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Speaker 2: Is it over, Brad, they've wrapped up their postgame show. Okay, good, Hi,

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Speaker 2: my apologies, tearing, My apologies. I'm mullegar. This is ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. Hopefully you're having a

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Speaker 2: great Thursday. I guess you are if you're a Kentucky fan.

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Speaker 2: Wildcats hang on, Denzel Aberdeen was awesome down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: and UK advances to tomorrow where they'll take on Florida.

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Speaker 2: That'll be fun in Nashville tomorrow. A game you'll hear

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. It was a seventy eight to

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Speaker 2: seventy two the final score today. So Kentucky advances in

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Speaker 2: the SEC Tournament and a chance I think to dramatically

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Speaker 3: Maybe not dramatically, that's.

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Speaker 2: That's an over exaggeration, but a chance to improve their seed,

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Speaker 2: perhaps by beating Florida tomorrow. We will see. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 2: Miami RedHawks lost today. Blew an eleven point lead with

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Speaker 2: to eighty three. The red Hawks, by Travis Steele's own admission,

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Speaker 2: if they have an achilles heel and every team does.

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Speaker 2: But for Miami it's defense, and they didn't defend at

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Speaker 2: all very well today. I should say they didn't defend

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Speaker 2: Travis Steel's team could not get stops. The consensus is

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Speaker 2: the RedHawks are still going to be in probably playing

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Speaker 2: in Dton. I am not a bracketologist, but our guy

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Speaker 2: Hunter Sansom is, and he is going to be on

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Speaker 2: the show coming up at five thirty five. And every

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Speaker 2: college basketball writer or expert that I have read or followed,

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Speaker 2: including our guy Hunter, believes Miami is going to make

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Speaker 3: Now it would be helpful to the cause.

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Speaker 2: I guess if Auburn and their seventeen and fifteen record

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Speaker 2: would lose today to Tennessee. Right now, that game has

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Speaker 2: by seven points, twenty five to eighteen. Miami deserves to

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Speaker 2: the stuff that happened around the sport yesterday with all

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Speaker 2: which Chad Brendle's going to be on the show, at

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Speaker 2: what happened yesterday, the meltdown that we lived through on

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Speaker 2: about what's next. Ohio State wins and look, man, give

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Speaker 2: the Buckeyes credit. Beat Iowa today in the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: guys have won four consecutive games, and so give credit

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Speaker 2: of different stuff. Brian Cook was made available today. You'll

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Speaker 2: You'll hear from him. Orlando Brown was made available today.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear from him. Orlando Brown was made available because

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Speaker 2: Under contract for twenty twenty six, so two more years

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Speaker 2: So there's some good there, right. It's also a guy

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Speaker 2: The players the Bengals have acquired seem helpful. I think

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Speaker 2: If it's a highly paid rotational piece, that's okay. You

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Speaker 2: We're still wondering what are they going to do at linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I guess you have to ask, though, like if not him,

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Speaker 3: Lots of moving parts, lots to talk about today.

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Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati plays tonight. Pat Nowton after the game on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: was searching for ideas, searching for answers to get some

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Speaker 2: Man pat Noonan was not ready to chat Orange and

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Speaker 2: I think we're expecting a desperate team on Sunday NFC Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: Certainly, hope so awesome they have you as always, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: much appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We'll do it soon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look forward to it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it.

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Speaker 2: I think it would have been one thing for that season,

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Speaker 3: If you think back to when the Bearcats were, you.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it was yesterday, those final two minutes of regulation

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Speaker 2: They introduced officially today boy A Mafe and Brian Cook.

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Speaker 2: things in just a few seconds. The Miami RedHawks lost

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Speaker 2: Kentucky wins today over Missouri seventy eight to seventy two

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Speaker 2: tonight at seven on seven hundred WLW Saint John's one

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Speaker 2: earlier today in the Biggiest Tournament eighty five to seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Last I saw Seaton Hall was putting the finishing touches

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Speaker 2: on Creighton at Madison Square Guarden FC Cincinnati Soccer Tonight

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Speaker 2: Writes Bengals Columns for Cincinnati Magazine. Also contributes to FTN

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Speaker 8: the twenty fifteen Bengals season when they started out eight

436
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 8: and oh and everything was golden and Andy Dalton was

437
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 8: an MVP, and then they crashed down mightily in the playoffs.

438
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 8: That's kind of what it's felt like. Last few days.

439
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 8: Started great, then we're berefted. But you know, they rebounded

440
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 8: a little bit today, so there's a little bit of

441
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 8: hope still in Bengal Land. Not a ton, but a

442
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 8: little bit.

443
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what they've done and who they've acquired.

444
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: Let's start with the guy today, Jonathan Allen. What kind

445
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: of move is this?

446
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 8: Well, you know, they needed a defensive tackle in the

447
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 8: worst way. They needed a big body in there, regardless

448
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 8: of who he is. You know, and if you look

449
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 8: at him, of all the Bengals currently on the defensive line,

450
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 8: only Miles Murphy had more sex than he did last year.

451
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 8: So you know, I'd prefer Jonathan Allen at twenty twenty

452
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 8: two than the Jonathan Allen at twenty twenty six, and

453
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 8: you know, if they had been able to trade a

454
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 8: draft pick for Ohsa Odigizawa as the forty nine ers

455
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 8: did yesterday, I would have preferred that, not just because

456
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 8: it's a it's a fun name to say, but also

457
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 8: be because he's kind of what Allen was like a

458
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 8: few years ago, which is, you know, younger and had

459
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 8: more juice inside, but they desperately needed another body. And

460
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 8: you know, the best way to think of Alan is

461
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 8: kind of like a twin of VJ.

462
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: Hill.

463
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 8: Hopefully not an evil twin, but just a twin. You know,

464
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 8: they do a lot of the same things, and they're

465
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 8: just at this stage of their career. They're both thirty

466
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 8: one now, and you know, if you can play them

467
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 8: both and keep the rotation going so that they're both

468
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 8: fresh at all times and get the best out of

469
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 8: both of them and any given series or any given

470
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 8: quarter whatever, you know, they can both be effective. And

471
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 8: it's when they play too much they get the diminishing returns.

472
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 8: So I think in that sense, it's good. You know,

473
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 8: he's not a difference maker inside, He's going to be

474
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 8: a center of gravity that they desperately need. But you know,

475
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 8: it helps, and it's a start, at least in the

476
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 8: defensive tackle room. For sure.

477
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: It feels like Brian Cook, who I'm biased because I

478
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: loved him at UC, is the the polar opposite of

479
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: Geno Stone. I'll take anything anybody. I don't care where

480
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: he's from or where he went to school. That's the

481
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: polar opposite of genostone. Is that how you look at it?

482
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, one's the Arctic Circle and the others Antarctica where

483
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 8: the things are right. Yeah, no doubt what an upgrade.

