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Speaker 2: But coming off of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean doesn't really matter. The Broncos fans right now

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and played the Seattle Seahawks right city would have

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Speaker 1: And I don't think a lot of Broncos fans have

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Speaker 1: But isn't that a cool position to be in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Patriots didn't kind of have the advantage

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Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, no, I mean, it's it's powerful.

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Speaker 1: But the Broncos have been on the side of a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, starting off with a muffed snap and everything went

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Speaker 1: It's a fantastic question. I've thought about it. I think

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we have to talk about the scenario

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Speaker 2: On, No, but we can picture it.

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Speaker 3: Picture this picture of this game, the Broncos versus the

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Speaker 2: Put it in your mind for a second.

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Speaker 3: You can, and you convinced yourself Stitty was gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: Great, But I said, he competed.

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Speaker 3: But now picture the Broncos defense with the Seattle Seahawks offense.

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Speaker 2: I would have talked myself into it. Yeah, I guarantee

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Speaker 3: A thousand percent would have said Broncos winning this seventh.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind. I would have.

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Speaker 3: I would have been all, all of a sudden, is

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, interrounted, but I had set up to this

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Speaker 3: Gonna do this and this. Now, their margins would have

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Speaker 2: That's what we'd be saying all week.

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Speaker 3: There's always a hot time, you know that, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I think you're calling it a whiny a probably

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Speaker 2: Do they say it like that? I'm emphasizing can.

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Speaker 1: From New Mexico, let's you know, but says we are

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a cynical way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: I think the Broncos defense could hold Seattle off defense

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Speaker 2: You know, they didn't really fly, that's right.

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Speaker 1: A couple of texts here, Uh, boy, Nate stepped into

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Speaker 3: But now, I mean, so are there any like multiple

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Speaker 1: NATA look forward to hearing you and Ryan and miss

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Speaker 1: There's a politics, you know, sometimes you go up against

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Speaker 1: a juggernaut, that's true. Yeah, the Seahawks blowing out Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: All Right, a lot of texts coming in here. See here,

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Speaker 1: if the Patriots are gonna put thirty three points, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jared Stidham is gonna put thirty five points,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think he's in the capable of that.

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Speaker 1: But if you can keep it in a relatively close

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Speaker 1: game relative too, you know, in the fourth quarter, then

444
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Speaker 1: you think like, okay, well the home field is going

445
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Speaker 1: to matter and that maybe will be the difference. Now,

446
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Speaker 1: somebody did point out the Patriots might have called a

447
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Speaker 1: more conservative game once they realized the Broncos wasn't weren't

448
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Speaker 1: doing very much, especially in the second half.

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Speaker 2: There's probably some truth to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there were some times where it felt

451
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Speaker 1: like Drake May wasn't really forcing it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of knew as that second half began.

454
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Speaker 3: I mean, they went on a ten minute drive to

455
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Speaker 3: start the second half, and maybe after that one they realized,

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Speaker 3: all right, let's slow things down. They're not moving the

457
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Speaker 3: ball very well. But at the same time, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: relative to the prospect of playing in a super Bowl,

459
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Speaker 3: even if you're gonna get your butt kicked, the.

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Speaker 2: Players want that chance. Yeah for sure, let's go have

461
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Speaker 2: that chance. Yeah, I'll take the butt whip.

462
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Speaker 3: And if they're the better team, but we want that

463
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Speaker 3: chance to prove them wrong and to prove all the

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Speaker 3: doubters wrong. And I think ultimately that's what hurts so much,

465
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Speaker 3: because you get to the doorstep and when you're walking

466
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Speaker 3: into THEFC Championship game at home, you're realizing how close

467
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Speaker 3: you are. It recalibrates your sense of expectations.

468
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Speaker 2: We're here. We want to make it all the way.

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Speaker 2: Personality prickly Arms Again.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I love about doing the show

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Speaker 1: with you is some of those random segue conversations because

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'll you know, I'll go home after the show.

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Speaker 1: I go home every night, but I'm saying, sometimes I'll

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Speaker 1: go home and my wife will ask me about the

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Speaker 1: show and what was the show today? So what we

476
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Speaker 1: talked about Harry Arms and on the airplane, on the

477
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Speaker 1: on the airplane and you know, being tackled by men

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Speaker 1: with Harry arms. Yeah, and then the men that shaved

479
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Speaker 1: their arms and how it's actually maybe worse because it

480
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Speaker 1: becomes prickly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she'll be intrigued and she'll have to go

482
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Speaker 3: back and listen.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Another thing on the plane when you when you're sitting

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Speaker 3: kind of towards the back and started starting to fill up. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: and you're wondering who's going to be the person who

487
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Speaker 3: sits in the in the seat next to you. Maybe

488
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Speaker 3: you don't have those things going through your head, but

489
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Speaker 3: to me, I am, because you know, I don't want

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Speaker 3: a big dude to sit next to me, or a

491
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Speaker 3: person with harry arms. I don't want that to happen.

