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Speaker 1: Don't just sit at home and watch the game.

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Speaker 2: You can come catch the purple and action with us.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, nine to do And I'm actually I'm glad

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Speaker 4: you brought that up.

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Speaker 2: Brett Gray's Food Hall.

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Speaker 4: They've been tremendous hosts to these watch parties guards. They's

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Speaker 4: done several of them. I've done a few as well.

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Speaker 4: And it's right on the backside. It's behind it's behind

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Speaker 4: Target Field in I guess that's the North Loop Era area.

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Speaker 4: But but Gray's Food Hall is an awesome spot to

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Speaker 4: watch the game. I will indeed be there on Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: hang out, we give away free stuff, and then I

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Speaker 4: come back, hopefully after a Vikings victory race to the

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Speaker 4: studio to do fan lines. So if you are looking

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Speaker 4: for a place to watch the game the road games,

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Speaker 4: you can go to any game at Gray's Food Hall.

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Speaker 4: But we do watch parties during the away games. Kegs

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Speaker 4: and Eggs was fun during the Cleveland one border battle

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Speaker 4: with the Packers at Lambeau. The game was absolutely awful,

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Speaker 4: but the environment and the vibe at Grays was always good.

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Speaker 4: Grays is in you, Grays on the multiple food options

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Speaker 4: they have and of course the great drinks as part

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Speaker 4: of that equation. So I will be a Gray's Food

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Speaker 4: Hall on Sunday night before doing fan line, and hopefully

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Speaker 4: I'm watching JJ McCarthy continue to take his steps, watching

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Speaker 4: this defense and what Brian Flores has put together over

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five and I'm watching. I'm just watching a

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Speaker 4: team that continues to find their way, continues to play

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Speaker 4: hard each and every week despite some of the trials

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Speaker 4: and tribulations of a twenty twenty five year. Come hang

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Speaker 4: out of Gray's Food Haul and watch it all unfold.

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Speaker 4: And with that said, welcome to the head coach now

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Speaker 4: in studio here for x's and o's.

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Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, joins us

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Speaker 5: as he has wont to do each and every Tuesday

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Speaker 5: for x'es and o's. Once again multiple cameras here. We

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Speaker 5: were at Toys for Tots last week. How about the kids?

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Speaker 5: The Toys for tots last week. Wasn't that cold?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome. What a cool what a cool event.

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Speaker 6: I gotta be honest, though, it was kind of a

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Speaker 6: nice and to be in here kind of solo and yeah,

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Speaker 6: felt like you had an early radio career where you

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Speaker 6: were what do you mean doing all jobs at once

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Speaker 6: and it just was quiet and what.

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Speaker 2: Do you mean common here?

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Speaker 5: And I found being at Shields philanthropically speaking, raising money

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Speaker 5: for others. I was able to streamline, streamline like where

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Speaker 5: my heart's coming from and like the heart of the

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Speaker 5: station and the team and everything.

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Speaker 2: It was phenomenal. I thought it was great. It's great

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Speaker 2: to have you guys back.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see you again too. Now we got uh,

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Speaker 5: we got that extra page camera there. Yeah, you didn't

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Speaker 5: have Paige Acer didn't have to deal with it last

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Speaker 5: last week. But we want to welcome those watching on

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Speaker 5: the new camera and this is x's and O's on

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Speaker 5: the k f A n aston ever expanding Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 5: Audio Network and with Kevin O'Connell, we're going to begin here.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was cool that you gave Jonathan Hargrave

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Speaker 5: a make that Javon Hargrave a game ball after the

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Speaker 5: commander's shut out.

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Speaker 2: Uh big people making athletic plays. I mean like that.

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Speaker 5: And and with the force fumble and the fumble recovery

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Speaker 5: and it's by the sideline record ain't great, uh big

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Speaker 5: you know, big people, everybody continuing to give everything. I

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Speaker 5: just thought that was a really cool moment when you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Force and turnovers has been something we've talked a lot about.

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Speaker 6: And uh it coincided with us playing with the lead,

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Speaker 6: which obviously helps our defense be able to have maybe

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Speaker 2: But I thought that was a big part of the game.