484
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 8: I mean, good lord. You know. The thing I like

485
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 8: about him, and this is also true of Boy and Mafe,

486
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 8: the other guy the Bengals signed on the first day,

487
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 8: is you know, it's felt like over the last couple years,

488
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 8: especially on defense, the Bengals just they bring a knife

489
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 8: to a gunfight. When it comes to physical play, they've

490
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 8: just been more finesse than the physical violent nature that

491
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 8: the sport really requires. That is not true of Cook,

492
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 8: that is not true of Mafe.

493
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 6: Both.

494
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 8: You know, really heavy duty players that love to hit you,

495
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 8: back up and hit you again. Cook in particular is

496
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 8: just a superb tackler. I think the stat was out

497
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 8: there and he's missed, you know, basically the same number

498
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 8: of tackles in his whole career that you know Stone

499
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 8: missed last year. That that can only bring smiles to

500
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 8: the face of Bengal fans and Al Golden in particular.

501
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 8: You know, he's not a perfect player by any stretch,

502
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 8: but what the need is for a guy to kind

503
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 8: of patrol, get everybody sorted into the right place and

504
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 8: come up and whacky in the teeth and get you

505
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 8: to the ground. Cook will definitely do that. So that

506
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 8: was an excellent signing. And Mafey, you know, he got

507
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 8: lost a little bit in Mike McDonald's group swarm system,

508
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 8: I guess you'd call it in Seattle, so they didn't

509
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 8: really prize individual stats there. So it looks like a

510
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 8: two sax season. What do we do and sign this guy?

511
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: But he's got.

512
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 8: Heavy hands, a real physical presence. Again sets the edge

513
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 8: excellently for a defensive end, something they've missed quite a

514
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 8: bit in Cincinnati as well. These are two guys that

515
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 8: are really helped the defense. Now, you know, there's still

516
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 8: a couple of players like that short but at least

517
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 8: you know, on the first day they signed two guys

518
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 8: that were exactly what they needed.

519
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon, after we saw the two splashy signings, which

520
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: I think all of us were excited about, the next

521
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: question was what about it linebacker? Seventy two hours later, Robert,

522
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm asking the same that's not good.

523
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely not. It's it's a recurring theme around these parts.

524
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 8: What are we going to do with linebacker? Look, it's

525
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 8: still there's still time. I guess there's you never know

526
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 8: who gets cut or becomes a potential trade possibility. But

527
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 8: it just seemed that the way they talked for the

528
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 8: last six weeks, especially about needing, you know, kind of

529
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 8: a bare front linebacker to play on the line of

530
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 8: scrimmage and free Demetrius Knight to be more of the

531
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 8: run and react guy that he is and not have

532
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 8: to take on physical challenges at the line of scrimmage.

533
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 8: There were a couple of guys like that out there

534
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 8: who were not that expensive. I think Leoshanow is a

535
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 8: guy everybody's familiar with. Now nobody heard of him. Ninety

536
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 8: five fans out there never heard of the guy before,

537
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 8: you know, the last couple of weeks.

538
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 7: But now we're all.

539
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 8: Desperate that we didn't get him. But he would have

540
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 8: fit really perfectly in what they could have used, and

541
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 8: the fact they didn't get him or anybody even close

542
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 8: to like him, or anybody at all, really kind of

543
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 8: makes you scratch your head. The one thing we figured

544
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 8: was not going to happen was that they were going

545
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 8: to go back to battle starting Demutrious.

546
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: Knight and Barrett car Oh. No.

547
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 8: You know, the question is, you know, do they still

548
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 8: look and find somebody even if it's a you know,

549
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 8: kind of a fifth level player to come in, or

550
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 8: an older player like a Bobby Wagner who's not the

551
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 8: kind of physical presence he used to be, but it's

552
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 8: still a smart, heavy player.

553
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 7: It can help.

554
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 8: Do they go to the draft and just say, listen,

555
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 8: we're going to find a starting linebacker and pray that

556
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 8: Sunny Styles falls to us. I find it hard to

557
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 8: believe they would do either of those things. But I mean,

558
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 8: this is the position they've left themselves in, and it's

559
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 8: hard to know exactly why. Whether it's the way they

560
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 8: structure their contracts and the first two guys, or they

561
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 8: just weren't prepared for, you know, the bidding wars that

562
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 8: have that developed over some of the other players out

563
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 8: there or you know, in Chanelle's case, maybe he just

564
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 8: wanted to play in Washington and check out the mall

565
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 8: and the Smithsonian. I don't know, but something happened there

566
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 8: and it left them really behind the eight ball at

567
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 8: that position. And it's you know, it's just hard to

568
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 8: believe after what we went through last year that you know,

569
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 8: still it's only March, but we're the obvious answers aren't

570
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 8: in sight, and that it's a question is how that's

571
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 8: they're going to be answered. That's for sure.

572
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: When I see smart people, people whose opinions I respect,

573
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: suggest go bring back a Keem Davis gate, the then

574
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: we've entered a very dark place. I just nothing against him, man,

575
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: I just that's that's not where my head was when

576
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: when the legal tampering period open on Monday morning.

577
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I mean, is there some illegal tampering? We

578
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 8: could be doing better than that. I don't know nothing

579
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 8: against a Keem Davis gate there. You know, nice guy.

580
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 8: He serves his role when he's your fifth linebacker. Yes,

581
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 8: but boy, if he's your answer, you got to change

582
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 8: the questions. So you know, I don't think they're going

583
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 8: to go that route, but you know, they may have

584
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 8: left themselves in a position where they're gonna have to get,

585
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 8: if not him, you know, a player of equal ability,

586
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 8: just to have another body to fill out the unit.

587
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 8: And then you know, right now, what do you do?

588
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 8: And you go to war with these two guys and

589
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 8: there's literally nobody else. Yeah, obviously they think they're going

590
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 8: to draft one, and it is a deep linebacker draft.

591
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 8: I will say that I find it hard to believe

592
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 8: they won't draft one at all. But whether you're you know,

593
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 8: counting on a difference maker to come in year one,

594
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 8: we saw how that went last year. So it's it's

595
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 8: very rare that you come across any rookie, regardless of position,

596
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 8: but linebacker in particular, who can really make the kind

597
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 8: of difference they needed linebacker. And to rely on the

598
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 8: tory on going to the draft to find one is really,

599
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 8: you know, trying to pull an inside straight with with

600
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 8: no odds on your side.

601
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: That's for sure.

602
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: You are not permitted to publicly opine about all NFL

603
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: matters without weighing in on what happened between the Ravens,

604
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: the Raiders and Trey Hendrickson.

605
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: So the floor yours, it's just another just when we.

606
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 8: Thought we were out. You couldn't just go to Dallas

607
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 8: or Tampa Bay and live out the rest of his

608
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 8: NFL career relative animminity and just leave us all alone.

