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Speaker 1: Hey, dummy, if you get free roses, it's a trap.

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Speaker 1: War of the Roses starts right now on John Jay

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Speaker 1: and Rich.

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Speaker 2: One oh four to seven Kiss FM, John Jay and

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Speaker 2: Rich It's time for War the Roses. But let you

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Speaker 2: know that Disneyland tickets are coming up. Keep listening. First, though,

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Speaker 2: War of the Roses, Let's say hello, Natalie, Natalie, good morning,

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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: What's your story?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm calling because I don't know, something just

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Speaker 3: like not officially divorced or anything, just separated and chose

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Speaker 3: But he's acting super strange and just like off, he's

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Speaker 3: really on edge. He's almost defensive and like weirdly emotional

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Speaker 3: And it honestly feels like it feels like he feels

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Speaker 3: So I need your help.

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Speaker 4: Do you think whatever happened, if something happened, is still

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's the weird thing, Like he acts

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Speaker 3: if he's just so guilty because he hasn't said anything.

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Speaker 3: It's really bizarre, like it's out of his usual character.

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Speaker 1: So you know him probably better than anybody else. So

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Speaker 1: if all those signs are making you feel a certain way.

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Speaker 5: And if he did, like let's say he did sleep

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Gosh, I mean yeah, Like if he did and

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you. Let's say that he

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Speaker 2: weird because I have such horrible guilt. But we were

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Speaker 2: you accept that apology if he apologizes to you and

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Speaker 2: work on your relationship or would you be like, that's cheating,

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Speaker 2: it's over because there is a big kind of a

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean it definitely will hurt, but I

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get him on the phone. See who sends

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Speaker 2: the flowers too. What's his name, Natalie, I'm Gavin. All right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna call it Gavin. We're gonna see who he

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Speaker 2: you got Natalie and Gavin, the husband and wife. They

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Speaker 2: took a three month break. And by the way, Natalie,

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Speaker 2: how long have you guys been married.

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Speaker 3: We've been marriage for six years?

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Speaker 2: Six years. You took a three month break after the

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Speaker 2: point of maybe something happened during that three months, right right?

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Speaker 2: What led you to take the three month break? What

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 3: We things had just gotten kind of distant between us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna call him right now. We're gonna off

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Speaker 2: from a dozen red roses. See if he says them

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Speaker 2: to you, Natalie, or to somebody else. Kylin, fuck, are

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Speaker 2: are you ready to read?

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Speaker 6: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Hi, there is Gavin available. Yeah, perfect, Hi Gavin. So

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Speaker 4: my name's Morgan. I'm with a new company. We're called

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Speaker 4: jan R Flowers. This is so cool. You've actually been

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Speaker 4: chosen to be a part of our social media campaign.

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Speaker 4: So for for you, this means you get to send

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Speaker 4: our most romantic bouquet of roses. It's our pure passion bouquet,

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Speaker 4: very very gorgeous, to anyone you want, totally free, and

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Speaker 4: all we ask in return is that you post about

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Speaker 4: so we get a little bit of marketing out of it,

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Speaker 4: and you get to surprise someone special in your life.

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Speaker 4: Totally free.

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Speaker 7: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's.

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Speaker 4: Actually like a word of mouth campaign that's been working

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Speaker 4: really well. Okay, right, perfect, so you'll be happy to hear.

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Speaker 4: I don't need any personal information from you, no credit

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Speaker 4: it is our most romantic bouquet, so you know, depending

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Speaker 4: on the nature of your relationship. Just let me know

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Speaker 7: Oh okay, sure, So do you want me to just

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Speaker 6: With the message.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be great.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I love you. I hope these make you smile

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Speaker 7: the same way you make me smile every day.

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Speaker 4: That is very sweet, same way you make me smile

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Speaker 4: every day.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: And then would you like love Gavin XOXO sort of salutation?

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Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, yeah, you can say it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, perfect?

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Speaker 4: And then who do you want me to address these two?

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Speaker 7: Natalie Gavin neat Natalie.

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Speaker 3: I've been listening this whole time, Okay, Yeah, I know

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Speaker 3: it's confusing, but I call the radio and I set

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Speaker 6: You set this up, all right?

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Speaker 3: What a bush me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're on the radio, just to we're clear,

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Speaker 2: you're on John Jay and Rich wore the roses, right,

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Speaker 3: H Yeah. I didn't know how else to ask what

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Speaker 3: someone else was in the picture and like or you

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Speaker 3: thankfully you passed the test.

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Speaker 5: Hooray.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Natalie, of course I did. Mary Honey, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, but you've been acting so distant and strange since

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Speaker 3: we got back together, and I just, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I needed some like validation.

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Speaker 6: I have been carrying something that I haven't told you.

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Speaker 3: I figured that that's.

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Speaker 7: What I thought completely while we were separated, never we

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Speaker 6: I sucked this page more than once.

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Speaker 3: Page. What the hell your friend?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we haven't spoken since you and and I reconciled.

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Speaker 7: I ended it, you know, a clean break, and it

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Speaker 7: but that's you know, it's it's uh, that's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but come on, Gavin, like I need you to

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Speaker 3: understand why this hurts much differently than just a random woman.

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Speaker 3: Like Page is your friend.

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Speaker 1: it's better if you didn't know you're trying to put

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Speaker 4: I think it's better if you didn't better if you did.

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Speaker 2: Not you imagine you imagine yeah, Page.

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Speaker 1: Because it doesn't feel like a satisfactory answer.

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Speaker 4: For and you question all of their interactions before in.

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Speaker 5: His page, like just like a random like coworker friend,

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Speaker 5: Like what kind of friend?

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Speaker 3: No Page is like a friend who's been in our lives,

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Speaker 4: Like not anymore?

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Speaker 1: You should his friends. So I thought it was maybe

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Speaker 5: That's what I was saying, or like maybe one of

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Speaker 2: Any chance Page is really gross because that would that

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Speaker 7: A she's she's a good person.

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Speaker 1: You stop talking.

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Speaker 4: Guys, let's not make it worse, hippit. Do you feel

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Speaker 4: you got the information you needed? He did fess up, honestly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I mean I wanted us to come

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Speaker 3: because yeah, I do question every interaction before this, you know.

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Speaker 7: So I understand. I totally get it, Natalie.

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Speaker 6: I uh, I know that you even bounds of us

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Speaker 7: A break and you know we were just being being

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Speaker 7: And I do want to try to stay together. I

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Speaker 7: want to try if if you are willing, I want

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Speaker 7: to try it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, like I am still processing. I don't

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Speaker 3: know yet. We're definitely going to have to continue conversation

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Speaker 3: about this, and you need to block her and unfront

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Speaker 3: her on everything and liked.

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Speaker 7: Doing that anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you don't need she doesn't need to

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Speaker 3: be in our lives at all, moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the only way to move forward.

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Speaker 6: I like, yeah, no, I'm hearing you a loud and clear.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, loss of a friend or the loss of

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Speaker 5: your wife, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 7: Yeah for sure. All right, well yeah I understand.

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Speaker 6: Yeah you still have flowers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you better.

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Speaker 3: Right around.

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Speaker 1: You better hook her up, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Tough situation, really tough situation in but now you have

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Speaker 2: all the cards on the table. Everyone's being very honest

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Speaker 2: about everything. So good luck to you and your marriage.

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Speaker 2: Thank you both for going in the air with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: The Different War of the Roses. It's John, Jay and

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Speaker 2: Rich