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Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what, from where you probably had

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you just see him flying over

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Speaker 6: and he comes up with the football. So I had

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Speaker 6: you know that night, and well what to play and

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Speaker 6: he's really you know, he probably hasn't gotten the type

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Speaker 6: of recognition you know that he probably deserves, especially when

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Speaker 6: the consistency, what he's done, and giving us some really

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Speaker 5: You and I were both about equidistance from the play.

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Speaker 5: It took me about five seconds to figure out what happened.

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Speaker 5: Big difference is I had binoculars and you did. That's right,

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: So you know it's it's with Hard Grain and Jonathan Allen.

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Speaker 5: It's for people like me. Okay, I can watch the film,

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Speaker 5: I can watch the All twenty two. I probably have

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Speaker 5: choose to ask. But it's I've been a Javon Hargrave

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Speaker 5: fan all of his career, Yeah, from his first year

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Speaker 5: apparent that it's abundantly apparent that the way defense is

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Speaker 6: And I think what every year Flow and his guys

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Speaker 6: uh they've convinced these guys, hey, this system, it requires

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Speaker 6: it was a little bit more of a uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: That's been pretty impactful. Right.

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Speaker 6: It requires some you know, movement inside to make sure

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Speaker 6: he's just gonna turn get turned loose and play the

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Speaker 6: problems for uh, the offensive line trying to target the front,

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Speaker 6: trying to block the front. Yeah, and then knowing that

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Speaker 2: And that's what he's done.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you mentioned that corner blitz portion of

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Speaker 5: the equation and I was gonna save this for near

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Speaker 5: the end. But jay Ward out of ls LSU. I mean, like,

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Speaker 5: did did did you guys try him at corner a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it doesn't matter the root.

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Speaker 5: He's playing corner for you now and a special teams guy,

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Speaker 5: and I have a nugget for you because you guys

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Speaker 5: blitz jay Ward. I mean i'd say sometimes right, a

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Speaker 5: you know, on my game calling depth chart, I got

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Speaker 5: jay Ward, I got no interceptions, found his last interception

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Speaker 5: So I approached him after we landed in Appleton. When's

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Speaker 5: when Jay Ward gets a sack, that's going to be

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Speaker 2: How cool is that? Yeah, it's gonna be a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I really love Jay Ward. I love I mean one of.

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Speaker 6: The reasons why, you know, when I credit Deronte and

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Speaker 6: potentially give us a chance to snatch some momentum in

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Speaker 2: Whether it is you know, pairing you know, Jay and.

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Speaker 6: A safety maybe in.

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Speaker 2: A true overload pressure float.

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Speaker 6: They can come up with any idea, but what they

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Speaker 6: level of physicality tackling in.

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Speaker 2: The open field.

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Speaker 6: He had a great play on a kind of a

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Speaker 6: screen out to Deebo Samuel I believe at one point

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Speaker 6: kind of came in and made the play. But Jay's

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Speaker 6: been a guy that you know, has been just ascending,

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Speaker 6: getting better and better. The fact of the matter is

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Speaker 6: we've had some really good safeties last year obviously with

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Speaker 6: don't know where you put him on your game calling depth.

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Speaker 2: Charty behind Fabian.

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Speaker 6: It's more about limiting your call sheet down, which is

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Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell x's and o's with JJ McCarthy clearly taking

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Speaker 2: But that's what it was. It was a positive step.

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Speaker 5: And you know, reading and or hearing a lot of

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Speaker 2: Him and I we we had a lot of dialogue.

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Speaker 6: I know what you I know where you were going previously,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't feel like we've got to move heaven and

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Speaker 2: But I think the other thing for JJ is too.

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Speaker 2: But there's another layer to it with JJ.

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Speaker 6: he might try to do that. Stop, Yeah, just quiet

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Speaker 2: Hamm on the.

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Speaker 6: to seeing, just every play there's a positive outcome and

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Speaker 6: Whether it's a two yard game or a fifty yard game,

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Speaker 2: That was outstanding.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for opening up like that on next' his

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Speaker 2: I liked you.