609
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 8: It had to go to Baltimore, had to be more

610
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 8: of this. It's just it's just unbelievable. And you know,

611
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 8: I was quietly celebrating. Celebrating might not be the right word,

612
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 8: but you know, I thought the Ravens, you know, getting

613
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 8: up to number one pikes for Crosby was a little

614
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 8: pretty rich. Max Crosby is on the downside, his physical

615
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 8: style has taken its toll. I don't think his you know,

616
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 8: his best footballs behind him, and giving up two number

617
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 8: ones was a really rich price. And I was happy

618
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 8: about that as a Bengals fan. Uh And you know,

619
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 8: obviously they got cold feet as well, and how they

620
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 8: were able to pull out of that particular deal. And

621
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 8: there's a joke I can make there somewhere, but broadcast

622
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 8: standards won't know it.

623
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: But yes, the fact that.

624
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 8: They were able to you know, pivot and get you know,

625
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 8: Hendrickson and keep him to the point where we have

626
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 8: to see him now twice a year and worry about

627
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 8: blocking him with with an aging Orlando Brown. It's just unbelievable.

628
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 8: I mean, I guess it's a question of, you know,

629
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 8: who's whose physical health falls off, first, Brown or Hendrickson.

630
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 8: The Bengals have been you know, yes, the granny is

631
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 8: that they were pretty much vindicated for their stances all

632
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 8: the way around, in the fact that it took hendricks

633
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 8: In a long time to sign and the money he wanted,

634
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 8: and it was looking like they could do a little

635
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 8: you know, quiet champagne popping there in the in the

636
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 8: front offices.

637
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 6: But of course.

638
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 8: It didn't work out that way, and now we're going

639
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 8: to have to continue to deal with him at least

640
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 8: twice a year, and I'm sure Joe Burrow's not that

641
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 8: happy about that.

642
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: I can't help but ask, did they really need to

643
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: give Orlando Brown two more years?

644
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 6: Boy?

645
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 8: You know, I was thinking that, you know, unlike most

646
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 8: people had been number ten pick would not be a

647
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 8: bad usage to get a left tackle the future. Yeah,

648
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 8: you have Orlando Brown for this year, and then you

649
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 8: still need a swing tackle badly for this year. Cody

650
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 8: Ford's in that position right now, and then you grewom

651
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 8: the guy you pick. Now it's not a great year

652
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Speaker 8: for tackles. The only one who really fits is Monroe

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Speaker 8: Freewing out of Georgia, who is an incredible athlete, blew

654
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 8: up the combine, had a great you know as a

655
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Speaker 8: physical specimen. But he's kind of like a Marius Moons.

656
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Speaker 8: I'm out of Georgia where he wasn't a perfect prospect,

657
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 8: didn't play a ton until this past year. You know,

658
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 8: there's some questions, but if you give him the season

659
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 8: to acclimate himself and then you let him take over

660
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 8: at left tackle, that would have been an ideal result.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I know they have now painted themselves into

662
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 8: a corner they have to go defense, but I was

663
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Speaker 8: really hoping that they would do something forward thinking at

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Speaker 8: the number ten spot, because it's hard to find left tackles,

665
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Speaker 8: you know, outside of the high parts of the first round.

666
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Speaker 8: But you know, they they get Orlando to bargain. He's

667
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 8: a quality player, not a great player, but a quality

668
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Speaker 8: player at that position, and they get him for cheap,

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Speaker 8: so they love that, So, you know, I don't I

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00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 8: don't know that it's necessary that they had to do

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00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 8: that right now, or maybe they could see how he

672
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 8: plays twenty twenty six first before they dive into an extension.

673
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Speaker 8: But you know, I guess that's what you do instead

674
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Speaker 8: of signing linebackers.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's it's been a weird week because on

676
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: Monday everybody was fired up and now well now I'm not.

677
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: So we'll see appreciate the inside. As always, we'll do

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00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: it against so Man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I always say about the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Where other teams are twenty four to seven trying to

681
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 8: improve their team, the Bengals are, you know, six hours

682
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 8: maybe three days a week trying to do it. So

683
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 8: that sense they're right on schedule.

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Speaker 3: Yeah as well, But all right, well we'll do it

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Speaker 3: against so Man. Thanks so much, Gay, Wait, thanks mon.

686
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: Thanks our guy Robert Wintraub, who always joins us during

687
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: the season on Thursdays. Rights, a Bengals column for Cincinnati

688
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: Magazine dot Com, also contributes to the FTN Fantasy Annual Almanac,

689
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: which is a must when it comes out in July.

690
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: Get it, make plans now, order it in four months.

691
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Maybe by then the Bengals will assign a linebacker. Ten

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Speaker 2: away from five o'clock, we will sift through the aftermath

693
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Speaker 2: of UC's loss to UCF and talk about What's next

694
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: with our guide Chad Brendel in fifteen minutes on ESPN

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by the We've had a lot

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Speaker 2: to discuss. I want to get this in because I

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Speaker 2: think it it deserves to be talked about on a

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Speaker 2: forum like this. Red's play the Dodgers tonight. Nick Lodolo

710
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: is going to pitch for Cincinnati Mount McClain Homer It

711
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: again yesterday, his fifth of the spring. His slugging percentage

712
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Speaker 2: is eleven seventy nine. He is seventeen for twenty eight

713
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: so far. That's a six oh seven batting average. He's

714
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Speaker 2: he's taking pitches, He's walking five walks so far this spring.

715
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Speaker 2: He's only struck out twice. He's not going to hit

716
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Speaker 2: six oh seven when the games begin that matter. You

717
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: and I know that, and you and I I think

718
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: are smart enough to take spring training results, whether they're

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Speaker 2: with an established player or a rookie or a minor

720
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: leaguer or a guy who was good but wasn't last year.

721
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Speaker 2: We take all of these numbers with a grain of salt.

722
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Speaker 2: But come on now, you can at least be encouraged

723
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Speaker 2: by the fact that Matt McLain is showing no signs

724
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: of ill health or anything that may or may not

725
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: have plagued him last year. Matt McLain's importance to this

726
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: team cannot be overstated. They need better two hole production.

727
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: When he's at his best, he's the two hole hitter.

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Speaker 2: The signs so far this spring have been awesome. What

729
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: he's doing is not insignificant. Let's sift through yesterday and

730
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Speaker 2: talk about what's next for the Bearcats with Chad Brendle

731
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Speaker 2: next with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports State.

733
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Speaker 2: Right there you go, four minutes after five o'clock. This

734
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Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeger, thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: Beangals have signed a defensive tackle, Jonathan Allen, former pro bowler.