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Speaker 3: So you start to see the people walking back and

493
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh god, no, not that guy, not that guy,

494
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Speaker 3: Keep going, keep going, And then eventually someone does sit

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Speaker 3: next to you, and you just hope it's the right person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a little bit of a hope

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Speaker 2: there for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And are you just before we cause I guess some

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Speaker 1: more texts I want to get to and I want

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Speaker 1: to play some sound, But are you you A I

501
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Speaker 1: just go to the back of the plane, like like

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Speaker 1: when I travel with Ben when we go to the

503
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Speaker 1: combine and we go to different things, and Ben is

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Speaker 1: a I just go straight to the back of the plane.

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Speaker 2: I don't even mess around with it because in his way, you're.

506
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Speaker 3: Talking about Southwest when you don't have a sign seating.

507
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and unfortunate now you do.

508
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Speaker 3: But but back in the day when you didn't like,

509
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Speaker 3: you just be like we bored, when we bored.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to the back. No, I'm not going

511
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Speaker 2: to the very bathroom.

512
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Speaker 3: Bathroom planet people's poop every time the door opens. No,

513
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Speaker 3: I'm not sitting in the back of the plane, that's all.

514
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Speaker 3: And also that Jesus well, I mean it's true, it's

515
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Speaker 3: not a good seat to have. I don't think so either,

516
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Speaker 3: But right next to the bathroom, you don't want to

517
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Speaker 3: be about the bathroom for me standing up in the

518
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Speaker 3: aisle right next to you waiting for the bathroom, which

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Speaker 3: I don't like. And then also that seat doesn't recline

520
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Speaker 3: because it's got a like the wall behind it.

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Speaker 2: He's not a great seat.

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Speaker 3: He likes it because then you have the possibility of

523
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Speaker 3: nobody sitting next to you, Like you see the window

524
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Speaker 3: and you sit to the aisle, and nobody wants to

525
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Speaker 3: sit in the back, and so then you might have

526
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Speaker 3: more space. Yeah, amaze argument unless it's a full flight,

527
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Speaker 3: in which case the very last person who could not

528
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Speaker 3: find a seat is going to be sitting next to

529
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Speaker 3: next to you, and you don't want that person next

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Speaker 3: to here.

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Speaker 2: Probably not. No, there's there's a reason why they're the last.

532
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Speaker 3: No. Oh, they're running in because they're almost late. So

533
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Speaker 3: they're sweaty and they're breathing hard. They have a bald dishevel,

534
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Speaker 3: they got bags everywhere, and the flight is waiting for them,

535
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Speaker 3: mister Johnson, you know. And he's running through the terminal

536
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Speaker 3: and then he's sitting next to Ben, and then he

537
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Speaker 3: sits next to Ben and they're both smelling the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: The whole flight exactly five six six nine zero is

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Speaker 1: our kway commispreal text. I'll read a couple of tet here,

540
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to play one more sound bite here

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Speaker 1: before we got out of here, and again Broncos Country

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Speaker 1: Tonight coming up at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: This was, uh, I don't know, wait, I'll give you

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Speaker 2: a choice.

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Speaker 1: Here we got Mike Rico, Mike Florio, Jason Garrett talking

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Speaker 1: about the Broncos or Chris collins Worth talking about how

547
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Speaker 1: he's going to say Patrick Mahomes too many times.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Tarrico, Tarrico. It's a good one. All right.

549
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Speaker 1: Here's Mike Tico on the hurdles of Broncos face to

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Speaker 1: get back to this position and maybe the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Well, they don't have too many hurdles, right, you know,

552
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Speaker 4: they'll have to go through the typical free agency changes

553
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Speaker 4: that happened for a team as years go on and

554
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Speaker 4: you lose players. The defense was terrific this year. It

555
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Speaker 4: was really really good. The pass rushers outstanding. It's hard

556
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Speaker 4: to keep young pass rushers who were all making that

557
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Speaker 4: kind of money as you go through, so they have

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Speaker 4: to manage that.

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Speaker 2: But both showed a lot. But there's more to do

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Speaker 2: with that offense.