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Speaker 5: Also because after the Lions game, okay, you win, and

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Speaker 5: I kind of look at it through that prism. So

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Speaker 6: I think the most, if you've learned any thing about me,

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Speaker 2: I do believe, well, the.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just think that you know what, you better

440
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Speaker 6: have confidence, and you better have a comfort in who

441
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 6: you are to be in certain roles. And I think

442
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 6: being the starting quarterback of an NFL team is one

443
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 6: of those things. All I've asked JJ to do is

444
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 6: just be authentically himself. That's really all we've ever asked

445
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 6: players playing that position. Whether you go back to Kirk

446
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 6: Cousins in twenty twenty two and people said, man, you

447
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 6: know who is this guy? It was just trying to

448
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 6: allow these guys to be ultra comfortable in front of

449
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 6: their teammates in the huddle, you know, on the grass,

450
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 6: in the meeting room, whatever you want to say. Part

451
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 6: of helping guys reach their truest potential is helping them

452
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 6: be themselves every single day. And I think at times

453
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 6: guys try to, you know, and maybe it is the moment,

454
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 6: and if it's author in the moment, fire away, let's

455
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 6: have at it. But we don't need to exhaust any energy.

456
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 6: Our jobs are hard enough already trying to be somebody

457
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 6: else or trying to play to some sort of persona,

458
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 6: whatever it may be.

459
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Speaker 2: Let's just go back to work.

460
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Speaker 4: Man.

461
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 6: Let's just go back to work and try to get

462
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 6: better every single day. And when we do have moments

463
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Speaker 6: like Sunday and we could take a step back like

464
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Speaker 6: JJ and I were able to do.

465
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Speaker 2: And I told him I was proud of them.

466
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Speaker 6: I was just proud of the way you from the

467
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Speaker 6: moment you showed up on Wednesday, all the way through

468
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 6: flipping you that game ball afterwards. You know, it just

469
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 6: felt like the guy that that he can be for us,

470
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Speaker 6: and I felt like it's repeatable. More importantly, it felt

471
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Speaker 6: like it's something that regardless of simplification of scheme and

472
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Speaker 6: changing our stripes as an organization and all the things

473
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Speaker 6: that it comes down to some very simple principles of

474
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 6: the Minnesota Vikings and not just JJ. We had a

475
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 6: great day from our offensive line as well. We had

476
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Speaker 6: a great day with the that was the most snaps

477
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Speaker 6: at that group of five that we selected to be

478
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Speaker 6: our offensive line, either first round pick in the draft,

479
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Speaker 6: with Donovan who's toughed out through an ankle injury to

480
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 6: not be denied playing in the game, to Christian Darrisaw

481
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 6: playing you know, the better part of that game until

482
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 6: we started taking some starters out.

483
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: Brian O'Neil was fantastic again.

484
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 6: Ryan Kelly played by far, you know what, I thought,

485
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 6: his best game since he's been in Minnesota Viking. And

486
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 6: then wolf Ryes just continues to be an ultra consistent

487
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 6: guy who's getting better and better and working through you know,

488
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 6: his comfort level in our offense as well.

489
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Speaker 2: But we had that group for the whole day of

490
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Speaker 2: the whole.

491
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Speaker 6: Day, and if you didn't notice, Josh Oliver was blocking

492
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 6: anybody and everybody on Sunday and the pancake count got

493
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Speaker 6: up into the high single digits at one point impressive

494
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Speaker 6: day from.

495
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Speaker 2: A lot of guys, but our quarterback had a lot

496
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Speaker 2: to do with it.

497
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Speaker 5: At last, lay on the quarterback and the nineteen ninety

498
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Speaker 5: eight and twelve for twelve minutes masterful. I mean, just

499
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Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of them. Again, so I've ever

500
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Speaker 5: seen one of those. Was JJ's road addison onate right

501
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 5: in front of you, one of his best of the season.

502
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Speaker 5: And the reason I bring it up like that, and

503
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Speaker 5: I know you talked about it in your press conference yesterday,

504
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Speaker 5: I just want to amplify it a little bit. Good

505
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 5: pocket stepped up, went right hash to left sideline, which

506
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: is a long throw, and that just seemed to personify

507
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: a quiet mind.

508
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 6: Well, what it was was it was a great example

509
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 6: of regardless of what the defense does, set your feet

510
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 6: with great fundamentals and technique that he is wildly capable

511
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 6: of consistently doing with repeatable, efficient mechanics. But it was about, hey,

512
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 6: Justin's the primary on the play and he had his

513
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Speaker 6: eyes in the right spot. The pocket was good at

514
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Speaker 6: great everything that JJ can control. But then the decision

515
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 6: making of not needing three hitches to decide Justin wasn't open.