736
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Speaker 2: By the way, Terren's are Minnesota Vikings guy, so I

737
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: need him to tell us what Jonathan Allen did for

738
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Speaker 2: the Vikings last season and maybe more specifically, why they

739
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Speaker 2: cut him that little bit later on, plus you'll hear

740
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Speaker 2: from Brian Cook, You'll hear from Boye Mafe as well,

741
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Speaker 2: and we'll chat with our bracketologist Hunter Sansom in just

742
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Speaker 2: about thirty minutes. Miami lost today. By the way, Auburn

743
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: is winning by ten midway through the second half, taking

744
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: on Tennessee today. Kentucky a winner earlier today in the

745
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Speaker 2: SEC Tournament. Wildcats in Florida tomorrow one o'clock tip off

746
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Ohio State beat Iowa. Xavier plays

747
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: Yukon tonight. The Bearcats are not playing today because of

748
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Speaker 2: a meltdown yesterday that I think felt oddly fitting when

749
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: you see dug a hole.

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Speaker 3: Early in the.

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Speaker 2: Season, they lost a lot of games that were there

752
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Speaker 2: for the taking. That they maybe should have won, or

753
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: at least could have won. When you're up eight with

754
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: two minutes to go, there's no could have about it.

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Speaker 2: They should have won that game, So they should be

756
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Speaker 2: playing today. And I don't know if you've been still

757
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: paying attention to what's happening in the Big twelve Tournament.

758
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: Arizona was off to a very quick start against UCF

759
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: leads by thirteen. Who knows what the outcome would have been.

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Speaker 2: But yesterday was rough, Yesterday was sobering. Yesterday was not

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Speaker 2: good for West Miller. Chad Brendle is here Bearcat journal

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Speaker 2: dot com. Hey doing, sir?

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Speaker 4: How many timeouts do I have for this segment? Just checking?

764
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Speaker 3: Will you use them? Will you use them?

765
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Speaker 2: If something sort of goes awry and you, you know,

766
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Speaker 2: maybe you're in danger of doing something that you shouldn't,

767
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Speaker 2: will you actually use them?

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Speaker 4: Time out? Time out? Will you call it on time?

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Speaker 4: If I wait until two seconds left in the segment,

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Speaker 4: will you call it on time? You know?

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Speaker 3: I watched.

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Speaker 2: I watched as soon as the game ended, pretty much

773
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Speaker 2: our show ended, and I watched you and Keegan on

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Speaker 2: the aftermath after the game and your takeaway from the

775
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Speaker 2: game itself.

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Speaker 3: Was the same as mine.

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Speaker 2: It was almost poetic for their bubble hopes, their NCAA

778
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: tournament hopes, to go up in flames with a loss

779
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 2: that felt like an extreme version of so many earlier

780
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Speaker 2: this season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when the pressure ratcheted up, they reverted back to form,

782
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Speaker 4: and it wasn't the form that had them, you know,

783
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Speaker 4: six and two or whatever in their final eight. It

784
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Speaker 4: was what we saw. They had five games this year,

785
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 4: mough with a double digit lead that they lost. That's

786
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Speaker 4: hard to fathom. And up eight with two minutes left,

787
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Speaker 4: Like the number of damning stats came out of that

788
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Speaker 4: game where it's hard to even fathom. As I was

789
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Speaker 4: going through them, they got one shot on the rim

790
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Speaker 4: in the last two minutes of that game, and it

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Speaker 4: was the day day Thomas three. With eight tenths of

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Speaker 4: a second left, they didn't get a shot attempt in

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Speaker 4: the final two minutes of the game, and then they

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Speaker 4: did it and again in overtime where they got two

795
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Speaker 4: shot attempts in the final minute forty five. One of

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Speaker 4: them was the bad Bobby Miller shot and then the

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Speaker 4: other was the myths three from Celestine. It's hard to

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Speaker 4: even comprehend. I mean, Mick Cronin might have like cried

799
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Speaker 4: himself to sleep with joy seeing that a team won

800
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Speaker 4: shooting thirty three percent from the floor, twelve percent from three,

801
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Speaker 4: and fifty five percent from the free throw line. Like

802
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Speaker 4: that is the Mick Cronin won seventy percent of his

803
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Speaker 4: games with that stat line. I'm making that up. Time

804
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: out timeout, I made that up.

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Speaker 3: Use your timeout. Yes, I made that up.

806
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I made that up. But how do you

807
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: let a team win that flashes thirty three twelve fifty five.

808
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: That's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: They're down, they're up six after a turnover that cuts

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Speaker 2: it to six, and they get a ten second violation

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Speaker 2: with experienced guards and no real full court pressure and

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Speaker 2: timeouts in the coach's back pocket.

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Speaker 4: How a sleep at the wheel? I don't know. And

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Speaker 4: my problem wasn't even that. Okay, the ten second call,

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Speaker 4: as bad as it may be, you know the funny

816
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: part about that Mo, Not only was there a ten

817
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Speaker 4: second call, but the pass that Gisel James threw to

818
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Speaker 4: to try to Floyd the ten second call was also intercepted.

819
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Speaker 4: So even if they had got it over the top,

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Speaker 4: time air up for a minute and a half left

821
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Speaker 4: you set your defense, you get your team to calm down,

822
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Speaker 4: you're not worried about who you see F subbing God forbid,

823
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: and and you and you get your team on the

824
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Speaker 4: sidelines and say, hey, we're up four, we got this,

825
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Speaker 4: get a stop, get the rebound, We're gonna win this game.

826
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Speaker 4: And he just let him play through it. And what happens.

827
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Speaker 4: You see F gets an easy basket and then Dade

828
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: Thomas turns it over and still no timeouts called. He

829
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Speaker 4: had three. This wasn't a situation where he had one

830
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Speaker 4: and he was trying to strategically like, I don't want

831
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Speaker 4: to use my last time out. He had three timeouts.

832
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: Is there a closet his contract where you get a

833
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: bonus for every time out you eat at the end

834
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Speaker 4: of the season.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Wes's contract here in just

837
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Speaker 2: a second. I think the one other thing from the

838
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Speaker 2: game that a lot of people have gone back to

839
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Speaker 2: talk about is Keishan Tillery was really good in the

840
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: first half and didn't play nearly as much in the

841
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: second half and wasn't on the floor during the meltdown.

842
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: How fair is that bit of second guessing?

843
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: Fair? I said it in the middle of the game.

844
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: I said it in the second half. Keishan Tillery was

845
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Speaker 4: your second best player today behind Mustafa Chom. He was

846
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: playing excellent. I get it. You want. Was there they did?

847
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Speaker 4: They put something in the rules that you couldn't play

848
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: with three guards, but you only were allowed to have

849
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 4: two point guards out there. You didn't have a third

850
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: one just in case, you know, was he afraid of

851
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: subbing again? Was there another issue with being afraid of

852
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 4: using substitutions? I just perplexed at the way the entire

853
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: thing went down, and none of it made any sense.

854
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 4: None of it made any sense.

