 Major League Baseball and he knows all the rules, He's 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.200 briefed on all the rules and certainly had command or 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.040 he would not have lasted for thirty years. So Brian 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.640 Gorman is going to come up at seven thirty tonight, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.800 and our next show is on Thursday night at seven o'clock, 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.320 Miguel Rojas and Max Munsey are going to join us. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.160 Had a chance to catch up with them at Dodger Fest, 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.480 so we'll share that conversation on Thursday night. And in 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.200 case you missed any of our show, our three hour 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.840 bonanza at Dodger Fest this past Saturday, you can find 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.480 all three hours on the iHeartRadio app. Just find it 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.880 under Dodger Talk. You should make Dodger Talk a preset 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.400 and you can listen to us live every single game 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.880 on the iHeartRadio app and Dodger Talk and AM five 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:22.240 seventy LA Sports on the iHeartRadio app show Heo Tani, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:27.080 Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, Roki Sasaki, they all joined us, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.040 and Dave Roberts also joined us. And some of the 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:35.840 takeaways from Saturday, as far as newsworthy takeaways, was Freddy 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.640 Freeman's not doing the Worm anymore. And he said publicly 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.200 on the stage, not with us, but basically said what 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.120 he has told me privately last year that he wants 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.640 to play until forty and he wants to see how 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.160 close he can get to three thousand hits. I mean, 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.400 that's an important number for a guy that is considered 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.640 one of the best hitters of our generation and certainly 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.560 has Hall of Fame career and all over it. He 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.080 has two more years left on his deal, including this 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.000 upcoming season. I would love to see the Dodgers just 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:13.920 extend Freddy Freeman. I know the CBA is expiring at 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.720 the end of this year, but once that's all settled, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.840 I don't want Freddy Freeman going into twenty twenty seven 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.400 as a lame duck player. Extend that guy make he 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:28.040 is a legacy player. I understand right now may not 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.800 be the right time, but going into twenty twenty seven, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.480 when it's all settled and the dust is settled after 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:40.240 whatever happens when the CBA expires, Freddy Freeman should end 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.880 his career with the Dodgers. I know everybody's starting to think, oh, 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.640 it'd be great if he ended in Atlanta. Yeah, maybe 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.240 if you're a Braves fan, But if you're a Dodger fan, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.120 it would be great if Freddy Freeman ended his career 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.400 with the Dodgers. Because I hate to break this to 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:59.920 all the Braves fan Braves fandom out there, Freddie Freeman's 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:06.520 two most signature moments in his career are with the Dodgers. Sorry. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.359 I know he won a World Series championship with the 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.879 Braves and hit a big home run against the Astros, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.120 But nothing's bigger than hitting the only walk off Grand 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.600 Slam in a World Series game against the Yankees with 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.800 the Dodgers, and then hitting a walk off home run 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:29.639 in an eighteen inning affair in last year's Game three. Sorry. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.280 If you're a Braves fan and Freddie Freeman ends his 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.600 career the next four years as a Dodger, there's a 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.680 real argument to be made that Freddie Freeman should go 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:46.000 into Cooperstown with LA on his hat, not an A 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.640 but a Dodgers cap on his hat if he finishes 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:55.200 his career with the Dodgers. Now, don't get me started again. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:59.160 We already set our piece on Carlos Beltran. The cheater 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.000 may can get into the Hall of Fame. I guess 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:07.080 cheaters are accepted now in Cooperstown. Whether you say Barry 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.600 Bonds cheated, well so did Carlos Beltran, and Carlos Beltran 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.360 was proven to cheat. He's going in with a Mets cap, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.040 Jeff Kent's going in with the Mets Giants cap, and 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:19.880 whoever else? 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:20.080 Who? 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.680 Who else? Oh, Andrew Jones, who in my opinion, is 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.840 a marginal Hall of Famer going in with the Braves cap. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.840 If defenses mean so much in center field, then Jim 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.160 Edmonds should be a Hall of Famer. How is Andrew 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.480 Jones and Carlos Beltran in the Hall of Fame? But 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:41.600 Steve Garvey's not and Morey Wills is not. Somebody has 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.680 to explain that to me. One day, eight six six nine, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.680 eight seven, two five seventy is the phone number. Let's 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.080 go out to Long Beach. David, You're on Dodger Talk. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:54.960 How you doing good, David? How are you great day today? David? 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:55.760 Start to finish. 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.760 Oh yeah, well, you know, even though it's the off season, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.119 I appreciate you doing, you know, taking the time of 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.879 doing this program. But I did want to comment on 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.400 something you said about Vin Scully, you know, and Chick Hearn. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.320 I totally agree with you. They'll never be another Vinscully. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.919 They'll never be another Chick hern. And the good thing 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.760 about them is whether the Dodgers were playing a bad 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.720 game or if the Lakers were playing a bad game, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.280 they weren't afraid to call it as they saw, you know, 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.760 and that's what made the game so enjoyable because they 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.240 call it as they saw. They don't try to sugarcoat anything. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.000 You know, they keep it real one hundred percent. But 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.640 you know what they I agree with you. They weren't homers, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.040 but you knew that they had the Lakers and Dodgers 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.920 in their hearts. They never said we. Chick was a 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:44.480 little more homer Ish than Vin Scully ever was. But 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:45.760 that was Chick. 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:46.159 That was. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.840 Everything that Chick was was great. And I learned from them. 