516
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 6: It was a decisive decision which allowed his body position

517
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Speaker 6: and the ability to drive that football.

518
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Speaker 2: Like you said, I an easy throw the pockets and

519
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: he stepped. It was just beautiful. It felt like it's

520
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: supposed to feel.

521
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Speaker 6: And I thought that was a great example of him

522
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 6: playing at a very high clip when we needed some

523
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Speaker 6: third down conversions pa to not only have that drive

524
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 6: but ether, you know, starting fast early on in the game.

525
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 6: We didn't have one on that first drive. But it's

526
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Speaker 6: not like we just ran the ball every snap either.

527
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Speaker 6: He made some big throws and even the first one

528
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Speaker 6: of the day to Ben Simms. You say, ho home,

529
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Speaker 6: it's an eight yard game. But that's an example of

530
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Speaker 6: him versus a pretty unique coverage. Look, they're dropping out

531
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Speaker 6: a D lineman, they're playing inverted too deep. Just throw completions, man,

532
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 6: good things are gonna happen, all right.

533
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Speaker 5: Wow, A couple of quickis to close here for the

534
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Speaker 5: head coach, Donovan Jackson plays her cares deeply.

535
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Speaker 2: You guys hit on a good one with him. We

536
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Speaker 2: talked about that.

537
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, holy cow, three tds for your tight ends.

538
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Speaker 5: Was that a product of just quickly loving the matchups

539
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: into the game or a result of how things developed

540
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Speaker 5: during the blowout.

541
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Speaker 2: No more.

542
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Speaker 6: It was more of game planning for for the we

543
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 6: we really wanted to you know, there was a there

544
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 6: was a method to try to pair some of those groupings.

545
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 6: We were doing some things out of those groupings, besides

546
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 6: just getting big to run the ball, which we were

547
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 6: able to do in the game, add in extra gaps

548
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 6: and using some physicality with knowing we were going to

549
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 6: have that group, that offensive line group out there as well.

550
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Speaker 6: But then what it allowed us to do is we

551
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 6: also threw the ball out of those groupings and in

552
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 6: some cases spreading out the formations and trying to make

553
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 6: guys uncomfortable in different spots throughout that defense. All well,

554
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 6: just trying to give you know, jj answers to You

555
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 6: can't ask him to throw completions and be willing to

556
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Speaker 6: check the ball down and then not have those options

557
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 6: available to him. And I think when you go back

558
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 6: and watch through his tape throughout the season, you know

559
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 6: when he's decisive, even when he is checking the ball down,

560
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Speaker 6: good things normally happen, not only on that play but

561
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Speaker 6: the plays afterwards. He also stole some first downs for

562
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Speaker 6: us with his legs. I thought that backed up third

563
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Speaker 6: down was a critical critical play to kind of get

564
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Speaker 6: it kickstarted there from the end zone. Yeah, from when

565
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Speaker 6: he when he got out right there, and there's a

566
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Speaker 6: learning up there. I mean, there's a you know, protection

567
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: call on a third down. If he makes that, he

568
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 6: probably throws another completion. We don't, and he's able to

569
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Speaker 6: still make it right by using that athleticism to get

570
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Speaker 6: out and steal us a new set of downs.

571
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Speaker 5: All right, dude, there's one at the end off your

572
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Speaker 5: press conference yesterday. I have I have to get in

573
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Speaker 5: so before that, here's the penultimate What what leads you

574
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Speaker 5: to taking the ball when winning the toss?

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to, I think first and foremost.

576
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Speaker 6: You know, we're we're learning a little bit more about

577
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Speaker 6: with the fact that so many more kickoff returns are

578
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 6: being put in play, you know, the days of the

579
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Speaker 6: starting field position.

580
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Speaker 2: Especially. I have a lot of confidence in Miles Price

581
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Speaker 2: out there.