855
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: Before the season started, you joined me in studio and

856
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: we talked about expectations for this team, and look, it

857
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: was tournament or bust, right, make the tournament, Wes is cool.

858
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Missed the tournament, Wes is out. And your retort to

859
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: that was I didn't say that, No, that was me.

860
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: And your retort to that was, I need to see

861
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Speaker 2: how it looks. I need to see how it looks,

862
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: which I think is fair because context does matter. So

863
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: they've they've played an entire season. How did it look.

864
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Speaker 4: I don't know how you sell it to the fan

865
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Speaker 4: base that he's coming back. I understand the money aspect

866
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: of it. We've talked about the money aspect of it.

867
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 4: I've talked about it a million times on Bearcat Journal,

868
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 4: on the Bearcat Journal podcast network. Like, I get it,

869
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 4: But you got a fan base. Those are your customers.

870
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: I don't know how you're going to win them back.

871
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 4: If the answer is Wes is coming back after five

872
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: years without making the NC DOUBLEA Tournament and being on

873
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: the cusp of making the NC DOUAA tournament and no

874
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: showing at TCU and then allowing what happened to happen yesterday,

875
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: I don't know how you. I don't know how you

876
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: sell that. Everybody went, yeah, guess what the end of

877
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 4: the season, Like, we want to talk about that. They

878
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: went two and three in their last five. They got

879
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: drilled the Texas Tack, they lost the TCU, and they

880
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: lost on a neutral court yesterday. That's that also counts,

881
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 4: right like that, we we look at it in totality. Look,

882
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: here's the reality though, if they would have won yesterday,

883
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: if they hold on to win, and let's just say

884
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 4: they lost today to Arizona, there's hope going into the

885
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: instan selection Sunday but let's say the committee comes back

886
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: and says Cincinnati was the second team out. I think

887
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 4: there's a path to go to your and people have

888
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: still been mad, but I think there's a path to

889
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: go to your fan base and say, look, we think

890
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: the program turned the corner. We think West turned the

891
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: corner in the Big twelve over these last six weeks,

892
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: five weeks, whatever, and we think he has earned another

893
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 4: year at the Helm. Now. I don't know how you

894
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: say that with any belief that your fan base is

895
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: going to buy in, And what does that look like. Look,

896
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: I don't think the lower Bowl is gonna all of

897
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: a sudden have season ticket mass departures, because guess what

898
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: those lower bowls seeds. That's an investment, Like, that's a

899
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: long term investment. I don't see as exodus in the

900
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: lower Bowl. But at the two hundred level, the upper deck,

901
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: if those people give up their their season tickets this year,

902
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: you know what they're gonna be able to do next year. Now,

903
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to get season tickets again if

904
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: they like, if they wait, if they take a year off,

905
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to get season tickets again. In

906
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: the two hundred level, it might not be your exact seats,

907
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: but like, that's I remember, and I know you remember

908
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: the last time that this fan base was fractured and lost.

909
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: I remember what five thousand fans in the butts in

910
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: the seats, five thousand announced butts.

911
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: In the announced Yeah, look like for those.

912
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: First couple of Mick cronin years, I remember what that

913
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: looked like. I think they're in danger of going back there.

914
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: So I guess you talk about like the impossibility of

915
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: selling year six of West Miller, how much will that matter?

916
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: How much? How much is that a factor versus the buyout?

917
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: What maybe some people who are on West's side that

918
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: have deep pockets may believe, like where where is that

919
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: in the pecking order? Where is season ticket retention and

920
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: people upstairs deciding to not come back? Where is that

921
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: in relation to the things that matter most when it

922
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: comes to making this decision.

923
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: So it's a great question. I don't have that answer.

924
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: That's that's ultimately the thing that John Cunningham has to weigh,

925
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: because I think they know they have to know. How

926
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: do they not know? How do they not have a

927
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: pulse on the fan base on where things are at

928
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: right now? And look maybe money wins out. Maybe the

929
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: people with the deep pockets say, I'm I'm comfortable donating

930
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: this much to the program. I'm not comfortable going anything

931
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: over that. Going over that means we fire less. And

932
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: then you know you have to pay four million dollars

933
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 4: to buy out the new coach. That's gonna be more

934
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: than we can afford. We're not gonna have enough money

935
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: to play the nil game. Like, I understand all that,

936
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: but as an athletic director, that's part of what your

937
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: job is is to manage the big donors, is to

938
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: manage you know, Hey, look, I know you're gonna be

939
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: upset if Lesson isn't our coach next year. But guess what, Well,

940
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: you'll be involved in the process of hiring a new coach.

941
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna do everything we can to make sure you

942
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: and the new coach get off on a good foot.

943
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: Like you've got to be able to manage all of

944
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 4: the parts in the athletic department that make up putting

945
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 4: a product on the floor that your fans want to

946
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 4: come see. And I just being around the fan base,

947
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 4: listening to the fan base, owning a message board, the

948
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 4: most active message community in Cincinnati, like I get a

949
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: for how they feel, and how they feel is if

950
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 4: we're not heard, then we're going to be heard. And

951
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: you know that's up to John Cunningham to mitigate everything.

952
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: You just talked about.

953
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 6: There.

954
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: Should that work have actually started.

955
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: A year ago, probably, I mean there were people that

956
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 4: were not happy a year ago. The fan base wasn't

957
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: happy a year ago, you knew, Like, I think there

958
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: was much more of an understanding last year that last

959
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: year the buyout wasn't tenable. That and and there was

960
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: a lot of really good jobs open last year. It's

961
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: the other part of this we haven't talked about. You

962
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 4: would have been pretty far down the pecking order of

963
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 4: trying to hire a new coach in last year's hiring cycle.

964
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: Who's going to be above them this year in this

965
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: hiring cycle? Syracuse, I think that's about even with Cincinnati.

966
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 4: I think Cincinnati's better job than Providence. Cincinnati's better job

967
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 4: at Boston College. Like, I think Cincinnati's right probably similar

968
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 4: to k State. Case State's got a lot of money,

969
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: So maybe that one, you know, is right on the

970
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: same par But you've got a chance to be one

971
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: of the three or four or five best jobs in

972
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 4: the hiring cycle, and there's some good names out there.

973
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: So you know, I think that if you if you've

974
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: got if you made it through last year with the

975
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: understanding of this guy needs to make the tournament, and

976
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: then the year started like it did, you would think

977
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: you're pretty far down the road even before the turnaround,

978
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 4: that if you decide you want to make something happen,

979
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: that you're going to have the ability to make something happen.

980
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 4: But you know, look, I've talked to probably twenty people today,

981
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 4: people connected to U SEE, people in the national media,

982
00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 4: people in coaching circles. Nobody has a clue. And that's

983
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 4: kind of terrifying, man, that we're at this point and

984
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: there's really nobody that has a good feel for how

985
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: this is gonna.