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:50.240 We all. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.720 I grew up listening to them, and that's why I'm 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.240 a big believer and never sing we, and I never 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.399 you know right now with the Dodgers. Have I ever 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.600 put on the U, have I ever thrown a pitch? 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.159 Have I ever tore up a knee? It's not we. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.119 If you're a broadcaster, it's the Dodgers. We all know 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:13.080 Dodgers and people associated with the Dodgers have a rooting 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:18.359 interest to a certain extent. But that's what Vin, Bob 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:22.600 Miller and Chick Hern had. But they never were overtly Homers, 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.760 and that's why we love them. And I think Joe 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.200 Davis is similar to that. 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.359 Totally agree with you, David thanks for the time, all. 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.680 Right, thank you. David, and Rick Monday and Charlie Steiner 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.520 are like that as well. I mean they've been a 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.080 staying power for what twenty five years now they've been together. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.320 That's why I wouldn't say they ever replaced Vin Scully. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.440 They were there when Vin Scully was broadcasting. They never 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.440 took over for Vin Scully except after the simulcast was 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.520 over the first three innings. Let's go out to Mike 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.760 in Hollywood. You're on Dodger Talk with David vasse Hi. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.080 Mike, he did great to talk to you. 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:03.800 Same listen. 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.160 You were just talking about Andrew Jones in the Hall 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.240 of Fame. I have been rankled for the last week. 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.879 We can have him stay announced this. I know what 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.760 he did his first twelve years of The Brave, and 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.920 he had some really great moments, but I at his 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.600 age thirty one season, I've just noticeded such a hall 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.119 a drop off from a Hall of Fame player as 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.880 what he did his here with the Dodgers. And maybe 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.240 it's sour grapes on my part, but it just kills 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.280 me to see that guy going to the Hall of Fame. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.440 It was so horrible to watch live and in person. 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.200 And I know you remember what I'm talking about. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.359 Yeah, I don't think one year should be held against 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.920 a player if they're Hall of Fame worthy. But I 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.040 just never thought Andrew Jones. See, I'm a small Hall 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.040 of Fame type of guy. I'm not a big Hall 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.120 of Fame guy. And Andrew Jones is in the big 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.879 Hall of Fame like Harold Baines and Bill Mazeroski and 0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:58.520 now Carlos Beltran, Scott Rolling, all those guys shouldn't be 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.280 in the Hall of Fame. I'm a small Hall of 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.960 Fame type of guy. Sorry. And they keep changing the rules, right, Mike, 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:07.320 they keep telling us peak six years. Really, when did 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.159 we start hearing about that? Oh, because you wanted to 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.240 change in the narrative. And if they put in Chase Uttley, 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.520 and I love Chase Uttley, great guy, really good player. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.040 But if they put Chase Uttley in the Hall of Fame, 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.320 then there's no reason no. Mar Garcia Paras shouldn't be 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.040 in the Hall of Fame either. Their numbers are similar, 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.120 except Chase Uttley was a lifetime two seventy seven hitter, 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.840 while Nomar won two batting titles and is a lifetime 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.639 three thirteen hitter. So now they're trying to push for 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.720 Chase Utley and changing the narrative for Chase Uttley. 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.680 What Dave and you know what, it took so long 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:45.639 for Jeff Kent to get in most home runs by 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.400 a second baseman. Now he's finally going to get his due. 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:50.520 It should have been in a long time ago. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.240 They keep yeah, they keep chasing. Oh it's this. Oh 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.679 it's his defense. Oh it's this, It's that they keep 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.600 changing the mirror. Just just make a call, you know. 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:07.240 I thought, yeah, I'm not going until Kershaw's inducted. But Mike, 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.200 I thought, Bob Costas said a great thing. We're getting 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.800 into a very dangerous area of voting for the Hall 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.280 of Fame because we're getting to the point, well, if 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.560 he's in, then why isn't he in? And when you 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.560 do that, then all of a sudden, you're starting to 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.400 lower the standard of players. And I think that's where 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.000 the voters have gotten to, letting some of these players in, 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:32.479 starting with Scott Roland. 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.399 Yeah, absolutely, that guy never feels like a Hall of 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.440 Famer to me. I nothing against him. Had a great career, 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.320 But can you tell the story of baseball without talking 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.120 about Scott Rowland. Of course you can't. 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.639 Yeah, just because I don't believe you're a Hall of 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.600 Famer doesn't mean you had a really, really good career. 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.399 People seem to get that twisted. Mike. I wish I 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.360 had something to get you. You're a reasonable caller, call 0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:58.320 back any time. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:00.520 I talk to you. 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:00.840 Day. 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.920 All right, Mike, thank you. Yeah. I feel like we're 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.560 getting into a big hall of fame. And what separated 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.200 the Baseball Hall of Fame from the Football Hall of 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.480 Fame and certainly the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame was 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.800 that there was a little bit of a higher standard 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.920 to be enshrined in Cooperstown. And now it's starting to 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.280 become like the Pro Football Hall of Fame and certainly 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.560 the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame. Nobody allows more people 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.760 in than the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame. So uh, yeah, 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.239 that's how I feel on it. And honestly, uh, if 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.280 you start allowing some of these players to get in, 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.960 you're taking the specialness away from the Hall of Fame 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:43.040