582
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Speaker 6: I wasn't thinking about so if he gets if he

583
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Speaker 6: gets that ball past the thirty yard line and in

584
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Speaker 6: the case to start the game the other day was

585
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Speaker 6: the thirty nine yard great return, great execution by our

586
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Speaker 6: guys by Matt Daniels coaching that up and we have

587
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Speaker 6: the ball at the thirty nine yard line, you get

588
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 6: one first down, pa you're at midfield, and then the

589
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 6: way Ryan writes punted the ball, even if you only

590
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 6: get one, we're allowing our defense to potentially start fast.

591
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 6: But the ultimate decision for me on Sunday is, you know,

592
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 6: awareness is key as a head coach, and I was

593
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 6: very aware that we had not played well at home,

594
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 6: at least from a results standpoint, since the Cincinnati game.

595
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Speaker 2: And I wanted to take the ball. I wanted to

596
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: go score.

597
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Speaker 6: I wanted to give Vikings fans a chance to, you know,

598
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 6: not say here we go again, but say, okay, maybe

599
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 6: today is going to be different. And then, like I

600
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 6: totally expected, they were fantastic. The defense takes the field,

601
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 6: they get that fourth down stop, and then we go

602
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 6: ninety eight for a touchdown. But the number one goal

603
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 6: of the week was to start fast the time I

604
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 6: met with the team on Wednesday and said, hey, here,

605
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 6: we want to be we want to win the turnover battle.

606
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm tired of talking about it.

607
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 6: Let's win the turnover battle, and let's start fast in

608
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 6: the process of doing so. And if that means we

609
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Speaker 6: end up getting the lead defense, I think you're gonna

610
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 6: get some opportunities to take the ball away. The number

611
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 6: one priority on offense is to protect the football because

612
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 6: we know what those numbers look like.

613
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: When we do some of those things.

614
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 6: Within the game, they give us very very high likelihoods

615
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Speaker 6: of winning.

616
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Speaker 5: Okay, Lastly, because I didn't really understand what you were

617
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Speaker 5: saying during your press conference yesterday, a lot of people don't, well, well,

618
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Speaker 5: I mean if it's yeah, but I would ask you

619
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Speaker 5: to the side if I didn't understand. This just happens

620
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: to be the side and everybody gets to see and

621
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Speaker 5: hear because we got Sunday night football coming up, which

622
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Speaker 5: means longer TV breaks. I mean, shoot, you can build

623
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Speaker 5: a village in that huddle before they scatter and come

624
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: back from the break. And that's what I mean is

625
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: you went down the road of I can't remember who

626
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: asked you about, like Chambliss is running out, this guy's

627
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 5: running out and coming back, and you were talking about

628
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: like a TV time out game with huddles and stuff

629
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Speaker 5: like that, Like what is that?

630
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Speaker 6: The question was Washington Cliff Kingsbury. Since he's been in

631
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 6: the NFL, they don't huddle. So if Vikings fans who

632
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 6: were at the game or you were watching at home.

633
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 6: What we call a muddle huddle a messy they just

634
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 6: basically stand at the line of scrimmage. They still sub

635
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: as if they're just going to huddle up, call a

636
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 6: play and then go. But what they try to do

637
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: is it makes it hard with the NFL rules of substitutions.

638
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: You'll see it in college sometimes a lot more.

639
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: So whether you go base, nickel or die.

640
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 6: But you're allowed to get a chance to match whatever

641
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 6: they put in the game. So if they wanted to

642
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 6: go from thirteen personnel, which is one back, three tight

643
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 6: ends and one receiver, to eleven personnel and bring in

644
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 6: two receivers for two of those tight ends, the officials

645
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 6: have to give Flow in the group a chance to.

646
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: Then match that like a hockey jack. And it happened

647
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: to us early in the year.

648
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 6: If you remember when they held the snap because there

649
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 6: was a late sub by us or around there was,

650
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 6: I believe it was at a home game in the year,

651
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 6: but they held that and we ended up taking a

652
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 6: delay on the play because the play clock means nothing

653
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: to the AOS officials. But what Flow in the group

654
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 6: decided to do was, you know, as he kind of

655
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 6: cycles through what personnel grouping he wanted to have on

656
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 6: let's make sure we're starting the process of substitutions even

657
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Speaker 6: if it ends up changing, and it kind of had

658
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Speaker 6: a little bit of a, you know, a hockey line

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Speaker 6: change feel to it much of the day.

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Speaker 2: But every time that happens, it's prettigue.