986
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: Play out, how much, how much of a fear is

987
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: out there, if at all, that you could move on

988
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: from a coach who's not popular. But starting from scratch

989
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: is hard, right, I mean, starting with likely an empty

990
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 2: roster and starting is hard, And so you know, yeah,

991
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: you could say five straight years not making the tournament,

992
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: seven straight years. You know, from a program perspective, if

993
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: you go back to the COVID year of not being

994
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: in the tournament. You know that that's that's fine, that

995
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: that should have people antsy and upset, but it's it's

996
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 2: really hard to get things turned around quickly enough that Okay,

997
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: next year, no matter who you're higher, you're you're back

998
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: in the dance. And I say this, and I do

999
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: not mean this as a knock at what Richard Patino

1000
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: has done at Xavier, but how much of it is

1001
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 2: a hear that you're gonna have a team that in

1002
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 2: November you know has no chance of making the big dance.

1003
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: How much of that fear drives this either way?

1004
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's really where the money comes in, though,

1005
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 4: because if you have an understanding that we're gonna really

1006
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 4: be pressed to cover less leaving and I know people

1007
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: look at like, okay, they can, they can pay it

1008
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 4: out over a length of time and you know it's

1009
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 4: monthly installments. But if you're an athletic director, you still

1010
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 4: have to have that money in the budget, Like, yes,

1011
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 4: does it make it a little easier, yes, but you

1012
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 4: still have to look at that situation. You ever managed

1013
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: anything before, if you've ever ran a budget before, you

1014
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 4: don't just get to say, oh, well, we'll worry about

1015
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: that later. Some people do, but that's how they end

1016
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 4: up out of business. So if you worry about that

1017
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 4: and then to buy out, If you're going to hire

1018
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: a sitting head coach and you look at it and say, okay,

1019
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: I think we can afford all this, but it's going

1020
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: to be at the expense of the roster, well then

1021
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 4: you're screwing over whoever is coming in to be the coach,

1022
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 4: because look, this is not a shot at Xavior. I

1023
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: know people think I want to take shots at Davier.

1024
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: I might like to take shots at Davits.

1025
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 6: One.

1026
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 4: Winning in the Big twelve is a much different animal

1027
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 4: than trying to get your footing in the Big East right.

1028
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, sure.

1029
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: And if you're trying to do it with you know,

1030
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: a five six million dollar roster and everybody else in

1031
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: the league is at eight to twelve or whatever. Man

1032
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 4: is John Wooden available.

1033
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: Well he's dead, Like what right?

1034
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: So no, no, he's not.

1035
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 6: You.

1036
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 4: You better be damn sure that the guy that you're

1037
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: bringing in can take his and be yours, take yours

1038
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 4: and beat his, because it's it's it wouldn't be you know,

1039
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 4: everybody says I'll give the new coach time, I'll give

1040
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 4: you know, I'm understanding. Until your favorite team is three

1041
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: and fifteen in the league and there's four thousand people

1042
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: in the seats that sit Third Arena and the people

1043
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: on the message board are already chirping, I think we

1044
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 4: hired the wrong guy. I think we hired the wrong guy.

1045
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 4: Like that's where the money comes really really into play

1046
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: for me.

1047
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: If there were to be a change, and you just

1048
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: spoke of the uncertainty in a community of people who

1049
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: are close to the program, if there were to be

1050
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: a change, what would that timeline most likely look like.

1051
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of talk about April first

1052
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 4: being the date that his buyout drops from ten million

1053
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: to four point six million. That is also another thing

1054
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: that's on your athletic director that if you decide, if

1055
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 4: John Cunningham sits down with his people and they decide

1056
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 4: we're moving on from West Miller, you have to be

1057
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: able to go to the agent, go to West and say, look,

1058
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: we can either wait until April first. I don't want

1059
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: to do that. You would like to get another job.

1060
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: I would assume you don't want to do that, So

1061
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 4: let's negotiate. Find something in between those two numbers, and

1062
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 4: then we can make a clean break. You're free to

1063
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: do your thing, We're free to do our thing, and

1064
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: everybody goes their separate ways. It's an amicable divorce, if

1065
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: there ever really was such a thing. And then you know,

1066
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess, like I know, the team got stranded,

1067
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: kind of not stranded, but they had delays in Kansas City.

1068
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: I still don't think they're back from Kansas City yet.

1069
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: That's got to be something.

1070
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: The last I heard, the plane was supposed to leave

1071
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 4: at four o'clock when the original time was like ten

1072
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: o'clock this morning, but I never I haven't heard if

1073
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: wheels actually got up. Is it fair to say, you

1074
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 4: know what, we wait until selection Sunday. They're on the bubble.

1075
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: I think we all know they're not gonna make it,

1076
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: but we wait until selection Sunday. We make a decision

1077
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: after we officially see Cincenat he's not in the tournament

1078
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: if it's not April first, which I might lose my

1079
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: mind if they wait until April first and miss the

1080
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 4: hiring cycle. We're three weeks, yeah, from April first, Right,

1081
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: there's a lot that's gonna go down between now and

1082
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: April first. On the coaching carousel. That would probably if

1083
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: you wait for the tournament to you know, officially know,

1084
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 4: that would maybe be more like monday with them not

1085
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: getting back. I have a hard time seeing tomorrow, which

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: probably means through the weekend. And although you know, I

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00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 4: wouldn't rule out really any I've kind of been told

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: not to rule out anything and to have my phone ready, okay,

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 4: whether it's announced coming back or announce going whatever, Like

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 4: I haven't been given a real timeline on this is

1091
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: when a decision should be or could be made, which

1092
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: is frustrating, but such as life.

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Speaker 2: I guess if I made you wager an amount of

1094
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: money that mattered to you on one outcome either way,

1095
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: where are you putting your money?

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Speaker 4: I would say, probably right now sixty forty that they

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00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 4: let him go, so like a level a six out

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00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 4: of ten confidence level, that they hire a new coach.

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Speaker 4: I can't say with any more certainty because you don't

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 4: know exactly you know what the money is going to dictate.

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: So I think if all things were equal, the easy

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00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 4: decision is you move on, and you know he's very angry, though,

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Speaker 4: I think you move on and see what the next

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: chapter of UC basketball looks. Like, but in today's college athletics,

1105
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: things are a little bit more complicated than that.

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01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: We've gone along. They're not going to have their name

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Speaker 2: called on selection Sunday. Have they played their last game

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Speaker 2: this season?

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Speaker 4: I mean that also probably depends on their decision on

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Speaker 4: Wes Miller, right, Like, if you decide you're gonna keep

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Speaker 4: Wes Miller, are you are you gonna pay the seven

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine not to pay in

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Speaker 4: the play in the Crown? You're probably gonna play in

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01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 4: the Crown. Right If you move on, I think you

1115
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: have to just say, hey, like, you know, we've got

1116
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 4: bigger fish to fry right now. So I think it

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Speaker 4: wholly depends because the reaction is they finished ninth in

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Speaker 4: the Big Twelve. We talked about this a bunch last year.