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Speaker 4: The concerning thing at the moment was the change and

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Speaker 4: the coaching staff on that side. It didn't end smoothly,

563
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Speaker 4: from the Knicks injury to the announcement about it to

564
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Speaker 4: all that stuff. So let's see how that gets straightened

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Speaker 4: out here in the offseason. Look, Shawn's been there and

566
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Speaker 4: done it. He knows what it takes to win a

567
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. Saw a lot of those Saints teams and

568
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Speaker 4: worked with Drew Brees during my time after he played

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Speaker 4: for the Saints, So I know that they know how

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Speaker 4: to do things. They're just gonna have to make sure

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Speaker 4: that all the ducks are in a row, and they

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Speaker 4: can get that. But dev Denver back in the league

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Speaker 4: in a prominent place, a great home field, great city

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Speaker 4: to do games.

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Speaker 2: It's good for the league that Devers back in it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's all really well said, and I think

577
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Speaker 1: a lot of people thinking in terms of how the

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Speaker 1: Broncos can kind of recreate some of what this season was.

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Speaker 1: And it'll never be, as we just heard from Michael McDonald,

580
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Speaker 1: never be the same again. So you're not going to

581
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Speaker 1: probably win games the same way. You can't expect to

582
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Speaker 1: win the one score games as successfully as you did

583
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Speaker 1: this last year, simultaneously the fourth quarter comebacks. It's good

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Speaker 1: that you to know you have that in your back pocket.

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Speaker 1: But there's going to be more opportunities where the ball

586
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Speaker 1: doesn't bounce your way and you're not going to close there,

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Speaker 1: so you've got to have another sort of trick up

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Speaker 1: your sleeve. But he brought up a great point about

589
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Speaker 1: the culture of Sean Payton, right, and speaking of prickly,

590
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Speaker 1: there are some people that don't necessarily like his approach,

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Speaker 1: but there is something he's brought to this team along

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Speaker 1: with Phonix, but something he's brought to this team where

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Speaker 1: they have a core competency in their approach in everything

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Speaker 1: they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Confidence, Yeah, when you have a coach like that. He

597
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Speaker 3: has a routine that he puts the team through every

598
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Speaker 3: every week. Every minute is on the itinerary and he

599
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Speaker 3: knows exactly how to spend every single minute. And if

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Speaker 3: you do it that way, it results in wins, and

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Speaker 3: then you gain more.

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Speaker 2: Confidence every time you do that. The Broncos just won

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Speaker 2: fourteen games.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a very confident unit coming

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Speaker 3: back next year because they've just done it. They found

606
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Speaker 3: out how to do it. They found that missing piece

607
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Speaker 3: that's winning those close games. It's believing you're going to win,

608
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Speaker 3: and it's a routine of the week. And Champayne is

609
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Speaker 3: a very confident individual and you want that kind of.

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Speaker 2: Guy as a leader.

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Speaker 3: But I think also what he said about the Broncos

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Speaker 3: being relevant again being good for the league, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think that's a big one. I think for so

614
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Speaker 3: many years, the Broncos were the crown one of the

615
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Speaker 3: crown jewels, of this league are And that's why the

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Speaker 3: last ten years prior to you know, the last couple

617
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Speaker 3: were so hard because it was like it wasn't like

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Speaker 3: the Browns were bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Browns are always bad, right.

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Speaker 3: They've never been a good organization, They've never been a

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Speaker 3: crown jewel.

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Speaker 2: But the Broncos have been the class of.

623
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Speaker 3: This league for so many years, and so to see

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Speaker 3: him down for people who market the game, for people

625
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Speaker 3: like Mark Turco who promote the game, to see a

626
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Speaker 3: team with that much tradition and expectations being bad for

627
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Speaker 3: so long, that's hard, and that actually like takes the league.

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Speaker 2: Down a pig. You want to see the Broncos on top.

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Speaker 3: So seeing them back in important relevant games is great

630
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Speaker 3: for the league. It's great for everybody involved in specifically

631
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Speaker 3: Broncos Country.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel like they're going to deal and

633
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Speaker 1: this is more of a later in the offseason as

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Speaker 1: we're need a training camp, how do you think this

635
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Speaker 1: team is prepared to deal with higher expectations?

636
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Speaker 3: Yeah, great question, because you know, like Bo said, overdogs

637
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: now right, yeah, Now, the attentions on you, it's not

638
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: like you're overachieving. Now you've been almost to the mountaintop.

639
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: Let's see how you handle number one, that disappointment, right,

640
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: getting so close and then not being able to get it.

641
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Speaker 3: But also now people are going to expect you to

642
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Speaker 3: get back there. And by the way, the Chiefs are

643
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Speaker 3: going to reload. They're going to be hungry. Right, the

644
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: Chargeos might be better. The Raiders might even be better.

645
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Speaker 3: You know, maybe not, maybe the Raiders can't do anything

646
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Speaker 3: to get better no matter what. But the Chiefs, you

647
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: gotta imagine they'll be better. So so yeah, there, and

648
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: now they're coming for you know, you're not the hunter anymore,

649
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: you're the hunted.