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Speaker 6: It's also causing the counter effect for Cliff and those

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Speaker 6: guys of what is in the game.

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Speaker 2: We don't even know what's in the game.

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Speaker 6: The play clock's going to or the coach, the quarterback

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Speaker 6: is gonna shut off at fifteen seconds, and now they've

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Speaker 6: got to if we were trying to basically take something

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Speaker 6: that's an advantage for them and turn it into an

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Speaker 6: advantage for us.

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Speaker 2: Flow and I talked a lot about it.

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Speaker 6: But my beef with the TV timeouts that I go

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Speaker 6: to the league meetings and bring up with my good

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Speaker 6: buddy Sean McVay and coach Tomlin on the Competition committee

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Speaker 6: every year is this, when we're in a TV timeout,

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Speaker 6: we're not allowed to have fourteen guys out in the huddle.

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Speaker 6: The defense can have as many players as they want

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Speaker 6: in the huddle. So I'm trying to I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: figure out what's going to be on the field. Defensively,

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Speaker 6: you can't run a lot of plays with your eleven

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Speaker 6: group against base defense. There's just not a lot unless

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Speaker 6: you want Jalen Naylor blocking defensive ends and linebackers all day.

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Speaker 2: There's just not a lot of things you can do.

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Speaker 6: So you're trying to You're trying to weave through what's

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Speaker 6: on the field for them, and there's some people upstairs

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Speaker 6: trying to tell me. I'm trying to see with my

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Speaker 6: own eyes. But then what happens is we come back

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Speaker 6: from a commercial or two and we pop in that

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Speaker 6: play clock ready for play twenty five seconds bam, And

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Speaker 6: then they scatter and what's in the game, what's not

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Speaker 6: There's about eighteen seconds on the play clock. Now you've

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Speaker 6: got to get a play called within three seconds. So

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Speaker 6: I just they're very detailed about what we do in

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Speaker 6: the offensive huddle. You can't have twelve in the huddle ever,

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Speaker 6: if you're subbing, you really shouldn't have, you know, twelve

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Speaker 6: guys in between the numbers. But defensively, during those TV timeounts,

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Speaker 6: they can have the whole football team standing.

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Speaker 2: The mascot coaches.

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Speaker 6: And they're all out there in the huddle right as

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Speaker 6: an offensive coach, not to ramble.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to explain.

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Speaker 6: There's some Union gamesmanship to the strategy, and it's strategic.

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Speaker 5: It's strategery with those running on to the numbers and

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Speaker 5: then running back.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm starting to get it out. You're awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: thank you appreciate it. Having O'Connell, head coach of the

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Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings that Texas and nose back after this. Now

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Speaker 5: let's hear from Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores about

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Speaker 5: these cowboys.

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Speaker 7: It's based up and we can sub so you know,

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Speaker 7: that's really kind of the rule. So you know, we

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Speaker 7: throw those guys in there, and.

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Speaker 4: You mean history the player who Eric Wilson at age

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Speaker 4: thirty one kind.

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Speaker 2: Of gets his opportunity.

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Speaker 5: He's taking such advantage of it because they're any historical

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Speaker 5: pressent for you and your money kind of like this,

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Speaker 5: you're liking, Uh.

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Speaker 7: No, you know, I mean I would say there's nobody

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Speaker 7: that really you know, jumps out. You know the guy

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Speaker 7: I think of is that, you know is Zach Bond,

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Speaker 7: you know, who kind of went from the being kind

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Speaker 7: of a an uh a rotational player to you know,

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Speaker 7: going to Philly last year and you know, taking on

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Speaker 7: a huge role and he but he's younger obviously, but

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Speaker 7: to kind of have that that type of you know,

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Speaker 7: rotational player jumped to you know, somebody who's you know,

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Speaker 7: week in and week out making plays. That would really

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Speaker 7: be the only name. But I you know, like I said,

729
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Speaker 7: he's a lot younger. I I've said this, you know,

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Speaker 7: in numerous production meetings, you know, I I wish I

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Speaker 7: had eat up you know, five years ago, you know,

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Speaker 7: or when he was twenty five. I mean, I think

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Speaker 7: he's you know, he's he's tough, he loves to play,

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Speaker 7: he loves to practice, he wants to get better. He's

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Speaker 7: trying to improve on a daily basis.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: I think, like you know, Mike Ravel's done a great

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Speaker 7: job with him kind of uh you know, bringing out

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Speaker 7: his his the things that he really does well and

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Speaker 7: us trying to put him in positions to to do

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Speaker 7: those things.