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Speaker 4: The first two teams that don't make the NCAA Tournament

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01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 4: are obligated contractually to play in the Crown. I'm pretty

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,959
Speaker 4: confident right now that there's going to be eight Big

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01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: twelve teams in the tournament, if not seven, So Cincinnati's

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01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 4: going to be contractually obligated to play in the Crown.

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Speaker 4: It's going to cost them three quarters of a million

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Speaker 4: dollars for a place that we just spent twenty seven

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01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 4: minutes talking about. Do they have money? Right? All right?

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Speaker 2: Man, awesome stuff. As always, I'm sure we'll be talking

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Speaker 2: next week. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir EV

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Speaker 2: Again with Jad Brendel Bearcat Journal dot com.

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Speaker 2: WLW Nicolodolo on the mound for Cincinnati College Hoops. Miami

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Speaker 2: lost today for the first time since last year's MAC

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Speaker 2: Tournament championship game, falling to UMass blew an eleven point

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Speaker 2: lead with eight to go, eighty seven to eighty three

1155
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: the final score. Kentucky won today in the SEC Tournament,

1156
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: advanced to play Florida tomorrow. Tennessee went on I believe

1157
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Speaker 2: a twenty four to zering run and the volunteers lead

1158
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: Auburn by six one twenty three to go. I think

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Speaker 2: Miami is in Auburn losing would be helpful. Ohio State

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Speaker 2: b and Iowa today in the Big Ten Tournament seventy

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: two to sixty nine. Buckeyes will play Michigan tomorrow. Xavier

1162
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: said to take on Yukon tonight at Madison Square Garden

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Speaker 2: in the Biggiest Tournament, and FC Cincinnati taking on Tigris

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Speaker 3: You cram a.

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Speaker 2: Lot into two hours, which we're having to do today.

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's show will be even shorter.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

1182
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Speaker 2: Tennessee just polished off Auburn seventy two to sixty two.

1183
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: Tigers were in control of that game and then they weren't.

1184
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: That is that is good news for the Miami RedHawks,

1185
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: who unfortunately lost today their first loss of the season,

1186
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: suffered at the hands of UMass in Cleveland Mac Tournament

1187
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: eighty seven to eighty three. The prevailing sentiment is that

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Speaker 2: the RedHawks are still going to be But I wanted

1189
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: to bring on the Tri States resident bracketologist. He's no

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Speaker 2: longer just the official bracketologist of this show nkybracketology dot

1191
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: com our guy Hunter Sansom and kind enough to join us.

1192
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: The RedHawks are still in right.

1193
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 7: The RedHawks are still in the tournament as of right now.

1194
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: Yes, are they playing in Dayton.

1195
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 7: I want to see everything update and kind of everything

1196
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 7: happened today before I say definitely yes or no. But

1197
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 7: as of right now, I have them above Dayton, but

1198
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 7: they're my first team not in Dayton at this time.

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Speaker 3: How much does Auburn losing help it?

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Speaker 7: Very much so helps Just watch them lose. Gave up

1201
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 7: like a twenty nhing run here at the end of

1202
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 7: the game to fall apart against Tennessee. Auburn is below

1203
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 7: Miami at this point.

1204
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: Who still is playing that RedHawks fans should be paying

1205
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: attention to.

1206
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 7: So anybody on the eight nine ten lines are teams

1207
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 7: that you all should be paying attention to. For Miami, apologies,

1208
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 7: my computer restarted, but VCU comes up tomorrow. I think

1209
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 7: Missouri's out. Yeah, I mean, other than that, realistically, a

1210
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 7: lot of these bubble teams are done. You can look

1211
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 7: at the Mountain West teams, your New Mexico, your San

1212
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 7: Diego States, But other than that, there's not much left

1213
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 7: out there on the bubble. Seaton Hall is still playing

1214
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 7: in the Big East, but they have to win the

1215
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 7: conference to get in, so they wouldn't necessarily affect Miami

1216
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 7: a ton, but you definitely want Ukon Saint John's Villanova

1217
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Speaker 7: to win that conference.

1218
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: Wednesday and well, I should say Tuesday and Wednesday were

1219
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: filled with bubble teams not winning.

1220
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: How much?

1221
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: How much do things get changed if even for Miami specifically,

1222
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: if even a handful of those teams win games.

1223
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 7: We're probably having a completely different conversation about them at

1224
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 7: least being in Dayton and being kind of locked into

1225
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 7: that Dayton or worse. But I mean, with all of

1226
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 7: this carnage that we've had along the bubble. You can't

1227
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 7: tell me a team one game above five hundred should

1228
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 7: be in over a team that went thirty one and

1229
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Speaker 7: one at this point.

1230
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Speaker 2: It was a four point game today on a neutral court.

1231
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: If today's loss had been more lobsided, would that have

1232
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 2: factored into their candidacy?

1233
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 7: I think so to an extent. However, with Miami, it's

1234
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 7: never about the predictive metrics, which is really where that

1235
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 7: the margin plays in. I think for Miami it's all

1236
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 7: about just how strong that resume is, how strong the

1237
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 7: record is. And I mean this six Q four loss,

1238
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 7: it might jump up to Q three, but I don't

1239
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 7: think margin necessarily will be a big issue. That could

1240
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 7: have been worse for sure.

1241
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: All Right, So, as of right now, we have the

1242
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: RedHawks in the Dance and not playing in Dayton. So

1243
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Speaker 2: if they're not playing in Dayton and they fall because

1244
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: a team or two wins, it's it's hard for me

1245
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: to believe. And you know a lot more about this

1246
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: process than I do, that they go from team number

1247
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: sixty four to team number sixty nine. Is that a

1248
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: okay way of looking at it?

1249
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 7: I want to say yes, right now, I'm going to

1250
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 7: have them sixty four ish is about right. Sixty three

1251
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 7: sixty four, but I think they're in, but I have

1252
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 7: trouble necessarily seeing them fall that far. It's definitely possible

1253
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 7: at this point. But the committee, I mean again, we've

1254
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 7: never had a team with this mini wins not make

1255
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 7: the tournament. This is not the season to start picking

1256
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 7: that kind of team to leave out.

1257
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: I feel like we hear the term weak bubble every year,

1258
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: but this year feels historically weak.

1259
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:24,879
Speaker 3: Would you agree?

1260
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 7: I agree? And the data back set up when you

1261
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 7: start looking at cross comparing, and I won't get super

1262
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,440
Speaker 7: into the weeds, but when you cross compare like efficiencies

1263
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 7: and these types of things, the top thirty teams are

1264
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 7: just over heels better than the rest of the country,

1265
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 7: and it's really affected just how good the bubble is.