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Speaker 2: So I think they'll handle it well.

651
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Speaker 3: I think they, you know, had enough close games, enough

652
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Speaker 3: games maybe they shouldn't have won or whatever to feel

653
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Speaker 3: not lucky, but like, hey, we got to tighten up

654
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Speaker 3: the screws and become better if we want even the

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Speaker 3: same result, to have to win that many games, and

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Speaker 3: obviously we got to win the big one. But I

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Speaker 3: think they'll handle it well. Huddly and fuzzy and generally good.

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Speaker 1: My high school mascot bunnies, well a jack rabbit, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it would have been funny though if it was

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Speaker 1: like the bunnies Yeah. The junior high team was the

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Speaker 1: Bunnies up in four Collins. They have the Lambkins. Okay, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm serious like that, they're they're high school

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Speaker 1: mascot is the lamb Kin like Jamie Lambs, Jamie Lambs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this is not my high school. I went

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Speaker 2: to We are the Warriors, of course you were, Yeah, proud,

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Speaker 2: aren't you? Warriors?

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Speaker 3: I went to a Division III college called Memlo, and

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Speaker 3: we're the Oaks.

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Speaker 2: O the tree Oaks, like the Mighty Oaks. The Oaks,

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Speaker 2: just the Oaks. I guess Mighty Oak has redundant, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Day was trying to convince me to, uh to

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Speaker 1: be an Oak yesterday. Yeah, I was, well, I can't

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Speaker 1: even remember what the reference was. He's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: stand strong in your take. I think he was trying

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Speaker 1: to convince me to admit that I wasn't a Nuggets

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Speaker 1: fan or something like that, because.

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Speaker 3: You're like constantly disparaging them, don't believe they can.

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Speaker 2: Win, not using talking up Okac Thunder.

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Speaker 3: In the Timberwolves. You bet against him playing against the

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Speaker 3: Knicks at two Nate.

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Speaker 1: You could catch Ryan's podcast Ride the Lightning at Oka

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Speaker 1: see thunder podcast on the I Heart app. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, be strong and you take like

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Speaker 1: an oak, and then you try to think of a

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Speaker 1: weak tree. And I said sapling, and he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there'll be a sapling, right.

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Speaker 2: A type of tree. It's just a tree tree.

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Speaker 1: But I just I couldn't think of another like swaying

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Speaker 1: the wind, the kind of thing bamboo tree.

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Speaker 2: Bamboo would have been a good one, like a silver elm.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: My dad was a forester. I should have I should

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Speaker 1: have like texted him, like it, what's a weak tree, dad?

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Speaker 1: Your dad's a forester. I've retired, but yes, he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a forester for like forty years. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine like doing a job. What does a forester do?

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Speaker 1: You just walk around in the forest and you look

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Speaker 1: at trees, know what that tree is, and I know

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Speaker 1: what that tree.

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Speaker 2: Its, just like like.

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Speaker 1: And he had, you know, over the course of forty years,

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Speaker 1: he had different jobs in forest tree.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's say like he but he was one

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Speaker 2: of those. What was one of them? I mean, like

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Speaker 2: what would he do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he would be responsible for maintaining like certain

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Speaker 1: forests and then like they'd have like controlled burns to

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Speaker 1: make sure, like like it wouldn't get out of hand

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Speaker 1: if they had it a real fire kind of deal.

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Speaker 2: So hey, stuff like that. I don't know. Okay, he

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Speaker 2: was telling you not to be a soft wood. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. Did you tell him that you don't need

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Speaker 2: that yet yours? You're not on any ship. Leave it

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Speaker 2: up to you, even dressed like that to make that joke.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, so very quickly, he was one of those rare

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Speaker 3: people that knew exactly what he wanted to do, like

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Speaker 3: as a kid, like he was like an eight year old.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I want to be a forester.

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Speaker 1: Like, I mean, I've treated changed jobs so many times,

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Speaker 1: but like he knew what he wanted.

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Speaker 2: He did it for forty years. Impressive. Have you seen

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Speaker 2: the movie Finding Forrester? Yes, I watch that the other day.

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Speaker 2: Actually a good movie. You're the Maunain now, dog farther

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Speaker 2: is a measure of distance. Further Tontes degree, I didn't

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Speaker 2: know you could do Connery. Well, it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: classic one.

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Speaker 3: I mean it is, but I'm Scottish, so oh well

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Speaker 3: there you know, but he's not like a classic Scottish accent.

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Speaker 2: And though no.

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Speaker 3: You can you say welcome to the rock, Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the rock. Homember I b that the other day, the

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Speaker 3: other day was a terrible here yours.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not fee him on the spot. Now, people's

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Speaker 2: ears bled. I allegedly