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Speaker 2: He's a really good blitzer.

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Speaker 7: He plays well in tandem with Cash and really with

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Speaker 7: you know other players, and he's been impactful.

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Speaker 2: He really has both on the field and often.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'm excited for him and his his uh,

747
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Speaker 7: his growth and his his his ability to just take

748
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Speaker 7: advantage of these opportunities. And we need him and we'll

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Speaker 7: we'll certainly need him this week against this this this

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Speaker 7: Dallas group.

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Speaker 5: What what is that that makes him specifically a good blitzer?

752
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Speaker 2: Is that just that he's a mismatch for running backs?

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Speaker 2: What do you see when he's blitzing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's I think it's uh, I don't

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Speaker 7: want to say a mismatch, but you know, he's a

756
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 7: he's a good blitzer, and he knows how to beat

757
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Speaker 7: beat backs, but he also knows how to manipulate the

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Speaker 7: protection from the back position to you know, run picks

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Speaker 7: games and allow himself or someone else to come you know,

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Speaker 7: potentially come free. Especially you know when if it's a

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Speaker 7: two on two situation, you know, you're blocking me, you know,

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Speaker 7: Ben's blocking somebody else and we run a pick stime,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So it's just a little

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Speaker 7: a little different there.

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Speaker 5: So Brian Flores, defensive ordinator for the Minnesota Vikings, talking

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Speaker 5: about Eric Wilson and the matchup coming up against the

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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys, something that we will be discussing during the

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Speaker 5: course of the week that is nine to noon, which

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Speaker 5: includes a Friday football feast of Buffalo Wild Wings Plumouth

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Speaker 5: this Friday. Our final segment is next a beat just

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Speaker 5: quickly because you're the current Wild officionado in this three

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Speaker 5: person covenant, and I didn't watch the Seattle game last night?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 5: It was last night's victory more a result of Wild

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Speaker 5: domination or the fact I didn't, you know, when I

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Speaker 5: was looking at game log yesterday, I had no idea

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Speaker 5: that Cracking had fallen off as badly as they have

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Speaker 5: of late, and the Wild had beaten them in Seattle

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Speaker 5: every time they've met, I think, except for the very

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Speaker 5: first game that they met when Seattle became a franchise.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, from my perspective, it it almost felt

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Speaker 3: like not going through the motions. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: little harsh, but just just playing the game and nothing

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Speaker 3: spectacular until the Zukerrello hit happened and that seemed to

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Speaker 3: wake everybody up. It's one of those games that you win,

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Speaker 3: but you come out feeling like an l because Boldie

788
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Speaker 3: had to leave the ice, Dlton had to leave the ice,

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Speaker 3: and Zucarello gets his you know, from just an absolutely

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: dirty hit. He gets his bell rung. So you come

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Speaker 3: out not a lot of bodies and you have to

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Speaker 3: kind of recoup going into the next game.

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Speaker 5: Yep, good for the while. The next game will be

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Speaker 5: Thursday against the Dallas Stars. Speaking of Dallas, a big

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Speaker 5: week for the Minnesota Core four against Dallas related teams.

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Speaker 5: Where you have the Stars Thursday night at Grand Grand

797
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Speaker 5: Casino Arena, Cowboys a Sunday night there on a Sunday

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Speaker 5: night football on KFAM. Bob Sterm is a radio star

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Speaker 5: in the Dallas market and he'll join the show tomorrow

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Speaker 5: at nine o'clock to chat about the Stars and also

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Speaker 5: about this Vikings Cowboys game. Florio joins tomorrow at nine

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Speaker 5: forty and John Hines, coach of the Minnesota Wild right

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Speaker 5: around eleven o'clock. Thank you very much for listening today

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Speaker 5: for Double Beat Guiding the Great Ship Loft Covenant and

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Speaker 5: Nordo the on site producer at the TCO Radio Studio.

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Speaker 5: I'm Paul. That's nine to noon at FM one hundred

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