1266
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 7: It's the weakest bubble I've ever seen.

1267
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: Do the net ratings matter less this year than previous years?

1268
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 7: Great question and something I get all the time on

1269
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 7: social media. The net ranking does not actually matter other

1270
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 7: than getting you split into your quadrant rankings. Your resume

1271
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 7: and your predictive metrics are what matter. There are six

1272
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 7: of them. I will have a video out this evening

1273
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 7: explaining that breakdown on bracket in Ky on Twitter, and

1274
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 7: it'll be up on my website. I would strongly suggest

1275
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 7: everybody watched that. But they matter. The net does not

1276
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 7: necessarily matter a ton.

1277
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard the term wins above bubble

1278
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: this year more than any other year.

1279
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: What is wins above bubble?

1280
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 7: Win's about bubble is actually a great new metric. It's

1281
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 7: on the newer side, invented I think in twenty fifteen,

1282
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 7: and it's basically, if you're a positive wins above bubble,

1283
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 7: then that means you are two or three or whatever

1284
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 7: the number is, wins above what they would expect a

1285
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 7: traditional Bubble team in this year's tournament to be. So

1286
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 7: for Miami, they were roughly two wins above bubble this morning.

1287
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 7: That means that they had won two more games than

1288
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 7: you would expect an average Bubble team to win. Now,

1289
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 7: of course they lost. I think this is going to

1290
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 7: hurt them about half a game two point seven to

1291
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 7: five games, so it will knock them down a little bit,

1292
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 7: but they still stay above what a typical Bubble team

1293
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 7: would do.

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Speaker 2: Given the fact that nobody else seemed to want to

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: grab a bid yesterday and on Tuesday, torture me. Had

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati held on to beat UCF, would they be in

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 7: In the field, maybe not, but they would have at

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 7: least had a shot to jump up. With how everything

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01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 7: played out, without having seen what they're went above bubble

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 7: or strength, the record would have moved to It's really

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Speaker 7: hard for me to give you yes or a no,

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Speaker 7: but I want to say they might have been.

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: What can Kentucky do with their seed if they win

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01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: tomorrow and then keep winning after beating Florida.

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01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 7: I think it's sixth seed is Kentucky's ceiling. We've seen

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 7: the committee not necessarily always value the conference tournaments, especially

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 7: in the SEC, with A and M a couple of

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Speaker 7: years back. So I think they might jump up another

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Speaker 7: seed liner so, but I don't see them jump out

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 7: much more than that.

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Speaker 2: Uh Ohio State I think deserves a lot of credit

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 2: because they've done what others haven't. Right, they've I don't

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01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: know that they needed to win today. You can correct

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: me on that, but with bids up for grabs, they've

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Speaker 2: won four consecutive games. What can the buck guys do

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01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: for their seed by beating Michigan tomorrow?

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Speaker 7: If they beat Michigan, eight seed that's not out of

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 7: the question. I currently have them on the nine line.

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Speaker 7: You could make an argument for the eight already, and

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Speaker 7: you're absolutely right. They did not have to win today,

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Speaker 7: but this definitely helps slip by them their lowest. I

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01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 7: think they'll be now as an eight, but they feel

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 7: like they're gonna end up playing in that eight to

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01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 7: nine game, which means you're gonna be looking at the

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Speaker 7: number one seed.

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Speaker 2: Indiana is not Indiana is not making the tournament correct correct?

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Speaker 3: What's the best case for Louisville.

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Speaker 7: Best case I think for Louisville, especially after today, sixth

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 7: seed feels about right for them. I do think Kentucky

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01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 7: could knock them down to the seven line, though.

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Speaker 2: Is the current landscape the strongest argument against tournament expansion?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I don't know how you can look at teams

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 7: like California, Indiana, Auburn, I mean, Cincinnati. You could make

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01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 7: an argument played better at the end of the year,

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01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 7: but you can't necessarily make an argument that these teams

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01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 7: deserve to be in the field right now. Expanding it,

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01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 7: those teams would all have been in.

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01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: How do I get one of your polo shirts?

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 7: I will send a dam after this?

1341
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 3: Where can others buy one of your polo shirts.

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 7: So right now the link is floating around. I will

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01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 7: tweet it out after we get done here. Had some

1344
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 7: requests for merch. So there's a polo, there's a T shirt,

1345
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 7: there's a hoodie, and there's a wineglass onto it. So

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 7: that is linked right now. You use the code this

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01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 7: is March. You get ten percent off your order. I

1348
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 7: launched it last night. I appreciate everybody's support and everybody's

1349
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 7: been great with it. So I'll tweet that link out.

1350
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 7: I'll tag your most so you have it as well,

1351
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 7: and we'll go from.

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01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: There at bracket nkhy on Twitter nkybracketology dot com.

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01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: Enjoy, enjoy the weekend. Man.

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 2: We'll probably bother you early next week just to see

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01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,440
Speaker 2: how you did versus the actual selection commedy.

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Speaker 3: Man, thanks so much. Sounds great. Thanks man, that's our guy.

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Speaker 3: Hunter sandsum Terrean shows over. Yes another day, no cuts.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll pull back the curtain. Tarn produces this

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: show and does an awesome job. And we talk about

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01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: like here's some audio I want to use, and he

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01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: goes back and he cuts up all this audio. And

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Speaker 2: I had him cut up a bunch of audio yesterday

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Speaker 2: and we didn't use it, And then today caught up

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Speaker 2: a bunch of audio and we didn't use it.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about Jonathan Allen, really quick, solid defensive tackle.

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 3: Willians don't got rid of the due the money.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a second second year guy, Jaylen Redman,

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Speaker 6: who pretty much put up the same numbers.

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Speaker 3: It's a little cheaper, all right. But he thought he

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Speaker 3: played a lot last year, wasn't he?

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Speaker 5: It was?

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, yeah, okay, he'll be great alongside bj Hill. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: The linebackers, you guys are cutting the week hed use Uh,

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: you can probably get Ivan Page Junior if you want.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: He plays linebacker. Literally, anybody who plays linebacker I will take.

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Speaker 2: I don't care who they are. I don't care if

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: you play linebacker in the CFL. I don't care if

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01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: you play linebacker in the USFL or the Arena League.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you played linebacker and oak Hill's

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: High school, can you play linebacker?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: Have you played linebacker on like a mad video game

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: before ten yard fight? Yes? Have you got there and

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 3: played linebacker? I could wouldn't go well for the Bengals,

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: But wouldn't go well for me.

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: But anybody, if you've ever played linebacker, call Duketovin might

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01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: have a job for you. Maybe Philanthro The phone all

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Speaker 2: right on the air tomorrow roughly.

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Speaker 3: Four thirty because of UK hoops. Have a great night.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Tarran for producing and doing a bunch of

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01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: work that we didn't take advantage of.

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Speaker 3: Have a great night.

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